In this captivating episode, Ashley and Chris sit down with Dr. Jit Hindocha, Principal Dentist at Total Dental Care, celebrating 40 remarkable years in dentistry (1985–2025). Born in Uganda, Jit shares his powerful story of arriving in England at just 10 years old after his family was expelled by Idi Amin, losing everything but holding onto determination and resilience. In this episode you'll learn about: Jit’s early years in Leicester—living with 11 family members in a 3-bedroom house, hustlin...
Jul 01, 2025•41 min•Season 8Ep. 6
After receiving incredible feedback from our listeners, we invited Steve Tangney back for Part Two! If you haven't listened to Part One yet, be sure to check it out here . There, Steve shared his valuable strategies on how to create a world-class team. The exciting news is that we have another inspiring interview for you. This time, Steve focuses on how his practice effectively attracts new patients. He shares numerous ideas that you can implement no matter where you are based. In this interview...
Apr 23, 2025•42 min•Season 8Ep. 5
Steve Tangney qualified in 2008 and moved from his hometown of Cork to work in London. During a period of travelling, he met the love of his life – now his wife – on the Gold Coast, where he also worked for a while. While his time there was influential, it was his experience at Avenue Dental on the Sunshine Coast (Sunny Coast) that made the biggest impact on his professional outlook. The owner’s focus on cultivating a superb team culture stood out to Steve as the secret to their success. In 2017...
Apr 09, 2025•46 min•Season 8Ep. 4
In this insightful interview, Chris and Ashley reconnect with Karl Walker Finch, the proud owner of a dental practice in the Kirklees area of Yorkshire. For the second time, we delve into Karl’s remarkable journey. Setting an ambitious goal, Karl aimed to significantly reduce the carbon footprint of his practice. Astonishingly, he achieved a reduction of over 35% in just the first year! But that’s not all—his practice is now proudly climate-positive. Karl speaks with such passion that you’ll be ...
Mar 01, 2025•43 min•Season 8Ep. 3
After graduating in 2012, Gareth Edwards spent the first 5 years of his dental career by treating patients in Middleton, North Manchester. He then embarked on an 18-month journey through Asia and South America, dedicating time not only to traveling but also to reading a diverse range of books. In 2019, Gareth returned to Bournemouth, his hometown, and formed a partnership with Zak Kara. Sharing similar philosophies about dentistry and business, they initially took over a three-surgery practice. ...
Feb 18, 2025•47 min•Season 8Ep. 2
In this exciting episode of Two Reds Are Better Than One , Chris Barrow and Ashley Latter share their personal and professional aspirations for 2025 within the dental industry. From digital workflows and AI to personal communication mastery, this conversation is packed with insights to help dental professionals navigate the evolving landscape with confidence and agility. Key Takeaways: Digital Dentistry Advancements: Chris and Ashley highlight the game-changing impact of intraoral scanning, trea...
Jan 08, 2025•19 min•Season 8Ep. 1
Today we’re thrilled to introduce you to Amber Aplin, owner of "The Gentle Touch" dental practice in Kelso, Scotland. Amber’s journey is anything but ordinary—born in Australia, raised in the UK, and spending 16 years in Army dentistry before carving out her niche as a practice owner. Her story is one of transformation, innovation, and an unwavering commitment to excellence. In this episode, Amber shares: Her Unique Career Path : From growing up in a military family to studying at Newcastle Univ...
Dec 17, 2024•53 min•Season 7Ep. 12
Anushika Brogan is the owner of Damira Dental Group. After graduating from Kings, Anushika was destined to be an entrepreneur. She quickly purchased her first dental practice in 2003, and Damira was born. Since then, she has expanded the group to 42 locations throughout the UK, including brand new practices specialising in facial aesthetics. She is also the only female CEO of a dental corporate in the UK. You might think that managing a thriving Dental group would keep her busy, especially since...
Oct 21, 2024•41 min•Season 7Ep. 11
Dr. Katie Blake is co-founder with her husband Alex of Blake Dental, in the small market town of Witham, Essex, mid-way between Chelmsford and Colchester. Katie has a special interest in dental implants, not only delivering to their own patients but working in other practices, lecturing, training and mentoring. Alex is a former maths teacher, who has become the Business Manager. They have also created a strong senior management team within the practice, through internal development and promotion...
Sep 17, 2024•45 min•Season 7Ep. 10
Imagine opening a Practice with no social media, prohibited from advertising, not allowed to have a website, plus you are timing this at the start of one of the worst recessions the country has ever known. These were the circumstances faced by Dr. Kieran Daly when he opened his squat Practice in North Dublin during 2007. Fast forward today, 17 years after opening the doors, his Practice employs over 50 people and has expanded to a multi disciplinary Practice, treating patients with Implants, Ort...
Sep 02, 2024•46 min•Season 7Ep. 9
Our second conversation with Dr. Marina Rhode, Founder of DRMR In our first conversation with Manrina we explored the influences from her early life that formed her philosophy and then travelled with her through 18-years as a London-based "career associate", working with some of the top names in the capital. We now explore the vision for and creation of her own clinic and brand - DRMR: How she used pen and paper to jot down ideas during her associate years and developed a vision of the practice ...
Aug 14, 2024•35 min•Season 7Ep. 8
In this episode, we interview Manish Chitnis to discuss his dental practice management software, DenTTrack, a task management software that provides clarity on who does what in a dental practice, including training for each task. Manish explains the importance of internal marketing and utilising the patient database to drive new patients amidst current market conditions. There are two main survivor groups in dentistry: high-end practices focused on excellent patient experiences, and high-volume,...
Jun 24, 2024•42 min•Season 7Ep. 7
If you want to be inspired by the potential of a career in dentistry, no matter what your age or background, listen to the journey of one of the UK’s most interesting dental practice owners. As a child, Manrina Rhode wanted to become an actress, but an enlightened Headmistress saw the opportunity of combining art and science and encouraged her to study dentistry. The UK dental community (and her patients) can be glad that she did. Right at the start of her career, she secured a position with Dr....
May 02, 2024•45 min•Season 7Ep. 6
It’s a delight this month to listen to the founder of a Champions League dental practice in the beautiful Lake District - Neil Cooper has been a friend and a client of both of us for many years. Here, we delve into Neil’s childhood fascination with how things work and an early dedication to a career in dentistry, based on his experiences as a child patient. Following Neil to school, university, early days as a VT and associate, we then discover what happened when he caught the Ownership bug and ...
Apr 23, 2024•56 min•Season 7Ep. 5
An interview with Dengro CEO - Neil Stephen Listeners - if you think this month’s podcast is an advert for Dengro - think again. CEO Neil Stephen has a fascinating CV, including starting and selling a number of international tech businesses over the years, as well as running The London Olympic Beach Volleyball competition in 2012. He “gets” business and speaks with the authority of having worn all the t-shirts in business development over the years. In our conversation we discuss: Why a fascinat...
Mar 26, 2024•50 min•Season 7Ep. 4
This week we interviewed David Taylor, an ex Dale Carnegie International Master Trainer & Leadership Trainer, who shares the benefits of developing a Monthly Action Plan. Many Dental Practices report that finding the right people, retaining them and the paying their true worth challenging, this concept can help in all three areas and can make the Dental Practice a much more productive and a happier environment On this podcast you will discover; What is an 'Action Monthly Plan' and the benefi...
Feb 29, 2024•51 min•Season 7Ep. 3
If you walk round Manchester city centre, you will often see the above statement, ' WE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY HERE' which glorifys Manchester's achievements in the world and why Mancuncians are different. We have tweaked the above statement slightly for our guest today and you will see why when you listen to the interview. Born in Glasgow, Lawrence decided to take some time out to travel the world and then visited Sydney 11 years ago to do some dentistry for several months. He ended up staying an...
Jan 31, 2024•49 min•Season 7Ep. 2
On never giving up (and how to run your business in 60 minutes a month) an interview with Dr Mike Hughes of Deintyddfa Na-Nóg Dental & Implant Team in Bangor, North Wales We begin our new podcasting year with a story of courage and resilience that has led to the creation of an award-winning specialist referral practice in Gwynedd, even though some local councillors and planning officers did their level best to stop the project before it started. Mike Hughes shares his history with us - quali...
Jan 09, 2024•42 min•Season 7Ep. 1
In our final podcast of 2023, there is no guest, instead, we share our highs and lows of 2023 and also why we are so excited about dentistry in 2024. In the interview we discuss; Our highs of 2023 both personally and professionally Chris's calendar management system - how he plans out his year, often several months ahead; How and why he takes 12 weeks vacation every year Ashley's announcement - he is finally taking a short sabbatical Why are they both excited about 2024 in Dentistry AND MUCH MOR...
Dec 20, 2023•36 min•Season 6Ep. 12
Our guest for this month's podcast is dental technician Ashley Byrne - Owner Byrne Dental Laboratory, one of the largest and most advanced in the UK and now part of the European Corus Group. In the first part of our interview, Ashley reviews the opportunity in digital workflow: The sheer magic of IOS; Why using intra-oral scanners can save time, increase staff retention/morale and engage patents in their oral health to an extent never before seen. We also discuss how important it is to advance a...
Nov 30, 2023•40 min•Season 6Ep. 11
S conversation with Lis Hughes - Managing Director - FTA It’s not often that we get the chance to listen to an industry expert sharing with us her view of the dental landscape since lockdown to the present - and beyond. Lis arrived at Frank Taylor Associates in 2008 to deliver some consultancy work - and has stayed there ever since, describing the company as a great place to work with nice people. During our conversation we discuss topics that will be of interest to all existing Owners and equal...
Oct 24, 2023•39 min•Season 6Ep. 10
In this latest episode of 'Two Reds are Better than One' Chris and Ashley interview Peter Thomson. Peter shares many strategies from his latest book 'Paid' Peter Thomson has been in business for over 51 years and he has been in the Personal Development world for 30 years. He has written 15 books, and produced over a 100 business programmes. This episode was a true masterclass in communication, sales and making sure you get richly rewarded for the value you bring to your patients. We strongly adv...
Oct 03, 2023•55 min•Season 6Ep. 9
We asked Claire Nightingale to return as a guest and share with us the pains and pleasure of both buying and selling an orthodontic practice. This interview will help any dentist (specialist or general) who is interested in embarkation (or disembarkation) from Ownership. Claire’s first attempt at Ownership was a painful failure and she explains why - and equally why it was another 9 years before she acquired her own business. In part 1 we talk about that slow journey into Ownership. In part 2 th...
Jul 12, 2023•44 min•Season 6Ep. 8
Ashley and I have known and worked with Gareth and Amanda Small at Helens Bay Dental Practice for so many years that Eddie remembers us as part of their dinner conversation when he and his sister Emily came home from school. Emily is now a dental therapist working in Dubai and Eddie is a dentist who commutes between London and Helens Bay (just outside Belfast) on a weekly basis. In this conversation, we trace Eddie’s life so far (one of our youngest ever guests) from thinking about dentistry at ...
Jun 26, 2023•52 min•Season 6Ep. 7
Have you ever considered what a new patient enquiry is worth to your practice? If a patient is interested in some cosmetic treatments, for example short term orthodontics, bonding, teeth whitening, or implants, each telephone call could be potentially worth thousands of pounds. If a patient is enquiring about just becoming a patient and they join your membership plan, over a ten-year relationship, then they could easily spend several thousands of pounds with you. This is becoming increasingly im...
Jun 05, 2023•45 min•Season 6Ep. 6
One of the biggest challenges Owners and Practice Managers face is creating a highly motivated team that performs at a top level all of the time. A culture in which everyone loves coming to work to do their best, and in which they know they can reach their full potential. A culture that very few practices manage to achieve. Marina and Michael Chan have succeeded within their stunning Dental Practice, Iconic Dentistry & Medispa in Perth in Western Australia. Not only is the interior of the Pr...
May 30, 2023•54 min•Season 6Ep. 5
On this month’s podcast we welcome the former owner of Queen's Gate Orthodontics (South Kensington), Dr. Claire Nightingale - now a part of the Dentex family of practices. We begin by reminiscing that Chris first heard Claire speak at the 2019 BOS annual conference and, thus inspired, he asked for an interview for his own clients in January 2020. Claire shared her commitment to digital workflow and virtual consultation, little realising that, just a few weeks later, we would be plunged into lock...
Apr 20, 2023•51 min•Season 6Ep. 4
In this month’s podcast we interview Chris Ball - Co-Founder of a super-successful private squat in Preston, Lancashire - Dentistry by Cure Clinics. For anyone considering future practice ownership, anyone who has purchased or opened a clinic in the last few years - and for anybody who may have “lost their mojo” - this conversation is a must. Chris shares with us his personal life story and also a detailed account of the planning and execution of the squat opening in May 2022. By the way - the b...
Apr 03, 2023•54 min•Season 6Ep. 3
Karl Walker Finch is our latest guest on the 'Two Reds are Better than One Podcast'. Karl graduated in 2010 in Liverpool and then spent the next 5 years working as an associate on the Wirral before joining Lindley Dental in Huddersfield as an associate who announced on his first day that someday he wanted his own place. Very early on in his career, Karl discovered two passions. His first was for Implants and in 2014 took a Masters in Implantology and the other was that he had an Entrepreneurial ...
Feb 27, 2023•57 min•Season 6Ep. 2
This month we meet with Lisa Catto, founder of www.thebusinesscatlayst.co.uk And creator of: https://idealpatientjourney.com/ who talks to us about the three critical results of the work she does for dental practices: Saving time; Getting organised and Growing sales. Nothing to not like there. Lisa has run her own businesses since the age of 19 and has a bewildering CV that includes: Turning a roller-skating rink into a rave venue; Running an animation art gallery in central London; Pioneering c...
Feb 06, 2023•41 min•Season 6Ep. 1
