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Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with entrepreneurs, creatives, patent attorneys and the occasional judge about how patents, trade marks, designs and copyright can improve our lives and solve problems for humanity.

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Episodes

In Isolation With... HH Judge Hacon and IP Pro Bono

Send us Fan Mail You've discovered that someone has ripped off your patented product, copied your trade mark or breached your copyright. Your intellectual property has been infringed. But you can't afford to defend yourself in court. You need to apply to IP Pro Bono for help! IP Pro Bono is a scheme offering free legal support to individuals and small firms involved in IP disputes who can't afford to pay. His Honour Judge Hacon hears such cases in the UK's pioneering Intellectual Property Enterp...

Jun 09, 2020•51 min•Season 1Ep. 7

In Isolation With... Darren Smyth

Send us Fan Mail This week we have a wide-ranging chat about diversity, including sexuality and racial inequality, the mental strain of isolation, the rise of video conferencing and its use in patent hearings...and unicorns and more tortoises! Chartered Patent Attorney Darren Smyth, a partner at intellectual property firm EIP and head of its practice group, joins regular hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts for this episode....

Jun 04, 2020•38 min•Season 1Ep. 6

In Isolation With... the Intensive Care Society and Memcom

Send us Fan Mail Few have had a more stressful and exhausting time since the start of the coronavirus pandemic than members of the Intensive Care Society , working at the frontline of the crisis. Co-hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with Sandy Mather, Chief Executive of the ICS, about the dreadful emotional and physical toll that dealing with the virus has exerted on her members. She thanks Lee for the advice and assistance that CIPA staff have given to her team on the delivery of webinar...

May 29, 2020•43 min•Season 1Ep. 5

In Isolation With... Student Patent Attorneys

Send us Fan Mail Lockdown has disrupted life for everyone. But for students revising for exams that have been cancelled for 12 months, it has delayed a vital stage of their professional development. Co-hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts speak with three student patent attorneys: Carolyn Palmer of Schlich who is Honorary Secretary of the CIPA Informals (an informal association of all trainees and a committee of CIPA); Kevin Rich of Potter Clarkson and Joel Briscoe of HGF. They discuss the frustr...

May 19, 2020•39 min•Season 1Ep. 4

In Isolation With... Mental Health Leaders in IP

Send us Fan Mail Coronavirus lockdown has created different pressures for us all. How is it affecting those in the intellectual property field and how can colleagues and managers best help those in need of support? Our co-hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with: Andrea Brewster, Chartered Patent Attorney and Lead Executive Officer of IP Inclusive ; Ben Buchanan, Deputy Director of Patents at the UK Intellectual Property Office and its diversity and inclusion champion and CIPA's own Fran Bl...

May 15, 2020•38 min•Season 1Ep. 3

In Isolation With... Tim Moss

Send us Fan Mail How is the UK's Intellectual Property Office, responsible for IP rights such as patents, trade marks and designs across the UK, ensuring the majority of its services remain unaffected by lockdown and the coronavirus crisis? Our co-hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts ask Tim Moss, CEO of the IPO, how his staff have responded to the pandemic and adapted to the "new normal". They chat about the challenges of managing a workforce of 1,250 remotely, the importance of effective commun...

May 05, 2020•28 min•Season 1Ep. 2

In Isolation With... Sole Practitioners

Send us Fan Mail How are the UK's sole traders and small firms coping with life on lockdown during the coronavirus pandemic? Lee Davies, Chief Executive of the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys , chats with Bev Ouzman, of Ouzman IP , and Keith Loven, of Loven Patents and Trade Marks , about the challenges of running a small business in the current climate. They discuss everything from furloughing staff and adapting to the virtual working world to dealing with isolation, illness contingency...

Apr 30, 2020•16 min•Season 1Ep. 1

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