What does it take to transform systems?

Zig Ziglar once said, “If you aim at nothing, you will hit it every time.” To achieve results, it is necessary to have a clear, measurable, and defined targets. Even though different social impact organizations might have different approaches to the work, it is important to be aligned in vision. For example, how does one define systems transformation and economic mobility? How can it be defined in a way that is scalable and sustainable but also meaningful for those at the center of that work?

This episode features Bill Crim, President and CEO of the Promise Partnership/United Way of Salt Lake, and Susan Dawson, President and Executive Director of the E3 Alliance.

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