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Two Writers Slinging Yang

Jeff Pearlman
Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes
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Episodes

Elizabeth Merrill: ESPN senior writer

On the details and doggedness of a lengthy look at the aftermath of the 1988 New Orleans Saints. On interviewing people after a tragedy. On life on the mid-2000s Kansas City Chiefs beat.

Aug 26, 20251 hr 2 minSeason 20Ep. 430

Dick Friedman: Former Sports Illustrated senior editor

On the daunting task of line editing some of the all-time great sports writers. On how to improve a piece and how to back off. On the glory days of magazines. On covering Harvard football as an alum.

Aug 12, 202559 minSeason 20Ep. 428

Joseph Bien-Kahn: Senior editor, Esses Magazine

On throwing himself into the world of motor sports without having a PhD in motor sports. On whether media can be saved—and how. On chatting up Laurence Fishburne when Laurence Fishburne has been chatted up to death. On whether this biz is worth it.

Jul 29, 202553 minSeason 20Ep. 425

Julia Poe: Chicago Tribune Bulls and Sky beat writer

On covering an NBA team vs. a WNBA team. On the phenomenon of Angel Reese and the joy of DeMar DeRozan. On whether she knew what she was talking about back in college. On whether writing can be taught, or is strictly natural.

Jul 22, 202549 minSeason 20Ep. 425

Shehan Jeyarajah: CBS Sports College Football Wrtiter

On his spectacular 5,000-word deep dive into Texas Tech football and the power (and limitations) of NIL dough. On creating content in a confusing time for content creators. On whether the writing dream still lives. On a Sri Lankan dude covering college sports in the deep south.

Jul 08, 202556 minSeason 20Ep. 423

Sergio Olmos: Investigative reporter, CalMatters

On covering the Los Angeles ICE raids. On the legality and morality behind masked agents arresting brown men. On going from a 1.7 GPA to dropping out of community college to a career in journalism. On the (sustained) hope of America.

Jul 01, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 20Ep. 422

Jeremy Lanuti: Lead singer, Mimicking Mars

On what it is to be a young singer/songwriter trying to make it in 2025. On writing about an ex-girlfriend without pissing her off. On whether a rocker's talent is truly no illusion.

Jun 17, 202552 minSeason 20Ep. 420

Bob Ley: Legendary ESPN SportsCenter, Outside the Lines host

On what he misses (and doesn't miss) from life in sports television. On Chris Berman and Stuart Scott and Rich Eisen. On how media has changed and what he thinks of 2025 journalism. On the highs of the World Cup and lows of a terrifying flight.

May 27, 20251 hr 6 minSeason 20Ep. 417

Justin Kanew: Founder of The Tennessee Holler

On fighting back even after the heartbreak of 2024. On why local politicians fear him. On the highs and lows of being confrontational. On running a long-shot campaign for congress.

Apr 29, 202552 minSeason 20Ep. 413

Sarah Todd: Utah Jazz beat writer for the (Salt Lake City) Deseret News

On enduring a full season of unfathomably bad basketball played by an organization aspiring to lose. On the nightmarish hell of covering Ben Simmons, the sadness of watching a young Markelle Fultz and the joy of speaking with Lauri Markkanen. On never cowering from confrontation.

Apr 22, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 20Ep. 412

Gabbie Watts: Stand-up comedian

On how to know what works on stage vs. what might bomb. On writing a full stand-up routine and having it flow. On the process of creating material and feeling confident in the content. On bombing.

Apr 15, 202556 minSeason 20Ep. 411

Marcus Lattimore: Poet (and former football superstar)

On discovering his voice via the beauty of poetry. On how the end of a football career brought him to a splendid turning point. On how the words enter his mind, then land on paper. On looking back at the sports machine.

Apr 08, 202559 minSeason 20Ep. 410

Mollie Edsell: New York City-based singer/songwriter

On trying to make it in the music biz in 2025. On driving 2 1/2 hours to play a gig in front of 10 people. On how a song goes from idea to reality. On the difference between good songwriting and epic songwriting.

Mar 25, 202553 minSeason 20Ep. 408

Chris Kluwe: Former Minnesota Vikings punter, writer and activist

On last week's arrest at a Huntington Beach City Council meeting. On standing up for democracy and being unafraid of the word "Nazi." On taking a stand for LGBTQ rights while playing in the NFL. On how we survive this hellscape.

Feb 25, 202548 minSeason 20Ep. 404

Kevin Damask: Writer-Editor, Department of Veterans Affairs

On receiving the dreaded Elon Musk notice that his job might no longer be his job. On the importance of helping veterans tell their stories. On interviewing men and women who went through hell—and giving them to space to speak freely. On the highs and lows of the written word.

Feb 18, 202555 minSeason 20Ep. 403

Aaron Portzline: The Athletic's Columbus Blue Jackets beat writer

On covering the tragic death of Blue Jackets star Johnny Gaudreau; on receiving a kidney from a team employee; on witnessing decades upon decades of mediocre hockey; on the good ol' days of Jeff Juden and minor league baseball.

Feb 11, 202557 minSeason 20Ep. 402
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