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¶ Courtney's Watch What Happens Live Debut
Welcome back to Two Judgy Girls. This is Mary from the Bay.
And it's Courtney from The Big Cite. Hi Mary.
Ooh, look at that ride. New Yorker, you had
New York New Meat.
You had quite a night. Tell us everything. This is the first time I'm hearing about all the details from Watch What Happens Live. Take me through it, girl.
Let me just tell you guys it exceeded all expectations. My first time, hopefully not my last time. Hopefully maybe it's behind a bar next time, but bangers can't be choosers. I will take another audience seat anytime. But let me tell you what a time was had.
Tell us everything I want to know about you. Like your outfit. Get in there. What drinks did you have? Tell me it all.
¶ WWHL Pre-Show Stress and Prep
All right, I will tell you guys I broke out into stress hives before I even left my hotel to go there, okay? We were I was like editing stuff. I was working and then I was also trying to get ready because you had to be there we uh you had to be there by like five PM, right? And like I was stressed because
You also just don't know I was like, oh, okay, it's only like a twenty-five minute walk. Like that's not bad. But then I was wearing these heeled boots and I w and it's cold. And so I was like, okay, I'll take an Uber. And of course my Uber got stuck in like bad traffic. So I did I eventually have to get out and walk. It was fine. But you just I just don't know
Stressful getting there at
I break out into stress hives all over my face. I'm like texting my friend. I'm like, this is crazy. I am having a crazy allergic reaction right now. Like my entire face is like A th thirteen year old boy going through puberty at that point. Like there is bumps everywhere. I'm sorry, I'm sorry to stress out about the shingles. So anyway, so I'm like rushing and I like send Mary this photo. I'm like, This is what I'm wearing. Is it okay? And she's like, Well and I was like,
No, I didn't say well. I said I said I like the skirt and the boots and then you realize I wasn't saying anything mean, you know, and then you're you
Look my best for because you I was like, I'm just going and being in the audience, no big deal. And you were like, But what if this is your T V debut?
I I knew it would be Courtney. I knew it would be.
Okay, so my stage momager, Katie, one of my best friends, she was my plus one for the event. And she like I'm just like terrible with like de I'm not terrible with details, but like she is great with details. She's great with details. So it was like as soon as like I like gave her email address as well for details, I signed off. She was like, Did you fill out the questionnaire to ask a question? You can pre-submit questions. I was like,
Where was that? She's like, in the email. I was like, oh, I just looked at where I need to be and at what time. I looked at no other details, you know. She's like, no, you have to submit something. I really don't know what to ask. Like I don't know what to ask. I guess we're Gina and Chriselle. And it's after the OC finale, but like also I haven't seen the OC finale at that point. So like I wasn't sure like what to ask. And it's like
I was like, do I ask her like did somebody ever throw you a party? Like you wanted that Shannon did like gem, but then you know, whatever. But then I was like, okay, I'll just like ask something silly because I doubt that they'll pick me. So it'll just satisfy Katie, let her know I did it.
¶ Inside the Clubhouse Experience
And then we like go on our merry way of having a great time there, you know? And so we get there. And you guys, this space is like it's small, right? So it's like very intimate. There's twenty guests there and they when you first go you go into this little kind of like holding area like green room and they have a bar and they have props and like photo ops and so you can you know everyone's mingling and just like having a good time because everybody also is like very excited to be there.
I mean, I feel like the clubhouse is the ultimate place to watch. Like we've been to watch what happens live in LA and it was like at a huge auditorium. I've been to the one in Vegas. But like the clubhouse is intimate. It's like you you see when the husbands and you're like, there's like 18 people in the audience. Like it's tiny.
I mean it's two rows of people and then I'll get I'll get to those
The front row? No.
Oh.
Um
their question.
Yes.
You get to pick where you sit, like when you file in, no, they tell you that
Randomize it and they put you and they kinda horseshoe you in a line just to make it like easier, which is great. You know, it's very sea. They have it down. Sure. Like sure. I mean it's been years, but they have it like down. So you're in there and you're like mingling and talking to people and you're getting drinks. They give you two drink tickets if you want to use them. So like
Is there a bartender?
Yeah, somebody's like pouring the drinks. Um and what'd you get my first drink? I get a cranberry vodka'cause they didn't have tonic. I'm usually like a vodka tonic splash of crayon. There was no tonic. I do not like soda water, I think. So I'm just drinking that. And then
¶ The Audience Question Selection
you know, w somebody comes in and they're like, Oh, you know, does anybody wanna ask uh Chriselle a question? And she's like, Okay, and then I'm talking and I was like, Oh no, I'm okay. Like I you know, I submitted a question for Gina, no big deal. You know, whatever. She's like, Oh, are you Courtney by chance? I'm like, Yeah. She's like, Okay, great. Your question got chosen, you're gonna ask. I'm like, Oh dear God
Like the hives came back immediately.
Literally I start to like freak out a little bit because I'm like, no, no, no, I'm always behind I'm
I'm radiant.
Yeah. Some radio.
I'm I'm in your ears, okay? I'm not in your face, I'm in your ears.
This would fucking stress me out. I mean, this is all this is live.
We would get stressed out. Remember when you were going to like Countess Luann, you'd be like, What what do I ask? Oh god, oh god, no, you ask it, no, you like it's just there's like a it's like a public speaking thing, you know? It's a weird just like feeling. So I'm like, oh my god. So I'm drinking this cramer. By the way, the outfit that I'm wearing is like an oversized
Cream sweater with like a cream silk, like mi uh short skirt, tights and boots. Okay. So I'm like, I can't drink this cranberry. Knowing me, I will spill it all over myself, you know? And I'm already talking to Katie. My friend Katie, by the way, who is like a petite, she's Five inches shorter than me, whatever. I go, if anything happens, we are switching. And she says, I I will do that for you.
And I'm like, and it's gonna look like a crop top sweater on me. Like she's in a fitted sweater, you know? And I'm like laughing, like, oh my God. I'm just, you know, I'm going through every scenario in my head as if like this is the most important day of my life. And it was so far, okay?
Could you imagine though, if you had to ask the question with cranberry stained all down your cream sweater like?
I literally would have been like, somebody just throw their drink on me so I can say it's a design. Like I'm wearing tie dye or something. I don't know, you know.
Would have been Coming out of my skin. I would like the adrenaline would be flying through me. I'd be like getting so hyped out. Yeah.
I was getting nervous because then I'm like, also, by the way, like, I'm not knocking myself, but I was not feeling like I was looking good. Do you know what I mean?
No, no.
There are times where I like walk out of the house. I'm like ten out of ten. Right. Like this, I was like, my hair m I I didn't have time to even like really do my hair. I clipped it like in a half up, half down. So then I'm like, Oh my god. So I'm like running into the bathroom to be like, does Does this face look decent for my five seconds of TV? Where you like whatever.
Um, so then we go in and they like file us into the seats. And so we're like in the top row in the middle. And by the way, the audience, where do you think that the audience would be? What do you mean? So like you have Andy's chair and then you have the guest chair. We're actually directly in front of the guests. For some reason I always kind of thought that Andy and the guests and then you're like right in front of both of them.
Before.
Yeah, so we took some we took some pics. I didn't have like as great of an angle'cause I was kind of behind the camera guy. So Katie has them. I actually need to ask them the ask her for those and I'll post some of those. Um
¶ Andy Cohen Recognizes Two Judgy Girls
Once it goes once it airs. But so then like Andy comes out and before the show starts, he'll come and he'll do like a Q and A with the guests just to like get everyone excited, which everyone's already very excited. We're talking Bravo Con. We're just like happy to be there. And, you know, the girl tells us before, hey, Andy's gonna come out to who has questions. So my friend Katie goes and asks a question first and is like, What's up with um Manhattan Millennials or, you know, the Spin off.
And he's like, Oh he's like, Oh, it's looking good. And then she's like, What's the premiere date? And he's like, Uh, well, no, I can't tell you that. Like she almost got him for a second, like
So then like I think someone else asked the question and then it's kind of like a lull. Like and you know how some people are probably because it's not like you have an order. So I think some people were just like waiting to see if like someone else was going to ask. But it was like it's like a lull that was like.
Raise your hand or do you like stand up? You raise your hands like a teacher. Mm-hmm.
He's the teacher. There's not even Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Mr. Cohen, pick me. Yeah. So then I like raised my hand and he's like, Yeah and I and I was like, Oh, for Halloween, what are you, Ben and Lucy going to be? Cute question. I thought of it off the top of my head.
Very cute.
question because I feel like everything's always Bravo related, you know? And so then he like stops for a second and he looks at me, Mary. And he like points to me and he's like, Who are you? Mary Duh.
Dying. It's like my face would be as red as a tomato. Like
I'm Courtney. Oh, I I'm from Two Judgy Girls. And he's like, Yes. And he was like Mary, he's like, You had that man of the year contest. I was like, Yes, March Madness. And he's like, Yes, March Madness. Mary, was there anyone else in the room at this point? I have no idea. It was Andy and I, okay?
And then he's like and I said, Andy, this could be your year. And he's like, No, I'm too old. And I'm like, the photos that you submit and he like gives a look. I'm like, not you submitting. Darren submits on your behalf to be fair. And he's like, yes, thank you. And I was like, but those were great photos. Like I'm setting the scene now, like we've got months to you know, like it could be your year.
Get the campaign going.
Like laughed it off. Yeah, like like he just kinda like laughed it off, you know. And then he's like, Oh, so like are you going to BravoCon? And like we're like having a full combo now. I'm dying, Mary. I'm like, oh my god. By the way, you guys, he looks fantastic in person. Like we were Katie and I were like, he looked
so good. The flow in his hair, he was wearing kind of this like maroon suit. Like he looked so good. And then he's like, Oh, are you going to Bravo Con? I'm like, Yeah, I'm going to Bravo Con. And he's like, Well you kind of have to'cause right? Like'cause it's like kind of like your job and and I go
Oh no. I go.
If you love what you do, you never worry.
Stop. Courtney. What did you say? What did he do?
I was a joke. And he's like It's so true. And then he's like, by the way, then he goes, You look like Casey Wilson. Like you remind me of Casey Wilson who has bitch sesh, the the other podcast. And I'm like, I do get that. I get that a lot. And he's like, And you're both beautiful. I'm like, Oh my.
My God.
Stop. Stop. Courtney. Courtney. Andy Crowen called you beautiful. Yes.
I know. I I you guys, I am like I'm happy out of this. How many of this? Not this part, but she was like like we were just like elbowing each other, like, Are you freaking kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? Like he knows who I am like he he recognized me. Like we're like weird like I you guys and I know this sounds so silly, but this is like a big moment, you know? So then the show goes
Courtney. I mean he one, he recognized you. Two, he called you beautiful.
Oh then he looked at Katie wondering if she was you. She's like, I'm not Mary Like she's like hi I was like, No, this is Katie my plus one like
Did he ever answer your Halloween question?
¶ Courtney's Live Question on WWHL
Oh yes, sorry, sorry. Yes. So then he shows he actually brings his phone out and shows them in their costumes. It was so cute. Like it was a really sweet moment. It's like it's very interesting too, like the dynamic'cause it's it just rolls through. Like they do a commercial break, you know, they're just they like roll through. It's thirty minute show, you know, but really what I don't know.
22 minutes.
Yeah, exactly. So about halfway through, like they call me up. They're like, Okay, you're gonna ask your question now. So guys, if you haven't watched it, it's around the halfway mark of the episode. And when I get up there, first off, IR Madison is also sitting behind me. He is friends with Christelle and he is like really good friends with Watrick Krappens guys. And we like went to some event years ago and Ben hosted everybody before.
I think it was Countess Luann. Like I'm having kind of trouble remembering exactly
Mm-hmm.
Neither of us could remember what it was because I was like, was it I pretty sure it was? And I was like, Yeah. So I was like, it's just nice to see you, whatever. So that's like Katie was getting photos of that of like me talking to him because I was just like, you know, like I'm on a high right now. Who am I? Don't know her. Don't
Well everyone knows you in there, all twenty people.
Yeah. Well, Mary, just wait. You're gonna die. Because b by the way, guys, we're recording this prior to all of this being seen, so she's gonna have to watch this after like she'll be watching this after. We have to get you have to give on Monday your live reaction.
Okay, okay.
So I go up there, I'm standing up there because they're like, Okay, when we come back from break, you're gonna ask your question. And Andy will like introduce you, whatever. So I go and I stand up there and he looks over and he like Oh, like oh you're the one who's gonna be asking a question. I'm like
Oh my gosh.
Just by the way, you guys, Gina and Christal look so frickin' good. Whatever Gina's doing, we'll get to the reunion looks. This look I mean look fantastic. Okay. Like I
All these people in real life are even more gorgeous. Like the cameras don't do it justice. That like I n I honestly Erin Erin La Leeche Leiche what what whatever her name is. The most beautiful person I've ever seen in real life.
No, so then he comes back and he's like, Okay, we have an audience question. He's like, Okay, and it's Courtney from Los Angeles and so I like look at him and I like look at them like Hi guys you'll see it obviously, so I might be retelling it differently. Sorry, this is I blacked out, okay? I don't
Of course.
Of course. And he was like, And where are you from? And I go, Oh, I'm from two judgy girls. And he goes, We love you.
My God. Oh my god. We made it. Cordy, we made it. Thank you.
I was like, Oh my gosh. So then he's like, Your question's for Gina? I'm like, Hi Gina And I said, Hi everyone, like everyone looks stunning, like ten out of ten, you guys look fabulous. Like, thanks. And like Gina, Shag Mary Kill. Late Smiley, Jens Ryan, or like John Jansen.
And what it what was?
Then she's just like, oh like
Tough.
Stop. She killed John and then she married Ryan and then she said she'd shag some Slade, you know,'cause to figure out what it's all about because he's kinda like the husband. And I said, and I I wonder if they'll like cut my part out from this or whatever. And I go, Well, we all know it's crooked.
Courtney, that's amazing. That's amazing. Did they laugh?
Yeah, uh I don't know if they heard it'cause everybody was like kinda talking at the same time. So I probably shouldn't have said anything. I probably should have just shut my mouth and let her answer or whatever, but I I couldn't help myself.
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And that was it. And then I basically I went back to my seat. It was quite the experience. Like wow, whatever. And then you'll see, like I you might be able to see us like when they show if they show like the audience because um Trisha Paytas was the bartender um and her husband and Ira were sitting kind of like wherever I guess like the guests would sit of like the guests, right? Like if the house husbands are there, they have like their own row in front of people, like just like a kind of like
Armless love seat that they sit on. And so like we're like kind of right behind there. So you like might see me randomly, might see Katie. And Katie's like laughing. She's like, At like one point I look over at like the monitor and I am like beaming, like watching you. Like I can see myself in the background, like oh my god, well how did I look? I was wearing that terrible sweater.
Here look.
¶ Post-WWHL Excitement and Impact
I cannot wait to watch it. I cannot wait. This is big time. You're putting TJ G on the map, baby.
Yeah. And so then and then I like DM both Gina and Andy after just being like I said, you know, thank you to Andy and he like liked my comment, so I'll take the like and then I DMed Gina, like, thanks for answering my question. She's like, I'm still threeling from that question. It was gre like that's like it's kind of a crazy experience.
Courtney, I mean you're tearing.
Vive Daby
You a a one-on-one with Andy essentially in front of a group. He called you beautiful. I mean, come on. I mean I really I'm I'm I'm really really think
You're manifesting.
No, we're gonna be bartenders uh this market.
Okay. Like well, so here's what's funny is before I asked my question, Andy to like Trisha was like, you know, I think we're gonna get a lot of draw like a lot of DMs about you being behind the bar and not in the seat. You know, as a guest. And I almost was gonna say, Trisha, when you're in that seat, we'll take your spot as bartenders. But I was like, Courtney, relax. Relax.
You're you're like, um, well you can put three seats out and I'll be the bartender. You're like, I'll take off this uh this cream sweater.
Literally Katie, give me your sweater! I'm forever thankful to have that. Like, how do I top it? I mean, the only way to top it is to be bartenders and then to be the guest at some point, you know? I mean
You've peaked. You've peaked right now just Just enjoy the moment, savor it in because in two weeks, BravoCon's coming up and and I think you're gonna even have a something a little bit more going on. So it's exciting times for two Judge Girls. This is our year, baby.
Air five. Okay, well let's take a break and then let's come back and talk some OC.
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¶ Halloween Costume Mishap
Before we actually get started in OC, I did have a question for you. It is Halloween today. Where are we with the costume?
Oh Courtney, I I I don't know.
Like
Yeah.
e it's not done. Um
Oh no!
Yeah. I mean, Michael's been staying up till two thirty in the morning. It's like freaking nuts. I mean, I I am I'm not even talking to him about it because I'm so frustrated. Like I'll let you guys know the final I'm I'm sure it will come together. Um for the one photo that we're gonna take in it. And um You know, I don't think it was worth the thirty hours, but
Ha ha
Well, we've already said November one, we're putting him to work for some other things. So Right. He better get it done'cause it's by the time it turns midnight for November one, talk about turning into a pumpkin.
Right.
It's over.
It's really nice that there's actually a deadline and like there'd be no point to continue finishing it because he's never gonna wear it.
He'll outgrow it by Sunday. He'll outgrow by Sunday. He's v I mean, he probably should let a little out for the fact that by the time he wears he's probably gained another pound.
It's essentially a mask made on a 3D printer. So he's reprinted it three times because. The head is his Charlie's head's so big and he's like measured it, but it won't fit. Also, why would a three month old wear a mask? Like that's gonna cover his face.
So I see that there's tension. Let's move on.
¶ RHOC Reunion Fashion Critique
Okay, let's talk the reunion looks. Who is your personal fave?
My personal faves are honestly, this is one of their best reunion looks. Like OC does not usually do a cohesive, like Style or color, whatever it is. And this is we're doing a lot of reds, marons, pinks. My tops are actually Emily and Gina.
Okay, fair. I I'm obsessed with Gina's and Katie's. Gina is wearing a maroon, it's like a bodysuit corset with like a skirt over it.
Kate Jen's is kind of like it's like Emily is P G and then like Jen's is the P G thirteen version of it.
Sure, sure.
You know, like they're kind of wearing very similar I mean, everyone looks fantastic. I will say the one miss is probably Shannon for me, and it's the hair of the dress combo. I think if Shannon's hair was down It would look better.
The dress is not flattering, I would say. We really channeled Lucille Ball all season. I feel like Lucille Ball would wear this dress. Um
I think the dress is flattering on her. It's like a fit and flare, but not for this reunion. Like this is like she's almost like That prairie outfit that she wore at a Tamra's house for the cake making thing, for the spring fling that she was thought she was looking like a whore and I was like, I don't see that, but okay. And the hair. It's kind of like where Gretchen is like very toddlers and tiara is like on stage. Like Shannon is like dressed to go to the event of toddlers and tiara.
I mean I I mean Tamar Tamra got something right because this is Todd Later's anti Arist for uh Gretchen. Yeah.
I actually I think we I mean Gretchen literally wore like a gold version of this for the after show, like similar hair to like when she finds a style she likes, she said, get it in every color.
Right. Also, I think Shannon liked the red dress with the red shoes. And yeah, it's it's the hair too. She likes
loves a tight pony for the pony facelift, you know?
Right, right.
And always I kinda play. in the sense of like this like mother of the bride bridesmaid's dress. She always looks fantastic, but it's nothing special from her.
I I also feel like she took a lot of fashion risks this season. I'm obsessed with her outfit when she spreads her dad's ashes. I would love to recreate that look for BravoCon.
Oh I love that's a great idea. So it's a kind of like a Britney Spears with a high boot. You've got like a little girl skirt.
But it's like edgy.
Yeah, with
Hers is more edgy, yeah. Um, I think she looks freaking adorable in that. And I feel like we saw her in a lot more color this season. Mm-hmm. I think she had a great fashion sense this season. Um
Fashionable in general, but usually it's a kind of some form of black. But yeah, I would agree with your disappointment on this, just because it's just there. Like it feels like I could buy this on Lulu's and no hate to Lulus. It's just great. You know, there's nothing she looks great, but nothing like nothing like where I see Gina in the same color and like, Oh damn. You look good. Whatever you're doing, keep doing.
Freaking fantastic. Emily looks freaking fantastic. I really like her dark hair.
It's a little too much extension for me with the hair, but overall I think her face is also softer.
Mm-hmm.
Like she loves, you know, the she loves a a thick eyelash and it looks like she just got a little softer. She's also I think she's lost some weight since the show too. Um and the red looks really nice on her. This is a win for Emily for me.
Mm-hmm.
What do you think about Tara?
I think she I actually think this is one of her best looks. This hair color on her makes her look softer. We know she's not, but it does make her look softer. It's kind of like a pink toga, like it would fit in at Alexia's narcissist party. Mm-hmm.
Totally in white.
Yeah. Uh yeah. I think but I think she looks overall good. It's better than her. I have silver outfit.
I have to say she does look nice.
Mm-hmm.
Mm. Katie Katie has one of the best fashion senses too. I really like this pink look on her as well.
I think it's really fun. It's like s it's it feels very reunion. It hits all the right curves.
Showing up.
I love that. Yeah. I love that.
Whereas then you have like Gretchen where it's like Why?
No toddlers and tears. That's a miss.
Yeah, just fine. It's fine. Anyways.
¶ Tamra's Influence and Blogger Ties
The reunion trailer looks insane. Like I like we've said before, like we don't even know what's happening in this Tamara Grudge. How long did it take us to get to that point? It's been nineteen seasons and we've never called her Tamara Grudge. Hilarious.
So when I watched it last night, I texted you and I said, Tamara's done. Uh to me, this is like This is
Very Lisa Reno. I
I hated this episode.
Yeah. No, but I think I don't think she's done But we said this last week. Like we said, why are they sitting on this information for so long if they've had it? And then we come to find out it's been sat on for over a year. It's like all of this stuff, it's like it's very
Yeah. J.
I said last week, I said it's weird that she told Gina and not Heather.
Well, we say we think she's set like Gina's gonna be the mouthpiece. It's interesting how she does that. So yeah, I think we're kind of like this whole thing, there's some strategy behind it, which no one does it like Tamra Judge. But it's also very much, okay, you guys all yell at Katie for the bloggers, blah, blah, blah. And like we find out that the like Tamara's literally knee deep in all of it.
Which just keeps me believing when it comes back to like Salt Lake City too. It's like you guys all now maybe I don't know to the degree of you all talk to the account. Right. You're all involved some way.
Especially because it's like two teas in a pod started when Tamara was not filming. And, you know, they've been a hugely successful podcast. So she definitely I think even like aligned herself more with podcasters, bloggers, and it's like she became part
One of us.
Well, she became on this side too, you know? Right. So and obviously she's in on a lot of the Bravo stuff. She's friends with the talent. Like she's getting more inside scoop. So I think she like really blurred these lines.
Um, I agree with you.
And Like that's what we're watching play out. And then she's the her blaming IHR is
She's done that. Remember after the hot tub she shows Jen. Hey, iHeart reached out. Now I don't doubt that iHeart gives them headlines to talk about or whatever, but then I'm like You guys have to kind of do the research after it, right? So like once that headline comes out, you either decide if you're gonna talk about it or not, I assume. Like
Because you're not gonna read a headline. I don't listen, so I'm not sure how it works with like how they announce headlines or discuss it or if these are just become talking points for them. But you do have to know the subject matter, right? If you're gonna talk about something. Or you could be like us and just wr makeup conspiracies.
You know?
All vibes no evidence.
¶ Shannon's Body Image Insecurities
Yeah, let's start from the beginning. Okay, so Shannon's hitching up her sping. Do you think Shannon wears songs? That came across my head last night.
Well, it depends what kind of spanks she's wearing. These were tights, so I think that there were was I think she's doing maybe even like a full butt with like a little bit of a butt pad. Oh I don't think she's wearing underwear when she's wearing her regular Spanx and she goes crotchless because she talked about that in Mexico. Mm-hmm. I don't know.
I think in this instance she was wearing a thong.
No agree. I feel like we should move past this.
Ha ha
Um
The worst part is we have to move past this to then see FaceTiming with Slade. It's like we get it, you guys have sex with cr with Slade's crooked dick. Congrats. We're excited for you guys. And she's like, I'm just like, I feel like when I was doing this, it was lethargic. And he's like, You mean cathartic? I'm so stupid.
¶ Emily and Shane's Family Dynamics
Let's talk about this because Emily's reaction's really interesting to me. So Emily gets a call from Shane and Shane's basically said like I snapped because Luke wasn't being like he he was just being difficult. And instead of like Emily saying, like, Shane, I'm so sorry, like you you're a good dad, like we can do this. She's like, what do you want me to do? Like she almost attorns it that she's the victim in this. Did you feel that way?
No. It was like Luke wasn't doing his homework. He wasn't he decided he wasn't going to soccer. He started throwing food. I feel like he's probably at his peak of his the diagnosis and all all of this stuff that they're dealing with and like, yeah.
You do have a
And Shane hit his and was like called Emily and He I think he also called Emily to say like I kinda lost it on them. Um like That and like he almost like wanted To say, like, it's okay, I do that too. Like, you're gonna hit your breaking point, like it's really hard. And and then I think.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think she reacted the way he wanted. He did like there was the reaction that he got from her, I feel like she was like, What do you want me to do? I'm a different country, whereas he was looking for like I feel terrible and I don't know what to do. Like I accidentally snapped and like I just like he was looking for support as opposed to being like, and what am I supposed to do?
That's what I mean. And I was like, I don't think she reacted correctly. And then later she was like, Oh, and then he sends me pictures of the kids and that's his way of saying sorry. So I'm like, maybe he snapped at her, like, You need to come home, I can't handle this but we didn't hear that part. Do what happens on their wife swap episode next week.
¶ Shrooms, Swings, and Trippy Fun
Not interested. So I know Courtney, you would want to be in on this adventure because Heather, Gina, and Shannon get to do a little bit of shrooms. And Heather gives out the perfect amount to everyone. You know she had that scale.
Mm-hmm. I this I mean, do I want to go swing on a rooftop or have shrooms with my best friends, Heather, Gina, and Shannon, who I know I'm gonna have a blast with? Absolutely.
Do you think you could have done the swing?
Yeah, the swing would have been fine. I actually don't know if I could do the maze because it felt claustrophobic.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Well and then also I thought it was funny too is that they take shrooms and then Shannon also orders a vodka a vodka soda. And then when they were doing when they were talking about the Real Housewives music, in the when we saw the trailer for this and they did that before, I thought literally someone was playing a prank on them and all three of them were hearing the music. Come to find out it's just Shannon in her head.
So good. It was also it would be very trippy for you to go in this maze and then there's photos of you not looking like yourself. That would be kind of scary.
Like a nice AI. I mean Heather looking like the old lady when they were like, that's Heather's biggest fear, looking old. I was giggling because yeah, like you're tripping on shrooms, they're having like a silly high, and then they see these photos being like,
That's weird. The front the first photo though where Shannon saw her face on like a mannequin was hilarious because she's just laughing like, what the hell? And then the images pop up on the wall and I'd be like, oh God. Oh God. What's happening?
I actually felt like Shaden looked kinda good in some moments. Like that those like glamour shots. I was like that's that's a look that you could pull off actually, honey.
Her and Gina, as Heather said, her and Gina looked great. Why is she old?
Right, yeah.
They did they did Heather Dirty, that's for sure. Okay, so then we we have um the other car is is Gretchen, Tamra, Jen, and Emily. And when they're like riding over to do the swings
¶ The "Biscuit" Fat-Shaming Incident
They are talking about how Shannon is a hard lay. And they talk about how her Spanx is just like redistributing the fat. And then they make this joke about how when she takes off the Spanx it's like a biscuit like popping. Now
Like biscuits. Yeah.
I hysterically laughed at that because as a girl that wears Spanx, it does feel like that sometimes, you know?
It's an eight pound bag of sausage and a five pound bag, right? Like we are trying to just It's like I we know we're still round, but we don't need to be lumpy and bumpy Larsa and we wanna be s just we wanna be just smooth and round, not lumpy and bumpy.
Right. So I I did like take note of this. I was like
Oh.
Is this good? This fuel.
Yeah, I was like, I'm kind of surprised they said this. I mean it's funny, but I'm kind of surprised they said it. What did you think?
Uh I thought e yes, but then they were also like Shannon's just so funny. Like they were also like complimentary to her, but I do see like This is one of her biggest insecurities. So knowing like that people were talking about that, like that may it's kind of I mean, truthfully it's kind of similar to like the Mary and Farts story where she's like, Just don't talk about my farts on like the Obviously that conversation is funny, but what she was saying is like don't embarrass me on camera.
Yeah.
And so that's where I was like, okay. I I could see like Shannon being like, okay, you guys know I'm struggling right now.
Right, right. Okay. Then After the swings there is
Do you want to swing, by the way? Would you swing?
I think I... Do it. I think I could do it. It it would really freak me out though. It looked it looked scary.
But do them putting yeah, them putting Tamara and Gretchen together like kind of made me laugh because I'm like, they are just like the group dynamics are so funny. It's like they hate each other, but then they'll play along for a minute and then they're gonna like go ahead and get drinks and they're gonna write a friend contract all on Nini and Cynthia.
I I cannot take them apologizing again and again and again. Like Gretchen's like
Mm.
It's done.
It's so done. Like Gretchen's like, I just thought like You know, You should apologize now that you've gone through something similar as me. Like you were so mean to me during my husband's cancer.
um time.
I it's just too much. It's bad.
Well it's also like you're bringing up another thing now, Gretchen, too, is like, okay, so now because it's Teddy you want Tamra to be softer, but then it's also like Slade couldn't get a job because of Tamra. Like all these things, it's like
Now granted, as someone who's also a hypocrite and moves goalposts all the time, I get it. But when you were watching these shows, it's like, oh, another thing that Tamara has done to you, and you're like, bitch, it's not even the worst part yet. You just wait. You just freaking wait, Gretchen, because it's coming. Did you also notice too Gretchen was the only one who drank who ordered an actual drink and everyone else ordered Diet Coke?
Ew, grey groove spite? Uh nasty.
So then, you know, we're gonna they're gonna chat GBT I mean, is chat GBT a sponsor of this uh this episode we've chat GBT up multiple times. She's gonna create a contract and there is a slade clause. And you know what? I would be fine if we never had to mention Slade again.
I would be fine if Tamara and Gretchen never filmed together again. Yeah.
Yeah, I wanna get your opinions at the end too, obviously of like where you lie with the cast of okay.
¶ Heather's Emotional Farewell to Her Dad
So then we kind of gotta set up the scene. Of, you know, we have everyone comes back and we we're all breaking off into into teams to kind of recap and then reset and then prepare. Gina and Tamra are walking together. Gretchen and and Shannon are walking together. Gretchen Tell us it's kind of funny. Gretchen tells Shannon she's got something to tell her, but we never see her tell her as if like the big bomb about the spank stuff is going to like really ruin the day, you know?
I'll write it right.
set the scene for the attack later. But Tamara and Gina, they're starting to talk about the posts. We're not gonna pretend she's a good person. You know, Gina keeps bringing up the posts. At this point, show us the post.
Yeah, they they never do.
You know, Gina's saying she's like, look, I'm not Tamara's pawn. I'm gonna bring it up because it bothers me.
Right.
There. Then we've got Heather and Emily. I actually thought this I was like this actually was a very interesting pairing to me.
Okay. I I was like shocked by this entire scene. Like, first of all, that we uh okay, the whole Heather and her dad thing, it feels a little strange'cause of the timing. But I loved this scene. And Heather is talking to to Emily about how she's like envious of her kids' relationships with with Terry. Like it's just so nice to see and she she really didn't have that. And, you know,
She does believe her dad did the best he could. And, you know, they're they're about to have this like crazy moment. And then the man that owns the house walks out and gives them this like beautiful tour. So, so sweet. And then Heather has this private moment. And Her narrating out.
Loud.
was super interesting.
I thought it was funny. It was like you couldn't tell Emily before she sat down that you wanted a private moment. like shuffling her body over on the cement like five feet so Heather could have her moment of talking out loud. It wa I mean it was a nice moment, but I will agree with you, it's kind of wild that she was like narrating to us.
I know. She's like, I know you did the best you could and you love me and I hope you're at peace drinking a class glass of Cabernet and hopefully smoking again, you know? I love you, Dad and and bye. And she just I was hysterically crying and she's like, I just feel like I set it free and it really like me set set myself free as well, you know? Um, and she puts them in the canal and it was very sweet. I I I can't knock it. I can't knock it. Okay.
You have a question though. Is it legal to put ashes in the canal? You know, like here it's like not legal to like put ashes I wanna say like in the ocean or like there's like I was wondering, I'm like it must be, it must be but also
They probably got the permit to do it. Like I know if you like sprinkle someone like in the bay, I I don't think you can like do it in like Tahoe or anything. There there's there's procedures. To do that stuff.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. I did think about that though. I was like, this is a nice moment. Can she do this? I mean I would assume so like you said, because obviously it's filmed, so but I did think about that. And Emily and her connect and she's like, I could feel what you said, like I love you, they have a really nice moment. I thought this is a good way to end this storyline. I know it's her life, but like we've we've tied a bow on this and nobody ate a piece of it. That's a throwback.
Okay, shall we take one more break?
Yes.
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¶ Shannon Confronts Her Body Shamers
Okay. So Heather fills in everyone the story of her her, you know, doing the ashes for her dad. And then we have to find out that Gretchen told Shannon about the fat shaming. And the the fat pops out of the biscuit. And Shannon's like, you know, I can make fun of myself, but like Emily, you had all these issues last year. Like, what the hell? You know? And
Basically, Emily saves it pretty well. She's like, Shannon, you are so funny. We think you're hilarious. We really Joking around and It and then in in the middle of it, Gretchen's like, No, no, no, no, no and Emily's like Gretchen, shut up. Like, stop calling this shit out. I will lose.
Use it on you.
You're not gonna have me go against Shannon. She is my actual friend. I would never fat-shamed someone. I was fat-shamed last year. Like we were just being funny. It's not that deep. And I think Shannon did a good job handling this also. Like she was like pretty Like you saying that, and you know, this is an insecurity, and like I'm glad I can confront you, and we can talk about it and like move forward. I thought she handled it well.
Well, I I agree. And then she gets up though and the tag to her skirt is sticking out and they all just like laugh at her like that is so shana. She's like going to the bathroom'cause she's probably trying to like compose herself because, you know, again, we said it's like one of her bigger insecurities. And I love too'cause Emily is like Gretchen, shut up because you have no idea what's coming tomorrow. Mm-hmm. Like
¶ The Final Dinner and Season End Cards
So this is like and I can't blow it for you right now, but let me just I'm pissed. I am pissed. So then we go to day we're day four. It's like, oh my god, these days are so long.
We see Lucille Lucille Ball. She really is working her paycheck here on that bike.
Like this city takes biking so seriously. Like they're all so worried about getting on their bikes. Gina yesterday already said I don't want a bike, I'm not good at it. But they have a little picnicky where they are talking the Lance Armstrong, Neil Armstrong joke that did make me laugh.
Mm-hmm. So then they are writing, they do their picnic, whatever. Then we've got also like we're making waffles. I have to tell you, I just like literally don't care about this day. Like take me to the dinner at night.
Yeah. I I the only thing that was interesting this day was like Jen saying, you know, I get really in my head with Ryan. Like I know Ryan had a super colorful past and I'm just like worried, am I gonna be enough? You know, is he still gonna be into me when I'm seventy? And I thought that was like a vulnerable answer and I like what Shannon said about it. She's like, We're all divorced divorced women. Like that is something that comes across our mind, you know?
Um but I think Tamar gave her good advice. Like get your finances in order. You don't need a man. Like if you have to do OnlyFans with Naked Yoga, so bad.
See ya.
Ha ha ha
They were so proud of her for putting posting a workout video by herself today, you know? Like, congrats, Jen. You did it. And I was like, wow, Jen really does find time. Like when I'm on vacation, I find it hard to work out, mostly'cause I just don't want to.
Well you're walkle.
Sure. Yeah. Okay. So then we're going we're doing the final dinner. You know, and Tamara and Gina also said like when they said that they were gonna bring this up, she's like, Okay, I'll wait till tomorrow because Tamara's like, wait until the dinner before we get on a flight. Which is like so strategic. Like, okay, so they're like, here we are, now we're at dinner. Everyone's walking up and Tamma brings up how she once got crap.
That was a funny story.
Sure, but just not while they're ordering. The poor waiter. Don't subject him to this
Uh, and then Gina throws out the bomb and Gina's like, So, Gretchen, there's something I need to ask you and it seems like
First though, we get our end things. We get the end cards tw with twenty plus minutes left in this episode.
That's right.
Yeah, or Heather does one too, right? She that she chat GBT'd.
Mm, mm.
And so okay. And like we start hearing
Read us the cards, Mary. Mm-hmm.
Tamara and Eddie have been spending lots of time in Big Bear while Sophia is planning to move to New York City to pursue music. She has no plans to record with her mother. It's kind of funny. Mm-hmm. Heather and Terry sold their Beverly Hills house at a five point eight million dollar loss. She doesn't plan on buying a new place in Orange County, and that's no lie. Shannon has a new guy in her life, Troy, a golden retriever. She's riding this emotional high, space cake free.
The gated game
Group is going strong and are Gina and Travis. Gina is still living without fear, unless she's critiquing Heather's improv. Uh While Ryan and Jen still do not have a wedding date planned, Dawson recently graduated from Marines boot camp, but passed out twenty minutes into the ceremony.
No me. Like why did we have to mention that? Could we say something about her Instagram account?
Right. Emily continues to navigate Luke's evolving diagnosis. She is learning to embrace life's unpredictable ride, including the one at the Abbey.
Oh stupid.
¶ Gretchen's Controversial Social Media Posts
Um and then we get the Gina Bob. Tell us about it.
Yeah. So then Gina's like, you know, but which is like crazy, right? When they did those end cards, I was like, Whoa, there is so much episodes still left. Like obviously this is an extended episode. Like we're doing an hour and fifteen here. But I was like, Oh my God, so I'm like, Okay, here we go. Gina's like, There's something I need to ask. Gretchen, you know, it's been these and Tamara's like, Is it is it the story that I'm talking about too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
She's like, yeah, so she's shared posts that you like that are really disparaging to the LGBTQ community. Gretchen's reaction is so strange. What did you think about her reaction?
Okay, so when... I first watched it It did feel like this was just like Tamara plotting against Gretchen and like the next day I I know I'm going forward, but like I found it very strange that the next day the likes were gone and all this stuff. Then I watched it back and Gretchen, she says, I don't have any issues. Oh, I I must have just like been scrolling scrolling quickly and liking things. And as I watched it back, I was like
Oh no.
She definitely liked these things.
So I I first off, if she's scrolling if she's scrolling and liking these things, these are accounts she follows, Mary.
That's a very good valid point as well.
So
Like people are not on their Instagram Explore page being like your Instagram Explore page is not a scrolling where you're reading a caption and you're understanding, right? It's like a lot of photos and reels when you go to your Explore page. So like you'd have to click into them to see what they're say, like what it is, right? Like and they'll just bring you to that specific post. Her scrolling is following these types of accounts, whether she's giving it a like or not.
She's following the account. Her reaction to this was just like, I I feel like she knew something was coming and didn't know what it was.
I I think she knows she liked these accounts, these posts. And then she just was like, Oh no, no, no, no, no. That's no, that couldn't. And she was very calm. And, you know, she calls Slade, but like Tamara's reaction and what she wants Gretchen to do is is not what Gretchen does. You know what I mean?
Okay, when we saw Heather doing her podcast with Dylan earlier in this season, remember we were kind of like you I think you said like it's kind of weird that we had that. Yeah.
blip of like the Trevor project that like now it all makes sense. Um yeah.
Yeah. So I so I thought that was really interesting. Like, oh, you like something and so you can just see Heather getting heated, right? And Gretchen's like, It's not true at all and Heather kinda goes on this like diatribe of like every forty five seconds and the other women are talking that she literally says, I'm talking now. Like Heather was she was activated. And like Gretchen was like, I know, like that's just not like me at all. She's like, Heather's like
What like your reaction is strange? Like, why are you not horrified right now? Gretchen is like, that makes me sad. And Jen's like, okay, you know, is it because you biblically believe like a man and a woman? And Heather's like, Bibla! What Tamara wants Gretchen to admit is that she's transphobic or homophobic.
Well, and Tamra literally says to Gretchen, like, just own your truth. Like you we know you liked this. So like say if that's how you feel, then just say it because it's there is evidence, you know what I mean?
And then he just likes gay people too. He does not like hate. And Gretchen is like, I'm blindsided. Like this isn't my truth. And Tam's like, I don't know is not an answer. I'm so curious what the specific posts that they showed is'cause it's obviously like prob like, you know, there's been some Reddit posts that are floating around that are talking about all the things that Gretchen has liked over the years or whatever. And I'm like, what's this specific post? Because it's clearly very bad.
Right. I think Shannon's reaction is the most genuine. Like she honestly covers her lips. She's like whispering. She's like, This is insane. She starts crying. And then we're seeing Shannon's confessional. And it's Shannon's like, Why didn't Tamara say this earlier? She apparently knew about this for a year. Why did she tell Gina and not Heather? Like, Shannon's like this.
Sis
So And Gretchen's just like trying to defend herself. She's like, this is not how I feel, you know. She's like I in two thousand and nine had a drag Tupperware party. That's this is not who I am.
Um
And then like Heather is calling Terry, and then Gretchen is calling Slade.
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And, you know, it's it's kind of really gone awry. Um
Why did she call Slade Mary? Like my thought is she's calling Slade because she's like, you gotta go unlike the account. Like you gotta go unlike all the posts that I've done. Like and it was a bad move for her to walk away and call Slade as opposed to pull Heather aside or defend herself more. It's like you're In these groups, though, you're kind of a damned if you do. And I'm not defending Gretchen, but like a damned if you do, damned if you don't, right? Like Gretchen's reaction to being
accused of liking Instagram posts versus like Lisa Barlow's reaction of like being the person who's digging up are like two ends of the spectrum, right? Her kind of just sitting there not reacting to me is guilty. So it's kind of wild of like how we how we would think we would react in situations and how that can make somebody guilty or not.
¶ Gretchen's Defense and Slade's Angle
Well and she's like, they're accusing me of being homophobic and and then then Slade talks about how Tamara had a gig. blur against him. back over a decade ago for wearing for wearing white thongs.
Split flops too. Like not a whale, not a whale tail, just to specify. I'm like Slade had that ready to go.
He sure did, he sure did. And then Tamara's like, So does Slate give you s any good advice? And just as she's like eating. But it's like very interesting at the same time'cause I don't think like Tamara's like, this isn't exactly how I thought it would play out. Like she's not getting the reaction she wants from Gretchen. She's trying to ignite her. Um
She was supposed to fight fire with fire and they told her that last episode that's not the way to do it.
Right.
I'm surprised she didn't throw that back in Tamara's face.
I feel like we didn't see as much as what happened. Like I was cut a lot. Yeah. And it's just like Tamara's like, she's a horrible fucking person. She's been going after me for 12 years. Like
This isn't This is who she is.
You know. Damn right. Like she she needs to get in another car.
Well Gretchen, at the one point they go, Gretchen, you need to go make this okay with Heather. When Gretchen stands up, I know this we're talking about this situation. I was like, what the fuck are you wearing?
Right, right, right.
What is this outfit? It's like a one it's like a fur, one only like one arm is inserted into it. Like this is just such wild fashion. She hasn't really shown any reaction. Instead of like They're like, Why aren't you begging Heather for forgiveness and letting her know this isn't who you are? Like, you're not reacting. The only time she finally reacts is when they all go to the van and her and Jen are like the last two to get in and they're like, Emily goes, Sweetie, you're in a different car.
Like literally, then Gretchen starts talking. Jen is like covering her ears. Like, and Gretchen's like This isn't who I am. I'm so sad. Like, how are you guys doing this to me? I've never seen this. This is not who I am. This is not making sense. You're making me out to be someone I am not.
But when they say to her, they're like, We're doing this to you. Like she's refusing to take any responsibility or accountability in this moment. And I'm thinking, you guys have had all this time and not at any point did anybody go and do the The research. Research. Like that's what kind of annoys me is that there were these screenshots and you guys didn't think to go in yourself before come like before going ahead with this and seeing if the likes were there.
Right, because like the next day we're riding to the airport and it's it's Tamara, Heather, Gina, Emily, and one more uh
Okay. Everyone but Gretchen and Shannon because Shannon took the train to Paris.
That's right. Okay. So and Gina's like Gina's like realizing she got set up. And Gina's like, you know, I went back last night and I couldn't find her liking at any of any of these things.
But she does follow the account.
Mm-hmm. And then Gina's like, I'm kind of feeling bad. I don't know if this is even true. And Gina seems like very confused. And Jen's like, Gina. Definitely got played by Tamara. Um and Gina's like, you know, this is gonna like end up destroying both of your lives. Like You look really bad in this situation, Tamara. But also Courtney and I did a little bit of research because
We did research.
Yeah. So tell tell people about
Okay, so we're trying to figure out because right, Gina's like, I can't find any of the likes. So we're like, well How would okay,'cause I was like when I thought Gretchen was calling Slate, I thought she was like, get into my account and unlike every single post that has been that I've liked it. But I'm like, how would you go into that? Some of these are from years ago. How would you go? So we realized if you actually go
to these accounts, you can block them. And then once you unblock them, all of your likes from the previous are gone. But I'm like, okay, so was their move then? Don't unfollow these accounts'cause they know you follow'em. If you unfollow them, that's suspicious. But if you block and unblock and all the likes go away. that becomes a win, I guess.
What do you think?
I think you're definitely on to something there.
Thinking. The day
She probably did like some of these things. They were erased. I think it's a fact that she does follow them.
¶ Tamra's Alleged Leaks and Off-Camera Drama
I just think this is so dirty and I don't want to watch this shit. Like it's not fun and it's so calculated and and It just feels icky. It feels really, really icky.
Or we do a one week later, right? And we have to have Slade and Gretchen Gretchen's hair with this sweatsuit, Mary. I was like, this has to be a wig. She has like a she has like a little clip just pulling it back. Slate's hair color looks as if he has washed it and it's just like he needs a toner. It's a terrible hair color on him, and he's like, I am going to find out who made this account.
And as we know in the reunion, he spends they're spend thousands of dollars on a cyber analysis, a la Diana Jenkins and the bots who went after Garcell's son. So Slade, when did you get a thousands of dollars to do that? Pay your child support.
Yeah. I it just it's too much. It's this is like not fun. And and then like I thought it was really interesting when they cut to Tamara and Eddie and She's just like, I'm just worried it gets the about the retaliation. Like, what is Slate up to right now? It's like, oh my God, this is so sick. This is
So fun stuff. We like low stakes drama. This feels yucky, right? But in like To me, when I see Tamara say that, I'm like, I kind of believe her in this situation that this all happened.
Thank you.
I just I don't trust I don't trust Gretchen. But if we want to go, so we're at Jen's house. Gina and Shannon come over. They were talking to some account, another blogger of some sort. I don't know what the account who the account was. Who do you think it was? Like somebody didn't get permission at this point.
Because they like literally hide the person's voice with the scream voice.
Maybe I text you, I oh, the Scream trailer dropped today. Do you think this is an integration for Scream Seven?
I just like it I I just I'm like, is it Kiki? Like
Yeah.
All we talked about was Kiki Moody.
キキモニク
You know, I have no idea who it is and The the screenshot says, I know you don't know who I am. I'm just someone who wants to expose the truth. Part of the reason why I wanted to reach out is because Tamara has been leaking details about the entire season throughout filming to bloggers and fan pages. If you want to test knowledge, feel f feel free to pro or I'm free to prove everything I'm saying. And also the person thing it wasn't that credible to be honest. It was little too.
I mean the person did give date they they gave details, which makes me think of Beverly Hills. Like as soon as Lisa Renna was off the show, we got way less leaks than we ever had.
Right.
Sarina was a big culprit of this. But it was very much like the dates that they gave were very specific. They were all like, Whoa, this is crazy because This is like our entire season, this person knows. But then I was like, So was the account posting about the season or do they just know these details? Like, I mean, I guess we knew at some point there were all these rumors kind of going around.
Yeah. I I just I don't know where I don't know where to go with this. You know, like Shannon's like, how dare she like this is evil. Like Jen's like Tamara's the most calculated person in this friend group. To me again, it's like there are details though of things that we don't see on camera. The off camera stuff is so hard as a viewer to follow, especially if you're not super chronically online. As a casual fan, trying to follow exactly what is going on is really tough.
Yeah. At the reunion, um, and Gina mentions this on Watch What Happens Live too, is like they don't they play that last part. So everything at Jen's house. They nobody sees that until the reunion. So I find that pretty fascinating. It's like and Gina's sitting next to Tamra at the reunion.
This is what I want to see.
¶ RHOC Cast Future and Reunion Preview
Gina and Emily, their story's been told. They've always been bee housewives to me. I'm sorry, you gotta go. Katie, I forgot that you left. Grinchin, you didn't make the cut. Tamara, you're disgusting. Goodbye. I only want Shannon, Heather, and Jen to come back.
Oh wow. Okay.
Tell me what you what you want to do. And also this is season twenty. I want Vicky to be coming machining. Heather to bring in two new girls and like to have actual f money. I I like Jen. I I do like Jen.
I will be curious how the reunion goes because you thought Tamara was done. I texted you, I was like, I don't think she's done, but I'm curious how she does spin it at the reunion.
I think it's interesting at at Watch What Happens Live they had Gina.
Mm-hmm. Well, I don't think she had been on all season, but also she was the one that kind of quote unquote got played. I just, you know, I don't know. I I'm kind of at a loss because it's like it's this iconic season twenty, but I'm like, at this point too, is this show done? ending like this feels icky and I don't know where it goes from here and I don't know I I need to see the three parts of the reunion to see where I want them to go.
We talked a lot about this. I think we'll see what happens at the reunion. I think, you know, where it sounds like it's gonna be pretty explosive reunion and Mary who's, you know Famously not a reunion girl, shoot them tune in.
Of course I will. Of course I will, Courtney. Well, have fun the rest of your time in New York.
We'll see you guys next week.
Bye. Have a great weekend. Happy Halloween.
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Major self-care update Suave is now available in Canada. We've been loving their affordable self-care lineup, including deodorant with forty-eight hour sweat and odor protection and hydrating. Body washes shop the full lineup for just three dollars and ninety-seven cents now exactly. Exclusively at Walmart.