UK Column News - 10th September 2025

Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the 10th of September, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host, Mike Robinson and joining me in the studio today, Brian Garish. Welcome to the programme by Brian. Thank you. And joining us via Live Link, our researcher and activist Sandy Adams, and journalist and peace campaigner Vanessa Bailey.

Later in the programme, Vanessa is going to be reporting on a huge contract with a certain Israeli defence contractor that we all know to train British military personnel. Sandy is going to have more on the funding behind the migrant operation here in the UK. And we'll be taking a further look at Unit 8200 and the Online Safety Act.

But we'll begin today, Brian, with security guarantees or at least the ramping up of the narrative around that topic. Yes, indeed. And the subject, of course, is the supposed Russian drone attack on Poland. I've just chosen the Guardian headline here, which at least is relatively measured. Poland shoots down drones over its territory amid a Russian attack on Ukraine.

And the reason I'm emphasising this headline is, of course, in most of the Western media, it's simply labeled as a Russian attack. But there are lots of questions to be asked. The other thing in that picture a lot was lots of F sixteens. F30 fives have also been involved, according to reports. But my point is that the F16 is being promoted again as the wonder weapon. It was the F16 airborne to shoot down drones. But Tusk made some statements. This is one of the key ones.

We're dealing with large scale provocation. We're ready to repel such provocations. The the situation is serious and no one doubts that we must prepare for various scenarios. Poland has successfully repelled the attack and there is no reason to panic. Well, did they successfully repel and was it an attack? These are some questions which we points we need to look at. So basically, Poland's military command said that it it said that there were more than 10 objects.

And this is interesting because we'll have a little bit of a discussion about how many drones there supposedly were. But Poland's military said more than 10 objects and those that could pose a threat were neutralised in the early hours of Wednesday. Some of the drones that enter our airspace were shot down. Searches and efforts to locate the potential crash sites of these objects are ongoing. So it's vague when you start to pull apart the reports.

What's actually being talked about is pretty vague. But if we bring the BBC up, because of course the BBC in general is ramping up the fear this is a major Russian attack on Poland. This is going to give the opportunity for NATO to respond. So here's the BBC headline in the box. Poland says that up to 4 of 19 Russian drones were shot down after entering the airspace. Now to date there's absolutely no factual reported evidence that these were Russian drones, but of course the BBC quick to

say absolutely they were. When we get into the more detailed reporting by the BBC, it gets into the numbers of drones and how many were brought down and how many were found. But there's there's really no analysis at all on what these drones were and what the evidence was to identify them as Russian. Now, of course, the other person coming into the mix was Zelensky. He wasn't happy with the idea of 19 and he suggested at least 24 Russian drones had entered Poland.

And of course, he was already ramping it up to say, this is one of the reasons why you need me and Ukraine to defend Western Europe against those nasty Russians. The BBC just reports this as if it's factual. But there was a little bullet point here. You might not see it at the bottom of the box. So let's bring this up on your screen. Now, when you read the article, you're not sure whether this is part of what Zelensky is saying. Well, this is the BBC speaking

to the reader. But the bullet point says, as a reminder, Polish Prime Minister Donald Trusk Tusk has said the Polish military recorded 19 drone incursions into the country's airspace overnight. Mike, I think this is the BBC attempting to grip the narrative.

But of course, what they're doing is also underlining the fact that not even the BBC can trust a word that comes out of the mouth of Zelensky, who they are normally promoting as an accurate spokesperson for what's happening with the war. Now, I've been paying attention for the whole 1200 days of the war to many people reporting and there's some really excellent social media analysis. I just decided to have a look at

a little bit of this. Now, one of the things that was being circulated in relation to this attack was the image on screen. Now, this is not a a war drone. This is a, if you like a drone to practice drone attacks. But this was photographed and there's some suggestions that this is one of the drones that appeared in Poland, but I have no idea whether that is correct or not.

But if we look at the comment, Poland yesterday, border closure today, drone raid tomorrow, a no fly zone question mark. And what they're getting at there is that is this effectively a false flag to allow NATO to extend the air cover into Western Ukraine. And I think there's there's a lot of reasons we should be very suspicious of the nation of the

NATO position. But if we continue the commentary from this particular source today, some unidentified flying objects, this is deliberately bringing some black humour into the commentary. But we know from the Polish reports themselves, they said one had not been identified. Today some UFOs enter Polish territory shot down by air defence, but no one shows the debris. And I think this is very key, Mike.

Nobody's showing debris because that would say without any doubt that the attack was Russian. And to date, nothing's come forward. But if we continue the comment commentary from social media, I have no doubt it is Duran wreckage. Why that would be Russian drone wreckage there. There are there is tons of it in Ukraine and a few 100 kilograms. So the Poles can wave it around at press conferences is no problem.

So what they're doing here is also pointing out that there's enough wreckage in Ukraine for that to be transferred into NATO to be presented as so-called evidence of a Russian attack. But if you analyse the situation, what would Russia gain out of such an attack? It would give NATO the excuse it needed to group up and possibly bring Ukraine into the fold. Why would Russia do it? It simply doesn't make sense.

Now, what we need to remember is of course, that huge numbers of Russian drones are being used in the attacked. This is some data back from July, but it's talking about nearly 6 1/2 thousand drones being launched in the period. And below the line is those that have been shot down. And Ukraine is always trying to make out that it's air defences are still working perfectly. And this is actually a Ukrainian

map of the air routes. This has come supposedly from their air defence systems showing the extent of the of this Russian, sorry, the Russian drone raid taking place on Ukraine as supposedly the attack in Poland was taking place. Now the coordination of this attack and some and previous attacks, Mike, is simply incredible from the Russian side. And the idea that 19 drones went into Poland by accident is simply not credible. So we need to know whether they were Russian or not.

And I'm also going to point out here that surprisingly, Defence HQ, this is the British Ministry of Defence on their Twitter channel, was busily talking about the war effort ramping up British industry. This goes on and on and on. What we're not seeing is anything about drones. And we're just highlighting a minute here that British government is very happy that they've apparently now now got 800,000 plus students involved in the defence industry.

So at the same time Russia's being criticised for bringing young people into the war effort. We are boasting that we are bringing 800,000 students and a lot of promotional women into the defence effort. But absolutely no commentary on Russian drones, which I think is very significant. So the key is we need that evidence that indeed these drones in Poland were Russian. And that they were shot down in Polish airspace.

And well, well, yes, of course it's very difficult to to say some, some of the wreckage has been found, five and one identified in in Lublin province in Poland and two, one in a more central location and one in a more northern location.

But let's see whether we see the images. Vanessa, let's welcome you to the programme and well the defence contractor that was very referring to at the at the beginning of the programme, who could that have been? Well none other than Albert Systems of course, the centre of all the controversy over the prescribing of Palestine Action as a terrorist group in the UK for actually sabotaging Albert Systems that are providing 85% globally of the drones to the

Israeli military. So this was back in February a report in Shepherd Defence Media final 2 contenders for key 2 billion British Army training contract selected and that reduced it back then down to two main contenders that were mentioned in the article for the Army Collective Training Service acronym is ACTS. Of the seven original bidders for the partnership, 3 had already withdrawn. The two successful consortia are Omnia Training led by Raytheon UK and a team led by Albert Systems UK.

And then much more recently towards the end of August, this was in the campaign against Armed violence. The director of the organization, Ian Overton, wrote that concern as the Ministry of Defence reportedly poised to hand 2 in in training deal to Albert Systems, Israel's largest arms firm. And let's have a look. I'll just summarize in the next slide basically what was said within the article. So the project is to deliver training for 60,000 British soldiers each year.

It will transform how the army prepares for operations. While in fact there's very little detail on what that preparation will include. Since 2023 they've been in Albert has been involved involved in Project Vulcan, a £57 million ten year program to train tank crews. It is wholly owned and controlled by Israel, albeit systems. This is very important because it's very much portrayed by the British government as being Auk

company. But the profits from UK arms production flow back to Israel and there is a major senior staff overlap. It is Auk subsidiary. It's a local contractor to the British regime and part of Israel's wider military industrial complex.

So it's very much smoke and mirrors when the British government tries to to basically hide the fact that that the government is not involved with an Israeli weapons manufacturing outfit that is complicit with the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and the occupied territories.

Even beyond this. It was actually private I but reported by Ian Overton that there are two senior members of British armed forces that have now joined the Advisory Board of Albert in the UK. The first being Sir Simon Bolem. You can freeze frame and read the details on him. And the second being the next slide please.

Lieutenant General Sir Mark Poffley, KCBOBE, Both of them very high level members of or former members of the Ministry of Defence now joining an Israeli arms company that is complicit in genocide against Palestinians. Now this has generated a motion from within Parliament from basically raising alarms about the Armed forces training

contract and Albert systems. And if we have a quick look at the text of that motion, it's been signed by I think upwards of 25 MPs, the majority being from Pled, Comrie and Labour, unsurprisingly. But what it actually says is that, as I said, Albert supplies 85% of drones to the Israeli military, conducting what is described by many international humanitarian law organisations, including the ICJ, as a

genocide. It will entrench Albert at the heart of UK defence or an Israeli company again at the heart of UK defence industry. And of course we've been covering that at UK Column. The involvement in Oracle in the storage of information for the ministry, defence and other sectors of British governance. And from a reputational, legal and moral perspective, this puts Britain in danger of being prosecuted, of course, for being complicit in genocide.

That is their main concern. At the same time we still have the unlawful keeping the Filton 24 members of Palestine Action who led the direct action campaign against Albert Systems in an attempt to to highlight the genocide and prevent the genocide. And they of course have spent a year. In fact, I think now it's more in prison without trial. The first trial of I think three members of Palestine Action will be taking place on the 17th of November at Woolwich Crown Court.

And we've also talked regularly about the conditions that these young people are being kept in, in remand. I mean effectively they are going through abuse and torture at the hands of the state. Now 1 interesting fact is that very recently this was in the Guardian, Israeli arms manufacturer closes the UK facility targeted by Palestine Action. Now this is perceived as a success at the hands of direct action by Palestine Action.

My suspicion is that it's going to re emerge somewhere else, potentially be renamed or or rebranded. So we need to keep an eye on that. But but absolutely extraordinary that the British government is pursuing collaboration with Albert Systems despite all of the controversy surrounding it, while effectively torturing and abusing their own citizens or actually protesting genocide in the UK. You got some thoughts?

Yes, indeed. I, I just wanted to say, Vanessa, that absolutely take the point of the, the links with the Israeli company and the, the genocide currently going on in, in Gaza. But not even aside from that, the fact that we have a foreign nation, namely Israel now burying itself directly into the heart of UK military training. This is a level which it means that Israel would be given access to every single real capability, particularly of the army. And this to me is utterly

incredible. What decision has been taken that Israel is trustworthy enough to even deal with training secrets within the UK military, aside from the secondary point, which is, you know, absolutely valid of this company being linked into the horrors going on in Gaza? I've talked about this dual nationality problem before, and I think that you are absolutely highlighting it here. Any comment? No, I totally agree with that. Yeah, OK. Well, look, thank you, Vanessa.

Sandy, let's welcome you to the programme then. And we've been talking over the last couple of weeks about maybe what's going on behind the scenes with respect to the incitement of feeling and emotion with people in the UK over the migrant issue. What have you got on this? Yes, sorry, Sandy, we I'm afraid we can't hear you. I think you're going to need to try to try to reconnect. We might need to move on and and come back to this.

Well, just just for we do, Mike, I think just to add a little bit more to this business of Israel, it's quite incredible that back in the days of Francis Maude, he was the minister who suddenly announced that we'd gone into this massive packed with Israel. MOUI think it was a memorandum of understanding at the time, which meant that Israeli intelligence services were absolutely going to be part part partnered with British Intel.

We were going to be bringing in GCHQ, we're going to be bringing in the universities. And there was absolutely no full debate in the House of Commons over the risks of this. And now we've moved forward to the fact that Israel is not only burying itself into the NHS, it's now at the heart of British

military. It's becoming difficult to tell whether we've got a government which is actually being run from Westminster for the benefit of the people in UK or we're simply now some sort of overseas colony of, of Israel. I'm being pretty tough in this, but I think there's some really serious questions to be asked. And we should also be looking at the names of the people who've set up these joint arrangements with Israel. Who were they?

Where are the minutes of the meeting and what is proposed next? Sadly, are we able to hear you?

Yeah. Can you hear me? Now, OK, so let's over to you. Then yeah, I mean, I've been, thank you very much. I've been looking really at, yeah, it's the division that's that's happening within the UK and, and actually all over Europe over the immigration crisis. And I, I just looked at this quote from Karl Marx where he said a spectre is haunting Europe. All the powers of Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exercise this spectre.

Pope, Tsar and Metternich and Ghizo, French radicals and German police and spies. Basically, you know what he's saying is there's a spectre now he's don't. That's not the only spectre. Communism obviously is what he's talking about. But we've got another spectre. And I just want to sort of, some people may have seen this. I saw it certainly 10 years ago in Sweden. A lady called Barbara Lerner Spectrum made a very bold claim.

She said Europe has not yet learnt how to be multicultural, but it must become so if it is to survive. And our people, bearing in mind she's Israeli, our people will be at the centre of making this happen. Now, these words weren't just off the cuff. You know, she was the founder of of a company called Pedia Institute, which is backed by the Swedish government and and funded. And she was part of something bigger, a web of radical NGOs and foundations shaping Europe's

future. So let's see what she had to say 10 years ago. I think there's a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we're going to be part of the throes of that, of that transformation which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for

Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive right? I think when she said monolistic, I think she meant sort of traditional Christian, you know, values of Europe. So it's quite interesting what she said there. Now I want to just look at some of these NGOs.

We've got the one called HIAS, which is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and we've got Open Society foundations of George Soros as well, the American Jewish Committee and the European Jewish Congress. So some of these, I mean, they're, they're heavily funded and they have billions in resources to fund any, any program they wish.

And this, this, this program, which is, let's face it, it is the, the Kudnov Kilergy programme, which people are given the Charlemagne Prize for, for actually rolling this out in Europe. So, you know, I, I think the, the shared reasoning of, of what she's saying is she's saying a multicultural Europe is safe, a safer Europe for minorities, especially Jews. And at first it sounds kind of noble. Who wouldn't argue against tolerance and safety and diversity?

But if you look closer, there's massive double standards. As we, as we can see in Europe, the message is, is clear, it's breakdown the old order, tear away the, you know, the traditional values and dissolve the nation state. You know, it's diversity at any cost. But in Israel, the message is the polar opposite. You know, if Israel defines itself as a Jewish state, immigration is tightly controlled. The demographics are guarded now and multiculturalism is, is seen

as a direct threat to survival. So how can it be both? You know, this is, this is my question. So you know, we've, we've now got this, this March on the on the 13th, Tommy Robinson is leading another one of his his marches. And the target really is, is, is, is immigration. So ordinary working class people are, are, are quite right, rightly angry at what's going on in a, in, in Europe and our country because it's too fast. It's too, it, it, it's scaled of it.

And we don't, you know, it's UN, it's UN unregulated. So what we, you know, the, the Muslims are, are, are seem to be being scapegoated, you know, and the real architects of this policy remain kind of, you know, behind the scenes. So the aim is to to create division without, without, without question. And it's manufactured. It's manufactured division that we, we simply can't tolerate.

And you know, the, The thing is that when you've got a lot of people, you know, in, in one place, we have to be mindful. And my, my, my sort of message really to anybody that's going to that March is that this is a, a perfect opportunity to almost play them at their own game. And literally, you know, all, all people of Britain who are call this home and are, are all coming together on this March to stop the destruction of the home. The place they call home need to

be really together on this. And there shouldn't be any tension. And they should be come coming together to to literally be that that force of unity in in, in fighting, not fighting this, but in standing against the destruction of the UK. Sandy, thank you for that.

Now let's move on then to online safety and well, yesterday apparently was online safety Day 2. We'll explain that in a second. But vulnerable people across the UK are going to be shielded from the most dangerous online content as new laws are said to be introduced to prevent devastating self harm material from reaching people of all ages. And I hope you appreciate that those are not my words. Those are the words of the British government. So yesterday they announced

urgent action. This is their words again. To toughen the Online Safety Act by putting stricter legal requirements on tech companies to hunt down and remove material that encourages or assists serious self harm before it can destroy lives and tear families apart.

While platforms already have to take specific steps to protect children, they say from this dangerous self harm content, The government recognises that adults battling mental health challenges are equally at risk from exposure to material that could trigger a mental health crisis or worse. And they said that these new regulations mean that content encouraging or assisting serious harm will be treated as priority

offence for all users. This change will trigger the strongest possible legal protections. Compelling platforms use cutting edge technology to actively seek out and eliminate this content before it can reach users and cause irreparable harm, rather than simply reacting after someone has already been exposed to it. So that's what they had to say about this now. This is the first act of Liz Kendall. There she is. Happy, Liz there.

And this is just a couple of days since she became technology secretary. She says the regulations will come into force 21 days after they're made, following approval by both Houses of Parliament. Now don't make me laugh, please.

This is going to be done via statutory instrument which is going to be laid before Parliament, probably on an indeterminate Sunday during the autumn when no one's there to challenge it. So this is a new level of censorship which is being imposed under the guise of protecting vulnerable people from harmful content. It should be noted here that the direct encouragement of suicide is already illegal under the 1961 Suicide Act, unless it's assisted. Suicide.

I knew that was coming up. But content that portrays self harm is not illegal. Neither is content which portrays suicide as positive or desirable, and neither is content which provides information on methods of self harm. So this is the return of the legal but harmful issue that was supposedly dropped from the Online Safety Act during the before it was actually passed as

an act. Of course, I'm not suggesting that content such as this is desirable or should be encouraged, but it's not illegal and it is being used as a poster child for the rolling out of technology that scans social media content as it's being uploaded so that it's censored before it ever appears on a platform. Now I'm going to ask hands up anyone who thinks that this will stop with self harm, because of course it won't.

This is a significant expansion of the Online Safety Act scope, moving from the idea of sort of reactively taking down content to anticipation of whatever that content might be. And of course they've got to scan all content if they're going to identify content that is relevant to self harm. So this is only the start. And remember, the Online Safety Act is an enabling act that enables its own expansion via ministerial decree as we've seen in this case.

So let's then move on to the next step in the roll out of the ACT, the so-called super complaints. The Online Safety Act allows expert organisations, you can laugh at that too, representing users or the public to make special complaints to Ofcom called a super complaint.

These are their words. Super complaints should be a about features of sites and apps that are regulated or the behaviour of organisations that run them that risk causing serious harm to people who are significantly affecting people's right to freedom of expression. Now do you see what they did there? They enable super complaints which will result in limiting people's right to free expression in order to protect people's right to free expression. How does that work?

Well, it it's all thought crime, in my, my opinion, absolutely. It's all thought crime, yeah. So super complaints are going to help organizations who are experts about online harm to ensure issues can be brought to Ofcom's attention. So note the language organizations who are experts about online harm. I I wonder who those could be. Well, let's have a look at what they say. So they say who can make a super complaint? They talk about people who use regulated sites and apps or

people who represent people. Sorry, try that again. Organizations, because this can't be brought by an individual or people. It has to be brought by an organization who use the regulated sites and apps or who represent the general public or a specific group of people. It has to be an organization that operates independently from regulated sites and apps. And it it has to be an organization regularly takes part in public discussions about

online safety as an expert. So that's, that's basically, that's basically it. We're seeing the massive ramping up of this situation and this legislation and this censorship regime. Where could it go wrong? Well, everywhere might, but I'll just say this is where Sandy's point is so important that big demonstrations, violence helps exactly what we're warning about here in the news today.

When people are quiet and measured, we've got a much better chance of getting through this type of pernicious censorship. So I just think that's worth

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Yes, being edited at the moment, but I just wanted to highlight it because Kim has gone from one woman challenging the sexual grooming of children through the education system to the fact that the end of this month, she'll be going to Washington with a group of other individuals to challenge the World Health Organization on their disgusting child sexuality education programme. And Kim did a really brilliant interview with me warning about the specific dangers of that

programme. So I just want to say an amazing lady who has achieved and is achieving a huge amount.

Let's come back onto the issue of Israel and Gaza then, Ryan. Yes, well I just want to highlight firstly the discussion that Patrick Henningson and I had about the BBC documentary 2 Girls shot in Gaza. This was by Stephanie Hegarty, the so-called population correspondent of the BBC World Service, but we took our time to analyse her work because we thought it was so good and so credible.

What was she warning about? Israeli snipers, IDF snipers deliberately targeting young children and toddlers in Gaza. Very emotional but a very, very precise documentary. And if you haven't seen Patrick and and my commentary on it, please go on the UK columns website and have a look. Well, what did I see in the last day? But the Guardian here with an article the Gaza family torn apart by IDF snipers from Chicago and Munich. And notice what is happening here.

We're not dealing even with Israelis. We've now got, we've now got members of the Jewish community who've been drawn back into Israel in order to take place, take part of the Israeli Defence Forces. So are these people German? Are they American anymore? What are we dealing with? The meat of this is that an investigation was carried out and it included review of an interview that was done with an IDF sniper, Daniel Robb, who was a full of a Chicago basketball player.

And this is some of his commentary over the death of three members of a family. And what what happened is 1 was shot, he shot 1. And then as the next family member came forward to try and recover the body, that that person was then shot and three members of the family were shot. So he says it's hard for me to understand why 19 year old Salim Domos tried to retrieve his brother's body. And it also doesn't really interest me. I mean, what was so important about that corpse?

He went on to say they, the people in Gaza are thinking, oh, I don't think I'll get shot because I'm wearing civilian clothes and I'm not carrying a weapon and all that. But they were wrong. That's what you have snipers for this Mike. In my opinion, this is very, very callous language, even for a sniper. He is obviously very happy that civilians are coming forward into his sights and he he believes he can kill them all

with impunity. He goes on to say they civilians just kept on coming to try and take these bodies and I've added so I took easy shots to kill them. This is really disgusting material and this is a result of a 5 month investigation. So this is on top of the BB CS own investigation of other cases. Daniel Rapp goes on to say it's a question of distance. There is a line that we define. They, the ordinary people of Gaza, don't know where this line is, but we do.

So civilians are trying their best just to live amongst the carnage and the rubble of Gaza. They cross a line of which they are not aware, and an American Israeli sniper simply uses that as his cue to kill them. And he goes on to say that his team killed 105 people during his Gaza deployment. That's really impressive. This, this to me, this is a war crime. There's no ifs or buts and the

evidence is mounting. If we have a look at other comments in the article, the reporter who interviewed the Gazan family that lost three members asked not to be named because Israel has killed at least 189 journalists in Gaza. This is something that's simply not really being discussed on a

world scale. And the article went on to say that establishing an invisible security perimeter, then shooting civilians who cross it, has become a common practice in Gaza. Israeli soldiers have testified. So this is not an investigation into one individual.

There's a number of people commenting, and the article goes on say the attacks match a pattern described by a former Israeli reservist who told the Guardian that soldiers he served with in Gaza repeatedly shot unarmed Palestinians trying to collect bodies. And I'll bring back on screen here the whole question. These are dual nationality individuals. So where does their loyalty lie? Will they think they can kill people in America or Germany in order to protect Israel? We don't know.

And are these men committing war crimes on behalf of Israel? If so, they should surely be tried for it. I think this is this is some of the most disgusting stuff that I've come across, Mike. People dying in explosions and bombings. Yeah, particularly bad. We've got people who are simply being given weapons to go and hunt and shoot children, toddlers and unarmed people as

if it was some sort of sport. Well, I've I've got to sort of time to get comment from Vanessa right now, but I absolutely want to talk about this in extra because first of all, I suspect this has been going on for much longer than. Just. The last couple of years, but also we've seen this type of thing in other conflicts as well. So I want to talk about this

quite a bit more in in extra. But look, let's look at Unit 8200, because it's around a month since Microsoft claimed to have begun an urgent inquiry into the Israeli signals intelligence and cyber warfare agency Unit 8200's use of their infrastructure. That's Microsoft's infrastructure to store and analyse millions of intercepted phone calls from Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, allegedly for surveillance in air strike target

identification. And of course, this is an impossible violation of Microsoft terms of service, never mind the complicity in the genocide issue. So a month has passed and there's been, there have been no updates from Microsoft nor any effort to drop Unit 8200 as a customer. It seems to be. So let's just make sure that they're both on screen so that we know what their various logos look like.

Now, the allegations against Unit 8200 came via investigative reporting by the Guardian, but also by +79, Sorry, +972 Magazine, and also an organization called Local Call. The report asserts that Unit 8200 maintained its own siloed Azure. That's Microsoft Azure. That's a cloud platform environment allegedly granted through a deal with Microsoft's chief executive directly. Analysts claim that the data was instrumental in identified

bombing targets. And now this has been going on since 2002. And the claim is that more than 11 1/2 thousand terabytes of intercepted Palestinian communications data are stored on Microsoft servers in the Netherlands, and that this is equivalent to 200 million hours of phone calls, in addition to additional data in Ireland and also in Israel. This is the second inquiry launched by Microsoft. An earlier 1 announced in May this year reportedly found no evidence or misused, misuse or

targeting of civilians. Note the word civilians there, but even that is in dispute. So Microsoft claims in its statement that the CEO and other executives were unaware of the nature of the data being stored, although documents suggest a 2021 meeting between the chief executive and Unit 8200's commander Yossi Sariel where plans to move up to 70% of intelligence data onto So that's the Unit 82 hundreds intelligence data onto Azure were discussed, according to the

these various reports. The revelations sparked strong reactions within Microsoft. Employees protested and a group called No Azure for Apartheid demanded that Microsoft cut ties with the Israeli military. And Microsoft shareholders also called for greater transparency and human rights due diligence. But you'll note they didn't call for the dumping of the customer. So let's just have a reminder of what 8200 is.

As I said in the beginning, it's Israel's signals intelligence and cyber warfare agency within the IDF. So it's equivalent to GCHQ or in the UK or the NSA in the United States. It was set up in 1952 and engages in offensive cyber warfare as well as signals intelligence. It's been connected to high profile operations such as the Stuxnet attack on Iran's nuclear centrifuges and it has a track record of engaging in AI enhanced targeting, including operations against Hamas and

other so-called adversaries. We might read that as civilians, particularly under the leadership of Yossi Sariel we've just mentioned. Now according to the World Socialist website, more than 60% of its personnel are now engineers or data scientists. It's established AI factories and A and centralised target centre to accelerate the process from data interception to act actionable targeting using AI

and cloud infrastructure. And so, you know, I'm going to just put in here, isn't any surprise that both the UK and the United States are working as fast as they can to catch up because they want this as well. Now, this latest situation is only scratching the surface of what they've been up to, of course, because they've cultivated what is being described as a flourishing alumni network. 8200 veterans have founded or lead, and we've talked about this many times.

They've founded or lead prominent cyber and tech startups like, for example, Checkpoint, Black Cube, Carbine, Kanderu, Palo Alto Networks. Other former staff have moved into influential roles in tech firms like Google, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Amazon, Open AI, NVIDIA and Israeli surveillance companies. Again, many of them funded by Unity 200 veterans, export offensive cyber tools worldwide. Companies like Cognite collect telecoms data and metadata for

analysis. Others market biometric network intelligence and spyware systems to Western agencies, including law enforcement and intelligence services.

And there's a reporting on Friday last week immigration agents in the United States will once again have access to one of the what was described as one of the most sophisticated hacking tools after the Trump the Trump's decision Trump regime's decision, sorry to renew a contract with Paragon Solutions who produce spyware product called graphite.

So, you know, this is this organization is embedded directly into the heart of everything that we do on the Internet. It is absolutely using its technology to target Palestinians and, of course, hosting that on companies that Western individuals are funding often. So, you know, I think we need to be reconsidering where we're putting our money.

Indeed. Yeah. Where does that take us? Back to Vanessa, I believe. And Vanessa, some commentary on the BRICS nations. Yes, I'm I'm going to probably ruffle a few feathers with this short report and I'm sure it warrants further discussion in extra, but I wanted to focus on a statement made by Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Said Al Khamenei in the last few days where he calls basically for a global economic and political quarantine of the enemy, meaning Israel.

He encourages all Islamic and non Islamic nations. And I'm assuming he's referring to Greeks nations of which Iran is a member because obviously appealing to Western countries isn't going to have much effect. But he appeals for them to cut all trade ties, suspending port access, freezing bank transactions, denying energy supply and severing political relations to bring pressure to bear to end the genocide both in Gaza and, of course, in the occupied territories.

Now, I will refer people to this article that I published up at the Wall Will Fall, which was written by Professor Patrick Bond, I think, in November last year. The blessing. You'll remember the curse and blessing map that Netanyahu showed at the UNGA showing countries within BRICS being included in the blessing. And of course, Iran being included in the curse, the blessing for genocide. Nearly all BRICS regimes nurture

Israel economically. Now of course, when we talk about international law and all BRICS countries do make statements adhering to international law and condemning the worst for violating or basically shredding humanitarian law, Geneva Conventions, particularly on genocide and international law generally. Now this is a new account on X that is putting out some good data on this kind of subject and I do recommend following them. Yesterday they sent me this.

So BRICS is reshaping A multipolar world, but how are they responding to Israel's genocide of Palestinians? Our latest analysis tracks 2025 exports January to July to Israel versus 2024, with critical insights. Now, first of all, they summarize China and India, top military suppliers to Israel, Russia, Egypt and the UAE, leading energy exporters to Israel. Brazil and South Africa are the ones that are kind of throttling back on energy exports dropping in the ranking in 2025.

And what they say is BRICS trade patterns reveal stock divides in geopolitical stances. Now I want to have a look at this infograph that they oh, sorry, no, I won't. I'll first of all mention recent reports in Israeli media on a new deal in fact between Israel and India, who inked A bilateral investment deal in New Delhi to foster trade.

Just one example of the collaboration between BRICS nations and Israel. Not only Israel, I would also mention countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia that historically were established by the British to actually form a partnership with the Zionist entity and protect it from the resistance pan Arab alliances that might threaten it in the future. That's an important point to make. So if we can just keep this following diagram on the screen, people can zoom in on it.

But just while I I run through it because I think it's important to do this, you can take your time and look more deeply into the information that's included on there and in the article that will be in the show notes. But if you look left to right, you see Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa in overall trade partnership. Russia is #7 India is number 8 and China is number 1.

And China is exponentially increasing its trade partnership with Israel. And that includes Chinese state companies being involved in the settlement programs in the occupied territories and investment in Haifa port to facilitate the offloading of weapons to the Israeli military. Russia is #2IN energy supply. India #5 sorry, India and China are #5 and #3 respectively in war goods. Now, that's quite an extraordinary statistic when one considers who are the primary partners.

Of course, from an armaments perspective for Israel, China is publicly saying that it's a genocide. Russia and India have not publicly said that in any of

their statements. So I think the point is, if we look at the ICJ ruling from July 2019, sorry 2024, all states are under an obligation not to recognize as legal the situation arising from the unlawful presence of the State of Israel in the occupied territories of Palestine and to not render a need or assistance in maintaining the situation created by the criminal presence of Israel in the occupied territories. This is just one ruling, of

course. Under the Geneva Convention, every state globally has a responsibility to both prevent genocide and punish the perpetrators of genocide. And while nobody is advocating that BRICS countries are responsible for what is happening, what we are saying is that they have the power to economic automatically bring serious pressure to bear upon Israel and to stop the genocide.

They have that ability and therefore I think they should be held to account for not fulfilling that responsibility. I struggled to to argue with that Vanessa. We will we'll have a go at arguing about it in extra though. And you know, it's, it is an incredible situation, these countries without doubt doing some positive things in the world, but they can't, they have to be held account for whenever they're not.

And I think this is 1 area where they particularly because they're taking such a stand with respect to international law and and the West. So we'll, we'll talk more about that an extra. Absolutely, Sandy.

Let's come back to UK issues then and the situation with respect to Land Management and you're going to use the Somerset Levels as an example. Yes, I mean, it's, it's almost like it's gone full circle again.

We've got, we've got a lot of the, the Environment Agency just last last month, at the end of last month announced that they were not go. They couldn't afford to dredge the, the, the, the rings and the, and, and, and the, the, the water courses that actually drain the Somerset Levels. And they're not going to maintain the culverts or the pumping stations because they, they don't have any money apparently. Now this is what happened in 2014. We had a very similar time.

We'd had a drought and then than a than a, a massive spring rainfall or not even spring. It was January and February when it rainfall and there's a Somerset father, Somerset farmer, father Somerset farmer who's who's, who's, who's put this together very, very well that you know that the parallels between 2014 and now. So if we can just listen to him first, that would be great. Looking at everyone, feast your eyes upon it's awesomeness. Yes, this is England's green,

pleasant land, right? Green at the moment because it hasn't rained in three months. But peek to the scene. Your business floods every year. It's underwater, in my case at 120 acres to the point where it cannot be used for anything. And up until that point, business called the Environment Agency and arm of the government, or someone funded by the government would say, don't worry, we'll come along and we'll dig out all these big rivers for you. And these, what are they called? Reins.

So big ditches that you might know, and we're going to help maintain them so other places don't flood. Taunton, Langport, Yeovil, wherever it might be. Not anymore. This is going to directly affect you, everybody. The EA have announced with six months notice period that they have to do so. When's that going to put us? Probably in the wettest part of the year that they are no longer going to maintain about 80% of the rivers and Reens that they currently do.

Now, EA, if I've got that wrong, please come and tell me. Desperate Dan Zeichner, you head up Defra, you pay for the EA Come and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to go to Facebook prison. So picture the scene, your business and I'm talking to you now, general public is going to look like my business because if I'm getting feet of water sat on the countryside at the moment and that water was being removed, what is going to happen

now going forward? I think the government, I fear, have forgotten about the floods of 10 years ago, which were absolutely catastrophic for this part of the world and it's only going to spread. Well, there, there you have it straight from the, the farmer. And he's absolutely right. I mean, when in 2014, I, I was actually down at, at Boroughbridge sandbagging overnight when, when the floods happened because the River Parrot was going to come over

the over the edge. And it was interesting how there was no help from the British government at all at that time. And people were evacuating their livestock. They were, they were leaving their homes. Their homes were destroyed, businesses were destroyed, farms were were destroyed and and have never recovered actually.

And people are now living there and they're uninsurable and uninsured because of this, this huge flood that happened, which covered, I think it was 65 square miles of, of, of Somerset. Now, when I was down there, all the press were there on the, on the bridge, but no, no help at all. And I met a, a journalist called Christopher Booker who worked for the Telegraph. And he, he, he published a very, very good article afterwards. And it was, it was how it was a deliberate flooding of the

levels. And I'm absolutely convinced he's, he's right because in this article he talks about, but it was all policy decisions, deliberate policy decisions that led to the led to the flooding. The Labour, the Labour flood minister Elliot Morley at the time in 2005. He was later jailed for expenses for fraud, adopted an EU habitats director, driven policy to promote flooding for wildlife benefit. Dredging of the River Parrot was halted due to costly EU waste rules.

Again, same thing that's happening now. And Morley also blocked a proposed pumping station at Dumbo which would have allowed 24 hour flood clearance. So by 2000 and eight 2009, the government and the Environment Agency openly recognised that increased flooding might breach property and human rights, but pressed ahead regardless. And they spent 8 million to restore the floodplains.

So the Met Office, you know, they, they put up, they put out a very misleading forecast of dry weather in November 2013, which led to South Lake Moor being deliberately flooded, obstructing water drainage when heavy, heavy rains arrived. So this, this combination of blocked drainage, no pumping stations and the deliberate flood storage caused the devastation of these 65 square miles of Somerset.

Now, you know, afterwards they, they made a big thing about repairing everything and they made promises that they're now not keeping. Now, Christopher Booker, just to let you know, did write the most amazing paper on global warming, a study and group think which do look at that. That's on my website. You can find it online.

And it's it's incredible. And he really knew what was going on. So yeah, what was extraordinary was there was the the lack of help from the from the British government or any, any agencies, the the Environment Agency was nowhere to be seen. But what we did find is that they, they, they, they held a sort of almost like a photo shoot for the army. They, they turned up, they put a few sandbags down the line and then they, they went again.

So there was no help. But what we did have was help from a Sikh agency and they were called Khalsa, and they were amazing people. They worked through the night sandbagging and doing, you know, doing really, really good, good work, helping the people of Somerset. And they're flown in from the Haiti earthquake to do that. So it just shows you that what a third world country we're becoming. And that was in 2014.

So I just want to highlight what I found out, because when I was down there with Christopher Booker, he did say look at policy. C6 of the Environment Agency because I spoke to him and he he confirmed that it was Agenda 21, which it was then it wasn't even Agenda 2030.

He said this has all been put together by policy and have a look at Policy 6 now that pink area on Policy 6 is the area that got flooded and that that area was designated in 1997 by Baroness Young from the Ramsar Treaty of Wetlands Diversity wetlands in the Ram in Ramsar in 1971 under an EU directive for biodiversity and wading birds to flood certain areas of the world. And that particular area was flooded. So it was, it was fulfilling, fulfilling that, and it was for biodiversity.

So what's what we're finding now is that Somerset is flooding again. They're telling us, they're warning us and this, this particular picture is quite emotive. This is what we're getting at the consultations about flooding and how to have resilience against flooding in Somerset again. And I think we'll have the next slide, which is, yeah, this is how you have to ensure your house against flooding, you know, put your TV on the wall, you know, sort of build up your

front step, have sandbags. All of this is, is, is, is being not, let's not, let's, let's put the infrastructure in to stop it flooding. It's what we can do for resilience. So it's a deliberate thing. It's going to happen again. And the next slide is, is really about their their recruiting flood wardens to help with this. You know, it's community involvement. Get the flood wardens out. Yes, that's what they'll do. And I'm just looking at the, some of the NGOs that are, are,

are really funding this. And they're, they're, it's all green NGOs. And you'll find that flag the the one there which is the, I can't even remember what the acronym is. I think I've got another slide. These are all the NGOs that that deal with it. And it's, yeah, the flag is the, I can't remember, sorry, I should remember this. But anyway, it's a very, they're very, it's a very green NGO that promotes planting of trees and building little dams to stop the water.

Now you can't plant trees and hedgerows at this stage because it's too late. We're we're going to flood this year coming. You know, we're going to flood. And I'm seeing that this is all part again. I'm, I'm linking all this up to the 17 goals. And this is two goals. There's life on land, which is, which is really all about climate change and, and, and mitigating things with green initiatives, but not with proper

infrastructure. And we've, we've got another one, which is obviously climate action. Everything is blamed on climate change. Carbon and life processes become the new global currency. Everything is blamed on climate change. And this will be so we've we've just got another history repeating itself and another destruction of British farmland.

Thank you for that, Sandy. OK, we'll, we'll see what happens over the winter, but as you said earlier, it's, it's looking like the forecast is for quite a wet winter after a very dry year. So yeah, I'm quite certain that you're absolutely right on this. Well, look, we've got to leave it there for today. Thanks to Brian, to Sandy, and to Vanessa. Did you have something you wanted to add? 1 ticket left. There is one on location ticket left.

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