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ElevenLabs: "It Cannot Be an AI Bubble, because Companies Are Actually Buying It"

Sep 06, 202529 min
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Episode description

At the TechBBQ conference last week in Copenhagen, I had the opportunity to conduct an interview with Carles Reina from ElevenLabs. ElevenLabs is that AI startup for audio applications like voice cloning, text-to-speech, and music generation, which is now valued at $3.3 billion and is among the global stars of the GenAI movement.

I had a pretty exciting and open conversation with Carles, not just about audio AI, but also about a possible AI bubble, about copyright, and about what AI startups will soon be facing - listen in, it's absolutely worth it!

1. From First Investor to Go-to-Market Leader

  • Why Carles Reina switched from investor to operator role
  • The vision of AI Voice as fundamental communication infrastructure

2. Competitive Moats: More than just Technology

  • Research and model quality as core USP

  • The Voice Marketplace: Artists earn with their voices

    • Multi-layered Defensibility: The "Onion Principle"


    3. Competition with Tech Giants: David vs. Goliath

    • Why OpenAI and Google don't keep Carles up at night
    • The advantage of specialization over Big Tech
    • Quality vs. Distribution: Who wins?

  • 4. Growth and Profitability

    • From 0 to $100M ARR in 17 months
    • Unit Economics and the path to profitability
    • Why AI is not a bubble
    • The Future of Startup Financing
    • 2022: Foundation Models, 2023: Applications, 2024: Distribution Why Go-to-Market becomes the new investment priority Distribution strategies for different markets


    5. Partnerships and Licensing

    • Why Apple and Meta increasingly rely on partnerships
    • ElevenLabs Music: The legal path through record label deals
    • Telcos as new sexy distribution partners
    • Speech-to-Speech and Real-Time Conversations


    6. The Future of Voice AI

    • Expanding from 70 to 500 languages
    • Omni-Models: Music, voice and sounds from one model
    • Enterprise as fastest growing segment
    • Global expansion and new offices
    • The vision: ElevenLabs in every moment of the day


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