Welcome to a special episode of the Tam Bellini groups . Top of mind podcast. Today, we are joined by Vicki Tam Bellini, the founder and CEO of the Tam Bellini group. We are going to hear Vicky's predictions for higher ed tech in 2021. Welcome to the show, Vicky . Thanks Katelyn . I'm glad to be here. Why don't we start by setting the stage of what's happening right now in us higher education. What's going on at these institutions right now, Vicky
Caitlin . It's unbelievable. The kinds of challenges that our institutions are facing in the U S and of course, the plates I think we need to start is give , getting some perspective, and it's not the same for every institution because we have so many different kinds of institutions. They're all different sizes. They're in different parts of the country and the experiences are very different.
So first of all, the size of the institution matters the type matters, and the geography is also important. We have barge public four year institutions. We have research institutions. We also have private not-for-profit , uh , liberal art institutions as well as , um, public two year and for-profit institution . So I think when we , um, we and others, and when we think about higher education, it's, it's important to understand that the not, not every institution is the same.
And we , we want to be considerate of the fact that the challenges that, that institutions face can be very different, but in almost every case, the conversations that we have , um, we find that in the last six months in particular , um, people are overwhelmed. Um , they're feeling that the last eight to nine months have been so stressful , um, starting with the way that they have had to adjust their , uh , home lives. Um, most everybody has been personally impacted , um, by the pandemic.
Um, most people know someone that has been sick or lost their life to , um, to the illness. And so they're operating in a very careful environment. They've had to change the way that they work and it's impacted their staff. And so it's created an environment of high stress and , and no matter what else is going on, we want to acknowledge that at the root of all of our work, we're, we have people that have to, you know, be considered in everything that we do.
So the environment that we're , um, working in, in the U S higher education is extremely stressful right now, everywhere.
So with that happening, you know, across the country, really, no one has been left unscathed by the pandemic. What are your three biggest predictions for the year in a nutshell? And then we can dig into each one.
Yeah, sure. First of all, I see that , um, institutions are going to be focusing on adopting a more strategic and sophisticated budget and planning tools. The ones that don't already have tools are going to be selecting and implementing strategic tools. Um, more institutions are going to be moving as much of their operations to the cloud as they possibly can. Um, there's a significant number of institutions that still run the majority of their , um, core operations on prem.
And then I think the , the third thing that I would say is that this'll be the year that we see some new ways of thinking about institutions combining operations. And I look forward to talking with you about what I mean by that.
Great. Well, the first one you mentioned is around budget and planning. So tell us more about what you think's going to be going on in the budget and planning arena
We see is that there are still many institution leaders that are using Excel spreadsheets and other tools to create their budgets. And so in this environment, they are leaders struggle to create scenarios and to do the financial modeling and planning that they need to be able to do as the different scenarios come up or as, as plans change.
And so what , what we're finding is that more and more leaders want to have tools that they can plug in numbers and run dozens of scenarios in a very short period of time, so that as assumptions change as information, and then as real time data comes in that financial modeling and planning can be done very quickly and adjustments can be made in real time because we don't have the luxury anymore of making , uh , you know, thinking about a plan and then implementing a plan over some period of
months. Uh , the , this pandemic has created a situation for all of us that requires us to be able to react in real time to urgent situations and leaders have to have real information, real cost data, and information that has to be available at the touch of a button. And to do that, you need more sophisticated tools than Excel.
I agree with you on that. I think a lot of people have relied on Excel for a very long time, and it's, it is a powerful tool, but it no requires a lot of, you know, a person sitting at the computer doing the data analysis, as opposed to having some sophisticated algorithms and automation behind the planning on your second prediction, Vicki , you talked about people moving operations to the cloud, and this is a trend that we've seen accelerating over the past few years already.
And what do you think is going to be different about 2021?
What we saw last year was that , um, institutions realize that when it wasn't safe to have a large number of workers in a con in a small space, or when it was required that the people work from home, there were simply operations that either couldn't be done or couldn't be done in a timely manner. And, and there were , there was also a realization that , um, more risk was then , um , put into the operation than would normally be acceptable.
And so the institutions that the we've been talking with about this understand, and, and realize that the way to mitigate these risks over the long-term are to move operations to the cloud where third parties are responsible for more of the basic system operations, where you have more , um, backup, you know, disaster recovery, more , um, more people available to help run core system operations.
And I think that there's, there's been an acknowledgement of that for some time, but there hasn't been the level of urgency that, that has now been acknowledged as a result of what we've been through in the last year. So regardless of whether you, the institutions are actually running , um, you know , many cases, in fact, the majority of us institutions in terms of the core systems of record are still running legacy applications.
So for those institutions really talking about for the most part lifting and shifting legacy , uh , on-prem applications to run in a, basically a hosted or hosted managed services environment. Um, we're not, I'm not saying that I think that those institutions are all of a sudden gonna replace those applications with SAS based solutions, because I don't think they will in the near term.
I think they're, they're just looking for ways to mitigate the risk of having to have all the staff and equipment and the , the staff to run the equipment on on-prem that they've had in the past because of the, the risks that they realize were real when, when everyone had to go home.
So that's quite a big job to move all of these legacy applications to the cloud. Do you see some applications being prioritized over others?
Yeah. I think that what we are seeing is that the systems of record of core systems, like , uh, for example , um , payroll systems systems with , um, the most secure data that the institutions responsible for , um, those are the, those are the kinds of applications that institutions are , are tending to, to review first because of the nature of the information that that's held in those systems and the , and the criticality of those systems needing to be available , uh , up and running and
available on a consistent basis. So, yes, those are the ones that we see institutions thinking about moving first .
And for your third prediction, you left us with a little bit of mystery around what you're thinking about with adoption of new technologies. So let's dig into that one. What did you mean?
Well, what, what I'm thinking about there is more combinations , um , of , of institutions and what I'm, what I'm thinking there is that there've been a number of people that are, think are saying that institutions are going to go out of business, or that institutions are going to , and, and I'm , I wouldn't debate that , that there's , uh , there are a number of institutions that are at risk for that, but, but what we're hearing and seeing is that there are conversations that are taking place
among very thoughtful leaders about how institutions can combine operations to stay successful, to stay relevant and to continue to serve students. So that's one way that we, that we seeing institutions think about , um, remaining viable. So for example , um, two or three or four institutions that may be independently might not have the best long-term outlook individually, but maybe by combining operations, they may have, you know , similar , um, that may attract similar students.
They may have , um, programs that might be complimentary or maybe some overlap. So for example, they could , uh , reduce some staffing in some areas, they could combine their , um , administrative operations, for example, and reduce the overhead of running the institution if they combined their operations. Um, we're seeing those kinds of conversations taking place.
And we're also seeing on the, on the public side , um, institutions thinking about how they can combine to share selecting common platforms and for the first time, really seriously looking at how they can take advantage of common environments in sharing , um , human resource knowledge across the public institutions.
I mean, for, for some years now, we've seen where, where it's been mandated institutions combining and combining operations, but now we're understanding and seeing even where it's not mandated that many public institutions are talking about how they can be better stewards of public funds and sharing , uh, operational efficiencies, which is , is a very positive thing.
And then another area is , is another, there are two other twists on this that are, that are also , um, are, are being explored by institutions. That that is consortium's right, where , um, consortium are coming together to, to share , uh, some of some subset of their operations. So for example, the green mountain consortium is, is an example of where we've seen , uh , institutions come together.
Three institutions came together to combine their ERP operations on a , they selected a common platform and they are moving forward , um, that working together , um, they have a shared operations center and they're using a common platform to run their systems of record, and then a different example, but also , uh, another example of , um, way we see institutions working together to share resources and save money.
This is something that roll out in 2021 is the , uh , group of schools that are involved in the Hess consortium, where they're going to , um , 31 or two schools are going to select a platform and think about how they can work together on a common platform to save money. So lots of , um, lots of opportunities and lots of new thinking about working together to , to , um, to reduce overhead, especially in information technology where so much money is that
Vicki , do you have any long shot predictions or maybe a controversial prediction that you'd like to share with us?
Well, this is one I think you can, you can also , um, maybe you want to weigh in on , um, the, the thing that we're seeing, you know, from a , from a teaching and learning perspective, that is also a human characteristic, is that so, so much has changed about the way we work and about the way we , um, the way we're teaching our students, that the, you know, we hear a lot about student expectations and student outcomes and the delivery of education.
And w we, we don't know yet , um, as an, as an industry, how, how long-term student outcomes are going to be impacted as a result of, of the pandemic. But we do know that , um, from a K-12 perspective, many K through 12 have been shut down for last spring, and then this fall, and again, going into two this spring, many students have had to learn from home and go to zoom school, as they say.
And so standardized testing has been impacted, you know, bots of test optional , um , institutions , uh , many more than before.
And so students are rethinking , um , the experience that they, that they want if they've been online for their junior and senior year, or maybe all of their senior year now , will that impact the way that they want to experience higher education, or if their entire freshman year, for example , um, was online, will they go back, will they pay the full tuition for a second year of online education, or are we going to start to see some attrition to more online programs?
And so I think that , um, we'll , we'll start to see the numbers will start to show more movement in , um, in students to more online programs where they can save money , um, by doing more work online and the institutions that have online options for students to take advantage of the degree program, where they intended to be in school will benefit the most and institutions that don't have options for students to , um, to continue with programs at , uh , you know, maybe be some sort of reduced
tuition rate, have the w are going to face the most competition and potentially be at the biggest loss for students. And that I would say this is with the exception of perhaps the most elite private not-for-profits and the most elite research, one institutions who will probably never struggle for, for that student enrollment. I mean , um, but that's not the majority of our higher education institutions.
I mean, the majority of our institutions are , are constantly looking for how they're going to recruit their next best class. So I think that's, you know, be understanding where your competition is coming from and how you're going to , um, recruit those, those students are gonna stay with you for the four years through graduation is going to be even more important in the next 12 to 18 months.
I can see how this has been playing out in my own family. I have a 17 year old stepson who loves learning online has really enjoyed the online learning environment. Being able to do work from home, having a different pace and schedule. So I can really see how the pandemic could have opened a lot of people's eyes to some of the benefits of online learning, where maybe before they were really thinking they were going to go to a four-year institution, they were going to go on campus.
They were going to have the typical college experience. They now may really be rethinking that and thinking about, well, you know, maybe alternatives are just as good of an option for me. And, you know, I , as these conversations are playing out in my own household, I can really see how this is being multiplied over many households over the U S what kind of impact that may ultimately be having on enrollments.
And, you know, that trickles down to many more pressures, as you said, on the institution, no , the need to adopt more automation, perhaps they can't have as much staff. There are many variables here that are going into, what do we think the landscape is going to continue to look like?
So I think on that note, the one piece of advice that , that I would would have is that what we know for sure is that we constant change is not new, but the rate of change and the impact that change is having is, is very difficult for some institutions. And most, every institution has a plan, a strategic plan.
You know, the institutions are typically putting, you know, making them working from a five-year plan, but those plans need to be evaluated and reconfirmed more than annual now because the rate of change and the impact of the pandemic and the ongoing changes that are going to have to be made and, and re-evaluated, and a year is too long to think about , um, how you, how you're going to need to adopt in your own environment.
It's just no longer reasonable or possible to, to think about , um, you know, an, an annual review. And so I would , um , urge every institution to think about , uh , looking at a planning cycle. That's at least semi-annual and , and , and putting a process in place to , to make changes as frequently as possible to, to adapt to this environment that is turbulent at best
Vicki . Thanks so much for joining us today. It's been a wonderful conversation, and I've learned a lot about what's happening and what might happen. Thank you so much for joining,
Thanks for your time, Katelyn , and thanks to our guests for joining in .
If you'd like more data-driven insights about the higher ed technology landscape, check out Tamblyn East free and member only resources@thetamblyngroup.com . And that's the end of our show for this month. We'll see you next time.
