UK Column News - 19th May 2025

Good afternoon. Today is Monday the 19th of May 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted to have Ben Rubin with me in the studio. And we're also joined by Diane Rasmussen, Mccaddy from the North of England. Well, we've had a challenging day here in the UK column. And finally, the technology is doing what it should do. So we're delighted to bring you the news.

And I'll just say straight off that as we've become, as we've come live with you today, of course, the reports are coming in of Keir Starmer's successful negotiations with the with the EU. And I'm sure Mike will cover these in detail on Wednesday. But just as a a snapshot, there's been a deal agreed on fishing, which is going to allow the EU to stay fishing UK waters until 2038. So that's obviously a win for the European Union.

There's going to be some slight adjustments on checks on on farming food products going to the EU. So that's smoothed the path for Keir Starmer to be back with his friends in the European Union. But the critical thing which the whole UK column team have been watching is what was going to happen in relation to defence and security and well, no surprise. A security a new security pact

has been agreed. We haven't got the details of that yet, but apparently Kier Storm is very excited because it's going to give UK firms access to 150 billion defence and security loan fund. So we can't do any of this stuff ourselves as the UK is a nation statement. Luckily we can continue to feed off EU funding. There's been a deal done over carbon and that will affect that will effectively put a joint EUUK plan in place for carbon

taxes. And the last thing is that passports, they've been working on that to improve access with E gates for those travelling to and from the European Union. And a lot of people will be very excited that there's also, they're also making it a little easier for pets to travel. O not sure what your reaction on that is, Ben, but for me at least, it's EU military unification which is the key

thing. Now, I know this has been discussed by the UK column team over the last few days, but let's put on screen the key slide here, which is where people need to go if you're going to see the chronology for the rise of the EU military unification plan. And it's only the UK column that's had that detail on it now before I knew what was actually going to appear in as a result of the joint Starmer EU talks, this was my proposed first slide for today. So I think I got it pretty

right. I called it the fishy smell of UKEU military because of course everything else in this deal to me at least, seems to be a spokescreen to detract people away from this critical issue of unification between the EU and Britain in defence and security matters. Now everything else I believe is a is a sideshow. So to concentrate on fishing, that's a high profile and very emotional subject for many people, like rubber boats crossing the channel. So in into the frame comes

fishing. And then of course, we've made it easier for pets to travel. So a lot of smokescreen there. But the critical thing is what's happening behind the scenes with this military unification. Now I'm just going to move on a bit because of course, the other thing that's been happening at the moment is that we've seen the reports of the arson attempts around Kier Starmer's property and a car that he sold a while ago. Well, we now know that one of the perpetrators is actually Ukrainian.

And I'm going to say, Ben, to me at least it seems that there are huge questions to be asked because if we, if we have now allowed 600,000 Ukrainians into the UK with virtually no security checks, what are we dealing with? Is this a disgruntled person? Some people are suggesting that one of the individuals was a rent boy, whatever that may mean. But is this somebody who feels that if they've been wronged, they're going to carry out criminal action in the form of arson?

Or is this an individual, perhaps controlled by the European, sorry by the Ukrainian state, who has been meddling in high level British political spheres? We've no way of knowing. He certainly knew where Starmer lived. It's, it's quite remarkable, isn't it? He knew where where he lived. And it would appear that he knew a car that Starmer had owned and recently sold. But who is this man? And why should we trust him simply because he's a Ukrainian?

And if we can't trust him, what do we say to Stormer's government? That, of course, is continuing to allow people in from Eastern Europe without any appropriate checks. I think this is a very dangerous situation. Now, alongside Starmer, let's have a look at this. Basically, if I just pop this one up on screen, this was a Sky report here, fairly low key, but

what are we talking about? Well, we're talking about Auk Reaper drone that was allowed to kill an individual in Aleppo and see whether we can bring in a bit more detail here. So this was the key headline. The UK conducted fatal drone strike confirmed for the first time since Starmer became Prime Minister. And I've just taken a little bit of the text because I want to discuss part of this. The UK mission to combat ISIS is known as Operation Shader.

It was something that Sir Keir Starmer said should continue when he became Prime Minister. However, the operational decisions are made by the military and #10 would not have signed off on the strike. Now, I find this particularly interesting and I'm going to look to you again, Ben, because the military, sorry if Keir Starmer wasn't aware what was going on here. How are we actually conducting

our overseas affairs? Who was actually making the decision that an individual was going to be killed on foreign territory? Some would say murdered, and I think there's a lot to be said about that. Who was making the decisions? How was it that Starmer was in no way involved? And was this an an attack as part of, well, what was it? We're not at war anywhere that I'm aware of. So what actually was this and is he a? Summary is is he accountable for

anything as Prime Minister? Is he accountable? A summary X execution is how this seems to me. Now. Remember what has taken place that that drone has to have the full level of support around it. It has to be launched and flown. And then a decision was made that a missile from that drone was going to kill an individual claim to be deaf. But we have no evidence, We have no information in the public domain about what was happening.

Now, let's also, while we think about that, have a look at this headline from the Jerusalem Post from a day ago. It says that Syrian Defence Minister General Kazara met with an official British delegation led by, quote, political adviser Charles Smith. Well, I was very curious about this. They posted another picture of this man, and I'm going to ask the question, who is exactly the political adviser, Charles Smith? I can't find any, any easy information on this man or who

he works for. But now apparently, we're not conducting overseas negotiation with accountable diplomats. We've simply got a unknown political adviser. So if there's anybody out there who knows this man and what he's about, I'd be very grateful and I'd like to know. Now this this event was also repeated in the media Line, another Middle East newspaper. And my point here is that virtually nothing has been reported in UK.

So to find out what's going over on overseas with an unknown political adviser, we have to look at foreign news outlets in order to glean any information at all. So the public wasn't told any of this.

In a move unprecedented since the outbreak of the Syrian war, Syrian defence minister met Thursday with an official British delegation led by political adviser Charles Smith to explore ways of supporting the reconstruction of the Syrian Army and enhancing stability stability in the country in the broader region. And the Ministry of Interior said in a statement that the delegation discussed avenues of support for the Syrian military with the defence minister and

other related matters. And if I just carry on there, apologies for the slight overlap of the text. The meeting addressed opportunities for technical and military cooperation and mechanisms for developing the army structure to meet modern challenges. Both sides emphasized the importance of continued dialogue in facing mutual threats, particularly terrorism and

border security. And a source in the Ministry of Defence, I believe that's the Syrian Ministry of Defence told Media Line that such meetings may pave the way for broader agreements involving humanitarian, security and potentially Economic Cooperation. With worsening living conditions across Syria, the country is in urgent need of external support to rehabilitate its core institutions, starting with the military now.

On Friday, Patrick Hennigson put out some truly appalling video of summary executions inside Syria and quite rightly pointed out that we now had terrorists running the country, running Syria, and we have unaccountable British political advisers in negotiations. Meanwhile, the British public is kept in the dark. Think what that means. And if we want to understand how Keir Starmer sees himself as this goes on, let's just have a look at this little video clip

from his Twitter page. There is no dialogue, only music. But let's watch it. The. Well, that was completely unedited. So Keir Starmer thinks he doesn't even need to speak for the wider British public to understand his power and his omnipotence. And essentially there he was on the international stage conducting his business to his entire satisfaction whilst the public in UK are absolutely kept in the dark.

I'm going to say Tony Blair, dangerous Prime Minister Keir Starmer absolutely following in his footsteps and of course, the deaf and Cornish carnage continuing across the world.

Ben, these people are out of control. This isn't democracy. This is absolutely not democracy, although of course it's all being done in the name of democracy or liberal democracies. I'd like to reinforce to you, which I interpret as meaning we can do whatever we want if enough people go along with it. And that's exactly what you've just described. And that all comes down to two things actually that I'm going

to explore today. In this first segment, we're going to look at the narrative, the epistemic narrative that is the battlefield upon which a lot of this is being fought. And then a bit later in the show, we're going to look at the process of elections, what they call democracy ultimately, and how that's also being subverted, interestingly by the same people. And I'm going to come on to Tim Davey, the director general of the BBC, in a moment.

But his ideas are being heavily influenced by these people demos, who we talk about all the time, who are very interested in democracy. They're a champion of people, ideas and democracy. They are absolutely leading the agenda. We talk about these people almost every week. To be honest with you, they're putting out an absolute onslaught of policy documents on basically a weekly basis. They are completely leading the agenda for the Labour government.

But they've been doing it behind the scenes for about 30 years. Importantly, and I've brought this up several times recently, I'm going to keep on doing it because I think it bears scrutiny. They are led by this lady Polly Curtis, currently the chief executive, former editor at Tortoise. Very keen for you to think that the child sexual abuse, the satanic ritual abuse case in Hampstead back in 20/15/2016 was a hoax.

We don't think it was a hoax. We think that the evidence suggested it was absolutely not that and the oops, excuse me, a bit of lost some stuff and I hear it is going to come up now. There we go. My bad, sorry about that. The we talked, we spoke about this report about a month ago, epistemic security, fortifying the UK's information supply chain to tackle the democratic emergencies. This is all about narrative reinforcement. A lot of that related to local newspapers, the local media

ecosystem. We talked about the Public Interest News Foundation, which Polly Curtis is a trustee of, but it also related to the BBC and she was very excited last week to hear that the epistemic security language was being echoed in a speech that was made by the Director General. He was making the case for journalism in democracy and using the language of epistemic security as set out by Demos. So local journalism, space for civic debate and a shared

national narrative. We are lucky to have the BBC. I wonder who we is in that context. So I don't think the the British people are lucky to have the BBC at all. She was referring to this speech. So this was delivered by Tim Davey, Director General of the BBC at the Lowry Theatre in Salford, the BBCA Catalyst for building trust. We'll provide a link. I suggest going to read it.

It gives some fantastic insight into their strategic direction and really what they think about themselves and where they want to take the institution to over the coming years. So just a few choice quotes for you. We see profound changes in people's trust in the information that they receive and they're worried that those who have information are not acting in their interest.

The so-called epistemic crisis. There's the Demos language where many feel that there is no agreed backbone of facts upon which to base constructive deliberation. Right. So Demos issue a thought piece and then within months the director general is directly essentially quoting the language that they're using.

And I think you can see very clear interaction there between the ideas that have been put out by these think tanks, these unelected think tanks operating under the mandate supposedly of democracy or certainly the in the name of democracy, but who themselves have never received any kind of democratic scrutiny. And using those reports to shape and direct not just public opinion, but actually policy for government and important

institutions like the BBC. He goes on to say that the the World Economic Forum has singled out disinformation as the biggest short term risk that we face globally. The recent Edelman trust barometer. Edelman is APR firm. It's a partner of the World Economic Forum that showed a direct relationship between lack of trust and a sense of grievance, active distrust which creates A reinforcing negative spiral that erodes social capital, risking disengagement from communal debate.

Which basically means that people checking out, they're not coming to the BBC anymore, they're not going to the mainstream media, they don't trust their politicians and they are removing themselves from what are from what he calls communal debate. And the BBC cannot have that, cannot be. So they need everyone in it needs to be inclusive in order for them to be able to continue to progress the agenda that they're pushing forward.

OK, another quote here. So these are his prescriptions ultimately setting out the strategic direction of the institution of the BBC over the next few years. So there are five urgent, bold choices that we need to make to directly build trust. All of them not only support our central task of creating outstanding homegrown content and services, but also support the wider challenge of building

trust. This is the currency that they're trading in #1 the choice for the UK to be a global leader in trusted information, which is laughable. I'm sorry, Ben, I did actually start laughing at that. Because yes, it's laughable. It is, I mean, look at what we've just looked at in Brian's opening remarks #2 the choice to help support our democracy from the grounds up, right?

They are absolutely dead focused on getting their hands around the political process and managing the population into the position that the BBC and the establishment want them to be. And that is the BBC's role, essentially, that he's describing here #3 the choice to deploy cutting edge technology and AI to help, not harm our children and their futures.

That sounds slightly terrifying. And I'm going to come back on to that in a moment because they've got big plans for you and your family #4 the choice to maximize growth in our economy by investing in every part of the UK, which essentially from the BBC perspective amounts to creating content production, essentially propaganda facilities in post industrial cities like Manchester and Birmingham. And, and as we said, this speech was given in Salford, up in

Manchester, right? So and, and, and that's BBC state funded driving investment into post industrial cities. That's not economic growth. That's not what that is. Yeah, this is a total distraction and really nothing that the BBC should be involved in at all. And then finally, the choice to ensure everyone benefits from

digital transition, right? And that digital word is absolutely crucial because essentially that's about migrating people to a system that is centrally controlled and algorithmically manipulated by the BBC and the people that are pulling the strings of the corporation. Just finally, a few points about his thoughts on children. Importantly, so he's saying, imagine if we could provide every single child in the UK with proper training on disinformation. So this is what full fact we're

talking about. We covered that a couple of. Two weeks ago, really. Importantly, in the Pairs Foundation and other philanthropic interests, they want the BBC. They want to offer a new BBC family account for every parent of a young child, evolving at key milestones from birth to leaving school, laying the foundations for a lifetime of support from the BBC. Right. So they want you from cradle to grave, essentially, you want to own your mind. That's exactly what these people are doing.

They're building the technology platform to enable it. And then crucially, again, in the context of those that opening segment, the BBC is a tool of British imperial power and not actually soft power. We normally talk about it as soft power, but he says in his quote, the UK is a soft power. Or should that be a hard power superpower that leads the world in high quality media? Imagine the BBC reaching a billion people weekly, currently reaches 450 million people.

Apparently they want to reach a billion people. And that's all about promoting the agenda of Starmer and Demos and the people that control them behind the scenes, ultimately. Ben, thank you very much for that. And of course, the other bit that's happening is the BBC says it's going to be going completely digit digital. It's talking about closing down broadcast services. So we'll update you on that with several things happening at

once. Diane, welcome. Let's bring you in on the news. Well, no children, no child left behind is also another part of Tim Davies advice. What, what a what are the BBC? What's the British government feeding us while the wars go on go on overseas? I think it's something to do with inclusion. Yes, thanks, Brian. Hello, Ben.

It's great to be here today. I, I have a little bit, I want to cover on the things that we're being told for the advancement of the government interest, which of course is corporate interest, which of course goes into basically compromising people who actually do need to be included and are not being included. Over the weekend there was an event in Brighton sponsored by the NHS, but still it was a woman's health event that was meant to be about Women's Health, the health of actual women.

And the policy of this particular event and this group in particular is that it is only for women who, as they say, quote, were registered, observed at females at birth, regardless of current gender identity. But then what happened? There was someone who decided to attend the event and let's see what that person did when they were there.

Hi, I'm Sarah Savage. I'm a trans woman and I'm the leader of Trans by Brighton. I've just been arrested for disrupting a meeting of the notoriously hateful group Sister Salon in Jubilee Library here in Brighton. I just finished a speech of defiance to the International Day of Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia and I was fired up. I was walking home past the library and something went in my head and I knew I could not let it go so I walked into the

library. I found the room where they were having their meeting of the exclusion of transphobia and I hit the fire alarm and everybody had to leave the meeting. All of the turfs had to spy out the door while library security grabbed hold of me and pushed me around. The police were called and I was immediately arrested. Very soon after they found out that I was stating A protest and they de arrested me and they let me go. And I want to send a message to the anti trans, to the

transphobics, to the turfs. I want to tell them that trans people are strong, trans people are fierce. If you wish to remove our rights, we won't let it go without a fight, without a struggle, without defiance. Trans people are fearless, Trans people are strong, and we will not let this go. So what I would like to say to this gentleman in particular is that Diane of UK column is also fearless and she is also a woman and was born 1 and remains one.

They have decided this group that he runs called Trans Pride Brighton is that Labour MPs are banned. So so much for inclusion if you are a Labour MP, in particular Chris Ward and Peter Kyle which we've shown here which is on their websites. They are banned from attending the Trans Pride Brighton event which is taking place on the 19th of July 2025 in case anyone would like to attend and in particular their statement said quote.

We at Trans Pride Brighton have watched in horror the last couple of years of politically motivated tax on the healthcare of trans children. Even more so as it hasn't intensified under the government. We have taken the logical decision to ban the Labour MPs from our event. Chris Ward and Peter Kyle did not speak up in defense of trans kids during the December 2024 parliamentary debate. Neither attended Trans Day of Remembrance where we marked the deaths of numerous trans youth

this year. And both appear to support the widely discredited and deeply flawed cast report, which was not as very evidence based. Trans kids are dying, yet the National Labour Party has chosen to throw its full support behind the far right culture war. So over the weekend, because as you said at the beginning of the news, Brian, I have recently moved to the north of England. So of course I had to go to IKEA to buy some things for my new house.

So what we see here outside of IKEA, who was apparently very concerned about their ESG score and their sustainability, which is all over IKEA, including pronoun badges of the staff that I spoke to. There is a outside of IKEA in Newcastle. There is a a trans or sorry I guess it's just a pride flag next to the UK Union Jack flag fight just at the same level of height.

Now in America that would be illegal because the American flag is required to be higher than any other flag, even a state flag if they are next to each other. Inside of IKEA at the tills there I took a photo of these pride bags that are for sale for £1.50 if you would like to take one home with you. But in the meantime, what's happening here to people who actually do need help?

Well, let's say for example, this woman who posted on X over the week again, that she was not able to get onto a train, any train at Liverpool Street station because the staff at Network Rail collectively refused to deploy a ramp. And she was told that she was being rude for being told that he didn't need, she didn't want the lecture that he was giving her. And so we see here the breakdown of the system once again, people who actually do need help but can't get it for whatever reason.

And the, but we also see now again, the government distracting us with climate finance and saying that the international Climate Finance UK policy now has gender equality, disability and social inclusion built into it. So that is now guidance, in particular how to label someone if they are identifying by a particular gender.

And this applies worldwide, including in developed nations who don't actually follow this agenda because all the climate finance money, as we've reported previously, is going to people who are in developing countries and they are supposedly the ones

receiving the funds. So Brian and Ben, I'd like to get your thoughts on this because it's it's very disturbing, I think what the governments are doing and what corporations are doing to distract us and the people who actually need help can't get it. Diane, thank you very much. Well, for me, it's very easy. This, this is a calculated agenda which is designed effectively to destroy the minds of our children. And of course, we've got it

coming in from 2 angles. We've got it coming in from the government in the form of widespread policy, including through the Ministry of Education, so it comes straight into the schools, but also hand in glove. We've got it with the big corporations. And that is absolutely part of your public private partnership system, Ben, I think, yeah. Absolutely. I think that it's a lot of it's to do with divide and rule and so in the seeds of chaos ultimately in society to make us

easier to control. Chaos in order to destabilise the country to bring in the change that they want. And we can see that Tim Davey from BBC is absolutely on board with this agenda and he wants total, total propaganda control in the country. Lot more to report on that. We'll also discuss it a lot more in UK column X draft to the news

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going out. Cornish Christians say no to Truro diocese plan on the way and this is the plan effectively to shut down churches in Cornwall, Amalgamate the remainder under 1 vicar and in some cases there's multiple churches now being pushed under 1 vicar. And of course this is not tenable and the care of the vicar of course is greatly diminished for his flock within

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Yes, thanks Brian. So tomorrow is International Academic Freedom Day, so if you are a member of Academics Academic Freedom and have signed our pledge to protect academic freedom, there is an online call tomorrow evening that I will be speaking out as well as others who are active in this group.

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Liberal democracy. More liberal democracy. Manufactured democracy as. Well, I'm going to keep on reinforcing this because it's important for people to understand that liberal democracy does mean we can do whatever we want if enough people go along with it. And we talked about the narrative earlier, and now we're going to have a look at the actual democratic process itself, which is also being transformed and apparently completely up for grabs. So let's head back to Demos and

hear about the WAVES programme. Our project is called WAVES. It is, we believe, the largest trial of digital democracy ever done in the UK. What it aims to do is bring people together to tackle contentious local issues and strengthen trust in local government. At the very beginning of Waves, I was inspired by the Digital Democrats of Taiwan. They use new technology to find consensus and even very polarised topics and use that consensus to turn it into actually new law and regulation.

They showed that it could be done. It's going to do this by using new tech and AI to create a process that will make it easier, cheaper and quicker for local governments to involve people in discussions about a specific issue to find consensus between people and use this to shape new decisions that are going to be made by local government to really improve people's lives. For me, democracy means something beyond elections and

beyond referenda. It means actually involving people meaningfully in decisions that really affect and shape their lives. Now, that is easy to say, and it is very, very, very hard to do, and it's something that we have to constantly problem solve for, constantly adapt and innovate on in order to recapture what democracy really can do for each new generation. We're going to trial waves in two local governments over the next 18 months.

Each government is selecting an issue that's important to them and to their public, and what we're going to do is use waves to bring people together to work through the challenge. We'll then develop and iterate waves through these two trials to see what's possible, and then support dozens of other local councils to learn about the process so they can use it in the coming years. So Waves is about technology, but technology about bringing people together even in

polarized and angry debates. But it also means using technology for deliberation decision making, and that is about finding consensus between people even when that consensus is not immediately obvious. Democracy, it means everything to me. It underpins how we function well together as a society. But problem is, it's not working for people right now. People are losing trust in politics and political institutions. So we need to radically renew the way democracy is done.

So, Ben, democracy is failing. We're not going to sit back and think, hang on a minute, why is it failing? We're just going to get on and move it to a technologically based solution. You're not going to actually look at the problem, what's causing the problem, You're just going to move it on to technology. Yes, and let's ignore the fact that 30 years of demos policy initiatives is probably the thing that's making democracy in

the country break, right? And they talk about using technology to to breakthrough contentious issues. You know, like, we're going to destroy your country and you don't like it, so we're going to build this AI platform to ram you through this process of transformation that we're going to insist on. I mean, it's just ludicrous. And and who's behind this? So this was Miriam Levin, director of participatory programs at Demos, and she's been on the column before in a supporting role.

So regular viewers will remember this image. This is from a Demos event held about 18 months ago now. You can see Miriam there on the left hand side in the red shoes sitting alongside Georgia Gould, who was at that point mayor of Camden. She's now running the Cabinet Office, right. So these women are extraordinarily powerful and influential that you've got to sit in front of you here. Third in from the left hand side

in the black and blue dress. That's Lisa Witter from the Apolitical Foundation who are currently completely transforming Cabinet Office central government on the at the behest of Georgia Gold. So that's basically Klein and, and and partner there and then Claudia Chalice from Democracy Next, who was at this event to talk about new governance models that can help breakthrough deadlocks and give legitimacy to hard decisions that require trade-offs. To zoom in on that. There you go.

Now basically means our technology will force you to do whatever we want, right? That's what the systems are for. Ultimately, they want to get you to sign up to things that you would never sign up to. And they're going to use the systems to help them do that. Because interestingly, if they actually tried to debate with you around facts and issues, they wouldn't be able to win the argument. And apparently that's our fault for just being intractable.

And men probably, I'm sure there's a whole bunch of that stuff going on behind the scenes as well. And to kind of counter that they're going to introduce these new systems and that's all about citizens, assemblies, participatory democracy, none of which is actually particularly

democratic. You know, so they'll come out and talk about wanting to defend democracy, but actually what that means is these highly staged, managed, manipulated and controlled basically show elections are these aren't real

elections. And if we can just flip that back onto screen quickly, you can see that in the process of deliberation, which goes from the left to the right, the green bit is where all of the artificial intelligence is going to be introduced in order to control the process and ultimately to control the outcomes. Right. To deliver what it is that Claudia Chalice and Georgia Gould and and Demos and everyone else involved in this this thing one, what does that actually

relate to? Well, here's an example. So this came out a couple of days ago. This is the Mindy majority. So this was actually authored by Miriam Levin. This is a new Demos report. It's about unlocking house building with early and representative public participation in planning.

So this is about helping the government deliver on its promise to to build 1.5 million new homes in England by 2029, which means they need to build 1000 homes a day, which I don't think that that's technically possible to do that, certainly not from the position we're in right now.

And but they, they seem to think that if they can just get the technology and the decision making and the legislation in place and they can just magically create all of these new homes, bulldoze through planning legislation, completely ignored the very valid concerns of huge sways of the population, right? I mean, it's ultimately what they're looking to do here. And we'll provide a link to this. You should go and read it. And what they're talking about is they say Mimby.

So obviously a NIMBY is not in my backyard. Mimby is maybe in my backyard if demos get their hands around me and force me through one of their, their processes. Ultimately, and interestingly, in the introduction to the report, they've, they've, they've brought out a new term, which is the emergency crisis, which doesn't even relate to

anything. This is just crisis, the crisis, crisis, everything we've got to, we've got to change everything because of some poorly defined crisis that we probably have just made-up actually to be honest with you ladies, who's behind it. So we've got another bunch of familiar faces, a few sort of niche technology companies on the right hand side, also new local who have spoken about recently. Going to have to bring them back into the discussion over the coming weeks.

They're absolutely crucial to what's happening in local government. Demos are obviously there. Camden Council, she mentioned she's working with two local governments. I'm sure Camden Council was one is one of them. And obviously Georgia Gold absolutely slap bang in the centre of the Demos ecosystem. She was at an event last year basically saying as Cabinet Office minister that when the rules at the centre are blocking services from delivering for people, we just need to change

those rules. Yeah, we can do whatever we want as long as enough people go along with it, right? You have to understand the mindset with these people. It's all been driven from here. So Democracy Next is backed by Rockefeller Foundation, Open Societies Foundation, and then the Open Societies Foundation takes us into Daniel Sachs and that whole funding ecosystem of people like this. This is Paul Alicon who thinks that the world was created for me. There he is.

You go a little star up there on the left hand side. And then just finally, who was the last guy in the video? This was Carl Miller really old turn of phrase that he used there. He said, and we use that consensus to turn it into actually new law and legislation which doesn't mean anything. And and that made the final cut. So I shudder to think how bad the off cuts were. And he also said that he was inspired by the Digital Democrats of Taiwan. And at that point we are

straight off to crazy town. Let's have a look at this. The most interesting thing in tech, I'm here with Audrey Tong, the first digital minister of Taiwan. And Audrey is responsible for what I think is one of the most profound and important ideas I've heard in AI. And it's the notion that there's a vertical race in which lots of powerful companies are building potentially self replicating AI that will bring great prosperity and also potentially great

troubles to the world. And then there's a horizontal race, a more open source, smaller communities of people, academics, tinkerers, building tools, building ethics, building systems, building explainability in different models that will then be absorbed into the larger models. And that this is the way that we'll end up with extremely powerful AI that is very good for humanity. And Audrey and I were talking about it today.

And then Audrey added another thing which I thought was just truly beautiful, which is a prayer that she came up with in 2016 as a job description, but that also still guides her work and her thinking. And so I thought today, Audrey, you could give this prayer to this video series. Definitely, yeah, when I became the digital minister in 2016 in Taiwan, Shuwei means both digital but also plural.

So it's kind of work play that when we look at the vertical path, which is called the technological singularity, let's think about the horizontal path of plurality. And so my job description goes like this. When we see the Internet of Things, let's make it a Internet of beings. When we see virtual reality, let's make it a shared reality. When we see machine learning, let's make it collaborative learning. When we see user experience, let's make it about human

experience. And whenever we hear that a singularity is near, let us always remember the plurality this year. I love that so much. Profound and wonderful words from Audrey Tank. Thank you so much. Thank you tomorrow. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Audrey. Isn't she lovely? I would just like to say about that, of course, a lot of people listen to that and that immediate reaction is what utter nonsense.

And yes, that may be true. However, these are the people influencing the policy which is doing this immense damage across our world and our lives. So we need to know who the people are. We need to understand the language that they're using and quite often we need to be able to interpret that language in order to understand what they are really talking about because they are masters. Credit where it's due at the use of language to hide what they

they're really doing. That's the top level, yeah. Those are the people really pulling the strings. And we'll talk much more about those two in the coming weeks. OK, Ben, thank you very much for that. I can see we're going to have a very packed UK corn extra.

Diane, let's bring you back. And the subject is is back on the story of those elusive chemtrails. But also you've got some interesting comments about what the BBC has and has not done. Yes, thanks friends.

So going back to earlier in the show when we were talking about BBC being a trusted information source or whatever their phrase was, I want to talk about that because I did a little bit of digging from some based on some things that some viewers have sent me. So I know recently a lot of viewers have been in contact with me because I've been doing some reporting recently on geoengineering and chemtrails and contrails and where the research funding is going.

Again, always using primary sources, not just sensationalist channels, but I'm actually trying to get to the bottom what they are at least telling us they're doing. So some things that I got, for example, from some viewers in the past few days are some communication with their MPs. So when was back from 2014, a viewer sent this to me when, when this viewer was asking about chemtrails and contrails and what's actually going on in the skies.

And this is directly from the the letter that was sent to me where they define chemtrails. And this is contrails. And we say, well, there's no such thing as chemtrails essentially. But they also said, well, there are contrails which are from the aircraft that are additional water vapor essentially has been released by burning fuel and the mixing process depending on the engine exhaust characteristics,

which creates a plume of air. We'll come back to plumes later in the segment and then it goes on to the next page. And it also says a little bit more about that, about what the contrails do, trying to give some sort of scientific so-called explanation about how contrails actually work. And it also talks about climate change.

And one of the things that I've been seeing quite a bit is that they don't really care that much about what the, the, the content of the contrails are, which everyone knows they do exist. But what is actually being released into the atmosphere? It's more about the, the climate change agenda rather than what action might be happening to human health, to people who are sensitive to these chemicals that are being released now.

Another MP that wrote to another viewer that was sent to us last week talked about contrails from aircraft, asking questions about what that meant and some back and forth. So he said that he understands that some countries have used weather modification techniques such as cloud seeding, which I, I reported on that recently that says the UK does not use cloud seeding or deploy geoengineering. And then some more back and forth between the two.

And the MP wrote back and said, I thought this article provided a God summary of the issues. So that was a typo. It should have said good summary but it said God summary which is maybe a Freudian slip, I don't know. So I looked at that article because it links to this BBC website and the BBC website was called Why do contrails appear in the sky? So this is from 20/22.

This is by a woman called Jocelyn Timberly who is a reporter for BBC Future Planets and she said contrails have become an increasingly common sight. Their eye-catching presence has caught the attention of many, including through the surprisingly common belief and the chemtrails conspiracy theory. More on this later. However, it's actually their climate impact that scientists are concerned about. So again, not about human health, but the climate.

So what actually are they and should we pay be paying them more attention? Now within that quote there were some 2 links to two academic papers. And so I followed those links to see what those papers said.

And what was really interesting were were what linked from those papers so that the articles that they cited, for example, at the the first one that I will talk about is the one about the conspiracy theorists that she mentioned that the paper was called solar engineering and the chemtrails conspiracy on social media. Now this paper is very interesting in its own right. I'm not going to go into it, but it will be in the show notes. If you want to read the full

paper. Basically it linked it said that there was a 1999 online post by someone called William Thomas, which was called contrails poison from the sky. And he was asking the question what is in the contrails making people sick? Is it just water vapor or is it more? And they claimed in this academic article that it was the first to link the so-called spraying in the skies to the white lines that we see following claims. The citations were interesting within the William Thomas article.

So it mentioned an US Air Force report from 1996, which this article was apparently written by through within the US Air Force, but it was apparently done as an academic exercise. There's a disclaimer saying that the views expressed in the report are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Air Force Department of Defense for

the US government. Now, whether or not that's the case, who knows, But what I'm to say in this report that weather modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy depending on its

interests at various levels. These levels could include unilateral actions, participation in the security framework such as NATO membership, international organizations such as the UN, or participation in a coalition.

And then it says the, the paper was about what the weather modification will look like in 2025, which is a really good time to be talking about this because then it said assuming that in 2025 our national security strategy includes weather modification, its use in our national military strategy will naturally follow. Besides the significant benefits and operations capability would provide another motivation to pursue weather modification is to deter and counter political

adversaries. Now this was written in 1996 and 1897. So this is what they were talking about would be happening. Now the, the article I mentioned earlier also mentioned HARP, which is the organization of the states. And Harp's website says that no, they cannot create chemtrails. They do talk about contrails that form behind aircraft and they basically just say on their website that it is essentially condensation from the exhaust or jet engines.

That doesn't say anything about the chemicals that are being released now. It also mentions a book which you can read for for free on the Internet Archive called Weather and Climate Modification. This was an academic research government publication published by John Wiley, which is a reputable publisher in academia. The editor was called WN Has. He is of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Environment so research Laboratories published in 1972.

Within the preface it said there is a 28 year history. Remember this is 1972 of weather modification. Now since the revolutionary dry ice seating experiments were conducted by Vincent Schaeffer and Irving Langura at General Electric. There was a major upswing in the late 1940s and early 1950s after Schaeffer's discovery that dry ice would produce snow in a box filled with super cool water drops. This was called Project Series. This was in 1947 was the first one.

There was an article that was published in 2017 by the US Department of Commerce discussing the 70th anniversary of the first hurricane seeding experiment, which is what this was by the US Navy. Also in this book, it asked 8 questions that were meant to be kind of setting out a research agenda for the next few years and these questions were is this a significant? Is there a significant downwind effect from cloud seeding? Can we effectively clear warm

fogs? Can cloud seeding produce severe weather like tornadoes? Remember, this is an American publication. We don't really have this here in the UK. Can we increase participation from winter storms? Can we decrease hail and lightning and thunderstorms? Can we steer hurricanes by seeding them? Can we decrease rainfall under some seeding conditions? Is it possible to understand

long term climatic changes now? So also 1972 there was an experiment called Project Storm Fury where they actually seeded a hurricane. Let's take a look at this from the AP Archive and see what they said. The seeding planes fly across the eye and into these clouds, seeding the Super cooled water droplets from the belt of maximum winds outwards. The seeding cartridges burn out as they fall to produce curtains of silver iodide crystals.

The silver iodide acts to transform the Super cooled water droplets into ice crystals, upsetting the delicate heat balance of the storm and leveling off the sharp pressure differences in the heart of the hurricane, which produce the strongest winds in the storm. Flying a series of intricate patterns into the seeded clouds, the monitoring planes measure any changes in wind velocities and pressure caused by the

seeding. In a related experiment, similar seeding of the outer rain bands of the hurricane is studied for its effect on the storm. Through these experiments, Project Storm Fury hopes to improve our understanding of the structure and the driving forces of hurricanes and tropical

storms. This increased knowledge can lead us toward the goals of better prediction of hurricane behavior and of reducing the maximum winds in the hurricane sufficiently to cause significant lessening of the destructive effect of the greatest storm on Earth.

Now also in that time period we had between 1969 and 1972, there was Operation Popeye, which was the government's operation to prolong the monsoon season in Vietnam during the war using what they called known clouding cloud seeding techniques. And there's this information was released. It was originally a hearing in the US Senate, which was top secret at first, but it's it's now released.

It's freely available online where it said that this rainmaking program was conducted from, as I said, 1967 to 1972, which employed air drops, silver and lead iodide seating units to increase normal monsoon rainfall.

But what's interesting about that is that in 1976, so four years later, the UN, there was a UN paperwork written up called the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques. This happened, of course, after this, this particular operation in Vietnam, and who knows what else happened. We don't really know yet.

But what this said was that they were convinced that the convention should not affect the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes, which could contribute to the preservation and improvement of the environment for the benefit of present and future generations.

So that's saying there, OK, so we're not going to use it in warfare, but if it's going to use so-called save the planet, then maybe we should do it. The other paper, which I won't go into detail, but I just want to mention to close this out was called The Contribution of Global Aviation to Anthropogenic Climate Forcing for 2000 to 2018.

This was the second paper that was linked that I mentioned from the BBC article and it had this little graphic here which made me wonder about the questions of what is in the contrails because it says here all of these different things that are in the plume composition. So this is researchers that are talking about how this is actually working through global aviation measures and it lists a lot of things including others.

So what is the others and why are they so worried about what plane flights do to so-called climate change that we can promote that agenda, but not the health of those of us who are breathing the air that are being released by these particular particles. So I'm just asking the question, Brian and Ben, I don't know what you think, but I'm a bit. I think you're absolutely right to be concerned, Diane.

I think we've got to an interesting stage where information about this subject is coming to the surface and of course it's now becoming easier to dig into it. But we've got, we've got to come back to this key question is what is taking place as we witness every specific event. So is this, is this happening across aviation fuel that's used

by every single aircraft? Is is this one problem in much the same ways that we had a pollution problem when cars were using leaded fuel, so we got to change to aviation fuel? Or is aviation fuel being used selectively in order to get some other agenda with regard to whatever it may be, cloud seeding or any other weather modification experience happening when we see a trail in the sky? It's still difficult to say exactly what that aircraft is doing. And this is the key point.

And of course, the BBC demonstrating there once again that they're only going to go so far into this subject. And if you delve in too far, they're going to brand you a conspiracy theorist. So I think the good news out of this topic at the moment is that it is beginning to break surface and yes, we can be delving into it in order to get more evidence as to what is actually taking place. Letters, questions to your MP, to the BBC, to scientific bodies, of course also make a difference.

Let's just end by a little bit. Possibly a black humour. This is another image from Keir Starmer's Twitter account. I find this one utterly astonishing because the Wizards, as I've labeled them, seem to be in a remarkably childish environment, but I'm not sure where they were actually located. So draw up your own conclusions from the little locos and the icons on the front of the desk. But it would be nice to know exactly what's being said.

And of course, there we've got Zelensky drawn into the inner circle, although we have no idea of this man's morality or his true objectives. But he's certainly got power because his influence is something that took over the Italian Prime Minister Maloney. Here she is in a nice little beige number, strutting her stuff. This was part of a video that I came across over the last few days. They was also saying that clearly Italy doesn't want to get near troops in Ukraine.

But notice her outfit? Well, when she's together with Zelensky, it all changes. And I couldn't resist that. It's definitely back to black. And if you look at Zelensky's face, clearly he thinks he's achieved something. So I'd like to know what took place in their meeting, whether it was in black or not. Was that a pop culture reference, Brian? It was. It was pretty good for me. Fantastic.

Yeah, that's OK. And I'll just end that, of course, in the background over the last few days, the BBC absolutely crowing at the, what it says are record losses for the Russians in Ukraine. So the BBC getting intense pleasure and satisfaction over it, coming out with estimates of Russian, Russian casualties at anywhere from 164,223 to 237,211. And of course the spread there shows you that actually the BBC is pretty unsure of what the

real figures are. But whatever the Russian deaths and wounded figures are for Ukraine, the Ukrainian casualties are far worse. But of course, the BBC does not want to tell the UK public those statistics because that would spoil their agenda as to what's actually happening in the war in Ukraine. Let's end it there. I'm going to say, Diane, thank you very much for joining us. Ben, thank you for joining me. We will be back in a few

moments. If you're AUK column member for UK column Extra, thank you for joining us for the news today, wherever you are in the world. And of course, knowledge of what is taking place in this wider political agenda is the key to stopping it. So look at the people, look at the policies, listen to the language to understand the agenda. And this is the route to an overturning what's taking place. We'll leave it there. Thank you very much for joining us.

As I say, UK column extra in a few moments. Thank you. Bye bye.