The First Pontification

Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to 2 Grumpy Vets and a Duuude. I'm your host, Brian. With me, I've also got Rich and Dude, also known as Ron. We are been a long time friends, good 4 or 5 years, and we're just wanting to kinda start having sharing these conversations that we have. I think these conversations help men help people in general just start living their life intentionally. We're having this podcast intentionally. And this this is gonna be a podcast that is just set in

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Yeah, no, I I'm I'm rich. And yeah, like Brian said, Brian and I have been talking to each other for 5 years. And I I honestly, Brian's the one that freaking got me into podcasting. I've always loved it. I've started a couple and failed a couple, but, you know, I'm still trying to get in a brand had this idea and I thought he was badder than anything, but I was like, all right, we'll try it. Cause you know, I don't like to conform to anything or anybody.

I well, you got your you got your email. Mine. Yeah. Mine. Yeah. Shoot me an email at rchelson@gmail.com. That is Chelson.

 Yeah. With the r in front of it. Yeah. I didn't spell it. Brian. Brian hooked me up. But, and and and I also love my Jeep. I love the hell out of my Jeep and you might hear Ron and I go go on and on about Jeep sometimes because Ron drives a Jeep too. But, anyway, other than that, that's me, and, I'll be with you just like Brian will and and introducing the next person. You wanna go with

with Ron? Alright. Go ahead. Pass it on over to over to the dude.

We're gonna pass you on to duuude. Take it away. So wrong. Is Ron.

Well, thank you, gentlemen. Yes. Referred to as dude. Again, our conversation started as, of vets getting together just to talk. Also, vets getting together to if they are having, issues. I myself, combat vet, been to Afghanistan, Iraq, and I suffer with severe PTSD. Some days are good. Some days are not so good. So these gentlemen, are kinda my lifeline to if I need somebody to talk to with their military background, they know exactly what I'm saying and why I'm saying what I am saying.

Dude, that was awesome, man.

That was awesome. I love that. Yeah. That's okay. And that might be something we have to start doing is coming up with just though we are, are going this, like I said, this shows is a value for value model. It's going to be where we have, you know, we're we're we're going to be taking time, talent, and treasure from our guys. But at the same time, put start putting up just, you know,

It shouldn't be too hard. It shouldn't be too hard, but love. And I've always loved Prozac because sometimes you feel like a nut, Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you don't.

And so, yeah. And so guys, and that to the audience, to the you guys, guys and gals who are actually listening to it. That is part of the value for value. Yeah. We would like for you to send us money. We're we'll end up having on the site. We'll and site right now is, 2 grumpy bets. And the whole reason why we ended up throwing in dude is because

actual dollar bills. Well, true. But but say say the thing is also, Brian, is is and this is what I've seen. Bitcoin, they still haven't fully simplified it for for us regular folk. It's still it's still a little technical for for most people,

I think. Well, it is. I mean Well, the Satoshi part podcast 2.0 part. Yeah, it is. It's still just it's nerd bill. Yeah, it is. 1 100 percent. It is trying to get you a, a satoshi wallet is just been a, a exercise in futility almost. Yeah. And it's not and come to find out it's not the technology.

No. No.

No. No. But at the same time, people are investing their life savings in, you know, the value of the yen. They're buying, you know, stocks and bonds that is putting your money into American dollars. Right. Money market accounts. It's the same thing except because it's so heavily regulated.

this just the other day. It had 23

No. Shit. It did. I have been paying attention to what gold what gold's got. Oh, it just popped up. Yep. Yeah. Well, considering how much they're they're using, they're they're just the government's playing playing, you know,

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, it was, it was, hold it. July,

July, no, August, of, of, of 21.

So, yeah, it was just right after birds, wasn't it? Yeah. Over birds. At 21. Okay. Okay. So,

and it was about that time that I really, we really started getting, kind of all the veterans, together with that. Right. So, but but anyhow so I we've been we've been kinda meeting shortly thereafter that, oh, for, well, since 2021, which has, been, what is it? What I, I went to sunray high school. So that's what, 3 years, 3. Yeah. 3 years. So Well, let's say for I I I am too good looking for math. So we've got we got a Oh my god.

I carried the 8.

So so You you forgot to carry the you're right. You forgot to carry the eights. Carry gotta carry the 8.

And so, but anyhow, I I am when it comes to, to to all that, I've just I've that was my means of being able to help support, support the vets in, in at least some way where because I am a firm believer that when, when veterans are struggling, it is they're struggling because they are, have forced themselves to be alone. There it they are by themselves. There is they have they have isolated.

well, Brian, it was, I think, after our first event or whatnot, he turned and looked at me and he said, I found someone who could talk more than you. He's like, I did think that was fucking possible, dude. I'm like, yeah, he can tell.

I I've I've I've always, I've always done that. I mean, I've, I could never, whenever I was a kid that I don't know if, if, where y'all grew up, we used to have UIL competitions. And these were, like like, spelling bees in 1st, 2nd, 3rd grade and stuff. You had things like, spelling bee. You had a speech contest. You had storytelling contest. You had reading, or oratory contest. You had all these different types of contests for kids from the first until, about like the 8th grade.

Right.

It's can I sit and hear what the other person's saying? Right. Right. And and help and let them just do the thought process. And whenever I was going through my certification, yeah, that was the biggest that that was my big deal is I was wanting to to, almost motivate motivate or speak to them, and it's and and the teacher was like, oh, no. No. No. No. Hold up. Hold up. You gotta let the person coach themselves, essentially, is what she finally got around to saying it and it clicks. Oh, okay.

Right. Right.

And so that's, that's the, that's the big, the big, the the big cincture,

so to speak. So, but, yeah, we, anyhow, so I I Hang on. Hang on. Hang on a second. Okay. Hold on a second. Let me ask you. What's what's that last big word you said? Center or or or it's sensuous or well, no. It wasn't sensuous.

I was going to say, I don't recall ever saying sent to us. I've no, I, I fly out of my mouth and, and I,

Well, that's I I think I think that was one of them because you said it and I'm like, censure is when you shut someone up, basically. Yeah.

You have to censor censure censure yourself. Yeah. Pontificate.

Well, yeah. No. No. I know I know what that one is. But Yeah. Most of us do do so, but, No. No. The thing hang hang on. No. Hang on. No. No. I'm not saying everyone who, who watches this will will, not be intelligent or whatnot, but they might not know what the word pontificate means

because that's a noble. Okay. So need to write down. It would need to, here's let me grab the book here and I guess we can start making making notes. I got got our first jingle that we're going to have to come up with. Ryan's word of the day is. Antification. Pontification.

Because you see, it was funny. The first time I heard that, I was I was listening to, Phil Robertson. They they were doing their podcast. I can't now I can't think of it, what it is, but hey, he says that word a lot. He's like, I sit there and I pontificate. And I didn't know what it was. First. In speech tonight? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And and I just I was like, I had to I had to look it up. So, Ron, do you know what pontificate means?

Not a clue. Absolutely 0.

Pontificate.

Well, I was going to say here here's a, here's a here. We'll use it in another sentence to see if it helps you, helps you understand what it is. The preacher was pontificating on the virtues of giving. Great. Message? Mess speaking, speaking on the topic of.

Oh, okay.

Is essentially what it is. It's just it's a grandiose, a grandiose way of talking about a topic.

Okay. It's it's it's an old word, though. It's from, what, 19th century?

Yeah. And, my my English teacher from high school would have been would have been so glad proud of me because it took until after I got out of high school to finally fall in love with words. So because we would have yeah. Because, I mean, we would have well, we had a my my high school English teacher's name was Ward Haynes.

Okay.

And so we had ward words is what the kids all in high school would call. Now all the students there were calling. We knew we were having a word word test. Uh-huh. And so our word word words were just were the vocabulary words. And so and one day I was so proud of myself. I got him. I got him stumped on a word that I used. And it's not it's one that people use today, but they use it more for in the in the in the the the marijuana culture, the cannabis culture.

Really?

Yeah. He's like, what in the what did you just say? And I said deep dark well, I know what deep dark, but what in the heck is a it's dank. Where'd you make that word up at? I was like, I didn't. It means wet. It's me it's a it's a highly moisture Yeah. You know, it's a wet environment.

Okay.

Because jocularity is at inappropriate humor or, or appropriate, humor at an inappropriate time. So jocularity is cutting a, cutting a, a laughing at a fart at a funeral. Right. Right. Okay. That's have a little jocularity there.

Yeah. That's that's. I was gonna say, I was gonna say military life is jocularity.

Yeah. Yeah. You're always laughing at the most inappropriate time. So, Right. Redundant was another, word word that I ended up having to write a few times. So, yeah, we I was very redundant in my writing of redundancy. So so so,

so since you've given this, English lesson, and thank you for that, by the way. You know? What about your, later career after you got out of high school?

Well, out of high school, I was going to be the world's greatest photographer for 2 years and then realized that, that life in the nineties is just as hard as life in the 2020, whether the kids these days wanna believe it or not. It it it's it's still, I was I was living off of a very well paid $11 an hour.

Oh, it was paid by me, dude.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Back then it it was except for the fact that if, when you looked at it, I was still living below the poverty level. Right. Because I think poverty level is like 28,000,

and I wasn't in the nineties?

I think so. Yeah. It might be a it might be 25, but anyhow but 11 $11 an hour, 40, 40 hours a week, because I was not gonna work overtime. I mean, I have a life except the fact that my life was trying to figure out how it was going to make ends meet. So and so I I'm not was that But I ain't doing no damn overtime. Yep. But I ain't doing overtime.

Okay. Okay.

And it was, it, it had, it had 4 studios. We did in house processing of the film and, and loaded the film, and all that. I mean, we just go in and had a dark room, so we go in and and did color, processing, printed out the, you got your, you got your your proofs within about an hour because, we were still shooting on silver at that time.

Hey. You're you're, you you you're $11 an hour. Actually, for a year, that was 22,00880. And Yeah. In 9 this was 1990, you said. Right?

Yeah. Well, 93.

Okay. Give or take.

Yeah.

But but either way well, okay. For a single person in 92, the poverty level was $7,143 a year, and 28,745 for a family of 9 or more. So,

but a family of 4 that was that somebody somebody did not know how to do their calculations properly because I was struggling to make ends meet. I was having during that time, I was still doing I was that was actually part of what I called my, my, year of starvation. It's not that I wasn't eating, but I was eating Ramen noodles. And that was a treat that was, Hey, I had a few extra bucks, right? So I'm going to, I'm going to to, to to whoop it up and buy some ramen noodles.

Yeah. Yeah. Kind of jam sandwiches.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take 2 pieces of bread and jam them together. Jam them together. There you go. Yeah. My God.

So But no. I was just, yeah, I was just saying what And I didn't even have a car

at that time either. So I wouldn't even have it. I was driving. I was running around Amarillo on a on a on a Mongoose bike. Back when Mongooses were still quality bikes before they sold out to, to to a Chinese manufacturer and became, what you bought at Walmart. Right. So and I would take it. And, there for a while, I would, whenever I was actually in in college for, for 2 semesters, I did whole 2 whole semesters and then realized, yeah, we're not doing this.

Mhmm.

And I would I actually spent I did it for a week. And after that, I was just like, screw this. I I can't do this no more. And, I would end up using, my my aunt's car because I used to have a car. I actually, I won a car and then, went to make a right hand turn on a, on a country road. And I looked left and proceeded to make a right hand turn and hit back end of a, of a, of a, Suzuki sidekick. And, yeah, my little Ford Escort,

did not run right after that. So Oh, damn. I bet not.

So and so that just I could never get the money together, to, to pay for the the, pay for the insurance, the down payment or not the down payment, the premiums for the, for the for the repair. And so ended up, just kinda selling it and, and stuff. And ended I had to actually turn around and and, had other debts that I needed to pay off, and so I hit most of that money went away. And so I after by the time I got whatever I was left was,

She can read part of it forward and had to use a mirror.

She had to mirror and read what else was what else I wrote. So well, Hey, you could at least write in code that way. Oh, yeah. I can still write backwards. I can read backwards. It's great. It's awesome. So, so all those little Facebook bills of, if you can read this, you're smarter than the average person. It's like, yeah, no shit. I'm smarter than the average person. No. I'm I can write it backwards too.

No. I am not. No. I was, I was actually born and raised in Missouri most of my life and been all over, And I was actually living up there and then I got cold. It got down to like negative 21 with a negative 45 wind chill, foot and a half of snow on the ground. And my ass said, I'm out because I'm retired and I'm like, oh, hell no. So I jumped in my Jeep, threw some clothes in it and I drove to Mississippi. Didn't know anybody for nothing. And, actually, I've met quite a few people here.

God, honey. You're a poor boy.

All because you are old and cold.

Right. Right. Because, yeah, when it's cold, that boy here don't move. Oh, yeah? No. I don't. No. I do not. No. I'm not.

I will never go back to my hometown of Lincoln, Nebraska.

Oh, no. No. No. Yeah. There's entirely

too much white air that sticks on the ground for too long of a time. I don't do snow. I'll watch it on TV. But as far as shoveling it, no. Now driving in it with a Jeep, that's fun.

Oh, yeah. That's fun. But but say the thing is recovery

getting the recovery gear out of the Jeep because, well, cars don't fare well in a snowbank.

That's fun. I had too much fun.

As well as a jeep can fare a lot better in a snowbank. So, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

See, the thing is, though, I can't watch snow even on TV. I get pissed.

I'm sorry. Why is it so white? No.

I get mad. Old and cold.

Right. Right.

No. I, I, I mean, degrees outside. He's watching a Christmas story. Just fuming. Goddamn it. There's too much cold white on there. Right. Or

or or or that's like that's that's like if I'm playing my, PS 5 and there's a game and it's got a it's got some scenes in the game. You begin your red dead redemption. You're just your nemesis, ain't it? Oh my God. That game pissed me off. Took me, like, 2 fucking weeks to get through that. And I was cold the whole time.

I would know. Yeah. I know. Hey. But isn't that cool, though? Where I'm at. Yeah. Do you do you notice the, the horse testicles when you were playing that red dead 2 while they were in the cold?

Really? Do you think I'm gonna look at horse testicles? No. I didn't notice my horse testicles. You've gotta watch it just for the horse testicles, cause honestly.

What go up and go up and hang around in the cold area, get up in the, into the grizzlies and hang around there for a little bit. Angle your camera down. Look at, look at the danglies and then send your horse all the way down to, down to Lemoyne. And then again, look, they actually drop when it's hot. When they're running around the cold, they're all packed up. But whenever it's hot, they they go they go to dangling. Oh my god. The details in that gay and yeah, guys.

Yeah. I was talking about roller skating when I was growing up because my mom, we're and we're talking very early in the conversation about single moms. My my mom was a single mom, and she worked at the skating rink. So I got to go roller skating, and I spent more hours a week on roller skates at the rink than I did in school on a 5 day school day week.

That's cool, dude. That's cool, man. That's called fun.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that was back in the day when the roller rink was the place to be.

What is that? The eighties?

No. That was, in seventies.

Okay. Late seventies or mid seventies?

Mid seventies.

Yes, folks. We are old and ancient. We're not gonna lie, but we don't care.

Yep. And

the roller skated roller skated with froze that would that would turn 2 seconds after they turn their head. Sit there and turn

packed on that roller skating rink. Man, you could barely move. There were so many people, but that was the place to be. Oh, yeah. Love those days.

So you've got now let's let's go ahead and let's let's look at a little bit of that. We'll that'll be another segment we need to come up with. 1 is Ron's rink. Yeah, guys. Audience, we're since we're still kind of, you're kind of getting a a backstage pass to to our whole line of thinking. So coming up with different, different little, little fun segments and stuff that we may cough up from time to time. I was thinking, like, having Rich's Ron's, or Rich's, ham sandwich

Dude, me. Oh, yeah. Me and root beer are having a problem tonight.

I'll tell him. Why you wanna so why do you wanna bring dude into your root beer problem?

Because because you you're dude, man. You're you're you're just dude.

So okay. Enlight me with your root beer problem. I do. I do all that.

I'm glad you're the one that asked, Ron, because I'm, there I'm scared to have asked that. Like, oh, okay. Because he doesn't have any ice cream. Well, if you because if you ask an old man, and he you hear him say I'm having problems with some type of food product. There's probably something smelly going on too. I don't know which end it's coming out of, but there sounds like there's some type of intestinal distress going on. I don't know what's going what's, like, what's

No. No. No. It just it just normally normally, I can I can sit here, like, like, on our calls and, like, drink water, drink root beer, drink coffee, drink whatever, and and make it through just fine? And then and then after we get done, I I have to go to use the bathroom. This is the 2nd time since we started this that that that I've had to turn my mic off and go drain the main vein. You know? So

Root beer is root beer the the rent on the root beer is expensive this this, time.

It's very expensive.

And root beer ain't cheap. I ain't gonna lie. Root beer is not cheap. Oh, no. I was noticing that it looked like it was just kind of the generic root beer. It's not a it's not the high quality barks.

So Oh, oh, I love barks, but I do too. They want 799, a 12 pack down here for it. A 12 pack? 12 pack, dude. 799.

God bless. And

this this one here is is the best choice.

Yeah. This was the Walmart brand.

It was the 549.

Gee. I wonder I guess guess the root beer, plant is, is getting a bit scarce.

I guess. I don't know, man. It's but I don't buy it all the time and just buy it once in a while. But a 12 pack 12 pack normally last me about a week, week and a half.

Oh, okay.

Because I see. Well, hella got it, man. 549 for a 12 pack. That's expensive.

Yep. Louds Shit. Air is getting more expensive.

What's that? Is that better?

Yeah.

Harris doesn't mean it's it's it's charging us.

Hey. Yeah. I'm surprised they have not figured out a way yet with this. What are we in right now? Inflation?

Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah. Well, we're in the middle. We're in the middle of

recession. Whatever it is, we're in the middle of nobody has enough fucking money

for food. Well, that's true.

It is fucking ridiculous.

Food's expensive. I ain't gonna lie.

Yeah.

Stupid expensive. Yeah. From Yeah. From how long ago?

What? That's

a change of the presidency.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's for damn sure it is.

That's that's the only Yep. Well, it stage of the president. They're

a lot of the reason that it's getting to be as as expensive as it is. I mean, you look at what they're what they're doing with just beef itself. I mean, you've got you've got all, all 3, of the, slaughter, companies kinda joining together. 1, they're trying to come up with their own form, of fake meat, but then you also just well, like the, the panhandle fire, the the, smokehouse creek, fire that they,

Oh, wow. Now, now the thing is, I I'll hold on here. But they're but the people are people are,

yeah. We're we've lost a lot of the, lot of the the ranchers that are in the Texas pant, Texas and Oklahoma, area.

Well, yeah. And say and say that's a sad thing. And and basically what is fucking government wants to get up in it, which which they've actually been up in it. They just wanna control more of it and and, and, control the prices and, make all the profits in that gum self.

I mean, that's that's You've got what's his name? Larry Fink, which is just the all, if they're in a better comic book name for a villain, Larry Fink, who is the head of, the head of black, which is the largest, investment firm out there. Has actually even said that they need, their aim is to commoditize the cattle. They're actually wanting to go in and see. Hey. How many heads of cattle do you have?

I mean, they're wanting to be able to control it to that granular level. Okay. Hold on. Hold on now. I mean, yeah. Okay. This is something, this is something I never understood, and I don't think anybody can actually put my mind at ease about it. If if everyone is worried about how a cow fucking farts over here in the US, Don't don't freaking cows fart over in China, South America, and Argentina.

Well, because we are, we have more money.

We are more Do we have more money? China. What you wanna bet China has more money in us. You know, China owns China has most of our, has most of our our debt. Yes. Yeah.

And but at the same time, they're actually they're struggling. Really? They're they're oh, yeah. They're they we have the nay the the the world itself, all these all these, like, the world economic forum and all, and all these dip wads who think they they know know all their know all that needs to be known. And, you know, you have, what is the, modern monetary theory where it's essentially Kiese and, theory of you can spend yourself out of debt.

Yeah. That's why. It's like, oh, oh, no. It's just a good news. That's why that's why single moms can't buy formula for their kids. Right. That's why exactly.

And they've their their excuses. Oh, well, debt took off too quickly. Oh, no. The fact that we are not debt, but, inflation took off too fast. It's like, no. Inflation anytime is bad. Inflation is theft. Yeah, it is. Because your $1 that you think you have is actually worth, you know, 75¢. And so you now, instead of having to spend a buck, $2 for, for a Coke, you're now actually having to spend 3, 3.50.

Right. Right. Yeah. I know that.

So if you're selling something through apple, well, apple's going to charge you or it's gonna take right off the top 30% of your of your, and they just got finished getting sued over in over in European Union. And so they're like, oh, alright. Fine. And they're doing the bare minimum of what they're supposed to do, which is giving a really crappy experience, which is great. Right. They did the same thing with Google and where Google, they had too good of a product.

Right.

Their, their advertising model, the, or, which is how they make money was too good. And everybody's bitching. Well, there's, they're, they're doing, they're advertising their stuff over mine. Well, yeah. It's their damn shit, man. If you wanna have your own. If you wanna be get your stuff advertised over Google's, then make your own damn search engine that's better than Google.

Right. Right.

Yeah. So, and that's the, that's the, the main complaint that I've had even with with, back when, they decided they wanted to try to break up Microsoft. Yeah. The same thing. Microsoft was too damn good. Yeah. Microsoft had, and it, it wasn't because of the browser. Everybody knows it wasn't because of the browser. That's the excuse. They said, well, like you, they, get internet explorers on there automatically. It was on there automatically

to Chrome. And opera and start and opera. And it was because all kinds internet Explorer

was crappy. We knew that, but brand new internet users were just going well, there's internet Explorer that works for me. And that did, it did the job. It did the job very poorly until people realized, oh, wait a minute. Firefox runs a little better and

they discovered it. Well, it's and you see something else something else too. And and I mean, you know, if I'm wrong, say something. But Apple, Microsoft, and Google all built their shit from the ground up.

Yeah. And they made them really goddamn good. And And and and now everybody's pissed because, oh my God, you've got all this. We can't compete. You've got a monopoly. Well, monopolies are actually a good thing. Yeah. I'm one of those. And I am a, of course, I am a firm believer as to what I am Rand said about what capitalism is. If you were to make a Laissez Fair Capitalistic Society, you would have, you would still have

Okay.

And it is the reason that we now have the reason why, like, Ma Bell, the, the telephone company, bell telephone. Right. Was, was a, a natural monopoly. It was created by the government. And that is why all the way up into the seventies, you had the black bowling ball telephone. That were heavy and that, and you didn't actually own that telephone. You rented it. It's like the, like the cable boxes.

Right.

Right. You, you actually had to rent the telephone to be able to talk to people. And it wasn't until they did busted up the, the, the telephone companies busted up Ma Bell and took away their opportunity to hold the to hold that that extreme. And all of a sudden took all the the telephone, companies broke them up into little bit of kingdoms where you still yours might have southwestern bell is gonna be your telephone, provider for, you know, for the Amarillo area.

Right.

Which then then eventually it it crumbled and went under and it, went to winds. I think Windstream has it now. I don't know who all it bounced around to from there. But then all the prices started going down be because, you, in introduced competition, but you, we wouldn't even had to worry about that if the government off right off the bat, didn't say, hey, this is, you're the only one who could actually have a, do the telephone.

That very well could be.

And I'll, I get that. But then again, you could also rent, you know, they, he could have rented the lines out. He could have made a lot more money if he had actually right. Had tried to be the best instead of just trying to hold a, a monopoly. And because when the government gets involved, that gets the monopoly that everybody's afraid of.

Right.

That's the monopoly that, oh, there's no innovation. Well, no shit. There wasn't any innovation. We had invisible telephones. We had phones. You could see the guts on and that lit up after, after they busted it up. You know, we had the Snoopy phone and the Mickey Mouse phone and all the great phone. The phone Yeah. The the lip phone and The football phone. Yeah. The football phone. I mean, we had all these great and wonderful phones in the late seventies,

All right. Sounds like the sounds like the doctor Demento show.

They did. They had doctor Bento on Saturday mornings. Really? So yeah. Yep. You got, poisoning pigeons in the park and, and, kick to the boot to the head and, and and all those greats. So the Scotsman, another great, another great, song. So, oh, heck yeah. It's where I first got introduced to, to weird Al.

Oh my gosh. That that's crazy.

Mine was KRFX 1035. 1035.

Mine was 967 KCFM.

And believe it or not, they're still rolling with the Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Well, z 93 is 2, except I don't, actually, I don't even know if they still call it z 93. I think it I know that they'll play the same music. It's more hip hop now, but

but, there Everything is hip hop except for, you know, the stuff that we like to listen to, then you have to get theories or, what is the other one that I have? Hold on. Iheartradio with the, company.

So here here's a here's a something to help the younger kids and younger folks who are listening. When you were growing up, did y'all have a radio station that was called the cat?

Oh, the cat.

Yeah. Usually spelled with k, it was k a t. Yeah. That that is something it would always be it seemed like every town I went to that had a radio station like Dallas. Dallas had a cat. They also had the zoo, which was a, a great rock station. Oh my god. The rock station. Yeah. Yeah. Dallas was the base. That one in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that one. But there was a, there was always seemed to be, everybody had a radio station that was called the cat.

Oh, wow.

And, so I was just I didn't I and I was just kinda checking to see if y'all where y'all grew up at, if y'all had a cat also. Because that's just kinda been one of those things that I've always kinda been fascinated by was, the whole cat. Ours was, like, 10 49, 1048, 7, something like that. It was is that on the farther end of the of the dial? It wasn't quite the middle.

But No. We up in Lincoln, Nebraska, we didn't have the cat. Okay.

Well, we,

the only However, you just talked about, the zoo. Yeah. Man, that is an excellent song. And who sings the zoo?

I didn't Yeah. I do. I I I would Fail with that trivia.

Well I'll get back with you on that. Okay. Scorpions scorpions things the zoo.

Oh,

I don't think I heard that one. Oh, that's that's the one I haven't heard. Yeah. Oh, you're gonna have to get on Scorpions

and the zoo. Excellent song.

So Yeah. No. I'm I remember as close as I can come to anything resembling a cat is 933, the fox. Ah, okay. So, yeah. No. That's, I mean, yeah. As far as yeah. Cat. I

and Oh, god. I just remembered something.

But

Me and a friend, we used to sit around and we used to make this, and I couldn't even remember how to make it, but we used to drink, make this concoction from time to time Whenever I had the ex had, everything paid off, and I had, you know, even had a really good good paycheck where I had, like, maybe 5, $10 extra. Mhmm. We'd sit down and split as, share, me and our roommate, we would share, put, our money together and we would buy the ingredients for something that we called moose piss.

You know, the Greek.

Yeah. Yeah. And we've that, and there was a couple other, items that were thrown in there and we would sit around and we would drink this thing, this crap until we would just be just slobber and drunk. But we had fun. We came up with the best radio station and all the plugs for it. And it was K O C K the cock. And we could wake up in the morning with the big cock, You know?

I've been sitting there for 6 years.

It's been 6. And, and I, I actually am fully understand if you don't step on the gas, the moment that puppy turns green and people honk at you, they know they're gonna be there for another 2 years and they do not wanna wait that long. And so I get it. I'm like, I hear a beep most of the time. I I'm I'll depending on what town I'm in. Because if if I'm, like, in in a in a rougher part a rougher town, I won't do this just because I I do I like to live.

learn. Yeah. I mean, I mean, teach these kids, but you see, the thing is they freaking went to college to be a teacher and look at how they were taught. Yeah. So so they're just they're just going along with the, you know, cycle.

Right. And like great, the late great brush Limbaugh said, they were just a bunch of school skulls full of mush. Right. And and, yeah, we, even at my whenever I was in college and, heard that, and I was just like, oh my god, what the goal of this? You know, I would get mad at the fact of it of him calling

Hey. Hey, Ron. Ron, do you wanna weigh on this? Do you wanna weigh on it? Go ahead. What's what's that, dude? What's that, dude?

Dude. What do I wanna weigh in on?

Any of what we've been talking about. Anything.

I mean, the teachers head, your head popping out your ass, you know, whatever.

It's how good Loud and thunderous kaboom. Kinda like Marvin kinda like Marvin and the Martian. Marvin the Marvin the Martian. What happened to the earth shattering kaboom? Yeah. There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom. Bet you. Looney Tunes. Yes. Then there was the The plutonium

p 38 space modulator?

Yes. Yeah. You know, it's a Yeah. I can't remember when my head popped out of my ass. I think it might have been last week, maybe. No. Maybe yesterday. I don't know. What? Maybe 2 weeks ago? Possibly. Okay. It it it hasn't been too long ago. Oh, okay. After I think it was after our retired. But

Dude, you're still working. You haven't retired yet.

Yeah. I know. I can't freaking afford to retire, but, you know, that's my life. My I should say my dumpster fire of a life. But, you know Well, you do know that,

that that, in there is no word for retirement for in the Hebrew language. Right?

Well, okay.

And the reason why is because they there. There was no reason to 1. Well, 1, when men retire, typically they only last 5 years after retirement. And then they die. The reason is that's probably what who died? Most men, when they retire, they don't, they, they don't have a purpose. They, they retire thinking that they're just gonna be able to just sit around and do nothing. And that is a guaranteed way of that's just a slow suicide.

Yes, it is.

And so that's why you see so many older men who are still alive, who go and work at Walmart, even if it's just as a greeter.

Get your shit and get out. Get your shit. Yeah. So Welcome to Walmart. Get your shit and get out.

Yeah. Get out as soon as I see your receipt.

Oh, fuck that. I just want Oh, yeah. Oh, no. And that's something me and my wife don't do. We won't we don't play the recipient. Well, sometimes we will.

Why? You know? Okay. You can't trust me to be my own cashier?

Exactly. If you're wanting me, if you're expecting to try to please me, because I'm now doing a self checkout thing that you wanted me to do, That's your bad, man. That's on you. Oh, yeah. I I I personally still go through the, through the, the other registers. I like to have the other person check out because I like to make sure that the other person is being paid for what they're being paid for. Right. Right. Oh, I no. No. I don't I don't use a self checkout

unless I don't

have a choice. You know? Right. And But at the same time the bad and the bad thing about it is is I did not get either a w 2 or a 1099 from Walmart. That's right.

Yeah. For big checker. Yeah. They they essentially have got you got you for free labor. And

so if they if they want to go check your receipt, check your receipt to make sure you didn't steal from them. Yeah. Now kiss my hat. And that's and that's why me and my wife both, if we're, if,

if, if there is a line of people who are waiting to check out, which is usually around the Christmas time, They'll go, can we see res, see a receipt? I'll hand the receipt and I'll just keep walking. And I don't even know that. You get from the people are what the hell you don't don't you what you I don't care if they had a receipt. I'm I bought my food. If I eat it and I don't like it, it's, am I gonna be able to return the turd to you and go, I want my money back.

Well, well, the thing is, what about what about the the the the 500 cameras that they have in Walmart? Oh, yeah. And and and they still think they have to put someone at the exit door. Oh, I need to see your receipt. You you're gonna

have to I know you don't have a, don't have a purpose and that they're trying to find something for you to do. And god bless you. I mean, there's one guy. I think his name's Kevin. And, and so I've gotten around to talking with him a little bit. But, but most of the time, I we go through

No way way.

Now you can get, you can get the Purina, you know, and that's still $30. Oh, wow. For a 40 pound bag. That's crazy. That's, you know, you're getting the the the shit, scraps of of the shit scraps. Right. That because this is the stuff even the premium dog food people are going, ew. That's that's crap. Oh, that's bad. That's it. It's the stuff the navy won't even beat. They're going, yeah. We're not gonna give that, you know Oh, damn. And then they We've had stuff like that.

ship. That would be cool.

And I mean, granted it was it was not red lobster style lobster tails because, I mean, it was, it, they, they, when you're cooking that much food, you can't make it Great. Great. It's go, it's gonna come out as, it's all right. It's pretty good. Right. Cause I mean, cause you ain't got to have lobster. They were still in the tail and all that, and you had to cut it out. But at the same time, it was overcooked lobster, so it was a rubber.

just completely. So

but it would, I mean, it is, but at the same time, when it came to like, like Thanksgiving, say we were, we were had actually entered the straights of hormoos and we're just going up to, up to, the Persian Gulf during, on Thanksgiving day. This just happened. How how the, everything all ended up. And we still had kick ass her. Granted, I was working down the chief's mess. So I had incredible

prime flavor right there. What, dude, what the hell are you doing? I'm I wash my shit. I'm going No. It yeah. No. No. That's wrong. That's dude,

I will wash that pantina off every single time. No.

You're taking off, man.

You you don't That's almost as that's almost as bad as the, as the line off of, no country for old men when, Tommy Lee Jones goes in to see his uncle. Uh-huh. I think it was his uncle anyhow. And, he goes to pour the cop goes to pour the coffee, and then he stops. And he looks at him and goes, is this fresh? And he's like, I make a new, new pot once a week whether I need it or not. Oh my god. Holy crap. We go copy. Oh my god. What is pro I've had copy

normal. Take it out. Rinse it out. Make another pot. You're good. Wash it out. Scrub it out. No. No. No. Rinse. Rinse. I didn't say I didn't say nothing about no washing. I said rinse. No. I'm washing. No. You don't have to wash. Just rinse it. No. No. You you Yeah. Why. Yeah. No. No. Just just rinse it out and make you another pot. It'll be fine. If you

agree with Rit or disagree with rich, our Chelsea atgmail dot com. Let him know. Oh, hold it. Hold it. You haven't even you haven't even given out your email yet. No. I haven't given my email out yet. Why not? It's it's going because we haven't gotten to the closing yet.

So hold it. We don't we don't we don't have to wait till the closing.

Well well, when you get if you get yourself in word, any word in edgewise, then throw them on that and throw throw circle cast at g mail dot com. Yeah. Circle cast at gmaildot com because That is circle. Was it a round thing? Cast is in, like, a, like, a fish casting. All one word, no spaces, nothing@gmail.com. And you'll when you tap it in, in Gmail, you'll see my big old grill show pop up in there. So so you

And and see, we ain't even gonna do my email address.

Oh my god. Dude, you yeah.

Yeah. People would just go nuts. And the reason why is because I don't check my email, my address. I don't check email. I might, once a week, see, okay, all the Gmails that I've gotten from whatever sources and just start going through and delete.

But dude, hang on. Hang on, dude. What what happens if if, like, everyone starts to like you and and want to get in touch with you, man? I mean

So we just give you a phone number?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give them my phone number. Yeah. That's that's that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Dude, we'll do we'll do my we'll do my Gmail. Start getting crank calls at 3 o'clock in the morning. Dude,

Dude, you can have your own fan base, man. Think about it. People be be just, you know you know, paying base on on you just because your name is dude.

Just because my name is dude. Well, dude is gonna hold off just a little while. I wanna see how I wanna see how you guys is go because I I seriously do not check my Gmail. I don't believe it. I pro I probably have 400 emails that I haven't opened or looked at. Well Mhmm. Easily 400.

Just saying you probably don't need to. So, yeah, I would mess delete them.

Just go ahead and just declare email bankruptcy and start fresh.

Yeah. No kidding.

Email labels. About once a year. I'll there's, I've got a, one one, set of labels that I hold on to, and it's it's called family. And it's because I've actually got emails still from my dad Uh-huh. And who's been gone for 12 no, 14 years now. Oh, wow. Goddamn. That's a long time. So but, yeah, he's been gone since, 2010, and I've still got some of his old, his old emails.

That must not be important. Damn it, dad. You know, it was, it was a cure to cancer probably. And he couldn't read it. So he just, yeah, it was like, just like, yeah. Okay.

So, but anyhow, so, yeah. Alright. Well, guys, we are gonna be we're in the, the final 10 minutes or 15 minutes or so of the, of the show. So I wanted to just say that typically you're in this area, wanted to start kind of bringing it around and start this being a value for value show. What is value for value? I kind of started to talk about it. And then we went off on a tirade, found a, found a, rabbit trail and just got completely lost. So bringing it back home.

We're gonna be able to do

art links. Yeah. And if you do send us not graphic designers, by the way. Oh, no. No. I mean, I, the, the, the, the, the actual album art, it was something that I was able to just do through Canva. And I, I can, I can manage, but, oh, people can do so much better than I can? They make it a whole lot more simpler. And I, and I love sip the, the, the beauty of simplicity is, is, is the great one.

Well, I, well, we could do a discord or, I mean, or, or, or, or,

or we could do discord. We could do, yeah. I mean, there's many, many, many, many different things that we could do. And it's all just, it doesn't matter. Simple because dude is technically challenged. Billy Fetzner (zero forty six:fifty seven): Well, yeah, that's what we're gonna do is we, we wanna confuse the hell out of dude and get him as uncomfortable as possible because he claims that he is technically, deficient. And

this is where Very very and I can and I completely and and do completely understands that and is appreciative. I just wanna break in and add one note to our overall conversation as for the 3 of us being veterans. Right now, we have a crisis in our country. It's 22 a day veteran suicide rate. If you know a veteran, and I'm talking to everybody out there, if you know a veteran that is struggling, talk to them. There's a lot of people that a lot of veterans, all they wanna do is talk.

988. Dial 988 and make sure you press 1. You will talk to a veteran or a family member of a veteran, someone who knows veterans. Absolutely. 988 dial 988 on on your phone and press 1. And you and you don't have to, call just because you're suicidal. You if you're having a bad day, call them and talk to them. That's what they're here for. Yeah. They don't care. So

and also, we ask

go ahead. We may be a grump we may be a group of grumpy vets. However, we are very vet

Help me out, guys. Senator. We're very pro pro vet. Well, here we go. We're pro vet. Centric.

Yeah. Centric. Yeah. See? 9:53 at night, Brian's throwing out them big words. My brain don't work after 2 in the afternoon. So so, but anyhow, we are a veteran.

If anybody is who's listening is a veteran, doesn't matter whether you're a guy or a girl, just, but if you're a veteran and you would like to be a part of a group, I, like I said, I, we have the veterans call. It comes up every Wednesday, 8 o'clock, from 8 o'clock to 10 o'clock is what when we're normally talking. And that's, central time. Gonna make sure we do send lay the central time out. Shoot the email over to either me or or Rich, and I will get you added into, into the Zoom,

no no cost to it. Nope. Just jump on and and talk. In our system. So, Hey, how you doing? How's your mom and them?

Exactly. And, and we'll have it. It's been a while. Hell, yeah. And we'll and we're always glad to have have new folks there for a while. We were having about 6 or 7 people who were all on, at once. But if we, you know, if we turn around and we start having, you know, get 10, 12 people at a time, that's awesome. That's great. It's not that we're all gonna be able to talk all at once, and then it's okay. We're just not there to be able to talk all at once, but we can

You know, be us. That's it. With with no

judgment.

Thank you. Well, we judge you, but it's, but it's a good judgment. Well, I mean Yes. I I mean, vets judge other vets anyway. I mean, we've done Oh, hell yeah. From the time we joined in. But Yeah. Yeah. But still, no. I mean, I mean, you know, if you wanna dance in a pink tutu, hey, you do you, boo. That's, I mean, that's fine. You do you. I I don't have a problem with it. Just know I'm not dancing in a pink tutu.

No. No. He wears the red bikini. So

and see, his isn't pink. It's purple, but it's not a 22. It's a 44.

Oh

my, so, oh, so guys also, one other thing that we I'd like to add right before we, pose this all up is one of the things that we can do with a podcast 2.0 is you can actually, compliant app is you can actually send us what's called boostograms. And these are messages that get sent instantly. They arrive to our, arrive to our wallet.

Honestly, though, I would go to,

where's the podcast index., dot org and just hit there. Or or actually Yeah. That's right. That's right. Podcasting2.org.

That's that's another good

one. They have got a list of all the, of all the apps and they can tell you whether it's for apple or Android or and and they got it all sorted out. It's great stuff. And Yeah. And and yes, you can with a podcasting 2.0 app, you can get regular podcasts. So Yeah. Yeah. You're still able to download all the others. It's just podcasting 2.0 has extra fancy stuff, and this is what's underneath the hood, how the sauce is made. There's things called name spaces.

Yeah. And what So we can do a live item tag,

which is, our lit tag. And that tells us that tells the, the, the podcast player, Hey, this person is lot broadcasting live right now. And you can actually go on and you can either watch if they support video or listen, if they're just audio and you'd be able to hear what the, and you can still send boostograms. Yeah. Now you can there's, you can, jump back and forth on like I said, we there's chapter support.

There is quite a few. I just that's just I was just gonna say, you know, maybe maybe we can, oh, damn. Where'd you go? There you are. You, like, vanished for a second. Oh, yeah. I I was having a pretzel. Oh, okay. But, you know, I was thinking I was thinking, you know, we break these people in a little slower, you know, because the information that you're throwing out, I mean, my head's starting to go crazy right now. It's like it's like I mean, I'm I'm learning all this stuff.

And we ain't gonna talk to you. Another one.

So so

And dude is just, we we ain't gonna go there. Now head past swimming point.

Oh, hang on. Hang on, dude. We will hook you up with with with, what you need, but now we'll be we'll be explaining more and more about podcasting 2.0 as we go along. Oh, yeah. It's it's it's actually a lot of fun. It's it's exciting. It's new, but it's there's a lot that, yeah, we haven't realized yet.

Right. And But, also, guys, just as we're wrap it up, couple, couple other, small requests. If you want to provide your talent and tread talent and time with, there's a few segments that I would like to go ahead and get some That's That's the one I just got finished writing down also Brian's word of the day. And these are, when I say short, I mean real short, like maybe no more than like 5 seconds. If we can, if we can get it that short, another one is shit. Brian knows shit. Rich knows

Scorpions or ACDC.

Or any of the or ACDC or anything like that in there because we won't be able to use it because, we will get an, DMCA take down and that's no good. That's no good. That is no Bueno. So so, a good place if you wanna if you're wanting music, good place to go. And also is also, podcast. It's actually music 2.0 compliant is, wave lake is a great place to go and and, listen to music.

No. No. No. Wav Lake, you know, explain this if they haven't heard of it. Wav Lake, w a b. Yeah. WAV is in is in a audio file, w a v or or as the British call it, WAV. WAV leg. I'm sorry. Yeah. LA K E because because when I tried, I was using like wave, like you wave at somebody

and it wasn't working. No. It's a sound. It's a sound wave. Yeah.

So so yeah. But, no. Their, SoundCloud's got got royalty free music.

That one's a lot of times it's DJs using using, copyrighted music. And that's one of the big that's the, that's kind of a, of a hinky. So if you're, if you do, and you've got permission to use the music from, you know, like, if someone's doing a doing a remix of, of, of say Halloween,

not most yeah. No. No. You see you see that thing, most of that is, locked up. But you see, if you look like I think it's at the cc 4, cc 4 tags, I think, are are royalty free. You don't need permission. You don't need to, attribute even though we will attribute if we find out who who made the song. Because, I mean, we

we want to recognize them just as, you know, just as And also whenever yeah. Especially if you do, like, wave lake, send us the artist's name also of any music that you use in there because what we do is we put a split in our in our feed so that anytime, anytime y'all boost to us, that artist is gonna get a percentage of that boost also.

And then if you don't have one, we'll we'll try that. If you don't have one,

there's there's a lot of re there's several not a lot. There's several resources, though, that you can turn to and, be able to get a a lightning wallet set up? Because it's not a Bitcoin wallet. It's light we use the lightning, network. Off chain network, which is a little bit different. It still uses Bitcoin, the Bitcoin value, but it what it does is takes it off off the chain

But, yeah, we'll be we'll be we'll be saying more about this as we go on because, I mean, we want everybody to, you know, experience this.

All of y'all's. Yeah. Yeah.

It's but but yeah. I'm hearing that.

Any, any last words, any y'all need to drop?

I think I'm pretty good right now.

How about you, dude? Well, dude is pretty good. Alright, dude. That's good.

Alright. Well, guys, y'all take care. Y'all have yourselves a great rest of the week. We will see y'all next Thursday at 7 o'clock. And might even by then, we might have even got, got the live, live tag figured out and, and start being able to go live too. So as soon as we figure that get that one nailed down, we'll you'll you'll start, you'll start noticing it. So, alright, guys. Y'all take care. We'll catch y'all later. Take it easy. And again, if you need help,

Talk to you later, dude, signing off.