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Top5 Tips for Workplace Wellness

May 02, 202341 minSeason 3Ep. 9
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80% of US businesses with more than 50 employees offer corporate wellness programs.*

How important are workplace benefits? Does your insurance provider offer employee wellness initiatives?

These are the questions Tara Thurber discusses with the owners of Innate Living, a chiropractic care center located in Bradley Beach/Matawan, NJ.

Dr. Tom and Brigette McGuire share the history of their practice, the importance of workplace wellness benefits, tips for easy-to-manage wellness tricks in the office and their Top5 Tips for Workplace Wellness.

Top5 Tips for Workplace Wellness

1) Daily & Hourly Motion
2) Increase Hydration
3) Breathe
4) Protein Intake
5) 20-Minute Power Nap

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Transcript

Tara Thurber

Hey guys, welcome back to Top5 brought to you by DefinedTalent. We are a results driven service working with clients to connect them them with quality talent as well as working to make an impact within the recruiting industry. We talk straight about today's professional world with real world professionals, experts in recruitment job seekers and business owners alike. Have a question for us? Send it in you might spur our next

conversation. I'm Tara Thurber, Co Founder and Director of Talent Partnerships here at to DeffindTalent. And joining me today is Dr. Tom and Brigette McGuire, owners of Innate Living a Chiropractic and Wellness company located in Matawan and Bradley Beach. Hey, guys, how are you today?

Brigitte McGuire

We're great.

Dr. Tom McGuire

We are good.

Tara Thurber

I'm so excited to have you guys on this podcast and to really just dive into, you know, our top five tips for workplace wellness. So let's just start by Why don't the two of you give us a little bit about yourselves and how you started your journey to owning a chiropractic practice.

Brigitte McGuire

Do you want to start?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Sure. So I started my journey by listening to Brigette (laughs). I was called. I was a sucker of digestive issues for most of my life. And I tried everything under the sun. Well, what I thought was under the sun to fix my problems, but nothing helped. So I was dating this fine young lady. And she was working for a chiropractor. She worked for chiropractor for a long time. And she's like you got to come

in. It's more than just like back pain, which that's all I thought it was back pain in what's it called?

Brigitte McGuire

Neck pain?

Dr. Tom McGuire

No, car accidents. So I thought only people want to practice for that. And then I went and within weeks, my digestive issues started resolving and started changing. And then that started me on like an entire wellness pathway and journey. And from there not too long after I actually decided because I was like in a crossroads in my life. And that's when I decided to actually go to chiropractic school.

Tara Thurber

Wow.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah.

Tara Thurber

So it all started because of Brigette, then?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Correct!

Tara Thurber

(laughs)

Dr. Tom McGuire

She is the catalyst to my career and our life pretty much so yes.

Brigitte McGuire

Yeah, I fortunately had a mother who's got into chiropractic because of a car accident when I was younger, but she took me from the age of, I would say around seven years old.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

And when I was 17, my chiropractor's wife was pregnant about to have their first kid, my workplace was closing my little Hallmark shop that I worked at (laughs). And I went into get checked and he said, Brigette, your mom told me, you're looking for a job, we need a front desk person. And that's how it all started. So I basically became their, you know, office

Dr. Tom McGuire

Wow. manager and became a massage therapist, in the meantime, started a whole massage practice within there, and their nanny everything for them. But yeah, I just I was like a sponge, everything. So I had been a patient of chiropractic for so long. But as I saw, who was coming in and out of that practice, and how they were being helped. It was, I was just a sponge, I wanted to learn everything about it the ins and

outs. Why a lot of people come find their chiropractor, in emergency situations, or, you know, if they're questioning some of their conventional practices that they've been at, you know, why are they coming in and things just started making me think, you know, I was seeing a lot of different reasons people were coming in, people were bringing their children and babies in and I just wanted to know, understand at all, so I

learned so much. And then clearly that's what led to telling Tom he has to come in for digestive issues. And it did it changed his life. It changed our life. And we just kept going natural from there.

Tara Thurber

Yeah. So I love the name of your practice and Innate Living. Most people would have to Google or ask Alexa, what a name means. Can one of you or both of you save us the trouble and provide us a definition? Explain what that means to you.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Sure. You want to go? So...

Brigitte McGuire

I like this topic.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, we love this topic. Well, first, you know, my practice was just my name for forever was just McGuire Chiropractic and McGuire Chiropractic. And we always just want it to never just be a tie down to just my name, we want it to be like more than what it just me. So we were struggling

trying to find a name. And then when we stop innate is just a very, very, very big word in the world of chiropractic, we feel we like to own this word, because we like we've been using this word since the 1890s is the word innate and innate just means that you're in born with it, or it comes from within. So it's just - we there's an entire chiropractic philosophy, based around the word innate, or innate intelligence, there's so much to it.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Brigitte McGuire

So, for me, like, I can't stand the standard definition when you Google it, because people still don't know, You know, you get a mosquito bite, and you like, they still don't understand what that means, like inborn, like, they don't even get that. So this conversation is all me, I just love to talk about the understanding of getting a paper cut, and how annoying it is. But before you know, it heals up and you didn't even recognize the process of how that happened.

scratch it until it bleeds and it scabs up, and it heals, and you don't even recognize the processes of that.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

You know, the leaves fall off the tree every fall, and then come back in the spring in little buds, and create the whole process all over again. And for me, that's like, there's this intelligence that, you know, there's this phenomenon of conception, right?

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

How a baby's born, the miracle of birth, you know, and there's just such a deeper connection that humans cannot even grasp, as much as we try. And, you know, I am the type of person that tries to reach out and grab it (laughs). So, this like, this word for me is just so, of what we are - just the essence of the soul, becoming a human form. And then the human being able to express itself beyond the humaneness of what we are beyond the physical.

And for me, that is like innate aligns with chiropractic so much, because a chiropractor takes - a chiropractor sees a human with the stresses of the physical form, chemical form, and emotional, you know, forms of stresses, and a chiropractor is able to work with alleviating the stresses in a human potential, which allows the expression of the innate potential, which is just all that extra that we can't tangibly feel, see, hear, you know, and for me, it's that depth that chiropractic just

assists in the depth of who we are and how we express so I love

Dr. Tom McGuire

She loves it. it.

Tara Thurber

I do too. I do too. And it's it's just for me, knowing Innate Living and being a part of your guys's practice as well, it's you guys. Take it, I feel further than what even other chiropractors I've been to. So you know, your name does really represent you both as a whole, and your business and everything that you bring to your patients. So I love it and I love the way that that you just kind of described all of that as well, because I didn't.

I feel like I remember when you guys were working on the name many, many years ago, and there was a lot of conversations that kept coming around it and you kept coming back to this word and this being the name.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah.

Tara Thurber

So, you know, to switch in or get a little bit deeper here. COVID changed the landscape of employee wellness and workplace health. You know, we read, we read a stat released by the US Department of Labor and US Department of Health and Human Services that said 80% of US businesses with more than 50 employees offer corporate wellness program programs, sorry. How important is it to the both of you to encourage companies to seek out some kind of wellness wellness initiatives for their employee?

Brigitte McGuire

Go ahead.

Dr. Tom McGuire

I mean, I think it should be like one of the

Tara Thurber

Right.

Dr. Tom McGuire

You know, Oh, I have insurance now I have now, biggest priorities. I mean, I know a lot of people go into the workforce and and expecting some type of just health benefit. like insurance doesn't make it healthy. And you know what I mean? And now insurance, unfortunately, is just getting worse and worse over the years. So doing some type of initiative in the workforce is everything because giving someone the tools giving someone the wants, like, why do you want to do this? Why?

Why are we going to have a gym put into like the office, you know, to get them to do something, because they're there for maybe 8 to 10 hours a day, five days a week, I know, there's a lot more home, people working from home, but a lot of people are going back to the workforce, and there's a lot of sitting. And there's a lot of food that's in the what's called the cafeteria, that is not

great. So doing those things are so important, because if anything COVID taught us is that, you know, the people that were healthier did not have they weren't obese, they didn't have any of those cofactors, they did better. And the people that had all the extra cofactors, extra weight on them, they had high blood sugar, all those things, they show that they had worse outcomes.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

So it's super important for any and all business to incorporate some type of wellness initiative. It's just everything.

Brigitte McGuire

And I think too, like a lot of people's stressors come from their workplace.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

So talking about the stress, you know, impacting us in a human form.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, not just physical stress, because that's what everyone just thinks she's sitting all day.

Brigitte McGuire

Right. This pressure of time lines, the pressure of not liking a co worker, not liking a boss, really just being unhappy in the workplace. You know, that's a common thing. But one of the main points I would love to stress about this topic is that I'm such a call to action type of person.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

And I really suggest like, people to start demanding a healthy work environment, a healthy workplace, better insurance policies, right? Like, people complain on how expensive it's gotten taken out of the paycheck. But are they really aware of what healthy benefits they're getting from that coverage? So to inform themselves with what is truly being covered under your insurance plans? How can you

better that? You know, and when you get when you get together with your employees, your community and your workplace, you can work for better health initiatives within those insurance benefits.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, it's not just benefits, though, because most benefits, they're designed for sick care.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Like you use your insurance when things go wrong.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And I know there are some insurance policies that are starting to give some -

Tara Thurber

Preventative?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, but it barely preventative but they give money for like, if you join a gym, they'll give you some money back, if you lower like you can do like lower some of your testings, they can give some bonuses, but it's few and far between. But people have probably in the HR world need to really explain to the to the everyone that these benefits are not just for getting you healthy, they are mostly for sick care. I wish they were preventative. I mean, Medicare doesn't even in their

definition. It says we do not cover any preventative care.

Brigitte McGuire

That's crazy.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Zero.

Tara Thurber

That's so crazy.

Dr. Tom McGuire

You know, when you're like in your C5 like of course, I mean, you've you've done possibly some damage up into that point, but you want to get healthy, you want to stay healthy. And these zero it says it in their wording that they do not do not cover preventitve care.

Brigitte McGuire

Well, that's why I suggest like if people come together in their younger years in the workplace, and you know, really fight for a preventative insurance benefit, you know, plan, options that people get to do that. You know, they could throw in a gym, and they

Tara Thurber

Yeah. could do all that. But you need to ask your company, are you just looking for the kickback credits? Or are you really trying to keep your workplace healthy? So yeah, I'm just all about educating on that and making sure you get the best care. Which I think is important, because, you know, having been part of HR having been part of the yearly renewal of benefits. There's a lot and there's a lot of stuff out there. And I think what a Innate

Living does, too. It's it's so important what you guys do, you know from me be walking in and being like, bringing my girls in, oh, you know, my daughter's ankle hurts instead of, you know, immediately going to a doctor and putting her under some sort of a medicine or something, it's just an adjustment on her ankle that was all that she needed. And she walks out and you know, again,

it's strengthening. So something for me, as a mom being a part of a business, it's I find that it can be really discouraging, because there isn't enough out there or there isn't enough people speaking up to make a difference and to bring it into the workplace.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Correct.

Tara Thurber

Now, with Innate Living do you guys have programs for businesses? Do you guys have information for businesses, because as part of HR, and just me part of networking, I'd be like, let's get, you know, something into the hands of HR people, because maybe they're not even they're not thinking outside of the box, unless maybe they have had experience with a company like you before, right?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, like having some like toolkits. Like, we've done it before. Mostly, I'll be honest, most of the things that we've done is in like the school systems. But they're, they're designed for almost the same thing we do like corporate health talks.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Where we educate people and kind of get them to think differently about the way that benefits are supposed to be used and the way that health is, is attained, you know that it isn't just your insurance. And so we do, the best thing is just health talks is educate. I mean, the word doctor actually means and like, I think it's Greek or Latin

means to teach. So when you can actually inform the people like what it is, and what it takes to get somewhere is way, it's like the best thing you're giving them the tools you're showing them. And you could show the HR but just having someone present a good information, not your boring, standard, eat this and you'll be this like, you know, this plain Jane stuff that you get a dietitian advice that is mostly terrible.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And it's like the old school food pyramid. And that's what's made people worse, they gotta go outside of the box. And that's where chiropractic comes from, we have the whole philosophy of like, the inside out, not the outside in and working - if you change that with the paradigm shift as talking to people, it can make them just do the different things.

Brigitte McGuire

There's also in to add to that, I think that there's also a level of understanding that there is not one doctor that can fill the whole umbrella. You know, we live in a world where medical doctors and now doctor of osteopathy have become the primary care physician.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Or gate keeper.

Brigitte McGuire

They are considered the doctor, the

Tara Thurber

Yeah. doctor, the doctor. And when really every doctor including a medical doctor, including a doctor of osteopathy are all specialists. Every single doctor is a doctor with a specialty. So when people can even under just have a simple understanding that a medical doctor learns symptom and medicine. Right? It's it makes sense. It's a medical doctor, it learns a symptom and Right. Right. a medicine. A doctor of osteopathy was very much like a chiropractor back in the day.

Brigitte McGuire

And got mainstreamed. But you know, it's I wish we could just turn the whole idea of the specialists. And I wished that education started in the workplace, started in schools, because then people could understand that like, all, you know, there's this whole world that thinks chiropractors and medical doctors are against each other. That's not the case. There's a need for every specialty. And we're fortunate to live in a country where we have excellent emergency care.

Tara Thurber

Yeah, yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

But when you do have an achy ankle, and you're seven years old, why do we run to a specialist who just knows how to stop the pain?

Tara Thurber

Yep, exactly.

Brigitte McGuire

When we want maybe our seven year old to go, wait, this just started. Maybe we can fix exactly what it is. And the pain will subside once it's corrected. Right? So if we could just move into a world of education in the workplaces of you know, let's start here and let's make our way to emergency if it's needed. So I would the education piece is huge.

Tara Thurber

It's really huge and, you know, to even to kind of dial back a little bit when I was growing up. I was always I mean I've been going to to a chiropractor since I was in my teens, I can remember my mom and dad always going and I'd be like, Yep, I'm going to Dr. Paul today, you know, but as I got older too, and chiropractic care would come up in conversations. A lot of people were against it saying, No, once you go to a chiropractor, you have to keep going every week. So how do you

break? How do you educate people that have that mindset?

Dr. Tom McGuire

That's like, my favorite topic?

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

I literally, there's so many different analogies that I've come up with over the year, I go, Oh, my God, man, those oil, the ones called those Jiffy lubes.

Tara Thurber

(laughs loudly)

Dr. Tom McGuire

Once you go, you got to keep going. Keep changing your oil, it sucks. They really got a good scam going there. Or my favorite is the dentist.

Brigitte McGuire

The dentist.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And those dentists, man, they got you, man, once you go, you can't stop going, they want to go on twice a year, you want to clean your teeth. So stupid to kind of expensive (laughs). And then what's he gonna say? Then most patients, once they hear that they go, oh, yeah, I've been doing that since I was little.

Brigitte McGuire

You will get the smart patients to go, Well, I only have to do the dentist twice a year. And then I only have to go more than that if I have to fix something. Well, that's the - so here's the idea. Your teeth are just in your mouth.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Brigitte McGuire

Chiropractors work on your nervous system (laughs). So we are talking...

Dr. Tom McGuire

A lot of moving parts!

Brigitte McGuire

The whole computer, right? (laughs)

Tara Thurber

(laughs)

Dr. Tom McGuire

Another thing about teeth too, is that, you know, you can, you can run out your tooth, you can lose a tooth, you can lose all your teeth and get eautiful brand new ones, and they looked shiny, they even get different shapes.

Brigitte McGuire

And you can still function in life.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And there are actually people that have no teeth and function through life (laughs).

Brigitte McGuire

Right! (laughs)

Dr. Tom McGuire

You do not have that option with your spine, it lots if it goes away, that takes your quality of life, that takes the way that it functions, that takes everything and that can stop you from everything you're doing. And that's the biggest difference is your whole entire function, your whole world is interpreted through your nervous system. And if you mess that up, you are going to not have a quality of life at all, period. And we get both of those

questions. You know, we get the well, I only have to go there sometimes I like literally does is when I'm paying in pain, or I get the same thing with chiropractors, like people that come to me that like I only used to go to my chiropractor, because only when it hurt.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

I had someone yesterday, she said that she's like, but I just never could commit or stick with it. And now more problems. And my new my new realization has been like because a lot of the everyone always thinks that I'm going to give it time and time and because they always think time heals all wounds is like the classic one. That's only like emotional, physica - your wound more likely than not, it's going to get worse over time. If you are not treat taking care of it

Brigitte McGuire

Right.

Dr. Tom McGuire

It's just gonna get worse.

Brigitte McGuire

Also, um, shoot, did I lose my train of thought?

Dr. Tom McGuire

I don't know.

Brigitte McGuire

What were you? What did you just say? We'll have to edit this part out? What did you you were just saying about the dentist about darn, I had a good point.

Dr. Tom McGuire

I'm sorry.

Brigitte McGuire

That's okay. Um, all right, if it comes back all add it in (laughs),

Tara Thurber

I think well, and I think too I mean, going to the chiropractor every week or every other week is something that what I love a lot, is the fact that I can walk in and speak to you and say I've got even if it's emotional or stress, you

know it is in your body. And it's not, you know, it's not like you're gonna go in and take it fully away and it's gone and never coming back and you're gonna be stress free the rest of your life, but it's being able to the conversations and the education that you go, people enter Innate Living and you get adjusted, you talk to them about you know, what's actually happening and it allows people

to start learning. I feel like it switches the it flips the switch a little bit for people to start learning and thinking differently, all the way down to the food that they are putting into their bodies. Right because that to me is is huge, even when we're thinking about workplace wellness. You know, it's not an even I mean, go as far as school systems and food in school systems, right?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah.

Tara Thurber

It's what are you putting into your body in order to show what can be the best form human form that you can?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah. The potential.

Tara Thurber

Yeah. And I think that that's something so important too for people.

Brigitte McGuire

People also don't see food as a chemical stress, right? So when you're eating high fructose corn syrup, let's say, which is not even a real sugar. So you're, it's like chemical, or you're eating a chemical. So you have now, when you hear chemical stress, people think I worked with asbestos today, or I was smelling fumes, or, you know, chemical stress is a lot of food that is out in that grocery store a lot. And

people don't see that. So even oils down to some of these oils, and how rancid they may be in certain seed oils. It's a chemical stress on the body, if the body doesn't know how to process it, even if it's a natural food. Right, But the body doesn't know how to process it, it becomes a chemical interference, a chemical stressor on the body.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And it becomes inflammatory.

Brigitte McGuire

And what you were saying was like, I got my point back. So going, like the ideal, the ideal client in a

Dr. Tom McGuire

BINGO. chiropractic office may start off, you know, may come in and have never been to a chiropractor before. So yeah, you feel like you're going a lot because you're correcting possibly stressors that have impacted your body for how many years.

Tara Thurber

Right.

Brigitte McGuire

But the whole thing I know, Tom really does at Innate Living is to get when you educate someone on their health the way we do, the idea is to become maintenance like you do for your teeth, your teeth, they require twice a year maintenance, because they're only your teeth, right? And your spinal health, your central nervous system. All the stressors, day to day require a different time of maintenance. And it's different for everyone.

So like, I know, for me, I'm a high stressed person, once a week makes a lot of sense for me.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

But we've had patients who had I'll never forget we had a senior years ago, who was a hunter, a bow and arrow Hunter. And he, it was his greatest hobby. And he had such so many issues that he couldn't hunt anymore.

Dr. Tom McGuire

He couldn't pull back the bowstring.

Brigitte McGuire

And it was it became the stressor on top of the physical stressor, right? Because he couldn't do what he loved.

Dr. Tom McGuire

It was his passion.

Brigitte McGuire

So he came in, and I never met such a committed chiropractic patient. And he followed Tom's whole protocol. And I want to say within a year's time, he was coming in once a month for maintenance. And he did that for years. But the fact that he was able to hunt again was everything for him.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Everything.

Tara Thurber

I just got goosebumps.

Brigitte McGuire

Yeah. I mean, I tell his story all the time when it comes to what maintenance really looks like and what corrective care looks like you know, when you come in, you're starting corrective care. There's acute care a lot of times if you come in and massive pain and something's not, you know, majorly inflamed. But now I want people to understand that he may have come in for that one purpose, and that one purpose, became healed. And now he was on this maintenance plan once a

month for how long. But what happens when another stressor comes into his life, a loved one passes away, he starts eating a certain food that's just not working right and he has digestive issues or whatever. So that's where the mentality of needing to go so much happens, right? Because again, we're humans living in this world of stressors. And until we learn how not to stress it

Dr. Tom McGuire

It ain't happening(laughs).

Brigitte McGuire

We can't live in this world.

Dr. Tom McGuire

To be able to handle it and deal with it and make your body as adaptable, which we humans are extremely one of the most adaptable creatures on this planet, but trying to make yourself as adaptable as possible. With all the stressors where they keep continuously change and coming at you in every single direction, so what does that person say? That girl on Instagram unkillable? What is she saying?

Brigitte McGuire

Oh, I know what you're about.

Dr. Tom McGuire

(laughs) Hard to kill.

Brigitte McGuire

Hard to kill.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Hard to kill you know like you think of it and that's a way yours. That's pretty interesting way to think about it that all stress because that's all this stress is gonna kill me they will say that.

Tara Thurber

Yup.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah (laughs) it absolutely will kill you you know if you don't get strong in every single which way about your brain, your mind,your body what you eat you got to be discipline? Yeah, it's not easy, but it's worth it.

Tara Thurber

Yeah, it definitely is. So as a current patient at Innate Living, I get access to great health and wellness tips and tricks every time I get to come in.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And I don't charge extra for that, Tara!

Tara Thurber

(laughs) And that's the best part about it. I mean, yeah, tips and tricks. It's like, wait, I'm supposed to do this exercise. And sure enough, I mean, you know, we it's funny too, because even my husband does some of these exercises, and the kids are doing wait, it's that exercise daddy.

Dr. Tom McGuire

(laughs)

Tara Thurber

But it's so helpful on a daily basis. And, you know, I would love it if you guys could share a few at work tips for our listeners just to try throughout their day, whether it's at home or in an office.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, that's that's a good one.

Brigitte McGuire

Wobble. Deneral.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Like in the office like one there, they just came out, just listened to this cool podcast. And they were talking about visitors and who fidget. And they actually say the amount of extra calories they burn. And they actually the way that the brain interprets it is it acts like the people that are the most annoying because they're rocking their foot up and down like a million times it mimics running. So they're actually getting a cardiovascular workout.

Brigitte McGuire

I read that, too.

Tara Thurber

Wow.

Dr. Tom McGuire

And it's like they only now and another study just came out I think two days ago. And it's called micro exercises. And you're doing Micro stuff, so people so you can literally be on your desk and taking both your feet and just like literally fishing like pumping your feet up and down. Like you're just bopping your

feet up and down. And if you do that for like a couple of minutes, they say that actually do that over the day, can mimic certain long, long exercises like an hour long just by doing those little bursts of like minutes.

Brigitte McGuire

But with mindfulness that it doesn't turn into an anxiety.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yes! People want to dry into the nervousness and tick and then hear that annoying guy that shakes the whole table. But that's actually a really good one.

Tara Thurber

(laughs) Yeah! Because you know, the calf muscle is the big one that pumps the blood back up. When you're sitting there, you're sitting on one of your biggest arteries, you're sitting on your hamstrings, you're constricting all those things by doing that is pumping blood back up into your brain, and they'll give you more energy. So that's a really that's a that's a new thing that you can start doing. The next thing probably would be just being able to stretch. Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

We all do it with a little bit like you sit there too long. And then you're like, oh, and then you try to like move and you just stretch your back. You do like almost a wake up stretch type of thing.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

But you have to get up out of your chair at least every hour, and just touch your toes.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

I mean just touching your toes is just so beneficial. Holding there for 30 seconds. I mean, you're going to take I mean, I noticed...

Brigitte McGuire

What about a wobble seat?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, you could do that, too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You can use a little wobble disc. And he's sitting out there. What's called if you're sitting there, you can be moving your spine and not degrading your spine because there's no motion. Because if there's no motion, motion is life and if you don't have any, and there's no life, so things will start shrinking up. Not moving. So yeah, the wobble seat would be good. So wobble seat, stretch, I know we're adding some extras in there.

Tara Thurber

What about now? What are your thoughts on a stand up desk?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Still, there's that's another thing. You know, I was thinking about that last week someone was talking about that. And there's just like, Oh, now my feet are killing me ( laughs). You're damed if you do, damned if you don't. And I said, Honestly, what's great about that is that if you have the opportunity to have both.

Brigitte McGuire

To sit and stand. CauseI know like I'm a stander, who ends up leaning on one side.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

Everything shifts and...

Dr. Tom McGuire

You're still moving, right?

Brigitte McGuire

You're still not moving. But even still, if you're then stay your lopsided stander who puts who shifts your weight, it could be worse for you long term. So sitting could be better than that. But if you stand for 20 minutes, sit for 20 minutes. I would imagine that that is better because you just the movement of doing that is a difference, you know?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yes, that's a good one.

Tara Thurber

Awesome. So I would - Do you have more Dr. Tom?

Dr. Tom McGuire

Um, no. Oh, the other one is hydrate.

Tara Thurber

Ah Yes.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yes. Drinking like drinking a lot and no, I hate to say a lot of water. There's like a couple of people that have theories, they're all theories, there is no actual you need to drink this much water per kilogram of bodyweight like there's a guy that came up with a theory I love.

Brigitte McGuire

Don't say a lot because a lot of people overdo it (laughs).

Dr. Tom McGuire

No, they a lot of people over drink, and then they're in the bathroom every 20 minutes. And that is not a good productive thing.

Brigitte McGuire

Right (laughs).

Dr. Tom McGuire

But I usually give a recommendation as far as because I like people eating lots of fruits, and there's a ton of water in that. So I typically will say half your body weight, or a little bit less than that in ounces, but it's also depending on the quality of the water. But the biggest thing that Brigette and I have been really telling a ton of people is making sure they're getting enough good, high quality electrolytes, because water does nothing unless it

actually has salt in it. Unless and if you're not getting the salt and the great magnesium and the potassium, the water just goes right through you. And it just messes with your blood pressure. You might absorb a little bit.

Brigitte McGuire

And we don't mean Gatorade.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Not Gatorade, please don't ever drink Gatorade. If you're spponsored by Gatorade, Tara, I'm sorry, you're gonna loose corporate sponsors.

Brigitte McGuire

(laughs loudly)

Tara Thurber

(laughs loudly)

Dr. Tom McGuire

Gatorade is so terrible the ingredients. They started out great. You know, it was a great invention. They were the first ones to do it in Florida. But it was it's gotten bastardized, and now it's just full of chemicals. It's full of dyes. It's full of high fructose corn syrup, and a little sprinkle of salts.

Brigitte McGuire

Right, right (laughs).

Dr. Tom McGuire

Well, we've been we've been recommending two companies. One of them is called Relight, Redmond's Relight it's just a little electrolyte powder that people use, and it's got the amazing amount of salt in it. And the other one is a company called Elements. They were the first one to come out with it.

Tara Thurber

I like those.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah, Element. Yeah, it's guy named Rob Wolf. And he wrote, he's got a bunch of books out a really smart guy. And he was the first one to come out with it, the Relight we like so I mean, they're the two big ones. But you have to have that. And depending upon how much you're putting out, you need more salts. But on a typical day, you can get away with just having one little scoop or one Element per day. But that is how

you hydrate. Hydration does not just happen by drinking a gallon of water, which is what people think they need to do is not what they need to do.

Tara Thurber

So true. You know, just to kind of put it out there. I asked you that same question. Because I was feeling working out every single morning drinking like three to 4, 32 ounce bottles of water. And I still felt like crap. And then I started drinking the electrolytes. And I it just it shifted, it totally changed. And it wasn't you know, I tried to do one a day. And I felt that shift and an it was such a good

change for me. And you know what I share with people that I talk to you now too, so really awesome.

Brigitte McGuire

Yeah, it's becoming a trend to even I mean, if this becomes a trend, it's a good trend, so I'm not worried about it. But drinking drinking electrolyte water as your first thing in the morning, because we wake up dehydrated.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Brigitte McGuire

It's just how it works.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Andrew Huber, who was just talking about that's part of his like one of his hacks that he does every day. And he has electrolytes every morning. That's the first thing he has before anything else he'll drink electrolytes.

Tara Thurber

So it's time to wrap up and give the people what they want a way to stay healthy at work. So let's hear your Top5 Tips for Workplace Wellness.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Are you asking me this, now?

Brigitte McGuire

Yeah, give me your top five - simplify.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Top5 Oh my god. So top five things I would - Oh my gosh.

Brigitte McGuire

Move.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yes, move.

Brigitte McGuire

Motion.

Dr. Tom McGuire

So definitely motion, some way, walking, stretching some type of motion. Hydrating. Be the next thing. Did I write something down? I think I might have wrote something that I did. So movement, hydration, oh breathing. Breathe. Take some big deep breaths. You know, like just just three deep breaths every hour, just to breathe and consciously breathe. Stop what you're doing and just breathe. So that's three things right?

Brigitte McGuire

Eat more protein.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Eat more protein. Most people Yeah, we had that conversation last week I think.

Tara Thurber

Yup (laughs).

Dr. Tom McGuire

Most people are protein deficient and don't eat enough of it. They eat tons of salads and salads and salads.

Tara Thurber

Yeah.

Dr. Tom McGuire

But they barely sprinkle a tiny piece of chicken on top of it. But eating protein is a big one and...

Brigitte McGuire

A power nap.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Oh, power nap if you work from home. I don't know if you'd be able to sneak that one at the office.

Brigitte McGuire

You can! I see people out in their cars all the time.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Oh that's true.

Tara Thurber

Yeah, I've got like a 20 Minute. Like if I need if I'm feeling I need something. I can't go beyond 20 minutes because then I think that destroys me.

Dr. Tom McGuire

That's called sleeping then, Tara!

Tara Thurber

Right, right right (laughs)!

Dr. Tom McGuire

20 minute is ideal. And the research shows that, too is 20 minutes is like just it's good enough that you're not going full rem and that changes and alters your sleep cycles. So 20 minutes is great.

Brigitte McGuire

And I have a great friend who even says Brigette if you can't sleep, get horizontal.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah. Just lay down.

Brigitte McGuire

Get horizontal for 20 minutes without your phone without anything, but just be horizontal. Yeah, it just changes it up and you know, laying down resting, so.

Tara Thurber

I love it, you guys. Thank you both so much for joining today.

Brigitte McGuire

We love you too.

Dr. Tom McGuire

Yeah.

Tara Thurber

We are DefinedTalent a DefinedLogic service coming to you at Top5. Make it a great day.

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