Well, hello, good afternoon. You've been left with me for the final slot, so I hope I'm going to be able to keep you awake. And the first thing I'll say is I don't have any slides or videos or any of this stuff. I'm going to talk. And the other thing is that. When we do events, it's quite interesting because quite often the speakers don't don't easily know what they're going to talk about and.
Patrick Henderson will tell you this, that time goes on and you know you got to do something and you know you got to do something. And then and then all of a sudden maybe an idea comes into your head and it, it just sort of grows. And then speakers have their segments. And what we've often found is surprisingly, these sort of segments that come out of nowhere then fit together. And I, I felt a bit like this for the Hope event because Charles has been chasing us for
ages. What are we going to talk about? And I couldn't really get a grip of it. And then I'm going to say to you, I woke up last night at 3:00 for reasons we won't go into. And into my head came what I covered for the news, which was talking about what was happening with the churches in Cornwall. And that's a little story in some ways, but actually the implications, the implications are huge. So life can be very unexpected. And I'm going to say to you,
well, ask a question. Am I amongst friends this afternoon? OK, I'm, I'm looking for those Incognito reporters that I'm sure there, but it's going to be recorded anyway. So I've made a decision. The time is right to do this with you guys. I have talked about some of this with an audience at Alternative View, which was Ian Crane's masterpiece of getting people
together. So it's possible some of you might have heard some of what I'm going to talk about because I'm going to talk about my journey through into the UK column. But it it's it's pretty poignant and I'm very happy that when we get into to questions, you can really challenge me or get stuck into me.
So if I go back, in case anybody doesn't know, I spent 21 years in the military in the Navy. Navy's always been very good friends with the Army. If there's any trouble, it's always the Army and the Navy that are there, usually with the Royal Marines. And then we wait to see whether the RAF is going to appear. Anybody from the RAF here? No, see, there we are. I, I, I, I could. I'm going to be hacked to pieces for that comment when it comes out on a video. We, we love you, really, but
you're just not. Yeah, there was a Spitfire went over earlier in the afternoon. Did anybody see it? We saw it. Absolutely fantastic. OK, so I did my 21 years and I have to say I really enjoyed 98% of it. There is, in my opinion, nothing like being at sea. I really enjoyed that and something I always enjoyed was rough weather. Maybe I was a bit strange on that. I did get seasick in the beginning but that sort of wears
off after a while. But if you are at sea in a big storm, it puts you in your place pretty quickly because you start to realise how minuscule the ship is and how minuscule you are. And, and I found that this is actually a really interesting thing to experience because when it's mega rough Force 10 was the most I got into up off the north of of Scotland. And I'm pleased to say we did survive. But you start to wonder.
And so it's, it's an event which makes you think about the world and also your place in the world and really how significant you are. But anyway, the military time was really good. But in the late, sorry, in the, in the late 80s and into the 90s, I started to realise that things in the military were changing. I detected a sort of change in the, what's the word, the philosophy that I didn't particularly like. And I thought it was going to get worse. I felt that I'd had the best out of it.
And so there's no doubt about this because there's still error and misinformation floating around the Internet. I was an anti submarine warfare officer. I was not a submariner. I did not drive. Or operate on board submarines, although I did a couple of trips on board nuclear submarines, so my job. Was to track and find those nasty Russian nuclear submarines that the BBC so terrified of. That's what I did.
But I wasn't a submariner. And you have to stress that because anybody gets a hint who's a submariner, you're dead, man, because you got to be the real thing. You mustn't claim something you're not. So I just want to set that out. So the military, I did my bit. I thoroughly enjoyed it. But I'd lived through a system that I believed in. And if you're in the military, in the Navy, every morning at 8:00, if you're the duty person,
you're up saluting the flag. And that represents the royal family and the country, and you are. In a system which is very much, very much controlled by the governing system and you believe in that system and you also believe that you are there to keep people safe and you can have a good time at the same same time. I didn't get near any of the trouble. I got down to the Falklands 2 days after the Armistice had
been signed. So on the way down we were expecting to fight like the other units were. But in the event, by the time I got down there, the fighting was over and we had six months of patrolling the Falkland Islands, which is a unique experience with none of the excitement, having to listen to all the stories of the people who'd been through the exciting times. I lost four, I can't say friends, I'll say 3 close acquaintances and two others
that that I joined up with. They died in the Falklands so that impacted on me. But I didn't go through the real thing. Charles has been through the real thing. But I didn't. So I got to consider myself very lucky when when I came out of the Navy, I initially tried to get into a normal job. Inverted comments. I didn't really have much luck
finding a job. I did some psychometric tests with a couple of companies and invariably the person came back smiling because the psychometric test said that I was best suited to the military. So at least the tests were accurate. But you know, that was that was a bit of fun. And so eventually with another ex Navy guy we set up a little consultancy. Interesting. It was energy management. This is the start of all the stuff to do about energy coming through, which I wasn't aware of.
And we were reasonably successful. We paid the bills, which is the main thing. And then later I joined a slightly bigger company and that's when I began to discover the trouble in Plymouth and large amounts of government money were coming through the city. They were not being used properly. They were being misappropriated. And I was looking at fraud and corruption. And then when I attempted to expose that, the backlash was
phenomenal. So it was late night phone calls, knocks on the front door in the middle of the night, used hypodermic needles in the flower baskets outside my home. My family, some of them received, I'll say passive aggressive, threatening emails. My business partner was warned off that if I didn't shut my mouth he he would lose contracts. So I I went from living in this very organised world in the military to coming into civilian life and suddenly my world exploded.
And in standing up and talking and publishing some things about what was happening. The beauty of the Internet was that other people came in contact with me and they started to say what you are seeing happening in Plymouth, the the corporate bullying, the fraud and the corruption that's happening in, it's happening in Sheffield, it's happening in Leeds, it's happening in in Glasgow.
And so I was beginning to interact with other people and information was coming in to me about these amazing things happening in other cities. Very often where people were suffering because they they, they'd lost businesses or they'd been bullied or they'd been falsely accused. And it was, it was a real journey and an eye opener into the fact that my country was absolutely not as I thought it
was. And I was particularly upset with the police because in my head, while I'd been doing my bit in the military, it was clear to me that the police had not been doing their bit cleaning up the criminality in this country in this period. And if, if I'll say we're very end of the 90s or just in to 2000s.
I also started to experience some unusual things in that I'd be looking at one of the local newspapers and I'd see an article and it was like that article sort of jumped off the page and I'd read it and then I'd reread it and I'd think that's a bit weird. One of the key ones was I discovered that the Bishop of Exeter was sharing a meeting which was about elected regional assemblies and I was very surprised that a religious leader would be actually running
a highly political meeting. And when I challenged his PA, she didn't like me at all and I didn't get much information about why he was doing it. So I started to get these little glimpses of strange things going on. Another little one was a very, very weird article where they've been looking at security in some of the more impoverished areas in Plymouth and they've been talking about putting gates in to stop people moving through alleyways at the back of areas
of flats. And in the article it said that they they now got the ability aside from CCTV to also be listening, to have microphones so that they could also listen at the same time. And the, the there was a sentence in this article that said the things being narrated from the view of the Plymouth City Council. It said, we, we need to give people, we need to let people know that we're listening to them. And I just thought, what bizarre little comment because what did
that mean? It was almost like we need to get people to understand that what they're doing is being listened to. So these things started to crop up. And, and then one morning I was at home in my kitchen and the, I think it was the mobile phone rang first. And it was a guy I hadn't spoken to for at least a couple of years. And he said, oh, hello, Brian, don't really know why I'm calling you, but I thought you needed to know this.
And he gave me a little package of information about wrongdoing and, and I said, why did you call me? And he said, why? I don't really know, but you're the only person I could think of to give this information to. So I, I decided to call you. So I took the information we had a. A quick exchange, polite exchange and then I put the phone down, bit mystified, and the next thing it rang again and it was another person. Hello Brian, how are you this morning?
I don't really know why I'm calling but I thought you needed to know X. Well, then the mobile phone rang and then the landline went and then the I took 11 calls back to back with 11 different people calling me one morning to tell me about weird things going on, criminality, people being bullied, stuff happening with people's children. And by the time the last one finished, I thought, that's pretty weird, what's what's going on? So my life then continued with learning about the fraud and
corruption. I had a little website where we were starting to publish bits and pieces and, and I'd got some friends around me in Plymouth who were also starting to realise that there was something underwater in, in the country. And so at least I could chat to them. But Even so, these very weird little things, you could almost call them coincidences happened. And invariably when they did, I got information. Well, one morning, when was
this? I'm going to guess and say probably about 2002, possibly 2003. So three years before the start of the UK column, I was at home in my little office space that I got at home and I was, I was working on a report and the phone rang and it was a friend of mine called Paul. And he's, he, he was an architect. He was working down in Plymouth in Cornwall. And he, he said to me straight away, hello Brian, what are you doing today? And I said, I got some reports to write Paul.
And he said no, you're not, you're coming to see me. And I said, Paul, I got to do these reports. No, you're not. You're going to come and see me Paul. I got to do these reports. He said, alright, then when can you come and see me? And I said, well, I got a free day next week. I could come and see you next week. And he said, no, no, you come and see me tomorrow. So I said why? And he said, don't bother with that. You just come and see me.
And I said, Paul, where and, and he, he's, he said basically Land's End, which was, you know, a good hour and 45 minutes for me, maybe 2 hours depending on the, the traffic. And I said, Paul, I, I possibly could come tomorrow, but I can't go all the way to Land's End. It's, it's too far. And he said, OK, you come to my place in Truro that's about an hour and 20 minutes away. So I said, OK, I asked him again why? And he just said, come.
And I've known this guy for a very long time and I trusted him. So I thought, well, OK, I'll go. So the next day is a very sunny day. I leave home at about 9:00 in my car. I have a lovely drive down into Cornwall. The sun is shining. Cornwall's at his best. And I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing? I get to his house, park the car, knock on the door, and a lady that I'd never met before opened the door and I said, oh, I'm here to see Paul. And she said, yes, I know.
And I said, is he here? And she said, oh, no, he's out with the dog. And I thought, I've just driven an hour and 20 minutes to come down and strange Lady Paul's out with the dog. And I said to her, to her, I don't really know what's going on because Paul was insistent. I came down and she looked at me. And then she said, well, you're here because of me. And I looked at her and I said, well, that's interesting. Why? Because of you? And she said, well, it's a bit of a story.
Would you like a cup of tea? And I said, I think I deserve 1. So I went in and this particular lady was called Jackie, started to make a cup of tea. And I said, Jackie, I'm really confused because Paul was insistent I come down. He's not even here. You're telling me I'm here because of you? You know how does this work? And she looked at me and she said, well, you, you're going to
find this very strange. But she said, I, I can experience things when it's like somebody's talking to me or I can have very vivid dreams and somebody is talking to me. And when it happens, she said, and she's looking at me very intently, she said it is God talking to me. And I looked at her and I said, OK, where you know, where do I fit into this? And she said, well, I had a she
is saying this. I had a very vivid dream and you were in the dream Brian and Paul was in the dream and another friend who's also called Paul. So 2 Pauls. And I was in the dream and I waited and it stopped there and I said so how does this? You know, how does this affect me? You don't. You don't know me. And she said, well, I do know you because Paul's told me a lot about what you're doing, what you're seeing. Pause. And so I said, OK, So what does that mean?
And she said, well, I had the very powerful dream and and that's usually God talking to me and I and and then she added, and that means I have a message. So I said to her. I said, OK, what's the message? And she said, oh, that's The funny thing, I don't know. At this point the cup of tea arrived and we sat at the kitchen table and I'm sort of stirring my tea thinking. I said to her, Jackie, tell me a bit about yourself. And so she started to tell me a little bit about her personal story.
Some of it is very personal, which I'm not going to repeat to you. But in essence, she'd had a tough. Life as a single mum. Then she'd started a project in Cornwall called the Reminiscent Project Reminiscence. And the idea was that they got young sort of primary school children into the residential homes and the care homes to meet with elderly people. And the elderly people talked about their lives and their professions. And she said it just took off.
Everybody loved it, the children loved it, the elderly people loved it. And this project went from nothing to the fact that several schools got interested. And she said I had a lovely job bringing the children together with the elderly people. And she said it, it had been going really well. For quite some time and then one day a lady turned up and she said Jackie, I can think I can help you get some funding to support your project and and
make it grow. And Jackie said, so this lady got involved and she did get a little bit of money, but she said then things started to go wrong and it it was friction in her little project which she never had before. And then she said, the lady said I've got a friend, another lady and she can do XY and Z and she can help your project. And Jackie said when the second lady got involved, the first thing she discovered is the 2 ladies were having a special
relationship together. But she said then things got even worse and my wonderful little project started to breakdown. And then they accused me of having an affair with a vicar. And then it turned into a nightmare. And then she started to tell me another part of the story and she got to a particular point and I said to her, I will tell you what happened next. She said well. How, how do you know?
And I said, well, because I'm learning some some interesting things at the moment and I think I know what happened. And she said, alright, you tell me. So I told her what happened and she looked at me in amazement and said that's exactly what happened. That's incredible. How do you know that? And I said, Jackie, all over the country there are terrible things starting to happen amongst communities and amongst people especially that are trying to do good things.
People come alongside them, they appear to be good and then in no time at all their projects are broken down. There's animosity, there's friction. And I've been talking to people all over the country.
I've been talking to people in Scotland and the Midlands and Northern Ireland. And when you get talking criminality, corruption and something else that comes with it. And I said to Jackie, as this conversation is flowing, I, I think what we need to do is get out there and teach people because people are being attacked, but they can't see it and they don't understand what's attacking them. And as I said this to her, her
whole demeanour changed. And in a still in a lady's voice, but in a very authoritarian voice, she said, you are to get out and you're to travel. Excuse me? You are to teach people. You are to explain what's happening and why it's happening. And then she said to me, oh, I'm really sorry. I get carried away. And I find myself saying to her, you've just given me the message. And this was utterly bizarre
experience. Well, at that moment, in through the door comes my friend Paul with his dog. He's back from the walk. And we then have a a little conversation with our cups of tea over the breakdown of society in UK and the fact that when this breakdown is happening, something dark comes with it. And maybe Ben in his talk to you. And none of our talks were planned. Ben had no idea what I was going to talk about. But Ben started to talk about something essentially dark
coming into the music scene. So I sat and I had a chat for maybe a couple of hours with Jackie and my friend Paul. And then I had to go and I'm in the car on the way back in the sunshine, and my head was literally spinning. And I'm thinking, this is a bit of a joke on myself because I thought I'm not trained for this military man, so you've got to be trained. And as I was thinking that my very old mobile phone went beep beep which was a message. And when I got home and looked at it.
It was a text from this lady Jackie with a little quote from the Bible. And I'm going to say that little quote absolutely answered the turmoil that was in my head. Over the next couple of months, sometimes two or three times a week, sometimes once a week, every other week, If ever I got down in what I was doing, that phone would go beep, beep, and then would come a little message from the Bible.
And I'm, I'm not a person who was well read on the Bible and I'm not going to tell you I'm well read now. I'm telling you my story. So this interesting experience happened and these messages had come in. For a while and then one afternoon there was a it was about 2:45 in the afternoon. There was a knock on my front door and I opened it. And there was a really tall guy I, I knew through my days in UKIP, he was called Ted.
And he was holding an overhead projector, if you remember those wonderful things, with a acetate sheet that you put on the top to project onto a screen. And I said, Ted, what are you doing? And he said, to be honest, Brian, I'm not too sure, but I thought you'd need this. And he gave me the overhead projector. And I said, Ted come in and have a chat and he said, I can't, the wife's off to me, I'll go and get the screen.
And he disappeared over the road and next thing he came with one of the big pull up screens so that you could show the images. And then he was gone. And I, I was in my hall looking at the overhead projector in the screen. And I'm thinking somebody's trying to give me a message here. And about a week later, I decided to give a talk and I gave the talk in the the old, what do you call it, the Women's Institute. Hall. In my village, 17 people came, a
mixture. There was, there were, there were several from local churches and some not. And at midnight, having talked to them about what was going on in the country, I was saying to them, go home. I had to kick them out because they wouldn't go home. And that was the first talk I ever did. And public talks following that is, is up into the hundreds. I, I don't know how many I've done in total, but from that point onwards, I'm going to say everything that I needed was
provided. Never too much, never, you know, a glut of stuff. But I'd, I'd started to work closely with some other people and we needed a little office and a man said I'll pay for that.
For a few months. We needed a computer that was given to us and slowly we started to set up this little organisation which was to print the first copies of the UK column and the first ever copy in January 2006 was one A4 sheet, 500 copies, which we as a little team distributed around Plymouth. So that was the initial start of the UK column and what were we doing?
What was I doing? Very quickly I was travelling and I was giving public talks about breakdown in the country, about the political charity Common Purpose. That was up to no good part. Part of it was to do with the European Union, but also constitutional stuff. And at one point it was getting very tough. I had two very good ladies working with me, two grand mums, Carol and Kate, who did super work. But eventually it was clear that I could not do it all on my own.
And I'm going to say I prayed for some assistance and I was, I was, is he here because he'll get embarrassed. I, I, I was provided with Michael Robinson, Mike Robinson. And that came out of a strange connection where some people invited me to do a private talk up in London. I was a bit suspicious of it actually, because I had no idea really where I was going. But at at the second talk with these guys, Mike had come over from France and he said he
wanted a help. And that's how the relationship built up with Mike. Now, the first part of my journey, I look at that, I was shaken and somebody said, I want you to do a job. And the job I was not asked to do was to preach. I was asked to teach about what was going on in the country. I was nothing about preaching. And I'm not going to preach to you. I'm just telling you how I got going.
So the column starts to to grow. And as it grows, the information, the stories that come in are sort of more and more harrowing because you start to learn about people in poverty, people really sick, people who haven't have lost their children or had businesses taken away from them. So the message that we were always trying to get across was pretty heavy, but it was like something was there keeping you
on rails. As we unravelled this, I started research a bit because I, I just, I, you know, somebody says you've got a message from God, maybe you go and have a look at the manual on God to see whether you can learn anything. And I started to ask a few people who I thought had got a good knowledge as spiritual matters, what they thought.
And I did get some good advice. I also got rejected from a lot of the churches that I went to. So the good old Baptists and the Methodists and the Church of England, they all gave me the brush off. I actually experienced something which I still regard rather wonderful is that I went to speak to some elders from the Plymouth Brethren. Now, if you get research and you'll instantly find that they got a chequered history and this and that.
But the people I met I regarded as very wonderful people. And they said to me, we think you're on a journey. And boy, they were right. And they said they'd like to say some prayers, which they did. And I took comfort in those prayers. But the initial part of learning was all the good stuff. And then probably about six months into this journey, I went to visit some people in a a flat that I've been to before and I was with my wife, but she'd gone into the flat to meet the the people.
I was getting the bags. I walked over the threshold and it was like something jumped on me. I have never experienced a feeling so disgusting in my life. I fell I'll, I thought I was going to be sick. And then in my head I've got this is a spiritual attack. And I'm thinking, how do I know this? And I'm thinking, I don't know how I know it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is. And my wife looked at me and I think she thought I was having a heart attack. She, she said, sit down.
And I, I sat down and she went to make a cup of tea. And I'm not going to give you all of this, but you know what? A dog came into the room and I thought, the dog's going to do something. The dog came in through the room and padded up in front of me. And then we'll say, had a big accident on the carpet. So I'm in a room feeling horrible. The house is now stinking, and I'm thinking, whoa, there's something really bad going on. Well, I recovered from the incident that night.
I had some really horrific nightmares. And it ended up that I drove back to Plymouth on my own through a dark and stormy night. And when I got home, when I went in through my front door, there was a brown envelope on the floor. And when I opened it, it was a Bible. And I know the man who'd been kind enough to give it to me. It was a Bible, and it was some Bible magazines. And I decided I would read these
magazines. And I was fascinated because they were almost like a military manual of warfare. They were. They were actually written by the Christadelphians. And if you check the history of the Christadelphians, you'll discover that they've also got some chequered history. But the ones I encountered were lovely people. I read those two magazines and they were describing breakdown. One of them had a picture of a man's head in a sniper rifle sight and it said The battle for
our minds. And the other one said the European Union, the 4th Reich. And by the time I read the, IT was about half three in the morning and I decided to have a walk around my house and I would come across objects that I got a bad feeling about. And so I decided I would clear my House of stuff that I felt wasn't right. And I eventually ended up with a black sack full of junk. What do you do with a black sack full of junk that you think's a bit creepy? So I decided to put it outside.
I went to bed. When I woke up at about 8:30 in the morning, the house had a beautiful piece to it. And in my mind I felt that I'd been shown the light side. And then it was like somebody said, I'll give you a taste of
the dark side. And that those experiences started me on a journey of not only trying to work to warn people about what was happening, how they were being attacked and undermined, but it also took me on a journey where I started to realise that this isn't simply on the men and political level, this is a spiritual battle. And I always felt that this was a subject that it was not for me to be too upfront about.
And so when I was doing public talks or when we, the UK column, were doing public talks, if I was on the stage, people would say at the end of a talk, do you think there's more to it than men and politics? And I would say absolutely, it's a spiritual battle. And then you could talk with a small group of people. What you could not do at that stage is talk like I'm talking to you now to a large group of people because the war would just go up instantly.
So I stayed away from it, but I'm going to say to you that that I have felt. More and more. Over the last couple of years that the time is right for me to talk about some of my experiences because of the amazing stories that you guys have told me. And it is incredible how many of you have told me. I'm looking not not catching any eyes. So we don't betray any confidences, but basically people who've told me deeply personal stories which have got
a, a spiritual aspect to them. So I'm being very upfront here and it's on camera and I think I've got to the stage of life where the time is right for me to say it as it is. But the important thing to understand in saying that it's a spiritual battle is that don't go down the hole of Oh my goodness, it's, it's, it's all satanic. It's all this, it's all that, it's all dreadful.
And we can't do anything with it because the reality is that there is a battle going on, but we are not the general in charge of the fight. We are foot soldiers and we're going to do the best we can. And the really dark stuff, you have no, absolutely no reason to be frightened of it if you are doing the right thing. And that is that you're being true to yourself and you are actually behaving yourself in a
proper spiritual way. And I'm choosing my words very carefully because I'd rather you went and did your research into what I'm really talking about here. There's some really good speakers on YouTube talking about this. But if it's a spiritual battle, we all need to be closer to God because God is where the power is, and God can help all of us provided we open up to that
help. Now one of the talks that I did in Alternative View where I had slides and a bit more of a formal talk, I had a little video clip of a 19 eighty 1980s BBC black and white documentary called The Witches. And in that very good documentary, I'm sorry, I've had to say, even though it was BBC, in that very good documentary, they are talking about some really horrible things going on, particularly with Colts and children.
And at one point they speak to a lady who has got herself out of one of these very dark Colts. And they say to her, you've been amongst these really nasty people. Is is there anything they're frightened of? And she looks at the camera and she says, oh, they are frightened of prayer. Now, this morning in or lunchtime in the news, I pointed out you've got a government that wants to destroy prayer. This is not an accident. I showed the little clip in front of an audience of 300
people. Later that evening there was an open mic session. I'd been off to one side talking to people. I came into the main bit. There was a lady with a microphone and she said, and that was just before Brian Garry started preaching. And I thought, I don't remember preaching. I think I mentioned God once in my talk. Well, later I saw her in the bar and I said, you said that I was preaching. Why did you say that? And she said, well, you and she's rubbing her stomach.
You you mentioned God and and when you were talking, I didn't feel well. It was it was utterly bizarre watching her. And I said, I talk about God once and you feel unwell. She said, I felt sick. And I said, can I buy you a drink? And she said, yeah, I have a glass of wine. And we went over to a table and I said, tell me about yourself. And what she started to tell me was she was a white witch.
And then she started to tell me that that was OK and what she did and spells and potions and things. And eventually she in her own story said, and we have to do this to appease the elementals these, the earth, water, wind and fire spirits, we have to do this. Otherwise they can become aggressive. So I said, so you're working with spiritual beings that can become aggressive to you. And she looked at me a bit
strange. But then I began to realise that because I had been talking about things in in a spiritual way, this had impacted on her in a physical sense. And I had ended up having a really good chat with her and she turned out to be the essential oils lady. And I ended up buying frankincense and myrrh from her. And you're laughing. But I chose those because it was a way of me. No, she wasn't selling gold, unfortunately. But this was a way of me building a little bit of a bond with her.
But I was also making a statement. She knew what what I was doing. Now this is not my scene. I was a Navy officer. I I've never been through a mega devout family or anything like that. So what I have told you about how the story of the UK column opening up, this is me opening up to you and telling you what happened. But what I'd like to leave on is this important thing that we are in a huge battle, right? And this is not a battle where it wants to just control you.
Ultimately it wants to destroy us. I mean, completely. It's not in the gutter. It's kicking you when you're in the gutter, right? And to fight it, first of all, we have to realise that the person in control of the battle is God. So we don't have to worry about a lot of things. But what we have to do is do our best and we have to treat people properly. And there's some very key advice. Love your God, love one another.
You can't be a member of the Tory or the Labor Party and follow that because they're clearly not loving humanity, are they? So I don't want to be perceived as preaching, that's not my agenda.
But I am telling you my story and if you want my opinion, we are in a mega spiritual battle and therefore the more you learn about how to fight a spiritual battle and that includes praying because when you pray, that's what connects you with God and that's where you get the strength and the support and the wisdom to make the right decisions into what you do on
the ground. I just pointed pick the finger at Ben again because your picture of the satanic fingers being raised and you know the picture of the beast of the beasted, sorry, the horned beast which you saw. This stuff is for real. The people bringing this forward, this very dark agenda are the real deal. That doesn't mean say that we're out to hate them. What we have to do is recognise them for what they are and we have to bring them down. And that is not with violence,
it's by exposure. And it's actually realising that if that horrible dark side exists, the light side absolutely exists and this world can and will go back to a beautiful world. But for whatever reason, we are collectively a generation which has been chosen to fight. So you are all very special people. The fact you're awake, is it a coincidence that you woke up? Different things woke you up. This is all some amazing
coincidence. Or else there's a little statement in the good book which says in the latter days I will call my people. So I'm going to say to you, you are a lot more special than you think. And if you stay calm and measured and loving in choosing how you're going to fight what's happening, we will really start to be making progress. They are destroying the Christian Church because it terrifies them.
They are destroying prayer. They're putting people in prison for praying because that frightens the pants off them. And just so that there's no misunderstanding about Angle, I had the opportunity in my journey to give a talk in Birmingham Central Mosque. It was a fantastic opportunity.
I gave a talk to the men because it was in the prayer hall audience of about 150, I think, including the Special Branch officer and also an MI Five guy, because at that stage every mosque in the country had to have a security to security representatives. They always wear the same shoes, though, Charles, it's a bit of a giveaway, black Polish shoes. I gave a talk about what was happening.
I told that assembled Asian but Muslim community that they were to be the new Jews and they looked at me with just amazement. Why did I say that to them? Because I somehow knew that they were going to be slaughtered. I didn't know it was Gaza or wherever, but I knew something was coming. So I told that audience they were to be the new Jews. When I finished talking to the men, I came into the foyer area of the mosque, which was full of women and children, really big area.
And then I realised that my talk had come over a public address system, so all the women had heard what I had say. I got surrounded by a lot of the ladies who asked me lots of questions and I spent about South. My talk was two hours. By the time I'd answered, questions came in the foyer talk to the women. That was about an hour and a half. And then when I left the foyer to go to my car, I was followed by about 30 young Asian guys. I'm not sure what was going to
happen. Initially I got pinned against my car and then all the questions started again and I spent about an hour talking to them. And I, I'm going to just say to you that they are not our enemies, right? There's another part of this story I won't do because on the limits of time, they are not our enemy. And one of the clues is that the dedicated Muslims will tell you that the teachings in the
mosques has been changed. What's taught in the mosques now is stuff that their parents and their fathers, grandfathers never heard before. And this is a new, this is a new Muslim text which is coming in with the money that builds the mosques. And it's coming in from UA, UAE and Qatar. So if they're having to attack Islam and they're really having to attack Christianity, they're
frightened of both true faiths. And I have recently been with some pretty devout Christian groups where I've had to go through this business of explaining to them that the moment they get on the hate side, they're on the wrong side because you can't be for God and hating other people. And I've made quite a lot of progress, certainly locally, because I've now been invited to do some talks with some of them, my local Christians, which I take as a great compliment
because I'm largely untaught. But they powers that be want everybody at each other's throats, black, whites, Asian, Christians, whatever it the division is. And our job is to avoid that because then we can fight the battle. So I've told you about me. I've been really honest. I don't wake up scared. I'm not thinking about somebody topping me because I think, well, I'm going to go when God's ready for me to go.
And since I realised it was a spiritual battle and you can be calm because the generals got it under control, life's better. But do we need to fight? Yes, because you can't say it's somebody else's problem, you know, you're an adult man or woman. We got to fight and that's what I've been doing. That's what the UK columns been
doing. I think that's why I don't know where a man called Charles Mallett appeared and he was Army and I regard that as very significant because if you've been RAF, I'd have been worried, Charles. So there you have it. If you think you're listening to a different person, you're not. It's just I've been very measured about how I talk about this today. I decided to share it all with you and I'm very happy to answer questions, so do your best. Thank you.
Can I ask you if you think this goes back the spiritual war to ancient times? Well, of course, because it's spiritual and inevitably that goes back. But if if you wanted to put a marker down, an easy marker, and I will use my good friend Alex Thompson, who is incredibly knowledgeable on these matters because of because of his intense knowledge of the Bible and the biblical languages, we're talking Babylon. Yeah, that's what I was getting getting at, really. So so practises, ceremonies,
signs, symptoms. When you actually start to look at it, it may be couched in a new modern video, but what you're actually looking is something around the Babylonian era. To do with King David and King Solomon practise the oh sorry, King David and King Solomon. Well, this is this is where it goes back to and, and you know, let's reach the topic. This is where it gets interested if you go into the Masonic movement because this is where it's that the Masonic movement is heavily focused.
The. Yeah. Hi. Hi. Sorry I didn't really. I just wanted to ask you again. So you're saying you felt like you were having a spiritual attack? Doesn't that isn't that kind of like counter intuitive? You said about the other lady, it didn't make any sense that her spirits would attack her. But then you said you had a spiritual attack. Are you saying you're, you know God? What's the lady who said she was a white witch? Yes, well, the lady who said she was a white witch was talking
about making spells. Which? Didn't harm anybody. She said right, But she said when we when we are using, when we are, well, spells, spells and potions, She said when we're creating potions for this, we have to say a little prayer for the elementals. And when I asked why, she said because we do this because they can be a bit fractious and we say the little prayer to keep them calm. I said.
I said. To her, I said to her, so you are, you're doing what you're doing, but you're dealing with, we'll call them beings that can come back at you, right? And you were questioning that. That was my point. You were questioning that these beings would attack her. But then you said you had a spiritual attack from God. So it's the same thing. I didn't.
That's why I misunderstood. Right when when I said I was under a spiritual attack and I felt disgustingly I'll that is can't be an attack from God. That's why that's why I'm asking you. That's why I was. Confusing attack from the dark side. Ohh right that's why I was confused. I think you were saying that right? You found God and then God attacked you to make you realise what it would be like if you didn't that. OK, thank you. In my mind that's it was so
clear. It was so horrible that you know, I knew whatever it was was, you know, I I should have qualified it and said a dark spiritual attack. But if you if you feel unbelievably unwell and it was a disgusting experience, some something nasty was attacking me and I'm going to say it was the dark side. And and in this, well, there's another lady there. What? What was the?
I I wanted to just say on. What that she, I, I, to be honest, I can't remember what originally came, came back and some of it is blurry now as to you know, I, it wasn't as if I logged it down each day. It was just that in, in my head, it sort of answered where I was. And have I have I paid more attention to the Bible? Yes. And I think it's, it's a good thing to do. But you got to watch the Bible because it can drag you into a lot of stuff, which is to do with the world and people.
And but the, the, the basic message of the New Testament is just so simple. How could anybody not understand it? But you know, I'm looking at you and trying to judge how you're taking this. But for me, it's absolutely clear that you got this battle going on between what is essentially good and love and light and another force which is, which is cruel, deceptive, callous. It's it's everything negative lady. Yeah, on that note, was it? Did it take? Oh, sorry it took that attack
for you to know that that was. That it was real, I I believe. Yeah, I was suggesting. You have to hit rock bottom to get back up again. It was almost like you had to have that attack to know that you was being attacked by the dark side in. The first instance what I was shown was the light, and then it was like, now I've shown you the light, I'll show you a bit of what the dark side can do. Yeah, It was just to say that, yeah, it took that dark side to yeah. Like, I don't know, like
epiphany kind of thing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, I. Just want to take the mic. Take the mic. Take the mic. Thanks for that. What what Brian's explaining to you there with the two extremes, to fully appreciate 1, you had to fully appreciate 1, you have to have experience the other. Yeah, that would make sense to me.
Yeah, Yeah. And something I better say, because I think it's important to say that that I experienced this and then on my journey through 20 years with the UK column, I've met other people who who will talk about these sorts of things happening to them. So that's very reassuring because you have a conversation with somebody else who absolutely knows what you're
talking. But in me telling you this, I don't make the mistake of thinking that makes Brian Garish some special person because I am not a St right. And no, well, well, I I can I can only describe it as as best I can, but take that. But just this business of, of people who experience this sort of stuff and it really makes you think because you're experiencing things, which is out of an easy material world. It's difficult to describe some of these things. I could talk to you probably for
another hour about other stuff. But the trap I don't think I've ever fallen into is therefore thinking, because this happened to me, that makes me mega special. In fact, I can tell you on a couple of occasions I maybe did something which was a bit foolish and, and I think I was
put in my place pretty quickly. Well, that's that's an experience between me and God. But should you open your minds up to the fact that what we're into is much bigger than just bad corporations and people working together to control the world? No, it's more than that. OK. OK. Yeah, OK. Thank you, Brian. Wonderful. I have so much empathy for everything you've said what they're, I think we should never be frightened of these terrible things.
Never because it's us that they're frightened of, correct? The divine within us. And we're not up there somewhere, but in US and our connection with that, whatever, whatever our belief system is, but that higher self, that beautiful self. And that's what, you know, we just need to speak from our heart and do from our heart everything we do. And that is what they hate. They hate us to be happy. They hate us to be joyous. This this is this is very important what this lady is
saying and UK column. We are often saying it in extra how important it is that you stay well, you take time out to relax and clear your head and you stay happy. The happier you are, and I'm going to add to that, the more loving you are to other people, the. More. The powers hate it so you get a
double win. The better you are in yourself, the stronger you are, but the more the other side are absolutely angry because everything they're doing is to crush us. And so if you demonstrate, not only are you not being crushed, but you're keeping a sense of humour, you're still enjoying as much of life as you can and you're battling you. You're doing a really good job. Is this a battle for our souls? And what is a soul to you? Do I think it's battle for our souls?
Yes. Because you know, when you, when you start to think this through, you're into this key bit is, is the flesh and blood all there is or is there something else? And for me, or just say for me and everything that I've read and paid attention to, it makes sense that actually we're all connected. I'm going to say God because I find it easy to work that way. We are connected to God through a a soul and that souls inside us. And it's not. It's not actually part of the
body. But I can't prove that to you. I can only say what my journeys LED led me to believe. Never thought I'd be having a discussion like this with an audience in 2025. Hello Ryan. Have you ever been to Bali? I lived there personally for six months and it's the most spiritual place I've ever been. And I will say, before I went there, I was sort of all over the place a bit and being there for six months, it gave me at least 6-7 years of the after effects of it.
The most lovely people, predominantly Hindu, but even the other faiths, all, it's just the most spiritual place to be. And the people, the majority of people, the Balians don't have anything. They're very basics, you know, but they're so happy, smiley. And, you know, if that's heaven on earth. And I would say to anybody, if you get a chance, go to Bali. OK, thank.
Thank you for that. I I think this is a really important point because we haven't got time to go into sort of the debate on other religions that one of the books I read very early on was called one the 11 World Religion by a man called Lee Penn PE double N. And in that book, very thick book with a lot of footnotes, he's warning that basically all of the religions in the world are being attacked in order to
fuse them. And the fusing of them is the corruption of all of them to create basically the the satanic one world system. So I, I find it quite easy to appreciate that actually any faith system that is essentially based on loving people and certainly not harming anybody is being now rounded up to be pushed into this very brutal one world religion system. It is, it is a fat book. It's quite expensive, but it's well worth reading because it's research is is. I think it's phenomenal.
Hi, yes, you're talking about it's not corporations. Don't think about it's just corporations. It's, it's a spiritual war, a spiritual battle. I mean, I've been listening to a few researchers that have been like, well, podcasts like Wake the Dead and William Ramsay who look into true crime and looking at the order of the 9 angles and stuff. And these secret societies that we might not be on Skull and Bones that we're not Privy to
because we're not elite. We're not part of the elite system that are basically Satanists. And, and what I'm saying is, you know, you can't have, if you're not a believer in God as we've been told as children or something in these sort of like organised religion, but believing the creator. There's got to be light and dark, you know, and there's definitely a lot of darkness going on right now. So what I'm saying is, you know, these, these organisations are satanic and it's coming through,
it's coming through them. And look at how psychopathic they are. No empathy for no one. This is true, but something I'd say to you straight off is that if you've done enough research to be confident these nasty organisations are there, stop doing research on them. Because the more you research the dark side, the more it pulls you into the abyss, right? So when, when you've done enough to understand it's real, you don't need to do anymore.
You don't need to understand how it works because it's so complex. The tentacles are so complex. You, you will actually destroy yourself continuing to go into that route. And there's a lot of people who fall for this. And then they do this research late at night and then they have problems. So once once you are confident you can see what's there that's dark. My advice is leave it alone because you you don't need to research it to win. Yes, agree. Hello Brian and more.
I'll come to you. I've forgotten you. This will be the last. This lady will be the last one. Pen Ultimate. Pen ultimate I wanted to ask you about what you were saying before is if you think there might be the soul not being actually part of our body, but it exists somewhere else and we Tran and and it's like a transmission and there's spiritually dark forces which clearly, clearly, seemingly manifest and it's undeniable because you feel feel them often times.
Is that like an attempt to an attempt to interfere with the transmission or the link between the soul of us and and and the God thing? In my opinion, yes. And and This is why the praying is so clear. You sit or you stand and you're praying. Who? Who are you actually hurting? And yet the government wants to put you in Britain. It's because if you, if you adhere to the rules of the dark side, the prayer has got a power because you are communicating with God and they want to stop it.
I just wanted to say I, I liked, I, I really like what you said and I think it's very important. I, I don't really need to reiterate something you've already said, but I've experienced myself the, the researching of really dark stuff sometimes can actually defeat the absolutely. It it can be, it can be unhealthy and and it can also sometimes be disinformative as well. Absolutely, because it will be everything negative and dark.
Last question. I'm wondering what you view might be like in order to become more of a spiritual. Beyond that, you don't need an organised religion because that also tears and cause division as well. So by learning to be inside of ourselves and to be ourselves because we are all God, we're all God.
I agree. I agree with that largely, but I'm going to say in my mind, there's still scriptural stuff that you can learn from people over the, you know, centuries can be very wise people and have written very wise things. And I, I think that there is, there is good education in good scripture, but I'm not going to, I don't want to get into that here because it, it's just, it's just not right. I, I have given you a really Frank recount of my story as to how I got here and how I, how I think.
And so I, I'd like to just leave you guys with the fact that we're in this immense battle, but the God's in control. You haven't got to worry. If you do X&Y, the whole thing's going to fall apart. You just do as much as you can, but you've got to do the other things with it because if you're not trying to do the right things on a spiritual level in the right sense, you're, you're losing anyway. You're helping the other side. But be happy. That's a really good starting place.
Be happy. Wasn't that a tune? OK. Thanks very much.