Diamonds in the Rough: You Asked, Teddi Spills

Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds and Rough with Myself Teddy Mellencamp and and I am Erica Jane. Oh, Erica Jane.

Holding on by a thread.

I was like, hold on, what's the grabbing of this? You know what?

Okay?

First off, let me be fully transparent. When I think about why I'm frustrated. I look at you, and I'm like, Erica, you can't be frustrated about anything. But I was just feeling a little frustrated this week. I worked a lot this last month, and I was just anyway and just being a brat.

But I think we're You're just because I'm going through a lot doesn't mean that you can't be a brat. It's not one is a codependent of the other.

No, I'm not so sure about that.

I think that you have to for me anyway, look at my I have to look at my own behavior and be like, yeah, I'm justified and feeling how I am, But but you.

Can also go like I also realized that some of the things that I get upset and frustrated about that hurt me the most aren't even the big things that I really am actually frustrated.

I actually kind of understand that, though it's oftentimes the little things that take you to places where you're like, why am I even reacting this way?

Why am I so fucking why am I?

Because it's not really about that.

I mean, I was racing around and doing a bunch of stuff this weekend. But when I got into the car, and granted somebody else was driving me, so it's not even like I have a reason for it. But normally it takes an hour to get to Orange County to LA I was trying to get to you know, Kyle's house for the party. Yeah, and it's a two hours and I would have had one would have thought someone punched me in the throat.

But can I tell you, I'm not going through what you're going through. And I would have had a nervous breakdown on that, Like I just I can't. There's certain things that take me to a place two hours. First of all, from Orange County to Los Ange. This is ridiculous.

Yeah, and Orange County.

Is great, it's beautiful, but why does it take us two hours?

And there was so many accidents and then I'm like, Teddy, you should actually feel bad for the people that got these that's true. However, however, I'm fucking annoyed because I plan this day out perfectly right.

And it's that also.

That's also why I think that I rake myself over the goals. It's just like, Erica, what the fuck do you have to be upset? Yes, you have problems. We all have problems. Everybody in life has problems, but you know, compared to others, your problems are manageable and you're fine and they're yours.

So get over it.

Yeah, that's how I feel, and I'm certainly not sometimes describing that for everybody.

Yeah, you're allowed to.

Have a go you know what, This is fucking shit, and I'm pissed and I'm annoyed.

Well also too, I've gotten to where I removed myself from situations before I go and make everybody else pay for whatever is going on in my life.

That's not why I didn't see the other night.

Yes, that's why I was totally tired and depleted, and I reached out and I said.

No, yeah, not no, but like no, because I don't want to be and.

I think that's important, I think, but you.

Know where this comes from. I was gonna say, you know where this comes from. This is very and ladies, this is very perry post, this is very postmenopausal. This is menopausal behavior for me because I normally would have thugged it out and I've been a pain in the ass and now I'm just like, I know I can't do it.

I know I can't do it.

I can't and everybody's gonna pay for me not being in the mood and that's not right for everybody.

Well, to make you laugh, I caught Lisa Renna trying to sneak out.

See here you go.

I go, I'm sitting there, say that's what I'm talking about, and I doing the old Irish exit.

Yeah, she tried to do the Irish goodbye and don't I couldn't let her be, but I didn't.

You're not letting anybody get away with them.

Was like, hey, Renna, is that you sneaking out? I think you got to put at least fifteen more minutes then have a seat.

Oh god, And she was like, I've been the look on her face, I know.

You know.

And then her other friend that she drove with, she goes, were you not going to tell me?

Oh my?

She was like, I was going to text you since I got in the car. But we all do that shit, yes, and granted I did it one hour later.

Well, it's also a family event. Yeah, and you're also you know, and I couldn't even show up to the family event because I was being a loser.

You weren't being a loser. You just sometimes the power of no is more important than the power Well, I think the power of me knowing.

Yeah, I know where I'm at in my limit, and I was ready to rage on anything that was not It's just it's not healthy.

And your version of raging would that be ignoring somebody.

Or being snappy snappy? It's being snappy. It's being snappy and irritable and just kind of bitchy. And that's not the person that I want to be with my friends. And that she just wasn't showing up.

Yeah, you were like, come on, you hear no.

Yeah, she's not showing up. I you know.

I mean, I broke down in tears, and it was just like the whole thing stupid.

But when you cry, do you call anybody? Well?

I used to call my mother and then you know, we had a falling out and I didn't speak to her for a year over it, so no, Yeah, I mean, well, I'm not going to call my son ever, because number one, he's my child, and number two, he doesn't need that, so that's not happening. I don't lean on him like that. But no, because I don't. I don't need to put that on my mother. She's going through her own thing. I'm not going to put it on my friends.

I just I just really, you know what I really do.

I sit down and I try to meditate, and I try to connect with the higher power and I just kind of take it up with that, take it up with the creator, take it up with God, because I don't need.

To or my therapist.

But she's you know, that's a that's an appointment, and that's if I was going through something like devastating.

Then I would text my therapist.

But she doesn't need me to text her because I'm having a small shitty day to get over at Erica.

You know, come on, it's not that n.

Plus, like I did just learn this, which I didn't even know. In regards to therapy, I thought, you, like, go to therapy for the rest of your life.

I do, but I need that.

Yeah, but somebody told me that therapy is something that when you're talking to your therapist and you're just shooting the shit.

That's not therapy.

That's not therapy anymore. So you need to if you're not actually talking to them.

Well, you know, I come in with a list of questions every.

Time you do.

That's smart, not not well, let me let me clarify. Not every time, but I definitely will write out things and be like, I need to talk, I want to talk. I have four things i'd like to hit today, and she'll go, okay, let's start, and then she'll be like, all right, we need to pick these other two up later because there's a lot of work here.

Yeah.

I make list because I I am at the place in my life like this can't be it. I'm just very I don't know whether you know. I'm talking about it with my son. I said, you know, like, I'm I'm at this weird place in my life because you're you're searching for something, and I am. I'm searching for what is this all about? This can't be it?

And but some days I can. I can feel that way too. But some days I feel like, Wow, what an amazing life this is right now? Same And then some days I'm like, am I depressed?

Yes, the answer is yes, you are.

Yeah, I'm like and if it's and if someone in your shoes was not depressed, that that would be insane and not truthful.

You have a lot on your plate. Yeah, I have a lot of insight.

Then you start to go through schedules, and then you start to be business and then it's like, holy shit, do.

You have a hard time flipping between being creative and then being business minded?

Like?

I know that, Like, sometimes it's hard for me to do administrative things and look at the business of what I'm doing versus being in a creative state.

Do you find that, Yeah, well, I started realizing that if I if it's not something i'm good at, I do much better when I hire someone else sure to those things. But then I pick a day where I kind of go through it. Let's say it's like the financial of course, Like I'll pick a day and I don't want it to be the same day that I'm doing the pot.

Right, I pick one day a week where nothing I focus on is nothing but what has to get done financially around the house. Things like that that have nothing to do with being in a creative space.

Running a millionaires. Yes, all those types of things like I wouldn't do that today. Like today, No, you need to be.

Focused here, and you need to be lively, and you need to be engaged here, and I don't if.

I thought about, Oh well, I got to get to the DMV after this, because by the way, do you have the updated.

No I don't, but I'm using my passport. Oh, my global entry. Why I've already been through. I've already been through TSA with the.

Well, guys, this is a little PSA. If you haven't gotten the new idea with like the special little thing on top you have to bring your passport to travel.

You didn't know that.

No, I was in the hospital Erica.

I didn't know I needed that going on for like ten years though, But this is just fresh.

Yes, the limit is.

But what I want to know is, and maybe somebody what was wrong with the other IDs? They weren't real? Like, yeah, what a fuck? You have my fingerprint already, so what is what is this.

Next time I have to take a test?

I have a global entry, I have TSA pre I have prints on file for multiple reasons. No, I've never been arrested, so that's not it, but other reasons, and so you know, you know, listen, the United States of America knows who the fuck Erica Girardi is. I can tell you that right now. You know when I'm coming through there, you're.

Not sneaking round. Can I ask you another question?

Because I'm in a great mood.

Let's well, that's I really am confused on one of Tamra's answers to our last questions. So we were recapping Secret Lives of Mormon.

Why.

Oh, I was like, what do you mean?

No, no, no, we were watching Secret Lives of Mormon Why And I said, have you ever done any of the following things? And one of the following things that I have done in my life is, okay, have you ever had sex with your partner or a person a partner with another couple having sex in the same room.

I mean, I would have to go way back to high school.

I know, it's like nineteen and I think it happened. And I said it and everybody was like.

What, Yeah, I would have to go way back to maybe high school. I think a girlfriend of mine met these two German soccer players and they were staying in a hotel and maybe we had sex with them like in uh.

Like the same room but separate beds. That's like that. But I'm I mean that would have to go way back.

But I was in high school, and yes I was very mature then I still am.

Okay, well I at least feel slightly better. Mine might have been two beds and may have been the same bed, may have been one of us throw a blanket on the floor.

Yes I like that, but yeah, but I think I was they try to shame you for doing that.

I mean, they didn't try to shame me, but everybody else was like no, never in the same room. And I'm like, I wasn't even paying attention to what.

The other I to have another place, right, we were trying to get it in.

Here's the other thing. Look I I and also where I'm at in.

My life, like I don't really care. You know what people do with their own consenting adult relationships. Knock yourselves out. I have no judgment. Hooray for you to consenting adults or more consenting adults.

But if you only got a one bedroom sometimes you got to figure it out.

It's it's you know, live and let live, and as long as everybody is healthy and happy and in control, and nobody's being you know, forced to do something coerced.

And it is what it is.

It is what it is. All right, you're ready for your Q and I yeah, I am.

Okay, listen, it says this is for all for Teddy, this is her Q. And I I see you're getting tattoos. What's one major thing that you want to start the next chapter of your life after beating these tumors.

I would say, yes, I've gotten tattoos. I've gotten a bunch of tattoos, which people would say.

I saw one on your spine.

I have one on my spine, so my dad. So this is why there has been so many tattoos. So I have this little knife.

I was that was there, you were there for that witness.

So I got this little knife. And it's because if everybody can remember the song I think I like this little life. It became a joke in my family. It's I think I like this little knife and.

So and you almost had me get one.

I've almost almost convinced Erica. But it's like you get annoyed and then you're like this, and everyone that knows who knows that means like I want a knife. I want a knife. But each time that one of my family members has come into town to get knife, including myself, I have gotten another tattoo. So I have my kids initials. I have this match that I joke with Kyle and Jen because we got a friendship one that it looks like a a Q tip.

It does a little bit, it looks like a cut. That's a cute tip.

But then I my dad came into town to get his little knife, which by the way, looks like a sword.

I would expect nothing less. But remember he also covered up your mom's face with Jesus.

That is a true statement. He goes, what should we do with this? He asked the tattoo guy because it was the same guy. Oh, Wes, yeah, Wes. You guys, here's the best going.

He's really sweet.

He's really sweet and really talented and like a true true artist.

He's a nice guy.

Of course, my dad and West really hit it off. But that's when they came up with this sword that I was like, I'm sorry, I don't know how this is knife. And then my brother on the other hand, got a knife like a switchblade like this big on his okay, and that's when I got. My dad goes, I will only get the knife if you get a tattoo with my lyrics somewhere on your body.

Is that what that is? Because I just glanced which lyrics.

So it says life is short, even on its longest days. And it goes down my back. And the thing about my toutoo is pretty much all of them can be covered.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like. I like the fact that, like I have.

My watch on, you can't see well they're yes.

The one on my back I think is actually probably my new favorite is beautiful. And I have so many scars all over my back that it kind of just broke it up a little bit. I like it, and I can't see it, but I would imagine it's cute.

Listen, scars tell stories, okay, and you've got a lot of stories to tell.

Edwin made me laugh because I go, I mean, I can't even He goes, you got another tattoo, and I go, I can't even see it, and he goes, well, someone will be able to see it.

What are you gonna What are you gonna start? You think you'd like to start the next chapter of your life after these tumors.

I want to learn how to do something new, like what like I want to learn how to like dance, oh fun, or I want to learn how to become a better singer.

Which, by the way, yes, it's in your blood.

Like I want to take the time and like get lessons. Yeah, And like I love riding horses. I have goals doing that, but like it's kind of now slates thing that I just kind of tag along with.

Yeah, but you need something new to like reinvigorate. Yeah.

And I want to like find like the apal like not just like my sex appeal, but I want to find like your voice more natural in my movement. And it's not for not for anything for the public. But like I recorded a demo when I was like seventeen years old, and I listened to it and I was like, holy crap, that is terrible.

That's no really, were you being hard on yourself?

Or I mean it shows that I had potentially right.

So listen, raw talent is just that, it's like you got to polish it that if you got raw talent, it just takes.

And I may not want it for anything other than I love to write music.

Hold on, you should be living your life for yourself. Yeah, and you don't have to explain why you're doing anything for anybody.

But I love to write music. I have like twenty songs that I've written.

I love to hear this and oh my god, Seddie, I want so I but I don't know how to write.

I know how to write the lyrics, but I don't know how to do.

Music the music. So is this where John comes in?

Well, that's where he was like, well, we can do it together.

Actually it's kind of cool.

Yeah, So just different things that I can do with FaceTime. I mean, it's it's easy ways to do and plus, like, I'm at a place now where I just want to see my family and my friends as much as I can because I appreciate them so much more than I did before.

Of course, I appreciate everything. Do you have a keyboard?

I don't.

I'm gonna get you one free birthday, Okay.

It's coming. Our birthdays are coming now, I know our birthday.

I'm not going to get you like some fancy keyboards, So John, don't go out by me on a keyboard.

But we need to get you a keyboard for your birthday, just so I can. Yeah, so you.

Can just pick out little melodies whatever. You can just start playing little things.

I just want to do something new and I don't want to get stagnant.

No, right exactly. And there's something about look that creativity. You can unlock all of these things, and you should really do that.

Yeah, I'll get you a keyboard for a birth And.

Let's be honest. I'm not going to go to school and get any kind of license or I don't want to learn any of that. I don't care.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I'm going to pick something singer dance perfect. I love it singing and dancing. Question number two. I recently suffered a health crisis myself and find myself slipping into all a depression. What do you do to protect your mental health? But I got to tell you something, yours, I've never seen anything like you.

I just even hearing that, I could start crying. But I think the main reason was somebody told me. And I saw somebody actually at Kyle's the other night who told me that his wife had the same thing as me, and she is about six months post and he's like he didn't even realize it that I had it. I mean, he realized something was going on. He's like, but she's you know, fallen into it a pretty dark place, and but you know, they said she'll probably come out of

I'm sure.

And then I just said to my dad and to my friends, I said, I need to get out of here, like and I don't want you guys Microman like I want to go to lunch.

Yep, I want to live.

And I want I said, can somebody go, like get me some decent clothes because nothing fits. So I think, no matter how I'm feeling, yes, listen to your body. But if you're feeling sad or you're feeling depressed, find something that you can go do that makes you feel alive. Because my doctor even said to me, he goes, I feel like the reason you're doing as well as you're doing is because you have fought for every single thing. And he's like, and your body knows it wants to

Wow.

So I go, so could I go skydiving tomorrow? And he's like, I mean not that I want to.

He's like yeah, yeah.

He's like you hurting yourself or you injuring yourself isn't going to be any different than anybody else in the world.

Wow.

So if that's something a dream of yours, go do it. Go do it. Wow, anything that's going to generate happiness for you and keep away from stress. And I found that there was a couple of people in my life.

Did you cut them out?

That just added to my stress and were always negative nancies about everything, And I just was like, listen, if this is what you want to talk about, I don't want to talk to you.

That's wonderful.

I'm healing. Well, you've got a Yeah, I'm healing, and I don't want to hear it. I don't care what so and so said on the internet. I don't care what you read and so and so's book. That's not a Whatever I'm doing is working for me, and I don't need your two cents.

Yes, exactly.

And that has helped me because I think a lot and especially you know, if she's struggling or he's struggling is dependent on what somebody else is thinking she should be doing or he should be doing.

You also have a great environment. You're also like people don't know this about you, But you're one of the most mentally tough people.

That I know.

And Teddy's never complained. Teddy nine months pregnant in pumps in a skirt like you know on some Crazy Housewives think, never complained. Else she did was eat thumbs. And I say that because you're just not that girl. And I think that you have this tremendous will And it really comes down to look, there's I can't even imagine what you go through, really, but I.

Think anybody can generate. I'm not any stronger than anybody else. I just think I've generated myself through out my life to not be pitied. Yep, it's a big thing for you, and it's a huge thing. Like there is nothing I despise more than I feel like when somebody's pitying me, or when somebody's weaning me, Oh, how are we doing? What are we going to do?

No, yeah, you're not that.

This is my life and this is what I want and this is what I'm going to do, and hopefully it's going to work. And if it doesn't, everybody in my life will see that I fought my very hardest to show them how much I love them.

Yeah.

Well, there's no doubt that you love your family and your friends. Yeah, there's no doubt that I think just shows up like there's no stopping that.

But also taking away the guilt. Like yesterday, let me tell you something, I slept for a jillion hours and watched one million episodes of Friends with Neighbors.

Let me ask you a question, what should you have been doing that you would have felt guilty about.

What WO was?

I would have felt guilty because I only hung with my kids till eleven am. But then I called Edwin and I said, hey, I'm hitting that wall that happened around day four or five. I am tired therapy. I'm tired. And he's like, you want me to come get the kids?

Yeah?

And I was like I would love that. And he took them to church, into Burger place and lunch and blah blah blah, and then Cruise went to a birthday party and then they got dropped off at home at five, and we had dinner and went to bed like it was a perfect day.

But I had to ask for help, Right, you don't like doing that.

I don't like doing that, but it felt really good. But I got to say and then but then it didn't feel bad anymore. And then I got to say, too, thank you so much for doing that yesterday. I really needed it, yes, And instead of guilting me, he responded by, of course, we had a great time perfect. So it's just like learning that you can ask for help. It's not the end of the world.

It's not. It's really not.

And you, I think also too, you are very hard on yourself, and maybe in some way this has brought some softness, you know, brought some softness.

I can hug now.

I know life's a little bit sweeter.

I can hug me. It's so crazy.

Yeah, you've built a brand around accountability, But what's one area of your life you consistently let yourself off the hook?

I left myself off the hook about everything, guys. And also I dread that I set accountability. I am a health and wellness coach that helps you change your life and gets your body moving and helps you make some healthier choices.

You did call yourself an accountable, but I.

Did pick the wrong freakin' word. I can hold somebody accountable to what their goals are. I'm not accountable holding people accountable to everything in the entire world. That's what people got confused by. You're going to tell me your goals and I'm going to hold you accountable.

To yea, if I come to you with a fitness goal or a nutrition goal and I said, hey, I want to.

Do X, Y and Z, and you go, okay, I want to run a marathon? Great, Great, what's the date? Yeah?

Great, okay, this is our plan. But it's not for every day to day life. Clearly, I make a ton of bad decisions.

Well, it's not bad decisions. You're human being. We make human decisions. We all make. We all fuck up, and that's a matter.

Of It's not about living life of perfection.

You made a boring joke on the pot again recently. Did being called that on RHBH make you change anything about yourself?

You're not boring. I'll tell you that.

I don't think that I'm boring. I truly think that I know she's not boring. My issue was I think I lost my job season two.

I do too.

I think I lost my job season two, and they kept me around for season three and I became a nothing burger and then that was the end. And you can do the math on what happened on season two and figure that out.

I have a smile.

Do you agree?

I already told you how I felt, so I agree. Yes.

If you had the chance to host a morning talk show, what would be your who would be your very first guest, very first say you should do something like that? Oh?

I love. I mean that's why I love to go on all those different those like Extra and all those shows. I love doing it. I love talking pop culture. I can't even help myself, like from needing to know everything about the Justin Baldoni case to what's going on with Diddy? To is you know Justin Bieber okay? Like all of it? Like, I cannot help myself. I cannot get enough. My very first guest, who would it be? It would be who's ever trending in that moment?

And I would want to skuis the limit? Come on?

Sky's the limit?

I'm gonna dream without like boundaries.

If I could do anything, I would want to, like do a day in the life of Jennifer Lopez.

Really why Jennifer?

Because she seems to I mean other than relationships. Yeah, she seems to be able to do everything I want.

I found an incredible career, she has an incredible career.

I know that she's very disciplined, Yes, I know that, but I want to see if there's a fun side. I want to see all of that. Like I'd like to shadow her for a week and see who she really is and then give an expose, right, and see who.

She really is besides being Jennihilippez. Yes, yes, I understand what you're.

Saying, because that I think I could learn from.

You mean, watching someone like that work like that.

Work like that, I can go, oh, Okay, this is what I don't want. This is what I do want. Oh I could do this or no, I absolutely I wouldn't want to live my life working this hard, this much all the time.

She's a very hard worker, very hard work, very hard worker.

But I mean there's so many people.

There's so many people in this business that work hard though. Yeah, there's so many people that work hard in this business that you don't know about.

But I think we don't see a ton of her working. No, see, we don't see a ton of behind the scenes with her. Who else? Give me some other people that like Chelsea Hamler would be fun.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of your the answer to your first question, people Okay, so hear me out. You know reality TV, right, what we do is different than what Jennifer Lopos does. Right, she's like a movie stars as a pop artist signed to major labels and shit like that. That's a different type of celebrity than if you even want to say, like what we have a celebrity. It's a different like leab in the sense that the game that we play in reality television is very different

An example of just that I know firsthand is my dad and I went to an event the other night and I one million percent did the red carpet and he arrived after.

It was done, right, and it was just a different Yeah, like it's it's a different vibe.

I got a plus one if I did the red carpet, right, and I was like, well, I don't want to go alone.

Right, so myself right, But someone like let's just gets to come whenever he wants to come, or let's sake, let's take Jennifer Lopez, like she gets to do the carpets for the movies that are hers and the ones that.

She possibly wants to go to. Yeah, you know, if she wants to. It's a different life. It's a different level. It's a different level.

But if we're talking Bravo people, if there's anybody that I could interview.

We didn't know where.

Not talking about Bravo people, We're talking about anybody. Okay, all right, Brough you gotta think outside of Bravo.

Well that's what That's why I think my answer I stick for a little bit.

I like that, I do.

I mean, or who's somebody hot right now?

I don't know, you know, all the hot dudes. I don't know anybody.

I don't know anyway.

It's not that I don't know, it's that I need to fucking pay attention. I am so wrapped up in my own universe that I must look outward instead of like looking wherever I'm looking, which is like whow okay. Next question questions, if you could trade lives with one housewife for twenty four hours, who would it be? And what's the first thing you do in her shoes?

One housewife for twenty four hours. I'm not going to pick anyone from Beverly Hills because I think that's stale and we already know, we've.

Already been around those women who cares.

But if I could change lives with anybody I feel like, who lives like? You know, who would be? She's not even a housewife anymore. But Caroline Stansbury.

She looks like she has a good ass time to buy. She looks and that.

And her husband, Sergio, he waits on her hand and foot and I saw it.

And every single day they're on a trip somewhere else going she's getting glammed, like she's got her outfits picked.

They are living. That's what I want.

And you know what, it doesn't have to be twenty four hours. I do a week.

Oh you want a week of that?

I don't need a week of him.

I know, I know I'm not talking about him. I just don't like the production, like the whole production. Yeah, and I mean that respectful.

I'm kind of curious who is who would yours be?

She's actually a good one. And you know what, I it's kind of the same thing. It looks real good.

I mean, I'm not going with anybody with kids.

I mean she has kids with their older right.

I don't need smaller children that I need to fight with or schedule or get to a soccer game.

No, that's not my vibes. Your online looks like it's pretty good.

Yeah, she's a pretty good option for us. Anyways, let's go to do be okay.

Wait.

Yeah, By the way, I was with Shep we did upfronts and we were talking about you.

I was like, Teddy and I want to come to Charleston, We really do, and he goes, you guys should come.

What's stopping us? We got to get our act together and go And.

I would love to you let me know, but but you know what, he's he and I spoke about you just like you know, we were just walking and talking.

He's really sweet.

He's a sweet guy.

He's a sweet guy.

He I think just I know that his dad was a lawyer's grandfather was a federal judge, Like they run deep in that law.

Business down there, like his parents.

No, I figured it out, Yeah.

I figured out.

Yeah, No, And I got it from the horse's mouth. So I was like, okay, cool, what is your favorite childhood memory?

My favorite childhood memory? Shit, well, I have two memories that like really stick out, but they're bad. My gosh, why are my memories bad?

Well, sometimes because the human brain etches those in there.

So like one of my childhood memories that like really stands out, we're gonna switch.

It from favorite to stands out.

From favorite to stands out is my dad's first house. So when my dad first his first like big hit was in nineteen eighty one.

That's the year I was borne and Diane. Yeah, so, by the way, it was good. I love those songs.

It's a good jam. But so we switched from like being in a little tiny house to being in this house and I had a circular driveway.

What city are we in?

Indiana? Okay, So we're in the house with the big circular driveway, and anytime that my sister and I would get in a fight, we'd have to run it. God, John's rough run the circular driveway.

That's kind of cute though, but so like I have.

These memories of like looking at my sister and as being like far more and like bringing out ways that we could cross over through the grass, so like I remember that. My other favorite memory was actually the first time I got on a horse.

How were you?

I was four years old? Did you ask my neighbor like where my dad had a like a studio and my neighbor her mom trained Shetland ponies.

Cute, it was a pony.

It was a pony, And I went over and I said can I can I ride? And they said, yeah, we have a new Shetland named TJ. And then he became mine and he was my first pony.

Was he sweet? Because she's going I was gonna say, Shellin's are me?

We have a video of my mom like giving him tap to have him go forward, and he kicked her right in the knee. Knee No, but we have an on video. She's like come on, like she's trying to and you remember those old school videos that you.

Can tell I got out, yeah, PJ? Yeah, how long did you ride? TJ?

I mean I think my second one was fan Seek. Her name was fancy and she was an actual small pony. So I went from the Shetland to once I started being able to like post really ride and stuff, then I switched to fancy. Oh my god, I feel like I could remember all of my ponies and horses in order.

That's do you know how many, just offhand, how many you've had.

In total that I've owned? Probably twenty?

And how many did you ride for clients?

Oh my gosh, hundreds, hundreds, hundreds, Like I have no idea, but I the ones that are special to me. I'll never forget sure, of course. Like there's this horse what goes around that I wrote of my trainers, Don Stewart, and I remember that horse every single day. I love it and we called them with GiMA.

How old were you when you turn pro?

I was seventeen seventeen. Yeah, so there were so many met so many, so many, but gosh, I feel like I went down memory lane. But thanks guys for tuning in for another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. Next week, I'll be taking Erica's questions don't wing.

Thank you guys. Mhm