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The Story Behind Julius Jones Clip

Sep 28, 20219 min
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In this clip Tamika and Mysonne had Julius best friend Jimmy Lawson, ordained minister, and social advocate Jones Davis and activist and basketball player Irv Roland stopped by to speak on the actions they are making to get justice for Julius Jones.

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That's Jimmy c C or how you're doing today. We all, well, thank you all so much for having us. I appreciate you having us. Thank you all, man, Thank you man. You know we you know, unfortunately under these circumstances, you know,

we have to have you on the show. You know, it's it's definitely not the best we went that someone has to fight for their life, you know, in the in the society where this justice system, in justice system frequently makes mistakes, you know, So you know, it's sad that we have to have this conversation, but it's definitely needed. We want to utilize our platform to do whatever we can to save this man's life. So, Jimmy, you know you've been here since the beginning. You know this is

your best friend. Could you give us like a play by playoffs from the beginning to you know, some what to now, like what's what's how this happened? What's going on and just give us up to speak. Yeah, sure, man. First of all, I appreciate your having is on this amazing show. Man. We greatly appreciate it. Julias Jones is a gentleman from Oklahoma City. We were from North Side, Okay, see and uh, me and Julia has been best friends

since the sixth grade. A little about who he is, so you know, he's from an amazing family with a two parent home. What made it special for him and I We were one of the only two families that had both our moms and dads in the household. That's important as I get along with the story, Uh, most of the percentage of Oklahoma City grew up with either

grandparents or single parent homes. The high school we went to was note percent African American souls as a black school on the side of town that was predominantly black. That's key. That's key. And uh, because I wanted to tell you a little bit about Julius the man and who he was as a young man coming through high school. So his mental capacity, Judas was one of these special

dudes where he had this unique mental ability. What I mean by that, he was one of the first of two African American mayorals to graduate the top ten per cent of our class in high school. I was the other one. So we were we were lucky, uh to

be able to garners our academic side. And then we were both were basketball players as well, so that was a unique dynamic, dynamic because I'm building this feature of how much character, Julius asked, His foundation is background, his values, his work at it right, and kind of where we are now. So coming out of high school, he is a full academic scholarship recipient at the University of Oklahoma. In the back in the nineties, if you don't know

about everybody knows oh you football? Right, So back in the nineties, the demographies of Oh You was almost ninety fi per sein white. Only African American people on campus was football and basketball players. Julius Jones was one of the first to get an engineering a major scholarship, So he was breaking the mold right for something that wasn't even being done at the time. So it kind of shows you the character and the medical passages this brother had.

So it goes to OU, I go off to Grandma State University, play college ball down there were reconnected in and he noticed I noticed that he started hanging around a dude. We went to high school by the name of Christopher Jordan's we called the west Side. Now west Side was the exact opposite of me and Julius. He comes from a different background, raised boas groundball, want to

be game banger. So really, me, Julius west Side, I really didn't have nothing to come besides basketball, so I better to be kind of odd that west Side and Julie started hanging around a little bit. Um. I didn't think too much of it because we were again playing ball into some of the Rex centers and things like that.

So as we got long into the summer of nine on July twenty, right, I'm sitting at home watching the news and come across the news that this white gentleman by the name of Paul Howell gets murdered and mun Oklahoma. I want to build a pixel real quick, a little bit about what Edmund, Oklahoma looked like, which is the suburb of Oklahoma City. Back then, it was more predominantly white. So the mantra in that particular city was a white

guy gets killed. Oh, it's probably gotta be a black guy who did it, right, That was the mantra back then. So bat media was going crazy, We're looking for a black suspect, even though the fact wasn't even really point to a black person. It was because not a murder in him, and it's got to be a black suspect. Right. So so things went down and a few days later,

Christopher Jordan's gets apprehended. And then you know how the system is, right, when the first one gets to talk, some crazy stuff starts to happen, right, So they get to Christopher Jordan's first, you start squilling our distric attorney in town about Macy brought off the bast city, whoever is guilty for this death penalty rough off the bat. So I think what happened was, you know, west Side got apprehended, he got scared, and he said, uh uh,

I was driving Julius show. So that's how Julius Jones kind of got tied into this particular case, right, No relations out of the scene, nothing like that, no evidence. So it was really west Side that got scared tired into it. And then while now we're sitting that trial, right, and they are suited for the death pilty for Julius west Side corroborating the story. We had a couple of informants that also played a major role into the case that we didn't even know what was part of the

ball game until we're sitting that trial. So you got a guy by the name of Ladelle King and Kerbin Lotti. These two in particular individuals had some other pending cases on their own that we didn't know as a family that was playing a tree with the factor about them being an informant. So all these side deals was going on behind the curtains and we didn't even know. We didn't even know. So one major point that changed the diamond of the case before we were the trials that

our original trial attorney passed away. You had a heart attack, So a couple of months before trial, boom, he's gone. We spent some money, so our last resource was to get a public defender. Right, so we go to trial. These two particular public defenders. Guess what, It's their first ever death road case, no experience. One was straight out of law school. Right. So now we've got the highest profile case in Oklahoma County and probably twenty years, and

we have rookies as our as our defense. Uh. That was that was strange and unique. Right, and de vibe in the courtroom was you got an all white jury at the time, right white sells rights prosecuted. Everybody looked different than us. Uh. That was my first time being exposed to the system. You read about it, you saw it on TV, But when you're sitting in it, you're like, hey, this is uh, this is not like TV, right, this

is this is totally different. This is like really at the moment where they're gonna decide that they're gonna try to put my bester into death, and he wasn't even tied to the case. So they wasn't even tied to the case. Yeah, you know, all the all the build up for how they were trying to tie Julius into it was miraculous within itself. We were very confused of how we even got to that point because their preparation was really all about west Side, right, trying to corroborate Julius.

So we were like, uh so west Side of all these details and stuff, don't you think west Side really has something to do with it? Right? And now Julius So that was kind of strange. So the proceedings starting court, our public defender on our time when we had to make our defense, doesn't impossible, mindful. Bob Mason, the county district attorney, spent two or three days providing why Julius was guilty. So now we final out had I chanced to make our presentation, guess what this guy does. He

stands up and says, uh, we rest our case. We're like, we're like, wait a minute, no no evidence. You didn't call judas to the standing. They called me the family. You didn't even provide pictures about what the shooter looked like by Paul House sister, you didn't even you didn't even do that. So we were like, you know how you take a little air balloon, you live the area.

That's what it felt like in the court, like we were watching live and direct right this system in our defense, put on no defense, and then there are about to make a decision to try to put my best friend to death.

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