Darkwing Duck

How are you doing? No, dare, It's me Tigger am dark Wing Duck It's me Bunkers. Keep babcat a right ya did agree your favorite fibly you design? Hold? Oh no go. My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tune Jim. Welcome to tune in with Jim Cummings. I'm Brennan, dad of the four Finger Discount Network, joined right now by producer Chris. How you doing, sir, good? How's everybody doing today? We're doing fantastic and of course we're joined by the terror that flaps in the night

himself. He is, of course dark with no No Jim Cummings, Jim, how are you so superb Thank you for asking my friend stay dangerous out there? Oh wow, is here already? Chris? How exciting he is? Yes he is. So I'm doing fantastic. Of course Dark Wings here to discuss bonkers today. Oh wait, no, not Bunkers, We're here to talk about Dark Ring Dark Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I think people have been more excited for this episode than anything we've done in the past.

They just really they love themselves some Dark Wing and for good reason. You've said in the past that. I know it's a big statement because you've voiced so many characters in the past. The pooh Is is just an absolutely icon pop culture. But it's dark Wing your favorite. He's way up there. Yeah. You know people say they always say, well, what is your favorite character? Like, you know, and the problem is it's a

good problem. But I've got a few, you know, so uh, Poo and Tigger or if I've said this before, I forgive me, but they're way up there. And then you know, I go kind of from there right to dark Wing and uh, you know, Taz is in there, Hondo Onnaka from Star Wars, Clone Wars, and Ray from Princess and the Frog. So I've got like five or six, you know, top top dogs there. But you know, there's no doubt about it. I mean dark Wing is he is the terror the flaps in the night. Yeah.

What is it about him that makes him one of your favorite characters? Well, you know, he's the Uh I'm either sorry or happy to say he's the most like me. You know, he's very sarcastic, he's a

he's a Wisenheimer. You know, he's not the biggest guy in the world, but you know, he could talk the biggest guy in the world, and uh, he was just an enormous amount of fun and and I think it was directly related to just how much freedom they gave me, you know, to just improvise and and play and drag everybody along for the ride. You know. Jenny McSwain, the great Jenny McSwain, she was our voice director and to her, I mean, bless her heart, we should get

here on here too. But she said she goes, doing a dark wing session is like riding a horse that you're you found out in the prairie and you're trying to attain it. And Cummings has just gone out of his mind and he's losing it. He's he's just you know, doing all this stuff and carrying carrying on in a thousand different ways, and it was just like,

there's no telling what he's gonna say next. So everybody had to be on this on their toes and and I think it came came across and I'm really pleased because of Disney Plus now and it's one of their top shows and you know, it's thirty years twenty five years old something maybe more so I'm very proud. Yeah, I'm very proud of that. With all the improvising, it wasn't from the get go. That wasn't I've seen the interviews where you said you were like three or four episodes in and they realize, oh

wait, Jim's just gonna make up the catchphrase every episode. Yeah before and then there's an iconic story tell it again, the iconic story about the spot. Oh well, you know, there comes a point in in every script when there's sort of a call to arms, if you will, and dark Wings ready to go in and do some battle with the bad guy. And uh, and he'll show up in a back alley or a balcony of an old, abandoned movie theater and very well let on his end anyway, don't.

I have no idea where the lighting came from, but you know, hepe you stay. I am the terror that flaps in the night. And then there would always be a line in the middle, and the third line would always be I am duck, weak duck, and it would be we probably about five or six shows in and we only did like one hundred and however many it it said, I am the terror that flaps in the night.

It doesn't matter what I'm right here, Jim's gonna say something else anyway, I am duck, wake duck, and sou that was true when you sold that script. How prow were you when knowing that the rot Isn't they trust you to come up with something? Yeah? Well, the thing is I always did their their line as written. I always always did. That was the first take, and I'd say, can we do another take?

Do I just do another day? Sure? And you know Jenny, Jenny would let us do another take, and inevitably they would they would choose the second one. It would be, you know, and it was I don't I don't want to tell this again. But the one that was rejected was really disgusting, and so I won't say it here. How Doc, it's not the urine story, is it. It's not that one, Yeah, that is. It's okay. Actually the floaty had something to do with the floating. Okay, Oh, we don't know that one. Have you ever?

Have you ever told that one before? Maybe you know it's it's you know, I have the floaty that will not flush in the toilet bowl of crime. You know. I was like, wait, what what did I just say? And I said, okay, cancel that and then I made up something else because I was like, wait a minute, I just called myself anyway a piece of food something like that. Yeah, and that's a and without the H. Who is you really need the H? You really have the age? I really do? Do you want to know something?

It's a bit freaky. And I didn't plan this and only dawned on me yesterday that we're recording this on the sixth of September your time, twenty twenty three, thirty two years to the day that Darkwing Duck premiered. Get out, yep to the da Let's get dangerous. Let's do it, shall we? That's crazy. I didn't not know that. Today, thanks for that. On Disney Channel, Darkling Dawns the Duck Part one and two premiered for the first time, like a movie length premiered and rightly so, and rightly

so. Yeah, thirty two years ago today. There you go, two years ago today. But let's let's just start off. Let's just start off those so Darkwing duck. Right, those two words darkwing duck. What immediately springs to Jim Cummings mind when you hear those words dark wing duck, what do you think of? Oh gosh, great times, fantastic times. You know, it was a golden in my life, that whole. I mean, I had a couple of decades of golden moments in my life throughout the

Disney Afternoon. Uh. And and it started, I think, I want to say, Dark Wings started as a ABC show, No became it started on Disney. It was on the channel or you know, in the in the Disney Afternoon lineup, this is what they used to call it. And and then ABC said because they didn't even own Disney yet or Disney didn't known them, or however that goes, but they said, you know, those are doing really well. Can we have a bunch? So we made a

bunch for Saturday morning? And I remember thinking, that is so cool that we're doing the show. We're loving it, we're having great time, everybody's having a great time. And somebody else noticed it, noticed that this big DV network said can we have some of those? And early around Okay, sure, you know so the answer is always yes when they want more shows. Yeah. So I just remember I read that apparently has started off, and it's sort of some people are saying it is and some people saying it

wasn't. It was meant to be a spinoff of duck Tails. Do you know the truth blind it was it a spinoff of duck Tails or not? Because I had launch paid on there, but I believe tad Stones is coming and said, nah, that wasn't really it was. It was its own idea. But when he first would pitched the idea, it wasn't pitched to you as a spinoff of duck Tails in anyway. No. No, in fact, it wasn't even mentioned. It really wasn't even mentioned. Yeah,

it was you know tad Stone, Tad is readies Dark Wings Dad. I always say tad Stones is Dark Wings father, and Jenny McSwain is is his mother, and uh, you know, the voice director, and so no, I don't know that it was at all. I just think, you know, the only commonality was they were ducks. Yeah, okay, you

know, and they occupied you know, they occupied this name airspace. But say can it wasn't the same as you know where the hu we do in Louie lived yea scrugeously so you know, yeah different, yeah, absolutely, yeah. So I don't think so you're touching on earlier that it's one of your most beloved roles, one of your favorites. I saw an interview recently where you said this is about seven eight years ago that you said it. One of the reasons for that is that you feel like it was the first

character where you were able to create your own voice for it. Because you've been winning, You've done Tigo and things like that and Taz, but this is one of the first roles where you felt like this was you creating something. Yes, no, that's one hundred percent rate. You know I when I first, I mean even in Dumbo Circus when I was lying on the lion, he was a takeoff on Timothy the Mouse from the movie Dumbo, And so by the time Dark Wing rolled around, he was a signature character.

He was there was there were no characters excuse me, there were no dark Wings before MOI and there never will be another one after me. Thank you. I just wanted to get that in anyway. Uh So, uh, yeah, he's my guy. Yeah, and I'm very very proud of that. Yeah, and I love the guy. Did you have any input into the capital Was he already creating, fully fleshed out and established before you were given the role. Well, you know, you you do have input

because with Gosh I'm a notorious ad libber. Not only with the intro. I'm the tear of the flaps in the night Winged Scurgee, you know, but just throughout the show, I would I would throw quick little asides in and and they kept them all and it all went toward, uh, you know, establishing the personality that everybody came to kind of like. And so you know, I mean it wasn't it was it official? No? But was it definite and palpable? Yes, because you're a big fan and it's

very very comic centric this character, isn't it. Yeah? I think so. Well, I've got all the comic books. I've got them here somewhere, but can't let you see them because I don't want to bend the cover. You understand, everybody out there is going, yeah that's true. Yeah, okay, I feel you. They're behind glass. Yeah, they're behind glass. Yeah, hermetically sealed. There is no air in this room,

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classic Disney Afternoons cartoons and in character. We'll keep things off this month with a revisit of an episode of dark Wing Duck. So go ahead and support Jim by becoming a member of the tuned in family today at patreon dot com. Slash Jim Cummings podcast link is in the description of this show. Chris, were you were a dark Wing fan growing up? Yeah? I was. Yeah, I would definitely catch dark Wing. So I grew up in Canada and we didn't have the Disney Channel. Growing up, there was no

Disney Channel in Canada. We just had it on like a free to air station. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was called it was called the Family Channel in Canada. And now they have the Disney Channel in Canada, but that was just a couple of years ago they got it, and so yeah, it was a different schedule and it wasn't as you know, like routine, but definitely anytime dark Wing came on, I was definitely tune in. I just felt like Darkwing was the cool one, wasn't It was like

the cool Disney show. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I have to agree, even if a superhero aspect to it, the super the superheroes and supervillain just made it feel cool when you're a kid and it's an adult god. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well it was like, you know, I was always a big still am comic book, and this was a comic book. It was an animated comic book. To me, I was like, okay,

oh, absolutely full speed ahead. And I think because of so many comic references, with whether it be the names of the characters, all the villains and things like that, when you're watching it, don't really feel like you're watching just a kid's Disney show. You feel like you're watching a show that all ages can enjoy, as opposed to like Tailspin. You know, it's it's got some adult humor in it, but you feel like you're watching

a kids show or you know, Bonkers. You know it's got adult humor in it, but it still feels like a bit of a kid show, where the comic aspect and the dark sort of nature of Dark Ring Duck makes it feel more adult than usual Disney animated show. Yeah, well I agree, I absolutely agree, you know, and I think that was by design.

I think it was you know, I know, the tad Stones and all the great writers that we worked with, they all had that sly sense of humor, you know, and they always you know, it was like the kids in the back of the room. We wanted to get something over

on the teacher, and so I think that's what they were doing. Like you know, uh, Taras Bulba was a character and it was I'm going to forget the name of it, but it was a movie with George Chakiris and gosh Yule Brenner, and that character came from that, I mean, and it was Taras Balba or something like that, and it was this big, giant bad guy. But it was played by Tim Curry and I really really enjoyed. I mean, I have great admiration for him. He's a

a great guy, a great actor. I hope he's feeling good at this point. And you know, it was just I remember they would bring in these people that you couldn't believe, you know, for guest roles, you know, like Carol Channing and Tim Curry and all these people excuse me,

and and it was just a joy. Everybody kind of wanted to. You know, Rita Marino I think was in one that might have been bonkers, but you know, all these incredible actors they just kind of like enjoyed moonlighting coming over and dipping their toe into animation and hanging out in this weird little world of ours, and you know, it was great. And A Dark Wing was a magnet for that because it kind of had an overall appeal.

It wasn't just for I mean, it was well written because it wasn't for first graders, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and then then it's for college kids also at the same time. Now, that was a good trick, and I think that was one of the keys. I think it's one of the cases of the longevity as well, because now kids on Disney, plus everyone like myself who grew up watching it, we can still enjoy

it now as adults not feel like we're watching a corny kids show. And my son, like my son who's five, and my daughter who's just about to turn three, they can watch it and enjoy it for different reasons. You know, it's just it's just funny, being silly, but I'm enjoying the humor. I'm like, ah, I'm pretty sure Jim, we made that lineup because I don't think of what it would have been. Yeah.

Well, every time you think that you're right, just for the record, every time you think that you're right, that was a little too knowing that was a little two inside. Yeah he made that up. Yeah, you know. So, Yeah, it's just back to your point about just dark Wing being like a comic book, you know, kind of feel show. And Jim you mentioned, you know, he would have been one of the

guys sitting in the back of the class. One of the reasons I enjoyed it growing up was just like he had the same kind of like energy to me as like a Deadpool or like a Spider Man, you know how they're so they have the quips and you know, they're little asides, and I think that's what really made me gravitate towards it, because I just loved your you know, I'm now learning you know that they're all made up by you.

But yeah, but that sense of humor kind of in the middle of action is just such a It's so appealing to me and I think many other people too. Oh. Thanks, yeah, yeah, I could remember one.

Gosh, I can't see I can't remember the name of the episode, but it was there was this lady that was going on and on about fashion or something, and Darker was trying to, uh save them from being ripped off by Taurus Bulba or something or you know, you know, bush rude or whoever it was, and uh, it's just going and another thing and another well, thank you for sharing. And and then he just dove through there and and it was just and I've gotten letters and people at the time

they're going, was that written thank you for sharing? Because that was kind of a thing at the day in the in the late eighties, early nineties, thank you for sharing. It was real touchy feely, and everybody got that I was being sarcastic, so that made me thank you for sharing. Shut up, okay, goodbye. You know. I think an element that you bring to a lot of your characters too, like Chris was touching in there with with the humor, is that you'd like to break the fourth wall.

Bonkers did a lot as well. You'd like to address the audience a lot with your humor. I think, yeah, it's true. Yeah, well, you know it draws them in. It's fun for me, it's fun for everybody. And you know, I've always enjoyed doing that, and you can't do it with every character like Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Will will never what wall? They didn't even know there was the first wall? Yeah, you know, much less the fourth wall. So yeah, I appreciate

that, except at the coronation. What's that? Except when Poo's at the coronation. I feel like that breaks in a little bit. Okay, yeah, fair enough, Yeah busted. Yeah did you guys see that? Everybody on YouTube? Okay? Good? Yeah, yeah, I think they're breaking the fourth wall. To breaking that fourth wall also creates this sense of inclusiveness with with the kids watching as well. It feels like you're it's like you're

you're acknowledging that they're watching. It's like I know you're they're watching. Come along for the ride? Yeah, well said, yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's very true because it's it's inclusive. As we say no, and it's gonna be said just like that as well. I'm pretty sure that's how you have to say. It's inclusive. So you're welcome to be included if you include me I'll include you. How's that that's fair? Right?

Exactly right. So let's get to how you became dark Wing, right, So is it similar to what would discuss last week with with leather Head and all in Turtles rolls? Was Was this just something that your agent pitched you because you were already working on Tailspin and Chip and Dale at this point or is it a case of, you know, if Jim wants a role, he's going he's probably going to get it. Or did you still have to go through the same genuine audition process to get dark Wing Duck. No,

I just told them to the hell up and hire me. That's what I thought would happen. Yeah, actually, oh no, wait no, wait I didn't say that. Wait let me let me recalibrate. Yeah, any I was saying. I didn't say anything like that at all. No, So what did what did your first here about? Doc? We had had

it come back? Well, I remember, you know, the audition went out to me and every everybody else in town, and it was They actually, oddly enough, based it a little bit off of a Daffy Duck uh Warner Brothers episode in which he took on the roll of the Scarlet Pimpernel and it was a one off. It was in one one Bugs Bunny short, you know, one seven minute cartoon. But but he he dressed he the

outfit looked like dark Wing, but it was red. You know. He had the big flowing hat and sort of a you know, slightly musketeer ish and it had a little bit of the shadow in it, which was an old I guess forties pulp uh, you know, a pulp fiction character. And so they put it together and they said, well, we can't make it red. We can't you know this and that, and this guy's white and Daffy was black, and so they kind of you know, massaged it

a little bit and came up with that outfit that he's got on. Uh. In fact, I think you can see it right back there. There's a few. I'm never far from a few dark Wing everywhere, dark ways everywhere. I mean, in case he's I feel like someone's watching me anyway. So yeah, they just put that all together, and you know, they they certainly didn't want it to sound you know like at that point, Donald and Daffy Duck were the two famous ducks if you will, you know,

and Donald nobody can understand what the hell he's saying. So we couldn't have that, could we. And then Daffy fluffer and fuck attack, you know, with all the spitting and the this and the that, we can't do that. So I honestly I thought, gosh, I don't think I've ever said this before. Okay, so nobody, everybody cover your ears, because this is stuff that nobody's ever heard before, unless I've said it before.

And and I was thinking that it would be nice to have a little bit of the looniness of Gaffy Daffy Duck in there, but without the spit, and you can understand what the hell he's saying, you know, because that's always a plus when you when you're when you're doing voice over, to

let them actually know what you're saying. And and uh, you know, because Daffy Duck and sort of like this, and dark Wink Duck is sort of like that, and I'm sure there was no similarity in that, maybe a little bit, but I just thought I just thought, well, let's try that, you know, and let's see and you know, and then see it's not just a voice I've always said. You know, people will

say, well, how do I become a voice actor. Now, it's not that you're becoming a voice actor, you're becoming an actor who who uses your voice? You know, it's uh, Jess Harnell said it. Uh when when you're a voice actor, it's a small V, but it's a capital A and uh. And that's that's the key. You know, you're you're you're acting in character, and that's just the voice that they have. And you know, you know, I apparently worked. It definitely worked.

You were just landing so many roles with Disney at that point in time. Can you remember anyone else who auditioned for Dark Wing? Like, because I don't remember with a bonk because you said, Jim Carry, Can you remember anybody notable that went for Dark Wing? Oh? Yeah, gosh, you know, I don't know that I was privy to it. Uh, yeah, I'm pretty sure, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Richard Burton, who else? Tell me? Bruce Willis definitely Bruce, Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Anthony Hopkins was

your Brenner? Your Brenner? Yeah? Oh and Meryl Street really she wouldn't. Yeah, I kicked her ass. Yeah, so there so was it? Was it a different process to Boggers thinks. I know with Boker's he said, I think you're brought back maybe five times. I think five times. So with this one, you auditioned and was it a case of what we found out man? Or did you did you have to come back a few times? How was the duck duck process? Yeah? I want to

say it was like three, two or three times. Yeah, because they didn't know, you know, they were they were going back and forth to weather and not. He would have a certain you know, and I just thought, oh god, I'm not going to do that really, So with the idea of giving him that lisp kind of where they yeah a little bit. But the most important thing with him was attitude. You know. I mean he's he has no superpowers, he's a pretty good detective. He's got

lots of gadgets. So it was more Batman than anything else, you know, Batman with a little shadow in there. I mean, he had the thunder Quack, he had the the you know, all the motorcycle, the you know, the gas gun, suck gass, evil doers. And one of my favorite things was when I don't know if I told you, but I remember when because it went to ABC, it was very, very, very popular, and they went, oh, jeez, can let's put this on on on network on on Saturday, not just you know, five days

a week. And so they put it on there and a couple episodes in I guess ABC called me in and you know, at the at the beginning of a recording session and they go, now, we just want to make sure you are saying suck gas evil doors, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean he's got a gas gun. It's like one of his It's kind of a passive weapon, and that was part of the the idea. You know, you throw you throw a rope and it wraps around them and knocks them down. Well, they're not going to blow up and die,

right, so a gas gun knocks him out. They're not going to be shot in the head. So they were the sort of PC you know, user friendly weaponry, and so the gas gun was a part of it. And they go, okay, so he's saying suck gas evil doers. Yes, that's that's absolutely what he's saying. And they go and then they go quiet, and they go, okay, well, do me a favorite really hit the g on gas because suck ass evil doers just it's not the same, And I went, all right, all right, thank you suck

ass evil, got it, got it? Got it? Ding ding ding ding ding? Yeah, help how it sounds. It's not my fault. Yeah, yeah, I know you have a problem with Geez apparently, so touching back, So you said that was twenty with the idea of given dark wing duck a lisp all the spitting like like Daffy and Donald. What is it about duck characters? Why do they have to give them that that speech impediment? What? What is something about that design duck? What is it

why? I don't know, it's it's not It wasn't my idea and it lasted for ten seconds. Okay, well, no that sucks. Why do you think they gave Daffy and Donald like both ducks the same speeching like, what do you think that was the case? I don't know. I think first of all, ducks don't talk, Brandon, I don't know if you knew that that's that's Yeah, you see now that there's a there's a problem

inherent in the system. But you know, I don't know. I think it's it's partly you know, giving it's part of giving a cartoon character a goofy sounding voice, and it's built into the model. You know, bubba blub bla blah bo. You know, certain characters just have to sound a little little dim or a little too undim or whatever, and you know, you just have to mold it to to to fit. And I just think that that's you know, up until that point, all the all the different

characters had speech impediment. And you know, so I gave him Tigger and said, that's all you get with you having so many lead roles. He had Winnie the Pooh, and you had Dark Wing and you got Bunkers. Was ever a point where everyone else in the Disney community were like, well, Jim's going for it. Why am I bothering? He's going to get it. Anyway, when you're for to this day, no one will audition for anything that I'm if If he Jim's going for it's like, well,

why waste my time? You know he's going to get it? So true? Exactly right, Yeah, it's it's a well known fact. I can't believe you you knew that. Yeah, it's so true. Yeah. Well yeah, I'm by the way, I'm going next year all three powerpuff Girls, right wow? Really? Yeah, no, I just made that, but but it sounds good if we can get that going on. They clarified because that would have been a big headline on comicbook dot com. Okay,

okay, yeah, yeah, all three powerpuff Girls. Yeah, yes, Beware Beware Ted before Dark Wing. Oh gosh, that's a good question. Would he Would he have been aware of your work when creating dcs. I'm just interested to wonder luck with a Do you think he had you when he better? But do you think he had you in mind when he created the dark Green dark character? Well? Do you think he had anyone? You know? I can't I can't think that. I can't flatter myself that much.

But you know, it's very I mean I've known him for a hundred years. You know, all the all the guys over there at Disney, Disney Character voices and Disney TV Animation, you know, Jim Meghan, Mark Zaslov, you know at Wexler. I could go down the list and I'm gonna stop, Toby, I'm gonna stop because if I keep going, I'll leave somebody out and that won't be right. But yeah, I mean we

were all it was interesting. I mean, we were all kind of in our prime, in our thirties or you know, and uh, you know, cable television was exploding. You know, people nowadays think it was there forever. But when I was a little boy, there were four stations, ABC, NBC, CBS and whatever. You know, public television was back then, uhf and that was it. And then all of a sudden, boom, all these cable channels opened up and they needed programming, They really

really needed programming. So Disney started cranking out you know, tail Spend, Dark Wing, you know, Bunkers, just on and on and on, Gummy Bears. So yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, And so you know, I think I was a little bit of it was being at a good place at a good time, ray placed at a ray time whatever the expression. Also right people at the right time as well, you know, because it wasn't just the ideas. They had to have the right people behind the

voice as well, you know, to make it work. Oh yeah, yeah, and Raiders and the Raiders producers, animators. Yeah, no doubt about it. You know, I've read online apparently apparently Darkwing Dark the Show was a last minute replacement for was originally going to be a proposed reboot of the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. But apparently Disney didn't have the rights to the characters. They only had the home video rights. So they went, okay,

scrap that plan. It's something different. That's where the idea for dark Green Duck was actually born. Wow that I didn't know. Yeah, well, Rocky and ballwinkl were there were no Disney, no no, but because Disney owned the rights of the home video the home video, so they just assumed they owned the rights to the characters, but they didn't once they did some research and wait a minute, we own the home video rights for Rocky and Bullwinkle, but not the rights to go and make new episodes of the

of the show. Gee, Ruggy, Okay, well I don't know what to say. Yeah, but we bull a rebbit out of my head. I could do a terrible Bullwinkle for you. Yeah, but I blessed Jude And you're saying you're saying it early about the inspiration for the dark Green character.

Apparently it was also inspired by There was two episodes of Duck Tales and it was called Double O Duck starring launched Pad mcquack as a secret agent, and an episode called them the Mass Mellard with Scrooge McDuck became a mass vigilante superhero wearing a purple uniform and a cape, and they kind of cane the two aliments together. That's sort of another idea of where the dark Wing Duck was. Where Tagg the inspiration for dark Win Duck as well. M Oh

yeah, yeah, definitely the scarlet pimpernel was in there. And I don't know that launch Pad was ever going to be the hero. I mean, I think he's born to be a sidekick. Well, in the original idea, he actually was. So the original premise was going to be called it was going to be called Double Low Duck, where he would be like a James Bond esque hero agent to be launched Pad mcquack, and he was going to be that, but it turns out again due to copyright, they didn't

own the rights to the term double that. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know the product that it was designed for, launch Pad launch Pad was going to be Double Low Duck that was going to be launched Pad mcquack. And then when when that failed, Tad was then tasked with the idea right come up with a new hero, Dark Wing Duck was born and that's where it all happened, and he thought launched. I was still going to include launch Pad, but we'll include him as the sidekick for dark Wing,

and that's duck Wing. Duck was borne. Wow you heard it here, folks. So it just sounds like back in the day, Disney just didn't know what they owned and what they didn't. Yeah. Yeah, well I remember double o Duck. I remember that coming up. Yeah, that did not fly. And Robot Duck was another one, Robot Duck. Okay, yeah, and that was robot not robot Duck. Oh gosh, it was Hamilton's. It was his character, that Robot Duck when he and he had a wheel and he was Gizmo Duck. What's it? Yeah, yeah,

gizmo. Yeah. They had the same problem, I guess. So it was going to be originally called like a robot Duck kind of thing. Okay, that robot Duck. Yeah wow, Okay, there you go. Here. At the fourthing of this SCAT Network, we produced over twenty hours of podcasts each month, covering the greatest shows of the nineties, including The Simpsons, South Park, King of the Hill, Cyfeld Friends, Futurama,

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yeah, yeah, and I thought it was a damn fine name. King Duck absolutely, yeah, you know, anything dark is good. How was he originally pitched to you? So when you're creating the voice, what did they say to you? What did they say they wanted? Then? What

did you bring yourself as well? Well, you know it was it always had a slate batman aspect to it, a slate scarlet peppernel aspect to it, and you know, then they threw into single Dad, you know, which kind of gave him a whole new dimension and uh great, yeah, oh I know, and uh and of course she she eventually you know, Goslin, Uh, Chrissy Kavanaugh got rest her soul and eg Daily took over

the role of the Great eg Daily magnificently. But she was quiver Wing Quack and she you know, had her little bow and arrow with suction cup arrows on it, and it was great and and it was a really cool addition. And she would show up on Dark Wings missions and it was like, oh God, no, I have to protect my daughter and get the bad guy. You know. So it was crazy. So she she was a real interesting curveball. It was kind of brilliant. You know, Okay,

your daughter is going to show up. Wait what I'm fighting crime? No, get home and do your homework. Oh do the dishes too, you know. So it was it was really interesting and I think it added a whole new layer. It was wonderful because a lot of those shows they had that buddy aspect, didn't they Like we touched on Tailspin during our commentary recently, where you know, Blue and Kick Cloud Kicking and things like that, and Mowgli and Blue as well. But others thought was so interesting to have

this this superhero being a single father of a daughter. It was very It was just I don't think it had really been done before I had it. Uh on a Disney show anyway. Yeah, no, no, has it been done since? I can't think of another one? It probably has, but nothing springs to mind. But look, was that was that element to his character? Was that? Were you aware of that when you first went for the role? Was that something they added in later on? Were you

where he was going to be a single father? Well? Yeah, yeah from day one? Yeah, because such an interesting you know, I had two daughters, Yeah, and I my daughter, Olivia is the oldest, and she got called Goslin at school. Really and you would that, yeah, you would think. So I said, come on, is that that patch? Because it's a busy dad. I said, no, it's not you. You're wondering your dad's dark wink duck. Shut up. You're welcome,

you know. I mean, it's like you know, and I can remember, you know, answering the phone, answering the door for Halloween and the little kids were there trick or treat and I put the stuff in there, you know, the candy in there in their little bags there and these I remember these two little boys that were like seven and nine, and they're sitting there looking around the house, and I said, is there anything else I can do for you? Well? Does dark Wink Duck live here for

reels. I said, yes he does, but he's out. He's out now protecting, protecting, you know, the Santa Rosa Valley from uh, you know, bad guys. And he goes and the little guy goes up to his brother goes, I told you, you, stupid booger. I told you he lived here, you know, and I would just bust it up. And we gave him like all the candy and thanks, and I said stay dangerous and then went, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate dark ring. Yeah. Oh man, did you ever dress

up for Halloween as the characters you voiced? Are you a Halloween kind of guy? I am a Halloween kind of guy, but no, No. Peggy and I had the closest. Peggy and I did an amazing It was a wedding of of what skeletons like maybe five or six years ago, remember that. It was awesome. And we put it all over the lawn and we went all out. She went and got all these these sort of purple

uh lights that that kind of day glow and everything. It was a wedding complete with white chairs, people sitting in the audience, Grandpa sitting there sleep and they're all skeletons, and it was awesome. And Jim having that Jim had like a speaker system set up so he would do voices as trick or treaters were coming up, Yes, and he would do like some spooky voices or character voices or whatever. And people got such a kick out of it.

I swear there was a line like halfway around the block. Yeah, yeah, just to come up and get some M and m's from us. They Jim's house. So then it was Jim doing the voice. I don't I don't know. I don't know that some people might have known some somewhere, yeah, yeah, but I mean it was it was not your your your uncle's Halloween house, that's for sure. What are some of you Halloween movies or specials or things like that, because you're if you're a Halloween guy,

I love a good Halloween TV special. Look, do you have anything? And it springs to borrow boy, So do I you know? The original Halloween was interesting? Yeah, you know, Jamie Lee and the gang there. And I'm not a big fan of just slasher splasher, you know, blah blah blah. You know, I really like it's like when it comes to movies like that. I mean, the Exorcist is way up there, and it was all cerebral. It was all you know in your head, and and it wasn't like boo you know, the boogey Man jumps out

of the closet or what have you. But you know, I those the kind of the kind of movies that I like. What about The Nightmare Before Christmas? That's one of my favorites, Like that was a hell of a good movie. I like that movie because you can watch it twice. You can watch it for Halloween and Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, that's double up on it. Or if you like me, I

just watch them up at Christmas Carol whenever I feel like it. So yeah, that's you're a Halloween guy, which means that we can do a tuned in Halloween special in a month or so. Oh, I'm sure I'll do some homework and see see what I've gotten my memory voices. Yes, beware of he chhaking strangers. You mentioned, you mentioned Christine. You mentioned Christine

before Goslin. Let's get back to Goslin. Christine. Well, let's talk about working with Christine because she, you know, for those underwhere She also played like Chucky Kinster and Ruggrass. She was Babe, she was Dexter and Dexter's Labatory, but she was Goslin in the show. So let's talk about your favorite memories of working with Christine. Oh my god, she was. She was just a gem. She was I'm trying to think she might have been from Utah. She was from a small town, small town girl.

She brought all of that. Yeah, she Christine Kavanaugh. She brought all of that sort of wide I had innocence to it, and I think it sparkled through in the character, and I, you know, it was she was just a doll. I was crazy about her, and you know, we were we were all just so lucky to have her. And she was

just a bright, shining light. And she, you know, she would occasionally, you know, sneak something by Jenny, our director, and we thought she was doing it on purpose, and then Jenny Wine here it and she goes, no, that's that's She said, Uh, well, I could tell you one thing. I'm not going to be going after some guy with a maniacal laugh and and I guess the preferred pronunciation is maniacal laugh. But she said maniacal and we all just died, you know. And and

it was it was just perfect. And she had that kind of pure sense of putting it out there. And she she had no she wasn't worried about looking oops, like I mispronounced something. Nope, Nope, it was it was It was her instinct. And you know, I've got an expression instincts, so the best thinks. And and she was just pure and she was And I think that's what really came across in Babe too, you know, it was that sweet heart of hers that came through what character she played?

What's that? Which one? We were just trying to confirm which characters she played? I got her IMDb up here. Where is she from? Utah? Christine? Oh, where is she from? I thought there was like Wyoming she was? Where was she from? Chris is looking up now for us? It just says she wasn't just says American. Yeah. We unfortunately lost her several years ago, which is just a tragedy. Such a young a. Yeah from Layton, Utah, Utah. There you go, there

you go. But yeah, I love that. I love that, you know, she would deliberately mispronounce words because that just made it so much more relatables a kid because it you'd watch her and when she's playing a kid, you felt like you were watching a kid playing the role because the kid would a kid would pronounce words incorrectly, you know, by accident. She just knew to do that. That's that's just It's genius, really, isn't it. Yeah? Right, it wasn't a fox pass. It was you know,

it was it was true it Did anyone else improvise? Or was it? That? Is that mainly your stick? You know? But I guess that is improvising in a different way. It's it's reading words differently. But did anyone else improvise on the shows that you worked, like, particularly Dark Wing Duck? Did anyone else improvise? Was it okay and improvise off? Or was it just let Jim do his thing and we'll work around it.

Yeah? While I was the worst or best depending on your opinion, Uh, you know, and gosh, I don't know, eighty eight percent seventy percent of the time we didn't have everybody there, like for instance, I can I can tell you this. You know, Darkwing Duck and launch Pad mcquack. Yeah, that's the team, right, We did one show at the same time. Wow, you and Terry did a show. Terry and

a we did a show. Out of one hundred and nine I don't even know how many there are the interweb, the interwebs, ninety two episodes I believe of the show. Yeah, is that what it was? Yeah,

Well, we did a show together, that's it. I wonder if, knowing that, because you know, we've discussed bonkers in the past, how you know you were able to sort of create this real life conversation because you were in the same with yourself essentially right where and you've always myself, You're always you know, the conversations when the people in the room always feel more

natural because you can bounce off of the energy. I wonder, knowing that you weren't in the same room of Terry, if you go back and watch the show now, whether you can sense a difference in the chemistry compared to that of a bonker's. I wonder if you can. I'm not sure you don't reckon And no I don't because I have thought that you know, and and you know, I'll occasionally, you know, late night, I'll be sitting there and I go, all right, I don't want to dark Wing,

you know, just because it's on Disney. Plus it's an easy evil and and it's like a nice It's like revisiting an old friend, you know, stop by something, stopping by somebody's house that you haven't seen in a while. And uh, and I get a kick out of it. I do. I mean, it's like, like I say, visiting an old friend. So I don't. It doesn't it. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't. It's not like, oh man, I should have this or should have that, should have you know, because I believe I don't leave

anything in the locker room. I bring it all, you know, I I treat everything. Every single session is the super Bowl for me. I don't know any other way. Yeah, I mean, regardless, Yeah, it just doesn't matter. It has to be that way. So when you go back and watch those old shows, like I said, Late Night you on a dark Queen, does it make you want to pick up the phone and just give Terry a cole? Did you get nostalgic like that for it? Uh? Yeah, Well I haven't seen him in a couple of years,

but it's always great to see him, you know. And you know, we have a pretty good Bond, you know, he and Katie Lee and you know the various people that are you know, God blessed still Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen Dan in a few years. But but yeah, obviously, so he played your psychic So yeah, that's that's incredible to think that. So why was that? Was it just he lived in different cities? Like why was Terry not around to be in

the studio? Yeah, he actually had a radio show and Rancisco, so he couldn't morning I think it was Morning Drive, And it was literally kind of impossible to get him here. You know, We're doing a show at two in the afternoon and he gets off the air at one you know something, you know, you know what I mean, something like that, and it just it was n We just couldn't didn't work. So was it a case of you're a voice actor? Right first and foremost? Was Terry Moore

a radio guy who did some voice acting. That sounds about right. Yeah, that's saying it's a bad thing, but you know, like your your job was voice actor. No, no, no, no, there was certainly nothing bad about it, that's that's for sure. But yeah, that I would buy that. That sounds about right for people who may not know who Terry is. Besides launch Pad for me, I was remember who as the guy who yells at Robin Williams at the beginning of Missus Doubt Fire.

Have you seen Missus Doubtfire? Oh you're sure? Yeah? So in the opening scene, Chris, you've seen Missus Doubt for I'm assuming Chris, yeah, yeah. In the opening scene where Daniel play with Robin Williams is improvising the bird coughing on the cigarette and he's saying we can't have a children's cartoon promoting smoking, blah blah blah, and the director says, Daniel, you know what are you doing? You've got to say what's on the in the

script? Well, that's Terry MC. That's Terry telling off Robin Williams in the opening scene. Now Missus Doubt Fire. M well, someone had to straighten him marked. Did you have moments like that? Though, like he Missus Doubtfight, there he's he's not unimpressed with what the character is doing for a kids show. Did you ever have moments where you went this character wouldn't do this or b should we really be doing this on a kids show?

Did you have a moment where you sort of questioned what was being put out the what you're being what was being asked of you? Well, I told you the sucker ass evil doer line, right, I mean we've covered that, right, so yeah, yeah, okay, no, but this thing between like like trying to sneak in a little naughty weight here and there, but like, you know, promoting smoking, for example, like things like

that, where's the line for you? You know? No, while there was certainly nothing even remotely close to smoking when you have Disney over you, I have every cigarette I've ever smoked in my life. It may yeah, yeah, that's that's how many I've smoked. And you know, because I always knew, and it's not that I'm particularly virtuous. I just thought it stunk. Yeah, I just thought my dad smoke, God rest his soul. And I know, okay, that stinks. Why are you doing that

again? You know, how much fun could it be? It stinks, you know, so very childish, but I'm sure better for my health overall. But what was the question, Sorry, it was just about did you have did you have a moment where you went I'm not so sure about this being in a kid's show, but obviously Disney, Disney as your overseers. I'm pretty sure Disney would have made sure nothing that they got through anyway,

Yeah, yeah, you know. I Uh. In fact, I I have to say there were there were certain certain little shorts that I've done for Disney over the years. And don't tell anybody this, but there were there was a thing called, oh Gosh to Disney blah blah blah. Anyway, it was these two coyotes or whatever, and they there was they were trying to just discover who's who's who dropped this box or who who wasn't And oh, we went back, wait did you drop this early? And no,

and I said, well it ain't mine. It must be Urine. The your story, Yeah, the Urine story. And and and they they they went to production, they went, they went all the way through and it was this close to airing and they go, wait a minute, did you say urine? And I said I might, did you know? And uh And they go, well, you can't say urine. And I said, well, it was kind of like saying yours, but he's a hillbilly.

And they go, okay, well then say yours. And I'm going all right, fine, So I went all right, it ain't mine, it must be yours, and so they won. You know, I tried to get Urine in America. Sorry, Canada, we we all you know, what can I say? Jesus? I want to talk about the villains of Dark Quen Duck because there are a lot of them, A lot of people

have. It's kind of like Ninja Turtles now Ninja Turtles. We discussed last week how they've got all these villains that might appear one or two episodes or people just they hang on to them, but they just they love the villains of Dark Quen duckfot is so memorable. But the key ones were like Mega volt. Let's talk about Mega Voult. Dan Castellanetta, right, oh yeah. Obviously he was working on The Simpsons at the same time, because the

Simpsons started an eighty nine. Yeah I think they had started yeah yeah, yeah, so when I understand they did well with it. Yeah yeah, I think it's still going. Actually I think it sims to maybe so yeah, a little bit. So when Dan comes in, So did you work in the studio with Dan or was he remote as well? No, No, we're there. You know, everybody that lived around Eli, you know, we don't come into the studio. So what tell us about this?

Obviously I'm a huge Simpsons fan. You know, I'll meet up this podcast. So what's it like? I'm a huge dand fan. He's a great guy, funny as hell, you know, and we did Tears Me Together too, and Earth were in gym together too. Uh So he's uh,

you know, I mean he's so gifted, he's Ah. It was interesting because he did Mega Volt was a combination of Gene Wilder and a little bit of God, I can't I can't really put my finger on it, but Charles Nelson Riley maybe, but it was, Oh, that is so like you you know he uh, it was just a takeoff on mostly Gene Wilder, and I thought it was brilliant because he was so frustrated. Like if you saw the producers, the original producers was Zero Mastelle and Jeane Wilder.

You know. He uh, Jean's character needed his blanket and he had to have a blanket, you know, And and Dan kind of brought that urgency, that need neediness to the character and it was really cool as hell. It was funny as hell, and you know, the two personalities played off against each other, so well, you know, and he's he's the man, but the talented that has brought such an energy to these to these Disney shows. Like we were discussing Ninja Turtles last week, could you sense the

difference between making a Ninja Turtle show and these Disney shows? Because Ninja Turtles like that, you know, it was a hit, but you know you're saying bonga and things like that, where this one felt like you were making a show for adults right when you're making Dark when Duck. Yeah, no, I agree, Yeah, it was very much so. You know, in fact, we prided ourselves on that, on being able to entertain mom

and dad and the kids. Yep, you know that that had that was literally in the Bible, you know, so you know, I'm glad it worked. Is that Where is that where the desire to improvise stemmed from wanting to make sure that's or is it just is it just who you are? Yeah? It's just who I am? Yeah, because Dan Dan's very is great improvising as well, isn't it. Oh god, yeah, yeah, he was great and he was on you know the Tasmania show. He was

you know, he played any number of characters in that show. And uh, he's just a karmic genius, you know, and a voice artist, so you know, more power to him. Need to getting hooked up on some seasons gigs. Yeah, yeah, I did a Simpsons. Yeah you did that. You are a horse. I was a horse. That's where we originally, you know, that's where it all started talking about. But also Michael Bell he played quacker Jack and Tino he played bush Root. Already

discussed bush Root when we did that commentary. But you know, you know, Jack Angel and Tim carry already covered. It's just incredible, an incredible roster of talent. Oh god. Yeah. Yeah, Well Michael's a good buddy and I'll see him every now and then it conventions. Yeah and uh and he's still going strong and yeah, very very true. Quacker Jack was one of my favorites. Yeah, because he was going to ask you what were some of your favorite what was some of your favorite villains? Like can

you remember the sides of the villains? Sure? Yeah, I mean well Tim Curry very much, so Taras Bulba, and you know, I have a soft soft spot for Tino and Sanna. You know, he was kind of had a John Candy vibe to him, you know, which is a beautiful guy, and I mean, gosh, bush Root, you know. Uh, And and don't forget I was my worst enemy. Yes, I was Nega Duck. Yeah, so yeah, Nega Duck. You know. It was kind of like dark Wing with a bass amplifier on his on his

voice. I guess at a lot of talks played a bit how you played the two main roles in Bonkers, but you know you were the hero and the villain in dark Wing Duck as well, Yeah, that's the hero. How fun was that a lot of fun? Because I could play well, I always knew what I was going to say as the other guy, and so I could pre pre established what how pissed off I was going to be or how righteous I was going to be, And you know it was great.

You know I knew what was coming because it was coming from me. Did you used to say, is what you did with with Lucky and Bonkers? You would pre record it and then talk over the top. No, actually no, on that one, I didn't. And uh, dark Wing came before, I believe, so yeah, you know, it hadn't even

hadn't even occurred to me to do that. And it's not like they were partners, you know, the way Lucky and Bonkers were, you know they were occasionally you know, Nega Duck was occasionally in there and so and if anybody could tell me which cartoon comic book character Negaduc's color scheme for his uniform was, I think they should send it in and tell us, yes, who where have you seen this color scheme before? In which comic book character?

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reading out that names. It's funny, Chris. I was looking at you when Jim was renee the names, and I'm thinking, when I was putting this list together for him, I like, do I write this that phonetically or do I do I create a challenge for him? Yes, the challenge. It was a challenge and I did it with that I did it without most spectacles. Yeah, you did it great, Probably did not did not help. It's what's funny is the ones I thought you would mess up,

you didn't, and the easy ones some of them you did. I was like, okay, whatever, ye like, who is this Joe Smith Smith? No, that can't be raped, genuine Jed. No one's name Jed. Oh wait, mister Claimpett Sorry yes, yeah, Well, thank you everybody, God bless Yeah, thank you so much for all of your support so far. Now, we've had a lot of questions come through on a social media so what we did with thought of an idea rather than just taggle

a bunch of questions. At the end of this podcast, we're going to do a special Dark Queen Duck specific mailbag podcast because there's so many questions coming through, over two hundred questions coming through, so we have to go through them all and pick out the best ones and I make sure there's no repeats, and we'll be the answering that on the next podcasts Bonus Extra podcast I've tuned in this week, so make sure you look out for that in your

feeds. If you do post a question on the social media before we go, though, Jim, A couple of things I want to touch on. So people did ask about about They wanted your thoughts on the Duck Tails reboot that included Darkwing Duck, which you weren't the voice of right, So what were your thoughts on Did you see it? Did you see dark Queen Duck reappearing on? Well? I wasn't. I wasn't I was. I think it was Greg Mallard. Yeah, you know, people have asked me about

that before. My problem was I couldn't quite the storyline didn't really work for me. I hope no one heard that. Just kidding, I help everyone heard that, But no, it was interesting. You know, it's I don't know how you how you do a reboot that doesn't reboot. It's pretty much that simple. Although I guess that's not really a reboot. It was an homage. It was a I'm not a hundred percent sure a new audience,

Yeah, for a new audience. And you know what's interesting is, you know, I think I might have said this before, h With certain of my characters Darkwing, uh first among them, I improvised so much that I'm not a hundred percent sure that you know, writing for a character that no one has written for except the guy doing it is all that easy, you know, so you know the writer what you do. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, a lot of the writers, they they were

grateful. They were like, oh man, I didn't know I wrote that well, and it was just because I always do everything is written and like I said before, and then I'll just do one as as a lark. And a lot of times they used the lark because it's a little more whimsical. That's in the moment, and you know, and I'm very grateful, you know, I don't I don't make bones about it. I'm not you know, saying I'm Shakespeare, that's for sure. But Christmas, I don't

know. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, there you go. That's right. Yeah. But a lot of people as rumors everywhere online. It's been gone for a long time to have they're getting more and more hated lately. A Dark Green Duck reboot. Apparently you got any news on that? Stay tuned two ohs, I didn't hear any. Yeah that kind of yeah, you know, if it happens, I will be there, I really

hope. Unless they get you know, Joe Smith to do it. Can you imagine they still Dark Quen Duck reboot and didn't include the original dark Quen Duck. I'm pretty sure the hashtag Twitter fanfare would not be impressed. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, public outcry to bring Jim back. That this is the thing, you know, the character has been so beloved for thirty years as one person. Why change it? Why? Why would

you change it? Now? You wouldn't be madness. Yeah. And if you're going said and if you're going to continue the show on, I hope it's not a reimagining, you know what they want to reboot, continue the show on. But the show is now readily available on Disney Plus. Just just continue the show on as it was, don't change it, just keep it going. That's that's what people want. If people are enjoying Dark Quen, that's the point where you think it's worth doing more, then just do

more. Remake it. Yeah, No, I agree with you. I agree with you. Yeah. And we're all still around, We're all we're still here, live and kicking, you know, Katie Lee E. G. Daley, who I'm going to be speaking with in in a few minutes. Terry mcgoverns and ready to kick but let's make it happen. All the people behind that show. You know who you are, we know you're listening.

Make it who you are now. Of course, there's plenty of other things we could cover here with dark En Duck, whether it be the video games, which I know you love talking about, Jim, the comic books as well, we're not gonna be having we haven't got aten time to talk

about those today. We're gonna be doing those on a future show. But the reason we're saving those for a future show, particularly the comics, is we're going to be getting several of the writers and animators from the comics on the show, the artist to talk about the comics themselves as well with Jim, Chris and myself. So it's very very exciting a future episode as well. They've contact us all on Twitter and we're going to make that happen.

It's going to be very exciting. But before we go, one more thing, Chris, you're usually on top of all this, so I'm shimming you already know. Did you know that there was actually a band episode of dark Ring Duck. I did? I did know that, And do you want it? I'll let you take it away to explain what what's going on here? What episode is that? Because it's still actually banned on Disney Plus you're still that's right, Yeah, yep, yep, yep, it is so.

I believe it was in the third season, an episode called Hot Spells. Yeah. Yeah, if if my research is correct, it was taken off the air because it kind of conflicted with Christianity and it featured featured the devil? Is that sent into Haydes? Yeah, yes, so the devil had appeared on a previous episode, but in this one here he gets Goslin to perform dark magic, which was very no, no, apparently right right right right. I can't agree more as her father. And do you remember

anything about that, Jim, Yeah, yeah I do. And and it was very sting at the time when we're recording it, and I was going, oh, okay, well this will play well and you know Amish Town or you know the at the Vatican, uh, and so uh, we'll see what happens here, and you know it was it was. It was a time of innovation and adventure and and skating along the edge, skating on thin ice. I guess and uh, I remember, and I've seen it. Gosh, it's been years. But it looks good. You know,

Satan looked good. Uh nice, nice red tones, had beautiful horns, yeah, Marty Ingles, so right, yeah, and well see I think that's part part of the problem because Marty Ingles was Satan, so you know, God rest his soul. But yeah, I'd forgotten that and it was and the think of it, it's so silly, is that. My thought at the time was that it was so silly that you had to work to take offense at it. You couldn't take it seriously. Yeah, yeah,

you couldn't. Yeah, it's like you can't really really you're taking this offense at this because yeah, and one of the fascinating things to me about like especially about band episodes and things of that nature, is how it's still banned.

And you know, I've seen a few other cartoons on Disney Plus and I'm a big fan of you know, sometimes you see a little disclaimer, you know, like times change, cultures change, you know, especially when we're going back thirty forty years, and I think it's better like for the culture and for an educational purpose, just to like, you know, have that little disclaimer. You know, things have changed, attitudes have changed.

This is how originally was. But we're not necessarily endorsing this anymore. But here see it in his original format, rather than just censoring it and acting like it never existed. That's my person, don't you. Yeah, don't delete history, just acknowledge history is different to what it is now. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree. I think that's a perfect position.

I because it happens when I agree with the book in the Jungle Book has got the disclaimer at the start, or Aladdin's got the disclaimer at the start, which you can't skip over. You have to watch it for like ten seconds or whatever, which is fine. I understand why it's there, but because we did what was it was a book? Because that had some band episodes about that. It was terrorism, wasn't it. Yeah, but they're still available on Disney Plus. But this one here, no, still not

available. Yeah, good and believe it. But if you're a bit of a pirate like myself, you can go on YouTube and source it. Yes, excellent, Yes, well please do in that case. So if you do want to watch Hot Spells the Dark Green Duck Band episode that is available right now on YouTube, you'll I might put them, actually I won't put link might get in trouble, but you can find it. Just just look for it on YouTube. It's out. Go ahead, throw it up.

I don't think anybody's going to care. Maybe we'll do an audio commentary on it for Patriot if it's available. It's available. Alrighty, al right, Well, is there anything else, Chris you want to do? You want to discuss before we let Jim go and dark Wing Duck go. There's one last really short thing and it was just more about a commentary on the fandom of dark Wing Duck and every convention I go to, I swear the fans

of dark Wing has the absolute best cause plays. Like I've seen some of the best costumes, whether it be dark Wing like mixed with Batman, one of my favorites. I saw a dark Wing Mandalorian and I have a picture of that. You know, we can put this stuff in the video. They mentioned it too, and it's so good and they Yeah, dark Wing, by far, of all your characters, they have the best cause plays.

The poo is a lot of what do they call it bounding? Bounding when they just kind of dress in the colors, Yeah, where it's the colors and they not have two little ears. Yeah, but dark Wing, Like, I've seen some super elaborate costumes and every time it's always to me the best. Yeah, dark Wing Alorean was the Mandel you know that was like, are you kidding me? This is great? Yeah, I'm a

picture of it. We can throw it up on Yeah. So if you are a Cause player right there, who's done that sending your pitches, well, we'll get Jim to post on the social media because I'm excited to see these Mandalorian and dark Wing that sounds mood too or anything or just dark Wing and dark Wing any dark Wing duck yeah cause plays. Send it all through. We'll put a big collash together and we'll wack it up on our social media. If you want to be Jim Cummings social media famous, send it

through Gim Cumings Podcasts at gmail dot com. Right. Well, you know, The Road del Dorado was one of my movies. I always liked it and I had these guys coming I played Cortez and the Road del Doorrado and you know, you know, o god, I'm gonna forget the names of the two guys that's that started it, but they it was Tulio and Julio, not tu Leo and Julio. Anyway, it was Kevin Klein and kind

of kind of Kevin Brenner, and these two guys were incredible. They came up and they acted like I was Cortez, you know, because I was the sort of Orson Wells bad guy in that show. And we put it out there and it was a sensation, mini sensation, just like years ago on YouTube. I'm sure it's dead now, but it's fun to be the bad guy, you know, every now and then. So, hey, did dark Wing always have Were you always going to be naked Duck on the

show or was that something that you are still peaceful? No? No, they just said, you know, we want him to sound like dark Wing only if he went to the dark side. Yeah. So when you auditioned for the role, you were auditioning for both essentially. Yeah, well, Naga Duck wasn't there yet. It was Darkwing only. Yeah. Yeah. And then like a year later they said, well let's do the it yeah of of you know, whatever whatever that would be. You know, so he was negga Duck. So there we go. This has been fun,

isn't it. Chris going I feel like dark Ring Duck is the besides, what do I feel like Dark Ring Duck is like the pinnacle for Jim. Don't you think it's the one that everyone that seems to the most right. Yeah, this definitely created the most buzz on social media. So don't forget, guys, We've got plenty more Dark Ring Duck episodes of the podcast coming up. And also don't forget you can't support the show on Patreon to get

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So far, we've done Duck, Wing, Dark Bonkers, and tail Spin, and I'm hoping the next one we're going to be the patrons get the vote. It's going to be goof Trips. I'm looking forward to going back and revisiting goof Troop as well Troupe. Yeah, make sure goof Troop. I really want to hear some more Pete please. I wanted to. Will dare you go? And if you want to get in touch, like I

said, contact us Jim Cummings Podcast at gmail dot com. Thank you all again for listening, Absolute Champions, Thank you, Chris for joining us once again. Thank you, thank you, thank you Jim And of course one more final question, does Duck Win Duck have any final words for all those amazing listeners out there. Yes, let's get toterous, but do it safely