Preston Dennett & Dolly Safran

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show to go on. I talked to her a little bit today and she was a little disappointed that she couldn't do the show because of the guests who we managed to get at the last minute, and I am extremely grateful. He was one of my favorite guests when he was on the last time and could talk to him probably for days and be entertained and thrilled and educated at

the same time. And that is mister Preston Dennett. And I'm just gonna before we get into what we're talking about tonight, talk a little bit about who Preston is. Preston has been investigating UFOs and the paranormal since nineteen eighty six, when he discovered that his family and friends and co workers were having dramatic, unexplained encounters. Since then, he has interviewed hundreds of witnesses and

investigated a wide variety of paranormal phenomena. He has a fielding guest investigator for the Mutual UFO and network move On, a ghost hunter, a paranormal researcher, and the author of twenty nine books and more than one hundred articles UFOs and the Paranormal. Several of his books have been Amazon UFO best sellers.

His writing has been translated into several different languages, including German, French, Portuguese, Russian, and Icelandic. He's also appeared on many radio and television programs, including Midnight in the Desert with Art Bell, Coast to Coast and also the history channels Deep Sea UFOs and UFO Hunters. His research has been presented in the La Times, the La Daily News, the Dallas Morning News,

and other newspapers. He's taught classes on various paranormal subjects and lectures across the United States, and he resides in southern California, which I probably should have clarified that that was Eastern time. That might have been my fault there, Preston. But welcome and thank you for coming on at the last minute to you know, and joining us tonight. Hey, always a pleasure. I love talking about this stuff, so thanks for the opportunity. I appreciate

it. I'm sorry about the time confusion. Hopefully it all worked out. Absolutely, we're here and we're gonna talk about your new book, Symmetry in a few minutes. But when I was chatting with Linda today on the phone, briefly, you know, she said, you know, when you have Preston asked him a little bit about Catalina and the u s OS, the unidentified submerged objects, and I admit that scenario. I haven't really followed a

lot of so I'm curious what is going on with Catalina and USOS. Oh. I wish I could tell you exactly, but I can tell you a few things because I started getting reports very early on my research from activity in this area the Santa Catalina Channel, and we're cataloging them, of course, and they really started to snowball more and more, and before long I found myself really embroiled in USO investigations, particularly after I went on the television program

Deep Sea UFO, which was so successful it was their number one rated show, beat out Ice Truckers, right, and then they called me back for you know, episode two, and that brought more cases, and it just yeah, I just kept on building and building. I'm like, fine, I guess I'm going to look into this, and ended up writing a book about it called Undersea UFO Base in Depth Investigation into the USO Activity in Santa Catalina Channel in Depth. See what I did there? I like that.

But yeah, mile for mile, I'm good. I can say with pretty good confidence that it's one of the top producers, certainly the top ten, if not the top, of USO reports in the world. I have well over one hundred and fifty firsthand accounts, some involving just a few sightings, but many involving multiple object wide range of cases, all different shapes, photographs, on board encounters, a few people being claimed to have been taken to

an underground undersea basse. It is he hugely active there. I think I need to get to California. I have friends there. I've been saying I'm gonna go. I think I have a reason now to go and go out there and maybe do a USO watch. I mean, do people do that? Do people kind of do steakeouts trying to observe things? Yeah, it seem straight out of close encounters. They set up their lawn chairs and once and wait, and a bunch of reality TV shows have taken advantage of this.

There were the recent documentary A Tear in the Sky. They did it Keeping up with the Kardashians called me. They wanted to see the UFO. They lived there and they did. You know, I told him here's how you contact them. Really. Expedition an X did a very good episode and actually saw some stuff. Caught it on footage a USO coming right up out of the water and that was on Expedition X. Yeah, I'm gonna have to look for that episode. It was a good one. I've done quite

a bit of reality TV I'm not always happy with honestly about it. Yeah, I thought they did a really good job. So yeah, definitely it's a great place to see US activity in UFO activity for that matter. Yeah, I definitely think I'm long overdue for a California vacation investigation. I can write it off that way. It's a it's a work related trip, right, you don't actually need an excuse to go. You're allowed to go just

because you want to. So I don't know. Um, So we're gonna take our first break and when we come back, we have a special guest that is also going to join us. We're going to talk about Preston's newest book, Symmetry, a true UFO Adventure. I'm joining us as going to be Dolly Saffron, who is the subject of that book. Fascinating book. I've been reading it most of the weekend and today, and when we come back from our first break, we will jump right in. So stay tuned.

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True UFO Adventure. And this is a very unique, extremely well written book. First of all, then, person, I have to say, when I read your book, I feel like you're in the room talking to me. It's it's such a fun, easy, comfortable read. It's very accessible. And that to me when you told this story it's a very personal story, it really felt like you were sitting there and we were just talking like

we're having a conversation. So my hat's off. That's not easy to do on a subject like this, and you nailed it for what it's worth from me, I totally appreciate that. And to hear you use that word accessible is something I've learned, you know, with you know, writing, and something I encourage other people who are you know, contact you're trying to put their story together. Just make it accessible, make it easy to read, you know, use sensor the senses of people feel like they're there. So

yeah, that's exactly exactly. I definitely there was a few of the descriptive the scenes here that I was just like, you know, blown away, like you could picture them. You really, I was almost seeing I think what what Dolly was seeing. But I think no one wants to listen to me talk. It's really about you and Dolly tonight, and this is Dolly Saffron. Dolly, Hi, and thank you for joining us tonight. Hi,

and thank you for having me. Thank you very much. I feel like I've known you for years after reading this book, so it's interesting to talk to you. Like as I'm almost done reading, I didn't get chest to finish it. It's funny I've been reading about it and then it's also like you know, normally you don't get to meet the people that are talked about in books. So thank you for coming on and for those that you

know, Preston. This is a unique book because this is an in depth, detailed account of an experiencer, an abductee, whatever word that we want to use here, and their experiences with that throughout their life. So take it away that I mean, it's just fascinating. Yeah, this is one of the most difficult books I've ever written not the most because it does cover Dolly's story from her entire line, and I've never had that opportunity, and

she is, I can say, absolutely the most awake contact. Her experiences are not recalled to hypnosis. This is something that she has experienced in real time, which is very unusual. The vast majority of people I've interviewed I have a lot of fear surrounding their encounters. I've kind of shied away from hypnosis. I think it works, but a lot of them do have missing

time and those memory problems. Not Dolly. She reached out to me in twenty sixteen and you know, wanted to see if I was interested in her story, and of course I was, And the more she talked, I became really entranced, fascinated, and more than interested. I was just blown away. I had never heard a story quite like hers. It's very detailed, very extensive. I've heard a lot of the details piecemeal from other people, bit by bit, and always almost always through the lens of fear.

But her story nose starts all the way down to ten months of age, which is crazy when you think about it. But I have to tell you, I've got a lot of contacts who claimed this. So I wasn't surprised to hear Dolly saying this. And she woke up at age fourteen and really became aware. And what's really funny is she was looking for someone to tell her story. And I found out later she shared after we had become quite good friends, that she had gone to the ETS and asked them, you

know, like, I want to tell my story. Is it's okay? Are you okay this? She's had a full on relationship with them. I mean she's with them hours, weeks, days at a time. And they said, yes, if that's what you want to do, we will support you. You'll find someone. Just search and you'll find a good researcher. And she couldn't. She was unhappy with a lot of researchers out there. So am I for that matter, summer on my nautil list for sure, I'm with you on that, but they find She went back to that,

I'm a little frustrated. I can't find anyone I really trust, and missaid, well, here's a guy. He's on YouTube. Look him up. His name is Preston, last named Dennett. I'm like, WHOA. When she told me that, I was like, what the Grays know about me, and I had a suspicion because this is not the first time that's happened, and it wouldn't be the last. So that's how I came to meet

Dolly. That's that's probably the best referral I've ever heard when I when you think about it coming from from something like that, and I liked in the unit auction, you put it right out there that Dolly, you know, and I'll address this to kind of both of you, that Dolly didn't want

to just tell the story to anybody. And you know, we hear that a lot from people that when they wanted, when they're finally ready to talk, they want to make sure the person that's going to be on the other end that's either listening and telling your story or helping them tell the story, is the right person. There was some debate about that. Before I even struck out to look for someone, I had told to lot on board what my intentions were. I was looking for their okay, you know there,

it's okay if you do this. And I wanted to talk about the possible ramifications of what I did giving my life, and so there was some pow wowing about it at first, and they made me realize what I was going to face, what was headed at me, which didn't help at all and not at all. And when I struck out to fund someone, I ran up against a wall of people who were more interested in the story, not the body of the story, the facts of the story. They were very

sensational and I wasn't looking for that. I was looking for somebody who could tell the facts. And when I met when I was shown im Preston. I found him on YouTube and I went to his very first video that he ever put up and it was about healing. And when I watched it, I realized, oh my god, this is it. You know, this is the one, And I emailed him and he may be back in less than a day. Listen to twenty four and it just went from there.

So and I do find Impreston you touched on this. We have interviewed a lot of different people over the years on this program who have had experiences, and most of them are traumatic. When we talk to the people that are recalling what they've experienced, it's a lot of fear. Was different because you're you. This is a very positive experience, and that struck me because that's

not what we're used to. For the most part. I'm sure there's other experiencers can report similar things, but yours is very in depth, very positive. I didn't get the sense of fear at all from this book. Yeah, I can tell you that most of the people I've talked to start out very fearful, but most, I'll underline that most come around at some point and feel like this was ultimately a positive experience for them. Long before I met Dolly, i'd pretty much come to the conclusion that ET contact, while

initially traumatic, is benevolent in its you know, entirety. I guess that's not quite exact word I'm looking for, but in its essence, I guess I would say. So, they're not trying to hurt people. That's not their agenda. It's not to scare you. First thing they'll say is, you know, don't be afraid. We won't hurt you. Their intention, you know, I found a barrier on is very healing based, very much trying to wake people up, warned them on various things, and yeah,

absolutely true. A lot of people are very scared. So when I started talking to Dolly, I'm like, yay, and she started really answering so many questions that I had, so I just wasn't sure because so many people are a little you know, trying to figure things out themselves. Right And Dolly, once you get to know her, she's a bill get her. She's a firecracker. She will jump in with both feet and get it done. Well, I think now I know, Dolly, you mentioned um.

I believe it's Clara. Is that the proper pronunciation to Lara? Yeah? Yeah, I speak with a Swedish accent. I was going to say, you rolled the R like to Lara. Yeah, it's my first language of Swedish. That's pretty I've done to Sweden several times. One of my favorite places, expects to Finland my favorite. Okay, well no, yeah, so that's awesome that you um. I heard the R role. I knew

it right away. But maybe we should talk a little bit about, you know, just who Tara um and the main um ets that are involved here in this story, because it's important to put that context out there so people understand the depth of this. And you know, I don't know, Preston if you want to touch it, or Dolly if you want to introduce you know who who these I don't want to say people, but who these are? People? You know people are um Telara is a fifth dimensional, non

corporeal entity. He's an intelligence. He's very old. He has lived in this dimension that we're in. He's just send it up in evolution for herself and for others like him. Uh, he is. I want to describe the main frame of existence for you real quick and then you'll understand what I'm talking about. We live in a universe and it has many galaxies in it. There's a lot of physical stuff in it, and it's all a main frame of third dimensional density. It's very gravity heavy. It functions, it

does what it does. We are entities, we are consciousness that all come from the core of that universe, and we all live in physically. When we're in our bodies, we live in that third dimensional space. Before that, we're in what you could term source. Okay, people use that word and they identify with it. But in this main frame there are twelve different dimensions. If you understand what a dimension is, you know that in this dimension you have three D right, you can draw a four D square right,

and then you can draw a five D square. And some people have a hard time with sixteen seventy. But it's possible you can use an AutoCAD and actually try to show it in movement. There are beings who live in those ensis and they see us, they live with us, they're around us at all times. Their consciousness as well. They interact with us. You

just don't know it because you're cut off from them right now. You're not living in a space where your consciousness is able to completely commmunicate with your physical brain. Okay, So Chlota is that fifth dimensional entity who works with et. They've evolved into dimensional travel and they long long time ago, years ago, met with dimensional beings who decided that they were on the verge of ascending up into it, and they decided to teach them and help them heal themselves

and work with them. Everything they do is psychic, Okay, Everything they do is not corporeal. It's conscious and they have unbelievable ability. To us, we think it was magic, but it's not. It's just the way that energy is working. You know that everything is light. We're dense light here, We're very tightly packed dense light. But we're creatures of light. Is all. Also, we think in light, we have brain waves, you know, alphabeta, theta, gamma, delta. We can transmit that

out. We can receive it in via a gland that we're all born with in our brain, subpenial gland. Okay, and if it's working properly, you would be very you would see what was really going on. You would you would be able to penetrate the veil between the third and the fourth dimension. You would see into it. You know that you have people talk about guardian angels, you know, people who come and help them out of nowhere. Those are dimensional beings that live around you and they see you, they

love you, and they work with you. From time to time. We're in constant communication with them, only we don't know it. Okay. So that's what delata is. Ets travel in a craft that isn't dwelt like dwell our own bodies. That craft it's somewhat biologically constructed, and it has a place for him to be in dwelling in it like like we dwell from the point of our heart. That's our electrical connection to this body. Okay, in our brain. We our heart transmits to our brain, our brain transmits

to our heart. It's a whole thing all right, So that's the first. One of the first entities that I came in contact with is a very very young child. I also came in contact with an entity that is a tall gray. There are different ethnicities of gray's, different height, you know, places that they come from, but they're all human like we are. They are the human genome. One of the things that you have here in The reason I wanted to call the books symmetry is that the entire universe is

a schematic for all life. Okay, and life doesn't vary very much throughout the universe. It's all corporeal. It's all DNA driven. If you're alive, you have DNA. All the animals have DNA. We're all connected to one another, and we're all related to one another. Okay. I mean, you know, we know for a fact on this planet that you have chimpanzees, ducks, geese, pigs, goats, you name it. We

all have very long strands of the same connective DNA. That shows that even a chicken, if you're looking at it in an egg, it starts out embryotically identical to us. Okay. That drew people out, So we are related to that. There are progenitors. We are them, they are us. We are one, Okay, the whole universe, all right. So Mama is a tall gray she's about six foot two. She's extremely intelligent. And I met her when I was almost six years old. When they brought

me on board. At that age, she became sort of like she's my handler. She's my mama on board. She takes care of me in place of my own mother here, and she's what guarded me, watching me throughout my life. I'm not the only one she want to switch because when I'm not with her, she has others. Okay, she's about eight hundred thirty six thirty seven years old. She doesn't give me the exact number, and I have now begun to look older than her. Okay, it freaked me

out. She is she's highly intelligent. There are other grades. They're a little AI grace. They are the autonomous artificial intelligence grades that are somewhat corporeal or biological as well. They don't reproduce, they don't have consciousness like we do, but they're program They can make decisions, they have rudimentary ability to understand, and they can somewhat teach themselves. They're programming allows for that. But when they're not in use, they turn off. You can turn them

off. They are needed, they're absolutely needed because we know that in space there's gamma radiation. There's gamma radiation that hits us here and it absolutely de rises your DNA. It will take you out. We know the proof of that. Two astronauts from NASA, two identical brothers, when went into space for every year. He came back after a year and his DNA was not the same as his brothers anymore. And he's still in the process of that

DNA healing itself back to slow process. We live in a planet that has a magnetic core, and we have a biosphere. We have a magnetosphere. Okay. That magnetosphere protects us from incoming gamma radiation bursts, you know, and it's out there all the time. There's no such place in space that doesn't have some sort of gamma coming at you. Okay, heavy duty gamma. It fluctuates like a giant sea of energy out there. For them to exist in space into the work they do, they need to have something that

goes out and does the heavy duty work for them. They prefer to be in a magnet magneto sphere like we are. So they travel. They use interdimensional gates like gates, and they go from place to place, but they get on planet as fast as they can or otherwise they would die. Period. So there's a mama. I've met other types of you know, two other types of grays. One I call him mids by the way, Mama has four fingers. And then there's the there's the mid sized grays, and

they're interesting. They're very very thin like the AI and they only have three and they use a prosthesis on their fingers to do manipulation and stuff like that. It's like a little cup that they would on their hands. They put it on like a glove. They are short, short grays. And it was amazing. When I was talking to Preston, he told me his sister in law, Kissara, who's an artist for all his books, had drawn

a picture of one that she saw as a child. And I said, let me see it because they're kind of bluish gray, you know, and he showed it to me. I was shocked. That's them. She drew them very accurately. She bought it. There are other types of ethnicities of et. There's also what you would call a Nordic or a tall ray. They're very very tall. They get taller I get older. They are very long lived. There are I have seen a mented type once in my life

and I had to have a kidney transplant. I was poisoned about seven eight years ago and my kidney's found tanked and I had to have a kidney transplant. And when I was recuperating right after my surgery, I was staying at my my donor's house and they have big farm and it was real pleasant for me to be there. And it was a real blustery that day. And I'm looking out the front door because the screen door was shut with the glass

on. It was coming up on winter and the other door swung in and I'm looking across the way at a line of one of the fields, and I see this movement and I'm like, what the heck. I was actually talking to Preston on the phone and I said, just a minute, I had a little teeny stupid motor roll of foot phonel okay, lovely camera, and uh. I got up and I walked to the door and I'm using it to you. Zoom in on that out because it's seat above a stump

and it stood up. It was crouching down way loo and it just stood up and I was like, holy moli. You know, I dropped everything. I opened the door. I'm in shorts and a T shirt. It's called Wendy, and I went booking it across to go talk to it. I'm like, suck, don't move, I want to talk to you. And it was like and it turned and it's as it was walking away. It's like sending me this message. It said, we are the Watchers and I watch over you. And I mean it was so fast I couldn't keep

up with that. Just had a kidney transplant. I was very disappointed. I've never seen another one. Now that's you know, so that was my big thrill for that part of my life. I've seen other ethnicities. I've seen a knocky. I've seen um they look like dogs that like a horse, you know, Egyptian horse. And I've seen ones that look like raw, you know, sort of birdie looking. I've seen I've seen one that looked sort of like really big bipedal cats that pearl a lot like a real

cat. Freaked me out. I've seen I've seen and I so once I had a an encounter, not a positive one. I used to live in the Amerglades and I used to go dig up Indian burial mounds out there, you know, and the hardwood hammocks and the lads, and the only way you could reach them was by canoe. So I'd take my canoe and I go to one a day. My camping stuff. I camp out and just do digs. Okay. It was very into archaeology back then. And I

was packing up, going home, getting ready. My canoe was on a mound that was on the other side of a big waterway, you know, waters everywhere, and I felt something behind me, and I was like, oh crap, what is that? And I turned and there's this giant tall um. I didn't know what to call it. I called it Lozard diet okay, present me, I'll call him reptillions. And all he had on his mind was lunch. And that was all I needed. And I booked it, Okay, I mean, I just I didn't even take any I

just and I ran for the water. I splashed in. I'm fighting sawrest. I got the my canoe. I didn't even take the time to get in my canoe. I'm pushing it and paddling as hard as I can. I never went back for a month. I'm glad you brought that up, because that was actually one of the notes I made to talk about tonight, was that encounter in the Everglade, because it freaked me completely out. I'm not freaking out reading it. I'm not going to the Everglades now. Yeah,

it's like, oh my god, the alligators scare me enough. Let alone. I'm not afraid of alligators. That's the funny thing. I know how to deal with them. That was walking, you know. Uh No, but we do have to take our second break really quickly. Here. We're up against a hard break, so we're gonna take a second break. We have Dolly's a friend, we have Preston Dennet, and of course me Michael Warden here on UFO headquarters. We will be right back. This is

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is Dolly Saffron. So you know we we heard Dolly explain a little bit about the different encounters the types of people she's encountered. But Preston my Um, you know, it's an extraordinary book. The claims were extraordinary. What you know, if what was your first reaction when you first heard from Dolly and started to hear these details. What were you thinking? Uh, well,

my first thought was, yes, I've heard this before. I've heard this before, and here are some really you know details that are perhaps not super well known, such as what the interior of the craft look like. You know, people often describe being physically examined. I think the popular conception as you're laid out on a table, or more often it's a chair, a dentist like chair. Probably describe that all these details, perhaps like people

will describe how the wall turns transparent. There's not necessarily windows as we would think of them. Instead, they can sort of unpeel the skin of the craft. Dolly talked about that, so, you know, as she just went down the list of her experiences, I'm like, yes, I've heard this before, I've heard that before, but it was extraordinary to here in such detail. I think what really made me hop out of my seat was

her experience at age fourteen where she was taken on board. She you know, initially had missing time, but recalled it that morning by just sheer willpower. And you know the first thing that happened when she was taken on board as she puped, yeah, I've heard this before, but she gathered her wits and she described being taken to see the planet Saturn. And that was just a big wow to me because this is exactly what Jay Gardner, a contact D from West Virginia, had described. He was also at a very

similar age. I believe he was twelve, Dolly was fourteen, but they took him and showed him Saturn. And this is actually something that happened to Raymond follow her very well known you UPLO researcher who came out of the closet as a contact D and said he had this happened and others too, So that was really cool. So all these details started to add up, and I can tell she was very emotional talking about some of this, even moved to tears during some parts. I mean, her story honestly made me weep

at parts, made me laugh so hard. Really just gave me a sense of wonder like I've never felt before hearing her talk about, you know, going to the moon, Like, yes, this is what Kevin Cammon told me a Navy medic. He says he nearly crapped his pants when he saw the Earth rising up from behind the moon. He assumed it was, you know, some desert with craters in it. It was not. They were

taking him around the moon, exactly what Dolly described. So as she took her a while to really open up to me, which I totally understand that's normal with contact these they're very wary. But just as her story really developed and unfolded, it started to answer all kinds of questions for me. You know, she talked about the Ai grays. Can't tell you how many people I've talked to, you know, said Probia came into my room and they

weren't very emotional, and you know they may be robotic. I think they might, you know, be androids of some kind. So Dolly was able to you know, talk about that in detail, and she really answered a

lot of the questions that I had surrounding all this. You know, one of the questions I had kind of jotted down Preston and Dolly, you also you talk a lot about visiting like the Saturn, mars Um, the Moon, you know, different planets and stuff, and you know, a common theme with with anything with the ets is people tend to explain that it's it's always psychic, you know, they hear things are told to them, are shown to them, you know, mentally, it's not shown to not holding

a picture up. So Dolly talks in the book about being shown what Mars was like when it was once a thriving, livable planet. Um, you know, the images just I guess being sent psychically, kind of like how we air dropped from phone to phone today. But you know, my question was as I'm reading that is are these physical experiences? So are the experiencers that are going to the Moon or Saturn are they physically being brought there?

Or is this an advanced form of where basically they give the experience by putting it right into your mind as if you've been there, you know, Like I was thinking, a biological virtual reality almost like Dolly can talk about this for sure, but no, this is physical. Dolly was gone from her house for hours at age two. The police were called. She was not

there. This is true with many contact de accounts. A guy from Louisiana, Tim was supposed to bail Hey with his brother and his father was sitting on the bail wagon waiting for them, and they came running out, like, where the heck have you been? An hour and a half has passed, he says, I was right here. They are physical ysically taken. Physically, this is one physical people are physically healed. They are given implants. I mean, we have proof of this. These craft are physical,

they're photographed, they appear on radar. People are not where they're supposed to be when they're taken. But yeah, Dolly can talk about this, and I think she will echo that, Yeah, Dolly, can you talk about because Preston talked about the experience as a child, the one that as a parent made me like just the complete parental fear was where you were found six

miles from your home. Like I read that, and I mean, I'm imagining my little sons at the time, with their little legs walking, you know, Dad carry me after five minutes of any place, let alone six miles. And I think that's a good start. I'd like to hear that a little bit from you. I was about two years old, and I'll prep by stating that a few months before it happened to me, I had my tonsils taken out the first time I'm actually wearing the third set. I've

had them out twice. I grew a third pair. My father, who was one of those really doting I love you Daddy's brought me a giant red balloon full of helium and tied it to the end of my bed. And I loved this balloon. Okay, it was my friend, and it kept me company while I had this done to me. They knew that. And when they came and got me. My mother was heavily pregnant with my brother. She was about eight months pregnant. And it was the middle of the

day. We were all locked in the house. My father was gone and I was supposed to be sleeping, and she came in to check on me, and I wasn't there. She searched the whole house. All the locks were in place. I was already a master escape artists. Amen, all the high up locks, you know, on the doors, the winds, everything shut. And she called my father first, and he was on his way home, but he was all the way down, you know, on the coast. She called the police. The police came to the house.

They went through the house, we went through the yard. They looked through everything, even in the cross space under the house. They enlisted the neighbors. Everybody started looking for me. Nobody could find me. An hour went by. My father finally pulled up and they put my mother in one of the police cars. They put an apb out of me, and I mean literally started running the streets everywhere they could think of. I lived in a massive canal system in Miami, in West Lakes, Florida, and in Miami

and Southwest Miami, and I was just nowhere. Another hour went by, the phone rang, my dad picked it up, got ahold of the police officers with them. They rady owed my mother in the card that she was in and they drove her to a little utotum on Miller Road, which is six miles from where we lived. I was sitting on the counter, pissed off, angry because when I got dropped off, they told me I would

be given a red balloon. The guy told my parents that I showed up at the door in my underwear nothing else, banging on the door, trying to get in because they told me to go to that go there. I'm two years old. How do you get a two year old to tell you what's going on? I'm saying I went with friends. They didn't get that at all. They actually dusted me off. They were looking for stuff. They looked at the bottom on my feet. They were complete. I mean

I had a physical checkup. Okay. I guess they wanted to know if I had been mishandled that kind of thing. I was perfectly pristine, okay. They sent me home with my mom, and my dad had come. I was at a hospital after that, and they sent me home with my parents, and my parents talked about not living there anymore. That's basically where we went into the Everglades. We went way far away. They've they've talked to me since that happened, trying to get me to describe what was happening

to me. And I just said, you know, the lady came and got me. I was so young, and they were blanking my memory. At that point, I couldn't remember in a fluid line what happened to me. I do have a memory of sitting up in bed and seeing her walk in and me going out with her carrying me. That's the only memory I really have, other than being told i'd get a balloon, which I never got, and and and then going home with my parents and being at the

hospital. That was kind of true. That was traumatic. Okay, that was yes. Yeah, I can tell you that it is a physical thing. Okay, I've been taken ever since I was a little girl. I've been educated by them. I've been trained by them. Why they picked on me. The only thing I can tell you is I one the genetic lottery. That's all I can say. You know, I'm I'm just one in lots of people who have had I guarantee you say similar to me and are

not talking. One of my biggest interests in coming out was I can't wait to hear somebody else open their mouth and start talking. Okay, I'm looking for it. I can't be the only one I know why. It's physical and basically it goes along with how everything is for everybody. We are. We come here for a reason. You know, if you've ever asked yourself, why am I here? What's the purpose of this life? Basically, in source, you know everything, You're part of the online You're you're capable

of doing anything and knowing everything. But you can't employ your knowledge. You can't ascend with it. Okay, you can't make your your consciousness stronger and up, okay, And we come here physically to learn, become wise, to own what we know where it become wise. Okay. They can't teach you by talking to you. They can't give you memories of anything. You have to have them for yourself. You have to wield your own ability.

Each individual person in the universe has to do that. That's how we learn. And so yeah, it's a physical experience. And if you're picked up by them, if you're contacted, it's going to be a physical experience. I can tell you why people are afraid. We're taught to be afraid. This is this is the most afraid place in the universe there is. That's where people here are driven to it. You're you're given lessons in it. Practically, paranoia, fear, just like, hey, division all of it.

We're bombarded with it daily. Okay. It's really hard to use your abilities in those circumstances. So, yeah, you wouldn't understand it yet.

You know. One one interesting or two details early on in the book I thought were interesting is one is the mixing up of clothes and how you started going to the nightgowns because and you know what, and it made me laugh because I'm thinking, here are these advanced beings, and you know, they're mixing up the clothes, such a little detail, but I just don't care. They don't care, and that's kind of what I thought, Like, I'll just it's clothes, put it on them. Yeah, pretty much,

if it's the right size. So I had a way of just having stupid little nightgowns all the time a day. Yeah, that sounded practical. But what I've really found fascinating because I've always wondered this the decontamination part, because I've always wondered when, when dealing with an extraterrestrial and our environment are unique, you know, microscopic life forms bringing us onto their craft, how would we possibly upset so pressed it? I don't know how is this a common

theme? The decontamination to me was like makes sense, Like this is what I would expect if I was brought out a spaceship. I would kind of expect, Hey, you know, you got to hang out in this room for a few minutes because you know, he got earth bugs on you. Basically, yeah, it's common to people who are able to remember it. A lot of people don't describe this, but those who are able to get

some memories of what's actually happened to them. Yes, certainly, Betty andreas And described this, and as Dolly started going into it, I'm like, wow, this is very much exactly what another guy described. Don Anderson also very much in a wake contact. D described how he was taken on a craft. They took him into this little room, very small, you know, kind of closet sized. A beam of light came out down and started

bathing him basically, and he said, what's this? And he was kind of, you know, with a praying mantis type te praying mantis kind of cocks his head, was searching for the right word, and he says stop. So yeah, and I really wanted Dolly to go into detail about this, which she did. And yeah, and she can tell you because there's not a lot of information about it. I have heard it, but it's you know, few and far between. Another example of how extensive all this

case is. Yeah, we live in a microbial soup. We're used to it, you know, ore, we're we're pathologically bound to it, you know, we're in symbiosis with it. Here, we also live in an open aired place where we can breathe around it or breathe through it. It cleans itself and had you know, we have different things in place for us that naturally supposedly UM circulate. Thanks for us, and it helps balance this

out to be here. They are on a craft, it's got its own environment internal, and you start plug putting people on it besides them, and you're going to start breathing that person's microbial soup and everything they brought on board with it, and no, no, it can happen. So they use a light and I could equate it to UM. You know, you use ultraviolet light to kill germs here. They put them in plenums and air conditioners. You can put it in your water system and you know there's a thousand

ways to use ultra violet light to kill germs. UM. That's what it is. You're being based in a light source that kills all the existing on the outside of your body, the microbes that would cause problems for them. So that's why, Yeah, that's and that's what I thought about. How, especially with with COVID, the uv D content nation took off. I mean people were suddenly buying them to put their groceries into clean their um.

You know, their cell phones are keys is anything that they came in contact with them, and I'm thinking that it's probably not a UV light they're using, but something more advanced but very fascinating. Yeah, they also gave you a drink to drink, and part of the what that drink does, it's like we take probiotics, the good guys. It's that's part of them helping you stay healthy and avoiding still to pass them something it's important. So yeah,

I've got many accounts of that. I did a whole study on alien drinks and I always wonder, you know, this is what I love so much about Dolly's stories. So I'm like, what are these four? You know, Whitley Streeber talked about being fed something to drink, and I've heard them many times, people speculating. Now, you know, this is the maybe people forget it's some medicine, it's we don't know. But this is where, you know what I love about Dollies. She's able to communicate with

the Grays face to face and ask questions and will. When I say her case is extensive, I am not kidding. She's taken from age fourteen. She was taken pretty regularly and would spend a couple hours, sometimes a couple of days, sometimes a couple of weeks, and being taken back to that same night, sometimes minutes you know after, because they can pull you out of the time stream, so to speak. I think that's probably a simplification of what's going on here. But yeah, it's amazing to hear her talk

about all these different aspects. Another like being people talk about breathing pools. They're placed in liquid where they can breathe the liquid, and nobody seems to know what this is about. And Dolly was able to describe, Oh, yeah, that's something they do to heal people. So yeah, there's a lot of healing going on. Yeah, we smoke too much on this planet. Your lung stick crunchy and munchy, you know, and they help with

that. Yeah. I um that you mentioned Preston about the time, and I did want to touch on that because I found that a fascinating detail as well. I mean, the book is just it's engrossing. It's easy to to just get lost in it and read. Um, but you know, you would be gone sometimes for much more than just a couple hours. We're talking days, sometimes longer, but yet you were being brought back to where you were taken from. Yeah, and but it would be what minutes or

maybe hours later? And this is they can manipulate time or how is it? Oh, they don't manipulate it. Um. Okay. You know. On the ISS, they had an astronaut and his wife conduct time experiments, and what they did was they had him up with a waukee talkie and she had one so they could communicate with each other openly. They had times, and they had speed regulation during these experiments, and they did a three or four day I think it was four days total of marking speed and time and

time variation between the two points. And what they found out was the faster the astronaut was going, the more time slowed down for him that remained static on the planet and she was still in the same time, but he was slowing down the faster they went. Okay, And it kind of blew their minds because macmat the equations for this are bedded in the theory of relativity, okay, in Einstein's theory of relativity, and it kind of proved him right about it. But this is true, the faster you go times to a

standstill. But then at on top of that, you're in this dimension. Okay, So you're slowing time down in this dimension. But you can also go outside this demon engine, and that's when you go outside of space time. And the way things look to you when you're outside of it is that all of a sudden, your consciousness expands, okay, and you know everything that was before, and you can see everything down the line on the other side of it, and the way you see all time at one time.

For me, this had to be talked to me slowly. I didn't get it right away. It took a long time for me to simulate or even conceive of what the heck was going on, okay, because I see things. I see things layers and layers and layers and layers of existence all at once, okay, And sometimes it's confusing to me and I have to center myself or center on where I'm really actually at it can it can throw you out of everything, okay. And until you like leave corporealism you know where

the physical, you won't really one hundred percent get it, okay. So yes, they can take you out of time. You can travel back in time or forward in time. I've done it. They took me back in time. They've never taken me forward though, And they really don't get off on doing that either. There's a reason they have a morality code that won't let them. Because when you're a physical being and you're living, if you

knew everything ahead of time, you wouldn't you wouldn't live. According to the law of karma, okay, every decision you make mentally is a split decision. It's right now. You can only be present where you're at right now today, okay. So they really won't go into the future at all. If they go back into the future, they're mostly observing. They have no desire whatsoever to interrupt it, become part of it. I mean, there's

no given everybody a second chance. It is what it is. But they use it like a history lesson, okay, and they watch it sometimes it's not a big thrill for them, or they don't do it often, but it happens. They do check the But once you're out of it, you can see it anyway. You don't really have to experience it. You've already it's already there. When you're in this dimension right here, time is dead. It's an empty space. That's a real trip. It can't it can't

go back into it at all. You have to be outside of time space to do that. I hope that helped. Yes, I think so um, Okay, it's a complicated subject for a lot of people. I think, just yeah, you know, think about there's not more than one timeline. There's only one timeline. It's in the third, first, second, and third dimensions. There's a definite timeline. And that's because gravity is dense. It's heavy, and it compacts everything and it makes you feel like you're

slowing down. You're so heavy you can't move fast at all, and time there's a timeline. That's the other way that astronaut proved the faster you go times slowed down for him. Not here, Okay, it reverses itself somehow. It's creepy and complicated, but it is what it is. Okay, So we're running lower on time here because we can talk about this probably for

hours. And so as we begin to wrap up, Dolly, what is the ultimate message that you hope to first all, I hope other people come forward, because that was one of the other things I thought was the floodgates are open. Hopefully impressive email is going to blow up with people. But I just really am watching. Okay, I answer people all the time. Please talk all right. Their message is really, really simple. We are related to them. We have all the same physical traits and gifts they have,

and we are not using them. And we need to wake up. It's time to wake up. We are too much involved in not paying attention to what really is for silly things that have nothing to do with your existence at all. And I can tell you that you only here for a short time. Anything physical here you don't take with you. The only thing you take is your wisdom, your experiences, your love. That's it. When you leave it, all that other stuff goes away, and it matters not

a hill of beans. Okay, how you treat each other? All of that The only way you're going to reach that knowledge is if you start opening up your penia line. Stop becoming toxic. We've poisoned ourselves to the point that it's a real issue. Drink, eat right, you know, meditate, practice being psychic. If you've got little kids, let them be. Let don't tell them you're crazy. Okay, let them be psychic. They will bring it up to you fast. Okay. Let them tell you what's

going on and understand that they're telling you their truth. Okay, there's a tool. Russell targ put it out there. He was a CIA agent for the government and the greatest thing he ever did for everybody was leave this tool. It's called ESP Trainer. It's in the app store. It's good for Apple and Android and your PCIOs and you can download it to start practicing and playing with it. Play with your family with it. Everybody practice, get

into groups, talk about it, open up. They want us to communicate with each other and ultimately with them. That's what they want because once you do that, you'll start to see the truth of thanks and pay attention to what's going on around us right now or so, it's just because we get real issues coming at us and we need to pay attention to it. Preston, let me turn to you and some thoughts. What is it you know when people get this book, what do you hope they take away from it?

Yeah? I think Dolly put out our story not so much to convince people or persuade them that UFOs are real, but to provide information for those who are seeking for people who are having these experiences, and to really correct the beer based viewpoint that is, you know, so being put forth by the media and is absolutely not warranted. It's not true. I don't think we should look to our government for answers. Um they don't think we should

look to other people for answers. True answers come from within, from personal experience, and Dolly's story I think provides an excellent example of what ET contact is truly like, not through the lens of fear, not through hYP hypnotic regression, but what is actually happening, because her story very much echoes what I have, you know, took thirty five years to figure out. And along comes Dolly and she's like, well, here here you go. I'm like, oh, thank god. You know, honest, I'm glad that

we met when we did. I mean, I kind of wish it would have happened sooner, but I'm not sure I would have been prepared to, you know, really wrap my head around her story. But yeah, I really encourage people to take a look at it. I think we'll answer a lot of your questions and will provide comfort to those who are having these experiences.

Well, I think it says a lot about your personality, the energy you give off that you know you're the person she felt comfortable with you know that to tell such a life altering story too, and that that means a lot. That that really says so much about the book, her story and how you were chosen to tell that story. So to me, that's yeah, and it just makes the book more special. It's not just this is a fantastic topic, but you know, the reason it's being told is fantastic

itself, and that has a lot of meaning. That that little short part of the introduction meant so much reading it. So I've tried so hard to just be truthful, let people speak for themselves. No, I'm not pushing the agenda of what I believe about this phenomen It's not about that at all. It's about giving people a platform to share their own experiences. Well, for those who have been listening, you can get his new book, Symmetry, a True UFO Adventure on Amazon or any other on line book retailer.

It's by Preston Dennett. You can check him out online. I believe you've read your own website that's rights weavely dot com. Okay, And if you can look, he's got an impressive list of books. I have three out and I think I looked at your list, I'm like, oh gosh, I gotta catch up here. But but now just fascinating and again accessible. Like I said, you know a lot of off authors could not have tackled

this subject like you did. Like I swear you were sitting next to me, reading with me, and that I appreciate because it made the story come to life. That wasn't just on the page anymore. I was hearing you. I was hearing Dolly without having ever met her, like picturing this is what was going on. So you know, I tip my hat to you because you know how this field can be very difficult to write about, and some do it well and others do it you know, not so well.

So I appreciate when it's so well done. So thank you and thank you for coming on to y Dolly, Thank you for coming out. I am sure we will have both of you back. Fascinating topic. I gotta finish the book tonight or tomorrow, and hopefully next month Linda Zimmerman will be joining

us again with her back healthy, back in the driver's seat. To those of listening at home, whether you're listening in the Hudson Valley or beyond, thank you for joining us on Michael Warden saying goodnight from UFO Headquarters on Hudson River Radio dot Com. Hudson River Radio dot com a favorite among shut ins and dogs