Did Trump and Zelenskyy’s meeting turn into a ‘shouting match’?
Oct 21, 2025•26 min
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Episode description
US correspondents Mark Stone and Martha Kelner discuss the latest on Trump’s attempt to end the war in Ukraine, including whether his meeting with Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday moved the dial at all.
Martha also speaks to our economics and data editor Ed Conway about Trump’s battle with China over rare earths. You can read more from Ed here.
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