SYSTEMIC RACISM

we got to do. So what we're talking about. You had the time that man, you had. You know, you had the Internet going a little crazy because and I'm not hear it all the time. I post on my page about things, and you know you post about let's say, yesterday,

Um I posted or I didn't even post. I just seen yesterday that they attempted to hang him in like some white some white people was in They were I think they were on the camping trip or something, and they approached some black dude and it was attempting to hang him and some people called them and it's like hey stop that stop that They got it on camera and everything, and you'll post something like that and people would say, oh, why you don't post about the violence

that's happening in black on black crimes that's going on, you know, or your post I posted today? You know, there was a video I don't know where how how it created, I mean, what we created the situation, but obviously there was some type of um disturbance inside. I think it was a restaurant or something with a white white man, a white woman her man, I guess, or somebody was with her, and I guess she was having

some is was with some black people. So one of the black ladies that she was having an issue would look like she tried to grab all hit her and the guy that was with her ted off from started punching on like she was to do uppercutting. And a black dude came out and he he toys asks up,

he let him up, you know. And then you have people say, you know, yeah, you'll show that, but why you don't talk about the black on black crime or why you don't talk about the people that killed somebody in the wrong and we and and it's so it's so annoying to me, right and they and they don't

realize the correlation to all of these things. So there's so many people that make it seem like, you know, black people and in the communities, they just negative, they just violent, These people just shooting each other because it's just hid of y'all. You know, these people were just terrible, They most evil, the most you know, demonized savages people

in the world. You know. And I've seen you make a post about how systematic racism causes is the cause for the violence of the black music, and you know, and there's always people that, oh, you don't want to be healthy, accountable, people just want to act like there's nothing going on. Black people need to pull yourself by the bootstraps and stop making excuses. And you can't blame the white man everything. And I hear this bullshit over over thousands, thousands towns, And you know, I'm so glad

that you posted that. So it gave us an opportunity to have a conversation and delve deep into what systematic and systemic racism is and how it really plays the part you're talking, you know, you know, you know, I heard about obviously a lot of the shootings that happened over the weekend I was hearing about it. You know,

as we do, we get reports. Unfortunately add things are happening from you know, I'm on you and I both on one group in New York which is made up of all the major anti violence groups and UM and Park Park Jayton, We're gonna come right to your m But all the major anti violence groups that are in New York City are on a thread and we're constantly back and forth. And you know, and I really am more of a bystander, just kind of listening and and

figuring out how I can be helpful and UM. So you unfortunately get to hear this happened at this time, like it's in real time. You find out about things that's going on. So and of course, even though it's a group in New York, you share relationships and partnership and family with people from all around the country, and so you hear about incidents that are happening even before the general public knows about, you know, different shootings. And

so I'm staring a lot about kids being killed. And I mentioned in the post that I wrote last night that for the over the last twenty five years of my life, I have UM unfortunately helped to bury a lot of kids, um, you know a lot of kids, you know, and and I guess the one case that is the most significant to me, not that any child, like I guess all of them are significant, but the one that I really literally helped with everything and getting him a casket that was um fit for his side.

He was too small for the other caskets, he was too small for a big too big for a baby casket, but too small for any of the other caskets, and so um we had to have a special casket board in And it was for young Christopher Lloyd Morgan UM and his parents Lloyd and Um. And it whether or not they don't even need to be given out his

parents name. The bottom line is that that particular service, that funeral, it really mice tore like something into my soul to watch these people, this family, I mean, I guess Cheyenne doesn't doesn't mind me talking about her because she's told her story a million times, But to watch her bury her baby was so incredibly painful for me. I have never been able to erase the image of that baby in that casket. I've never been able to

get that out of my mind. It was so painful, and to watch her family go through the turmoil, and she had another child and other you know, her mom and all of what they suffered. And so I know all too well that what happens, you know, to a family when a child dis killed, is like no other pain in the world. So this is not about excusing those individuals responsible for killing Um Young. In fact, when I think about it, um we went to court, we actually need to court, then into court and sat with

her while she had to face her children's murderers. And so I don't think that anyone is saying I know for sure that no one that I know that's in the anti violence world, people doing this work for many years.

No one is saying that it's acceptable, that there is a there's an excuse that can be made for it, that it is uh, you know, it's it's it's okay, or that anyone who challenges these individuals is wrong, or that we are going to challenge their parents for saying that they want to see um that that these that the individuals that are responsible for killing their kids are health responsible. I don't think anyone is saying that I know, I'm not I'm not that's not that's not the point.

But what we know, or at least what I know, is that this particular type of of of activity or or or horrific action really only takes place in certain communities. So I'm really trying to go slow with this so we can really break it down because unpack. It's a lot to unpack, and it's hard when you move fastward because people be like, I know, I do not miss it. Okay, we're gonna take We're gonna take our time to wet time. We got time. So we're gonna break it down slow. Okay.

So it only happens in certain communities. So when I go to hey, Derek, my brother, I love you. It's not like when I go to the black community in Beverly Hills, or in Buckhead, or in on Strivers Road or those Strivers Row in Manhattan is very close to you know, Edge Home and other places. But I'm just saying,

you get the point. I go into those places and I bring those places because black people live in Beverly Hills, black ship live in um and and what's the other place in u uh no, no, no, But in the other place I said, in Buckhead, black people live in Buckhead. The black people live in um in uh Strivers Row in Manhattan, and Harlem, in Edgewater, New Jersey. Puts give us some other places where black people live in these rich areas. These things don't happen there. Now, what some

people will try to have us believe, Mice. I want to say, is that kids who lives in the Bronx, Yeah, it is different somehow mechanically like their makeup from the child who grew up in Edgewater. Check that. I think all these children are born the same. But then something happens. So now you want to pick it up because I don't want to. Can. I know you you you use teaching, use teaching. So there there is, there is, and this is what my whole conversation is. There is a direct correlization.

And I made up a word, my fault, correlization. It's correlation. There's a direct correlation to poverty en violence. You know, there is a direct correlation. They are they are connected at the hip. And that's why when you say that there, when you talk about that, black people are you know, are prevalent in out that where there is not poverty, there is not violence that follows. So that shows that we're but it's not just that black people are just negative,

violent people. There is something that is causing violence. And when we talk about poverty, poverty in our communities is a direct effect of systemic racist going through fast fact. Okay, let's tell me the problems. Some people are not even clear how the poverty does even have. Let me let me okay, let me break down to the poverty creates the violence. Because look, you're in a community, right, you wake up hungry, Right, that's that's the first thing. You

wake up hungry. That causes trauma, and the trauma eventually leads to mental health issues. Right. A lot of these people who are committing violence are doing two things. They're trying to eat and they're dealing with mental health issues. So you go outside after you're hungry. Right, you don't have much money. The only vision of success that you have in your community is the drug dealer. Right, the

drug dealer comes outside. He has the nice clothes you want, he has to the car you want, he got the girl you want, he got everything. You woke up hungry because the food stamps that they said and then didn't feed everybody, because you got about six and seven brothers and sisters, you know, and there's not you you want. This is this is your situation you was born into as a young boy. You didn't you didn't just didn't do your job. You came into. You were born to

a project household where it's not much going on. It's three bedrooms and it's about ten or fifteen y'all you're sleeping on and you wake up, you frustrated, your little sister and Pete in the bed. There's pistons in the mattress. You hunt all these things you dealer when you come outside, and the drug dealer got the brand new Jordan's you want, and the girl you could try to talk about something. My acutity is you ain't. It's no doctor to the next door to you, ain't no lawyer that next door

to you. The only vision of success or the person that you see closest to the proximity of success is this drug. Because where did the doctors go and the lawyer? The doctors and the lawyers don't went to Beverly Hills. They they didn't. They didn't stay here and tell you how to be a doctor. And the lawyer they didn't give you no, no, no, no, you know, no blueprint. They didn't give you anything possible, They didn't let you know anything that you was able to do was absolutely

no nothing. So what happens is now you was left with the drug deal you know, and he don't know. And it's not just the drug dealer, because the drug dealer is there. Yes, that is true, and you've talked about that. So I think that's very personal for you that the drug dealer became someone that you saw and sort of idolized, if you will. Right, But David John says, there was no cliff notes. They was just it was nothing.

It was just literally and and and someone else says, here we got to talk to our Our father was Nate Jones, who I love much, said, and she said, you gotta sell some of them stamps because the food stamps by the day. But so you gotta sell some of them stamps, right, but talk about it, he said. The fathers, where were the fathers? The father is there, your father is there. Sometimes the father is there, But the father who is there is working for uh the bus what you call it, uh m t A maybe

driving a train. You left out image in the household and of of a man who's working hard. But he doesn't look shiny like the dude on the street. But that is old school mine. You're talking old school, you're speaking from Okay, so now we're talking about the skin the scammera now, but I ain't even talking about the scam because the old school. What I'm saying is old schools that drug dealers in the community, and therefore you got to see him in a certain way. Now it's

on your cell phone. Everybody on your cell phone, on on instag it's late, they're rich, they everybody. Everybody on your cell phone is literally lit like everybody even if you got nothing, they are lit on the cell phone. So these are these are the things that you're she said, the weak minded individuals. Well, the problem with that, with that philosop sided people, all the weak minded individuals now ain't a attentative people fall to that same reality like

we don't you don't We figure it out later. You understand I'm saying. But for the most part, everybody's trying to be lit. When you're young. We ain't sitting there, We ain't got this events mind saying, Yo, you know, don't do that. That's not what we're going for. We're going forward was lit. We're going forwards hot. We want

nice things? Why don't we want nice thing? I young, when I was a young girl, I say this in my documentary, I wanted to be married to a drug dealer because when I asked my parents for stuff, they told me, you can't have that. I ain't buying that. That's stupid. This is that I'm not spending that kind of money on these things and that thing. So that's what I learned. Now I'm just saying, I'm talking about Tamika Mallory. There is a direct line between what I

was looking for when I was young. I wanted to be married to a drug dealer. And then I met my baby father and he was working in a print shop. He was working in a print shop at a at a law for he was he was he was tempting at night, making copies of the legal documents for the next day. His brother had him doing that job. But I wanted things, so I would say I want this, I want that, I don't understand it this and that you can't do nothing for me. That that that was

doing the net vib and the whole thing. And guess what happened next thing, you know, he started selling weeds trying to keep up. It wasn't just me, but I'm I'm I'm taking full responsibility because I don't really give a funk with anybody thinks I'm telling the truth. He started, he started selling weeds, and that was just supposed to

be some extra money on the side. But guess what, within X amount of years the weed turned into a little bit of weed that went to a lot of bit of weeds that went to him being killed because of um you know, folks saying that he sold drugs or whatever. Some that the head was drug related, and come to find out when it was all said and done, another young lady said she was piste off with the guy who lived in the house and so she stole the drugs. And yet my baby Frother was blamed for it.

He was shot and killed. He was left in the dish for two weeks before he was discovered. So, you know, for us, like some people think, oh, you guys are out here just fighting, um uh for against police brutality, but you're not really doing anything about the issue of fix my camera. If they all on me about get it together, um um sorry. You know, some people feel like well, you know, they just out here fighting police brutality. They're not really dealing with the issue of violence in

our community. And I'm like, yo, part of it might just be our fault that we haven't really expressed to people, um what we do and our real stories. Maybe they just haven't heard it. Maybe they are a lot of new followers, people who don't really know our stories. But we're not talking about stuff that is far, you know, away from us, or things that we can't touch and feel and smell and taste every day, because this is actually our lived experiences, right and that's pretty much what

it is. And so when we break down these situations, when I talk about how, you know, what my experience growing up young was, I understand how that reality created violence, created and talking about I was talking about how, you know, how we really grew up poor, you know, and how could the crackt error in our community completely wiped us out, you know, and it made us It created mental health, it created trauma, it created poverty, created all of those things.

And those things come from somewhere, you know. People just oh, you just made bad decisions. Everybody has to be responsible for the decisions, which your decisions is based on your choices. You understand what I'm saying. I'm I'm quite sure, okay, so let me explain to you. Your decision is based on your choices. Now you have okay, hey, there's no

food in refrigerator, you can not eat. Hey, you can go access neighbor to see if maybe they have something, which they probably won't be when you can see go outside and probably steal something to see d or you can go out and hustle and pretty much not you know, figure out when your own and make your own money. But you can have more money for even more than

just groceries. You can actually have some sneakers that don't have holes in it, right, and what comes with that, A lot of people in the community are choosing indeed, because you don't really want to steal. You know what I'm saying. You want to make your own money that you don't want to starve, you don't want to be hungry. So a lot of people in your same community are

choosing indeed. Now what happens was d is everybody can't make money in the same place because if you make it money he making money, then all the people that

hustle on it's not really making no money. So what happens is you realize that in order for you to actually make money, there has to be some level of violence that comes with this situation, because you gotta make them believe like, you can't just hustle on his block because I can't pay the money if we all hustle on the same corner, because everybody ain't coming and buy the same drugs, and everybody ain't coming to buy the

same somebody. Somebody can't work it. So what happens is the toughest person is the one that gets to be able to make the money on the block. So you learn that just by watching whoever they're scared of is the person that's able to make them money. So you start to adopt that mentality. And what happens is everybody else to die tell you, so they have to prove to you that you're toughing in them or they're tough

than you. And then what happens after they starts out with fist fights on the block, it turns into the guns. And this is all these things are creative because people just don't want to be hungry. I put you fast, yo, you gotta slow it down for the people in the back because they can't hear you in the back. Ok that doesn't mean that we're not saying we don't want to see violence. Man, I wish Erica could be in

this conversation. But they got to do better with this where we can have more than one person on Instagram at one Instagram, you gotta start getting three or four ways, you know, exactly. And my brother is on here flawless, um, flawless, n T. He's on here talking about how like I was mad young. That's the thing about lived experience is I was like fourteen and fifteen years old after my brother had been shot several times and he was in jail, and I was traveling on buses back and forth to

go see him in jail. I was I was going to the grocery store helping my mother to pack up boxes to ship him to send him, to help him in his situation. Like this is our live experience, Okay. And he he was not born a bad person, he was not born angry and evil. Actually, he's a very sweet, kind, thoughtful and loving person. Actually. However, however, based upon the fact that he is not my mother's child, this is

actually he's actually my cousin who we lived. I lived with him, so he is my brother, but he's my cousin. He lived in a situation where his father was deceased when he was very young. He lived with his mother, who had little means. They lived in a certain community that was very violent. It was very rough, it was very challenged, and he's he became a victim of his environment. So now someone saying, we want to discuss George Sorrows, whatever your questions are, please, I need or George Sorrows

to give him some money. He's applying. He is asked many times, I got the fellowship last year. We are yes, we I got some money from George Sorrows. My son did not. He's trying. So I'm trying because I hate giving up money and free money to please free because I have to work. I got a project. But anyway, um, you know, I mean, people try to make it seem like they're doing some gotcha thing like so anyway, um, that's how I lived experience, and when you it resonates

with me when you talk about the crack addiction. My parents were not addicted to crack, right, That's something that I didn't have to deal with. So I did a little bit better than most of the people around me. But down the hall from me, I lived in in a project on a in a project building where there was twenty floors, and on each floor there were four apartments for three four so it was eight nine, eleven, eleven apartments on each floor. Every other door had people

addicted to crack. Sverrely, I'm not listen. I was born in nineteen eighty. I'm not talking about people addicted to crack today, because I understand there's a difference between the today crack addicts and the crack addicts of nineteen eighty. They were severely addicted to crack cocaine. This was the first time in the in the and and I think in our exact sense that black women would sell their children, the children. And this is not this is not a bullshit.

They were selling their their bodies and their children. They was literally leaving their children in the crackhouse as collateral to come back for cracks, saying listen, you can hold my baby if you don't think I'll come back, and leaving the baby with the drug dealer for weeks at a time. Newborn babies, man like, I literally seen this

like I watched these things happen. I watched women who I've seen who are nine the five working every day, the most beautiful, smart people in the world was outside knocking on doors saying they would do anything in the world just to get a hit like this. And we we learned because it has now proven and recording that crack cocaine was implanted in our communities, that the federal government had lots to do with how crack cocaine became

prevalent in the Black community. And I think it's important for us too, because we gotta swing back because I know Cat is gonna get on us our producer about staying on point about white supremacy and about systemic racism and how there are some people who do not understand the connection between the ways in which our communities have

been literally designed. Like right, they say that the c i A. Someone Nicole is saying exactly the c I A Is reported to having been engaged in ensuring that crack cocaine was and dope and all of those things were prevalent in the black community. So we what we what we? What we? What we? And that's why I wrote in my last post last night, we have a We don't understand because when you hear white supremacy, people start saying, well, white people didn't run up and actually

shoot and kill the black people or children. We're talking about people. We're talking about the system, system, system. Take You could take Johnny out the system and put in uh Mark Jack and it was the system was still run. The same world will continue to run because the system has been designed in a way that is set up to keep our communities oppressed, dependent and broken and violence

exactly violence. This people don't understand when you say systems, racism and what you they don't understand what capitalism is built on. Capitalism is built on the fact that there will be a lower class. There has to be a bottom, and this structure was built with black people to stay at the bottom. The main structures that are funding capitalism is the prison industrialism and the prison industrialism incorporations. And

they invest in the bottom. They invest in us killing each other, they're invest in us dying, they invest in us being a consumer. Everything about capitalism is built on the back of black empore people in the world. That is how they make their money. They make their money betting on the fact that we will go to jail, that we will die fast, that we will overpopulate the prisons, that we will um spend most of our money into

anything that they put out. This is how this structure has been So when we talk about system make racism, that is what is built on. It's understanding that, Okay, we're gonna make sure that they have access to guns, even though they don't make any guns in the community. We're gonna make sure that they have abundant of access to guns so that they can continue to kill each other, so that we can continue to lock them up and

make billions and trillions of dollars a year. I'm laughing because people are talking to me in the comments, but no, and we are don't. He just wanted some batteries. His mother can batteries. Um that that we have to understand that when you and I and I really mean my slow slow for real, because I'm telling you last night, I sat up for two hours and talk to people in the in the comments that are lost, they don't know.

They think that this is about locking up Ray Ray now that you can lock up and the violence in our communities because the same the same position and if you can't change his conditions, You cannot change his reality.

This is why when you look at our rappers, when you look at our rappers, when you look at our athletes, when you look at all of our people who acclimate to a level of success, if you watch how they come into the business, as to how the mind state changes, and how they're able even able to capitalize and monopolize any of these industries. When you look at fifties, I

teach courses. I sit down and teach educators about They asked, why are we not able to grab the bonds of these young geniuses in elementary school and junior high school? How do people like jay Z don't even go or graduate high school? How does fifty cent of them drop out of junior high school high school? How aren't we able to capitalize on these young brilliant minds. And it's because the structures, and it's in the poverty and all

the things going on around us. There's not a lot of us to be to be in golf, in school and the structure of school that it's not meant to really teach us or teach us how to be the entrepreneurs that other white white counterparts. Again, so we're not even grabbing onto that we're dealing with. So to listen to me. I was dealing with so much ship in school, I mean in my home that by the time I

was probably one of the most intelligent my kid. My teachers to tell you that from kindergarten through a high school, I was one of the most intelligent kids. But I was dealing with so much trauma and ship in my school. It was from you mean my home. I was dealing with so much trauma in my home. That why I was dealing with the drugs in my household. I was dealing with domestic violence in my household where they was up fighting half the night, or one of them wasn't there.

Me and my sister was in the household night. We're worried about where they where. They had eight and nine years old. There's nobody in the house. You're waking up, you hungry, you scared to death. You don't know if they killed your mother out there because you know she was getting high. You know, you don't know what's going on your My father died when I was twelve, So it was so many different things and and you you had to call the police. Police knocking on your door.

Some nights, the drug dealer knocking on your door to out your mother didn't come with his money where she had and you know what I'm saying, it's it was so much that you had to deal with as a kid. Police knocking money door because your mother and your father was fighting all night, so the neighbor then called the police. Y'all had to sleep in the police presept because your mother don't pushed charges. And then you know you, you you up all night, you had eight You scared the death.

You don't know what's going You got to go to school tomorrow and try to try to pay attention to what's going on school, and nobody knows why you lashing. Now, nobody knows why you're angry, and they're telling you you gotta behavior problems. Now those behavior problems. Somebody teasing you about the sneakers you had. So now you get into a fight. Now you you're in the principle's office. Your mother's mad because she was getting asked and now she gotta come to school and talk about you. So now

she ready with your ass. Uh, so much ship that you're dealing with class. By the time you get the class, the white teacher that about already told you that you'll be dead by the time you're seventeen years old. You know, my third grade teacher told me that I'll die before I was eighteen, or I'll be in jail for the rest of my life. So nobody understands that. So now when you're tired of being you tired of deal, you figuring out. I gotta get out this house. So I gotta,

I gotta help my mother. I gotta, I gotta me and my sister can't live here. We gotta figure it out. My little sister was selling drugs before she was twelve. She was on planes but fucking cocaine inside of her body. I didn't know about this. She was coming back giving me a thousand. So my my little sister introduced me to hustle in the street because she was tired of us being broken, people picking on us. So this, this is what you don't understand. So people, this all you're

just a savage. And this is now you outside the people picking on you. You're not gonna let nobody hurt you. Your sister because it's just you and hug and and and she's small, she's sucking ninety pounds with the biggest mouth in the world. So you gotta protect her, you know what I'm saying. So you gotta fight for her, and you can't be sold. So now it's nothing all you have surrounding, it's testoster on the ego and violence and all this. So you want to become that. That's

like in your nature. You're a good kid. He was a smart kid. You played. You was one of the smartest kids in your community. Everybody knew you was smart. But you didn't have the opportunity to capitalize on none of that. Ship. You couldn't catch your because your friends around you was like, yo, we remember the first time man, I still crack was in nineteen I think it was eighty six, eight five or eighty six. My friend showed

me cracker said it's gonna get us rich. God blessed that when said this is gonna get us and I said, I'm not selling that. I wanted to do with drugs, And next thing I know, they had man and everything, you know, and I was still trying to do the right. It wasn't my reality. I was tired of being her,

not having enough. I was tired of trying to go to school, and having to hop the train to go to John J. College because you got birth bit, you know, And I don't want to and I don't want I don't want to cut you off because people need to understand this, like deeply, like deeply deeply understand because in the in the projects where I lived, I didn't even have parents that was messed up on drugs, but the sirens all night and the sounds of the drama, and

and my neighbor having to give my mother her money every month when she or every whatever time they got their welfare check, so my mother could hide the money because her children were so messed up on crack and they would throw her down the stairs and her money and they will fight their mother. And then they had children that were my age that were also dealing with

a whole lot like our community. And and mind you, the mere fact that that can be going on uptown and then downtown like whenever you had to go downtown, was like, why ain't how they live in so good? Like how what? How is it so different in these two areas? And it makes me think about people. So I want to bring us to like right now, but I mean, yo, we need whole live on how I grew up. And you want by white people specifically, like I want white people. I'm ain't talking about black folks.

I want white people to sit and watch and listen to many of us to tell stories about how I grew up. It's people that know how we grew up to Mika, and one of two of them might have made it off the block. Like, you know, it's a dude on my page. I don't want to bring up their name, but this thing was one of the first talking about who was one of the people. Know, it's a dude that's that he comes on my page. Yeah,

I'm not bringing No, I'm not talking about that crews. No, I'm not talking I ain't getting mother that I'm talking about. It's dudes on my page that come from my community. And I watched these dudes sit on the corner and hustle and sell drugs for years, Like this was one of the and they finally made it out. You know, they got something, you know, they changed their life around. And now every post is everybody's a savage in the community and they need to die and don't blame us

because we did the right thing. And I'm like, brother, you you was going to see block I was on. I watched you. You contributed. You saw some of these these kids mother's dogs. You're the reason some of them was was crack babies. You understand saying now you better than everybody. Now everybody need to figure it out. Everybody's a thug and all this because you figured out how to move past that, like weird And that's the mentally. I watched a lot of people come from and it's

like brother, and they're like, I did it. You could do it too. No, listen to me. The understand that you are the exception, not the rule. Because if ninety percent of the people ain't doing the ship you're doing, it's something because it's a reason why you know what I'm saying, like, oh my god, that's about I gotta do a bell because that's the whole thing. Well, I know some people who figured it out and they made it out. Yeah, sure, ship, there's a few of us

that have made it out. But you always got to ask yourself, where's the majority? Where does where's the line of majority? It's the exception and not the rule, and that's it. And when you realize that you're the exception, not the rule, and you stop holding people to a stay because to be successful coming from our community, it

takes this. It takes skill, It takes drive, it takes push, it takes luck, It takes everything to happen at the exact same time perfectly perfectly, because you don't because if you think you just did it because you're just smaller, and you know you like I'm telling people, they said I wasn't lucky at what told I said, Well, listen, you could have been the Central Park five. You're lucky. You could have been colde Prouder. They didn't that wrong,

but they lost half their life in prison. So when you when you don't realize that that could have been, you could have been a young boy, another young boy that just got shot walking down the plot who just didn't make it. When you come from our communities, there is a very large element of luck that you are. That you you got. You know what I'm saying, that you got to be some successful because a lot of

people that didn't do nothing that was on it. The young boy the other day, seventeen years old, they said he was on his way to get a college scholarship. He ain't here today. And it's not just that it's so evil that he that's not okay, but wait, I'm losing the point that I think is important. I want us to go back to the children of today and what is and how does systemic racism into what we see? Okay, talking about social constructs, communities that are constructive in a

certain way. Right. So they asked the question, what is the difference or at least I propose, what's the difference between systemic racism and systematic racism? Hold on, let me see Tony lindsay. He said, black people have been conditioned to see exceptions as rules. Um, whether it is the ones who made it out or the black on black crime skate go into the ones who commit crimes exactly, Okay, come back to you. So from what And I was thinking of what's the easiest way to explain the difference

between the two. From a systemic okay, you can't see me, what is happening? Okay? From a from a systemic racist is um systematic? Let's talk about systematic. First, tramatic racism. It means the district attorney decides that he is going to you know you you you finally elect a district attorney like say Ken Thompson in Brooklyn. He was an amazing uh a district attorney, which we didn't always agree with that, but he did a lot of good work.

So you so you do the work right because you're like, yo, the previous district attorney was sending mad people to jail right for crimes they didn't commit that. He was a crook and he was terrible. So you get the people together, the people like, we're gonna vote, and we're going to make sure that that we that we elect. Somebody knew,

So then you get a new district attorney. And then that district attorney goes into these courtrooms and finds out that the judge and other people who are working within court system are literally working together, like the ones in Philly who were literally sending boys to prison for crimes at higher rates so that they can feed them into the system, so they can go to jail and make products and whatever else and become products of the state, so that the prison system could stay wealthy and and

and and full of people. Right. So that's that's systematic. That means planned that people were involved that even though you may have had one good person trying to do the right thing, they got they get hit with a wall because they come up against people like the judges and others who are working together and they are conspiring for a particular goal, which is the prison schools, so that money can can can continue to flow within certain communities.

It's how you can see systematic. It planned, its scheduled, it's very intentional. But now when you start talking about systemic racism, systemic racism looks like no knock warrants, like what killed Brianna Taylor, being active in a particular community where they only use no knock warrants on black folks

and brown folks and people in poor communities. But they can just show up at your house, kick your door down, come into your house, and if you protect yourself, they can kill you with impunity and say, oh, well that doesn't that The reason why that systemic is because it doesn't matter which officer was involved. It could have been Ray Johnny Leroy, it could have been a black officer,

Latino officer. They are following a law that has been put into the place that is definitely going to marginally in effect black and brown employ of people in areas every time. It's just just like the legal system is is systemic racism because it allows you to pay for your freedom. So if you don't have money, then you are going to go to jail. When you have money, you can buy your way out of the out of jail.

When you don't, you could go if you go to the best lawyers, they can tell you for twenty thousand, I can guarantee that you will not do jail time. When you don't have money, they guarantee you will do jail time. And they under and the people who don't have money is mainly our people. Right, So it doesn't matter. Someone said, frist these are laws that have been put into place that it doesn't matter what it could be.

It could be. You could you could go and and and and and and and and changed and spit twenty cops out and then bring twenty tho more in, and maybe one or two might try to do the right thing. But overall, excuse me, overall the way in which the system operates, police officers and others walk into it and began to carry it along the way from forever. So it's like some of our traditions in our family are systemic.

Great great grandmother put the honey, the garlic and the limen in a spoon and has been feeding it to you when you get a cold all your life. That's everything. That's that's all we know. It was pretty much tradition. It's tradition. It doesn't right, it doesn't matter if Barbara comes into the fan Emilie, Barbara is doing the same ship that everyone else has been doing, because that is

the way it works. So when we say this this, there's a reason why what I'm saying or what we're saying right here is important because when people say, well, nah, at the end of the day, you should never kill kids. We know that, we know that. But what we have to ask ourselves is when kids are the ones killing the kids? Right? Why why you think that a child?

Do you think a child just woke up this morning and said, or a person just woke up this morning and said, oh, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna shoot a five year old, a six year old, a seven year old. Hell no, hell no, that's not what happens. But when you are living in a sense of starvation, you are starved mentally, you are started spiritually, you are starved educationally, you are starved housing, you and and and

we are living in the era of COVID. It is my expectation that this violence that we are seeing is going to actually get worse. It's going to yeah, because just just looking at where it stems from when we're living in this area of COVID. If you realize the level of trauma and fear that was instilled in us throughout this era, you understand that when you look at the the level of trauma and fear couple with the loss of jobs, with the loss of activity for our communities.

They took away some of youth. They took away the the basketball, the sports, everything that these people were doing that was that was giving them some level of joy that was now you're sitting on corners and nothing but heat. Already frustrated to feel like you lost. People have lost. Kids didn't even graduate, they didn't go to the people that went to school, they were like they didn't have

a graduation. They didn't have a proper graduation. There's people that are supposed to be starting schools, they're supposed to start certain jobs. They was they was they were sold Americans. People were sold the American dream. They were supposed to start their dream job last month and the job ain't even there no more, you know what I'm saying. Like they're supposed to start college college, they can't even go. Like everything they've been tought to live, to believe up

to a certain points, it's not even happening anymore. The whole trajectity of life has changed for our youth. So do you understand you know what I'm saying. Do you understand a level of trauma that is in itself? And then you you you you couple that with just the regular what we see or TV every day, and racism just in general, and you think it's not gonna get worse, the trauma that they see watching murder happen in their communities.

Why do I Why do I feel that I have anything to lose if the jump Out boys roll up in on my block every day, throwing me up against the wall, you know, just treating us like ship. The point that I'm making here is that we are we are naive to not have an understanding of the level of trauma that these young people and other individuals are under with all the different things that's happening in our communities. And what scares me, um, what scares me is this

what scares me. Is this idea that, as I said before, just locking people up, it's going in and that personal responsibility is the solution for decades and decades and decades trauma and pain and and and and unequal and unfair treatment.

You can't lock that up. You can't still people, you know when you so close minded right, because you you have to understand when when you look at trauma right and stress and realize that during the COVID that that that um that suicide was up, right, When when you when you realize that alcohol intake was up, that drug

intake was at at old time. How when you look at all of these things right, and to not understand that if if some if people, if the rates of people killing theirselves is up, why would you not think the rates of people killing other people would be up. You know, every everybody deals with trauma differently. You know, everybody deals with pain differently. We we cannot ignore the fact that that the violence is a way that people

deal with trauma. There are so many people that don't know how to take their own trauma and just hold onto it and figure out ways to prevent it out without hurt harmy people. So when you keep saying it's not excuse. No, we're not making excuses, We're giving you reasons. There are difference between excuses and reasons. If you if something happens, right, you have to try to figure out why is that thing happening. The reason why this is

happening is because there's a reason. It's not just happening by our most reason. It's because there's a reason. And Mike, someone else on here said, how do we know that black people are actually ones doing the killing? Right? So that's a different that's and then you got Branches, and so this question around how do we know that black people are the ones doing the killing? I don't know.

It's too deep. I am so disturbed by the level of ignorance with our own people not being able to understand how societal failures have created violent communities and how we need to dismantle fund and defund police in order

to address some of our issues. Right. I am so disgusted with that that or not discussed it, so saddened by it that I can't even get to the point of explaining to you that it is ironic at in the same weekend where police officers said we're not doing our jobs anymore because some of them are piste off about the accountability, a little bit of accountability that has been happening over the last few months where you see some officers being arrested, some officers being fired, and you

see some type of activity happening here where we're pushing forward and forcing the system to reckon with itself to some degree that there are people they are police officers are so piste off about it that they're like, I'm gonna quit my job. I'm not gonna show up two different you know, to to where I'm supposed to be. I'm gonna take a longer time to get there. This

is this is the attitude that they have. And then in the same time period, they are all these shootings happening across the across the country, and your shootings don't generally even happen. But if you bring that up and start talking about coin tell pro and talking about how they these people are not your friends, they actually they actually work together. Just like they plant guns and drugs

on people. And you don't think for one moment that they will not turn around and plant guns or people who look like us in our communities that will commit crimes. But let's go to that, because that's we can't even do that one, that's too deep. Let's start with let's just touch a little bit team on the idea. Okay that and because this might piss some people, or they

killed the same amount of people last year. Yeah, So what I'm saying is when people say, how do we know it's black people because we buried kids last fourth of July, last Memorial weekend, this is not a new phenomenon. That's maybe y'all just woke up. They've been doing. It's hot weekends. That's what it's called a hot weekend. Yeah, that's the reality of situation. And and we just get so when we get so caught up because now we're

allowing them to change the narrative. You know what some people are some people are getting caught up, old man. You know why we're not talking about what we're doing to our own community. We've been talking about that. The difference is in what I say all the time is when we do it, it is called a crime. It has always been a crime for for when murders happen in our communities has never been labeled anything else. When Ray Ray kills Pooky and they catch Ray Ray. He's

gonna do a hundred years. Ray Ray is gonna die. This is the typele We know that the law state that when one of us killed, you are going to jail forever. We are protesting get us the fact that Officer Jack does not go to jail. Officer Jack goes home on pay vacation. Officer Jack gets to sit at a desk until they figure out what happened. That's what the whole protesting about it. It's not when we were not when they don't march for this. We marching because

we want justice. Justice is going to be served in our community every time somebody skills unfortunately, but we understand that first you have to change the conditions in the community. We know that we are a hundred percent short that when you give these kids a reason to live, when you give them something um adequate amount of resources, you give them jobs, to give them opportunities, they are lots

less likely to do violence. We know that because anythingwhere where black people are in communities that are thriving, there are no violence. Different the out little kids getting shot in the cross fire, that it doesn't happen because it's not even shots because well, I'm gonna say there's no shots. I don't think they report of it, but it would be domestic violence. But but there's not people on the street just there's not random acts of violence. There's they're violence.

Violence is that they are gonna there's always gonna be violence to some level everywhere because that's the negative and positive is the balance of the world. And but when you look at the violence that's in communities where people are successful, is there is there's a situation that occurs. You know, there's something that it traces back to this situation. There's domestic issues, their problems that's going on. But you do not see random acts of violence where you know,

where unintended victims are being killed. There's very very very rare. You completely eradicate violence. The issue is reducing it. And Erica is asking what we're saying about we've been doing it and what we were saying. Erica Ford, who has a who has a program in New York City called the Crisis Management System. You know when people say to me, oh, you know, all you do is talk about police brutality, but you don't you don't do anything regarding uh violence

in the community. Well, guess what I actually was one of many people not well, first of all three and then many since then, Lance Fotado and others um are are here on this live many many years ago. Um, we started a program in New York City, uh called the Crisis Management System that you know, as I said, a few of us got together and work to get funding. I think the first amount of funding we got was five million dollars that was allotted for grassroots organizations and

it was and easy to get. We protested, just like we do for police brutality. We have to go you know, hold up, not not stick up, but you know, uh a four side way into meetings and conversations with elected officials to get them to actually put some money behind grassroots organizations that hire people who are formally incarcerated, people who have direct connections to the streets, people who know who the shooters are and who the one who the

people are that have issues. We we we went out and we found a way to get funding for those programs. It was at five million, I believe when we first started. It's over thirty million dollars and in fact yet actually that's right, Erica. We were bringing caskets out in the street protests and showing the caskets to to represent the bodies that we lost. Um. I remember one Memorial weekend we had it was like seventy shootings across the city

of New York. We did mad work and it started out being five million dollars, of which at the time, Bloomberg, who just tried to run for president, was the mayor in New York City and he sat I don't know, Erica, if you remember that meeting where he sat with us and he specifically told me to my face that he would not fund any grassroots organizations because there was no data to prove that those types of groups work in

in terms of reducing violence. But after doing some pushing at the time, uh, you know, a councilman Jamanni Williams and I think Fernando Cabrera and also a speaker Quinn, they got together and and they got gave us five million dollars, not us, because Tamika Mallory probably has received twenty thousand dollars ever from it. Completely. Um, from the entire program I helped to found it, help to do all the work, but I did not receive any resources. I want to change that at some point because I

need to focus on doing my work. But nonetheless, um, you know, that was where we started. Today it's over thirty million. And now the new the mayor of New York City, Bill Deblasio, has given another ten million dollars to the program, where he will give ten more million dollars to the program to ensure that because he realizes that his police department is unable to do the job he is hereby in our communities, they don't have the credibility and and and and the police is not designed

to prevent crime. It is not. It is the police that's when the crisis management system, that's what the crisis and and and and and so that people can understand in all the places where the crisis management program exists, so in places where they actually have centers set up where people like the Erica Fords, the A. T. Mitchell and the if E F A. Charles and I mean and Lance for Titles and all the others where they work,

where they do their work right, violence is down. These are places where when and I would say that this summer right now, we're experiencing a peak environment. But for the last five to six years, violence has been down in these things called in catchment areas because the ways in which these programs exist is not that uh they called the cops and called big brother as soon as something happens. No, they empowered the community to do its

own work. So in the community, there's somebody who has mental health services, there's someone who knows where you might be able to get jobs, a g D program, a college program, someone that you can talk to, you can you can have you know, there's there's therapy. Um, we even are learning how to eat better through the leadership of Capri Kiers. What else is? What else is there? Erica? Feed me some more. We got man, big brothers, big brothers. You need to pick up the phone and call none valunity.

But to Erica's pointing, to your point, my son Conca actually showing up after the ship that went down. That is happening from the crisis management system. That now that's something that's going on and doing the work to go round up the young people, round up the potential shoot is and sit down and try to broke the deals to to to kill the noise. And I'm not gonna talk anymore after this because because this this is the main this is the point and you wanted to do that,

you need money exactly. And that's what I tell people all the time, and they say, oh, well, you know you you keep talking about this. We need to govern our own communities. And until the the quote unquote games is doing, I'm saying, do we reality is, it's possible if you employ these young boys who want the street, who think they don't have any other either, any other

reco negative. You know, if you employed them and you say, look, we're gonna we're gonna make sure that you don't have to stay in the corner because we've actually gonna pay you more than you actually doing making out here on this corner. But we want you to be responsible for protecting these communities you want to. We want you to to be the media that people respect you enough, so we want you to be able to go and and and you know, and prevent some of these crimes, just

gonna prevent some of the violence. That's gonna stop some of the beef and suddenly be because they respect who you are. So when you're when you say something, your word actually means something. So when you're paying somebody to do the same thing that you and you're taking some resources away from the police because they're not capable of doing that. They don't have credibility in our communities. They can't come and put to Joe Joe and Ray Ray and say look, we need you to sit down and squashes,

because that ain't gonna happen. When you got somebody who's able to do that, then they need to be paid for those services. You can't go to work at uh the McDonald's all day long and then later on and then think you're gonna get to the situation that's about to go down when you get off, when you take your nap. You gotta have a full time job on the ground. And I think about just a few months ago, freezing cold outside, you and Erica Ford were and and and and and a you and others were out there

and we're out there in the projects. Now. I'm not seeing y'all solve the problems forever, because there's probably still ship that's going on in the same area in Queens. But you was able to help save some young people's lives another day just by going out there talking to them, offering them resources, offering them some kind of hope, and letting know that people care about them to jump out

police boys. They cannot offer that. And so what we're saying is when we say you need money, but we what we're saying is there is no reason for police officers to have billions of dollars to show up in our communities to deal with damn to deal with a pro approach. And they come out, the protest happens, and they show up with horses and and military equipment and all this freaking gear that they don't need. They don't

need that. Take that damn money and put it into the communities so that people can actually feel like there's some hope and there's some actual care, some understanding of what it is that they need. I made, I said to us, I was saying the Erica today. I was have an argument with somebody the other day and he was like, well, you know, but what we're gonna do about these knuckleheads? I said, give him a job. Well, but you know the projects that I live next do

or two. There's always some ship going on, and this one apartment in particular, where they just they whole house is messed up. The fathers on drugs. So the son he got and I said, you know what if I'm the president. If I'm the president of the Housing Association and that project, right, I'm I'm the one. I'm the big dog in the in the in the in the community, Okay. And I find out that in building number seven, Apartment four, Team B, it's all kinds of ship going on. There's violence,

somebody kills somebody last night. All is happening when I go up there, because the community says, we gotta deal with it. Something has to happen. And let's just say we decide we're not calling non one one no more so now the housing Authority, the housing president, she's gonna go upstairs and she's gonna talk to miss Mary about what's going down in her household when she gets there. She needs some jobs, she needs a mental health program, she needs a drug treatment program. She needs a cow

that can't read. Need some help. They might need some food tonight, not calmed help, help going around the way. We got food tonight that will get you over for the next week or two, because we know what you're going through. We know what you're going through. You you probably hungry. You can't even control these kids. They because you're in here broken, they're like that. We ain't gonna be pol like this is a reality of what's going on. If you're coming in with resource, it's like what if

you look at um um lean on me, man. That's Mr Clark used to go to the house and said, what you need. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna We're gonna give you some resources. We're gonna get you a job. I know Connesian got the baby. We're gonna take it like we're gonna do like. People want to feel like you actually kid. They don't want to feel like you're coming at them calling them more sucking police. And people are frustrated. It's too much going on daily. Man.

They want somebody to just give him a hug some time. Mrs She just want to hug you, to get somebody to understand what's she going through. And then guess what. Then guess what happened? Ray Rey gotta go to work in the morning cause she's don't told him listening your job this week, you're gonna be down there helping Mr John at the at the wherever the mechanic to this that at the third he got a job for you.

He's gonna hook you up with some resources. So I need you to go down there and and and every morning you gotta be there at seven o'clock. So now my own son, I see it with my own child, mice where he gotta get when he got something that he's focused on, and it's some money involved. Especially dude, go in there and turn the lights off, turn every TV off. He goes to bed so that he could get up in the morning to take care of his business. Of course, there's gonna be something that don't but the

majority will do it. And then after a while, when when trouble come about, they turned around to Miss Sue, the president and the Tennis Association, and they say, Miss Sue, you know, man, I know you helped me out with this, and now we got this going on. The light bill was never really paid. Okay, no problems to be hard. I'm gonna give you this piece of paper. I'm gonna help you'll fill it out. Because I realized that you may not have you may not you may not have

your reading skills because the school failed you. And you don't want to tell anybody that you can't really read. Okay, you might not have a knowledge of all of these complicated things that they're asking you for making you fill out all the ship and do all this ship that's complicated as fun to get some damn help. So I can't do all of that. I'm stressed out. My husband is having problems. Somebody in the fucking house is sit and now somebody and not my mama got fucking COVID nineteen,

so this is a lot. Now got COVID and watching the death count on TV, you're just kneeled in George Floyd's net. People are telling me to fight, fucking Brianna Taylor. I got all this ship going on, and you want me to fill out a goddamn application to get talk about the census and all this ship. It's too much. It's too much, it's too much, and you don't and you can't even survive. You barely count survived, and you

gotta deal with all you were survived. You was you was, You didn't even have lunch meat before this ship happened, and now this happened. You you below starvation? What like? People? You t like the job? The lay they said fifty billion dollars went to in the similar package. Come on, come on, man, in biduals got twelve hundred dollars there's too much. Man, we do have to do the census. We do, we do. We're not saying if you don't actually got it's a lot Erica gotta do the sense,

but it's too much, gotta do the census. But but I'm just saying, I'm just saying, with the whole, with the with the the damn it, I lost it because the census is mad important. I can't remember, but y'all like it's way too much, like it's over the freaking top. So now our position is if you want to stop. And and by the way, everything that we're saying here, these fucking people understand. They know it. They know it,

they know they know what's going on there. They know, and we got vote, and we gotta vote, even though you're my damn shit, I don't, I don't, I don't care about none of that yo. In your local communities. If you don't vote, other people will and then you don't be sucked up. Oh I know that the person thank you for bringing me back. Yeah, there's twelve hundred dollars.

You get one dollars. Well, if your old child support, if you had certain types of femily convictions, if this and that and your paperwork wasn't right, and you didn't even get the twelve hundred dollars. So now you don't even have the money that the little, the little twelve hundred dollars. You didn't even necessarily get that, or you may have gotten it, But the corporation's got fifty billions, and you're gonna tell us that systemic racism is not relevant.

Listen to me. These corporations think they were in the game the riots. That's why you've seen these white people out there breaking Target windows and ola talking. Got all this money, then they got the the insurance from the stores. They then they got the insurance from people burning down their stories like this ship. This ship is old. Target, don't be talking about that about my target. Target came

out and said they was for the protests. Of course there was, because now they got the surers money plus the hundred they got all the money. Don't put targets target all of these stories. But seriously, they got there is sent this money out there, and it was to the tune of fifty billion dollars that was given out to people. Yet and still individuals every day, people may or may not have gotten twelve hundred dollars and then of course you got your unemployment checked. Some people, some

people not, like we're dealing with some real ship. So when you say, well, why is it, why is this happening? First of all, every single summer, every single summer, not some summers, not summer twenty years ago. Every single summer, children are killed. Children are killed in Chicago, children are killed in New York, children are killed in every single summer across this country. In Alabama. Unfortunately, this stuff happens

every single year. Well, we have to do and I think we're coming down, coming down today to the end of this. What we have to do, brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen and family. It's first of all, not allow these people to change the narrative on us. Don't be allowing people to make you feel like the fact that you fight against police brutality means that you don't care about what's happening in your own communities. Because we do care. Okay, we do definitely care, and people of

us are doing real work. Some people could be doing more, but some people are doing real work to deal with by islens in our own community. So it's not allowed them to change the narrative, because that's the goal, that's the whole gool want to do. They want to talk about something different. You keep your foot on their Next Next Tuesday, we're going to Kentucky. We're going to uh have a direct action that may get us arrested for Brianna Taylor because they are trying to sweep Rihanna Taylor

under the rug. They want us to forget about that and start focusing on blaming one another and arguing with one another. And we are not going to do black black crime. Whatever the funk that is? What is that? What is black? You know? I guess it's just an easy way for some people to explain a black person killing a black person. And I think we just have a responsibility to educate people. I love the mean that I've seen that says thirty eight six percent of white

people who kill other white people. White people who are killed are killed by other white people. So every community has the same thing. Yes, it's called proximity, called proximity crimes. Right, whoever you're close to, you are most likely to commit a crime against it. We never heard white on white crimes, So stop saying, don't let these people keep telling you this black on black ship. Please, it's it's a point. So that's one. Let's let's not let them change the narrative.

Second of all, let's continue to fight for people like Brianna Taylor. And then I think the last thing is let's invest in local grassroots organizations that are actually doing the work, because there are people in your local community. Every single day they march. You just don't go. It's not that there's not a march that happens. My son and Erica was just doing the march. When was that Sunday, the fourth of July, the fourth of your mind, just

out there shout out to East Key. She had you know, she had a rally outside outside of the um the PE Center and was out there with along with Michael Kay. Michael Killis came out there. You know. So my askar is asking us, how do you get funding? I think you get funded by defunding the police. You don't need them to have the military equipment, you don't need them

to UH to do nothing in our communities. In some instances, we need to take those that money, take those resources and shifted to community UH funded programs, to resources and services that we need in our community. So the end

of the day, support grassroots organization. You can go right now, Erica, put put your Life camp um tagging here and my son, you could pen it for the next couple of seconds that were on here, but you can go right now at this moment and give to a group like life Camp and other groups that are actually doing the what they are stopping violence on a regular basis. And if you live in a city and you're like, damn, what

can I do? But you have relationships with legislators, you need to get in touch with us and find out how we did it. The funding literally you know, generally will come from some of the funding will come from UH City Council, UH and other legislators, and then people can also go out and get private funds to match that money. So that's what you guys need. Okay, right there? Did you see that right there? Give right now to two pieces of lifestyle dot com. Go to Pieces of

Lifestyle dot com and support local grass organization. Support man support because it's like down to look, yeah, support g MAC. I see somebody saying definitely Shan Duke mcfadder our brother, support him, support Manna support. Uh what's the fa Tito brothers organization name I can't remember it right now, because like King of Kings, King of Kings, King of Kings support them. Okay, this links for the jobs of kids and someone. This is how they trying to perform how

to free money too implemented. M h m hmm right because this this the city this year said they didn't have enough resources to uh to hire all the kids the way that they have in the past, the COVID nineteen issue and other things, and so they don't have enough money. Um, so we should make sure to support people like life Camp or organizations like life Camp, like life Camp that are going to continue to keep our young people employed. I see also shar Bates is here

with cash ap. My vote is hip hop. These are people who do real work. These are people doing real live work. And of course you can support until Freedom by going to until freedom dot com. That is my son and my organization that tonight is not about us. Give to small grassroots organism stations like um I was a smaller grassrooms too. But you understand my point. Yes, but you hear me, do I sound better? Not much not much better? Okay, So that's it. That's it. So

we hope we listen. We hope that you learned something, you know, We hope that you you you understand why systemic and systematic racism play major parts in the violence and black communities. We hope that you know, like we say all the time, we we don't not want to be accountable. We definitely want we did we deal with our accountability, but we have to understand where these things stem from. They don't just come out of the clear blue.

Black people ain't just shooting and killing and they're just like, oh, ship, what's going on? They just know there are things that created the situations. And I hope my realities and my experiences that I gave that I was you know, honest about and to me it was honest about her experiences.

I hope that you listen to those, you know. I hope that you actually listened so that when you and just not just listen to to rebut but listen to actually just really understand there are really serious situations going

on in our community. So, you know, a lot of people are angry with me because I refused to all the ways condemn what's going on in the communities, and I confused to you know, speak out and and against these young because I understand what they're dealing with, you know, and I understand that that Malcolm X was read before he was Malcolm X. You know, there there there was a process that we all have to go through to grow,

you know. You know, I come from the streets, and a lot of my understanding came from the streets, and a lot of things that I believed that helped me to survive came from the streets. There are a lot of negative things that I learned from the streets, but I was able to identify and understand that these young kids are getting these same lessons that I learned, and a lot of them have been taught wrong. And but they're not bad people. You know that this is not savages,

They're not animals. They've just been raised and taught negativity was you know, we've been we've normalized abnormality for a

long time. And I'm just one of those people that try to meet people where they are because I remember when I was there, you know, And I just hope that you don't look down on your brothers and sisters that's going through a lot in these communities and have made bad and poor choices and you know, and you don't see yourself as above them, but just understand that it is your duty and it is your duty to try to help them, you know, and try to change

all of our brothers and sisters realities and situations. So with that said, I'm just happy we had this conversation. It requires more and more because it was so much to impact. Yeah, but um, you know, I'm not going to even try to match that because I I know when our brothers speak, especially in your situation and things you've been through, you can speak to it even better

than me. So we appreciate you and I love you too, dy um Mice and you know, and I think tonight trying to give people just a little bit of a glimpse of what it is that we go through. But I will end this by saying, you still can't be killing our babies. Definitely can't, and it's not acceptable. It's not acceptable, man. We have to What we do have to do, is what I definitely say, is we cannot glorify.

We cannot allow anybody who is harming our community, who is you know, terrorizing our community, either whether it's systemic or not, to feel like it's some bad, bad you honor. You know, we have to. We have to. That's one thing that I learned from being in the streets is that we have to create what cool is. When we in these streets say, yo, it's not cool for you to hurt your own people. That's not quote unquote gangster. Because people want to be considered real. They want to

be considered this gangster. And when we start changing the definition of what that is, then you you start speaking their language. You have to speak to the people that you want to help. You gotta speak the language over and they want to be considered real. They want to be quote unquote gangster. Well, gangsters. Making sure that nobody

comes to your community and harms nobody. Gangsters. Making sure that you're not robbing these old people, that the old people feel safe when they see you on the block because they know that you're going to protect them. That's what gangster is. That's what real is. So when we we we can't glorify nobody's shooting and killing their own over two and three dollars or fifty or whatever it is. We can't make that cool no more. That ship is over.

It's completely dead, you know, it's there's no there's no honor in that. There's no gangster, there's nothing in that. And that's what we have to do in our community. Yeah, no killing babies. When I was a kid, when some ship was about to go down, they came and they said, women and children out the park, women and children go upstairs. They forced us upstairs, and and uh, and they made sure that the treets was clear before they did whatever, handle their business or whatever you want to call it.

And we gotta make sure there's some kind of colde in the streets. So if you're O G, if you somebody to think you are O G and you're on this live. The biggest part of the work that we do is making sure that people who are like you, people who've been through this, people who know these young people are taking the time to talk to them about codes in the street and make sure that they never ever opened fire when young kids are around, especially, we

want them not to open fire at all. But we understand that to have poverty and trying to say piece needs to exist in the same place is not realistic at this point in every situation. But you cannot You cannot be in a place and a time in the space where you so damn frustrating, crazy off the wall and whatever else that a child gets killed, so piece out street to listen. We may not always agree, but we agreed a lot today. You know, we haven't been

listen to disagreeing lady. But you know it's gonna be times when we talk about uh culture issues we don't. Yeah, we when it comes to when it comes to this movement, we're pretty much on on point. But like, but this is our closest statement. So we always say we may not agree, we may not always be right, and we not always be wrong, but we will always be all authentics. They tuned for Street Podcast, Street Politicians Podcast. It's gonna be we got a major things coming, So thank you

all for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed it. We hope you learn something. We learn from y'all and peace. That's how we own it.