James Denningpole, I don't know how many times I'm saying this, but thank you again for joining me in the trenches. It's an absolute pleasure, there's no one I would be happier to be with alongside me fighting the enemy. Other than your wife. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but I think you'd probably be good at, you come from South Africa, you'd probably be good at dealing with, with vermin creatures, you know, like rats and stuff because there's, there's all sorts of stuff out there, isn't there? We are a lot more streetwise I think on average, but that's by design. Oh, I mean, when you live in a country where you can't go on a long car journey without thinking about making plans, if you break down, how are you
going to survive? It's, it's, I mean, that's it, isn't it? It's not just will the will the a, a man come in in three hours or five hours? No, it's will I survive? Yes, and and is my gun loaded? Is my gun loaded? Can you carry guns? Yes. Ah, now you've you know what? You're suddenly selling South Africa to me. I'd like to. I cannot I cannot confirm nor deny whether or not I have firearms.
I. Think if your life depends on it. I will say I've got a hunting rifle that I will say because I go hunting as you do also. What by the way, where are you as a as a as a fellow Christian? Where are you on killing people, I mean. Well, let's just dive into it. In in self defence I mean, because it's not clear to me what what God's position is on this, but what if it's? Not killed. No, no, no, no. I think that's a
misinterpretation. So if you're coming from a, from a, from a Christian or biblical perspective, I think the correct interpretation is thou shalt not murder. There's a difference because remember, wars are also killing. But there were many wars in biblical times that were, shall we say, ordained by God. God is absolutely rooting for the children of Israel in a lot of these these conflicts and he
is killing lots of enemies. So you're right, I see that and David being being a bit of a killer himself. I mean, if somebody comes into your home and tries to kill your family and you shoot them or you stab them to death or whatever, that is a self defence. That is not that is not murder because it's not a a pre emptive behaviour. It is a reactive behaviour. And I said, what is sane person? What is the the word the Greek word that I don't use for you
see? This is God. No, this is the problem, isn't it? I've, I've, I often say that Christianity is the the biggest, widest and deepest of all the rabbit holes because once you start getting interested in it. Thank you. Once you start getting in it from a from a sort of there's a certain certain kind of Christian I've I've the reason I'm talking about this is because it because it's I'm writing a piece about this at the moment.
It's bugging me. This is all to do with a podcast I did with recently with your friend and mine, William Fink. He's he's so interesting. But it seems to me that there are roughly two types of, well, lots of different categories of Christian. But I'd say that there's the trust, the plan variety and the trust. The plan is the kind that takes it on trust that what his pastor or his minister or his Catholic priest or his Orthodox priest has told him and he's brought up belief.
That is absolutely the correct version. And the you cannot deviate from that. It's just everything they know has been taught is true and right, and that is what they believe, and they ain't going to change. And then there's those of us who who started exploring Christianity from an awake perspective and we go, what? Hang on a second. There are all these different denominations. The Catholics, by the way, don't don't consider themselves to be
a denomination at all. They consider themselves to be the church, the mother church, and they think everyone else is basically a heretic and they're going to, we're all going to burn in hell. So, so there's that. So you get all these different denominations with wildly different views on all sorts of things. For example, what is the correct number of books to have in the Bible? And that's quite a big deal,
isn't it? That's different churches have different views on how many books what books are are are correct. What books are are non canonical or or apocryphal. The churches have different positions on on the nature of of the Virgin Mary. Is she really the queen of heaven or is that is, is that just a kind of borrowing from Babylonian, Sumerian mythology and and so on and and and so forth. Where am I, where am I going with this?
I think that if you are curious, you have to approach Christianity with a, with a, with a spirit of adventurousness, light, skepticism, respect obviously for the different traditions, but at the same time an awareness that someone, somewhere, in fact quite a lot of people have got their stuff badly wrong. Yes, I'll add to what you're saying that it's also about approaching it from, let's say a realistic or a historical
perspective. Because the problem I have found, I don't know if you had this issue growing up, like in church, they become so caught up in what appears to be sort of sensational mysticism, you know, and they don't look at what really actually happened biblically. Like, let's go back 1000 BC. Did you know, what did the region look like? What were the people doing? I think what one of my favorite insights of his.
Obviously I'm biased here, but I like the idea that the children of Israel ended up in what became known as Christendom. And it makes absolute sense to me, absolute sense it it makes emotional sense. It makes intellectual sense. It it puzzles me that you get a certain kind of a good example of this is CS Lewis. CS Lewis is often held up to be the the model Christian. He's a fantastic Christian
apologist. We love him etcetera, but when reading his appalling book on the Psalms, it really is one of his more dismal books. And it's clear that CS Lewis, this ardent Christian, nevertheless looks at the Psalms as this as this thing that belongs to the people he considers to be the Jews. That it that it the Old Testament thing is not so much a Christian thing. That is not at all not at all my perspective on the Psalms. And when I when I when I read the psalmist talking, oh,
blessed are the people. What is it? I'm just learning this one about the blessed are the people whose God is the Lord Jehovah. Blessed are the folk that he hath chosen to him to be his inheritance. That's Psalm 33. It's, it's fantastic. And I listen to those those lines or recite them, and I think that's me. That is, I am one of the descendants of the children of Israel. I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it, when you think about just setting aside the Bible for a moment.
Historically, we know, for example, that apparently every person in England is of white extraction anyway, is is descended from can claim descendants from Edward the third. Because if you go back far, far enough in history, we're, we're all kind of, we all go to the same what we all, we, I suppose we all go back to Adam and Eve in the end. But you think about how long ago the, the children of Israel were around.
We're talking what, a couple of 1000 years BC and we've even longer and and the diaspora the the the periods were in in exile and stuff. Where did they all end up? Is nobody curious about this? There was a remarkable lack of curiosity among Christians. Yes, that's the point I was making about modern church generally being shallow. It doesn't look at the historicity of Christianity. Now this is important because you don't have to be a Christian
to have this discussion. Well, of course, this discussion has really been loaded by the the issue of Israel. What is Israel? Well. That is, that is a fundamental issue. It's huge. It's taken of everything. Yeah, yes. How many Zionist Christians are? There are more Zionist Christians than there are Jewish Zionists. I believe it's not. Jews. Jews. Yeah, there are more Zionist Christians than there are Jews. Yeah, well, that's a fantastic psyop win for the Jews, for all,
for the. Zionists and that's and that's a big part of the history of Christianity is that it's been it's been psyopped into be becoming Judeo Christianity. Sorry, Co opt Co opted. It's, well, it also is a psyop, I suppose. Yeah, yeah. Because the the idea that Christianity is somehow linked to do to Judaism is only about the last 150 years anyway. Juda Schofield and Derby and the Oxford University promoting this idea, and it's taken hold amazingly.
It's even worse than that. It's even worse than that. I the vibe I get from certainly the Zion, those are the Zionist Christian persuasion is that they feel inferior to Jews. They, it's like, yeah, the, the Jews are the rock stars of, of, of, of, of the world because they are literally God's chosen people, whereas we are mere Christians and we're not fit to blah, blah, blah. You, you get that, don't you?
Which I find extraordinary. I mean, I view, I mean, maybe I was maybe when I was younger, when I, when I was more of a snob and I used to think like I was born to rule and stuff and I had that, that education and etcetera. But I have to say that since my awakening, I've become, I mean, obviously I still get fox hunting, but I've become a man of the people. I, I, I love everybody. I do. I, I, I, I, Jews, Christians, Muslims, or whatever. We're all.
We're all. Gods. Well, it's not about that, though. You don't have to add that disclaimer, that's the thing. No, it's not. It's not even the disclaimer. What I'm what I'm saying is, I'm putting in context my absolute abhorrence of the notion that the Jews should be considered to be special, because they ain't. They're not. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, within the biblical context, they're not special.
Well, well, it of course, it depends on the translation of the word Jew and, and, and, and whether you think that's the same as the, as the, as the Hebrews and the children of Israel. And, and you get this, you get this complicated mix, don't you, where you've got what the Bible says, but then what the different translations of the Bible says, particularly of, of, of, of, of keyword words.
And then you get the stuff that's sort of extra biblical where you have to look at other historians, Josephus or whatever, Tacitus, what or what even the Assyrian historians tell us about the movements of peoples in those, those those
far off off times. And you and you then sort of form a kind of meta analysis based on, yeah, on the one hand the Bible, on the other hand, all the other sorts sources, archaeology, it's and then you try and form an intelligent view, but you can't just go, well, my particular favoured translation of the Bible says this. And my my preferred interpretation is this. A very important conversation actually is the the the preservation of Christendom. Why?
Because it is intricately linked to the West. And it it also makes sense when you see it in terms of of race, which is a very, very difficult topic for a lot of, a lot of people. I really don't want to offend people. I just think people need to get their priorities sorted and their priority, everyone's priority, not just kind of shock jocks like you and me should be the truth that that Jamie Franklin makes this point in his
in, in his rather good new book. And I've made it a few times as well, that what are the things we should believe in what what should be our our guiding principles? I think they're truth, goodness and beauty. We're naturally drawn to their expressions of God. And I think we are naturally drawn to God. So if you're not being drawn to the truth, you should ask yourself, well, hang on a second, am I doing it right? And the answer is, by the way, no, you're not.
You should be able to say these things without without fear. The thing that puzzles me about atheists. OK, well, well, how do you explain how we got here? And they say, well, I I don't, I've never thought about it. I don't want to think about The Big Bang one second. Everything exploded out of nothing. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. And is expanding into Infinity and also into itself. Yeah, that makes sense.
Do you know what one of things I'm really glad about since since going down the rabbit hole, I'm so glad that I no longer have to take science, science seriously because what, what, what did you, what did you read at university or did you not go? I did, but I failed. Oh, nice one mate. No, that's I'm a. Varsity dropout I've. Risked.
I've made nothing of my life. I was really lucky with my, with my tutor, who he wasn't, he wasn't professor because he wasn't interested in the kind of the, the, the fake titles of the academic system. But he, he, he was very good. He taught me how to think and, and although I was an anomie in those days, nevertheless, I, I did feel that my mind was, was honed and I'm eternally his name, Peter Conrad and I'm, I'm eternally grateful of him for, for, for, for doing that.
But anyway, what so I did, I did an English degree and I remember in the years afterwards, there was all this this pressure put on one by by the prevailing culture to feel bad about having read an art subject that that it was somehow worth it. You was a bit like the Zionist Christians feel towards the Jews that they're better. One was encouraged culturally, subtly to think that the scientists, they're the thing.
Oh, the scientists, Newton Boyle, Hook, the Royal Society, the experts, they know, they know the science and and they know the truth. And wrapped up in this was the idea that of course, well, things like Darwin was the, was maybe the greatest, greatest ever Englishman because he replaced all that God nonsense with the truth, which was we, we, we, we crawled out of the primordial slime and we
gradually evolved. And we're, we're, we're related to the apes and I'm, I'm so, and, and the idea that one has to try to understand planetary motion, that, that, that, that sometimes we're near and sometimes we're far. And we, we, we, we describe these weird, elliptical, impossible things that you, that nobody understands. And now I rise, you're not meant to understand them because they're not true. You're just meant to go, Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. And you just said that and it
must be true. It's all rubbish. Anyone who's been in this area for a while becomes familiar with MK Ultra, the, the, the Cias brainwashing program and we all go, well, that's terrible. Imagine what it's like being one of those MK Ultra victims and waiting for your trigger word to, to, to send you off to shoot, to attempt to shoot, to be a Patsy, shooting JFK or whatever. But actually, everyone pretty much has been a victim of this
kind of programming. We've been given these information and these these buzzwords like Winston Churchill and you're supposed to go, yeah. Bulldog, cigar, Tommy Gun. He was the. He was the hero of World War 2 and Hitler was the Great Satan. Yeah, yeah, and, and, and Darwin genius overturned all that nonsense. But Galileo, Galileo, the hero who took on the primitive belief system of the Catholic, the superstitions of the Catholic
Church and, and it's all lies. It's all just, or it's a very, very heavily tweaked in a particular direction. Everything we're taught is just just programming. I went to a party the other day. This this an English garden party was fantastic. Was, there was a, there was a marquee and it was loads and loads of drinks, whatever drink you wanted and, and lovely little canapes and people I wanted to see and lots of Parkland where you could park
your car. And, and it was a dry day because we're, we're having a, a geoengineered drought at the moment by the, by the powers that be. And rather sadly, my wife was unable to come with me, which meant that I could behave really, really badly. Normally, normally I'd be talking about, I'd be, I'd be keeping my conversation quite, quite careful in case I got
rumbled. But this time I've just every conversation I was just going in and, and sort of red Pilling everybody and talking about the nonsense. But you're right, fun though it is to to go around talking about, look, look up, look at the what are those lines in the sky? Why do they disperse like that? Are you sure that's what meant to happen? And have you noticed this wind? When did you ever remember wind like this? When did you ever remember being this dry? This stuff?
It's it's fun doing it, but you realize that you're just a basically a gibbering loon to most of them. They don't. They don't get it. Yes, but have you noticed though who tends to be happier? Oh, we're, we're living. We're living in the truth, man. We're. Yeah, it's great. It's great discovering how awful the world it really is. I mean, it is. But it's also great discovering how you can not be defeated. I, I think absolutely,
absolutely. I tell you what, do you know what's been really, really in my thoughts more than anything recently? This is the time of the year when the first batch of swallows ha or they, they fly. So the weekend just gone was when the swallows that make their nest every year in the shed opposite the bathroom where
I clean my teeth in the morning. So I'm cleaning my teeth and I look out of the window and I see that the, the, the mating pair of swallows get more and more frantic on their, on their entrances and exits because they've got these, these little greedy little bastards with their huge beaks to feed. And they're really, they're, they're, they're effectively grown-ups and they should be feeding themselves by now.
And then the, the, you see them hopping out onto the kind we, we, we've blocked off the entrance to this, to this shed with a sort of some picket fencing.
And you, they, they sometimes sit on there for a while waiting to sort of, sort of stretching their wings, waiting to have a go. And then they they might make a little foray to the to, to A, to a roof and then back And then, and then the next day you see them swooping and diving and and I reckon that in the last over the last weekend, the, the swallow population has quadrupled because the breeding pairs now their offspring are out up in the air.
And with luck, we're going to get maybe well, suddenly one more brood. I've seen 2/3 broods in the season. Well, they're leaving it quite late for the for the migration S again, but the joy of seeing that matters so much more than what Keir Starmer is is doing. And you know, he's doing annoying things and you just got to kind of laugh it off and focus on what matters. Yeah, Bob Moore and makes a great comment. He says approach everything as if it's satire.
And he is so right. Because it is it. It absolutely is. I, I, I, the, the, the narratives that we're given, like the one about have you been following the Lucy Connolly thing? The Lucy Connolly is she or isn't she?
There's this story which is appearing in the papers about this woman called Lucy Connolly. And Lucy Connolly, according to the story of being sold to us, tweeted out something about something inflammatory following the the southern southern middle S is it was it southern some the Taylor Swift dance class girls that were allegedly murdered by an an immigrant immigrant terrorist? I I see I don't believe any of
these stories. And allegedly this woman was, was, was put in prison because of an inflammatory tweet. And we're being invited to believe that this is a terrible injustice. If it if, if this is what actually happened and if she's, if she's in prison, etcetera, etcetera. Yes, all these stories should be treated as SATA, but also they should be be you should always add, add if it really happened because I don't trust any, anything I, I see in the papers anything.
We're also manipulated. Well, that's what Kid Knightley from Off Guardian says. If you read something in the mainstream media, or even alternative media to some to a large degree these days, treat it as by default as if it's false. Yeah. Or at the very least, ask yourself what how it's been slanted, what agenda it's trying to push, which is which is normally normally fairly obvious. And my friend Nick Hudson also makes a great comment that's
sort of overlapping. He says any big event that happens anyway is either fabricated or entirely false. That's, that's the sort of version of, I can't remember, it's Jellingpoll's first law or Jellingpoll's second law, but it goes something like the more you know about something, the less likely it is that it actually happened. So moon landings, we all know about the moon landings didn't happen. Ken lone lone gunman killing Kennedy. Nah, did not happen.
Titanic hit by an iceberg. Nah, Nah. All these, all these stories. I mean the charge of the Light Brigade. I wonder, wonder what actually happened with the charge of the Light Brigade. Maybe, maybe. No, nobody died, no horses were killed. I don't know. Why is everything fabricated? Oh, that's easy. That's really easy because the world is run and always has been run by very, very, very small number of people.
We could, we could, we could take them out anytime because there's, there's gazillions of us, billions of us, certainly, and there's only what, few thousand of them, the best. So we could take them out easy, but we don't what? Why not? Because we don't know. Most people don't know that the world is run by title, that they, they, they might sort of been lightly infer it, but they don't really follow through. They've never never thought about it deeply. Do you buy?
Do you buy the argument that the world's run by Jews? No, I'm, I'm. Do you really want to know? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. I'm, I'm, I'm very much of the, the Jesse Sabota school. Jesse Sabota. Some people don't, Some people think that she's not. She's just makes it all up. I think that she has a a worryingly detailed knowledge of the satanic system, which to me accords with what we know about Ephesians, the the rulers of the darkness of this world, you know, spiritual wickedness in
high places. The idea that the world is, is, has been the, the, the, the Satan is the God of this world and various of his kind of junior princelings have got these patches, the, the Prince of Persia and, and, and whatever they have the different and in the same way, the, the, the followers of, of Satan, the human, the human followers, the people who practice what's known as the old, the old religion.
In other words, the, the, the, the, the same religious practices that the Canaanites engaged in that the Phoenicians engaged in with child sacrifice and so on. You know that the the gods had different names, but they had the same, they've had same yearnings for human flesh and particularly children, children being sacrificed. They feed on that because I suppose killing an innocent child is an affront to God and affronting God is what they
really want to do all the time. So I think per Jesse Sabota's various podcasts about this, that different parts of the world have been divided into different jurisdictions and they're all 04. They're all devil worshippers, Satanists follows the old religion. But some of them kind of have the, the, the Jew badge. Some of them have the, the Mason Freemason badge. Some of them have the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Mormons. In other words, you've got representatives of, of Satanism
in all the different religions. The Catholic Church, obviously it's got, it's got fairly healthy representation. I mean, I, I would say that the people who call themselves Jews probably punch above their weight in terms of the, the patches that they control. For example, the entertainment industry and the movie industry. That's quite a bit that's quite a big deal. The banking industry as well is pretty, is pretty heavily infiltrated in that school.
But like, no, I don't think that in so far as the word Jews has any meaning anyway, because it's quite, I mean, Talmudic Judaism is, is, is quite a modern religion actually, which I think we, I think we, we, we can probably agree doesn't really have an awful lot to do with the, with the Old Testament. I mean, even though they, they, they, the, the number of Jews who are actually interested in the Torah, I think is, is, is not as great as, as I think Zionist Christians might
imagine. Do you see what I'm saying here? So you've, you've got different criminal gangs. I don't, I don't, I think it's too simplistic to, to blame the Jews. And also I feel very uncomfortable given that. I mean, I used to, I've always found that my Jewish friends have punched above their weight in terms of being funny and erudite and stuff. I mean, you could you could argue that's due to generations of breeding where they're selected for intelligence and
and, and wit and stuff. But what always makes me uncomfortable when people say it's the Jews. And I think, well, hang on a second, do you mean everyone in this world is Jewish? Well, you don't you? Yeah, sure. You mean families like the Rothschilds, obviously, But most ordinary Jews, They're just, they're just as victims of this as much of the rest of us. Well, that's, that's exactly what I was asking, because I do think that it is a little bit of a trope.
You know, that it's the Jews thing. It's the same thing as saying safe and effective because it's very vague and it doesn't really mean anything. Can I also say that I don't like to spend too much time protesting too much, that I don't think it's the Jews because I think that that that's, that's that it is set itself as another chap. The the the moment you start the whole debate is so fraught that you can't even it.
It's a minefield where you can't even say I don't think it's totally the Jews without them being accused of of being naive, victim of a psyop, dishonest or whatever. If I thought it was the Jews, I would say, I mean even if it meant being being killed. But my research is so far suggest to me that no, there was it, it is also the Vatican. It is also the the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons.
And it is definitely the Freemasons and it is probably the old Italian bloodline, papal bloodline families. So that's my, that's my answer. That's the best my best answer at the moment. Well, I mean, I look at it also like this when, when movements like Black Lives Matter and the LGBTQ movement and all that blame whites for everything that's wrong in the world, I see it as the same thing. When you blame Jews for everything that's wrong in the
world. What you're effectively doing is promoting them to superhero status, that they have this ability to control everything and everyone. And it it pushes you into a perpetual mindset of victimhood. I do you know what? I kind of don't agree with that argument. I, I, I see it, I see it, I see it in, in chats where supposedly awake people tell me you really couldn't, shouldn't credit the Illuminati.
Let's call them the Illuminati or, or the, the cabal, whoever runs the world, you really shouldn't credit them with so much intelligence and, and, and power and etcetera. And I'm going hang on a second. What we shouldn't give credit to people who've been running the world for the last five or 6000 years. You're. Yeah. But hold on, hold on. Yeah, but hold on. This, this. There's an overlap there saying white people or Jews. You're looking at one characteristic.
A group of globalists or a cabal can be all sorts of different people. Do you follow?
Yeah, I do. I, I, I'm not sure it's a, it's a particularly useful distinction, particularly not in the context of, I mean, if you take William Fink's theories seriously, then it does, it does kind of mean, I mean, I, I think one has to be modest about this, but it does kind of mean that Christendom is kind of special because it is descended from actually people who are really were God's chosen people, Which is why it's such a very, very tricky thing.
Because on the one hand, I like the idea that, hey, yeah, I'm one of the descendants of the 12 tribes. At the same time, I'm thinking, hang on a second. That means that I'm, I'm the descendant of one of those tribes that God was enjoining to wipe out all the other tribes. And because of my upbringing. And your upbringing will be the same. We've kind of been taught to be, to feel a bit uncomfortable about that, haven't we? I mean. Well, what you're trying to say
is, yeah. So what you're trying to say is that the the the argument that Fink makes is that the Israelites were white, and so therefore the chosen people are white. Exactly. Also in some of my other researches, Nimrod, You know about Nimrod. Nimrod was the great hunter who who who sort of masterminded the Tower of Babel. I think Nimrod may have been black, and he was. He was a baddie. He was a baddie.
Now, I don't know whether if I were, if I were, if I were black, I'd feel good about that or bad. I mean, on the one hand, I'd be thinking he was a bad ass. And he was a really good hunter and he had a really good gang of hunters. And they did lots of, yeah, they got rid of all the a lot of the wild beasts which were predating on people at the time. And he was pretty ambitious and cool. And Elgar, Elgar wrote one of his most beautiful pieces of music.
And which is another thing, by the way, sorry, Skitter skittering around. What is Elgar? Edward Elgar doing? Writing music in praise of one of the most evil people in the Bible. I was at school in Morven for 10 years of my life. We were taught to Revere Elgar. It's one of the great things, the fact that the Enigma Variations were written in the shape of the Morven hills, I think.
And and you're thinking, OK, so you wrote some nice, nice tunes, some jolly patriotic tunes, pomp and circumstance and stuff. And then what? What's he doing? What? Why was he into Nimrod? And then you start thinking, is everyone who gets to be that famous, are they in the game on some? How do they all? Have they all paid homage in some way to the old gods? Have they all made the pact? It's a bit of a Segway, but what has been your biggest red pull?
Well, if I'm honest, OK, so my first red pill was the climate changes bollocks red pill I spent. Yeah, I mean, that was that was. But you see a bit like the normies who've gone back to thinking everything's back to normal after after COVID, I despite the bombshell discovering that the entire COVID is just a. Placeholder. The word COVID is just a placeholder. That's all it is. Yeah, it is. It is.
Yeah, I, I But then you if you use words like pandemic, it just makes you sound like a it's like what? People use the word sheeple. And I'm thinking no, no, don't use the word sheeple. It really doesn't it, it's not witty. It's not.
Anyway, so I discovered that the entire field of ecology, environmentalism, sustainability, everything to do with that was complete ballots, which which actually, when you think about it, is quite a big deal because that's about half the world's economy and and about 1/3 of the world's academic post. So that was a big deal. But I thought that's also the basis of sustainable development. It's the basic. It is. It is the new religion actually. So. So, yeah.
So I just, I learned all this and then I kind of said to myself, yeah, OK, well, I've I've rumbled this massive, massive scam. But obviously all, all the other things that I haven't investigated, they're all right to the all these other, other branches of science, they're legitimate evolution. Obviously that's what happened.
So I didn't have to have my second awakening in the form of the I feel, I feel embarrassed about this because I because I now realize that Trump is an Apollo worshipping Luciferian, bad actor, Zionist, etcetera. But this stolen election of what was it 2020, the stolen the stolen election.
It wasn't so much that I could see the election being stolen by an incontinent Charles Snitz stroking the guy whose son was probably being in the pay of China and and had it some extraordinarily disgusting stuff on his laptop and the guy who was so unpopular that that that his mind was wouldn't allow on the campaign trail. It wasn't so much that that this guy was allowed was was allowed to win the presidential election become so-called leader of the free world.
What shocked and appalled me was to see all my media colleagues, the guys who I thought would be in the trenches with you and me, saying, yeah, and the reason Biden won is because he's statesmanlike and popular. And whatever lies they made-up to explain why this guy, the the continent loser, won rather than the popular guy. I said yeah, one second.
I became a journalist in order to find out the truth because I'm, I'm a nosy, but I'm just, I want to know what's, how the world really works and what's going on. And I'd never make stuff up for an article because I, I thought that's, that was, that was like a bad thing. That's, that's not what journalists do or not, not in the stories anyway. They're, they're not in the movies. They're kind of heroes and they're truth seekers and stuff. And I, I was that naive.
I, I really thought that was my job too. And when I saw everyone else. All these guys I've had drinks with over the years and trusted not doing what I thought was their job. I thought, hold on a second, if, if, if my ideas about journalism aren't true and the media aren't true, what else do I need to question? And I gradually realized that I need to question everything. So it was, that's, that's how it worked. I, I think you've got to credit these people.
They, they do a pretty good job, don't they? I mean, they work really hard to do. They think of every angle, they think of every, every detail. And I kind of, I kind of have a grudging respect for them, even though of course they're going to, sadly, they're going to burn in hell or freeze in hell, depending on what you think the deal is about, about hell. They're, they're, they're not going to, they're, they're, they're, they're their time in
the sun is, is short lived. There's a very good song.
Now I'm going to, I'm going to learn my next Psalm is going to be Psalm 73 where it talks about this, where the, where the, where the narrator of the Psalm says, look, I'm really, I know you're, I know you're great God, but I'm kind of a bit upset at the moment, but I'm looking at these really, really bad people and they're getting away with murder and they're, they're, they're rich and they're, they're successful and everything's going well for them.
And, and then later on in the Psalm, he goes, well, how is it then? Then I, I went into the House of the Lord and, and sought further advice and I discovered what's going to happen to these people. And it ain't going to be fun. So we should be really gentle. We should be praying for these people every day that they may see the error of their ways. You know what is the moral of the story? Put thou thy trust in the Lord and be doing good. Dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
Delight thou in the Lord, and he shall give thee thy heart's desire. I think that's all you. That's all you can do. Look, I, I don't have the the man skills to go off off grid and, and get a kind of small holding and, and and milk goats every day. I apart from anything else, my family wouldn't buy it. They just they because they're not, they're not into this kind of thing. I think that Bob is right. You've got to treat all the news of satire and and you've got to
assume that everything is a lie. I'm not sure what we can do as individuals other than opt out of this lie system that they've created to manipulate us and do what you and I do, which is to spread the word and, and both forms of word that the word with a capital W because I think that the more of us that pray to God, the more it this was this is another of my, my recent insights. I've been reading this book published in in the 1880s. I think it's called Earth's
earliest ages. And it talks about the setup and it asks it answers the questions, a few questions that I've always wondered about like, OK, well, how do the the foot, how do the rebel angels fit into the time scheme? What was what was happening before Adam and Eve came on, came on board? I think what I've what I've worked out is that the very that, as John tells us, Satan is that the God of this world? I mean, he wasn't, he was a Prince. He was that that's that's why he
fell. He was, he was, he was probably God's favorite and if and his arrogance, which is undoing, which is why pride is considered to be the worst of the sins because it's the, it's, it's Satan's, it's Satan's sin. And he's, he's, he's, he's been, he's good at his game and he's, he's amassed these, this, this army of, of, of, of demons and devils and, and, and, and, and obviously human supporters. And they're really, really doing pretty well.
And although we know God wins in the end, because how could he not? Because he created everything at the same time, the struggle now is real. And the bad guys are doing pretty well. And the, the forces of light and goodness, like if you're led by the the Archangel Mike Michael, who's the commander of, of, of God's God's heavenly host, they, they need our, they need our help in the form of prayers. It does make a difference. And I think one has to take this stuff, stuff seriously.
So, yeah. So we need to preach the word with a capital W, but also the word with a, with a, with a, a lower case W, which is the truth about the true nature of the world. I think the more people understand, the better equipped they'll be to formulate their own personal strategy for dealing with this craziness. Because we've all got different skills to bring to the party, haven't we? I mean, I'm quite good at talking drivel for an hour on a podcast.
Other others maybe, it maybe may have different. Yeah, exactly. You too, mate. I mean, it's God has given us this. Imagine. Yes. And I'm going to give to James and Germ the ability to talk rubbish entertainingly for a whole hour or more. And they're, they're going to spread my word. Yeah, we've all got different skills and that. Does that make sense? It makes perfect sense.
I think that that one of the the terms I I I dislike is is is contrarian as as if one picks a position just because it's in opposition to what everyone else thinks. And that's never been I, I always go for what I think is true, even if I've been wrong in the past. But I think that that's, that's got to be the mission to, to cleave to the truth and adjust your position according to to what once you weighed it on the scales.
If you find that that that actually there's counter evidence which which leads you in a different direction, well then then look at that. But it's how for me, for example, a big red poll for me in the the COVID era is how wrong Ben Shapiro actually is when he says facts don't care about your feelings. And I would argue that facts don't really matter. That's what that's being a huge awakening for me, how important narratives and storytelling actually are. And they are the foundation of
humanity, not facts or evidence. Well, I suppose if you, if you, if you. It depends on how you define fact. If, if, if, if, if you, if you define a fact as an embodiment of, of, of truth, then obviously facts do matter. But I think I, I know the sense you're, you're talking about facts that facts as a kind of as a manipulative device to insert into a narrative to make it more credible. Yeah, I discovered, by the way, I did, I did discover recently an issue that I'm not sure
about. I've been reading this very interesting book on artifacts taken from around the world and brought back to museums in, in the, in the great capital cities of Europe. So I was reading an essay about the Nefertiti bust in, in the the Noyers Noyers museum in, in, in Berlin. You must have seen it. It's, it's, it's possibly the most beautiful bust ever made.
Nefertiti was Akhenaten's wife and Akhenaten was the rebel, was the rebel pharaoh who who decided that everything was all, all previous religious practice was, was was now going to be altered and that everyone's going to worship the sun gods. And he's sometimes credited with being the first monotheistic world leader and that and somebody write an opera about him. Akhenaten.
Anyway, is it right that that cultural artifacts should be lifted from from places like Egypt and shipped off to countries where ordinary Egyptians can no longer afford the travel or the visas and stuff? That's interesting. Well, it's interesting because there's all sorts of complications like it was it was removed from it was removed from Egypt in the I think the 19 tens 1920s and the word demands for its repatriation.
And guess who resisted, who fell in love with it and didn't, didn't want it sent back, it being Germany. Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so you could say this is the bus that Hitler refused to return to its rightful, rightful owners.
But then you've got further, further complications because it turns out that the only reason that this bus was rescued was because changing irrigation practices in Egypt at the the turn of the 19th century, being in the 20th century, meant that large areas were going to be flooded. These areas where all these, these tombs and artifacts were, these, these tombs and artifacts were about to be destroyed.
So there was a rush of archaeologists saying, look, we've got to, we've got to have a concerted international effort and we need funding, massive fundings to go in there. So in other words, a lot of this stuff would never have been revealed had it not been for these, these rich entrepreneurs
funding these expeditions. Oh, and by the way, here's one of the, one of the main funders of the German exhibition was Jewish. So you've got this, these, you've got these different strands of, of on the one hand, this stuff will still be underground and would never have been discovered. On the other hand, it, it, it, it, it comes from their country. So you see what I mean? It's, it's very, very complicated and interesting and I quite like that. I quite like something where I'm
not totally sure what I think. And just like that, James disappeared. If James doesn't come back, then I will bring this to a close. All right, Well, James just vanished. I suspect his connection dropped, but since we were coming in for a landing anyway, I will recommend following James Dillingpole the dilling pod. It's great. Listen and follow James on XI, forget what he's handled is, but look him up James Dillingpole and hopefully I will get James back in the near future.
With that in mind, my name is Jeremy. This is Jim Warfare, the battle of ideas.
