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Two IPs In A Pod

Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with entrepreneurs, creatives, patent attorneys and the occasional judge about how patents, trade marks, designs and copyright can improve our lives and solve problems for humanity.

Episodes

With Solveiga Pakštaitė from Mimica

Send us a text 83% of food that is thrown away in Europe is still edible, Solveiga Pakštaitė and Mimica are helping to tackle this problem. Solveiga and her patent attorney Barbara Cookson talk to Lee and Gwilym about the evolution of the Mimica Gel from its inclusive roots, through to the early patenting journey - including trying to write her own patent application - and how the invention is preventing food waste and encouraging sustainability. For more information on Mimica, check out their w...

Aug 26, 202144 minSeason 4Ep. 2

With Steve Rowan

Send us a text Steve Rowan spent 28 years at the UK Intellectual Property Office before becoming a Vice-President of the European Patent Office, based at The Hague. Lee and Gwilym chat with Steve about the new virtual world, including the big switch to video conferencing and what the future might hold.

Aug 02, 202138 minSeason 4Ep. 1

With Luke McDonagh

Send us a text Two peas or not Two peas, that is the question... Or is it? Luke McDonagh, scholar of Intellectual Property Law at the London School of Economics, joins Lee and Gwilym to talk about his new book on theatre and copyright, beginning in Elizabethan London and taking us through to present day litigation. Luke talks about how copyright of theatrical work emerged, the intersection of law and theatre and how theatre changed it's response to copyright law over the centuries. Luke&apo...

Jun 18, 202154 minSeason 3Ep. 12

IP Draughts

Send us a text How do you stay up to date with all the latest news from the world of IP? By reading the blog IP Draughts of course! This week Lee and Gwilym are joined by Mark Anderson and AnnMarie Humphries to talk about why they started IP draughts, the work of Anderson Law LLP and all the latest IP news.

May 27, 202144 minSeason 3Ep. 11

AI with Ryan Abbott

Send us a text Robots are sexy... and reasonable! Ryan Abbott, author of "The Reasonable Robot", professor of Law at the University of Surrey, physician scientist and acupuncturist, joins Lee and Gwilym for our second installment of our Artificial Intelligence series. Ryan talks about the debates surrounding AI being listed as the inventor on patent applications (DABUS), the future of AI in IP and the wider legal system. You can find the link to Ryan's book "The Reasonable Ro...

May 20, 202153 minSeason 3Ep. 10

Mental Health Awareness Week

Send us a text There's a rogue pea in the pod! Past CIPA President and head of IP Inclusive Andrea Brewster is our guest host for Mental Health Awareness Week. Lee and Andrea are joined by Mental Health consultant to Jonathan's Voice, June Dent and Tim Fray from Loven Patents and Trademarks to talk about mental health in IP. They talk about the work of Jonathan's Voice in helping leaders look after their team's mental health, what we get right or wrong when addressing wellbei...

May 13, 202141 minSeason 3Ep. 9

Food and IP

Send us a text What is the relationship between rights and recipes? Laura Clews from Mathys and Squire takes Lee and Gwilym through the world of food and IP, from warring caterpillar cakes through to protecting trade secrets, recipe hacking and patenting innovation within the food industry.

Apr 30, 202144 minSeason 3Ep. 8

With Tim Moss

Send us a text Tim Moss is back! This time he tells Lee and Gwilym about the Intellectual Property Office's new Digital Strategy and how the IPO has been managing throughout the pandemic.

Apr 29, 202146 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Sport and IP

Send us a text It all started with a dart board... Sport is a huge driver of innovation. You have to continuously innovate to perform better than your competitors and even simple innovation can significantly enhance an athletes performance. Matthew Fletcher and Anne-Marie Conn from Abel and Imray take Lee and Gwilym through the importance of protecting these innovations, litigation and how patenting helps companies stay competitive....

Apr 23, 202137 minSeason 3Ep. 6

Vaccines

Send us a text How do the patent system and the development of vaccines sit together? This week on Two IPs in A Pod, Anton Hutter of Venner Shipley and Frank Tietze of Cambridge University join hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts to chat through their views on COVID 19, vaccines and the IP industry.

Mar 11, 202150 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Social Media

Send us a text Can somebody please help Gwilym find out what a meme is?! This week we’re joined by Rebecca O’Kelly-Gillard to chat about the role of IP within Social Media. Copyright still exists within social media, but how do you protect your rights and enforce them on platforms designed to share content? Rebecca takes Lee and Gwilym through the role of your Digital Footprint, cross platform content rights, common social media myths, and advice for small businesses selling through social media...

Mar 03, 202155 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Artificial Intelligence

Send us a text Is Norman a good name for a robot? This week Lee and Gwilym are joined by IBM's Anita Shaw, Manny Schecter and Rashik Parmar to take an exciting dive into the world of AI. Starting with the question, what is AI, through to the future effects it could have on the world of work, innovation and patentability.

Feb 16, 202146 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Women in STEM

Send us a text Today is International Women in STEM Day. To celebrate, Lee and Gwilym are sitting down with three female Patent Attorneys, Olivia Johansson, new council member Monika Rai and CIPA President Alicia Instone to talk about why they chose to pursue STEM, what can be done to encourage more girls to be involved and why we need more female role models within the Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics sector....

Feb 10, 202151 minSeason 3Ep. 2

With Tibor Gold

Send us a text It's Season 3 and we kick off with a story unlike any other. Lee and Gwilym chat with former CIPA President Tibor Gold about his extraordinary life, from fleeing Nazi Hungary as a Jewish refugee in World War II through to his life as a patent attorney, becoming CIPA President and his recent work to improve the inclusivity and diversity of the IP professions.

Feb 04, 202148 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Best of Season 2

Send us a text IT'S CHRISTMAS! But not as we know it. Lee and Gwilym console each other about being in Tier 4. Gwilym has coronavirus, but thankfully it's not affecting him badly enough to stop him podcasting. They look back on their favourite clips from Season 2, which featured judges, inventors, patent exam candidates, a focus on diversity and IP in North America and China.

Dec 21, 202031 minSeason 2Ep. 13

With Judge Rader

Send us a text Lee and Gwilym talk rock 'n roll, meeting different US Presidents, patent eligibility, the Unwired Planet UK court decision and its international influence - and lots more - with Judge Randall Rader , Former Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. They also discuss holding hearings by videoconference following the recent decision by the European Patent Office to make ViCo the default for all hearings below appeal until autumn 2021....

Dec 11, 202037 minSeason 2Ep. 12

With our friends in Canada

Send us a text If you're wondering what effect a Biden US presidency will have on intellectual property, we have some answers for you. Lee and Gwilym have a transatlantic chat with our good friends at the Intellectual Property Institute of Canada (IPIC) . President, Stephanie Chong of Hoffer Adler LLP , Toronto, and her Vice-President, Louis-Pierre Gravelle, of Robic , Montreal, update us on the latest Canadian patent and trade mark news. As well as casting an eye across to their North Amer...

Dec 04, 202054 minSeason 2Ep. 11

With Alicia Instone

Send us a text Question: What links zombies, nose studs, rescue chickens and dinosaur backpacks? Answer: CIPA's incoming President for 2021, Alicia Instone. Lee and Gwilym chat with Alicia about the can-do attitude that has been the hallmark of her career, the importance of having a broad IP practice and her hopes for raising awareness of how to maintain good mental health. (Episode acronym key: Patcom = CIPA Patents Committee; ANIPA = Association of National IP Associations.)...

Nov 27, 202037 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Careers in Ideas Week

Send us a text Interested in a career as a lawyer specialising in intellectual property and want to find out more? The charity IP Inclusive works to increase diversity and through its Careers In Ideas campaign, is raising awareness of different IP career paths. This week is Careers In Ideas Week and IP Inclusive is working with organisations who support under-represented groups such as BAME students, disabled people and women in STEM, to provide a focus on social mobility and access to the profe...

Nov 15, 202048 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Intellectual Property in China

Send us a text China is the second-largest economy in the world and the UK's fifth biggest trading partner. Speaking to our co-hosts Lee and Gwilym about the improving IP environment in China as it moves from a manufacturing to an innovation-based economy are Adam Williams , Director of International Policy at the UK Intellectual Property Office (IPO), Conor Murray , the IPO's attaché for China, and CIPA's Council's resident China expert, Daniel Chew , of Haseltine Lake Kempn...

Nov 13, 202045 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Success of the first UK online exams

Send us a text When CIPA launched Two IPs In A Pod in March 2020, the European Qualifying Exams had just been cancelled and there was real concern about whether this year's UK Qualifying Exams for patent attorneys would be held this year. Chatting with Lee and Gwilym about the success of the first ever UK online qualifying exams, held in October 2020, are trainee attorneys Joel Briscoe, Kevin Rich and Amelia Barton....

Nov 06, 202049 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Two IPs in a Pumpkin

Send us a text It's Halloween! We’re delving into the world of strange and unusual patents with CIPA council members Tim Jackson and Joel Briscoe. Be prepared for some wacky inventions and truly terrifying jokes.

Oct 30, 202027 minSeason 2Ep. 6

With Chris Palermo

Send us a text We're deep into autumn with winter around the corner. Lee's been on jury service and Gwilym's been buying waterproofs to avoid COVID-related indoor queuing. Providing us with a contrasting view of intellectual property from America's Golden State is Christopher J. Palermo , a partner in the Palo Alto, California office of Baker Botts LLP. Chris speaks about being interviewed by Steve Jobs, the importance of university innovation to Cali's thriving IP econo...

Oct 15, 202043 minSeason 2Ep. 5

With Sir Robin Jacob

Send us a text Lee and Gwilym's guest this week is such an IP VIP that he barely needs an introduction. Sir Robin Jacob was appointed a Lord Justice of Appeal in October 2003 and continues to sit from time to time in the Court of Appeal. He is also wonderful speaker and raconteur, so sit back and enjoy an armchair chat with one of the UK's most influential figures in IP.

Oct 08, 202035 minSeason 2Ep. 4

With Women in IP

Send us a text Discussions around diversity within the IP profession are more important than ever. Women in IP have been working to highlight the benefits of gender inclusion within the profession and work towards greater equality. This week co-hosts Lee and Gwilym are sitting down with Susi Fish and Joanna Conway from Women in IP to discuss how the committee has developed over the years, what makes a good ally and the challenges facing working parents when balancing careers and family life. Kee...

Sep 25, 202040 minSeason 2Ep. 3

With Recycling Technologies

Send us a text At least 8 million tons of plastic end up in our oceans every year. This plastic makes up 80% of all marine debris and can end up severely injuring, or killing, sea creatures. The wonderful people at Recycling Technologies decided to do something about this situation by recycling plastic into new products. Hosts Lee and Gwilym chat with Marvine Besong, Technical Director of Recycling Technologies, about the company's innovations and the importance of patenting them....

Sep 07, 202039 minSeason 2Ep. 2

With IP Ability

Send us a text Schools are back and so are we! Hosts Lee and Gwilym are opening Season 2 with special guests, Chris Clarke, Debra Smith, Caelia Bryn-Jacobsen and Kerry Russell from IP Ability. In this episode, we discuss how the committee promotes improvement within the profession surrounding ability and accessibility. They touch on how we can be inclusive of all different types of disabilities, making adjustments in exams for learning disabilities and how events and conferences can be made more...

Sep 04, 202043 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Best of Season One

Send us a text What a season it's been! We've had presidents, inventors, judges and a fluffy unicorn called Steve. Join Lee and Gwilym for a special episode where we take a look back at some of the highlights from Season One, including an unlikely appearance from an Alexa... Thank you to everyone that's tuned in so far. It's been a great season and we can't wait to be back for Season2!...

Aug 27, 202028 minSeason 1Ep. 13

With President Campinos and President Mair

Send us a text The first season of Two IPs In A Pod is coming to an end – and what an ending we have for you! António Campinos, President of the European Patent Office , tells Lee and Gwilym how the EPO’s plans to digitise and virtualise the EPO’s services have been accelerated in response to the coronavirus pandemic. And in an exclusive for the podcast, he confirms that the European Qualifying Exam (EQE) will be held online next year. CIPA’s own President, Richard Mair, joins the conversation t...

Jul 23, 202037 minSeason 1Ep. 12

With Mr Justice Birss

Send us a text Sir Colin Birss is among the most influential patent judges in the world and is UK intellectual property royalty. Hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts ask Sir Colin about his life before the judiciary - and Lee finds out they have more in common than he imagined. They discuss the need for more IP judges, the success of the Intellectual Property Enterprise Court and the international influence of the UK courts....

Jul 08, 202045 minSeason 1Ep. 11
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