WILDER INTENTIONS-C.J. Wynn

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Slash you are d er. Just go to ZipRecruiter dot com slash murder. Zip recruiter the Smartest way to hire Good Evening Angela was stabbed forty four times. This was personal. On the November morning in twenty and fifteen, Christopher Jackson waited for his fiancee, Angela Wylder to pick him up from work, as she always did, but this time she didn't show and Christopher's calls went unanswered. The police found what looked like a scene from a horror movie at

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it very much.

Thank you so much for joining us with this remarkable book and remarkable case just open. I wanted to know how you came to this case and maybe had this opportunity to talk about the assistant you received from author best selling author Shanna Hogan.

Sure.

So, I'm originally from North Dakota, and while I don't still live there, you know many friends still live there, a lot of my family still live there, and so I had heard about this case. It was being talked

Know, mentoring me through the process.

So she was an excellent person to go to anytime I ran into any issues, any questions I had, So she was instrumental in all of that.

Now, that's obviously she recognized your passion for writing and your potential let's get to November twelfth, twenty and fifteen, and you introduced the central characters, Christopher Jackson and he works at Walmart and his fiancee has introduced in the introduction, Angela Wilder, calls in that work or they talk at work. So what is the gist of the conversation specifically when they talk, what is she telling him is going on around the house that night?

Sure, so he worked overnight shifts at Walmart from ten pm to seven am, and it was pretty standard that they talked all throughout the night, whether it was text, messager calling. He would call her on his first break, his second break, his third break, and then they would kind of text in between. Usually it was just to say hi, just to make sure Angela was doing okay. They had a young son at home with them. She had just found out she was pregnant again at this

So they also promised her. He promised her too, that he would call again. She complained about being tired, and he knew she was overworked trying to do these nursing classes and also be taking care of the children and pregnant, so he knew that her being tired was justified. So what happened with their correspondence during this his shit at Walmart?

Sure, so, just like always, he called her on his first break at midnight, and then he called her again on his lunch break at two am, and they talked for a few minutes, and then when he called her on his third break at five am, she did not answer the phone anymore, and he thought it was kind of strange.

But you know, like you had mentioned, he knew that she was stressed out about school, she was tired, she.

Had just wound out, she was pregnant, so she was kind of already feeling those initial signs, and so he thought, you know, she probably just fallen asleep. He wanted to let her get her rest. In fact, he then text messaged her at about five thirteen am and then said, you know, I hope you're getting some.

Rest, sweetheart. I love you. I'll see you in a few hours.

And okay, so she was okay, go ahead, Oh no, I was I was going to say.

And then she was scheduled to pick him up at seven am that morning, and he still could not get in touch with her. She still was not answering the phone even at that time.

Okay, So he gets in the cab and gets back home. What does he notice right away? And what does he what does he see? What does he discover?

So he kind of starts to theorize with him maybe her phone fell on the floor, maybe it's barry underneath the blankets, and she's just you know, sleeping hard. And so he didn't really know if he should be kind of annoyed with her or if he should be just more understanding that, you know, that she needed her rest. And so, yeah, like you said, he got into a cab,

Now he yelled for his wife, Angela fiance, and no response. Why did he not run in and see what the welfare of his son and his wife was and what did he do?

Right? Right?

So?

Right, So as he walked towards the door, he did notice that it appeared to have been kicked in. It wasn't just standing open on its own. It hadn't just been opened and just blown open and had been kicked in. The lock mechanism was stripped out of the you know, the wood in the door. And so, like you said, yeah, he did yell in there, and I think to him he just felt something wasn't right and he recognized and

And so what he ended up.

Doing is he just stepped right back out and called nine to one one.

So police arrive. They want to make sure that he does not go into this house regardless, and they need to make a welfare check. So that's what this is about. They go inside, everything is clean and immaculate, but there's a locked bedroom door. They eventually have to kick that door down. What do they find? What's the state of Angela in that room?

So when they first walk in, you know, the house was immaculately clean. There was no sign of any kind of a struggle. They kicked the bedroom door down and they walked in and they found that that even though that linens on the bed were kind of rumpled and messed up, there was nobody in the bed. But as they walked further in, they could see that there were

Now they obviously know that this is a serious crime scene. They have to secure that Sergeant Dave Goodman is called from the officer or ruel that was at the scene. And again, like I said, they secured the scene and made sure that the Christopher didn't do anything regard regardless of his protestations anyway. And then they also right away had the called the Deputy State Attorney Kelly Dillon to get a search warrant, so that was all taken care of.

Well, they weren't able to make a total determination right there at the scene, but once the crime scene unit came in and started looking, they noted, you know, that her chest had been riddled with wounds, several cuts and stab wounds. The side of her neck there was a gaping wound on the side of her neck which it created a significant amount of blood underneath her torso, her

And police determined very quickly that this is not a home invasion gone wrong. There's no theft. This is just a deeply personal murder, isn't it.

Yeah, And you know, it didn't really take long for them to know Angela was not from North Dakota.

She was a transplant from Alabama.

She had moved there a few years earlier with her former husband, Richie Wilder Junior, because he joined the military. There's a military base there, air Force base there in Minot. And so through kind of initial interviews with Christopher and you know, some of Angela's family members calling in, they realized that Angela really didn't have a network friends in minut It was her and Christopher, her children, and the only real outside relationship she had with that was that

So right away they have to focus and eliminate Christopher Jackson. So they take him for questioning and they get from him. They have to get it from somebody the dating and marital history also of not only he and Angela, but also Richie in Angela. So tell us what they learn about this dating and marital history of all these folks.

Sure, so, Christopher and Angela had been high school sweethearts. They had dated off and on throughout high school, and then Angela had kind of when she graduate from high school, she had kind of moved on. She had went off to college for a little bit. She had had another relationship with someone, she had a daughter with that person.

And for murder in twenty fifteen.

Now this Cynthia, what's her background and what's her status with Richie at this time in November of twenty fifteen.

Sure so in twenty fifteen November twenty fifteen, Richie and Cynthia Wilder had been married for about two years. Coincidentally, right out about the same time that Angelo was reconnecting with Christopher, Richie was connecting with Cynthia Wilder. At the time, they worked together at a vocational center in Mine. Not they were just kind of acquaintance acquaintances at work, you know, they passed by each other as shift change and things

Let's get back to the police investigating in this. Sergeant Goodman and detective Matisse. Once they talked to Christopher and once they established what do they gleam from Christopher Jackson in terms of just their gut feeling about his culpability or involvement in this murder, before we talk about their approach and they're speaking with Richie Wilder.

Sure, so one of the first things that you know that we talked about is Christopher didn't go into the house. And that was one of the first red flags for the detectives is how could this man not have run into his house if there was a chance his family was hurt inside, And that was something that really stuck with them. They were really bothered by that. But then after about an hour of talking to Christopher, they knew that this man had just had his entire world up,

Now they record every bit of the interactions with Richie, so Richie is informed they go to inform him about what has happened with his wife. So they're they're getting his reaction to this news as well, and they're also gauging and noting and studying his reaction to everything that they're going to ask him about this investigation, since they're keying in as a next logical suspect in all of this.

Sure, so Richie was brought down on the police station actually just a few hours after Christopher Jackson was, and they were actually seated in rooms right next to each other, although neither of the men knew it at the time, but Richie kind of walked in with an air confidence about him, you know, he had kind of alluded to the police that he'd heard maybe a snippet here there something was going on at his ex wife's house, but he wasn't really sure his wife had the I'm Cynthia

On his face.

Right and they knew all they knew already that Angela had likely fought pretty hard for her life. She had broken fingernails, you know, the curn scene unit had had found that, and so right away when Dave Goodman saw that scratch on his face, it was like a you know, just right away, something happened here, you know, and Richie, Richie,

Got real nervous.

His you know, his his legs started pumping dumb it down. He started ringing his fingers together, swallowing hard.

You know, it was just it was it was very obvious that he was hiding.

Something at this first interview that he spoke to police, what does he say about Christopher and how does he sort of direct their suspicions towards Christopher.

Initially, Sure, well, he first of all says that he first of all says that Christopher is a nice guy, that the two children that he shared with Angela, as far as you know, Christopher becoming their stepdad one day, he's fine with that.

How he kind of.

Manipulated and turned it around to how Christopher might have done something is by painting Angela as someone who may have deserved to have something like this happened to her. That he could understand if Christopher had done something like this because Angela was difficult to live with, a difficult person.

They also press him many times when he makes it, tries to cite examples, but with the out any specific so they're not easy on him. There's they're sort of pressing him when they see that he is is rattled and not so confident. But they really don't get too much out of him, except now they have to get a search warrant for his wife's vehicle. Why is that tell us about what they have to get a warrant for? And why.

Sure?

Well, they mean, you know, they acted very quickly. They didn't waste any time. They got warrant secured for Richie's vehicle, Cynthia's vehicle, their apartment. They're electronics, Christopher's electronics, you know, Christopher's car, his computers, everything like that. And so that afternoon, the same afternoon in Angela's body was found, they were at Cynthia Wilder's elementary school that she taught kindergarten at, checking her vehicle. And that was at you know, three

They also had to speak to Cynthia as well, because there is a possibility that he has to you know, when he spoke. He also had an alibi for that evening. So tell us about the alibi, and now, of course the detectives need to speak to her, see what she has to say.

Yeah, So, Richie's alibi was that he worked that night. He was working as a CNA at Trinity Hospital. His alibi is that he worked from seven to eleven PM that night and that he went directly home afterwards, and that he never left his house again. His wife corroborate, corroborated that story. Later that afternoon, Cynthia Wilder said that they were home in bed, that one of their children had woken up twice during the middle of the night and she had tended to those while Richie was still

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So CJ. Now they had this opportunity to speak to Cynthia, his wife, and to Richie. Now, how did they proceed with their investigation from there? Given the information that both of these people gave them, tell us about the vehicle search of the vehicle.

Sure, so, while they were searching the vehicle, they had Cynthia Wilder in the principal's office at Loos and Clark Elementary School, which I mentioned she taught kindergarten. She basically had the same reaction as Richie.

She had heard some.

Things here and there about it that something was going on at Angela's house. She had seen the police cars that morning, but didn't really think that much about it. She said the same thing as Richie. Didn't surprise her that Angela would have police cars over there. And then also when she was told that Angelo's phone dead, there was again no reaction whatsoever, and she reiterated that Richie had been home all night, and so the police knew right away.

But her reaction too, and.

It's noted in Detective Matisa's report, is that Cynthia was shaking. She was very nervous. They knew she was very nervous. And while they're talking to her the crime.

Sceneion is out searching her Honda Pilot.

And it's pristinely clean everywhere except one spot on the passenger side door panel, and it's just a very small, very very small spot of like a reddish, reddish brown stain. Nothing else stood out in the car from that, and so they did end up swabbing that, for example, to send to the Bismarck crime Lab for testing.

Now we mentioned you mentioned about the that they knew that were broken fingernails from Angela from the crime scene, and so there was also they were awaiting the DNA results from that as well.

M Yes, they yet the uh the medical examiner had taken DNA from underneath Angela's fingernails, and then they had that reddish brown stain that they had taken a swab of, and both of those went to the crime lab for testing for DNA, and it was about two weeks after two or three weeks after that they got those results back.

And what were those results?

The DNA underneath and fingernails was Richie Wilder Juniors. And the stain that was in Cynthia Wilder's Honda Pilot was in fact blood.

And it was Angela Wilder's blood.

Now, as a result of this, what happens in terms of Richie his attorney is Carrie Rosenquist, and in terms of trying to account for the first interview that he had where police basically are accusing him of this murder. What's his reaction? His lawyer is there? What does he have to say to police?

So Richie was arrested, you know, almost five weeks to the day after Angela's murder. And when he was first arrested, he didn't say anything. He wouldn't say anything, He wouldn't talk to anybody. But then he got a little bit antsy in sitting in jail. And so in March of twenty sixteen, the state's attorney Kelly Dillon and Dave Goodman got word from Richie's lawyer, Carrie Rosenquist that Richie had a story to tell. And so they sat down with

And so.

Richie told the detectives that Christopher had given him a burner phone he had given him two pictures of Angela and Christopher and the kids out of state, which they were not supposed to do according to the divorce agreement in child custody arrangements. And Richie was just to wait until Christopher called him and told him that it was time to go to catch Angela in the act of cheating, and so.

This he was ready to go if this didn't happen right away. But within days he did get a call. Tell us the call.

He did, yes, So on November twelfth, it would have been well, it actually would have been the early morning hours, and November thirteenth, as Richie claimed, about one thirty in the morning, Christopher called him on the burner phone and said, it's time. It's time to do it. It's time to do it. And so Richie didn't know what was going to happen, but he drove out to Walmart and he picked up Christopher, and him and Christopher drove back to

Angela really is cheating on him, on Christopher.

And so, according to Richie, Christopher walked over to the bed and he pulled the bedding back, but instead of another man laying with Angela, it was actually a body pillow, so there was nobody actually there with Angela. But Richie continued with the detectives and said, but that didn't seem

H yeah, and then he said he wanted to He waited in the living room to confront him, saying, what did you do that man? Something like something like that. So, just to continuum of this, as you write a preposterous story, what was the what was Sergeant Goodman and what was his reaction to this story?

Goodman is fascinating to watch and what he does. He kind of just sat there stoically. He'd throw in a question here or there, you know, just to see if he could elicit anything additional or you know, just to see if anything from the get go made sense about Richie's story. But then he just kind of sat back and waited for Richie to finish, and then he kind of dropped a little bit.

Of a bombshell on him.

And what was that bombshell?

Well, Richie had claimed that he went to pick up Christopher from work at his lunch break at two o'clock in the morning, and that he brought Christopher, and that he brought Christopher back.

Just a short.

Time later to Walmart. Well, everybody knows that there's cameras everywhere in Walmart. Well, everybody except.

Ritchie, apparently he knows that.

Yeah, and so Goodman had just received an additional batch of security footage from the Walmart security team the night before, and so they had spent hours the night before watching this video and it proved that Christopher never left Walmart that night, and so they knew right away that Richie

Yeah, so they confront him about that, and now as well, due diligence, these detectives have to check out Christopher. Well, they have to check out Richie's story as preposterous and implausible as it is, they have to check it out, and in the process they tell Christopher about Richie's story,

Yeah, so he was actually hired. He has actually hired just a few days before Richie and his lawyer sat down with the detectives for the first time and told the story about Christopher giving him a phone and pictures and things like that. And so Ross Rolshoefin, he's out of Grand Force. He's a fantastic detective. He works mainly on you know, things that happen in the oil fields around North Dakota and Minnesota, but he has his fair share of federal murder case is under.

His belt as well.

So they had really got hired the best of the best in him to try to find any possible way that Richie Wylder was not guilty of murdering Angela Wylder. But by the time Ross met with Richie face to face, Richie had determined that the original store he went with wasn't going to work anymore, so he had come up

And now he was telling.

Everybody that Paul Madrealis had actually been the one to murder Angela and was hired as a hitman by Christopher Jackson.

Yeah, so this ongoing conspiracy to try to undo what he had already done. Also, this is also one of the factors is that all of these phone calls and all electronic devices would be later be able to be accessed. But also any contact on phones with Richie in prison, with his mother Geneva, or with his wife Cynthia were also recorded as well, weren't.

They yep, m hm, yes, And he made plenty of them any chance which he could get, he was on the phone. And at this point he had actually thought anyways that he had recruited another cellmate who was eventually released from jail to do some bitting for him against Paul Madrila's.

So briefly, not to give this too much credibility, but basically, what did he have these people? What did he attempt to have these people do in terms of his taking the heat off him as a murderer. What grand scheme did he have to be able to do that?

Well, he thought that because Paul Madrelais was actually let out on bond as well, and so that left Richie still imprison by himself, you know, in jail by himself, and he had made another connection with another man named Adam Monsige while he was in jail, and Ritchie's got that Adam Munzig was just kind of a puppet that he could kind of control, and so what he did was Richie is actually the one who bailed out Adam Munzige.

Actually Cynthia Wilders.

The one who did that on Richie's direction, failed out Adam mon Sigue. And I think eventually what it was it was believed to be supposed to happen, is that while Richie was working on the inside to help Adam Monsig in any charges he had against him, which we now know, Richie had no power to do that. Clearly, Adam mons Sigue was probably supposed to kill Paul Madrialist, write out of suicide note and make it look like he had committed suicide because he couldn't live with the

And all the meanwhile, you have you document all of the desperate attempts by this guy number one. He thinks he's a really bright guy, and he's much smarter than the inmates that he's dealing with, and yet he's got he's manipulating his mother and his wife to be able to bail out these guys, and he's telling them that he's very very confident his wife and his mother that he should be able to get these charges dealt with.

Sure, well, you know, I think all along, from the time he was arrested in December two thousand and fifteen till the time he actually went to trial in December of twenty sixteen, I think Richie thought this.

Was just a game to be played.

I think he really thought that there's no way that he'd be convicted of this, that he could explain anything away that no one saw through the lies that he was telling. And so really, you know, his trial was supposed to last about two weeks. It lasted about three days because his lawyer didn't put on any witnesses, he didn't provide any defense whatsoever. Actually, he didn't do anything. He didn't give jurors any glimpse or any opportunity to

Than an hour to come back and convict him of murder.

Yeah, it's it's fascinating too that he did do what could considered a vigorous cross examination of the prosecution witnesses. However, when it came time, even in his opening statement, it was inadequate and bizarre, as you right, closing statement as well, and this this idea that he wouldn't even mount a defense, it was, as you say, surprising and shocking.

Yeah, it was, you know, just allowing Richie to kind of continue to spout these conspiracy theories, you know, of a fiance and contract killers, and you know, it was I write in the book it was a thing out of the stories he was telling, was a thing out of movies.

And it was just very.

Surprising that, you know, that his lawyer didn't try to do something to change that trajectory of Richie just constantly digging holes for himself over and over and over again, deeper and deeper and deeper every time.

You write that. It's also odd that either that either the attorney either knew or as as Cynthia had said that, Richie claimed later because I'm jumping ahead, that the Rosenquist had suggested the story. However, it seemed that like unlikely that would be. However, you you say that, it's also very odd that he would have sat through, you know, two preposterous story worries that were super implausible, right, and then yet and yet still defend this guy at trial?

No, No, not at all. They were very surprised by that. The prosecution was.

And I you know, and that might be the one time that his lawyer did say, you're done talking now, we enough talking.

Yeah.

The evidence they did have was essentially some damning evidence was the two interviews with Richie lying and being caught in a lie and then being told by Goodman and confronted by Goodman and Matisse. So it was very very telling, compelling and damaging you right that right after though Cynthia, people didn't really notice that Cynthia was sitting in the court right behind the defense table. How did they react

She she was very emotional in the courtroom. Her sister had to, you know, kind of calm her down. She was very emotional in the hallway. When interviewed by reporters, she was still maintaining that there's no way Richie could have done it, that he was home with her all night, how much she loves his how much he loves his children, what a great man he is.

She was still singing his praises.

And with but you know, with I don't think that as far as like police records go, there are no additional recordings that I have picked up anyways, of the two of them talking after he was convicted, because very shortly afterwards she had the more to say herself.

And it wasn't very long before before, you.

Know, let's talk about her behavior right after this man that she stands up for, that she supports. She's there in the courtroom crying over what does she do shortly after?

Well, she not to go back too far, but and I won't belabor this, but Richie was arrested in December of twenty fifteen. By January of twenty sixteen, Cynthia was already sleeping with someone else. She had already started a relationship with someone else and reaching out to an ex boyfriend and starting up a new relationship. By the time Richie was convicted.

Just a couple of.

Days later, she was going out on the town with one of her ex lovers.

Matt walters, Now, what does he tell? What is he told by Cynthia? And then how does it get to the point where the police find out about some of these conversations.

Sure, so, while Richie sat in jail, Cynthia and Matt began communicating again over Facebook messenger, and it was Cynthia who reached out to him to facilitate that sort of reconnection.

A knife to do this?

And Cynthia wrote back and said, essentially, it wasn't supposed to be a knife, supposed to be a gun. And this automatically made you know, the hairs on the back of Matt Walter's net kind of stand up, saying, Wow, she's been telling me for a long time she knows nothing about this. So he kind of let it go for a little but then she kept kind of dropping these weird things here and there. So he finally reached out to Mind at the police department because he did

To be drawn into it as well, and so.

Within a few weeks then they made him a confidential informant. And so what Cynthia thought was going to be a really fun date out on the town with her former lover was actually Matt Walters sitting with a recording device in his car and on his phone to record everything she said.

And she did say much more damaging things, didn't she And you have this?

She did? She did? She did?

She She basically laid it all out for Matt.

Walter's how.

Yes, Richie absolutely did kill Angela, not only that, but because Angela deserved it.

Cynthia was still very much adamant that it had to happen.

She revealed that her and Richie had planned it for two years, that she ended actually had been stocking Angela. She had been sitting outside her house at night to find out when Angela would be home alone and Christopher would be gone at work. You know, she said things like, you know, Richie got sloppy. She was mad at him for getting sloppy. She was mad at him for leading DNA. She was very explicit in what she would have done differently to make sure that there hadn't been any DNA there.

You talk about the trial as well, because Kelly Dylan, the prosecutor, is just dying to be able to prosecute her, and also at this trial, she has an opportunity to cross examine Cynthia on the stand as well, So she really wants this opportunity just tell us about this trial.

Sure, So it kind of went back and forth because initially Cynthia wanted to go with not guilty, but then she was eventually talked into maybe you should submit an Alford plea, which is essentially admitting that the state has enough information against you to probably find you guilty. And so Cynthia was up on the stand and Kelly Dylan was asking her, you know about all these things that

For any of these things.

And the only example she could give was when Angela and Richie were married several years prior. There were no other examples, and it was it. And the other thing is is that Cynthia never said she was sorry, She never expressed any remorse, and the judge had no choice but to hold her accountable for that.

She had been offered a plea agreement, but she declined. They didn't expect they didn't expect the reaction from the judge. What was the judge's reaction?

Sure, they had asked the state had asked for a twenty five year sentence, her lawyer had asked for a ten year sentence, I believe, and the judge gave her life without parole.

Yeah, we haven't mentioned. Just as an aside, Ritchie was arrested. They noticed he was trying to escape, so he was arrested convicted of attempted to escape along with her sentence and convictions were her aiding and abetting him in his plan to escape.

Yes, yep, that one she did admit to.

Right now, all of a sudden, done these both people are are going to be doing life without parole. You reached out to Cynthia in prison. Tell us a little bit about that.

Sure, So we began emailing in October of twenty eighteen, which was actually just about three months after she was originally sentenced, so she had only been in prison for about three months. And we exchanged emails for several months, and then I eventually went and visited her in prison, and throughout the course of our email correspondence, she also

Right, What else did you You didn't just contact her for that information, yet that's very valuable information that you wanted. What else did you find from this correspondence? What did she impart to you about her life and maybe even motivations?

Sure, I mean she had you know, she she had a troubled upbringing her her mom. Her relationship with her mom was not good. Her mom was kind of promiscuous, didn't spend a whole lot of time at home, you know, And you know, Cynthia always vollowed that she wasn't going to be like that, but she actually did kind of turn out like that.

You know, she hadn't. She had been married prior to.

Richie, and she had cheated on him numerous times over and over again, and she believed you know, in the end, I think she was easily impressionable but in the end, you know, she believed everything Richie told her about Angela, even though most of it was lies, and Cynthia never bothered to Actually Cynthia and Angela actually never talked to one another. She just hated Angela because of what Richie

Angela, and she has no remorse at all.

For her involvement in this. You know, it's interesting to you know. And then you know, one of the things that we find out, or find out during my research and during the detective's work, is that Ritchie was cheating on Cynthia with at least three other women. And that's

Like this is very interesting. What she said to Matt too regards to empathy or remorse, that she felt no emotion. She said, if my grandma died, I wouldn't feel anything either. I'm she remark that she had a lack of normal emotion, didn't she.

Yeah, yeah, And I think that comment alone, I think was a little more for show for Matt Walters to kind of show how, you know, how tough tough she was. She definitely has emotions. She definitely has emotions, but they're they're just with this particular situation. She just doesn't there. There's nothing there that makes her understand the enormity of what she participated in.

Yeah. Yeah, I want to thank you so much for coming on CJ. Winn and talking about Wilder intentions, love, lies and murder in North Dakota. It's been a pleasure talking to you about this incredible book. Is there a website or a Facebook page that people might take a look at this book find out more information.

Yes, absolutely, you can go to my author page at CJ. Winn Author, and you can get the book on black Line Publishing dot com or at Amazon dot com.

That's great. Thank you so much, CJ. Win Wilder Intentions.

Thank you so much. Dan, I very much appreciate it.

Thank you. Have a great night.

Good night, Okay, good to good night.