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kinda stiff him a couple weeks ago. You're like, hey. I'm in your town. I was out of town coming back. It's like, yeah, I'll give you a shout I when get back. Totally didn't do it. Man I ended up leaving early that. Oh, you did. Okay. So it's all good. So then he text me today Like, hey, I'm back in town. I'm like, alright. Yes. Don't chance to redeem myself. Don't tell me left Early. Be like, yeah It was waiting off your house or. This is staring at that phone. You.
No. Much too cool for that. So Yeah. In town to do some training, And is that what you're doing last time You're here too? Yeah. Raining. Yep. Com training. Yep. Yep. So what... What's been new in your world, man You probably been all... Year all's up to something all winter in spring and... Yeah. Currently, I just kind of taken a different job. That's more 2 on 2 off structure. Nice. So I can have some time off staying out with my family.
So I'm in town to do ground school and then hopefully start flight trading at the end of this week? Nice. Well, that should hopefully, like, you know, that kind of schedule should give you a little bit more flexibility during hunt season. Absolutely. This that's that's where you were hose. Yeah. That's the schedule I had for 10 years, and I loved it, you know, 2 on 2 off, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, and then I would take my wife and kids up to Moose camp for, like, 10 days. And
yeah. It was not rushed. It was awesome. Yeah. And nowadays you know, flying floats, you're... You have to be there during move season, you know also... Yeah. I'm looking forward to more time with the family. Yeah. For sure. It's yeah. It's funny How. Funny. How that how that... Know, ref flying a lot of hunters. Yeah. Yeah. We're adding up with meat from them? Yeah. I took some. I took some ribs from the younger was said they shot. Right on. That were clean enough. Right? Right.
Yeah. We're... Arthur all comments on the... When we get get the meat back. I'm always proud of it. We're gonna get it back here and get it hung up and peel the bags off. And it's there's nothing like that. Picking, like, a little piece of grass off here and there. Nope. I'm just listening to a podcast on their way over here if somebody completely like, I use to only 1 person on the animal at a time with a knife because I don't wanna get cut as an excuse because I'm so anal about
my mean. I don't want hair, any kind, like, pieces of tundra to you them... No. This is them saying that. And I was like, man. That's a... Yeah. Yeah. That's solid being in the wrong spot. Right. Exactly. So, yeah, that were using the that don't cut me. As excuse for, like, that's a eat nazi. Yeah. But it real... I mean, like, you could always end up in a shitty situation where there's nothing you can do, but like, really, it's not that usually that tough. You're just
like a little careful. Even late at night, you know, just like, take a little bit of extra time That's all it is and extra time. It all it really is to keep me clean. I've been given some stuff before, then I was like, yeah, you can keep that. I'm all set. Yeah. That or what I was I was laugh at. I see, you know, people with their bears that, like, the the hide... They got it, like, stretched out skin down on a gravel bar. And like, whoever you're pain to flesh that? It's not be happy.
But Yeah. Did you get... Did you end up getting out after seals this spring? I went once, and we shot for, but it wasn't It wasn't enough I go, like, 2 or 3 times. Yeah. I just... Between work and time off. I just I'm not not paying off between work and whether I didn't have many opportunities. Yeah. Well, you probably got, like, a maybe. And, like, hear a little more... But, I think we talked about last time you're on the podcast a little bit but
be cool to, like, here. Because I imagine you got, like, you gotta deal with, like, correct, like, good water and weather conditions. Yep. And, like, have the ice be close enough. Yep. I mean... You have to have c ice and calm calm weather. And then when it Sunny helps too because you you could see a lot more heads in the water so you're looking at tiny heads, you know? Yeah. Why do you have to have C? These they follow the C. Okay.
So, like, in the wintertime, the ice builds it from the north pole towards... Right. Kinda where we're at is where it stops. Some winters it goes all the way down to keep keep new nam. And the ice pushes the seals down. So we're at the very bottom, and in March when it warms up, the ice starts moving up fast and we only have a few days to get after the Series had... They're great to move all 1 behind it. Yep. Okay. So you're kinda getting them where they're concentrated on
the edge of the space serve. And so this year was 1 of those years where the wind push ice out Oh, gotcha. No matter if, like, the week. So... Yeah. Last year, the ice was all the way that keep moon him for a long time it was awesome. Nice. Because you do you start getting like, little potholes holes and leads that you can go hunt and stuff when it hangs around longer? Yeah. Pretty much too. Keep It's like chuck video, like that's looks so cool, like chuck video, Mh button walrus and stuff.
Some of the stuff he get into. Well, when I... You know, when Roy Roy Randall was alive when I working at... When I first started working at the lodge. I mean, that's all he did for years. Yeah. I don't know. Whenever you removed there our late fifties or early sixties to 73. That's all I did with Shots sea lines and seals and a lot different around Ko. Yeah. Now. You're not worried about ice at all to to retain them that they're just there all the time. So you're just basically.
I mean, the way he explained it to me was he'd have... He'd get dropped off on a rock pile, and he'd just sit there and, you know, until they're wise to what you're doing you just shoot them and then the other ones will pop up, you shoot another 1 and they all float. You shoot them. They float You just kinda The there's the salt is so dense that they float. Yeah. We're at in the C bay. It's mixed with a little bit of fresh water. Mh. And that's why we prefer to shoot them on the sea ice.
Okay. You you have less chance of losing them. There we go. Right on. That makes a ton of sense. Yeah. Do you get... You guys the, ga them or something when you take pop... Okay. Yeah. Hard put them. And there's certain times where you wanna shoot or you don't shoot, you know? Yeah. Like, the bigger beard deals, you don't wanna shoot them right before they dive because they exhale. Oh, gotcha. So usually, we like to shoot them when they're swimming away.
Because it... When he shoot them there, they just kinda, like it chap it here and they float... You have they float better more time to retrieve it. Mh nice. It's like the grown up version of shooting beaver in the river. Yeah. Or shoot them on the ice when they're sleeping. That's the best. Yeah. You. Sac them and then there... You don't even have to worry about it. They're not going anywhere. Yep. Right on. So is it just beard seals? Or is there... No. We shoot some spotted seals.
And then we shoot ring teal. Ring teal only grow to be about... I don't know. It's like a really big beaver. Yeah. Okay. But the ring peels and the beard peels, they eat a lot of k, and I think that's why they have better tasting oil and then the spotted seal, they just... They eat anything, man. I've seen them meat yellow fin and any kinds of fish that they can they can get a hold of, and then beard seals. I don't know too much about them, but I know the eat k and clams.
And those are really good eating, like they make the best dry meat. And then with the bearded seal oil that oil turns kind of yellowish, like reddish. Yeah. But, like, when you render it down. Mh. But it tastes fine. And then the ring till makes a very clear oil. That's pretty tasty. Okay. Yep. No seal hunt around here. No shit. Here to state the obvious, I guess. But... Yeah. Man, it's been... I don't know It's I don't know about... It's probably been
busy for you. It just seems like It seems like it's like 5 weeks away and we're sheep hunting. And it is. Basically Yeah. Isn't that nuts. That just came to me this morning. And I was like walking things take care of. Yeah. I walk off into the mountains, holy shit. Yeah. I mean, it comes fast every year, but jeez, yeah. This like filth. Summer hit pretty quick this year. Felt like I haven't been able to breathe. Of course, I've, you know, been busy doing stuff and
killing bears and whatnot. But you've been building Yeah, nonstop every day. Except for the last 3. I finally got the roof on and took off. Went the cabin. Yeah. Cobra recuperate. Yeah it was pretty tall roof. Like, I hadn't... I hadn't worked a real job in a few years and Over there to help hunt hand, like, sheets plywood up right from the second floor up through the raptor so he can cheat it. And I'm like, man. I freaking don't like extension ladders anymore than I used to.
Yeah. No. I don't like groups anymore either. That was... I don't know. 10 years ago I to run right down to the edge of that thing and been, like, leaned over over the edge bang the drip edge on with roof and nails and man, I got, like, 3 feet away from the peak. Start like, we're gonna need a lift, to start getting woo know about Woo. I'm just like, man, it's a long way down, like, 10:15 years ago, I might be like, I
could probably bounce. And be okay. Now I'm like, man, I didn't probably break a leg. All her bone something. Yeah. Well, you were talking about going... When was it... You went snowboarding again? Gu you Tal? Yeah. It was a few years ago. In Es the last time I had been on this snow award was here in Fair ranks or Moose Mountain when I was 10 years old. Yeah. I had been 10:15 years since And, yeah. I just... I wrecked myself dude, like, I could log for 2 days.
Yeah. Well, I hurt myself. Like, I just can't even hardly get out of bed. I hurting myself. I bait so hunt with my dad. Just me and my dad and we shot... He shot this. He shot a black bear was bow and we went not found it and I mean, it was kinda of my, like, Was telling you, like, I probably... I should've just smoked that G. It was, like, my my good opportunity for the season. We so briefly anyway. He shoots this bear runs off.
We go find it and they're, like, let's go grab that bear and drag it back to the boat. And this is the spot where Frank had to shoot the bear in the black bear in the mouth for like 10 feet. At high level. So, like, Steep Cut bank. Wow. This is... Yeah. That was a few years ago, but... That's a hard spot to get because you're coming out of the boat, up a bank and, like, as you're clearing the bank, the top of the... You're on... You're in the bait pile basically. I mean, we moved it back, like,
15 yards, but you're still right. There doesn't matter. It's not an ideal spot. And I even intended to bring, like, a little shovel tool or something to carve some steps. You know, and forgot, so I we'd kinda, like, half ass did it with a hatch it. And, anyway, he shoots his bear this black bear and That was the first time that bear had been to the bait, and we like, climb up in the stand Is it just been a big g in a sal in, like, 20 minutes. I'm like, dad there's
a huge bear cup. There's a huge black bear coming, and I took him while. He's a real nervous, but shot the bear thing ran off died, and we found it and was, like, let's go drag that bare back and then get back in the trees, and then hopefully those g will come. Took like, 3 steps back up into the woods and those g came like, running in. Wow. And I'm I'm like, well, there's those g sleeves like,
just talking to my dad. You're staying there up against this cut bank, you know, with I had my 03:38, and I wanted to shoot 1 of the 6 5 again, and my first thought was, like, which, you know, what whatever. III have no 1 to blame but myself if I wanna whine about not shooting G bear because I was like, oh, man, my other rifles in the boat. And, but they can't came running in and he's running around, like, kinda became aware of
us. I thought he was gonna try to run us off because like, they don't know what you are. Right. And he, like, runs this, you know, runs to the right, and then turns around goes back, stands up on all on his hi legs. I'm like, wow. That bears. Big. And and I had told my dad as soon as they they showed up I like, well, you might well go down to the boat and get that of the right retrieve that other their gun because you don't have 1. Yeah. And, he was close I mean, like, 15 yards
away the whole time. So I was, like, figured and he came back around to the left. I thought he was... Just trying to get around this log pile and was gonna run... I was just close enough that I was gonna wait until he was lined up on me, and then just shoot him in the head. Because at that point, if they start... You know, I shoot them body shooting them, and they start spinning around or whatever. Like, I don't have anywhere to run or or maneuver. And You can get down that bank quick. Yeah
real quick. Right the water right into water. But then he ran off, he ended running off and... We went got the bear, and I was, like, going down to the boat to get something and slipped, grabbed older like with my good arm, when my my good shoulder and just went kept sliding and stretched my lat must, like, tore something in my lap muscle.
Instantly, I was just, like, crippled up from that, and then we ended up getting the bear on the boat, and I was just fl just just so pathetic trying to skin that bear that night because I couldn't pull. I couldn't pull with my left hand. Right? And I'm thinking like, man. I hope I hope Can climb a tree tomorrow. And I end up being able to. I mean, it was really sore for a long time, but, can Yeah. Just can't even get of, like,
hurt myself left and right. And that dates has to add some They see they come in there too and they see the boat and they stop, and they like, look at the boat and they look at the bait, and they look back at the boat and they'll turn around and walk off. They're not gonna go... They just like, go back and then approach it to where they don't see the bow yeah, and come right and eat out of the bait anyhow. Yeah. He was... And That was a 7 foot barrels good bear.
He came. Initially, all I could see was his head like, through a... Little hole in the trees. I just happen to look up and see him coming down the bank from I'm on the left side. Yeah. On the left side. And... Because we can... We moved changed trees for the tree stands. That's why we moved the bait was because the tree that we'd been hanging stands in was like lean and real bad. Well, it's I mean, the river was how high. Into that.
Up into the woods the last year, which and I'm sure it ate away at that bank, and that tricks... That tree was... Perfect. Yeah. For 2 people to sit in and it had just enough lean where you could be, like, lean to get 2 guys could be leaned against the tree perfectly and 2 tree stan sitting like that. Yeah. And it was really nice. And when you said that I was like, then I said something to Rob and Rob's was like, well, yeah. The river was, like, 20 feet higher last year than it is this year.
Yeah. Going up some of those creek, it was like, you could see water line like, way up, it was pretty impressive. I don't know. Was that in the spring time or spring? Yeah. Spring flood? Yep. Yeah. Do you guys get much much ice jamming out on the cusp swim? Yeah. It actually jammed bright below Bethel this year. And from Bethel 2 sack, which is about 30 miles flooded both on the east and west side of the Cusco. And way up in the tundra g. I've never seen that before.
And it flooded so I had bethel that, we were pulling logs with the lu. Yeah. Through the ice. When we were done in the evening, we just bought right to my buddy Mo how. Like serious roads and stuff is is pretty. Because watching your stuff, like, that's in your firewood time. Right? During break up when, like, bunch of logs are come. That's the easiest way to get firewood because it's... I mean, it's just right there, you know Yeah. I I used to get firewood with the snow
machine, pulling a sled, but, yeah. It's so much wear and tear on your machine. Yeah. And you can only get a it's like, no you can't get that much. Right? Each trip. Yep. And we pulled, like, 20... Logs that were over 60 feet. So. Yeah. You could pull them pretty easy with the boat. But Yeah. Kind Maybe I pulled them through the ice. Yeah. 1 of 1 of the logs we got was 84 feet long piece. And Had the come swift river. Yeah. It was it was a good piece of wood there.
That tree is probably, like, 300 years old something chop it up and burn it. On its on its way out, do do those logs end up eating through your chains pretty good You get a bunch of silk in them or not too bad? Yeah. Some some of them are filled with silk sand and rocks. But we usually, we'll pull them up by the house and then cut them in sections and then load them up with the forklift. Nice. Then let them dry for a year or 2, what? And Yeah. It was a good good spring flood this year is couple.
Does anybody have a mill Do you put any of that stuff on a mill make people that have meals. Yeah. Yeah. My my buddy Brent just got 1 from the school and he's been milling logs. Nice. Yeah Well, because that was out at the lodge, like a lot of the... I don't know if all, but a lot of that lumber was from just drift stuff. Right? Well, everything like you we spend all spring bear season. You're going around looking at beaches for bears.
And the beaches that they like to be on or, like, north facing they get weather and get stuff washing up on them. So you end up with logs you end up with, like, There's no... All you have on a Fo and Cardiac is Spruce. Yep. So you end up with stuff from Southeast. You end up with red cedar and fur. We'll wash up on the beaches. So when you're looking for bears, unbeknownst to the clients, you're also looking for wood to mill to use for project at the... Yeah. And then we'll just be like,
okay. Well, there's... Remember that there's logs on this beach. Remember there's logs on that beach and won't go back when there's a super high tide. And we'll yank everything and we normally like, do a trip where it takes a whole day to go and we just go Beach to beach to Beach and you pull everything out and get it floating, and you raft together, like, 5 or 6 logs and just leave them tied together and go to another beach, get a bunch. And then by the end of the day, you're towing like,
a quarter mile of logs. 5 or 6, 5 or 6. 5 or 6 You just keep tie and stuff, tying and stuff, tying and stuff and drag it all back, and it's like a entire day process to, like, get everything there. And then there's a a little bay that we'd pull the stuff up into because we're doing it on a super high tide. Yeah. And then it we tied up
at high tide and so the... And then it's like, you got a month basically of the stuff being above tide line, to be able to deal with it and figure out where you wanna put it and to pull it up to the sawmill and sort stuff out as far as far... What's gonna be firewood, what's gonna be we're gonna use for structural pieces of wood or what we're gonna use for finished wood or whatever, and you get a good idea. You start looking at logs and then running them through the mill.
Can be like that's gonna be a nice piece of wood. Like, I can tell by looking at that that it's gonna have good characteristics for finish wood or whatever, you know? So... But you gotta look at them and you gotta, like, spend a lot of time with the hammer like knocking because they've been on the beach, just like, rolling around in a gravel just pack with rocks. So you, like, spend a lot of time with the hammer, like, knocking rocks and pieces of stuff out of the out of all the trees.
Because you hit that saw blade, you know, it's on the mill 5T6 teeth on 1 blade and 3 teeth on 2 different blades of 6 more. So it's 11 total teeth. 6 of them are a quarter inch and 5. It's like our 3 take teens. Yeah. And you hit a rock with 1 of them, and dirty expensive, and you only have so many of them and you got water off somewhere, and it's, like, you don't wanna hit rocks. Right worth extra time. Yeah. For sure. A little different than just a chainsaw chain. Right. Yeah.
Yep, And you if you hit something substantial. It'll throw those teeth too, and then they're just gone, you can't even, you know, tune them back up. They're totally gone. But, yeah, Login in with boats is fun. I like it. Yeah. It can get kinda sketchy, but it's it's worth it for me. You get a lot more through the ice then you do with the snow machine for sure. Right on. Plus if, you know, I save my snow machine for chasing Wolves. Yeah. There's a guy, like, 1 time I'm working
for cal... Or for Bill W bought skin and skin and stuff. Made a lot of guys, there's a guy for, I think from Cal tag. That came in there Was talking about a pair of wolves. He run down. He's like had a brand new scan. It's like, by the end of it, it was packed of leaves and on fire. He's like, but I got the Straight. I got them both. 1 was a blue 1 or something like that. Nice. The, sucks didn't suffice the scan. Yeah. Did you guys get what... Like, you have any decent snow
out there this year. God we had... The best snow we had in a long time, but it was a lot of days it was overcast. Oh, and you can't do much with, you know, when it's overcast. Because, I mean, you could have a lot of snow or a lot of snow drifts. Can't see them. Yeah. Because it's flat light gets a little dangerous when you're going. Dangerous. I mean, I've I've had many close calls. 1 time, I was... I left Bethel was clear. I got up to the Yukon. And a cloud leader just, like set over.
Yeah. And I was so excited. I was by myself. I was with the 600 days going full throttle, I'll do, like, 60. And all of a sudden I hit this 8 foot jump, and I probably flew, like, 40 feet just boom I was like oh my gosh. And I was waiting. I was in the air just waiting to come down, like, my is gonna break. And I came down, and I was like, whoa, it didn't break. You know? And after that, III put my 600 days in eco mode. Slower down. Find myself, I better take it easy though.
You know it's pretty bad when you had cap time to think about that like, oh, wait you're waiting to hit the Oh. Yep. And then I I ended up on a really big wolverine. The and he went in a small pat of trees like, spruce. Yeah. And he went in. I went around. By the time I made a 03:60, he came out in my tracks, and I I went around again, and he booked it straight to the, like, to the thick Timber. So I was within 90 seconds of being able to see him, but oh, man. He was just... He he was a smart
1 too. He like, he was huge. I swear his pause were like that big. I'm not even kidding. And that's the fastest will I'd ever been after. And we'll aren't that fast. Yeah. They just keep going. It seems like, yep. Yep. Olden and wiser or do you think like, it Chased him before? Oh, everything. Yeah. Seen won't firm him to come back out on your tracks where he can run faster too, probably. Yep. Like... Yeah. Seen that where wolves don't wanna get off
the trail because they can't... Because they know they can't run fast in the dark snow. And I've seen them. Those wolves. Dipped right off and watch me go by on my sled. Oh, interesting they stand that they duct in there to only about 15 feet off the trail that I was on. And when I had finished running my trap line and came back. I was like, I just was through here, like 2 hours ago, And these tracks weren't here. So then, of course, I get off.
And I'm like, those bastards they were running up the trail heard me coming, and they just went droop and jumped in and watch me ride by. Yep. Of people's like watching a lot of critters do stuff like that like moose, you know, guys like here putt along the 4 wheeler and you know, big bull moose just lays down, lets them go right by and gets back up, and keeps doing their thing. I mean, a lot of times that stuff. It's like it doesn't doesn't terrify them, you know, what what our are, like, our
unfortunate moves on a couple years. Go we'd, like, just bolt pop the axle on and broke the axle on the 4 wheeler. Yeah. And I'm like, going to set the grapple hook, and I'm like, There's a bold moose right there. Just like walk faster the season. It comes coming day the season was coming to us like hammer and on the banging on stuff and Came right down. Of course, both rifles are strapped bungee down in bags under, like, Yeah. In, like, not in the canoe. They're were in the canoe behind the
4 wheeler and... Because of course, by the time I sort of noise and not, like, last day, the season tail between our legs, not By the time I had the rifle in my hand and was standing up on the back of the 4 wheel or you're like, well, it's gone no. Know. It's like, what would fuck want me to do.
Yeah. At 1 time, I I shot a brown bear and a moose on the same day up the quit, and I had kinda stockpile everything on the river To run up this Johnson Creek to make trips because so it was skinny water. And when I got back to the stockpile, good. Yeah. I'll take 1. Doing 1 of these shirt. Yep. Thanks. I was trying to trying to cut as multimeter as I can. So I washed the boat out and took splashing water there, You know, to get all the sand and... Yeah. All the mud out.
And I started bailing the boat out with the gallon oil container, plastic the container. And it was me making that scraping sound. Right? Oh, no. And I had this moose on the on the beach. The 1 I had shot in this 45 venture came out, and it was, like, 20 feet away he was pissed. You, like, I as rolled forward, And I'm like, hey, dude I'm I'm here, You know, like, trying to get it to go away. He would not get away. Eventually, at... You know, he's closing in from
20 feet. I pushed the boat in the water and took off God on a step and basically chase the lane with the boat. Yeah. And he only ran a hundred feet into the next pet of willow, and he stood there for the, like, the neck for the press of the time I was loading them the meat the boat jeez. But shit just like, I'm literally yelling At, and he won't he won't leave. No. But I was gonna have to shoot it. It's always once you got 1. And we you don't when you don't want Yeah.
Yeah. That's interesting for sure. Yeah. Some of the noise banging. I mean, a couple years ago, just banging tent pulls in. Yeah. Hammer tent with a hammer. Yeah. That was a big. Oh, I mid cam right Right to camp right in. Yeah. I would like to run into him again. Yeah know That was a nice moose. Both the bulls we saw in that trip. Pretty nice. Yep. I mean, it was a little aside from that. It was a little slow, but, like... Yeah. Pretty much always have got got chances in killing 2 bulls. Yeah.
I'm trying not to like get too excited about move season and overlook sheep seasoning. Yeah. Are you pretty this pretty laid up with work for the summer? Or you... You were doing some fishing. You're getting some fish staff? We put fish up, right now, doing this ground school thing, and then I start fl right after, and I'm supposed to start shift July fifteenth. So I might be at work this whole month. What Yeah. But then once you're on your shift, you should, like, be Then I'll have
3 weeks off every month. That's. That's I'm looking forward to that. Pretty sweet schedule. Yeah. My had... Like I said earlier, I had that for 10 years, and it's the best. Like, you work hard for 2 weeks and you have 2 weeks of play. It's amazing. Nice. And that'll be, like, a bunch of different plate. Yeah. So because you... You're already, like, you Mean you got a cub, and then you're flying cubs and beaver and stuff like that from your
old job. Yeah. So at my old job, I flew all those like, I he called bush planes, but this new job I'm flying a Pc 12. Yeah. Didn't med back stuff, so Is it a lot of standby stuff? Probably yeah for sure a lot of standby and then on my off time, I can go play in my personal plane, you know. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. That'll be cool, man. Yeah. That's a odd situation when you're doing, like, meta stuff and when you're like, would somebody just go ahead and get hurt.
I hate something to do here. Now. Just hit refresh on that enrich Sos screen. Oh, man. But yeah. Pretty... You have Yeah. You haven't been doing too much this spring get, but build the rental cabin. Yeah. I also thinking it's speaking of noise. It was it was pretty funny. The the big the real big berry I killed this spring was came run over. We had real remote bait and we show it, like, my dad and I went and we had 3 bates out
and checking them. And they were both... They're all except for the 1 with the G bears. Like that, it had G on it. For a few days, but the re... The other 2, like, had just barely started getting hit. So we're kinda like fuck because it's nice when they're just getting cl by bears and you go in there in clean house, but you got T323 bears. You don't even go look for Just like, oh, that 1, mark that 1 shoot an 1 that come We're in that way. We're in that way. It so, like, we've...
For that was the first night, we killed that bear, and then we had, like, that was the farthest away from camp. So we checked the other 2 on the way and they're, like, the next the next day, Gotta, you know, you're up to, like, 04:00 in the morning. So sleep in, then dealt with his bear. Had already scanned it and hung up the meat, but I like flashed and got got his height on the salt. Excuse me. And we ended up that afternoon evening. Like, let's check these baits and we'd left our tree
stands at that 1. So it's like, well, if nothing's happened at that 1, we'll move them move the stands because we got like, it's pretty slick setup up these well, the millennium stands, but just pretty easy stands to move and hang on trees and that's what we're just talking about is you just get the blocks. The... Yeah. And I got of like, at each spot, then just take the actual stand and hanging it off You. Run up the tree and stick it in the block. Nice. But so we went up
kinda got late that night. We went up and that nothing had been back there. So moved the stands back to the next bait down, didn't see anything from, like, 08:30 to midnight. And I was looking at pictures picture. I'm like, man, All these freaking bears are coming in at, like, in the... During the day in the afternoon, early evening. I was like, it was like, only my midnight, but I was like, let's get out of here. And come back at like, 01:00 in the afternoon. Sit for a few hours here because we
had 3 nights to haunt. Like, let's sit sit a few hours here, then if we don't see anything or whatever we'll move or kill 1 we'll move to the other spot because it was starting to get bears on it too. And so we do that. And I, like, I'm driving the boat. We pull up on this creek, and we... It's like 15 yards uphill, like, up a pretty not steep bank, but a slope bank and then, like, 20 yards over to the bait.
And I pull up, like, just, like, touch the bank with the boat my dad's in front, he was gonna tie it off. And I was like, oh, shit. I see this huge freaking Blackberry had pop up over the bank like, right up above us. I was like, get down down.
Grab this rifle, and that... That's like a whole another story this rifle I have yet to right review up for, but like a new new model, super, you know, like, it hasn't been released yet, and I had trouble with it on the range like, feeding under if I had 4 rounds and it A65I had trouble of feeding if I had 4 rounds in the magazine, and I thought 3 rounds seemed to work fine. So that's what I had. Sure. Shit. Go, like, jammed that just stick that thing hard, man like it jammed. Wow.
And luckily, I knew what was going on. So I did, like, drop all the all the bullets out. Grab 1, stuck it in and, like, shot that barrett in the chest just to he was, like, getting nervous because all I could see is from his bottom of his chest his head. And yeah, he ran off and died and end up being, like, almost the biggest black Have I've ever killed. Nice. Some people don't believe me, but he was 7 foot 7, like 19 and 3 sixteenth skull.
To being mike bear. Was huge. Like, should be... I mean, aside from, like, just getting lucky and killing a frequent 1 when I was a kid when I was 18, but just a massive bear. But we dragged him back to the boat and and had my dad, like, power the boat into the bank to drag him on the bow and it's like, well, let's, like... This is like 01:00 in the afternoon. At hindsight, it was the first time he'd even been to the bait.
At all. And had been there for like, 20 minutes and heard the boat and came running over to sea like, what? They got the trail camp pictures of him, like, leaving to go see what voice was. And similar thing happened the day before with a G bear in there, but wasn't till, like, we actually walked up there that I saw his head pop up. I'm like, we gotta back up a little bit dead because he's coming over to see what what just made that noise and I don't have room. Now it was in the middle of
the day. That was the middle of the day too. So we go, like, grab this start taking stands down and we make, like, a trip back to the boat, my dad's in front of me. And I get down there, and he's, like, looking confused, and I look and the boat not where the boat supposed to be. They look over and it's, like, out in the middle of the creek floating down? Oh, no. I'm like, did you tie the boat? He's like, no. Yeah. Un tied Un tied it through the rope kicked it off. And I see the rope
on the tree still. I was like, oh, because you had 1 of those spring, like, cara type spring snap links to clip the bow line on? No good. And 1 other time when I kid like I had that happen where you power into the bank and the bank, like, pops that clip off, and then the boat just floats away. And you're lucky you weren't out of, like, where you're off sitting for 3 hours somewhere. Very lucky. Yeah. So what did you do, Did he swim after the. I'd just swim
out to the boat. Yeah. I had to run down to the bank and stripped down my underwear and swim out there, and then my fat ass I couldn't give myself into boat. And Had hurt myself, the night before so was even more crippled up, Like, just like, a be blue trying to, like, roll myself in that boat couldn't do it. So I had to I had to grab the bow and and kick my way over the bank.
Hindsight I've told them I've told him Hunt to get boats when he when you can't get over the edge, you reach up and drop the engine and stand on the back... On the lower unit lower unit and you climb right into the back easily. Someone like a swim deck. Yeah. So someone was telling me you get up there and you could get mount, like, stand on the lower unit, bear hug that thing use your electric room to live you. Yeah. In the situations that I've had to do it.
And it's always up. So you gotta reach up and... Trim it down. Trim it down to get it so then you can get on that. Because I truck and then I gave it all I had. I got 1 point on the side. I I, like, got my heel hooked over it, but just must've an been empathetic man. I tried I couldn't check couldn't do it he. Couldn't hear dad's up there laughing. And he's like, he doesn't even know that I un clipped that on purpose.
No. But yeah, no harm done at least yeah, just lucky and then it's like, yeah, not ever. Because that's why I use a just a quick link on my boat that you can thread closed and it's not gonna come undone. The layer of natural lock, that natural lock tight, some rust on there. Yeah. That time, Jordan and I went to dear Hunting. That was in He's to end of August, and we left from the lodge. We took a 28 foot c sport with the raf for the
sea sport. And we went over and we were gonna hike up, like, 3 miles up up into the Alpine where the deer were at that time of year. Was this like, august? Is is in August. Yeah. So we go over, anchor up the boat, and it's kinda like it's protected but it's not... I don't know It's hard to explain it It gets real deep in your, like, in close to the shore where we anchor up the boat. And then we paddle in a little raft. Pull that thing up in the woods and leave and hike up.
We came out of the tree line And I turned around a look, and I was like, is that where we left that boat and had started blowing, and Jordan turns around. And he's like, I don't think so. And I was like, we need to start running down right now because we're like, we've rate... We have V radios, but the only option would be to call the coast guard because where we were. There's a mountain between us and the lodge to communicate
and nobody else was out and boats. Like, if there had Had been people out fishing, from the lodge I could've have called them on handheld. I mean, like, come get me. I think the only thing that saved us was how much anchor line had out and it was dragging through kelp and shit. Flowing it down. But it was blowing out into the Gulf of Alaska right out of this bay, like, headed. So we run down and we gotten that little sci. I couldn't even, like, move for 3 days after that. We... I was like,
we'll leave our backpacks. We'll leave everything. So it's just us in here. And I was like, I'll pat on the right, you paddle on the left. And when you feel like your arms are gonna fall off, we'll just switch. And then you'll be pat on the on your right side, and I'll be pat on my left side, and we just, like, took us like an hour, and I was like, we're just bare slowly gaining on the boat as it's blown, everything.
So we're, like, paddle after it. It's blowing out into the gulf of Alaska and we're just like, Come on. Come on. Come on. And it was just because wind randomly picked up, and we had it anchored in a rock pile, but it just didn't. It just didn't... It wasn't. You know, we got the anchor out, put a ton of scope out, back down on it, and I'm like, okay. It's solid and I've never had that happen before, but lesson learned. That shit happens, you know? And there's...
I shit. Scares dragon through that dragon through kelp, I think is what the anchor had when we finally got in the boat and pulled the anchor. There was so much kelp that was caught in the anchor line and, like, packed up on the anchor. That had... Just like, slowed it It was, like, pulled way out, scoped way out. Yeah. It's kinda working as a somewhat of a sea anchor. Yeah. But what a shitty feeling when you're standing and you look down, you're like, that's not where we put the boat as it?
And he was just, like, looked at... Did you drop your packs? No. We took our packs all the way down to the to the beach because we were, like, shit 3 miles away from the... But... And we had just climbed up, like, super steep. So go going down, it was fast, like, not a big deal. Going down, but still, it's like, soon as you run into the woods, you're like, you can't see the boat until you come out on the beach, and you got a ding to jump in You you no idea going and you hope you can
still see it. But my hold up was... I was like, well, once we get out here, if we're, like, we're fucked, we can't catch it. I'll get on Channel 16. I'll call the Coast guard and be like, hey. Can you relay a message to the lodge and tell somebody to come with a boat and I lost the tell him I lost the boat. Yeah. But that didn't have to happen. So we waited, like, 2 days and we're were like, so, It's like a lot of narrow misses have been the the... Yeah, I don't have to
fortunately be told. Yeah. It's nice if I can tell the story and somebody else goes the extra mile. I don't know what else you could have done in a situation like that to anchor the boat up better because we found a rock pile to put the anchor in, which is, like, you know, how you do it to get it so that you know it's gonna stay. Yeah. And it's the same thing I done tons of times. And just for some reason, it wasn't... It wasn't hung up good enough. In right spot, you know?
My sister lodge just bought a sea sport. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's like a 25 foot. K. It's gonna on the 02:50 on the back. Nice. And I've never driven a boat that big and I mean, it it was It was good, but you get a little bit of waves and it wants to list 1 way. Mh. And we trimmed tabs trimmed tabs with the indicator. Yep. But even still, like, I guess I'm just learning how to drive that thing and those both are rock a lot. Yeah. They're... That's a big big deep v haul in
those things. They're really good both. I mean, I've been in that 28 Sea sport and shit that I was just like, Won't they are with variable like, even if they were... Like, they're just still right writing. They'll write themselves. Yeah. They'll go all the way over. Those ones. That's that's just how they write on. Like, they're... Yeah. Yep. Not a stable, vote at all, but you can the design of that hall that real deep v like that is you can put those things in
some shitty weather. And they're and they do good. But trim tabs are crucial. For those for those things, for sure. Do have them where you can, like, remotely adjust each app up and down to. Yeah. Yeah. She had some switches in there without the indicator light. So I he stopped that switch and that was driving is kinda cool like you just start listing when way and push down or up on. Yep. All works out really. Needed more. I guess. It's nice it has an outboard. Those boats.
The 1 got switched, I think they got rid of a couple of them, but that 28 got switched to honda 02:50 on it, but they all had volvo pent in them and those things suck. You got that dog house in the back. So the whole engine is, like, in the way of where you wanna... Where you want like, doing anything in the boat. It's right in the way. And then you gotta, you know, those volvo pent had, like a it's like a twin prop. Deal and there were a problem. There's always
problems. So it's, like, anytime you went in, you sucked up a little bit of seaweed or anything. That... Yeah. It was something got plugged up and overheated and it's always plugged up and overheating when you're, like, shit. We're getting get blown into a pile of rock somewhere something that it's never a convenient situation, you know? Because even the outboard you get them like, hot from seaweed but things just stop and b, like, reverse pull it off exactly. Yeah.
So... Yeah. You guys run props mostly down there in Bethel? Bethel? Yeah. Yep. But you go up the correct like qui look or keys are all you wanna wanna a ji boat. So I've got board Jet, which is awesome, but I'm gonna sell it because I really have eased for an or the valley. Yeah. We move. I can't see I regret... Like, I mean, I'd have a little boat, but I kinda like outboard. And those like that murray. I mean, If
you see were board? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've driven, like, the sport Johns, like the Opt max is a little bit. Up in skinny water? Yeah. Scared. And you still prefer an outboard? Yeah. I mean, III can't believe you're you have an with this console. Like. I feel lot safer with the tilt handle. You like to tell really hundred percent. Yeah. Interesting. Well, you do get a fat. You do get faster spots with the tiller for sure. And you can turn so tight up in them... It put any water with the
tiller. I mean I guess I don't I don't really run too much super super skinny stuff. Boy. Recent the recent years. This spring. Does this spring yeah... It was freaking matter where you go. It was pretty like this this pretty many everywhere. Holy shit. It's finally. Shit has come up. But I mean, that's just how I got that boat and, you know, with the console, and I had bought it, like, old 2 stroke 35 horse Johnson the 2 bang? 2 bang Yep. Oh, that
thing. I liked... I finally got to where I could fix basically anything that wasn't catastrophic. Yeah. With that motor, and then it basically did just it was catastrophic catastrophic dropping again. Which the guy... Did I tell you the guy? So you were there when we were, like, pulling out from going moose something 1 time and gave it. And you told that I saw You know. There's was another guy with pulling out a boat that had... And
I was like, hey, I've got. I feel like I listened to this on a podcast Probably have because I usually... I don't I don't do enough that, so I just have to repeat myself over tell the same stories. Bloody finally contact you. Yeah. Like, 2 years later. He's like, you still got that. I was like, this is my recently. Yeah. Like, they used the last year. Serious. Yeah. It's
like, you still got... Because I was like, here's my number, man, if you want, I've got 1 of those that, you know, like it's got, like, like, all the jet parts are in really good shape, you know, like, you just use it for parts. Because those motors are not that common, and I saw he had 1, and Yeah. Like, 2 years later. I was like, no, man. I took that thing to the dump. Yeah. You know I was like, I just finally, like, 1 day had enough. I was like, I just gotta get rid of that
thing. Yeah. If you move something for like, the fourth time. Yeah. Think. I'm done with more. It's not. It's not I'm I'm kind of a hoard with some things, but I'm not the hoard that's like, don't tell anyone. I got I got a hundred thousand dollars and in these woods way stop on here. I got a situation. I'm dealing with like that not me personally, but Yeah. I'm dealing with a situation. Yeah.
If you only knew like, yeah. Yeah. It's like comes to the upstairs still here living living in sham and then, like, living an old truck and then I got a half million dollars worth of stuff. Back back in the woods here. Yeah. But tell anybody. Don't tell anybody. Yeah. I don't know if that engine that I have on my boat seems to be pretty good. Not f wood. I like that thing. Yeah. Because that's a 01:15. 01:15 Johnson. Yeah. 97. Yeah.
To. Mean as long as like got good compression and all that stuff, they're good motors. Yeah. I do like that mercury. He Arthur complimented my mercury. Yeah. Those things are awesome. I like that motor. I like to know now. I like that I've put that boat to the test. And I know that when I do stick that thing, it's gonna be bad. Yeah It's gonna be a long way from the water. Yeah because it'll go through absolutely no water at all.
I mean, we're talking like that much it'll go through an inch and inch and a half of water, like no problem at all for hundreds of yards. So when I get to the... Tell you that hundreds yards, and I'm like, holy, shit, the inch and a half just went to nothing. We're in big trouble. Yeah. But... Have you guys seen those the inflatable chip bolts they got now? Yeah. Those are cool. Sa Horse solo or something like that. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. They seem to be getting really popular.
For a while, it seemed like a lot of people because finding motors that were, like, lighten up because there was like, I was it the to hot, 2 strokes that they were still making for a while. The Tlc Base injected. Yeah. Because basically no one's making 2 2 strokes anymore, so they're not... Like, the 4 strokes are all heavier for Mh. The same horsepower. Yeah. Have you used 1? I've used everything. III have 3 Yamaha 42 strokes. No. Have you used 1 of those those inflatable.
The No, but I have plenty friends and Bethel that have them now, and they just told them behind their chip boots. Yeah. And they get get up to camp and then they switch to the inflatable jet. I mean, they're going through some really skinny ones. No. Like soup like just like Creek space. And then they have those Not plastic the the jet foot. Yeah. Yeah. The the U be... Yeah. Yeah. There or something... Foot on them. Yeah. You can You can do amazing things with those books.
Yeah. Where you're not having to worry about shatter your cast aluminum. Yeah. Yeah. That's what Rob has on boat. Yeah. He's got 1 of those ur foot feet on it. I wanna get the 04:20. The port solar 04:20. Yeah. Solar 04:20 because I have a Am 2 stroke that I can fit my airplane. Nice. Is that 04:20 is at a 14 footer? I don't know the length. I know it's small enough to fit in airplane the time. Yeah. All you care. Yeah. So you can get... Yeah if you could get them, would you have to take each
1 separately or could you take both? Right now, yeah, I could take I would have to take them separately, but... Be still get it. Airplane and then I could take oh, like cares that would be. Yeah. Right. That'd be like the best of both worlds. When you could... You know, yeah. Use your plain a flash get that remotely. And then you and then you could still move. You're not stuck just 1 call them moose to the plane. Well, I think what... Have you seen the photo for the foldable boats? You you
know, when I'm talking about? Those they're like, those look cool. Yeah. I think they're kinda long for air lanes, but... They're right under the floats right between the floats or on a float is where I've seen them strapped. Yeah. To the are there? Yep. I've putt around in 1 I don't know how well they would do, like, under a lot of power, like, a little lake, like, a a lot of power. I don't know that you could, really get up on step in, like, and run smoothly
with them. I don't... Maybe could. I don't know. I've never tried it. But have you ever haul haul the lu? On floats on underneath a plane. No. I haven't hold the lu. I have... We caught 1 brought to the lodge 1 time. He came in with a beaver. And it was backwards. And I was like, holy shit would it take you 4 hours to get here 04:45 minute shit. I was like, the fucking boat is backwards It's like a freaking sailor you put on there.
And he's like, you know what? I thought the same thing, so I put it on right side up forward and hopefully shit the airplane. Didn't wanna fly very straight He's was like, I landed real quick and spun it around. Yeah. I think you have to put it stern front half to. For the air aerodynamics on the tail. Yep. Otherwise, does it, like, just disrupt the airflow around the tail So flying. Yeah Yeah. Yep. Yep. But I've called weird stuff. I've called the boat trailer. On
the spreader bars. Oh, man. I the lodge and the tic chicks. But never a boat. What's the weirdest thing you think you've called are most outrageous? Man, I felt some weird thing talking. Maybe not weird. Maybe not the right word. Probably boat trailer because... The boat trailer. I I put it on the spreader bar and I put the tongue towards the back. Yeah. And I didn't notice it. On step. You know, going and take off, but I I did notice towards the end, like,
where I should be airborne. I was starting to pull back. And I could feel the drag. So I think the tongue was digging in the Oh. 0 damn shit. Yeah. And then the axle I put on the right float. And I could not get above, like, 84 miles an hour or the entire flight. Oh, man. In eighties, you you wanna be flying no less in 80 in a beaver. Yeah. So it took forever to get to the lodge, but I know that we had a lu delivered to me when I worked for fishing game, long time ago with helicopter.
And I just think that they would have it sling or whatever. Apparently, they just wanna... So they have a post being hanging off the bottom of it, like, this, and it like, holds the the boat from just, like constantly spinning second. All rudder. Exactly. Yeah. And that showed up and I was like, what the fuck is going why thought we were getting a boat. I was like, what is dangling underneath the thing? Did they forget to put the anchor in or something? Then he gets closer, and I... He landed.
And I was like, what the hell? It's like, yeah, we took off, and it was just, like, constantly spinning all, like, never wouldn't stop. So we hooked a pallet to it and done spent. Yep. It's funny all the solutions to stuff that you're like, man, Someone had figure this out the hard way. Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. Yeah. Around here though Most of that stuff's been figured out a long time ago. The amount of stuff that's called out to remote places and the state is unreal
Yeah. Did you do do whole a lot of freight and stuff? Yeah. And bush charter? I mean, yeah. So there's no roads out in the bush, so everything goes by airplane, and I've I've haul everything. Except for boats, I guess. But 1 thing my... So 1 story that I always thought was fascinating was my grandpa back in the sixties. I think he had he had a S in 01:08. Yeah. And he flew from Qui where he lived to dylan him to go on Be lug. And he got 1 and, you know, back back in the d just
fill the plane with whatever fitting there. Right? Yeah. So he put the... He was gonna fly back home me, put the Bug in the airplane and and they took off. They used the entire mile long runway. Oh my And they could not climb above, like, 500 feet all the way back Would be scary. Yep. In a stint right on the edge. Yep. Yeah. Better hoping doesn't like hiccup at all. Right? Man. Bet that plain smelled wonderful.
It's like you walk in here, like, it just smells like ass in here, like, cardiac brown bear fat smells. Which has very... It's it's worse when they've been on wales but is a very distinct smell. It certainly is. We've been... Which is weird how smells do, like... I mean, I hadn't actually worked on a ko where, and did you dog use your dog character and your dog tell you know at all give a shit. He doesn't care. I remember when I lived up on Ama, came home and Rob had a dog.
And it was like, 1 of those deals where I was leaving. Was the end of this guy's hunt, weather situation. He was on, like, day 12 or something of a 10 day hunt. And we're like, well the plane can't come. Let's just run across the bay, and we'll see if we can find a bear last minute. We ended up finding a bear killing a bear, and then getting a radio call, like, the planes on its way. So I'm like, holy, shit we could get this bear gun get the skull off because,
like, clients going. I'm going, like, you have a whole bunch of stuff that's happening. So I'm covered in. Brown Linking up To Cody to go right to the airport to get on a plane to come back to to anchorage then to Fair banks. So I come walking into the house, covered in bear hair and stink of ko bear. That fucking dog like walked up to me took 1 smell, ran in the bathroom and got the shower. And was in the fucking corner in the shower, like, curled up, like quiver in the corner.
I was like, wow. That's impressive that that smell can do that to another animal. Just the smell. Well, when I was when I was working for W lotus skin and wolves... I mean, skin and, like, 50 60 wolves a year, Like, I just smelled, like, I'm sure I just smelled, like, wolves all the time. And You mean he stink so good. I stink so stink so good. Yeah. Which they got their own smell too, but they, wolves and wolverine like piles of them and isn't when Jerry had
had got that dog. Like, even from when it was a little puppy. I'm like, alright, I'll... Like, socialize with this so likes me man after a while that dog I would drive up the driveway and it would start growing right like like all. Yeah. No. And no dogs really did, But moose man, he don't care. It's a freaking retriever. Golden retriever heat like delta. Literally, but bring, like, whole flop a whole black bear on the ground. He's just over there sniffing and like,
he doesn't care. What he did care though was when Jed 1 day after, like, I've been Bear hunting and the kids wanted to play bear bear bait They got their play house So they got the little tower, and they made a bear bait, and it take turns, like, putting a bear hide on the back and, like, crawl walking the bare bear and the other up here with the nerf gun, you know, and Jed wanted to play pretty bad. So he... He had been the he had been the bear all day. And he goes Was like, alright, I'll play
with you. I gotta around the garage first. He goes up there in tower. And I, like, went and grabbed 1 of my G bear hides. Me go walking through the woods That's was gonna try to sneak up on him, and he didn't see me, but moose saw me, and he starts just barking and grow and start. Really, like, you know, but I was like, man. I hope he don't run up here and bite me because he was... You like, he was not like it ends like, some saas squat. Hurry Sas watch walking through the woods over
there. That's interesting though with dogs too is they got the, like, the fight flight. Like, there's no medium with dogs. They're either, like, scared shit of bears and they're running the other direction or they're, like, coming in to see what's going on or Yeah. What? And he was, like, keeping his distance
But, yeah, Like, barking real... Where I was, like, genuinely, like, I hope he doesn't, like, run up and bite me or something, but he is kind of a chicken, like, other dogs that are, like, barking at to be aggressive, he didn't want nothing to do with him. But, once he found out was me, he was, like, Oh, thank goodness it's you. And then he's just, like... And then it was sucked because I'd like, he'd shoot me and I'd fallen in the ground and then
the dog had try to haunt me. He's like, so oh, big for. But no Yeah. He did thankfully doesn't seem to bother because he'd have to get used to it. Yeah. Would. But he has turned into a squirrel hunt dog. Like, there's probably 30 squirrels in the freezer out there that Jed has got to the point where he'll the dog hero squirrel and run out there and tree it, like, at the trenton just wait at the tree and jed come shoot him or I shot a couple since I got the new pellet a gun.
They fall out of the tree. He grabs him and t him a little bit, and then I thought our... We had 42... Last summer or 2 summers ago, maybe. And I was like, it's gonna be pretty tough to beat 40. For in a summer, and we're like almost a 40 already this year. It's ridiculous. I don't know where they keep coming from. It's unreal. Yeah. It's like every spruce Right here around the house. It's just squirrels every day. Being saying place. They're just never ending. Stream of them too.
And what's crazy is it's not just like here in my house... Notice driving down the road? How many dead squirrels are on the highway or on roads they're everywhere. It's, like, real high year. Just like, I'd assume just like hair, you know, but they, you know, some years are high. Some yours are low. Squirrels gotta be the same way. Because guys have many roads. There's a few, not a lot, though. I'll give you a few can take that. Shit. Yeah. Pretty annoying. Yeah at 04:30 in the morning.
Outside the bedroom window, my son of a bitch. Think the worst alarm clock ever. We had 1 that was terror the house in Saint Mary's when I was working there. 12 years ago. He kept chewing through the the sheet rock? Yeah. Into each bedroom minis. That's a you get rid of that thing. Oh, we did. We did. You. Yeah Just sent us snow machine out the saint Mary's last. Oh, yeah. The bravo. Right? Yeah, Nice. Yeah.
I've only been there I've been there a couple times, but just, like airport passing through going out to I'm trying to think of when and Saint. Mary's when I was working on caught, and maybe that was the only time. Because I was thinking when I was working out in Holy cross that was Annie ec I think. That plenty on the echo. But a lot of country down there. It's cool. A lot of moose country. Sure. Yeah. And even the trap and, like, he's got all kinds of otter and cats and stuff down there.
There... I think it's probably should be in that stack somewhere. I got a blue cat that a guy from I don't know if it was from Qui hoc or it was for some place out there that the guy had sent in this blue cat. That he he'd cut the feet off. And just, like, putting up fir. Mh. And then Bill, like, we saw... He called him up He's was like, do you have him, like, somewhere, like, in the... You, do you have the car like in if like, in a pot, you know, frozen or something somewhere,
you know, because it's pretty rare... They're they're not worth much money aside from just appreciate him, but I think I ended buy it, like, buying it from Bill or he gave it to me or something because I he's was like, yeah, you're the only 1 appreciates. Pretty cool, pretty cool looking cat.
There was a guy. I think the at last time I was talking to you there was a guy, I can't remember where he lived either that would, like, send in a bunch of otter every year that you could, like, eat off those things, like, just flushed so perfectly clean. Wow, even like between the whisk and stuff. How are the cat numbers where you're dropping right now? This year the cat numbers were really high. Really? I didn't I didn't trap. I had plans to, but I just never made that out there. I just
got the wolf sickness. Yeah. I I went out on walls on my sewing machine more than I did trapping. What That's okay. Whatever floats you boat. I mean, I this that's what's more fine. I ended up shooting more walls and the guys in Bethel trap combined, you know, there... That's pretty awesome. There's something to be said about that. Well, and that's gonna actually, like, I mean, cats come and go, but like, like, that's gonna do something for your moose out there. Yeah. More than anything. Right
now, the wolf numbers are low. They've they've been though for a few years and 20 20 was the alaskan snow year we had, and we just... We cleaned up, man We shot, like, 90 wolves that winter. That's awesome And, we haven't had snow since and... When you say we, how many of you? There's there's 10 of us that could it pretty hard. You always go together or do you... No. But there's... But there's 10 of you that are actually going to do the same thing. Like, out and. Pretty.
The mess between, like, 5 villages. Okay. Yeah. I I used to go with a big group and the older I get I learned that I enjoy it more by myself. Yeah. You know, You're... I bet you're probably more successful when you're... It's low lower numbers of people as well. You can be more successful, but time is critical when you're on a wolf. If if it's in the open, Yeah. All... You have all day, but if it's near river, Yeah. Or a mountain and you have,
you know, decision making is absolutely critical. You could make the wrong turn and give the wolf 30 seconds, and he's up the up. And you're not gonna get up that month. Yeah. Or you can get stuck in a creek or in the snow bank even. So, yep, Time's is critical. Yeah. Probably from the time you jump them to the time you gotta be shooting them. Yeah. They're they're pretty fast. And some of some of them are really smart too. Like, I've I've been on a wolf where
I swear he was the alpha. He kept a 2200 yard pace the entire time. When I spit up, he would speed up. And there was no snow that time, You know, so yeah can't you can only go so fast. When I slowed down, he slowed down. And then he was in, like, this drainage and they got to a 3 way so Mh. And I lost him, and I went up and down every single 1 of those drainage twice. I never found him, and I could not find his tracks. Come to think about it. He jumped off and he just laid like,
he laid You go right by him. Yep. Because I didn't see any more tracks. Yep. So, yeah. Somewhere really smart like that. Yeah. It's and you want... You wonder some of that stuff where it's it's just like that animal happens happens to get old because they're, like, super spooky and, kinda like, those are their habits or how much of it is I think you went texting some of experience. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, I mean, we've we shot a wolf that
had no paw. It it got caught traffic chewed off or something. Or this other time, like, my buddy shuttle off had a snare on its foot, you know? And it still was running pretty fast. A different different year. I shot a wolf that head up 02:23 bullet lodging its ass. In a Steve still pretty fast. And there was a wolverine came in 1 time that a guy had caught that had no front feet left. Wow. Still get you caught him in a trap by by someone of his design feet.
Or in a con or something Don't remember exactly, But Then at this other time, we shut wolf that I'm pretty sure was ra because he... I I've been around a lot of wolves, and I'd I'd I never had 1 that I snow machined up to that stopped and circled me at 10 feet. Oh, Yeah. Head down. And I was, like, Dude, what is this Wolf doing? And and he was like, he was sizing up.
And he just did the slow walk around me, and then he completed his 03:60 and then started following the the female that was in front of us. And it was shrink down. I'm pretty sure she was in heat, but when ended did it shooting him. But before we shot him, we stopped and my friend Seth was just, like, whistle at him, like, like, he was, like, like, at a dog and wolf stop turned around. And started t towards us. And I'm like, dude you shoot him. You know you he was closing in from 40 feet.
And the guy shooting him was, like, he's... He he was a x military, and he was just gonna see what the wolf was gonna do. But yeah, Was like, just shoot you know, like, I don't know. I didn't want him to like Biting 1. Well, definitely happens. Well, that old Frank Laser story where he was up in out of Nor, I think. Had, like, he had talked to a but like an elder guy that had been
out trap, like, a dog team. Mh. This is like, in the forties, and had got, like, heard his dogs at night and went out there and thought 1 of them had got loose. It was a big black wolf, and he, like, hit it, like, piece of firewood and like, went to go, like, hit it and the thing that. Like, chewed him up a little bit. And then
he... You know, what... I suppose... He made it back out, I guess, and then ended up dying a Ra Like, he he'd got it, and it was, like, took too long for them to get him a shot or whatever time Me, it was a long time ago. But yeah. I can... Yeah. This the wolf we got to it with our hydra dr had por fine closing, mouth. Oh, and it was really skinny, and it was just it was acting, like, like, I'd never seen a wool effect that way. It's So that's why I think you had ra.
Yeah it's definitely around a little bit. Do you... Would you go back to the same spots? Or do you... Are you constantly looking for new spots or you I mean, you just... Yeah. Well I just... If I go multiple times I'll run the same route pretty much. Just to see, you know, what's new. Mh. And, you know, some days you you shoot 3 out of a pack of 9, and they
usually come back within a couple days. No And I've I've gone out and, you know, shot like, say 6 out of 9, and then mh went back couple days later and cleaned up. But they always come back, and they come back quick. It's usually within 24 to 48 hours in. Now, I I've seen other packs where, like, you don't get the alpha. Mh. And you shoot couple of the pups are...
They just don't know any better, and then they're in a spot where you can't get to, and then you watch the alpha howell on everyone else just comes back, like, kinda cool to watch. Yeah. I know trapping them. Guys say if you can snag those snag the male and female. Then, like, the you'll eventually get the pops. Yeah. Because that's pretty much what to do for Pm. Like, come to a wolf expert for
people who don't really know. I mean, any of those wolf packs generally is gonna be, like, you know, an alpha male, like, an adult male and a breeding female, and then their pops of, like, sub adults pretty much is. Right. You know, I don't know. How I imagine Sometimes there's more adults, but anytime you get, like, mature other mature wolves in 1 of those packs. I'm sure you get, like, a ton of competition. They're not, like, super super nice to each other there. Yeah. That's the truth.
But, yeah. No. Sec kinda that's kinda how I think you would wanna do it it's like You have certain circuits you run looking for kills and tracks. And, yeah. So you know, me and these 9 other guys we I I keep in touch with them, and I kinda know, like, what's going on, what river and I just... I'm my... I mainly aim for the...
The caribou. That's why Yeah. Do the same route, and sometimes I'll pick up, you know, new new tracks at I didn't see yesterday or 2 days ago or whatever and can get a general idea of, like, what packs there and, yeah, how many there on that pack? What kind average of miles? In a day to, like, go out and and on this... On my snow machine? Yeah. Easily, a hundred and 50 miles a trip.
Okay. Sometimes it's more. Yep. Just because, you know, from... I think from Bethel have to did head, like, 30 miles 1 way to get to the good spot. Right. And that's... Ends up being 60 miles, but Yeah. Just before you're even actually hunting just getting there. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. How nice does it made it having like, sled with good gas mileage? Dude. It's crazy easy. The the... The fuel efficiency and power we get today
from a a new slit is crazy. I mean, I have a 08:50 e tech, and I I freaking love that thing be, like, so much power and you get 15 miles to gallon. It's nuts. Because you got the 600 d tech. What's your get? Like about that. Get... Yeah. Yeah. Like, 12 or... I mean, it depends on what... If you're just like hammer and on it or not, but, yeah, like, 12 to 15. Yep. It also depends on the snow depth, and are you pulling the sled or... Yep. Exactly. Behind or...
Mh. I can't imagine that 600 e text scares me sometimes. Yeah Yeah. I can't imagine 8. You gotta lead. My room roommate when not, like, yeah. Back got married. I had my 600 ace, and then he... My roommate had got his first sled. He'd bought just to used tundra fight... Like, 05:50 fan. Mh. Before and then eventually, like, after that year, I think he he ended getting just 1 day, I got home and he had a 8 fifth...
He had a 8, like, a summit 08:50 et tech, or 800, whatever was the 800 or a 50 e tech. Sitting in the driveway. Like, I just, like, stood on that thing and used it's like oh man. This seemed to be d date like a freaking rocket. Yep. You know they go. Not a power. I know I listened to the last time you're on here, and I can't... I'm trying... Was like trying to remember. Go over it quick how you do. Like,
So you find these wolves and you... You... I mean, you're obviously trying to find them in the open. They kinda have to be or you you're were never gonna... It's pretty open where we're at to begin with. That's why we can do it successfully in in the Bethlehem. But generally all head a direction towards where I know the caribou is. Mh. Because they'll be lingering around the Caribou process. Yeah. They they pretty much hang out around
the Caribou. And you almost always have, like, 1 dominant pack or on the herd. But but the Caribou heard is stationary as well or just moving very slowly. It might move, you know, 30 miles in 2, 2 or 3 days. Okay. But but not general idea where they're gonna be. And I'll head out and I'll hit every high spot on the horizon, you know, bet those flat. So you look at the horizon, you see just a little incline you hang for that climate, and it could only be the... See a 20 foot
20 foot advantage. Yeah. You... Still. But 20 feet. You can see Yeah. You know, miles. And so all glass, all glass 360 degrees, And sometimes you'll spot 1, or I'll look for Caribou or Ravens. Ravens always. Mh. They're... They're my friends. They're indicators of wolves. So I'll I'll hit I'll hit all the high points on my way out. Sometimes I'll cut a track. And generally, wolves like when they run they kinda run
1 direction. Mh. So when I cut it track and start running, I just hit all the high points in the direction of the wolves. The Wolf going, and I eventually find them. The only times I don't find them is when they hit tree line, like a river or hills or mountains. Yeah. Do do you notice, like, aside from just finding kills? Do the Ravens kinda follow them sometimes. Oh, absolutely. Every probably, I wanna see 90 percent of the wolves that I kinda kill had on them.
Yeah. It's that's interesting. I... When my friend when I was a kid, what has really... That's really cool. Yeah. When kid indicators... When is a kid that calling Coyote down. I mean, I don't really do it up here because just the... It's just not as not near as much action as colin colin Coyote down in the states. There's a lot more of them, but we... With my dad grown up, we'd call, my cousin who was much
older. He up getting killed their iraq later, but he was he got really, really good at calling Coyote, and he was always, like, you know, Mag pies. Oh, Like you see Mag pies coming. Like, there's a good chance you're gonna see a Coyote pop out because they'll... The Mag pies would follow Coyote around like that. So that makes total sense. I mean, why why not follow what follow to just follow the walls around? They're gonna get you your food. Right. I what seem to be a good quote.
Oh, do you ever go with your airplane. If you having trouble finding them, do you ever get up and go fly around and look for him? You know, many people ask me that, and my honest answer no. I've never use my airplane to go find them and they go hunt them the next day. Really? Yep. Because, you know, overnight, they can travel. Yeah. Many overnight. Yeah. And if you can't land and shoot same day than she Yeah.
You can't seem the airborne. So... So it's not even worth burning the fuel for the plane that screw around. I feel like anytime I've seen wolves in the area and then it went out the next day. I'm just... I'm bummed because I didn't find the wolf scene. Yeah. Like, just going. III stopped. Flying to look for them. I don't even I don't even do that because it's it's it's pointless. Yeah. No. That makes sense.
Go looking for look for some... To find somewhere they're at not where they were yesterday, but yeah. I know is these easy out of a plane to tell whether it's moose or wolves though. And it's just like you're talking about earlier, mean, Moose are never going a straight line anywhere. They're just, like, constantly feeding wandering, and those walls are just like... It's just when wolves when they're they get running when they're running away they're going straight. All the time. They're Yep.
Rules are cool. I don't miss skin them all the time, but I don't know. I mixed feelings. I like I like I enjoy doing that, like, putting up stuff doing that kind of work, but but they stink so good. They've do stink so they think so, especially get little green belly 1 that 1 that got snare and do you do you keep them if they're unique and then sell everything else? Or do you have a for you the. III have probably
15 wolves on hand right now. Yeah. But most of them I'll either giveaway to skin tones or I've sold a few and a feel on the wall, but I don't know. I might hang on to something for a while and selling them the skin tones or give my away. Right on. Well, especially once you get a bunch of moments like anne, unless you get a real cool 1. Right. Unique 1. Yeah. Like that Orange when I got. In the. December I... I, I'm getting that stuff. Like you said, the well, you said those
soft mouse. Soft model. This goes really want. Those look kinda cool. Yep. Not a fan. I've never seen 1, but I saw I watch somebody on some video on the Youtube and I was like that is fucking creepy. Yep. I think that'd would be cool to have for, like, Halloween or something there's through. Oh for sure or Like I mean, I know where you're... What you're getting at, but
it just seemed so weird to me. I was like, it almost looks like it's alive, but it doesn't have a bone and its body like just, Odd looking, you know, but you can curl them I mean, it look like a dog lane in the coin... I mean, you can make it look like a dog that's blame down sleeping in the cold. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Well, you don't like it looking at you, you can always turn together. Right? Yeah. It's always a way of remedy that problem
isn't there. Yep. No. So what's next what's next for you then? When's the next season? Well, I've never done a sheep hunt. I hope that I get to do that this year. Yeah. So you're gonna you're gonna a sheet hunt? I want to. Awesome. Want to. Super cool. I know nothing about sheep hunting, so it'll be a a learning thing for me for sure. I still know nothing about sheep. It I don't know. Probably the... I don't know
what you would say. Probably the biggest things I would say is just like, keep after it. Keep going. Like, you don't have to kill yourself. Don't think about the cheeseburger this way when you get home or any of that kind of bullshit. And, yeah. Just keep keep looking. Get tired, take a break. Yeah. Don't like... I mean, sometimes you gotta you gotta climb, but, like, don't think you gotta go blasting all over the till the top every mountain. Around or climb, you know, like,
climb unnecessarily. Yeah. There's a learning curve. Like there there's there's certainly just but, like, some stuff you've gotta Once you know you're in Sheep country where you're in an area where there's could be sheep, just fucking slow way down. Everything, like, slow motion. Because they can be anywhere. And if you're looking and you're not seeing them, and you know they're around then they're somewhere and the last thing you wanna do is blow them out a country. Before you can get on them
and really assess the situation. No. Is this something you're gonna fly in with your own plane somewhere in and hunt? Yeah. Right on. Yeah. That's a good way, especially if you can get... Yeah, get before the season where you can spend some time like, getting just even for anything flying around, like, Like, you may... You know, it's a good indicator if you're seeing lots of sheet... You
know, seeing sheep. And if especially if you can tell that there rams when you're flying around, like, that's a good indicator. But you're not ever gonna see all the sheep that are there flying around. Right. And just to, like, get a feel for the lay of the land, Like, that's that's a nice thing too to be able to buzz around beforehand. Yeah. That's You'll love it. Yeah. Careful. Yeah. Careful you he was if Fucking wolf kill him on the back door. You'd be like, all I care about sheep now.
Yeah. You'll still like it all I don't know why. I'd still like... I just can't shake. I I'd still like, killing bears. I mean, like, yeah, he get you get some meat from it. You get... Sometimes he's like, some nice hides, but I like killing bears. And now my kids are gonna be killing embarrassed to you so we're about to, like, seriously up the... Yeah. You need more for you. Till till... Yeah, Jed can turn 10 and get his own. Get his own tags, but Sadie talking like she wants to kill
1 next year. Oh, yeah. She's a good shot. They know. I'm think better her with the pellet gun and 20 too. She's a good shot. So if she's she's thinks she's ready, we can probably make that happen too Yeah. Why not? Yeah. That's how you live is just why not. My dad the the last night on her trip. You know, we... After I killed that bear, we went... Moved the tree stands the other bait.
I, we went back to camp, and I dealt with that bear rest, grabbed some dinner and went back sat down and saw, like, 4 bears in an hour and eat why not? My dad had 1. You did another 1. My dad had wanted to shoot that chocolate 1, because we... That had showed up on camera that day. Okay. So feels like, that's gonna be back and sitting in there and 1 bear came in. Like, just didn't... I was probably the first time that Bear had been there and kinda a little spooky and left, and
it was a big 1. Not absurd big, but a bigger bear. That a little, like, laurent came in was in there, and then this black 1... This black phase 1 came in that he he was all tore. Like, he was rubbed pretty good on his ribs, but he was all, like, tore, face all tore up and but like, popping in his teeth from way back in the woods, like, just 1 of those asshole bore. What what does that mean when they pop
their teeth? Kinda depends. Like, if he's doing it like that, like, a boar is coming in, pop it like, he just like, every... Not just like like, not just bang bang bang. You know, that's kind of like I don't know. I would interpret it as like, like, get out of here. I'm here. Like, just an aggressive behavior. Yeah. Like, try to scare it. Because sometimes like, a boars will come in, like, they don't really know what's up or they
seeing the tree. They don't, like, why like, they'll, like, cough and swat stuff to try, like, make something move. Or scare something to scare you away. It's... You know, I think of it a lot of times it's, like, It's not even so much as them, like trying to say, you know, get the hell out of here. It's they're scared of what Our... What's Yeah. What is point is already. Yeah. That That's tim. It's like a bluff,
like, exactly. You feel out the situation. Like, they're kind of aggressive, but not aggressive enough to just come tearing in there and stuff off. So that's that's a good point. Yeah. Maybe like, seeing what's seeing what's actually. Yeah. Because that, you know, you you're up it, like, if you're up in a tree, you can see, like, up, there's this little bear here and this make it down you can't see shit. Yeah. So Anyway, he ran that bear off, and then
I was like, get to bore. I was like, but just I was like, told my dad I was, like, Just wait. Like, just wait. That bear, you know, like, don't shoot that. If you don't wanna shoot, that's not the barely you wanna shoot. Let's just wait. I don't care. And yeah, like, 15 minutes later initially because we had a G head that had come into that 1 too and see way back in the woods like this blunt bear. I was like, I think it's a g, but then it took gravity that. Took
the forever to come in. It's like, no. It's that that kind chocolate cinnamon bear. And it was coming in, then it ended up running this bear... This bore off, and ended up being a big sal. Like, belly dragging no cubs, Belly like almost dragging the ground old. I think, like her insides were, like, down to the gums. So compared to, like, some other bears like... Yeah. Not... Like, some bears will get, like, gnarly, like, keen nines all broke off and wore down, but
not all of them do. Like, that 1, it's it's actual, like, inside or teeth were way worn down. So probably But they came in. I'm like, is 1 of those pairs who can be, like, conventional? Like, what do they eat What they... What do they figure out they can eat they something that could be just like hammer on their teeth that they're totally on all the time. Totally. But it was, like, just a super fat bear. And initially, I'm like, manic. Might be
a cell. Kinda, like, in hindsight, like, short neck and stub legs on a fat bear Like that's a cell. But You know? It's like, shoot that thing. Talk to us. Shoot that thing, let her have. And he was funny because he the video. I thought if you saw Arthur, but he... My dad, like, use he didn't use the first pair, but he has these like, old, string trackers. They're like, 30 years old. Oh, things are awesome. It's a little... It's like a hopper like arrow? Like a bow dad
got so that is. It's like a bow fishing, kinda like a bow fishing reel is, but it's got this tube bus like tracker. Real thin and strong line that you tie basically behind your broad head and close range, it doesn't really affect the flight. So shoot it and then the bear like, runs off it's like, well like, tighten the drag dad. And then it's like, like for 10 seconds or whatever then is, like, stops. It's like, that's probably it. Yeah. That's awesome. So this string didn't run
out. No. It didn't... I mean, it's got, like, it's lot. Like, a wild string in there, like, it's ridiculous. So... In this situation. I mean, unless you really mess 1. They don't... Nothing's going very far. No. I... He just lady likes using them. So I love it. When did he... Dude he just, like, decide I'm gonna use that this thing this year? He'd used it before at times. He oh, he kinda kinda off and on. So I didn't even know it and all sudden, yeah. Show up and let's get the tree
and he's got that on there. So it ended being really cool. Yeah. But well, and kinda, I don't know if we had talked about it recently, but just people being so dumb on where you shoot bears. Do are things like sitting there court in away he shoots a thing and takes off over the log. I'm like, oh, that's a dead bear. Like, perfect. And all looks like shot him pretty far back. That's well, that's where the lungs are. If you...
I don't know. I'm... I don't do any Facebook or Instagram or that shit, and it seems just like if you're gonna put stuff on the computer for people to look at some douche bags. You can for running fucking mouth out. That's what you've done on all the time. It's like, doesn't matter. That just seems to be the situation. It's funny. But it's like it's chocolate Yeah. You start to think like everybody's on the same page and not really. I mean, that's kind of 1 of the reasons with J bear.
I was skin it here. And I was like this is a good opportunity so, like, I, cut the back strap off 1 side and then can fl off the rib meat all off of 1 sides. So you could see the lungs and heart and everything sitting in there and actually cut some of the ribs out. To be, like, like where you wanna do these things. Yeah. I'm, like, the leg is, like, even back a little bit. I'm like, he shot it. Like, this far, you know, like, 2 3 inches behind the shoulder and still got the very front of
the lungs. Wow. In front of the heart. And you, you know, so anyway, but the bear they, ran off and died, and then that other bear just like, like, within a few minutes was like lingering and out there, and he came back in. Oh, shot him. He took off the same direction. And they ended up... We followed the string to my dad's bear, and I looked over my bears laid dead, like, 10... You know, less than 10 yards away. That's... I think that I
was texting you. And I was like, let me know when they're like, 10 feet apart. Good we got a contest now. Yeah. Robin and I were piling them up and they're like, 10 feet depart. And they... The app literally were, like, right Yeah. Right there. Well, they're almost laying on each other. I was, so bitch you want. Oh, yeah. It's good stuff. Yep. So... Yeah. You can you can fall for sheep hunt and still and still, like Moose Hunting and Yeah. Wolf Cha and Seal Hunting.
Well, those those 3 are my top favorite is, you know, moose, seals and wolf. The those 3 l I'll never stop chasing those. Yeah. What's your favorite rifle for shooting seals? Probably 02:23. Yeah. It's not like you need something big your head head definitely... Yeah. You definitely wanna center fire So 02:23 is easy because you you can get the emma anywhere. Yeah. Mh. I just had a buddy of mind built me A65G. And nice. Hopefully, next spring I can use out and seals. That'll work.
Yeah. That's all Roy. It was at 02:20 swift. 2... Or and didn't he have that 02:20, like, k hornet? He did. Yeah. He did have that k horn. But 22 20 swift most of the time though. Yeah. I'm we're still... I've been working on getting It's been kinda like pulling teeth getting parts. Around building a an ar in 22 arc, you know, whenever all the appropriate parts show up to put it together, that's pretty cool 1. It's like the same same overall length as a 02:23 or, like, fits in the magazines.
You need to get a new follower, but, I think you use A65G follower. But it's basic basically replicates ballistic of a 22 02:50. Oh. And it's like... I'll show you cartridge I got ammo for it, like, just teeny little fat kinda of fat cartridge, but made to shoot heavier bullets. Because 22 fifties were, like a 02:20 swift originally, we're only made to shoot, like, 50
grain bullets Right. 55, maybe at most, unless you got a custom barrel put on there with a tighter twist, but these ones are, like, like a lot of other new cartridges like made to shoot, like more efficient heavier bullets. It'll kill stuff. It actually... That actually would be a good black bear rifle. Yeah. Like, if if Sadie ready to go hunt next or something like that would be a good 1 because it won't kick at all. Put a suppressor on there and have added let her have at. Good deal.
Yeah. What do you start buying suppressor? When? Wait till you start buying compressors? It sounds like the paperwork takes a long time to get cleared and stuff. It keeps not you. But especially if he once... If you move into town, like it's a little ease, I guess, like, shot... Some shops you might have go in and do the digit... It's all... Like, put you more days gonna be in town. Really? Many more days you can be in town.
I think I'm here through Friday. Go down and do this paperwork 1 of these days and just do it and order 1. And be done with it, and you... Then you can stop thinking about it. And, would be like, oh, Got it. And they call me. It's in. They've been they've been turning around, like, if individuals doing them, like, it's it's kinda random. Like, you don't know for sure, but the last few ones I've done have been, like, 2 to 3 months,
but they've had people... Like, a lot of people get them done in, like, a couple days a week, 2 weeks. I always heard it was like a year. It used to be used to be used to... Be and now you can just go into the gun... Any of these gun shops. And It's all... Great. You don't have to be like, oh, no. Gotta go to the police station and do this or go over here and do that. Sweet everything done right there.
That's the reason I never did it too, because I was like, I should, like, a whole day of, like, when you run it over here and doing this and over important that because you used it, you... Like, I used... When I did my first you... You had to fill out, like, the paper form. That's a whole deal because you, like, purchase the suppressor, then you have to do the paper form. Right. You have to go get passport photos.
Go to, like the police station get fingerprint cards, and then, like, take it to the troopers to have signed, and then they can, like, mail it in. And now yeah. Like, they got like, you know, century hardware frontier has a kiosk. They've got a few, like, Alaska ammo has a key... Where you just do your fingerprints and stuff, like, do everything right there. And there's somebody there that's, like, if you have any questions, just ask me. I do this every day, like, 25 times. And oh, it's...
It was simple. I went in and did it, and it was very, very easy. Sweet. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're nice. It's quiet. That's 03:08 so quiet. Yeah. I don't even wear the mu. Yeah. At all. It's amazing. But it's a... What really surprised me was how far off. Oh yeah. From site in without the suppressor on there, shoot it. I mean, it was on paper. Yeah. But I was like, holy shit. Like, at 300 yards, that's, like, missing a moose. Yeah. Well especially with, like, a lighter barrel
rifle and a heavier suppressor, like, yeah. You... When you add that weight on the end, it does change where your point of impact, But, aside from that, it doesn't change the accuracy really at all. It sometimes it seems to improve it. Yeah. But I'll show you if you too. Like, they make... Like, there's just some stupid nice, like lightweight ones now. Like, this year's the first year I'll ever, I'm gonna bring 1 cheap hunt this
year. Alright on. I never have because the ones I had were where I was too heavy, like, not worth carrying that. But it was pretty cool that blah the big... Well both my black that shot with the rifle, but that that big 1 up the hill. It's like 15 yards away over the can, just, like, hear that whack. Like all somebody. Got him good there. He won't recover from that 1. And he was... Yeah. Like, I just... He hit him right straight in the chest, so I didn't have exit, but he was, like there was
so much blood. He's just like, lungs vaporized. Wow. He Yep. That was something I don't like. But the suppressor on. None of the soft cases, will the rifle go into. Yeah. The snow machine, the gun, won't go in, like, that's why that's why now, like, a lot like the rifle I'm plan on taking cheap hunt that browning, like, 18 or 20 inch barrel, that would. With, like, some of those lightweight suppressor or like, 1, like, the 1 you have
in a short. Like my, like, just check bait rifle, Like usually, Always used their use my 3 75 or 03:38, but I got a guide gun in 03:38 that's threaded. I had to get an adapter, but I used that same can. You have in a short. Like, I just took the end off. Was like I done you just take the end of it off. And yeah. Shorten it I didn't need it, like, super quiet, but the last time I had to shoot that thing in the trees. I was... Deaf for, like, 5 minutes. And even with that, like, in that little bit
shorter barrel. It was pretty manageable, but that is they do get longer. So there's no free launch, I guess. What are you shooting wolves with? Usually, my... Well, I've changed it up in the last couple of years, so I have a Grenades timeline under a trapping license, you can use it 22. That's right. Yeah. So I carry a 22, but I have a Ar strapped to my just his backup up. Yeah. In case So I start with the 22, and if I don't get them, it's a 22 Mag actually.
Yeah. And then if the or beyond reach of the 22 meg I switch to the lu. Nice. That's not a bad plan. Because the 22 Mag shoot all the way through a wolf. Oh, yeah. Yep. A little better than the 3 80, usually, Yeah. I used to use a mini 14 or Ar 15, but... Yeah. Some of some of those menu, like, you nick him, and it just puts a big tear in In the back. Yeah. 22 max is a good gun, man. And it's good for a lot of stuff. Yeah. I got I got that Celtic Pm
m r 30. It's oh, nice. Perfect because that pistol that holds, like third is it 30 30 rounds in the magazine. And so they have these aftermarket. Parts now that you can you can get the stainless mag and, like, different middle parts for the for the action and stuff? Yeah. And they don't jam anymore. Like, when need all all parts in there. And that works pretty reliable even in the cold. Yeah. Yep. Get a suppressor for that too easy cool. Yeah. I use this M pro 7 oil.
Okay. Yeah. I have some of that stuff too in the attempts and it doesn't... It doesn't jam my R 15 or my handgun gun. Nice. Yeah. That's something people can overlook too. You getting a trouble used stuff that's like 2 too thick or Dirt solidifies too much in the cold. Just the little light, light, light pain of and sevens get money. Yeah. Nice. We've been rolling for a couple hours. Will probably better better get you back home. Yeah. I want you staying up too late.
My kid's been staying up late lately, man. Just crushing me that I can't get up in the morning. I've had a run of way late. We've been working till, like, 6 07:00 at night. Yeah. And, of course, I'm not just gonna climb in bed get eat dinner and relax for a minute and, yeah. But my mornings haven't... I've been, like, starting until mine. Yeah. Well, I mean, being starting working. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy. It's easy to get in odd sleep patterns in the summer around here.
It's up super late doing stuff. I'm not sure to do stuff at night than in the morning. Personally. I like... I I'd would like to be a morning person, like, when I can actually get in a rhythm where for 2 days in a row, I can get up 06:00 in the morning, 05:30 in the morning and be productive. But I'm probably not that guy long term. I... But I I like when I like when I can be, through of short periods that I can be that guy. Because I tried it... I started well, like, walking all
mornings. I actually get up on time to do it. I'll take the dog and go, like, walk all the way down the hill this way, and then back up the other way or vice versa, so I don't die when we go she hunting. But I'll start walking. August 10 August 10 August 19. Yeah Yeah. That's alright. Someone's gotta carry all your shit. Yep. Somebody. Oh, man. But, yeah, It's gonna be here
before we know it. So... Yep. So out there and get all your mountain house before somebody else house before before you end up with beef str off 12 days in a row or whatever. I don't know what the worst 1 is. But. Yeah. Anyway, the end of 12 hour day Hiking they're all good. That's true. Alright. Well, anyway, appreciate everyone listening to listening to ton talk if you enjoy the podcast. It'd be cool if you leave a good review or... On itunes or wherever
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