Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Travis Walton and you are listening to UFO Headquarters, Fuiful Headquarters, and good evening, good afternoon, good morning wherever you are listening to UFO Headquarters. I am Michael Warden, and of course Linda Zimmerman. I heard her laughing at my intro. I never know what you're going to come up with, and you're right, and it's it's pertains to tonight because we're going to be telling some witness reports from the other
side of the globe. So that is true. That is true. So it's daytime there. I'm guessing, right, I must think, I would think, because it isn't here, so I bet it's warmer, isn't everywhere? Yes, but yes, So we will be doing the main topic will be what some consider the number one UFO hot spot in the country. So a little teaser there, and but first I want to put out a wanted
notice. We've we've talked about the all the many sightings over the Indian Point Nuclear Reactor in the Hudson Valley over the years, and I have interviewed a witness, but to you know, witnesses have been interviewed who worked there, and of course many many have gone on the record who were in the surrounding
areas seeing the craft there. But if you worked there during the night of July twenty fourth, nineteen eighty four, or any of the subsequent sightings where a nine hundred foot long craft hovered directly over the reactor and security systems apparently went down, you know, times have changed since the eighties. I think
people can safely feel safe to go on record. Yes. Now, So if if you are one of those people, or you know one of those people, send them our way, because you know, we're losing a lot of witnesses every day from that era. And if you think you you know, if you've been waiting decades to speak out, now's the time. Yeah. Absolutely, I would love to hear witnesses come forward that actually worked there and what they saw and what they experienced, I mean a nine ft craft.
Yeah, there has to be a lot of witnesses and you know, hopefully now, like you said, that they can come forward. It's been times a past and it's a different era now that we're in. When it comes to ufology, you know UFO investigations. Yeah, the government is you know, holding open hearings and been spending millions on this and so so yeah, so hopefully hopefully someone comes through. But as we had mentioned, where we're going to talk a little bit about something on the other side of the
globe. We have listeners in New Zealand. Did you ever think I'd say that bike? No, that is awesome. I mean New Zealand of all places. I mean, I know that's my trip list right, Oh, I hear it's beautiful. But um so this this man wanted to remain anonymous, which is fine, but he just had the you know, I get such incredible letters and emails and I always can't keep up with all of them. I'm sorry, but this I wanted to mention a few because some of
it is very pertinent to things we've mentioned over the years. And he said that since twenty eleven he's had several sightings and at one point in a six month period, he had four sightings of a massive boomerang that he said filled most of the sky. I mean, where have we heard that? Hudson Valley. It's just amazing to think they're seeing the same thing across the globe. And he said the skin of the craft seemed to be kind of a
light blue green. But remember we were talking about the people who said it looked like they were looking at an aquarium or a glass bottom boat. They didn't quite know how to describe it. I loved that his description transparent, as if the invisibility setting was on one or two. So I mean, right that we've joked about that, like, oh they got the cloaking. They didn't. They didn't turn it all the way up. Um very but you know, the way that that description is given, it really gives you
the image in your head of what they saw. I mean, it was a right, an excellent way of describing it. I can see it. I loved it. That's why. Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm reading it. I thought, thank you whoever wrote this. You know, we know they want to be anonymous, but just a shout out to him, like, you know, a great descriptor. Yeah yeah, So he and it gets stranger. Third time he waves at it and it dipped. It's as massive as it was. It dipped its wings from side to side,
you know, like human pilots do. So what does that tell us? Was there a human pilot giving a little hello? I don't know. They were friendly whoever it was, Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, a red laser beam didn't come out and get him, so yeah, but it clearly was a cause and effect. So um and I love this. So he's like, okay, I've seen it three times. I'm getting a video camera. I'm getting this thing on camera. So as we've all done, how many times, he's sitting there, he's determined, he's waiting,
and he's waiting. He finally saw that's it. I give up. As soon as he turns the camera off, there there goes the craft again. They know they do. It's like that. I mean, how many times have things happened to us before we even get the cameras out of the bag or we're just putting them back right right right, very frustrated. Right. So I thought that was great, and he had a couple of others I
think that are worth mentioning. UM. One craft he said, it's this wasn't flapping its wings, but it looked like a pterodactyl, And I think that's a great shape. I've had people who say things look dragon shaped or like giant birds. And of course there's in this country the legend of the thunderbirds. You know that people so again, and he said it was kind of glowing red. And he wasn't the only witness. There was another witness with him. And then this was very creepy. This goes back to when
he was nine years old. He said he was in bed asleep and the next thing he knows, he's running down the hall terrified. And this is a great quote. The wall was moving in almost liquid patterns, shimmering, and he was saying, maybe that's where I just was put back. And we've heard that a lot where people are seemed to be moved through walls and ceilings or something comes through a wall or ceiling. So yeah, it's it's quite bizarre. And you know, he thought, well, maybe, you
know, I'm nine years old, maybe I had a strange nightmare. But fast forward to twenty fourteen and he said he was taking a two week course on healing, you know, like a spiritual healing type thing, and he didn't tell anybody about any of this, and the teacher instructor said that he had come into contact with something this will put a chill down your spine.
And they tricked him into a deal where they said they would show him the wonders of the Cosmos in exchange for giving up some part of his being or inner something. Wow, that's pretty Yeah, that gave me a little bit of a chill without my spine, like you said. Yeah, because you know, we've heard, we've heard abductees and things say that they wanted something from them. Um. You know, I've I've always contended that they're so
curious and in us because of our consciousness. You know that we can attain levels of consciousness. Perhaps they can't. Um, But of course now everybody's on the consciousness kick, and that's like people are just as gold. Look, there's a thing called consciousness. Yeah, where have you been the last few thousand years? But yeah, so I don't know. Um, but thank you to that particular listener in New Zealand for those And I wish I
had the time to read everybody's letters, but I really do appreciate. I mean, I do read them, but you know, we don't have all the time to go put them on the show, but please please keep sending them. Hey, hey, Linda, what about you know maybe one of our future podcasts we go through some of our listeners just read their letters and email some of them, like really kind of as a thank you to all those people that are taking the time to write in I love it. That's
a that is an excellent idea. Yes, we will do a listeners show. We could probably do several, but yeah, I'll start pulling together some of the some of the better ones. Um. Absolutely, so why don't we take our first break? Then we will get into possibly the number one hot spot and we're back and we are just leaving New Zealand I believe now, Yes, I forgot to mention before the breakthough, Linda his you know the you know, the person who sent this in describing the experience having the
experience also as a nine year old. How many times do we hear that these aren't just a one time coincidental encounter. These tend to be lifelong experience. Is that even if it's not something they're consciously remembering, they do start to come back like, well, you know, when I was nine, this happened and put it all of a sudden. Now you look at like, well, this is kind of a you know, a connection here.
Something's so He's definitely I find it fascinating. Yeah, And I can't tell you how many times I'm interviewing somebody about you know, fighting they had and as an adult, and I'd say, well, anything happened as a child, Well, now that you mention it, and a lot of people say, you know, I never connected that. So yeah, you're right. These things, when you sit and reflect on them, are very often lifetime. So you ready for this jump into hour. I'm as ready as I'm
gonna get. All right. I don't know if that's good or bad, but we are going back to January twelfth, nineteen seventy five. Two of all places not something people consider UFO hotspots, New Jersey, North Bergen, New Jersey. Are you familiar with that area? You know vaguely. I've been down through that area. I try to avoid it with the traffic.
Yes, But if you were to be going down the West Side Highway and you get below one hundredth streaked, you know, in the nineties there and you were to look sharp right right across the river, there is is north Bergen. So okay, so seventy two year old George o'barski he owns at this point a liquor store in the Chelsea area, which again we know where that is. But for all of our listeners around the world, Chelsea is
kind of the west side of Manhattan. You know where Pence if you familiar with Penn Station, if you say, what the heck is Penn Station about thirty fourth to fourteenth Street on the west side is I guess like most cities, there's little distance, you know, there's little literally, there's the village, there's all these little communities. So Madison Square Garden for all of our out of the country list, there's Madison Square Garden, Penn Station right there.
Yes, yes, yeah, kind of a map, yes, absolutely. So he had a liquor store there and he would go home to New Jersey, which would have been very well depending on the traffic, but he wouldn't get out till the wee hours of the morning. And all you have to do is go through the Lincoln Tunnel under the Hudson River and boom.
In fifteen minutes, you're in the North Bergen area. So again, if if this is rush hour on a Friday night, could take you an hour and a half two am on a Tuesday, you're probably home in twenty minutes. So he's driving home, it's about three o'clock in the morning, and he's approaching North Hudson Park, which today is called Braddock Park. If you want to google this, and you know, watch along get an idea of
where we are. And even though it's cold, he had his window open a few inches and all of a sudden the car radio goes to static. Now he's not thinking alien invaders. He's thinking, oh crap, how much is this going to cost, you know, to fix my radio? And then he starts hearing what he said, sounded like a droning sound like a refrigerator, and they're very close to him. Is a large lighted object circular objects that starts flying parallel to his car and then stops and hovers over the
park, roughly near the softball field. It stops, it doesn't land, he said. He clearly said about ten feet above the ground, so store that little number. He slows way down, he sees the craft is about thirty feet in diam six to eight feet high. It has a domed top, a flat bottom, and rows of tall upright rectangular windows. Very specific because he's because he's so close one and a half feet wide, and they go around the edge of the craft. There's if you want to look up
this incident, there's a very good sketch of the craft. The body of the craft is a dark color, but there's this very bright light coming out of the windows, illuminating the ground. So he says his number one reaction, he's scared. Yeah, this reaction from the guy, Yeah, he's scared. He's sweating, he admits it. And he said, and this, yeah, this is priceless quote. I've been held up in the store lots of times and thirty years by men with pistols, knives. I've been
plenty scared, but nothing like this ever. I was petrified. I was petrified. You know, this is a grown man who's gone through I bet you help. You're held up at gunpoint, you yeah, to take these terrible experiences, you know, being robbed at gunpoint or knife point, in the terror he would have experienced in that, and then this being even worse. I mean, my gosh, just that the way he says I was petrified, I was petrified. That's a real, like gut punch of fear.
Yeah. Yeah, Because he was at most sixty feet away from this, so he had a very clear view. Now and once again we're going to up the strangeness factor because not only is this craft hovering, he said, stairs or some sort of ladder thing descends, and I'm just going to tell you what he says. Nine to eleven children's sized figures in either what looked like light colored snowsuits or coveralls come out about three and a half feet tall. He can't see their face because they have a helmet on. So
this is his direct quote. They came down this ladder thing like kids coming down a fire escape, fast, no wasted motion. Each being had a long spoonlike utensil, and a square bag. I mean he's even saying that, you know, not just a sack or he sees it's a square bag. They hurriedly dug up some dirt, put it in their bags, quickly, all got back inside the craft and took off. And the whole sighting was about four minutes, which is a very long time. Yeah, when
you're you're looking at that. Um So, okay, if we have heard this before, some sort of unusual picking we you know, picking vegetation, picking up something, you know, like they're collecting samples. And do you want to read his when he gets home, his his reaction there. I loved this. Okay, that's on the top of page two here, right, Yeah, yeah, my pictures came in all jumbled in different orders. Oh okay, when I sent them, when I sent them to my computer,
I got it here. Oh okay, all right, yeah, this is really really great. I immediately made some tea. Then after that, I turned on the radio, and then I thought, I'm not even going to stay up. I went to bed. I was that scared. I pulled the covers over my head. I got up and took two aspirin. You know, I was scared. I figured the whole damn world had come to an end. I didn't know what the hell to think. I thought, either I'm going crazy or there's something awfully wrong down there. Yeah,
right, honest, just exactly a very raw and just natural reaction. Yeah, and many of the listeners are probably saying, he owned a damn liquor store, have a drink he didn't drink, So for him, makes some tea and have two aspirin. I mean, it's like he didn't know what to do. But again, this is a grown man who's been robbed numerous times. He pulls the cover over his head and in his own home. I was thinking, like, you know, like when I was when we're
all little kids and you're scared. You know, the boogieman can't look under the wood. But but it just to show how we revert to that very primal fear, because that's really what that is. Like, Yeah, that's a good point. That needs to just conceal yourself. I mean, we know it's not rational. If they really want to find you there, they're going to lift the blanket. But it's just like we revert to a fight or flight, that survival mode. Yeah, exactly. And he's even in
the supposed security of his own home. But that's how terrifying this was. He doesn't feel safe behind locked doors in his own place. So the next morning he goes back to the park. He just is there anything can explain this, And he says where the figures had been, there were about fifteen holes in the grass about six inches deep, so something, something had recently been digging there. If you want to read his next you know, when I went there and saw those holes, I got even more scared. I'll
tell you something. I even felt those holes. I didn't believe it looking at them. I put my hand in one. Back home, more tea and aspirin I didn't drink. I bet Betty's wishing he was drinking at this point, but that he doesn't know what to do. I have some tea and some aspirin. Yeah that's that's not going to help. But again he was still having trouble. Can I believe my own eyes? You can just picture him putting his sticking his hand in these holes. So he's trying to
figure it out. It is it a US government? Is it a secret craft? And then I love he just says, but then it makes no sense. How could they recruit all those little guys? It doesn't make sense. I love that. How could they recruit all of those little guys? M yeah, that's pretty prets a priceless comment. Yeah yeah, So was this just crazy guy hallucinating? Uh no, unless there were a lot of
people hallucinating that night and other nights. But why don't we take our second break before we get back to this, and we're back with this is a fascinating story already. Um I love this. Witness his descriptors. He's very You could just tell this is so it just it happens. This isn't someone lying and embellishing. This is someone who's telling you exactly how he felt, and the fact that he keeps going back to that fear and that being scared
is um. You know, this was a life changing incident for this man. And I saw interviews with his son several years later, I think after he passed away, and he said, you know, my dad was just this straight lace, no nonsense, and when he starts telling he goes, I didn't I didn't know how to handle him telling us this because it was so out of He would never make anything up. And he's still, you know, for years later. He's like, I'm just trying to deal with
you know. Of course I believe my dad, but you know, it's basically, you know somebody you think, you think you know all of their reactions, but then you know they've had to encounter something totally life altering to do something so out of character to exhibit fear. I mean there's a lot of little kids who think their parents are fearless, right, and so when they see this kind of reaction, they're like, wait, what you know? So so yeah, as I said, probably people just saying okay,
he had some sort of hallucination. But the groundskeeper was later interviewed for that park and he recalled he didn't know what happened, but he recalled filling up holes there. But even months later, grass didn't grow in those holes in
those spots that were even filled up. Yes, and there were many more witnesses over the years, but that night, this is the story I had I remembered from when it had first came out that next to the park was a thirty five story apartment building called the Stonehenge Apartments, very distinctive, tall, circular, thirty five stories and they said at the time it was built, it was the tallest building in New Jersey. Yeah what okay, Um?
But anyway, Uh, And it was on JFK Boulevard East. So you have this massive buildings in light and confusion in Manhattan, and across the river you had this big park and this very distinctive apartment buildings. So a very good landmark with which to navigate by. Let me just say that. So it turns out that um, somebody very important had been going to Obarski's
liquor store there in Chelsea for seventeen years. Bud Hopkins, I mean with yes, one of the chances google him, one of the leading abduction witness uh investigators, and he just happened to know Obarski and when he starts telling Bud this story, he's said, well, you know again, if George is telling me this, something happened. So he's trying to find other witnesses and he gets the name of the man who was the doorman that night,
but he wasn't still working there. He finds out his name was William Plowski, and he said it was a hard thing to do. You know, now you google everybody, you know, it's so usually very easy to find people. He finally tracked him down the old fashioned way and you can just see Bud now the night of do you have any recollection to seeing? Yes, yes, I saw. This is great. Remember what George George's descriptions. I saw lights a craft. There were ten to fifteen windows, evenly
spaced around it. It was ten feet off the ground. So both he and George same thing. Ten feet off the ground, the evenly spaced windows. He saw kind of he was much farther away, a few hundred yards away, but still he could see in the light that there was some sort of figures moving around. So he corroborates that, and he's looking at this and he's like, oh my god, I have to call somebody, I
have to report this. It's you know, the doorman. As he's picking up the phone, he hears this high pitched vibration and all of a sudden, a big crack forms in the huge plate glass window of the apartment building. Okay, coincidence, I think not, that's right. It just seemed like, Oh, I'm gonna make a phone call. Oh no, you're not. So he has to be freaking out because he's on he's on watch here, and this very expensive plate glass window has just shattered, so he
thinks it's actually been shot the window. The craft takes off. Finally he calls the police to report I think somebody shot this. He does not say I think the UFO in the park did this. But they take a look, absolutely no signs of projectile. They can't find any good reason why this window was broken like that. And then when morning came, Uh, this guy went into the park and he saw that near where he saw the craft
there was a big tall tree trunk that was like snapped in half. And he thought maybe it was some sort of sonic weapon or energy weapon or something that snapped unless the craft bumped into it, you know, snapped the tree trunk and shattered the window. Very strange. So I think that's a pretty good corroboration from two witnesses who never met. Yeah. Right, And and you know again I feel bad for the door man. I mean, he's left holding the bag for this window. What's he How does he just you
know, explain this like that to me? I mean again, he's certainly not going to make up the UFO part of it. No, No, I won't tell the police that, right, like, like, hey, I don't someone shot my window? Not Yes, a UFO used a sonic weapon to shatter my window because I was going to squeal on them. Um, So maybe that's part of why he left. He didn't want to stay there in that job anymore. I wouldn't blame him, no, after that. But but wait, there was still more witnesses five blocks away from there.
Uh, like a whole family. So a whole bunch of people saw Craft slowly going down their street very low. They said it was almost like it was looking in their windows, which is a little creepy. And they actually all ran out into the street and and followed this as far as long as they could, like running out in the street. Uh. After this,
so there was a local woman of school teacher named Anne Karlovich. She was very skeptical, but her daughters had heard about this and they wanted to go run into the park, so okay goes and they claimed there were rings impressed in the ground and burn marks in the field. And I have not been able to corroborate this, but someone, at least one person reported that that day the park was closed off and men in protective orange suits were there.
So that's kind of interesting. Yeah, wouldn't be the first time, so yeah, so let's go on to a few more witnesses. There were other sightings through over the years. In fact, Bud Hopkins reported that January fifteenth, nineteen seventy six, but basically a little over a year to the day, at three am, again, two more witnesses said they saw a craft land in the same spot. So what is it about this park and his apartment buildings? Nineteen seventy nine, manned by the name of Harold Stiff
turns off from Boulevard East into the park. So right there, his car radio stops, his car stops dead, and a bright beam of light shines down on his car, always unnerving, And he said strange sounds and language are coming over the radio. I could make a joke about that it is New York. But he sees this craft. The door opened and he says, little gray men with big eyes come out. The next thing he knows, the door is shut on the craft. He doesn't see anybody, and
it takes off and he thinks, Wow, that was weird. And he thinks, so that was the weirdest ten minutes of his life. Well, he goes home and he finds out that was the weirdest three hours of his life. He has almost three hours of missing time. And this this just takes the cake. Now, I know because I've will interviewed these people that after an abduction or very close contact people get some sort of prec native abilities. Yeah, we've heard that before, right, Well, this takes the
cake. Strap yourselves in, ladies and gentlemen, because two days later, Stith tells his family that, of all things, he had this very vivid dream about the Miss American Paget pageant, which was going to be take game two. Now, he has never predicted anything in his life and could care less about Miss you know is not a pageant follower, okay, And he
says that Cheryl Prewitt of Mississippi is going to be the winner. He even describes what she's going to wear her and what performance she's going to give. Well, you can imagine his family rolling in laughter, right right, Oh kay, Dad, It's like you coming home and telling the boys, you know, I know who's going to be when Miss Universe she's going to be wearing a gold loving god and playing the flute. It's just so absurd.
But guess what happens. Two weeks later, Cheryl Pruitt wears that dress that he described, gives that performance, and she's named Miss America. And he never has another precognitive no prediction, nothing, What the hell? And of all things, you know, like, um, just Miss America, badget and you're not guessing all that, you're certaing like yeah, you could probably guess the winner, but you're going to guess everything else about it and get
it right. I mean that's you know, it's yeah, And unless it was a fix. Unless somehow this normal New Jersey working man had an inn on the which you know, and that was it. That was his one brief shot of precognition in his life. Boy the Universe has a strange sense of humor, don't they. Absolutely, But we're not done around nineteen eighty five or eighty six, police, sergeant, we're in your territory now,
yes, Sergeant bos Boskovic. He is ticketing cars, which is probably a full time job in New Jersey. In Manhattan, he has a very eerie feeling. He looks up and he says, there are these mesmerizing lights that slow down over him, and they're just going really slow. He jumps in his car Lark Avenue and then all of a sudden they take off sideways and head towards the Stonehenge apartments. What is it about this place at I would
love to know what was built there before? What was on that land or right right what was there, you know, before the apartment building, and what was the history of that area in jail or what was there hundreds of years ago. We'll find out it was a Native American sacred site or something. So that that's his story. Then July sixth, nineteen eighty six,
manned by the name of Ron Lee and his girlfriend Ninetta Nappy. She actually has an apartment in the Stonehenge. So they're inside there on the balcony and they see this silent round craft. There's a she was an artist did a great picture of it. You can look that up. Three sets of double lights around the bottom of this craft. It hovered silence. I might have had a slight hum. I'm not sure on that. It wasn't making a
lot of noise. Let me put it that way. Hovers five to ten minutes, takes off, and then a military aircraft goes screaming down that they heard loud and clear taking off after this. Um. You know how many times have we heard these military craft. They're always a little late to the party, yes, and they're they're eternally hopeful they're going to catch it this
time. But you know what's interesting is this, this particular story ticks off so many of the different boxes that we see spread out throughout different encounters, you know, missing time, precognition, the appear parts of the ets, for lack of better word, the military, you know, being just a couple, you know, a little little bit behind but trying to catch off.
But we see this so many times, but oftentimes it's just one or two of those things, and this one we're like getting almost a whole sampling of everything, which I think is fascinating, and in such a small location. When we talk, we talk Hudson Valley. Yeah, that's a big area. Even if we talk of town, we're not even talk We're talking the Stonehenge apartments in the adjacent park. Yes, exactly, one little area, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's still a few more.
Nineteen eighty eight, DJ by the na name of Dan Delia and another witness in a different location. They didn't know each other. This was Saint Patrick's Day, and I didn't we do a whole show or I've given a whole lecture on Saint Patrick's Day. He sees this silent craft. It's diamond shape, it has white and green lights, and you know, again somebody have a sense of humor. It's Saint Patrick's day. And he actually in his car followed it for miles and the craft goes guesswhere, right over the
park by the Stonehenge apartment buildings. So that date reminded me of something. I looked it up in my book and I asked Bob. That was the night Bob, my husband, Bob. For those who don't know, that was the night he had his sighting in Pearl River, New York. March eighty eight. So I told him about this one because when he saw it, it was headed towards New York City. So isn't that amazing? Yeah? Yeah, cool, that's a little bit of a coincidence. I'll go
definitely. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, so remember that and Karlovich, the teacher who was very skeptical. Yes, yes, well, you know, things come around eventually. Nineteen ninety three, so all of those, you know, the original sighting was nineteen seventy five, so she's skeptical for what eighteen years. She's driving on Boulevard East that is like ground zero.
She sees a large elliptical craft craft that suddenly takes off. She's talking to her son in law later that night, and he also saw an elliptical craft with an eerie glow. So many people saw it. It was in the newspaper, but it was a wake up called her. She was all these years, I thought, dah, these people they're seeing something conventional, they're imagining, and she's like, now I know it's real. So it's good when finally people see it. Nineteen ninety nine. A man on his
balcony at the Stonehenge apartments photograph some orbs two thousand and three. Over the park people see lights zigzagging. Two thousand and seven, there's an article in the north Bergen newspaper that claims that little north Bergen, New Jersey, is had the most reported UFO sightings in the last thirty two years. They have reported blue discs, black triangles, cylindrical craft, fireballs, and of course
the craft the night of seventy five. So one last little bit. If after hearing this episode, you're all like, I need to get an apartment the Stonehead if you want to set up your cameras and equipment on your balcony. There's a very nice pool there. But a eight hundred and forty square foot one bedroom home starts at about twenty four hundred a month. I'm going to cancel my appointment with the real estate agent now. It's about the book.
It online as we're talking. But that's a bargain because I also looked up an average cost of a one bedroom apartment in Manhattan now is about four thousand a month. Wow. Though, yes, New York is a nice place to visit, but I think you could get a fairly nice home for a mortgage of four grand a month. Somewhere. You can't blame whatever alien species is operating these UFOs in that area for picking Jersey a lot cheaper for them too, And hey, yeah it's easier to be on that side of
the river. Yeah, let's congestion and trafficking. But no, it's just what is it about that area? Why that? I mean, you can literally stick a pin in that location if you can just google Stonehenge Apartments, North Bergen, New Jersey, and you see the large circular tower still there today and the large adjacent park, and like right there. We're not being vague and say across the Tri state area or up and down the river or all over Manhattan. No, we're saying North Bergen, New Jersey and right
by the Stonehenge apartments. Yeah, that is a very odd place to have a UFO hotspot, I think, But yeah it is. I mean, and Manhattan's right there for people who don't know, it's not a wide river. The Hudson is not a wide river. And you can clearly see if there's a big craft hovering over the Stonehenge, you're on the west side of Manhattan. All those thousands and millions of people could see that as well. So I have over the years, I know at least three people who have
had sightings in north Bergen who told me about it. In fact, one of them saw it that fateful night that Georgio Barski pulled the cover covers over his head. So yeah, I just found this so intriguing because we do concentrate a lot of shows on the Hudson River area, the Hudson Valley and talk about pinpointing, you know, even Pine Bush. It's the whole town, that whole area in Montgomery and Walleden and surrounding. Right, but here, like I said, stick your finger on it on a map and that's
where it is. So I think we need a fag trip. Yeah. The fact that you know, when you go back to the initial sighting with the digging holes, that they're interested in either the ground or what's in the ground, it leads you to speculate like, Okay, they're probably not really interested in a high rise apartment building, but they're probably very interested in or connected to the land that is all that that build on, that the park is built on. So people all have to dig out some old maps and
the rabbit hole just got big again. There you go. That's what you're good at It's curious, you know, because again why that spot there has to be something very specific which we may never build a figure out, but you know quite clearly there is. Yeah. Yeah, and like said, maybe maybe there's some way to find something historically about that spot, or maybe they're whoever they were they were, maybe their mission was get some dirt near
Manhattan. Oh you know a lot of concrete in Manhattan unless you go into Central Park, unless you land in Central Park. So I don't know, but it's it's fascinating, and I think Georgio Barski goes into my favorite witnesses list. Yeah, so yeah, I encourage you to. You can go to YouTube look him up and you'll see him speaking, you know, the quoted him right from his own words and just an amazing, amazing case.
Once again. Yeah, absolutely fascinating. Now I'm never going to look at North Bergen and especially that view from when you look out from Manhattan across the river. Ever the same again everyone, Yeah, and maybe we'll spend a lot more time looking at North Bergen, yes as well. Yes, all right, well I am done. Take us out. Fabulous episode. A big thank you to everybody who listens to us on a weekly basis, or if you're listening on your favorite podcast platform. Those of you who listen and
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