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Never Too Old To Defend Yourself (RHUGT Recap)

Jan 10, 202439 min
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A lot happened over the weekend and Tamra is setting the record straight.

Then on RHUGT… is it just us or was there A LOT of sex talk this episode? Luann calling the pirate might be the highlight of the episode!

Plus, find out Tamra’s new obsession.

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Speaker 1

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.

Speaker 2

Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.

Speaker 3

And Tam Judge here reporting from Big Bear, California, where the weather is cold.

Speaker 4

And I'm here in sunny Mexico. Well, the weather is a dream.

Speaker 3

Okay. That's why I have my sweater on, my brass stress falling off. I'm just a mess. I have two hours of press virtual press after this for Traders, which is airing this Friday. Guys on Peacock, the first three episodes are going to drop super excited about it.

Speaker 2

Oh, they're gonna drop all three at once like they did like Legacy. Yes, and then it's oh good Beingjing.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's gonna be good. I haven't seen it. I'm so blond. We don't get to see screeners. We don't get to see the screeners there before. They're very top notch there, huh, very very secretive. And we had you remember, we had no phones, we had nothing, We couldn't take pictures. We can't see screeners, so very secretive over there.

Speaker 2

Well, I can't wait to see it. I think it's going to be really good because there's something that I wanted to let you know that happened. I'm not us trending on Twitter because of all. I mean, you should see the question.

Speaker 3

Because you know I got called a trader.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because you got called a trader. But while while you were hashtag not making friends, I made a new friend who Kate Chestains my DMS chesting slid into my DMS.

Speaker 3

Well, i'll tell you after you posted the thing about mus Stanley, Yeah here she said, oh my god, Teddy's such a good sport or something like that. I can't remember if to look at my phone. And then we started talking and and and I like, I know you'll love her, you know. And she's like, I don't know why she gets so much hate.

Speaker 4

She sent me a message.

Speaker 2

She's like I always wanted to have you know, I'm paraphrasing, but she's like, I wanted to get in the world of commenting on these shows. And I you know, in hindsight, I feel bad for all the shit that I said about you, but you've always been such a good sport about it. And I was like, you have to be able to laugh at yourself. If I was mad at every mean tweet that I got. I would be like laying down in the fetal position twenty four to seven.

But then she was like, I was with someone at Bravo and we were actually talking about how much you and I would actually get along. And I was like, you know, I'm not gonna count my chickens before they hatch, but this just feels like improvement.

Speaker 3

I know, Well, if it makes you feel any better. I don't think she particularly liked me when I met her at the first Ravocan twenty nineteen, because Brandy had said to me, yeah, Kate said you were a bitch to her or something like that. I'm like, what, And then I'm like, I wasn't.

Speaker 4

I wasn't.

Speaker 3

I'm like, oh my god, this is a misunderstanding. So we started out on rocky ground as well.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well, I think she had forgotten about because she said something like we've never even really met. I think my first Ravocon, my Squash the Beef, was with her.

Speaker 4

But I don't.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I don't remember if it was that Bravocon or it was like a special watch what Happens Live episode, No, it was a Bravo kan.

Speaker 3

I wouldn't even remember that, did you guys actually squash it? And what was the beef?

Speaker 4

I don't even remember the beef. She was saying things about she.

Speaker 2

Would live tweet during Beverly Hills and then like I popped off one time and so that it wasn't even a big beef. But the point is I've never had like other than her not liking me. I've never watched Below Deck. I don't have any big opinions on it.

Speaker 4

So I want you to.

Speaker 3

Go ahead and insult her. No, I've never watched your show.

Speaker 2

Well no, I'm excited because if a friend of Tam should be a friend of mine, but not according.

Speaker 4

To what we've been seeing on the world wide Web. So hard question. What is happening? What is happening?

Speaker 3

I don't even know where to start where. I can't give away too much because obviously you guys were going into production next week and I have a feeling this might be brought up. I will not talk the Shannon of it all, because obviously she is on the show and Vicki is not. So where it all started, Like

I did you know? I said on the podcast months ago that I didn't really feel comfortable going and doing another trace in Mega show after Shannon's UI, I was pretty much strong armed into doing the show.

Speaker 2

I mean you had told us like you weren't going to do it. Even then You're like, I don't feel comfortable.

Speaker 3

I don't. I just didn't feel like it was it was a good idea.

Speaker 4

Yeah, right right.

Speaker 3

So you know that obviously caused a little bit of tension, but ultimately I ended up doing it. You know, me and Shannon had a little falling out before Thanksgiving. It was nothing major. It was just kind of the icing on the cake for me where I couldn't hold back. I've done nothing to Vicki at all at all. When we did the last one in Phoenix. The last show in Phoenix, we had lunch with the manager they hired, not me. I was in Scotland. They hired a manager.

Speaker 4

They hired, oh like a manager for the live show.

Speaker 3

Yeah, an agency Paris. He's a very nice guy. Started at LLC, did all these things. I did not have anything to do with that bank account that I was refusing to give my information because I didn't know what my future was on this because quite frankly, I don't have the time and they were talking about doing you know, every other weekend going and traveling. I can't. I don't have the time for that. So I we had a

meeting and we sat down in Arizona. It was and I basically said, you, I have a very busy schedule and then filming is going to start. I have Traders Press coming out, I have the Traders Reunion to do. And I said that I think that you should find a backup because I don't know how much I can

commit to it. And then you know, the falling out with Shannon, and then I got a text message from the manager, the manager, not from me, not from Shannon, and it said, you know, hey, Tamra, there is there's an opportunity in Texas for you guys to do a show. And I said, you know, at this time, I I want to say goodbye to Tracey Vegas. I just it's not suiting me right now. After the last show experience, I just didn't feel comfortable and I thought it was

time for me to move on. So not one of them reached out to me to ask me do this show. In fact, in his text message, he told me both Shannon and VICKI have agreed to do this show. And Doug and it all lies on you, which I thought was a pretty shitty thing to do.

Speaker 4

Yeah, like you know.

Speaker 3

And when I did say no, not one of them called me to ask me, why, what's you know? I think they knew right what I'm trying to say. There was already some tension there now. I had told them at the meeting. I said, listen, I have a lot going on, and I do have this live podcast that we're doing that had been scheduled months ago.

Speaker 4

But let's also be clear, how long has two teas in a pod been going on? What are we are? We almost at three years?

Speaker 3

We're past two yeah, where we just yeah two years?

Speaker 4

We're over two years. So when we talk contracts and long term things, we are in a long term thing and we are going to go with the flow with what our employers say.

Speaker 2

The next step is. So if the next step is a live show, that's what it is. Right after we had such a ginormous bravocon of we're gonna take that next big thank for us. This is a business for us.

Speaker 3

This is a business for us. This is not like this is a special event. This is not like, oh, we're going on a world tour with us, like that that's not what.

Speaker 2

Was happening, but who knows what would what would come up it. But the point is both could have existed at the same time. This didn't take anything away from that, So you can't blame two teas in a pod. We got together and we were like, oh, f Vicky and Shannon, and we don't want them to do well. So now we're teaming up, like yeah, and of course, get your tickets.

Speaker 4

On ticketmaster dot com come.

Speaker 2

January twenty fifth our show and say friend, shameless plug right there, shameless plug.

Speaker 4

But they both could have happened like that. That wasn't why this is the thing.

Speaker 3

They never reached out to me. Nothing, And I started texting with Vicki and she went respond to my text message and you flashed forward. And then Vicky starts shading me in the press a couple of weeks ago, and she said she was just basically saying, because she was asked back, she won't throw napkins and people's face, she won't swear at people. She was just insinuating, like you know things about me, And I thought, and I took the high road because I know how badly she wanted

to be back on the show. I didn't want to add fuel to the fire and all that stuff. And then they announced their two women show on social media. Now, all Vicky did was send me a text message that was very mean. It went after my character. Now this is weeks ago after my character, and I'm like, whoa, okay, well, you know whatever. So when they announced their their show and then Vicky reposts something that said something about the two te holes or something like yeah, there shows, and

I thought, how rude. So I just decided I was going to be a little cheeky. I didn't mention their live show. In fact, when people wrote about it or DM me about it, and I said, I hope some success, that's all I hope. And you know, they could have easily you know, all the comments were where's Tamra da da day? They could have easily said something. Yeah, they could have easily said like, you know, Tameras doesn't have the time right now, but they didn't. They just let

people bash me. So I got cheeky and I said UNO does trace.

Speaker 4

And yeah, and then.

Speaker 3

All hell broke loose and I got a d M, not even Texas DM for Vicky, you know, going off on me. And I'm not going to read it or anything like that, but it was. It was pretty nasty, really nasty. Accused me of things that haven't done. And now they've been feeding stories to a certain somebody that has been bashing me, talking horribly about me. They have given private information about me to this person that is in return talking about me in a negative light, which

I thought is really shitty. And then Vicky comes after me about my loyalty.

Speaker 2

I said, my loyalty, I have once supported you, and anything any supported about you was selfish for her.

Speaker 3

I have always been there for her always.

Speaker 2

Even at Bravo Con. You took up for Vicky, even after all shitty thing she's done to me.

Speaker 4

I was the one that got the call from you, Teddy. You shouldn't have done that with Vicky.

Speaker 2

You should have blah blah blah, just squashed the beef, even though she was repeatedly the one to come for me. And I realized that, you know, I have continuously said she's good television, she's these things. I've given compliments. She's never cared. But this is where I draw the line, because I did a little research of one of the

things that Vicky said hurt her. The most throughout the years is when one of her castmates called her miss piggy when somebody went after her looks and what she's just done about me and calling me ugly and disgusting and a terrible human being, Like you know, with.

Speaker 3

Those of you that don't know, I shared the damns with Teddy and you know there was a part of there where Vicky she instantly goes after Teddy and said those things. So that's about all I can share with you, but just that she was ugly, and I'm like, what, really, who are you that anybody's looks like?

Speaker 2

I don't care sam noxious or say that I'm jealous of the friendship that you guys have formed, or whatever it is that you want to say, but pretending to be so above something and then going after somebody's looks, especially anybody that knows what I've been going. And I'm

not playing the victim card here. I'm simply saying I've been through the hell for the last two weeks, yes, to then come to last year, but how I physically look, I would never and I have never ever, ever, like never once, never acted that way to her.

Speaker 3

And ironically, this conversation with her went down on January sixth.

Speaker 4

January six not a good day for her, and so.

Speaker 3

I just I just center a textao clear or and I said, clearly, January six, it's not a good day for you, and that.

Speaker 2

You ever respond it didn't go overwell, let's just put it that way.

Speaker 4

I didn't go over well.

Speaker 3

I'm just happy to be done. Like I said, I felt like I took the biggest up of my life and as I want, well.

Speaker 4

That's actually what I woke up to that tweet. Oh did okay?

Speaker 3

As I once said in a tagline, the best thing about starting over is never looking back.

Speaker 4

And that's how you feel.

Speaker 3

Really, that's how I feel. This is how I feel. It's a long time coming. Eddie is hugging me and clapping and doing all the things that I told you, so all of that. So I wish them all the luck in the world. I hope that their their show is successful. I want everybody to be successful. I want my friends, I want my enemies be successful. I don't care you put in the heart.

Speaker 4

There's room for everybody.

Speaker 3

There's room for everybody.

Speaker 4

But the exact writing is two teaholes have nothing on.

Speaker 2

Shannon Badoor, Vicky Gumfelson and Doug Buden Live, we know what show you'll be watching.

Speaker 4

In response, Tam screenshot.

Speaker 2

Of the story and wrote on X I always want to say Twitter, but I know on X my friend, my soulmate, my sister, my ass. I feel like I've just taken the biggest dump of my life.

Speaker 3

So relieved.

Speaker 2

And then somebody accused Tam of setting up the drama for Reural Housewives now County come on you guys.

Speaker 3

And then I had a good comeback.

Speaker 4

What was your comeback?

Speaker 3

We'll see who's coming next season?

Speaker 4

Burn Burn, babe, Burn.

Speaker 3

I mean, it's unfortunate, and you know I did upset my stomach for the day, but it was something that had to have been done. I you know, twenty twenty four, I don't want toxic people in my life. I don't want toxic friendships. I should say, you know, I don't want people talking behind my back. I just don't want that.

You know, the show is a whole nother animal. But off the show, me Shannon and VICKI, there was a lot of shit talking about me, and I had had a conversation with them and said, if I find out one more time, one more time, this is when I got back in Scotland that you have talked shit behind my back. I'm done And it came back to me that something was said and I'm done.

Speaker 4

And I think that's the thing.

Speaker 2

I mean, regardless of everybody that's in this heated type of situation and we're all talking shit and it all gets messy from time to time, but I do think there's a certain level of when somebody's your true friend, Like I can one hundred percent say I don't sit around talking shit about you. No. If you then I have any sort of like disappointment, we confront it, we go through it, because that's what adult human means. Do you have highs and loves and your friendships and it

is what it is. But I truly believe you are a good friend to me, and if you're annoyed at me, you will say it.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Well, there's a difference between having a friend group let's see you know more too, and one saying, oh god, she's bugging me today, Like that's one thing. I don't care. I'm sure get on people's nerves right to go after me, my character and things like that, when I've been nothing but loyal and caring and concerned. That's what?

Speaker 2

What is what about this? Where the Montana Henry's writes at Vicky Gumbelson took Shannon in, cared for her and when she broke her arm and was at her lowest, while Tamra befriended Shannon's ex new love interests while liking and commenting all over their post. Come on, Tamra one, you were at traders.

Speaker 3

When I was at traders. It's a complete why. That's something that's been swirling around. I made up with a Lexus. We've talked about this for at brabocon.

Speaker 4

Yeah, at Bravocon, and then I have I have to ask a question.

Speaker 2

I know you don't like to talk about her, but at this point I do need to understand a little bit why Kelly Dodd has entered the chat, because now Kelly Dodd isn't just coming after you, She's coming after me.

Speaker 4

And I'm like, what what skin do I have in this fight? Like where?

Speaker 3

Because because Vicky feeds her stuff to talk about, that's why, and I that's all I'm going to say. And that's what was really kind of a deal breaker to me. This is a person that's gone after me, my husband, my children, my mother. I mean, in such a disgusting way that is not even you can't even wrap your head around it, Like who talks like that?

Speaker 2

Yeah, So for somebody who supposedly did her so dirty and said these terrible things about her, now she's going to bring her in to do more dirty work for her. Yeah, yeah, it just I don't know. The whole thing feels very icky. And let's take a quick break and then we'll come back for the rest of the headlines. Before we get into the episodes, we have a couple of extra questions. When I just pulled up my Instagram, a lot of people ask me who am I on this trip with?

Speaker 3

I Please tell us who you're on the trip with? What trip you're on?

Speaker 2

I am on Kyle Richard's birthday trip. We're at a place in Mexico, which after we leave this place, we will say the exact location because because you know, Fronzi, ain't that nice when they be posting photos of and kini's and all kinds of.

Speaker 3

Yeah, especially in Mexico, I've had that.

Speaker 2

It's not a great angle any of the time. And then who's here? It's myself, it's our friend Nicole, who you've met Jen, you know Jana, Tina and Morgan and Kyle. How are you gone? We come back Thursday afternoon. I have I had to come back Thursday because Dove has her entrance exam into Peak into t K.

Speaker 4

It's very intense.

Speaker 2

I'm like, what kind of testing are you going to give her? Like she can't even write her name, Like, what kind of testing is this? They're like nine am testing starts. I'm like like over zoom.

Speaker 4

No, I have to go to the new school place she has to get tested.

Speaker 2

Wait do I give her Storia will be four February twenty fifth, so she'd start high school and in August, I guess.

Speaker 3

And then kindergarten the next year.

Speaker 4

Yeah, oh my, I mean, who knows.

Speaker 2

Uh. But it's been pretty nice, relaxing. Everybody's working out on the trip. Nobody's caused drama about it.

Speaker 3

I have a guilty pleasure to admit what. I'm gonna blame you. I'm gonna blame Kayden, I'm gonna blame Lisa Barlowe. I'm gonna blame all of you.

Speaker 4

Yeah, diet coke. Ha I did not.

Speaker 3

Drink soda for twenty something years. My kids do not drink were did not grow up on soda, do not drink soda, And Cayden was out and I drank dit soda and then next thing, I know, it's kind of addicting.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no shit, It's like when you gave me a hard time about Taco Bell.

Speaker 4

You know what.

Speaker 3

I'm not going there. We'll not going there.

Speaker 4

You've said other things, But I feel like there's a way.

Speaker 2

If I'm going to get you to try one bean and cheesebriado, no onion, snow tomatoes, add sour cream, You're gonna enjoy it.

Speaker 3

Only I'm getting to the point where I'm smuggling into the house.

Speaker 4

No, does Eddie know about it yet?

Speaker 3

Well I ordered one out one day and he goes, are you I can't believe what? And I go, I know, I don't know, it's it's happening.

Speaker 4

Okay. The next question is if you had to pick one to rekindle a relationship with, would it be Shannon or VICKI are you paused? Hello? Is this thing on actually want you to throw?

Speaker 3

Want you throw Gretchen in there?

Speaker 4

Gretchen Vicky or Shannon?

Speaker 3

Gretchen?

Speaker 4

Yeah, yep, You've never even let me say her name on the pod.

Speaker 3

Oh, because I don't need to see the reason.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2

So now I'm in a place that now I need to turn the air conditioning up. I'm getting sweating, I'm starting I can't. Just so you guys know, I'm still so broke down. I can't get deodorant onto my left armpit. So unless I have a friend that's willing to come over and just put deodoran onto my.

Speaker 4

Left armpit, my left side is not the best.

Speaker 3

Well, how are you maneuvering that? In Mexico?

Speaker 4

I mean, I haven't really done much.

Speaker 2

Luckily, they've set up like a little spot for me outside where there's absolutely no sun and I can go and read and hang and listen to music and play games and do all the things that we do, but not be in the sun and not have to be super active. So I feel like this is just a longer recovery.

Speaker 4

But the food here's delicious, all right.

Speaker 2

The next thing we need to talk about is Crystal on The Real Housewives of Every Hills Live Show. Durite says, I am a fan of Sutton, and Chris makes a face. Durite says it was a lesson learned with Garcel and Crystal says, I also felt Garcel's pain. I know what it's like to be on that end. It happened to me in this group, so it's important to me to be there for Garcel and let her know I support her. Crystal says no one rallied with her her first year,

and Durit replies, we have discussed this. Crystal tells Durite that she wants to sit and listen but appreciate her apologizing even though she didn't have the intention of hurting her.

Speaker 4

I mean I think that.

Speaker 2

That well, I think you know, Crystal saying, I'm going to have ourselves back in this because I feel how she was feeling is a way of her without saying it going even though Garcel didn't have my back when I felt a certain way about things, sut and said, yeah, like I'm still going to do the right thing.

Speaker 3

That is the only headline. It has been a slow newsweek. Actually, there has been breaking news today about Joey Gorga.

Speaker 4

He will let me track.

Speaker 3

He stormed in on his son's wrestling match. He was actually a son, looked like a son was pinned down, and Joey ran out there and got into a fight. With the referee saying it was unfair and they kicked him.

Speaker 4

Out, so it says real health.

Speaker 2

New Jersey star jumped from the bleachers to confront the ref after his son was pinned by the opponent.

Speaker 4

Guys, everyone needs to lay off the caffeine if this is well.

Speaker 3

Have you I remember going to sports events with my kids when they were younger, and some parents really get hyped up.

Speaker 4

I mean I get really hyped up, like, but I get hyped up from it.

Speaker 3

Do you interfere it the the game?

Speaker 4

Okay? On team on team sports? No, I will sometimes like yell like what's that call? Wrap?

Speaker 2

You know, but like from my seat when it comes to stuff with slate, I don't know if this is the healthiest way to do it. But like, she's somebody that thrives is gonna I'm gonna sound like the worst, but she thrives with.

Speaker 4

Like constructed criticism.

Speaker 2

So it's like if she does good, but then she, like, you know, the good score gets like an eighty eight, and if she gets like in eighty two, she's like, mom, I know that means I'm gonna be like fifth.

Speaker 4

And then she'll sit there for a little bit and she'll be like what was I good?

Speaker 2

And I'm like yeah, and she's like she can't take it, like she needs more, Like well, then why didn't I get this?

Speaker 3

So she's just like you, Yeah, so she's like.

Speaker 2

Why didn't I get the eighty eight? And I'm like, well, to be honest, I don't know what you were doing in that corner. Your body was all moving around, the horse looked nervous, like then you were a little deep to this jump.

Speaker 4

And but like she appreciates that.

Speaker 3

Well it's cruse criticism.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like Cruz one million percent isn't interested, Like he's like, this is how many.

Speaker 4

Balls I caught? This is what I got.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I don't want to do We need to come up with the new reality show horse Moms. Horse Moms.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean the craziest you'd pull. You realize that.

Speaker 2

That's how I know Angie, who's also joining our live show, is because she is always.

Speaker 3

Who you also have met my next door neighbor me Agan. She is a horse mom. I could already cast this show.

Speaker 2

I mean we could, we could, We could make it happen and you would be shocked by the level of craziness.

Speaker 3

I'll take another sip of my diet coke.

Speaker 4

Take another sip.

Speaker 2

The fact that you're hiding diet coke in there is even more concerning.

Speaker 3

I had to put it under my sweater kidding.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's get to girls trip because I feel like we can blow right through this.

Speaker 4

Listen.

Speaker 2

If I brought my husband a popsicle and he gave it to someone that looked like Luyanne, his other popsicle would not be seeing any action for a very long time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, no, mm hmm.

Speaker 2

Then Dorenda wants to see a jigglow in action, Martin points out what exactly it's a male as it's a male escort or social companion.

Speaker 4

What was actually going on with Sonya this episode? Why did she have such rage?

Speaker 3

I don't know, I don't know. I never heard women talk about getting late more than Luna and Sonya. But she needed a little action.

Speaker 2

But even when they're in the jan Zuo relaxation therapy and they're all laughing at each other thinking that their tits don't look the same like flotation devices.

Speaker 4

Youation devices are showing.

Speaker 2

I'm like, like, all of yours, aren't, ladies, I had you all got the same fake titties and the same fake teeth.

Speaker 4

This is what happens.

Speaker 2

But Sonia's acting like this is her last day of school and she doesn't care and she's over it and she doesn't want to listen to one thing anybody has to say, Like it's just like I don't want like every single thing, like anyone could be talking, and she's like, nap, we moved on, I'm done talking to you back here like.

Speaker 3

She she was a little cranky, that's for sure. That is for sure.

Speaker 4

She needs to be so cranked up.

Speaker 3

I don't know. Maybe she was sad because it was the last day and they were going home. They have to go back to reality.

Speaker 2

Then Kristin asked what the deal breakers they have all have with women Kristin.

Speaker 4

Kristin, of course, brings it back to the show, saying she.

Speaker 2

Had a close friend for years who couldn't be happy for her when she was on the show. Then Sonya interrupts and asked Ramona her deal breakers. Derenda tells Sonya that she went on for thirty minutes the night before and they listened. Why can't she listen when other people are talking. Between this and the way that Ramona talked to Martin when he lost her white bathing suit.

Speaker 4

If I was any of that crew, I would, oh, well.

Speaker 3

The real Ramona, Yeah, the real Ramona finally stood up.

Speaker 4

She was I want to be like I listen, I wore that bathing suit yesterday.

Speaker 2

It's from p Q Swim. It's one hundred and twenty nine dollars. I'm pretty sure if you look through it you can find it. But there's also nothing unique about it, which is why I bought. I'm basic, bitch, like, calm down, yeah, and what are you gonna wear it again right now?

Speaker 3

I don't know. Do you have any friends who couldn't handle being on the show? Couldn't handle you being on the show?

Speaker 4

Uh? That couldn't handle me being on the show.

Speaker 2

No, I would say, nothing having to do with the show, but because I am so set in my ways about the way I feel about doing things at night, Like before the show, I would like have like a weekly night that I would hang out with my girlfriends, and then once the show came it I couldn't do it. I said, listen, well, we can pick a day that we go hiking or we do whatever. But I'm like, I'm out three to four nights a week already, and I cannot do it, like I'm being paid to be out.

I will go out, but like then the next night if you want me to go out, like I'm not your girl. But if you want someone to go to breakfast and a hike or even a boozy lunch, I'm there,

but I'm tired. I'm not a late night person. And one of them took like stream offense to it and said, like, I find that really selfish, and I had to I mean, it's taken as years, but finally had to say, like, you have to understand I have to protect like who I am as like an individual, and me going out every night and drinking is not the best of me.

Speaker 3

Well you can't do your mom, your wife, like your sister.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you're an asshole. Like I got to prep all my asshole as.

Speaker 3

I definitely had people in my life that couldn't handle me being on the show, didn't like me being on the show, took a back seat. I feel like now we've you know, we're all good friends. Some I don't talk to anymore.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So I mean I think it comes and goes, and I think it also depends. Like there was a time, which granted, I know we talk about it all the time because we have this podcast, but where it did consume me, like every conversation was like, oh, then this happened, and this happened, and then I realized, like, you have to stop to it.

Speaker 3

Yes, And I think that I will put the blame on me as well some of my friends, just because when you're in it, the show is it really does sume your life. And that's one thing going back. I don't let it consume my life anymore. Yeah, and get to the point where I would talk about it and talk about it and talk to my friends about it, and of course all your friends want to know, like what's going on. Then you talk about it and they're like that's all she talks about.

Speaker 4

Yeah, they want to know.

Speaker 2

But then like then once they hear it all the time, it's like that's all she's got. Yeah, back to a girls trip. I think once we get to the astrologist, I didn't even get to hear one thing she said. Did she even say anything other than like, you know what, Kristen and Kelly, they seem to either not get along or get along. I'm like I could have given.

Speaker 3

That reading it was all acroc of shit. Like Helen, Kelly and Kristen are similar personalities, they couldn't be more opposite to me.

Speaker 2

I think that that astrologist single handedly ruined astrology for me when she said Ramona was the most diplomatic. I was like, I was like, what's your name and what's your email? I'm going to need to learn a little bit more about you and he. But then we get to parts that I like, like land facetiming the pirate Thomas.

Speaker 4

I miss when he looked like a pirate. He looked like a regular guy, now.

Speaker 3

A regular guy. But then I mean, I'm gonna throw it out here. The Girls trump is starting to feel a little stale to me.

Speaker 1

Mhm.

Speaker 3

I feel like at this point they're saying and doing things, like certain things just for the show.

Speaker 4

I have to say this, and I'm not listen. I'm not a producer, I'm not in charge here.

Speaker 2

But I think having an entire cast that was once together or pieced together isn't where the Fun Girls trip happens. Like I think why there was magic and the one with You or the one that Kyle did is because it was so many mismatched personalities.

Speaker 4

That don't know each other, don't know what to expect.

Speaker 2

They expect they're going to have these relationships because of what they've seen on TV, and they come in and it's different, and I like that.

Speaker 4

And I mean even.

Speaker 2

Cynthia getting her feelings hurt because she thought she would go in with her best friend and it would be this closeness and then it wasn't.

Speaker 4

Like all of that is real.

Speaker 2

But like what we're seeing here, these women just seem like, I don't know, I got a lot I don't know.

Speaker 3

I mean, like I get it. They were taken off air and people there was you know, people were pissed off and they were mad about it. So they gave them a chance with Ultimate Girl's Trip to do that, which I think is really cool doing a legacy show. I just felt like it just got a little stale, like I don't know, I don't know that we needed to reenact or recreate the Scary Island and go back to the same place. Like I would rather just see them do the Legacy show in New York, Like.

Speaker 2

Yeah, even if it's if we're going to do that, then that's really doing I don't know.

Speaker 3

I think I actually would like to see those girls in New York doing, you know, maybe a six episode, you know, Real Housewives of New York Legacy, not Ultimate Girls Trip Legacy. I don't know.

Speaker 4

I think I don't know.

Speaker 2

But then we get Sonia tells Ramona that they both know they're getting laid when they get home. Ramona says that the other ladies can use their hands. Sonia questions why Ramona doesn't use a vibrator. Are you team vibrator or no vibrator when necessary?

Speaker 3

Vibrator?

Speaker 4

Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2

Well, I'm team cockering. Always get it on Amazon. They're paint disposable.

Speaker 3

What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh, you haven't tried the pink disposable cockerings on Amazon for yourself? No, it's for your partner to you.

Speaker 3

Well, we're not talking about that.

Speaker 2

We're talking about I'm just asking general, like an additional thing.

Speaker 3

I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 2

Oh, but you're fine to say that you're going to use a vibrator, but you'd hate to say that, would you use a cock ring?

Speaker 3

I don't talk about marital sex. You.

Speaker 2

You know what, sometimes when we're talking I just want to take the biggest dump of my life and I feel better about it, but either way, I could have done without Luanne. You know, I'm happy that she hooked up with my annu. Hold on, we also have to talk about how comfortable Luanna is smoking a full blown sig on camera.

Speaker 4

That is like pretty unheard a very rarely.

Speaker 3

Especially for the housewife world.

Speaker 4

They'll do that.

Speaker 3

I mean, the footage shows that she hooked up with the chef and then was he walking around naked?

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I have to say, you look better with clothes on. I kind of done without seeing his but I don't need to see his bear. But it was full saltburn, like what is happening here?

Speaker 3

And did he not realize that there was a camera there?

Speaker 2

Realized there was a camera there? He thought that was his best shot. I was like, oh, for the love of men's okay, pale.

Speaker 3

But okay, so real Quickly, how would you rate the four Ultimate Girls trips that have aired? Season one was with Kyle. Were they in the Bahamas or I don't know, Turks and Capa, I can't remember they were? And then season two in the Berkshires with That's when I was on, and then we went to the Miami. What was the other one? With the Miami Girls, they went to Thailand, and then most recently the New York Girls.

Speaker 2

Okay, I have to say for sure my favorite, Sorry Tam, it's not you, but my favorite was the very first one because it felt the most just like the girls having fun and there wasn't that much fighting. It was more just like haphazard, like the way the women trying to connect. So I love that because I got to see a different side of every housewife.

Speaker 4

My second favorite one was yours because then it was like it was messy.

Speaker 2

There was enough mess, but there was also enough like respect and like appreciation of each other that you kind of got to get through it. And then I guess legacy and then I mean, Thailand to me was.

Speaker 4

Brutal, like I did not. I don't think that I remember enjoying one episode of Thailand.

Speaker 2

Well I Candice wearing that outfit and doing the dance, But I can't say for sure.

Speaker 3

Yeah I can't.

Speaker 4

It's a blur to me.

Speaker 3

But I'm gonna say I think I enjoyed mine before first, not because I was in a brag, No, I just enjoyed it better. And then of course the one in Turks and Kikos then it's kind of a tie between Ultimate Girls Trip, I mean a New York legacy and Thailand? Is that which one I can't remember?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 2

But question, do you think we are never going to see the Carolyn Manzell one? Do you think that's gone? Because now that I mean, we're not going to fully talk about this, but we've seen a go It's shits hit the fan all over social media when it comes to Brandy, she did something with Bryce Sander. How this has really ft with her? And I'm not belittling her experience or any of those things, Like I truly do believe she thought she was coming in to do the

same job she's always done. But the problem is we don't live in a world that we always have lived in.

Speaker 3

So yeah, I get that, but you know, I'm not one to say somebody's guilty before we have all the evidence. So the one thing is is like all the every girl in the cast is sticking up for her. They were all there. I don't know, we haven't heard. You know, it's difficult and in Brandy's situation, like.

Speaker 2

Yeah, your tongue tied, You're in a situation. No, I hope that we get to see it play out. I just don't know that we are going to because once too many things get crossed. I just I don't imagine it's going to happen. I do think Brandy is excellent television.

Speaker 3

We have a group chat still from our Season two Ultimate Girls.

Speaker 4

Trip, and she's just all talk.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, we all chat on there, and just from you know, she's having like almost autoimmune issues from the stress, and her skin are swelling and she's got welts on her face. It's it's sad. I don't want to see anybody go through that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, nobody wants to go through help, but you guys, we have to wrap on that note. So thank you guys for tuning in. Make sure that you get live show tickets to our show, but go to ticketmaster dot com and see us January twenty fifth in San Francisco, San Francisco, Signfrancisco, and we're.

Speaker 3

Trying to end up in Alcatraz.

Speaker 4

We'll see how that goes.

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