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To The Batpoles! Batman 1966

Like many who grew up in the '60s and '70s (and perhaps even '80s and later), Tim and Paul had the course of their lives changed by the 1966 Batman TV show, from the types of play they did growing up to their present-day interests. In this series, they discuss the show's allure and its failures, the arc of the show from satire to sitcom, its influences (the '40s serials and the comic books themselves) and the things it, in turn, influenced. SUPPORT "To the Batpoles!" and DeconstructingComics.com via Patreon!
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#093 The Tale of “The Cat’s Tale”

As we saw a few episodes back , in 1965 Peggy Shaw turned in a script called Fashions in Crime , based on the 1948 comics story of the same name, and beset by script elements that would work in a comic but would be tough to film. Shaw's script was apparently handed to writer Stephen Kandel to rework. The resulting 1966 work, The Cat's Tale , solves many of the problems of Shaw's script, in part by totally abandoning it halfway through. Still, it ultimately wasn't used. In this episode, Tim &...

Sep 13, 20181 hr 54 min

#092 BATMANIA pt 2: Is nothing impossible?

The appearance of Biljo White 's fanzine BATMANIA was well timed. Not only did it contain coverage of, and fan reaction to, the New Look Batman of the comics, but also covered the mid-sixties resurgence of the 1940s Batman serials , and meteoric rise and fall of the '66 TV show . While some Batmanians accepted that Hollywood was never going to give them a better filmed Batman than this, others railed against the show "making fun of" the Dynamic Duo , and placed much of the blame squarely on Lore...

Aug 30, 20181 hr 31 min

#091 BATMANIA pt 1: Comics Fans Connect

BATMANIA was a well-made fanzine that was started by Columbia, MO, fireman Biljo White in 1964, concurrent with the introduction of New Look Batman by DC . Reading it revealed so many interesting things about the Batman fandom of the sixties that we can't cram it all into one episode! So this time, in part one of our examination of BATMANIA, we (gasp!) set the TV show aside and focus on explaining just what was in this publication, who the now-famous (among comics fans) names were that appeared ...

Aug 16, 20181 hr 43 min

#090 Surf’s Up, Joker’s Under, and Al’s On!

Surf's Up, Joker's Under is perhaps the most polarizing episode of Batman . Some call it their favorite of season three, or even of the whole series, while Joel Eisner has called it "by far, one of the worst Joker episodes," and even '66 Joker himself Cesar Romero didn't like it. Why is this episode so divisive? Why do the villains in season three keep thinking that taking over one small segment of society (surfing, boxing, flower children) will lead to world domination, without ever explaining ...

Aug 02, 20181 hr 48 min

#089 “Fashions in Crime”: Hard-Boiled Batman '66

In late in 1965, writer Peggy Shaw (a.k.a. Peggy O'Shea ) submitted a Batman script called Fashions in Crime . It was based on a story of the same title from Batman 47 (1948), but naturally much expanded, and it shows signs that Shaw must have been reading Lorenzo Semple Jr. 's early Batman scripts (e.g. Hi Diddle Riddle and The Joker Goes to School ). While parts of the script fit the tone of Batman '66 , others would have been better suited to a Mickey Spillane novel. In this episode, Tim and ...

Jul 19, 20181 hr 41 min

#088 Holy hyperbole! It's Burt Ward's book!

Burt Ward 's 1995 memoir Boy Wonder: My Life in Tights , while it does give us some insight into what it was like to go from nothing to superfame to typecast purgatory, is indisuputabily full of inaccuracies and hyperbole -- not to mention much more (in terms of both quantity and cringe-inducing detail) about his sexual conquests and misadventures than there is material of use to Batman '66 scholars. Why? Is this what the majority of fans want? Is this simply to be expected from a Hollywood memo...

Jul 05, 20181 hr 46 minEp. 88

#087 An Eggsasperating Eggsercise

The season three episodes The Ogg and I and How to Hatch a Dinosaur are a two-parter in which the parts have virtually no common story elements, only the same villains: Egghead , and Olga, Queen of the Cossacks . Both actors, Vincent Price and Anne Baxter , do a great job but ultimately aren't given much to work with. In this episode, we discuss the original arrangement of the three Egghead/Olga episodes; the theme of eating that runs through both of these; the disappointing characterizations of...

Jun 21, 20181 hr 22 min

#086 “Louie, The Lilac”: Please Omit Important Scenes

Louie, The Lilac is a surprising episode for how un-Uncle Milty-like Milton Berle 's performance is. It's also uneven, with some nice camera shots, but also many poorly-presented plot points — and some that aren't presented at all! We do get a few scenes of Gotham City's flower children — and just what is the show's take on that movement? How much social commentary might there be hiding among the lilacs? In this episode we compare this season three Batman episode to its ancestor, Dwight Taylor '...

Jun 07, 20181 hr 31 min

#085 "Batman '89" Turns our Heads

The 1989 Batman movie was the result of a decade of pitching, rewriting, and personnel changes. It made a Batcave full of money, but is it a good Batman film? Tim and Paul revisit Tim Burton 's first try at Batman, starring Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton , after not watching it since it was first run in theaters. Does it look any different now? Does it look any better than it did? How were the film and its development affected by the Adam West iteration of live-action Batman? PLUS: The Piano ...

May 24, 20181 hr 40 minEp. 85

#084 Pies at the Penguin’s Nest; Goofs to which Semple Fessed (w/ Ben Bentley!)

In 1966, after being the writer and script editor who got the '66 series off the ground, Lorenzo Semple Jr. yielded his chair to Charles Hoffman . What would a look at the draft of a season two Semple script reveal about how Hoffman edited Semple? That was the question Ben Bentley , a moderator of the '66 Batman Message Board ( bow like Ewoks , everybody!), wondered, so when Tim was asking for suggestions of which Bat-scripts to scan in Laramie , Ben suggested The Penguin's Nest . In this episod...

May 10, 20182 hr 21 min

#083 Fitting Batman '66 into "The Caped Crusade"

The debut of Batman '66 caused a backlash among Batman nerds, who subsequently demanded Batman comics that reverted to the dark, sullen loner version of the character. But why did the nerds (and Bob Kane himself!) expect a version of Batman who really hadn't been seen since Robin came on the scene in 1940? While Batman as played by Adam West is funny in spite of himself, does this mean the show was saying heroism itself was ridiculous? In this episode, Tim and Paul examine these questions and mo...

Apr 26, 20181 hr 53 min

#082 Buono, How We Love Ya

Why on earth does " The Unkindest Tut of All " feature a King Tut claiming to have precognitive abilities? Could it be because Stanley Ralph Ross wanted to use a certain jokey title for the episode? Why is Batgirl such an afterthought here? In this episode, we take a look at this season three episode alongside Ross' ten-page treatment for the story (originally titled " Swami, How I Love Ya "), which gives us some insight into the thought process behind this somewhat puzzling (but also amusing) b...

Apr 12, 20181 hr 38 min

#081 Donna Loren takes us to School

In 1965, Lorenzo Semple Jr. wrote the first scripts for the Batman series. Any Bat-fan knows that the Hi Diddle Riddle and Fine Feathered Finks arcs were the first to be written and first to be broadcast. What many of us didn't know was that The Joker Goes to School was also part of that set, received by Howie Horwitz just 20 days after Finks . In this episode, Tim and Paul look over that first draft for more hints to decisions made behind the scenes. Starring in that arc as Susie the Cheerleade...

Mar 29, 20182 hr 1 min

#080 The ’66 Batman comic strip: Having it both ways

We're back! In the thick of the 1966 Batman boom, Ledger Syndicate and DC debuted a new Batman comic strip. Written by Whitney Ellsworth and drawn by Sheldon Moldoff (and, in turn, by Carmine Infantino and Joe Giella ), the early strips seem to want to simultaneously imitate the 66 TV show, and differentiate itself from it. In this episode, we talk about IDW 's collection of the early strips in Batman with Robin: The Silver Age Newspaper Comics Volume 1 (1966-1967) , including the schizophrenic ...

Mar 15, 20181 hr 30 min

Programming update - Our return is days away!

TO THE BATPOLES! returns this Thursday, March 15, with our long-promised discussion of the 1966 Batman comic strip! Next up, a look at the draft script for THE JOKER GOES TO SCHOOL! Still time to look it over and give your comments before we record that episode -- follow the links below! "The Joker Goes to School" PDF script "The Joker Goes to School" thread on the '66 Batman message board...

Mar 11, 20181 min

#079 There’s no business like horse business

In the first two-parter of season three, Penguin and Lola Lasagne horse around with the Wayne Foundation 's charity horse race. Before getting in the saddle, Tim and Paul first look at some background on season three: shooting order of episodes, the reasons for multi-part season three stories, etc. The Sport of Penguins and A Horse of Another Color are a rather strange pair of episodes. In spite of having two whole episodes, the producers still skip important scenes, as was typical of the one-pa...

Jan 04, 20181 hr 31 min

#078 "Pop Goes the Joker" script: The Batpole signs aren’t missing, and the monkey is

At first glance, Stanford Sherman 's draft script of Pop Goes the Joker doesn't seem to vary much from the final. A few minor oversights of Sherman's were fixed (Oh, there are signs on the Batpoles?), and there were the usual cuts to lines to keep within the allotted time. But look a little deeper, and there are places where decisions by director George Waggner hurt or helped the arc, some interesting removed bits that we would've liked to see (and a stage direction we're glad wasn't taken liter...

Dec 21, 20171 hr 42 min

#077 Stanley Ralph Ross: Love 'im, Hate 'im

Bat-fans with any awareness of which writer wrote which Bat-script have long had a love-hate relationship with Stanley Ralph Ross , one of the most prolific of the show's scribes. In season one, he co-wrote one of the most acclaimed arcs of the series, "The Purrfect Crime"/"Better Luck Next Time" . On the other hand, he's also responsible for such disasters as the Archer story, and played a large role in the show's shift from Semplian play-it-straight humor to gags that would have been at home o...

Dec 07, 20171 hr 40 min

#076 A “Wail” of a time with Siren and High C!

When you want analysis of Joan Collins ' appearance as the Siren , there's only one man to call: High C ! He's a mainstay of the all-seeing, all-knowing 66 Batman message board , and has made "The Wail of the Siren" a focus of much research. In this episode, we have him on the show to discuss the various versions of the script, at least one scene that was filmed and not used, the provenance of the Batgirl theme lyrics (which made their facepalm-inducing debut in this episode), what Collins and A...

Nov 30, 20171 hr 32 min

#075 Reading Ross’ Draft Script “That Darned Catwoman”

It's time to dig into another draft script, and another by Stanley Ralph Ross : That Darned Catwoman ! We find many things that were left out of the broadcast version—some to our regret, others to our relief! In place of Pussycat , we have Poison Ivy . Is this the Ivy of the comics? Why might the character have been changed to Pussycat? We additionally see how Ross' attempts at cinematic set-pieces, and to keep promises made in the season two promo to display the new bat-vehicles, were foiled by...

Nov 16, 20171 hr 38 min

#074 "Batman vs. Two-Face"

At last, Batman '66 faces Two-Face ! Adam West 's final turn as Batman pits him against his classic-TV contemporary, William Shatner , in the animated release Batman vs. Two-Face ! Producer James Tucker has said that last year's Return of the Caped Crusaders imitated the feel of seasons 2 and 3 of the original TV show, while this one has a season-one tone... but Tim and Paul beg to differ. The film again prompts us to wonder: would Two-Face have worked as a '66 villain? Why did they choose this ...

Nov 02, 20172 hr

#073 Frank Gorshin returns - Don’t blink or you’ll miss him!

Frank Gorshin returns for one more round as the Riddler . Is he as good as ever, or down for the count? Does Joan Collins ' appearance as Siren steal Gorshin's screen time? Is Riddler's alias Mushi Nebuchadnezzar meant as a Muhammad Ali reference? Is Batgirl way smarter than the Dynamic Duo , or is she just written that way? In our Camping Trip, Paul notes how the brisk pace of season three episodes has abbreviated the camp moments as well. Also, in the Bat Research Lab, we look at a late-'70s t...

Oct 19, 20171 hr 58 min

#072 Archer, first draft: Why the Arrow Flew Crooked

It's time to dig into another script: Stanley Ralph Ross 's first draft of Shoot a Crooked Arrow/Walk the Straight and Narrow (take a look at the script here !). Most bat-fans agree, this is a less-than-satisfying arc for a number of reasons, from the casting of the villain to some seemingly nonsensical plotting late in part one. Reading the script helps us understand what was supposed to happen there: Why did Batman say he was going to cut open the net that he and Robin were trapped in, and the...

Oct 05, 20172 hr 15 min

#071 Batman ’49: So bad, it….. might not be bad?

In 1949, six years after the wartime Batman serial, Columbia Pictures tried again with New Adventures of Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder , with a completely new cast and somewhat changed bat-tableau. Typical of that era's serials, the production values are cheap, the script is full of illogical behavior and red-herring "clues", and the acting is something well short of Olivier . But it's instructive in how 1940s entertainment was made for an audience of nine-year-olds with no access to a "rewind...

Sep 21, 20172 hr 25 min

#070 Batgirl comes to Gotham, Tim goes to Laramie

It's Batgirl ! She's in Gotham City , and she's here to save the Batman TV show! (Did it work? Spoiler alert: Not so much.) We look at the process that brought the Barbara Gordon iteration of Batgirl to the comics and to the screen, and give our impressions of the unbroadcast pilot and the first Season Three episode, Enter Batgirl, Exit Penguin ! Then, Tim at last describes his visit to the American Heritage Center at the University of Wyoming in Laramie (see photos below), including what's invo...

Sep 07, 20172 hr 12 min

#069 Remembering Adam West: Our Lives With Batman

In the wake of Adam West 's not-so-recent passing, we felt compelled to do a "thanks for the memories, Adam" episode. But, well, every episode functions as that, so this time, we present the memories of many other bat-fans who grew up watching Adam & co. in syndication (and, in two cases, on Wednesday and Thursday nights in the '60s!). Not coincidentally, our guests are now working in comics themselves.... With one exception: our mom, Joann ! Tim interviewed her while visiting home last mont...

Aug 31, 20172 hr 4 min

#068 Season Two vs. Season One: Was the slide inevitable?

This time we convene in the place where the batmania started (for us): Centerville, Iowa ! This is the town where we lived when we first fell in love with the show. We happen to be here just as we’ve finished watching season two, and we take the opportunity to compare the first two seasons. (Few would argue that there wasn’t a dropoff in quality as the series progressed, notably in the writing and the type of humor presented...or, does it just seem that way because the Lorenzo Semple take on the...

Aug 17, 20171 hr 29 min

#067 “Ice Spy”: Frozen turkey

Though it's not the fault of Eli Wallach , his turn as Mr. Freeze ends the second season on a weak note. Of course, there are a few strong points, such as Batman 's phone chat with Bruce Wayne , and yet another perfect Gotham City Police slogan from Commissioner Gordon . We discuss how Wallach ended up in the role, the reasons this arc doesn't pass the English Major test (including the reference to Rabelais ) , the over-dependence on stock footage, Robin 's difficulties this time around, and mor...

Aug 03, 20171 hr 33 min

#066 This Joker Really Pops!

If you thought our Black Widow episode was a total camping trip, our take on season two’s final Joker appearance may be even more so! Intentionally or not, Caesar Romero ’s take this time has plenty of gay overtones. At the same time, the Joker is somehow more emotional and human this time. But has he become less intelligent? But the arc’s stated subject is pop art, and its opinion is: it sucks. But Stanford Sherman ’s don’t-know-don’t-care attitude about pop art (and sniggering at critics’ rece...

Jul 20, 20171 hr 46 min
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