None. Do you understand why it is that mothers are OK with this idea of having a doctor put this needle into their baby's arm? Yeah, because we're all brought up in the cult of authority. So the authority always comes from people in Halloween costumes. The police have a uniform. The doctor has a white coat. The priest has this black frock with the white thing. Everyone who's acting in a play is wearing a costume. And you and I are just sitting here like normal.
And the reason they do that is it makes them more believable. That's what costumes are for. If you want to dress up, it's because you want someone to believe you're something you're not. And we're all taught. Oh, no, no. The vaccines eradicated polio, and they eradicated dengue fever and this and that they never show you. Of course, what we know is that those diseases were from other causes, and they were already on their way out at the end of their trends when they
introduced the vaccine. And then they give it credit. So had they not had a vaccine or not, those diseases were already gone down from 0. Most of it was bad sanitation, bad hygienics. You got shit in your water and your food. Like, yeah, so you know, and different environmental factors, DDT on the crops, remember that was polio. And then of course what they do is they say, oh, the vaccine eradicated the disease, but now we got Guillans Barre syndrome and you're like, what's that?
Like, funny enough, it's the identical symptoms as polio, but we got rid of polio with the vaccine. So it can't be that you're like, well, how can 2 diseases have the same symptoms? They just rebrand the name of the disease and then now we can get a vaccine for that. And of course, we know the jabs are causing these diseases. They're not curing anything. And it's really sad. Yeah, because a lot of parents, they are learning.
It's unfortunately, they're learning the hard way because you cripple your child for life or kill them. Remember during Got Convid SIDS or cot death, they used to call it sudden infant death syndrome. It went away like 500%. Funny enough, when you couldn't take your children in to get their vaccines and vitamin K shots and all that, the kids stop dying in their cots just right during the lockdowns for three months, you're like, well, that's a coincidence.
And then we had sudden adult death syndrome. SADS came in. Well, that's funny. That's never existed in the world. And then they rolled out a mass worldwide injection programme with boosters and suddenly adults are just died suddenly, you know, and unfortunately the programming is so deep that you need to be a kooky conspiracy theorist to go looking into medical records and studies and vaccine history.
You know, you oh, you're just a conspiracy theorist and you're like, well, funny enough, none of the conspiracy theorists kids drop dead nor us, nor are we worried about dropping dead. So. And you sent me an email. Who is the guy? He does Dilbert. I think you've had him on your show. He's got cancer now. Scott, Yes, yes, Scott Adams. Right, so what's his story? He took some jabs and boosters.
And he has cancer and he made a video saying that he has cancer and that the anti vaxxers have won. That's. And that's really sad. I don't know the guy, but that that's horrible. However, we don't have proof that his cancer is from the jabs or the I. I know it correlates, but there is actually no proof that he doesn't have cancer from some other kind of toxins. He's been doing so.
And I don't think we won because nobody in the anti vax community or the the no germ community, we don't want to see people with cancer and getting sick and dying. We don't win. We lose just as bad as he does because we don't want to see people get sick. So we say, I told you so. You know, we don't want anyone sick. That's why we're out there doing it. Like our motive is we don't want people getting sick. And that's what these injections
do because they're poisonous. It's no one you you've had lots of guests done. What do you What do you think is the right approach to moms who inject the babies? Do you? Should you be sympathetic when the kids get sick, or should you be angry? I just get sad about it, but I also am at the point where it is what it is. There's it's not really in my control, so all I can do is put out films like I do, as you know, and and go on podcasts and educate people.
It's really up to them if they are going to take the time to do the research. We say, and I always tell the people don't listen to what I'm saying. Don't ever believe me. I'm getting this isn't my idea. Like I'm I'm reading the studies like everyone else. Just go do the research and make a decision. The sad thing is once you hurt your kid for life and it's, it's not actually for life, you know, even if you give him autism or whatever, any of these things, you can detox.
There are ways to heal your kids. But unfortunately, the people who know those cures are the same people you didn't listen to in the 1st place. So you're most likely not going to go see them. You're going to go see the same doctor to look for the cure, you know, and they're going to go no, no, no, we didn't. That wasn't the jab. I think The thing is to just be understanding. Just say you are ignorant and what what is good is that what what's bad?
But the good thing about it is the more people who hurt their children, they become anti vaxxers after they know because they they go. My kid was totally smiling, healthy, rolling around laughing. I took him to the doctor for his five jabs and. And the next days of vegetable and cry, you know, and they know. And the doctor's like, no, no, no, no, that's a coincidence. You're like, so the more they hurt our children, the more people we're going to have on
our side. So there is a silver lining. It's just not a nice one, I think, you know. Yeah, it's a sad. I remember, yes, Steve, I remember when I was a teenager, vaccines were not like they were not a thing. I mean, if someone said to me, are you going to get your flu shot this year? And I said, Nah, whatever, like whatever. And then we'd go play tennis or whatever, you know, now it's like a cult. And there's like, I can't remember how many of the kids get in America now, but it's 60.
I think we had four. I, I was born in 71. I'm pushing 54. So we had like 4. And then we had that one where they prick you on the arm with the three prong thing and you get a scar for life. That right there should be your first sight. Like what did you put in my arm that put a scar for life? I got really hip to the vaccines because I took a flu shot at work once they were giving them away free and I got sick as a
dog for like 2 weeks. And then my father took one on a business trip to Phoenix, I think from Chicago, and he got what they call adult onset juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, which is one in 200,000. You don't get it as an adult. And he's been on steroids for life. Like almost killed him. I saved his life. I hadn't heard from him, threw him over my shoulder, found him on the couch with buckets of vomit, piss and diarrhoea all
around him dying. And I ran him to the hospital and they had like specialists flying all over. So like, that's unfortunately you learn the hard way. But you know, I thought like, well, why would I take a thing that's supposed to stop me from getting sick with the flu if it made me sick for two weeks? That's stupid. That's just. Steve, when, when, when did you start questioning things? Let me ask that differently. When did you start getting red pulled?
Just in general on the whole world, you mean? It was really a buddy of mine. It was kind of, well, yeah, I was a little bit. I was reading books like the Spider's Web. I was getting into like the US funding Iran and Iraq through like farm grain credits through the Banco de National Italia and selling them cluster bombs through Brazil. Like so I knew the governments were doing dodgy crap, but it was really post 911. A friend of mine sent me one of those.
I can't remember even what they're called, but you know, the early ones, loose change or whatever, one of these documentaries like dude, check this out. You know, I was like, God, what the hell? So I think 911 really started red Pilling me and then having my own son. And then I started looking into vaccines because of my own and my father's experience. I was like, man, do I want to be stickiness in my child? So that got me down the health road.
And then I started getting into, I met some Merovingians online. They were talking about the occult and esoteric stuff. And I'm a Virgo, so I just like things told straight up. Like I don't just tell me straight up how it's going. And they kept saying, no, we can tell you, we can tell you all we want. You won't understand because you don't have the whole knowledge. And as a Virgo, I got upset. You know, I'm like, fuck you, I'll figure it out and I'll tell
you how to say. So that dove me down into the occult and I got into the jazzuits, the Black Nobility and the money got, you know, ba ba ba ba ba ba around the spectrum. So I just, I think I just got thirsty for knowledge once I figured out, hang on, things aren't what we think they are. And as a kid I just hated school like I hated authority. So I've always been anti authority. So I, I think it was just in me. I don't know. I don't, I couldn't say it. It was a series of things.
Do you feel happier having, let's say, more enlightened view of the world? I do because I, I don't worry at first. It's terrible when you get red pilled because you worry too much about everything. It's really horrible. And then your next reaction of mine was, was I've got to tell everybody about all of this right away, you know, and then you start to lose friends and
family. They all think you're crazy because they haven't done the work in the research and they don't know what you're talking about. So you get isolated, but then later once you get the agendas and what's going on now, I don't freak out about the day to day playbook that freaks everyone else out. You know, you can see whatever the, the flavour of the week is. Oh, Fukushima or the Trump's going to do this or they're
bombing. You know, I know what the long play is. So I don't have to sit and worry about what's terrible today in the news. I, I know, I know where it's all going. So in one, in the long run, I think it's liberating. I think most people who have been red pilled, which is funny because actually the red shift, you actually want the blue pill.
Everything is opposite. As we were talking about this talk, they've even told you that the red pill is good and the blue pill is bad when actually the blue shift in the toroidal field is good. So, but yeah, anyone who's ever woken up real hardcore, it's, they know, like you start to lose friends, family, jobs, you know, it's, it's not easy, but I'm happier now. I'm happier now. I ask that I ask that because of the idiom ignorance is bliss.
There is that, until you then ignorantly inject your child with four vaccines and they have autism in their brains burning and they have a helmet on running their head in the wall. How blissful is that? There comes a time where there's a consequence for your ignorance. I would say ignorance is immediate bliss, but it's pretty freaking dangerous in the long run in this day and age to be ignorant. Yeah, you mentioned 911. This was a very big event, probably OK.
I would say second to COVID. I think the COVID event was probably the biggest in living memory, but 911 probably the second biggest. Yeah. At least, at least you see. It right away or how long did it take till you were like how long you know how many years went by till you were like, what up? Well this is what I was going to say so it didn't red pull me. I just thought that it really was a bunch of Muslims who hated America who flew planes into the
buildings right. Because I bought into the propaganda and I didn't actually think for more than 5 minutes about it, but just quickly can you remember what you were doing on the day? Oh, I can tell you for certain. I was on tour with my band from Denmark in America and we were, we, we were in Chicago and we had gigs. The the whole reason we went is because we were going to get a Rolling Stones review at either Owen's Garage or the Knitting Factory, right under New York Twin Towers.
So we did AUS tour, a small one in the Northeast, and I woke up to take a pee and all my band was sitting around this TV watching the first plane at it, which it didn't, but the first explosion had happened. And then I came out of the bathroom. They were all freaking out and I'm like, what, what is what are you watching on TV? What movie is that? They're like, no, a plane at the
World Trade Centre, a bomb. And then as we were all talking, the second one allegedly hit or whatever happened, you know, And I was like, holy shit. And then they came down and we lost the, we couldn't go to New York because those clubs were in Ground Zero under rubble. So we got no Rolling Stone review. We got the whole, it, it turned out to be the end. We couldn't ship our gear back to Europe because they said, Oh no, you can't ship anything on
aeroplanes anymore. You have to put them on freight. So we, we couldn't fly our gear to Europe for all of our England showcases. So it pretty much ruined like my career. So I remember very well, but also we were in Chicago, so we're looking up at the Sears Tower, John Hancock building now it's the Willis Tower. We're all looking up. Like, is a plane going to smash into that? Like, we thought the whole country was under attack because nobody knew, you know?
And then it ruined the rest of the tour because everyone was totally sad. Like, it really psychologically freaked. You know, I was excited to bring all these guys from Denmark to, like, you. Where do you see America? And then everywhere we are, everyone was just totally bummed out, like it destroyed the whole psyche of the nation flat, you know, straight out psychological destruction. What? Do you think happened on the day? And, and oh, oh, I there, I definitely think there were no
planes. I think Judy Woods was on it. I think directed weapons and internal bombs. They had those M8 switches from those Israeli students on the 84th floor or whatever, like if there's pictures of them with fuse switch boxes lined all around their office. So they blew it up. And I think they probably used directed energy weapons. I know that a plane was seen going at the Pentagon and then it was many witnesses said it lifted up and let and took off and then there was an explosion.
I don't I know nothing crashed in Shanksville because the hole they said it made in the ground. Planes don't make holes in the ground when they crash. Planes are made out of tinfoil. They, you know, like a bird breaks the, the nose of a plane. But on the USGS Geological Survey, that hole was in that ground from like pictures back in the 80s. So it's like, yeah, it was a massive psychological operation. Then the gematria numerology and everything is Jesuit all the
way. It's got Jesuit fingerprints all over. So what what I think was crazy is they had the balls to pull that off in broad daylight. I would have done it at night. So no, you know what I mean? Just so there was, it would have been a lot easier to to do that at night, but they wanted people in the building. Plus most people don't know 80% of the World Trade Centres were empty. Most of it was unrented and they needed to tear them down anyway because there was an asbestos.
So it's going to be like a whatever, hundreds of million renovation project. And I know a lot of people got sick who worked at Ground Zero. I think it was all the asbestos in the air from the fallout. Yeah. What do you think happened? What you didn't mention is that there was a third building that everybody just seems to forget about that just random building. Seven, there were actually two more. There was also five and six, there were actually 5 buildings, 2 planes, all that.
And then that building, 7/1, the woman on BBC said it had already collapsed like 20 minutes. It's like behind her while she's doing the newscast saying the Solomon building has collapsed and it's sitting behind her and you're like, well that's funny. It's standing up right behind you. So it's like it seems to add knowledge.
What really happened, though, is it brought in the entire War on Terror, the invasion of seven countries in the Middle East, as General Wesley Clark talked about on Democracy Today. And it brought about the Patriot Act, you know, so and then all of a sudden the Homeland Security Act and all this crap. So what it really did is brought in like a totalitarian worldwide control. And these wars, they're not met. You can't. How do you win the War on
Terror? You know, there's like that Australian comedian Steve Hughes, you know, he's like, how do you, how do you beat terror? And it's, it's the same with all these revolutionaries like the Jesuits do Black Lives Matter, gay pride, the woke thing, the transgender, They're not meant to be one. That's not what the plan is. What you do is you start all these micro revolutions that don't they don't get anywhere, but each group starts to
identify with each other. They're, you know, they're like, well, now Black Lives Matter and the rainbow people and the, the feminism and the day all together. They're just collecting balls and balls of dust into a giant dirt ball so that you have one totalitarian group. They're not meant to be 1. They're meant to keep corralling everyone into one ball through different revolutions that never get one. And those people won't win. They think, oh, and we get in charge, you know?
But what was his name? G Edward Gryphon had him on. Remember the Russian who defected to Canada? Yuri. Yuri, Yuri He. Said the same. He's like, The thing is, once they get in charge, you're the first ones they take out because you're dangerous. When you're when you understand that you got duped, you know, like these revolutionaries are the first ones that are going to go because they they know they're going to be angry that they got that they didn't get
their way in the end. After all, you know that is the plan. But do you think the world is a better place post COVID? It's better than it was during Convid, but it's, you know, I, I think The thing is we're not seeing it because what they're doing, it's always behind the scene. Transhumanism's moving in. Cash is getting taken away. Cash stations are going down. Stores are slowly putting in more self checkout, more card, less cash. There's locks turning up on
doors. There's And they've got you looking at, oh, Trump is now fighting with Netanyahu. And, you know, you're looking at the flavour of the day and not looking at what's really going on behind the scenes. More 5G towers going up so that the control grid is tightening still. I think out of the public eye, people are getting it like they're, you know, people are more aware of transhumanism now, but.
They don't understand like the control grid is tightening like it's it's going up all around us. COVID did that with the ID passports you know. But Steve, what really bugs me, what really greets me the wrong way, is it felt like there was this amazing awakening during the COVID era, right? I felt like there were people networking and just starting to think alike. Now under the Trump administration, everybody's gone
back to how it was. They've just forgotten everything and suddenly Trump can say we're going to bring in digital ID and I'll go, yeah, yes, that's that's a great idea. Or they'll talk about digital, digital currency and they'll welcome it. Or they'll talk about mass surveillance via Starlink and they'll welcome it. It's like they just keep, I don't get it. I just don't understand what's. Happening. Yeah. I don't know. What do you think? I, I think it's because Trump's
a salesman. You know, there's no Trump and Biden are both Jesuits school. They're both Jesuits like they're Trumps and Mason and his kids are Jesuits school. But you need, you need to, you first got to keep the people divided. So they like Trump because he people hate him and they like Biden because the other the right hates Biden, the left hates Trump. So now the right and left hate each other, but then they need a salesman for each group, you know?
So yeah, when Biden's in there and it's all electric ID, everyone's like, now Trump's in there. Yeah, it's going to stop the terrorists and the foreigners and those moose lams. You know, it was like, Oh yeah, let's put it in. It's how they sell it to you. These dudes are salesman. So, you know, I can sell you a piece of dog shit if I tell you it's fertiliser, you know what I mean? It's AI just have to make you change your view on the worth of dog shit.
And I mean, I mean, adding to that, right? I remember just a few years ago, all of those supposed Trump supporters. And I'm not anti Trump and I'm not anti Biden, right? I just want to make that clear because I do like some things that that Trump says and does. I'm just, it's not binary. It's not one or zero, but but a lot of those people who were, you know, who are Trump supporters, but he wasn't the president yet. You know, they were completely anti the vaccines and all that.
And now suddenly RFK is in and they're kind of kicking the can down the road saying, well, you know, what we actually want is maybe good trials. You know, we want better trials and vaccines. They're not, they're not making outright statements anymore. They're just kind of, you know, pushing, pushing things. They they, they're adjusting the boundaries the whole time now because, because I think that they are being ideologically driven rather than principled
of, of principle driven. Yeah, I mean, and they all like every politician, if you just go back, every country, I don't care who left, right, whatever, whatever they say to get elected, they do the opposite. They never do it, but they can't not do all of it. Like you'd, you'd know right away the guy was a liar and a dictator if he didn't do something good. That's why I think, like you say, Trump does some good things and Biden did some.
You know, they all do some good things because no one's going to believe someone who does no good things. Otherwise, you've just got like, Pol Pot, you know, even Hitler, he made the Volkswagen, like, the Germans love them, man. You know what I mean? They're like, yeah, cool enough because he was doing some good things. But that's how they do it. They do like 60% good things, but none of them keep their word. And Trump said he was the godfather of warp speed.
He, he still takes credit that he was the reason they rushed the vaccines in the 1st place. And now you got, oh, maybe we should be a little safer. You're like, that's the guy who did it in the United States. Nobody. And like you're saying now his supporters, it's like, I don't know, man. It's like people have a memory about two months old, you know what I mean? But I think because Huxley said that, remember Brave New World, Huxley or seeing Orwell 1984, you just got Big Brother and it
doesn't care. It just steps on you and watches you and like they'll come take you away. Huxley's brave new world was different. He said we inundate you with so much information every day. Like you and I were talking about off screen like Fukushima, BP, oil spill. You know what? Did anyone remember any of this? Remember all those immigrants were coming up to the border on Trump's first election there. There was like an army of immigrants. Were they ever? They never even turned up.
I don't think they were real. But that's what I think happens is we get they just throw like 20,000 things at us a day to worry about, you know this story and an aeroplane crashed into a helicopter that we just forget like 4 years ago because there's. So that's what Huxley was saying. There'll be so much stuff to worry about that you can't care about anyone cause anymore. And then you'll take the SOMA, the drugs are, you know, you'll you just want to numb yourself comfortably numb.
You know, I think that. And then, adding to the Trump appeal, you have Elon Musk. Right, with his fake space programme and his cars that blow up and have graveyards full like, and there's not even enough lithium and cobalt to even make the batteries for enough cars for Britain, let alone the world. Yeah, and then his grandfather got kicked out of Canada for being the head of the, you know, the IT was really transhumanism. But technocracy back then. Yeah. I mean, there's just so much.
But again, doesn't it? Look, it's a movie, right? Like I say, actors. So the the judges, the the doctors wear the white coats, the judge wears the black robe, the police wear the the hat and the badge and all that. These guys wear suits and the other guy wears like the billionaire techno. Cool. These are actors just running scripts every day by the
numbers. If you ever talk to Zachary K Hubbard or follow Gematria Effect News is all scripted by the numbers and it keeps you involved in the play and the drama of the day by day, like I'm saying, so you don't just get away from it and go figure out, OK, I'm going to Start learning equity and equity, trust and natural law and I'm going to start looking into injections. And you know, you don't start to liberate yourself. They just want you worried every because when you're worried and
scared you, you are inactive. We all know that. We know the psychology between fear you're paralysed and people who are paralysed don't do anything for themselves. Steve, do you think Elon Musk, other than being put in that position that he is, is actually very smart? Why would I? Was going to ask you the same. Because like I'm I'm sitting around as a musician, I've got gigs, I've got my son here every other week, I'm making films, I'm doing a few interviews here and there.
I don't have time to take a dump. How is this guy running like 8? How many companies does he have? 548 huge ones, right? How do you how do you run 8 companies or five? I don't even know what he's got. And of course he doesn't know anything about any of it because half of it's fake. I I personally think he's a front man. I can't prove that. But do you know anyone with the energy and time to run like 7 multinational company? And how is he like one of the
richest front men in the world? From what? Electric and the government department? What? And a government department was a doge or something. Well, funny enough, the Doge, when you go back to ancient Venice, the Doge was the guy in charge of all of the Black Nobility. He was like, not the Pope, but he was like the head mafia family and who who he was the mafia boss, you know, Tony Soprano or whatever, you know, that's what the Doge was.
He was the guy in charge of all the Venetian Black Nobility. So it's kind of funny that they're calling Elon Musk the Doge. And the reason the Black Nobility came about is they they killed the Doge and they said, screw you, we're all going to run our own business. Like they basically killed Tony Soprano, you know what I mean? So it's really funny they're calling him that just like we know the MAGA Trump runs on MAGA, Make America Great Again.
That's the name of the sixth high, the highest degree of the Satanic church, the highest Satanic priest is called the MAGA. So they they spit it in your face, the doge, the MAGA, they're just telling you like straight up who's running things. But that's conspiracy theory. And you're like, yeah, but it's, you can look it up. It's like real, you know, so
it's kind of funny. I. I don't know if you saw the theatre between South Africa's president and Trump a few weeks ago in the White House. I mean, it made World News because Trump was going on about, you know, farm attacks and all that. And by the way, it is real, right? There are farm attacks. 1 white farmer is killed every single week in South Africa, right? That is real. While everybody's talking about the the farm attacks and the
genocide and all that. So South Africa's president in that conversation made one sentence which which everybody seemed to have missed and he something that he never says and is completely out of character and he said we can only approach these issues with better technology. There's your transhumanism. There it is, right there, right the taxi. And we and, and keep in mind that we don't have Starlink in this country. And now the government says we're getting stalling.
Wow, right. So yeah, see, it's, it's what Hegelian dielectric, right? Dialectic problem, reaction solution. They they roll out some shit and then say, oh, look, we need this, we need that's how they do it all the time. I I didn't hear any of that. It's good you caught that, but are people aware of that or is
it only you who caught that or? Very few people have picked up on it. But what's also interesting is Catherine Fitz says that Elon Musk is is he's an operation and and it's a daughter surveillance operation. I would wholeheartedly agree with that. You know, like I said, I can't prove it, but he's clearly a front. And when you know his family, you know his grandfather. Like it's technocracy. It's totally technocracy, which is transhumanism.
Call it what you want, I don't care, but an electronic surveillance control grid, that's going to be run. The other thing that everyone's not seeing is the the Black Nobility, the Jesuits work for the Roman Catholic Church, who works for the Black Nobility, right? That's who's really running things. That's how it goes. You've had plenty of guests talking about this. The thing they don't have is what they used to have is there was no separation of church and
state. The government's government and the religion is the religion. What they want is that together, they want that back again because the church is the control mechanism behind where this is all going. That's where your taxes all go. They're going to Switzerland through the Vatican. It's not going to the Jays, as
we've talked about. So what they need to do is they're, if you noticed a lot of the people aligned with Trump or even a lot of the world leaders, do you notice they're far right. Now all of a sudden the new trend is like everyone's so sick of the woke left that they're going to far right Christian. They're that. But see, no one understands the reason they even built up all these far left radical revolutions. Like I said, it's to trigger
everyone to that's the problem. And the reaction is everyone's sick of that shit. And that now the solution is we're going to go far right with all these religious Christian, it's going to go Christian. So that's also another agenda rolling out is they want control. They want church and state together again, not separate anymore, and that's been a long term goal for them. There's an interesting segue there.
Now I'll just quickly want to go back to you mentioned the JS, the JS. Now I just, I just need to bring this up because since the October 7th thing, there's been this massive increase, at least from what I can tell in, in just just unadulterated hatred for Jews. Now, I think that's a bad place to be. I don't think just hating somebody for, for who they are
is, is a, is a good idea. You know, don't hate me simply because I'm white or don't hate me simply because I'm South African. It's the, it's my, it's my actual behaviour that you might want to hate and that's OK. So, but the point, the point is this is that you're going to get pushed back because you know that they are Jews in positions of power in central banks and in Hollywood and in education. And so people are going to are going to say, but Steve, look at
that. Yeah, but you had Francis, who'd you have talking about the Black Nobility not long ago. Yes, well, I've I've had a number. What's her name? I can't remember. What's her name? Never mind. But anyway, you see the Congress, it's congressmen and Congress members in America who who are running the Department of Health, Department of Education department. The Jews aren't really in power positions there. They're in management positions, but they don't make the
decisions. You know that there are 7080 departments in the government. Those are run by congressmen. They aren't Jews. They're all Roman Catholics. You could go all the way down. Tupper F Saucy talked about this and rulers of evil. The plenty of books show who's who. What's his name? I'm blanking on everyone but the committee of 300 Doctor John Coleman. They they they're every group
has bad apples. So they that's what they always like to do. They put some Jews in mid level management positions, put them in in the news. You never hear the names though of anyone. You know the same thing like propaganda, right? You see like a Mao poster or change or you see these propaganda posters. Everyone knows it is. You can see it. You know, there's like the sunburst behind the guy and he's looking up.
Then you see all these cartoons of these evil Jews with the hook nose and the Curry. You know, they look like this Dick dastardly. Do you think if the Jews were in charge that there would be those cartoons all over? You can't see that's propaganda. The Jews are putting out cartoons of themselves with hook noses and you know, no, the people who are running the stuff, you don't hear about them ever. You hear about the Jews. You can you can say anything you want about the Jews.
You know, you got what's his name? Green. And go to any channel on YouTube. Bitch you they're they're bashing Jews left and right and centre. Well, if the Jews ran the place, don't you think that's the videos that YouTube would be banning? Francis leader. Sorry. Yes. Yeah, exactly. She's great. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, she's awesome. So, yeah, there are bad people. There's now The thing is, like people don't know the Jesuits started Israel and only one out of 10 Zionists are Jewish.
No one wants to talk about that. Israel's not a Jewish state. It's a Zionist state. And as we've talked about before, that's the goal is the Vatican wants the Middle East for the Black Nobility. They don't like Jews and they don't like Arabs. That's why I, I said this at an Acapulco a year and a half ago. I said it on your show. I said it on Alpha Cast. I said you watch, they're going to select Trump again, just like they did Grover Cleveland.
They're going to give him a second term with one between and then he's going to suddenly pull out on Israel because I'm a man of the people. And sure enough, he's fighting, you know, Benjamin Milkowski or whatever his real name is, you know, like now he's having a fight with it. And I told people, I said that's the whole point. And now it's. But is that? Is that not theatre? This is all theatre. Yeah, because this is the whole point.
And even like, you know, Patrick Henningsen, who's on UK column in 21st Century Wire now rockets are getting into Israel from the, you know, from Iran and Yemen. They've, they just took out like 2US fighter jets wars, like billion dollar infrastructure. So now we know that the Middle East, you know, the Arabs and Muslim world can strike Israel. And that's what I've been telling people for two years.
That's the point. They, they want mutual annihilation so they can come in and clean up the mess. Eventually they will call the US and the West, you know, Britain, the West will come back in once the damage, just like they're going to do with Palestine, the genocide's already done. And then like when it's pretty much you can't turn back and it's then they're going to be, oh, we need to put an end to
this. And and I think Trump even said, right, they're just going to bulldoze it all out and make condos and shit because you're like, what the hell, man? I can't believe people follow this guy. Like it's just ludicrous. Ludicrous. You, you said earlier that once you see the game plan, you know, your anxiety levels go down. Steve, what is that game plan? Well, that's what I'm saying. The game plan is the the Roman Catholic Church used to have total control of the world.
They were with the state and that's that's a whole nother show, the gulfs and the Ghibbelines and who sided with the Vatican and who sided with the with the kings and the Pope, the kings and the Dukes and all that. That is the plan. And they want top down vertical control. So what we have right now is horizontal control. These, they're basically like the Pharaohs, but that's another story. They don't come from Egypt either. But the what's going on right now is it's like mob wars.
Every country's president is. They're related to these Black Nobility families. Yeah, everyone knows like, Oh yeah, Trump's related to Charlemagne and King John the 2nd, and so is Biden and Clinton. There hasn't been one who isn't even Obama. And it's every country you go to. They're related. So, but they're like mob bosses. So what they want is they kind of want control of each country.
You know, the president Select says, I want to run this part of the patch, but the Black Nobility say, no, We want it back to the old days where there's, you know, Papa, the Pope gives the orders down. And of course, he's taking orders from the grey Pope, Peppi Orsini. And then you've got the black Pope of the Jesuits, probably still above the white Pope, but that's what they want. They want to go back to vertical rule. They, they're having fights over who runs the New world order.
The New World order is old. It's been around for 1000 years. Like this is nothing new. We're already in it. But they, they're having fights over vertical versus horizontal control. You know, they want one king. King of the world is what they want. Not a bunch of kings. You know, different kings. You said they're having fights. Now there's something
interesting. OK, so David Aiku unlike, but he seems to hold his view that everything is just as well oiled, machine controlled right from the top. You suggesting that there are internal fights? There's competition happening? Yeah, I'm suggesting there used to be a well oiled machine running straight from the top and that top was the Black Nobility through the Vatican, through the Holy Roman, appointed kings, Queens, Dukes, you know, later presidents, prime ministers.
It's not happening anymore. They want it back like it's gotten a little bit out of control. So yeah, I'm suggesting they're having like mob wars. That said. You know, when the Gambini's are fighting whoever's over like Miami, you know, they still listen to the top boss in New York. They you know, they're they'll fight with any within the mob, but the but the the head of the mob runs it. And I'm suggesting that's what's going on here is they're all
salivating at the chops. You know, they're, they're, I, I think they're having little turf wars personally. That's what I see. Which could be our saving grace. They could take themselves down actually, just through sheer greed and stupidity. But what you're saying possibly means that the simulation model that David speaks about isn't isn't correct. I I agree with him that it is still run very tightly controlled from the like the pyramid thing you're talking about from the Council of 13.
Yeah, well, that's the Black Nobility. Like, yeah, I totally agree that there is the Black Nobility Council of 13 at the top. And really it's actually four families or five at the top of that. But you 5 people can't run the world. I think that's part of the big push for the technocracy. And now the AI, right. Like how quick is AI taking off, man? I think you and I talked about AI like literally two or three years ago. And we're like, that's 10 years off.
No, man, everyone's using it now. Like look how quick that came on. It was literally like 2 years. It's like dominating everything. My opinion is that I don't think it will ever take over. I don't think it has the ability to because I think it'll they'll always be humans in control of it. Yeah, so you don't see like a Terminator Skynet situation. Well, I I don't think there's nukes for it to to leash.
They can't unleash that we've got BFPS like we said, I won't say it on UK column a big frigging bombs. I don't see it working like that. Here's the problem I see with AI because it's. It's people willingly hang on. What I'm saying is people willingly are giving up their own sovereignty. It's not AI taking it from them, it's people choosing to give up sovereignty. Right. And and here's the problem I see with AI is I see it as a A2
generational soft kill. Like AI is doing everyone's thinking forum that's doing everyone's just like Google, but now it's doing it for you and it's smarter and it's faster. It can literally write you a song in like half a second. Like it's crazy. What that does eventually is it puts your brain in atrophy. You need to use your brain for
it to keep working. Otherwise it turns to Jelly, like those fat people in wall E floating around on those, you know what the levitating thing, all they do is eat. So after 2, two generations where people don't have to use their brain, the human brain is literally going to atrophy. And 'cause people are going to be born stupid, raised stupid and that and that way, then you're not going to be able to.
If the AI does and two generations come up with a way to control us through the technic grid that they're putting up. Yeah, the humans are putting it up. If the AI gets control, there won't be anyone left smart enough to figure out how to stop it. There won't be John Connor, You know what I mean? There's going to be a bunch of wallies floating around on their levitating platforms. That's the danger I see is it's going to make people stupid.
Steve, a problem that always arises when when we have these kinds of conversations is that people will say, yeah, but you guys are so negative or so pessimistic. Do you see a light at the end of the tunnel or is that light a train coming towards? Us. Oh yeah, that was a great cracker song. I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Someone please tell me it's not a train. I see it like this because we still have loopholes with equity
and equity trust. There are legal loopholes that they're still using in the maritime system. We're under the law system. I think there are going to be pockets of people, OK, and I think there who are going to have a great, more, a way better time than we've been having. And I think there's going to be people screwed. And you could see that in Brave New World. If you remember the Did you, did you read Brave New World or ever see the movie on it? That's Hoxley.
Yeah, I they actually did a really dodgy, like early 80s movie version of it. I can recommend watching it again. It's long. It's like 2 1/2 hours. But in the Brave New World, you had the people living in the cities, you know, the alphas, betas, gammas, and then they go on vacation to see the wild men. And that was the humans they just left alone, living out in the wild, who didn't want to be part of the system.
You had the same thing in 1984. Winston and all them, they're under the they're under the system of Big Brother. But down in the city, the proletariats are still out drinking in bars in London and singing. They drop a few bombs in there once in a while just to show him who's boss. But they're pretty much left to their devices. And I see the world. I think those books are both very right.
I think there's going to be people making little collectives here and there that are going to be amazing. And I don't think the government's going to come after you with drones and blow up you and your 40 farmer bodies, You know what I mean? Like, they might light the place on fire like they do with floods, you know, like they're doing with these California fires, laser beam wars.
But I don't think they're just going to like come around and round up everyone who's not in because it is voluntary. Like you're saying, if you want to be in the slave system, it's because you you're volunteering and the people are taking action to get out of it. So yeah, I think, I think there's going to be hell on earth just like there is always, there's going to be hell on earth for some people who go along with this shit and don't wake up.
And there's going to be heaven on earth, I think, for those who are waking up and taking action. I think another great parallel other than say, Brave New World, is actually Game of Thrones. In many ways, it's a, it's, it is a metaphor for, I don't know if you know the story, but the, the, the plot basically is that you have this world that is fighting, you know, for freedom. Meanwhile, there's an even bigger threat that's coming from
the north. Winter is coming and everybody ignores it. I mean, it's probably no accident that series was written like that. They tell you what's going on, you know? Yeah. So that's the question. What is winter? What what's the metaphor for winter is coming? Is it the grand solar minimum? Maybe winter literally is coming. Are we in for a grand solar minimum and food shortages? And, you know, like 18112 was called 1800 and frozen to death.
They the summer never came and they didn't, they all starve to death. Like, is that what's going on? But that's part of the whole red pull experience is that you realise how inverted everything is. Yeah, and I think Game of Thrones is a good that's, you know, the Game of Thrones term. That's like what I'm talking about with the mob wars. It is that like the little kings and they're all fighting each other for like who's going to control, you know, the main city or you know what?
I can't remember Game of Thrones was years ago, but yeah, they're like each having a fight and allegiances and alliances and backstabbing and betrayal. I think the elites are just like that. I think Game of Thrones is real. It's like that by design, you know, because these are Satanists and Luciferians and occultists. That's what you do. You invert reality. You take the the reality of the realm, God's realm, or if you don't believe in God, whatever. You take all that is good and
then turn evil into good. You know, war is peace, freedom is slavery. You know, that's what we're well said. You know, all that double think, doublespeak, That's what you do. You invert everything so no one knows what's up, what's down, what's right, what's wrong. And that's where you get all this fighting. You got people who are awake to it all sound like freaking crazies to people who are totally asleep because they don't even have a reference from where, where you're coming from,
you know? So how are you? How are you going to get along? You're, you're 2, you're 2 human beings totally flipped upside down from each other. And that's how they keep it on purpose. That's why the media, I mean, the media, isn't it like 7 corporate or isn't it like 7 corporations?
And probably they're all owned at the top by like BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street. So of course the media is not going to tell you anything because they work for their corporate overlords, their corporations, you know what I mean? I think it's shocking that we're still allowed to sit around and have these kind of talks that if people want something positive, they aren't in total control or this shit would have been shut down long ago.
Man, you and I would have got rounded up and sent off to the camps like long ago if they had total control where they they want it to be like that. So if anyone wants some saving grace, this talk right here and ones like it are proof that they don't run the roost totally yet. You know, I so maybe there I might have disagreed with David Icke. Now they might be letting us have these talks to collect data against us for trials later. You know, I don't know, like if
I'll see you in a jumpsuit. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, Steve, I'm not entirely certain that everybody can play 5G chess, A55D chess. Yeah. I mean, I don't think I don't. I also think that a lot of of these elites are just also quite stupid. Yeah, they do do some dumb stuff. I agree with you. There's no such thing as 5D chess anyway. That's stupid. That's just totally dumb.
We live in a three year old. But that kind of that kind of bound I think from Q. That now that's 3D chess, yeah. Trump and Q in the Q in attack, that's the Rothschilds. Q in attack, the queen, QQ clearance security, you know, energy clearance security. That's that's all that that was
the 3D chess was telling you. They're playing 5D chess against the black hats and the white hats and, you know, and HC, you're like, you're telling me I can't, nobody can figure out what HC is, Hillary Clinton. But it makes it, but it makes general conversation impossible. I was chatting to somebody the other day and I said, have you forgotten warp speed? Right. And they go yes but but warp speed was a strategy against the FEMA camps.
I mean, that's the problem is if you want to believe something bad enough, you can make up anything. And Q is the Q psyop. I call it. It's a master at that. It's a total master at spinning re. First of all, it's it's again, it's a story. Who are these white hats and these black hats? Well, where do they live? What's their names and addresses? You've got it's like the War on Terror. It's the black hats. You're like, OK, show me their names. Show me where they live.
Let's go get them. Let's arrest them, round them up, you know, not kill them. Let's go throw them in gaol. Try them. Well, you can't. It's a it's a, it's a fake entity without a face and a name and addresses. I'll tell you, it's got addresses is the Black Nobility. I can tell you where the Jesuit headquarters are. I can tell you where they all live. So it's another one of these abstract things. It is.
It sounds good though, right? Like, oh, and again, it makes you inactive because you're like, oh, the what is the message of Q? Don't do anything. The white hats have this all sorted. We've got it right. How long? When did Q come out? Like that was Trump's first. What's that like 12 years ago? I can't. When did Q come out? 2017. Trust the plan, Steve. Trust the plan. Sure. I mean, you're welcome to, but you know what I mean? I know people who still are.
I know people, they're actually family members, so I'm not going to say their name here, but I know people who believed in Q figured out it was BS during convid and are now back on queue again. I'm like, what? I, I can't believe it. You know, like, how did you, they got off, they got off queue and they got addicted to it again because they're great at it. They, you know, you could say anything of yeah.
Oh, but the reason that's, that is because, you know, you could just make up any nonsense and, and if you want to believe it, you'll believe it. Of course, if you want to believe something, that's what sales is all about. That's what liars do in sociopaths and con men. They know what you want, so they'll say anything to to make you do what they want, right? That's the whole point. All I need to do is know what you really want.
And people want everything to be OK, even though it's not really all going OK, you know, under the under the thing. But it is for the most like, my life's great. Isn't your life great? I'm having a good time. I actually think that South Africa is a good place to be for the technocratic looming future. Yeah. The actual fact I think Africa in general is a good continent to be. Yeah, totally.
I would say Micronesia, anywhere like that, anywhere that's still got a little backwards, let's call it, or still in the 50s or you know, so anyone who's not like got a Starbucks on every 3rd corner. Yeah, I totally agree, man. I think we're just out in the rural anywhere, no matter what country, and I totally agree, but. In actual fact, in in actual fact, I would argue that the Amish are are ahead. Of had since the beginning. We used to all laugh at them, you know, like they're looking
great. Now you're like, Jesus, man, they they look great. I keep thinking of that movie. What was the Kingpin the bowling movie? Did you ever see that movie with Bill Murray? And oh, go watch Kingpin with Bill Murray and Woody Harrelson. It's hilarious. Oh, you got to watch it, man. I won't tell you what he adds to Gross for Auk column, but there's a scene in there that's just amazing. But yeah, they're looking great. And I think, like I said, in the future, we can still use technology.
You know, I don't. I'm not against technology at all. I think AI is awesome. Yeah, I think AI is great if you use it, if you still use your brain. I think what people, what I'm going to do, I won't speak for anyone. I'm going to use AI as little as I can to make sure that I still have to use my nut. You know what I mean? Because I don't want my nut going Moshi, You know, I already
do that. Enough with beard and some whiskey and so. I think the whole thing with technology and and AI and all that, these are also tools that can be used for good and so you just have to apply some discernment. Well, it's kind of funny. Do you know the philosopher Alan Watts? Remember him in the 60s and 70s, he was a big influence on me. He did a transhuman. He was totally for transhumanism. I wouldn't say for it.
He just wasn't against it. And he did a lecture where he said, look, now this lecture was in like 1970 or 71, so we didn't really have computers. I think we might have had like IBM had a thing the size of my house, you know, like with big knobs. But what he was saying was totally true. He said like every he said humans used to be telekinetic psychic. We could talk to, you know, we, we used to be able to communicate through the ether. And he said we lost that and all
technology up to that. 1971 was us trying to get back together to each other as one and even predicted the Internet. And he said there will come a time when movies won't be any good anymore because you're going to really want to feel that girl dancing there. And pretty soon you're going to want to dance with that girl. And they're going to make a technology where she's, you can actually hold her, but then you're going to want to feel her.
And he said then they're going to make a technology, you know, and he called it all. He said, we're just going to keep building this stuff until we're everything connected together. And he said you won't be able to do anything in secret. There won't be lying because everything will be known and spied on and watched. And he said this was just all this technology is a natural extension of the human body coming out, you know, and that was his. I'm not saying that's my
opinion, but that was his. He was just saying that's going to how it's going to go. And sure enough, we got all these 3D holograms now, right? And these Google glasses and what's this neural link shit? I don't know if that even works. Do you think neural link's real or you know these I could be? I'm looking at the time. Give me a nugget of wisdom. A nugget of wisdom. Live in the now.
Be happy if if don't sit around on the Internet worrying about today's story and what crashed into what and what's going to happen tomorrow and worrying about what happened to you yesterday. Love, forgive, but don't forget if you're having a good time now, that's all there is, is the now. And don't live in fear if you get in fear from those people sitting around in front of your computer afraid it's pointless. Go outside, hug a tree, take your kid out, play some, go fishing.
Just go enjoy life. It's it is what it is. That that's my wisdom. It is what it is, like it or not. How's that? Steve, how can I follow you? Space Busters and YouTube bit shoot Odyssey Rumble vigilante.tv. If you need to write me [email protected] please don't find me on Facebook and start riddling me.
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