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"Post Election"

Nov 18, 20201 hr 39 minSeason 3Ep. 301
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With the highly anticipated election, we are glad to see some states go to red to blue and to finally see a black woman as VP as Joe Biden has declared to be the elected President. But of course there are some people that are not happy about the victory. Join Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne “The General” where the pair will discuss their reactions to the election and their thoughts on what will happen next. They are also are joined by WA State Senate T’wina Nobles and Congresswoman Yvette Clark where they share their insight into the election and what is needed to to move forward as a country. 


Also on this episode, the Street Politicians are joined by local activist Gary Chambers and discuss what is happening in his city and what steps he is taking to fight for justice among familes who have lost a loved one.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what's going on, y'all. And I'm Tamika D. Mallory and this is Street Politicians, the place where the streets and politics meet. I am so, so, so so excited that today is our first day, our launch for Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network. Shout out to Solomon Guards our black black black black black black. Yeah, he's ought boss. He's a partner. Yeah, that's what it is. It's a partner. He's kind of boss. We respected. Listen to me. I don't mind working for another black man.

A black man gonna work for me eventually, because they all kim folks ain't just I mean, excuse me, all skin folks. Ain't your kim folks. That's so Listen, we're celebrating this our first episode. We got we got our champagne. Weren't promoting who it is because they didn't give us no check yet. But we're gonna pop this. Look, we're gonna be with people's eyes and you know, look, we're gonna get this together. Look, we don't got no champagne glasses.

Week from the Hood. From the Hood. We got a little little red cups that you probably he brought these, say't even the real red cups. These is the coffee cups. But we're good with it. You know what I'm saying. We got that's all it is. It's about a drink man. We're gonna toast for our first episode on the Black Effect Network Heart Radio. Charlomagne and Guard thank you for having us playing the beat in the Hall of Fame soon. So we're gonna toast that. Let's toast the Hold of Fame, Bobs,

Hold of Fame, Bobs Tree Politicians, Let's go cheers. You know you have to think about or it has been your journey that I've kind of just been going along with because nobody has that podcast. We're gonna be really really but three four years and you said we need to start something. We came up with the name Street Politicians. I think I came up with this name you came up with until you cameians. Definitely came definitely. Listen, no man, she came up with the logo we have, but the

name was no way I came with definitely. I know I came up with it, but he says he came up with it definitely. But anyway, Street Politicians is a baby of my songs where a few years back, you were like, Yo, podcasts are gonna be the thing. It's going to be how we get information to our communities. It's it's a trend. It's something that we need to jump on. And you know, I don't really like cameras, as you know, it's not my thing. People see me on cameras all the time. I probably think I'm super

duper comfortable, but I'm not. I'm pretty much like to just be easy and not have all of the attention. But you know, I didn't really necessarily see it at the time. But then as time has gone on and I listened to other really important podcasts, and it actually helps to inform a lot of our strategy and thought processes about what's going on in the movement. I was like, you know what, you're right, and there were a lot of people who believed in us that we need to

give a lot of credit to. One is our producer, the executive executive put the executive Kathleen Trigger. If you don't know where, you need to look her up. She is the founder of cat Scape Productions also I Woman TV. She works with an incredible team that is led by the creative director Janice Rodriguez. She's a legend. They are a legend, legend, legend, and they really did believe in

street politicians and helped us to get started. That's when we took from day one and we had we used to just argue all the time to a good argument, definitely, because right in fact, our first promo was I don't agree. I don't agree with you, I don't agree. We said it so many times that they were able to capture it and put it in a promo. A fact, but I think we found we find a common ground, you know, and we're growing in our you know, into our voices,

into our platform. So you know, once again, let's toast again, Toast again Politicians episode. So it's so much going on in the world, Like, what are we talking about today? What's our topic today? There's a lot to talk about. But the first thing we're gonna do is get rid of the hood remix situation you've got going on here with the rare cuffs. It was no I was cute, but I can't stay Sorry, sorry can I was having a good time. I'm ratchet, Like nobody says you can't

just good time. But we're not. First of all, you said, it's a celebration. It is a selling Christian but it'll be done in a different way at a different time. But then and we have to have Charlemagne to come up here and something definitely got to celebrate with us. We gotta interview him, We gotta pick his mind, the

mind of the genius. What was his vision behind the black what I'm saying, we even talking so much about black Andy Black, and you know, I think this year with the whole Black Lives Matter, everyone is interested in what's going on black dogs, and I think it was so genius of him to just capture this moment and create a network that really speaks our voice and talks about our culture and has different representation of us in

all facets and oil it does. So you have like Teslin Black, what is it with no chaser or straight no chase, straight no chaser, And that's exactly who she is, absolutely, absolutely, and so many other voices on the network that's given, like you said, different perspectives to what it means to be black, Andy Black, Black and different friend but also everyone dealing with serious issues in their own way, even the comedic side of the network where you know you're

gonna hear different people. I mean, what's her name, jes hilarious. She's hilarious, but she does talk about important issues. Um, and so I think it's just the place that black folks are going to finally find our voices again because we've lost so much of black media, We've lost so many opportunities to tell our own narratives, to share our own stories. And I think that the Black Effect Network gives us that ability again. I am super, super humble and honored to be a part of it. So, you know,

thinking ling Lane, now, you said, what's going on? So what's going on in the world. There's a lot going on. We had an election. We just you know what I'm saying, we got a whole new thing right now. We we hope listen, we are hopeful. You know. We believe that different means something that's gonna push us forward. That's that's how we go. Well. I produced a catch. Rig who used to work with Joe Biden, believes that something different it's going to happen. Believe that cats amen, she said

amen amen. That was a black woman's amen. Amen. It's not like amen amen amen. So you know, um, I hope it it's a new day. I think it's a new day in terms of getting rid of Donald Trump

for sure, because that just wasn't gonna work. For the four years we had was such so atrocious to me, you know, I'm just so I think just when you look at this election, for me, right, I think I was so just disappointed in the amount of people who voted for him, you know, to notice that after the four years that he did for this country and the poor fashion in which she represented, Like, I just think, for me, there has to be some level of presidentialness,

you know, some decorum, some class, some tact you know, and he lacked all of those things or so many different levels. And it's just like, it wasn't the representation that you like, he shouldn't even be the president of a junior high school class, let alone in free world. He just wasn't. He just he bought the worst out of us as a nation. I think the worst of us was on display, and he gave people who sort of live in that dark space an opportunity to come forward.

It's not that racism didn't exist. We know racism exists, it always will. But what he did was emboldened people and gave them the opportunity to come out and say hey, I'm here, whereas before we had them where they had to be closeted racist. Now I get that there are some who say, we would prefer to know who an individual is, like we want to be able to see them and say, okay, I have identified that you're my enemy. And that makes sense except that these individuals are actually

killing people. They're actually in charge of, you know, human resources departments. They might be your dentists, they might be your child's teacher, and so they need to have to be closeted with their behavior. We should not allow it to just be full fledged. Just everybody go out and be as racist as we want to be. Racism should never feel comfortable, not think. For me, which I continuously say, is that it was more than racism. For me, it

was white supremacy. It was it was and it was implementation and embolderness and and you know, and just pretty much normalizing white supremacy. It wasn't just because racism exists, Like I don't believe that most people that come from different, you know, backgrounds, there is either bias and we call it bias in our communities because we don't have the power to impose racism to affect your bottom line, you know. So we know that because we've heard different things, we

have different experiences. I don't believe that not out of ten seventy year old white men don't have a level of racism. Even with Joe Biden, I believe there's racing. If you heard things he said. There's ignorance and racism that just comes from the upbringing that you have, you know, but there's also a willingness to try to identifying and understand why it's racist, to listen and sit down with other people from different ethnicities and say, okay, I understand why.

I didn't realize what I was saying was racist. I just was told us something. But Donald Trump was living in that. He was he was he was doubling and tripling down on that. He was making people who normally didn't even feel comfortable saying, you know what, I'm gonna talk as crazy as to you as possible. Karen's were at an all time high. Kins were at a whole time high. It just was at it was just that, you know, they had their four years. If you were one of those people that's like, I need to learn

who the races are around me. I want everybody to be exposed. They're exposed. You learned. Now you know, you've been able to identify them. It's time for us to get in a place where we could go back to fighting without having to also fight fascism and dictatorship, because that's the thing that's that's that's actually the larger framework. We've always been fighting the oppression of black and brown people.

We've always been fighting institutions that have you know that white supremacy is ingrained in the way in which they operate. That's something we've always been dealing with, and it's going to take us a while. Like it's now four hundred

plus years. Some people say four hundred and two years or four hundred one year, four hundred one years, and then there are other people that count other parts of our history where we were even captured in Africa, um and then the journey towards enslavement, and so they say that's about four hundred and sixty five years. So it depends on where you are in terms of your understanding

as a historian. But the bottom line is that for more than four hundred years, we've been dealing with these oppressive systems, and there's no one president, one organization, one movement, one era that will change that and turn back the entire clock and just spontaneously we live in this fair and equitable world. You know, that's not really the case.

We're gonna have to fight. But we were fighting not just the institutional issues, but we were also fighting a fascist, someone who wanted to be a dictator and was really moving towards creating a government that would allow him to be a dictator by doing things like well, first of all, controlling the Senate, right which we know every time something happened that we wanted our government, the local officials who are in the federal government to fight against or to

stand against. They are unable to win because we're dealing with the Senate that backs up the white supremacy that's happening within, you know, within our government. Then beyond that, they were putting judges over three hundred judges in place in the federal courts across this country that are conservative judges who you know, Lee married attorney Lee Merrit, who we have to have on one days as a guest.

I called him just to check on him a few days ago ahead and talked to him in a while, and he answered the phone so frustrated, like, Tamika, you don't know what's going on in these courts with these conservative judges. Y'all don't get to see that because you're not in the court. You're not fighting these cases. But as attorneys, we're up against a real serious problem in terms of going in these courts and seeing how the

judges are ruling. So there's stuff that's going on that people who were like, Oh, I'm with Trump, I'm with Trump. That's your god boding different. That's what they were saying. And but those people who say that, they also don't understand this man was And then we have to talk about the Supreme Court, which pisces me off. But the Democrats strategy was basically, well, we just hope Ruth Bedegainsberg

lives until Trump is out of office. It wasn't a successful It was not because she just and and listen, shout out. She held She held on as long as she could. Days She's held on. She gave me days, she gave them years of everything. She fell out in her office. She had cancer, she had all kinds of medical issues, and she kept bouncing back. She wouldn't even sometimes stay out for weeks, like after she was really ill,

she kept coming back to work. And on her deathbed, when asked by her grandchildren, I be what her last wishes were, she said she liked to see Donald Trump be removed from office before she passed away. And so that that may not have happened exactly at the time that she passed away or when she passed, but certainly we were able to put the work in to give

her the gift of life in her passing. You know, when we look at when we look at the post election, and we just look at the tension that Donald Trump has had by losing, you know now and all it's been, you know, official that he's lost in these states and he's still unwilling to concede. Just just it's just that's just so shows to the character. You know. It's it's just like you lost, you lost. You gotta do like wi and them when they always tweet back, like girl,

if you don't sit, it's just like it's over. Like Trump, you lost, you know you would there, you lost, man, it was you gave a good fight. You actually gets he lost, but with the same electoral votes you. You ain't want to go to the Supreme Court. You ain't want you don't want to talk about none of that Russia involved you. You said that people was crazy. So it's like you, every time you look at what he does,

it shows you more and more. You know, we're dealing with a global pandemic in which he refused to act on that people are dying because we're dealing with, you know, health issues and financial issues in this country that he pretty much caused, you know, and and to not be able to just concede as a man and say lost as a man, you know. And then they had this march, you know, they had this million Maga marks march that you know that people got hurt. People definitely got hurt.

I hurt, even people got stabbed, I mean, and there, and they were so against the marches that black and brown folks were holding all summer. They were and not just black and brown folks, people are allies supporters, everyone who was down with the movement, the Black Lives Matter movement held marches where some of it did turn violent, which, by the way, I was watching Fox News the other thing,

because you know, I watched Fox News. It's a shameless thing, but I have to because we gotta know what's going on. Um And I was watching the other day and they were like, you know, talking about well they were saying basically, we can have marches and there won't there will not be people there to destroy people who are destructive, which we know that that's not true, but that's what they said.

And I was like, yeah, you know why the destructive people are not there because they were read at our march destroying you know, the destroying things to try to take the storyline away from the Black Lives Matter issue and to turn it towards looting and violence. Like we know what happens. We know that a lot of times the individual wols who come out who are destructive during these marches are people who want are you know some that you know, the superwolkes. We got the Super Bowls,

definitely got the Super Bow. Those are people where I ain't a lot. There are people they super work. They're so mad that they they're they're more upset than the families of those people who actually whose lives have actually been taken. Those are the superwolkes. So we have to work on them all the time, and a lot of times they are white people that we have to talk to and bring them in, but they are there for some of the right reasons. Then you have those those

coin tel pro folks, and that's an important present. I mean, they're and they're dangerous because they get people hurt. And again their job is to destroy, to try to shift the narrative. So you have all of that stuff going on. But nonetheless, there is a new administration that will be coming in in January. I hope that Donald Trump doesn't concede because I want to see the month do. I'm not gonna lie. Listen, I think I don't care. D push. He just gotta go, You gotta go. You gotta go, man,

pack your bags. Shout out to Michael Rap which told pack your bags, pack your ship, get out of here. He said, your loss, pack your ship, get out of here. Man. I love it's one of my favorite videos. Now that brings me to my thought of the day. And you want to know what my thought of the day. My thought of the day will generally be very thoughtful and serious, but on today I have a different type of thought of the day, and that is how long do you

give uh Milania? Do you think she's gonna do over six months or under six months before she files for divorce and runs for the hills. I think she already did. I think they have like a videos memes when they show you whole trucks already in front. Also, they showed the double the person you know, they found they found a person on a plane and it's like literally confirmed there was a person on the plane. It was supposed to be Millennia with him the woman standing there waving,

and it wasn't her poor portrait. Oh you feel sorry for me because I don't. I mean, he got a wife. She just upper leaves over so over me. You know what, she's got to be able to go on with her life, and she could have left a little while ago. Yeah, but you know what you don't see, and that's here. Listen,

show topics. Write it down. What happens when the wife of a successful person, or the wife of a president or some some you know leader right in whatever field feels oppressed but can't leave because it's not the status quo. And you know there's there's some people who will say, man, she's just as bad as he is. We heard some of Milannia's comments the jacket that she wore. I think it says I'm like I don't care or who cares

or something like that. You know, we heard her in the leak taps that her friend put out there where she is speaking terribly about the children separated at the borders. She cleared and like Christmas, and then, you know, we don't really celebrate Christmas. But you can't say you don't like Christmas because you know, black folks don't like. If you don't like, if you don't like Christmas, you don't like christ because Christ is Christmas is christ Christ. So

you can't you can't like ignorant. But it is what it is. But it's I think for a lot of people. Although again I don't celebrate Christmas, um, you know, because I don't think that we should be spending our money. Yeah, I've pretty much given it up. Yeah, it's just not it's before Christmas and that's right. So you know, I don't know. I just it like where we are now,

hopefully we're going to turn over a new leaf. But all of it is going to happen based upon how much work we put it, Like, we gotta put in real work because we have an opportunity in this moment

to make a real change. We have a real opportunity, man, you know, and we've seen how united and when we push on all cylinders you know, have different levels from celebrities, grassroots organizations, you know, social media platforms, television platforms, and when we push one message, we've seen how we're able to push and shift. That's what it's all about, man, that's all. It's about. The unity. We do it together. No not. I don't want uniformity. I don't want nobody

looking sound and doing everything I do. I want you to do what you do for the same cause that I do it, and we do it together, and we do it different ways. But still so speaking of that, the Georgia sent the Senate seats that are up for grabs in Georgia. Listen, here's the reality. What's the reality. Even if you have a Joe Biden Kamala Harris presidency, they can't get shipped done if they don't control Congress,

right the Congress. So you know, that's another thing. We have to have experts come on this show to break down to people what is the Congress versus Congress and the Senate? Right there? Is there is a difference, right, and the Congress is the full body of those who vote on our issues. You need to have both branches of government, the Senate and the Congress, to come together, right and make decisions that will support the Democratic president or whomever it is whatever, even if in this case

President Trump had Republican control in the Senate. So there's a lot of things that the Democratic Congress did block. They did their best. They fought or not they didn't take Yeah, I'm no, no, no, no, I'm not saying they blocked. I take back that they did their best, because there's a whole lot of s h I t that Chuck Schuma and Nancy Pelosi, as far as I'm concerned,

could have done better. Like you know, if somebody had me laughed at the day, Lindas our source says, when they were fighting to block Amy Barrett from becoming a Supreme Court justice, Uh, we were like dam they didn't even like pull an alarm in the building or like set a file do something. You can't really certifire it, but you know what I'm saying, something to delay it. We went to the cabinet. Here is they got arrested.

We wanted people to knowing. But you know, with the COVID situation and not being able to have people inside the buildings protesting and all of that, it deaf finally has created some real challenges, but nonetheless, to go back to the original point, right, the Democrats were unable to get the things done that we needed to be done. And it's the same thing when President Obama was in office and we've lost the mid term elections and allowed

the Republicans to take control. They now have power over a particular branch of government that is responsible for how decisions are made. So it doesn't matter who's in the president in the White House. It matters also down the ballot who control every single branch of our government. So there are two seats up for grabs in Georgia, two Senate seats, which would basically take all of this power

out of Mitch McConnell's hands. Mitch McConnell has the power of a king where he controls government and how things move. There are bills uh the George four Bills on his desk right now that includes things like Brianna Taylor's Law, which would be a ban on no knock laarrants. All of these things are in that bill, and he's not even looking at it. It's just on his desk, right um,

figuratively and literally. And so when you are able to take these two Senate seats in Georgia, it will put us in a position of power where we can now really demand that the that that the Biden administration gets some stuff done because they don't have the excuse that the Republicans wouldn't help us do it. So there's a runoff, right They First of all, John Osoft and Raphael Warnock, they were both in the election that just happened on November three, but they came. They didn't come, Uh that

excuse me. They did not reach the threshold in terms of the percentage of votes that you need to be able to capture in order to claim victory, and so they have to go to a run off with It's I mean it's like sports, right, you know about it's a sudden death, you know, it's like overtime, it's like over time they gotta go. Well, not really, it would be more like the playoffs when it comes down to

the final two. Because I think Raphael one Knock was like number eight or nine on the ballot, especially because his last name is w um and so because of the percentage that he came in, you know, he came to a certain level. There's another candidate who also came to that level, and the two of them are going to have to battle it out. So isn't that like

the playoffs? Because you know, I know about sports, if I guess the playoff competition, because yeah, you've got two different records and one of them is like seven to eight spot and y'all got a battle to continue to see, so I guess, I guess. But the only difference is in the playoffs. You know, after you win, you gotta battle somebody else, you know, so it's a little different. I think it's a fun playoff finals. He back, well, I mean, obviously the playoffs is longer, but he one

out of many that he was up against. Case now, okay, so it's like the final the playoffs. Fin told you got to teach me. But we're gonna be talking, all right. So let me just read the information for the Georgia Senate runoff dates so that people understand that even if you're not registered to vote, you still have time. So you can, uh, first of all, begin requesting your absentee ballot right now, right now, right now, you can quite or go online. You can go to vote dot wote,

vote dot us. That's vote dot wote, vote dot us, or I will vote dot com and get information on where you can how you can request an absentee ballot. So that's for big Mom and Mre Like I can't go to the polls. I'm immunal compromise with the COVID crisis. We don't want to put people in harms where But you know our suggestion, the work ain't done. We got we got it, we need it, we need this. Our suggestion to most folks is go to the polls if

you can. But you has mad suit on with your gloves on, do you think whatever, you gotta do it. Like we've seen the last election, though they ain't make it to them with the ballot. They came like the black panther. But if you can go to the polls, you should. If you can't get your absentee ballot. Now, December seven is the last day to register to vote. That is for vote A registration start it already started.

Voter registration happens every day, even on December eight. You can still register the vote, you just won't be able to vote in the election exactly. December fourteenth begins early voting for most counties in Georgia. Now there's gonna be some you know, some some issues there, but December four teen it's a good day to hold. And then January five is the last day. Okay, that's the election day, January five, which is election day. So every day up

until January you can vote. We do early voting. Now we're gonna need you to go back over that again because December four you said, de Sember four team is the first day of early vote. So every day from December four until January you can early vote. So yes, technically, but the only little caveat to that that I'm not sure of, but I know from New York City, some days it's not open, like on a Sunday it might not be open. But basically most days and Saturdays, of course,

it is open to early vote. And so people should go to I will vote dot com or vote dot wote, vote dot US, vote dot wote vote us and you can get all the information that you need about where to go, how to register, what to do, everything you need to know. Okay, sounds like you're playing I got it, Georgia, Georgia. So there's a lot happening. You got guest today. You've got guests that excellent guests that I can't wait to

hear from. Man Congresswoman Yvette Clark, who has found she's found for real, man, Like, That's that's one thing I just love about black people, Like we when they say black don't crack. And you look at congresswomen, even Clark, and you see her skin. It's flawless. She's got amazing

you know, it's flawless, man. So and and what she does for our communities and how she's always ripped our communities, has always been a voice, you know, for our communities and someone that we look up to that we can call and get educated on certain issues. You know, it's just unmatched. Man. I'm just she's amazing. I am happy to have on the show. And then we have Tawuanna

Noblesend a new friend. She is the president of the Tacoma Washington Urban League and is the newly elected state senator there in Tacoma, and so we're gonna be talking to her. Listen, we gotta we have to celebrate it when it's supposed to be celebrated every day, every minute, different,

different and then there's Gary Chambers. One of the things that we're doing on street politicians is our political activists or i'll just activists, organize a moment when we highlight activists in different cities who are doing the work that we know is doing the work that yeah, exactly, people we know are really doing the work because there is some kind of there's some activists, there's activists that you know, we don't know, We have no idea what no one

in their community knows them before. But what you didn't hear from me, right, but you know, I thought that it was really important, and you were like, you know, you know, we went through many different iterations of what we think thought it should be. It was like, should we highlight cases and then bring the activists that's working on the case. But one of the things that I think we figured out is like we don't know what they're working on because we don't know their local community issues.

So we just need to highlight the individuals who are doing the work so that they can get the donations that they need. Investments. You know, I hate the word please invest investment. We like investments. We love investments so that they can get the type of attention, support and respect that they deserve. And so I love the activists

moment or the organizing moment. Depends on where you are in life and what you want to call yourself or you know, what type of work you do, and we should have show on what's the difference between an activist and an organizer. Definitely, Oh, there's an extreme difference because what you do is organized, you know, And I'm more

of an activist, but I'm growing into you. But yeah, I'm saying, but I when I watch what you and Linda do, the way that you organize, the way that you strategize, and say, Okay, boom boom boom, we're gonna do this, we need to do this, and this is how we got to go and we need to call these people. We need to set it up here. That's more than just being somebody that says I'm mad, I'm gonna go out and I'm willing to put my body on the line and I have a voice. With the

way that you is the strategy. Part of the organized is the strategy for your street politicians. Street politicians. Let's go Episode one WHOA. Before we go to the next segment and have our special guests joint, we're going to

take a quick break for our sponsors. So I don't think we can discuss it enough about how women have pretty much taken over politics to me, you know, and when you look at especially in this day, you know, and I attribute that to what the work that you've done at the Women's March that a lot of people don't really want to give the credit for, but it

was very monumental. And to see how many women have been elected lately and basically seeing how women have pretty much, firstly Black women have put these elections on their back. They've been carrying it. We talked we come from, we talked about even Clark. You see that aspect of it, and then you continue to see and dissent it and just all around, black women have been getting voted into different offices. You know, we have our first female vice

president elect who is a black woman. You know, that's a whole that's a whole different conversation for a different day that people are actually trying to debate whether or not Mamma Harris is a black woman. If she's not black, I don't know what a black woman looks like. And I happen to be a black woman, and she looks really, really, really close to the black women that I know. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm no longer even shocked at you know, we had Obama and he wasn't black.

You know, he wasn't even American. He wasn't enough. You know, every time we get something, it ain't what we thought it was, you know. So I've become accustomed to the conspiracy theories and always want to take away, well, she's not really black because she comes from the Jamaican and the West Indian. It ain't descending the slaves. And this is always something man, I want to celebrate and congratulate Kamala Harris on her victory being the first woman and

I say black woman to be a vice president. That's right, that's a big you know. I saw a mean somewhere that said, um that if it says put your shoes on, because there's glass all over the floor, and that means

that the ceiling has been broken. She got this close. Now, whether or not she can actually be elected as president is going to be based upon what work she does, because we already know that Joe Biden like baby she They had to pull Joe Biden across the finish line, and he just rushed up and dust it together every day. I'm gonna tell you the truth. And I don't know who needs to hear this, but most of the people I know voted for and that's that's just a fact,

because I ain't gonna lie, well, I voted for. I'm not gonna say I have disrespect for the president elected, but I will say that I will say that I have some fundamental issues with Joe Biden still right now, we voted against Donald Trump in most cases. And when I started trying to figure out what was the motivating factor, Kamala Harris, who has her own issues and her own reckoning, and she has to do with the black community, she

was um part of my decision. You know. I saw that Charlemagne posted on his page congratulations to Vice President e let Kamala has. But that's how most that's why most people in the black community film and they still still got like you said, they still have the issues with her, but they said, look, I'd rather just make sure that this black woman gets in the office, because that's something we can celebrate, and we believe that whatever issues we had, that she's gonna do the necessary work.

You know, we're gon, we're gonna fight, We're gonna do it, and we feel like we have an opportunity. We feel like she's open to try and to make the reckon and make I mean, I think I've heard from her a number of statements, um and and also the ways in which she's able to speak to the intricacies of our issues and our movement. It makes me think that

she understands what this moment calls for. You know. The other thing, and we'll have to talk about this at another time, but Kamala Harris came up in a different moment within our society. Even when you think about Joe Biden and and the and the crime Bill and all those things which were wrong and they definitely should not be pushed on the back burner, but we it was

a different time. Kamala Harris as someone who was trying to rise through the ranks of a male dominated, white, male dominated system, she operated in a way that again should be challenged. But people have to understand that the world has changed. We have we have forced a new light and a new movement in in our society that you can't go back to business as usual in that way if you want to be elected to office, if you want to be considered by us to be an ally.

So I think it's just so much more to be discussed as it relates to UH Senator Harris now Vice President elect Harris and what the administration is gonna do. But I do want to acknowledge and appreciate you stating that the Women's March had so much to do with where we see ourselves now in terms of women in general really taken over across this country. I think that women and and corrector Scott King once said that if this nation is going to be better, women must become

the soul of the nation. And I don't think that that means that men shouldn't be at the table, because I think we can't do anything without men and women and are and and the beloved community coming together. But there's been too many closed doors where three men sat in the room and made decisions on behalf of the entire community. And so I am so glad that we're joined by a woman who just won an election UM States Senate seat in a place that it's like, are

there black people in Tacoma, Washington? Uh Tuanna Nobles, who is also the president of the Tacoma Urban League. And let me just say, as you come, you know and talk with us to today, Tajuanna. We have had the pleasure of meeting a number of bad ass sisters who are president of per presidents of Urban League chapters across this country, one being Sadique Reynolds, who is the president of the Louisville, Kentucky chapter. She is incredible, our dear sister,

who is a fighter. Then you have Ourvor Rice, our sister from New York, who was the president of the New York Urban League. I mean, you all are some bad sisters. And the fact that you can go from being president of the Urban League to now becoming a state senator is a testament to what black women and black people are doing around the country. So congrat relations and welcome the street politicians. Thank you, thanks for having

me on the show. And I do want to thank you all for all of your time and sacrifice and just being leading fight for justice in our communities across the nation. So thanks for having me. So tell us what what's the what's the what was the campaign platform that we can now hold you too. What was some of the things that you want that you've promised you would work on that got you elected. Absolutely definitely, because I currently also served as a school board director here

in University Place, continuing to keep prioritized education. I'm a mom and a wife. I have four kids, three of them who are remote learning, and so I understand the challenges of our families who are crisis schooling, who don't have the resources they need from broadband to technology, and so hold me accountable for making sure that I'm working as hard as I can to provide an equitable education. And I hope to champion bills that will allow broadband

to be a public you aility. So it's not a matter of luxury, but a matter of necessity, since we need broadband access to the internet to live, to learn, and to work. UM and also making sure that we're helping our small businesses and community members to get through this pandemic getting people back to work. We start UM a lockdown UM today through December fourteenth and Washington State because of the rise in COVID cases UM, so we have to help our our businesses that are closing their doors,

laying off workers. We have to help the black community, who we know will will struggle more and be impacted disproportionately to get through this pandemic. So we'll work with our our partners and community members to be successful in that area, um but also to be just a champion for our our working families, and that is around healthcare, housing, education, employment.

We need to have a voice for our working families and recognizing it's hard for all of us out here and we need people like me who who know what it's like to struggle, know what it's like to live paycheck to a check be a part of these key decisions that are being made in our state. Well, thank you very much for that. And you know we want to once again, I want to congratulate you, and I just want to say just understanding the reality we were

and we just want to know. We'll let you know that we know that you're a beautiful black woman, smart, intelligent, but we're gonna push you, We're gonna fight you just like we do everybody else, because that's what we do. You know, we're gonna make sure we're gonna hold you accountable. But understanding that do you see a real end to this pandemic. Like I've had conversations with people and and every time we look, it seems like it's growing. What I don't like, can we get back to a level

of normalcy? Like is is remote learning going to be the new thing? Like I have two children that I'm teaching from remote learning. I have a six and a nine year old, and it's very difficult, Like I'm not I don't have the skill set to be a teacher, Like I'm sitting there, they on this computer and the next thing, you know, they gotta roadblocks on one show and then YouTube is on and then I here to teach it like pay attention and one is on one side of the room and other. It's a very difficult.

We're dealing with so many difficult times, the trauma that these kids that we are dealing with. You know, like you said, small businesses, people not at work. It's so much going on, Like do what do? What? Do you give some advice? Like you you you know you ran on this campaign of doing things during the pandemic, like helping small businesses in school, and could you like give some advice to me as a parent trying to just

navigate through this situation. Yeah, my best advice is we we are going to have to hang in here and we're gonna have to cling to each other into solutions as best as possible. Are we gonna go back to normal? I don't think so. We're gonna move forward, and everything is going to look different. School and learning is going to look different, our community is going to look different. Many businesses are not going to survive this next wave

of a shutdown. You know, maybe we got PPP or some other type the small business funding, but they will not survive after this next shutdown where they have to close their doors. So everything will look different. The trauma we are experiencing right now and the the greater need for access to mental health sources changes everything for everyone. So we will not move back to me. But I

know that we will survive this. Even when I think of my kids and the skills that they are having to learn college level skills to independently teach themselves more than ever before, be responsible for homework and studying. It will make them better human beings. But it's a traumatic transition because we weren't prepared for it. I'm not sure how to transition them and help them to build those muscles. But we'll do it, and we'll keep being resilient, and

we'll keep taking a step back. My number one goal for my family, and I advise us for everyone, is to to keep our families whole, to keep our communities whold. So if that means we're not getting to homework today, we're not going to get to homework today, because I want to keep my family intact. I want to keep my family healthy. And now that we're locked back down in our homes and not able to, you know, to

move through the phases like we were. This is the number one thing that I want to make sure sustains after this, my family and then my community. So some things we're gonna have to let go, but I think everything moving forward will be different. I want I see your son in the background. I'm assuming that's your son, and he's back there doing his homeschool, and he's paying attention, and and it just shows where we are right now.

You you're a state senator and you're on here doing a conversation and doing an interview, and you still have to be a mother at the same asa time, home school in your child. Like you write things are gonna change and I think we're gonna learn different skills, you know. But it's gonna be difficult. It is a difficult transition. Man. I just want to say thank you for the work and like once again, we're gonna hold you accountable to make sure that you do what you said you was

gonna do. The transition may be difficult, but I think there is something to be said about parents learning more about what their children are learning, being able to hear what teachers are saying, um, you know, and to and to really be able to see some of their children that don't listen in action so they can help the teacher because the teacher has been dealing with the child that won't stay still, and now you will get an opportunity to see it and you actually have to deal

with it, because sometimes we don't treat teachers nicely. Um, I'm I'm. I'm grateful again for you coming on and talking with us today. I know that your journey is just beginning, and we have to give the biggest shout out to the national President of the Urban League, Mark Muriel, who I know is supportive of you and all the women who are leading within Urban League, but you're starting out on your journey as a state senator. You look confident,

you look like you're ready for the job. Yes, we're going to push you, but we also want you to use this as a platform to come back and let us know what's going on and and and and also to tell us how we can support you. You should let us know that right now what we can do to support you, and we're gonna have you back. So as your journey is developing and you're beginning to learn more about the position, we can hear and learn with you because we not enough of our people are educated

on the process. They don't understand what's happening inside the walls of the State House, and and that information needs to be translated to the ground. Yeah, I really appreciate that. I think the number one thing that I asked folks to help me with is to stay engaged. And you said this at our gala, that we can't just be presidential election organizers, right telling folks thank you for getting

me elected. That was just part of this journey. And we have to keep organizing on the ground, and we have to keep now that we get to testify in front of our state legislature. Virtually that should provide a lot more access. But one of my goals is to provide access to this position, to our state legislature, to our community. So it doesn't seem like that's something that happens in Olympia and our state capital, but it's something

that happens in our community. And I want to really engage people to you know, take stock, to use their voice, UM, and to be active. But I know part of my job is to be that educator UM, to expose community, to invite them in, to go out and find folks you know, and not rely on just lobbyists and people who know how to navigate the system process, but to bring the community who has no clue and doesn't know

they can just call their state senator. So I'm excited for this journey, excited to stay in touch with you all as I learn and grow because I'm at step one of like, wait, how does the bill become a log again? Yeah, we need you to learn this stuff real quick because not a lot of time. Thank you so much to want to We appreciate you. To Wanna Nobles, who is the newly elected state senator in Tacoma, Washington, Thank you very much, and tell your son we said hi,

we see them, Thank you, bye bye. Before we move on and have our special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. So the election, man, it's been rough, but you know, it took a joining effort by so many different organizations, so many different grassroots, so many just disindividuals who are really invested in seeing this kind try going a different direction, and ultimately, you know, we pulled it out. Yeah. Well, first of all, I

was on a nonpartisan tour. I have to keep saying that. I mean, we didn't not tell anyone on the road who they should vote for. We just knew we needed something different, that's right, and we encouraged people to make sure that they showed up and they showed out. I remember I was thinking that somewhere. I think we were in Michigan where when we went to the polls on election day, no one was there, and I was, really,

why are people not voting? But they had already been to the polls, And we see that early voting and also mail in ballots that folks really did do what they were supposed to do. They did the damn thing, and they showed up and showed out, and you know, but I mean we do have to talk about which you know, we'll talk about it later in the show. That seventy plus million people voted for Donald Trump, So we still have an issue. Yeah, we we have a real issue in this country. It's so divided, you know,

and it's strange to me. I think every time I think about those numbers, and I think about how his he actually got more votes this term, you know, and I think, how do we look at the condition of this country and be okay with voting for somebody like that?

And you have to think about the mindset. You got to think about, you know, just how the media plays a part, because we realized just watching social media, I realized how lives have been come, facts people have really like he says fake news, but he's he's the master of fake news. He just throws out the most you know, nonstatements and then people say, this is facts. You know. He's he's um pushed conspiracy theories or the weirdest things in the world, and you know, and people have gravitated

to it. So yeah, but you agree with his conspiracy theories around coronavirus sometimes, but anyway that could definitely be a holding of the company. I'm just trying to say, Man, I've heard you say, well, I kind of you know on that because at the end of the day, you know when you do start doing math, because when you look at the news, right, there's a lot of stuff happening that you don't physically see in your own life. And that's just true for me, not saying it's not happening.

We understand corona is very serious, and I'm not saying it's not. There are people who have died from I know a person who died from coronavirus. But when I look at the overall the numbers and I compared certain things, certain things just don't add up. Not saying that it is not serious, but you know, we just gotta I

just need a little more. Well, a person that knows a lot about the pandemic UH coronavirus and has been working with black folks, particularly in Brooklyn, UH in our state UM to help try to you know, get our people to be safe, to get our people UH to

be more educated on the virus. And and you know, as she and I were having a conversation recently, and she was talking about the educational component of this, and that is something at you and I agree on how bad it is for our children to have to live through this pandemic, the depression, the fact that parents and families don't always know exactly how to advocate, you know, for their young people in a situation where there's you know, virtual learning. Um. And so I am really grateful to have,

first of all, my sister on the battlefield. This is a friend, a sister of ours. She's going to be a regular at street politicians because we need somebody that knows what's going on in the world. Um. She's a congressional member, Congresswoman Evette Clark of the ninth District in Brooklyn. My sister, Yvette, thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you, Miss Queens, thank you so much,

my sister. To Mika Mallory and to Nissan, congratulations on this outstanding platform and program that will educate and uplift our people at we navigate through these very difficult troubling and and and crisis later in time, I'm excited about the opportunity for our people to stand up with courage and conviction and press forward as the soldiers that we are to make sure that our families are safe, our children are educated, and that we come through this pandemic

more unified and focused on all of the issues that we in this generation must confront and must address and must be victorious around for a few generations to come. So thank you so much for having me. Yeah, it's good to to hear your voice, because when I see you, I know that in our Congress, they are stabilizing factors. There are people there who know what's needed on behalf of our communities and folks who are fighting for us. You've been fighting for us. And congratulations to you on

winning your recent election. You just had uh an election and clills it out as you always do. The people of Brooklyn and ninth District they stand with you, and so do we um and but but it is a real scary time, especially right now while we're still in this weeks later, days and days after the election, it's

very clear what the results are. And still we have a man in the White House who's saying he will not concede, who is trying to again bring up these conspiracy theories as a way to confuse people and to hold on to power. And I I don't necessarily feel comfortable with what is happening in this moment, not to mention that we have heard from the media that if there is not a proper transition between a president elects administration and of current administration, that there are some national

security issues there and international security issues. Can you talk about what's happening now? And and well, first of all, just tell us what's happening, and then we can talk about what what should the people be doing. Absolutely well, first of all, we should not be shocked nor surprised because Donald Trump is being Donald Trump in this moment.

He's behavior has always he has been infantile. He has always been focused only on himself and how he can uh, you know, essentially uh work the system into his benefit. And so we need to be focused right now. And you know, I reject the spirit of scary and fear because we have got to be courageous in this moment and we need to double down on the courage that

we have shown throughout the tenure of this gentleman. I'm being kind there of Donald's Trump in the office because we have been under siege and under attack since he came down the Golden escalator. So we should maintain our posture of belligerents, indignation, and courage during this period. Yes, it is a challenging period for our nation because anything can go sideways at any point in time. We are

living in a sideways moment. We're in the midst of a raging, rampaging pandemic right now, and so that is the overall context in which we're trying to liberate ourselves. Part of that liberation is being focused on being and staying well in this moment because without our health, everything else that we have been battling over and battling for really UH comes to noll because if we're not passing on the knowledge, if we're not passing on the strategy and the tactics of how we got over to the

next generation, they will be doomed to repeat. But we have been fighting for right now, and so to me UH and to many of my colleagues in Washington, d C. We can't take our eye off the ball and making sure that we navigate our people through this pandemic, that we embolden them to continue to discipline of wearing masks, of staying socially distance, of washing their hands, not touching them not touching their face, because all of the science

indicates that the spread of this virus has not been contained. As a matter of fact, it has been allowed under Donald Trump to to to spread with reckless abandoned And it is such a deceitful virus in that you can be asymptomatic and and continue to spread this virus before you're even uh show in any signs of of of actually having contracted it, or never showing any signs yet carrying a viral load that can be passed on to others.

So we've got work to do in that space. Donald Trump, yes he's a menace, Yes he's a dangerous menace, but his days are numbered, and so we need to stay focused on our agenda for health, well being, economic social justice and navigating our people through this crisis to the other side where all of our issues I believe will be addressed and must be addressed by the incoming Biden

Harris administration. So I wanted to first of all, I want to say thank you for being here, and that's that statement was so so real and what we needed to hear. And I also want to say we need to know the fount in the youth that you found because I'm trying to go there. But then that's right, that's right, Amen. But I want to ask two questions.

Basically what you just said, I think for me that you heard me and to me having a conversation about the coronavirus and my skepticis not saying that I don't. I definitely believe. I actually have a friend who passed away from it. I have had people who have got really sick from it. And for me, I think that I think what it is for a lot of us is the way that it is being portrayed in the media.

I think when all we see is the amount of people having we see depth hos, and we're not hearing about how we eat healthier, about the things that we need to do with our personal bodies to make sure that we don't ensure all we hear is wear a mask or don't do these things. We understand that most people are not gonna do that, like Unfortunately, we've lived in a world that most people, unless they are directly affected by something, will not see the reality they of it.

And that's what I did with every day. I was having conversations like in the Bronx, just the regular cult in the Bronx. They don't feel like they're affected by it. It's nobody elseside with Man's. It's thousands of people in the park. They haven't They're going along with their day. They don't feel the things, they don't feel the you know, the effects of it. So I think, why aren't people saying, Okay, we understand that are certain demographic are not paying attention

to this. So why are we focusing on how do we tell them to eat healthier? And why are we tell them focus on exercise? Why doesn't the news show that aspect of it? And then also I want to ask you, and there's a two part question. And then I want to ask you about Donald Trump. And we say that we understand he's Donald Trump? Does it bother you? Do you question that the fact that this election he actually got more votes doesn't What? What do you think about?

What do you think that it's saying about America right now? Okay? So let me start with the health East because I think this is critical. You know, we we can't speak to our people in a monolith. Different folks taken information differently and until it hits home. Um for some folks, as my father would sir. It's say, if you can't listen, then you must feel right until some folks begin felonists. Unfortunately, you know they're going to doubt the science. Let me

say this unequivocally. Yes, we have to deal with the fact that our immune systems are compromised, particularly in communities of color, where we know we have been denied access to quality foods, to food deserts. We have been subjected to food deserts. Are eating habits have attributed contributed, uh, tremendously to the pre existing conditions we have, like diabetes, hypertension. Uh. You know, we we can go down the road call asthma.

We can go down the road call of all of sort of those preexisting conditions that are predominating the health of our people. This is what COVID loves. COVID loves those individuals who have compromised immune system And at the end of the day, yeah, there will be hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people who will recover from COVID nineteen. Once we raise this cloud of suspicion that Donald Trump has fomented through his denial, and I believe his intentional

allowing this to happen. We will see that having been exposed to this virus and recover from it's not the end of the virus five, because many of our bodies are now dealing with the fact that we had this invasive virus in them, and we now become more susceptible to other illnesses as a result of the damage that

the virus has done in our bodies. It's a cardiovascular primarily vascular disease, and that this virus will attack any part of our body that has uh been that that is connected to our bloodstream, so liver damage, lung damage, heart damage, all braink We've heard of brain damage. We've heard of long haulers individuals who have recovered from COVID nineteen but continue to suffer with the symptoms as though they are still infected. We've heard about people who have

been infected more than once or twice. And these are not antidotes. These are all uh verified, uh medically verified, And so our folks need to ask themselves, UH if their questioning what's going on right? What if I'm wrong in my assumption? What if that wrong about them? That that uh what I'm being told is the truth or not?

What does it take for us to say, you know what, just in case, let me adhere to these public health protocols because if I'm if if I'm right and I do this, I will be saving the lives of those around me and maybe my own life. I think that we gotta step out of the space of being about me.

And that's what the movement is about, right hey, us and say us and we and the only way that we get through this is if we put aside our synicism, put aside our confusion, and and and stand united and and and and for those who don't believe in this experiment, if you will, and for those who do believe saving lives and making sure that we are not in that number who are spreading infection and spreading death in many communities.

On the issue of Donald Trump, you know, I understand uh the inclination to to to call this man's name in every conversation because he has reached such habit in our lives. However, as I stated, his day's a number, and yes, what he's doing right now is no different than what he's been doing from day one. He is again in his he's in his feelings. He's never cared

about the American people. He's continuing to try to find ways to divide us and to uh keep hold of those seventy million people, and and and and keep them

caught up in his cult of personality. You know, these are the folks who uh you know, and and again I don't generalize who one uh as they as My colleague Hockey Jeffrey says, uh, you know, everyone who follows Donald Trump may not be a racist, but every racist follows Donald Trump and a significant part of the population that see him as a utility for the maintenance of

their philosophy of white supremacy. Then the actors who I would never forget through the twenties sixteen campaign season, Donald Trump says something I found. First of all, it insulted me, but I understood how what a master manipulator this man was when he stood up in from the proud instead I love the poorly educated. And when someone says something like that, he knows he can manipulate back of the

population into hanging off his every word. So I don't want to cut you off, but I don't want to get in trouble with your staff for not letting you go at the time that we need you to get to I know you have somewhere else that you need to be and they were so gracious to give us time on your calendar today. So I don't want to get in trouble because we need to have you back. I just want to say that, um, you know, the accountability piece that you touched on earlier is gonna be

so important. How we continue to work together to ensure that this administration does the real work. We can't have a celebration line dancing on the lawn um with Vice President e let Kamala Harris, who knows how to line. Damn. It's better than anybody I know except my mama uh and your mother uh. And we we don't want to have celebration for four years. We need to be serious about getting some work done. And I know you're going

to do that because you always do. And so I'm looking forward to us working together hand in hand, making sure that the streets and the inside of Congress that we're together and organizing and coordinating on behalf of our people in our rights well submissions. Sister Tamika Mallory. Is so important that we recognize the moment that we're in and the new way of life that we are establishing

for this generation and generations to come. The movement that has been established is a multi generational and that movement doesn't end with electoral politics. It doesn't end or begin with the fact that we were successful in and in

saving our country and shifting. Uh. The narrative now is when the work starts, because when we continue to build the movement, this is when we continue on the demands that the activists in the streets have been uh, you know, out there day in day out, um confronting the status quo and and and the power dynamics that has to continue. That must continue. And I would say that another piece

of this is the economic piece of this. And one of the things that I want to encourage your listeners to do right now is make sure they keep the pressure on around the Senate passing the Heroes Act, that they involve themselves in whatever way they can in supporting the people and helping to elect those senators in Georgia so that we can have the type of legislative construct

that gives us the progress we need. We can't sit back now and line dance and say Okay, job done it and like you know, clap our hands and think

that it's gonna be okay. This is when we need people to step up in this space, all of us to step up into this space and keep the pressure on and keep it going and build more reinforcements and get more young people engaged, and make sure that the knowledge and understanding that the strategy and and and development tools that you and others have have have worked on all of your lives are passed on to the next generation. So again, we are not crossing these bridges over and

over and over again. But the victory is certain because the knowledge, the knowledge of our power is regued in each and everybody, and the fight is still on. In the words of of Owner Clark, your mama, keep the pressure on. So thank you for being with us. We love you so much, so we'll see you again real soon. We appreciate you. Congratulations once again, y'all, thank you for your selflessness, your activism and literally putting your bodies on

the line for our people. I'm grateful and I know the people of the ninth District art to thank you. Thank youake care. We know we're doing something right. Thank you. So yes man, that was a beautiful interview. It's always good to hear from someone like congress Women Clark, who is always on the front line. It's always always you know, she's always on our issue. She's someone that we can reach out to, and I'm making sure that she's a regular on our show. Yeah, because she has a lot

of insight. I mean, the congress woman has been uh in Congress. I'm not exactly sure how long, but it's been a long time. Ever since I have really been politically engaged, not just as an activist, but like really paying attention to politics. She's been in office, and she comes from a family, a long line of individuals who are real leaders. Her mother, Una Clark is also a like a star worth in the community, UM and has

brokered many many many political deals help people to get elected. Um. She you know, has had The Congresswoman has had a few challengers over time, and every time they come up short because the people of the ninth District in Brooklyn, they trust her, they believe in her, you know, and she's always as you said, when we call her. I remember when we were outside at m d C at the Brooklyn Detention Center. They didn't have lights, they didn't

have hot water. Uh, you know, the inmates were calling out and banging on the walls trying to get food. It was actually the coldest winter of the coldest period of the winter, right, Um, and it was like ice cold,

and they had no heat inside the jail. And I remember when we called her, she showed up and brought a bunch of other congressional members with her because they had the right to go in and inspect what was happening inside the jail, and she did that, and she always comes through for us, and so, you know, just

glad to have it with us to that definitely. Man, That's that's just shows the importance of our vote and voting down vallet to get people like Hungress in office, people that we can call that can directly, you know, impact immediately what we need done. So you know, people with this don't vote there. I don't. I don't know where they get there from. Yeah, No, I mean I think a lot more people are beginning to understand the

local election piece. Um. And speaking of local elections, we're being joined by another guests who ran for a local seat in Louisiana recently. Um. Even though he was not victorious in this in in securing the seat, he still was able to transform politics in a large way in Baton Rouge, and also to bring attention from many younger people to the political process. And so the next time

he runs, he's definitely gonna win. You know, we all have to get our feet wet, put your toes in the water, right, Gary Chambers, You put your toes in the water, and now you are just a regular face, voice and leader in Louisiana, in the entire state. I can't say just bat Rouge, because people all over the state of Louisiana know you, and now all over the country because of so many of your other very viral

moments when you've been speaking truth to power. So I'm happy to welcome my friend Gary Chambers, who again is a voice of this generation. Yes, sir, how are you doing today, Gary? I'm good. Thank you all for having me. I really appreciate the opera tune it. Thanks for being here. Man. Like she said you, you started out in bad Rouge, but you're becoming like a national favorite. I you know, I've posted a lot of your videos, man, and it

motivates us. You know, when you're doing this work and you see other people with that same passion, you know, it feels good. So we want to thank you for being on our show and thank you for the work that you don't man, thank you all every time that you guys help elevate the voices of people from these communities. It helps these stories, you know, because the platforms, all of us are growing into these platforms right and and it's always been a challenge to try to get the

conversation to the next level. And so I just thank you all for being willing to do that. Yeah, and you know, a part of Street Politicians today we are This is our first episode that is in partnership with My Heart on the Black Effect podcast Network, which is Charlemagne's network, and we're so excited about the launch, the relaunch, if you will, of our podcast this large way where we have uh, you know, more of an opportunity to

touch more people. It started out with us just being on Instagram, uh and then some folks got involved and

helped us to really develop a show. Um. And one of the things that we have said is that we want to make sure that at every single episode there is a local voice, someone from around this country that is dealing with an issue locally, dealing with many issues locally, and the one that we wanted to talk about today that many over this past weekend have been paying very close attention to is Kawan Bobby Charles, h fifteen years old found near a field. I believe um and and

I mean his body, his face dismembered. He looked like he may have been burned in some way. I don't know all of the details, but I know that when I saw this fifteen year old boy uh in that body bag, looking the way that he looked, my heart was broken. It is broken. But I also can't unsee

what I saw. So now I know something happened, and we have an opportunity, We have an obligation, such as with Brianna Taylor, George Floyd, and every other case that we deal with, to find out what happened to Bobby Um and to give him the same attention. So I'm so glad that you are there on the case, But I don't you tell us the story of Kawan Bobby Charles and what we need to know. So Kawan Bobby Charles went missing on October the thirtieth. Uh what we know is he was picked up by a white woman

and her son from near his home. He was taking about twenty five miles away from home to another neighboring parish. We don't have counties in Louisiana. We have parishes. UM. And so he was taken to a neighboring parish. Uh. And he was never seen by his family alive again. Uh. He turned up in a sugarcane field on November the three, UH when Iberia pair of Sharf's deputies finally without to search for him. His mother UH called authorities on Friday. I told the thirtieth to let them know that her

son was missing. UM. They attempted to try to get an amber alert. UH. No amber alert was sent at that time. And he goes through the weekend. We don't know what took what took place during that weekend, And those are the unanswered questions, right, we don't know uh specifically, Uh did he die on October the thirtie? Did he die on October thirty one? How long was he in this field? We don't have those answers today, uh as a as a community, as a state, right and more importantly,

his family does not have those answers. UM. And I think that what what what we're looking at is trying to find out how did he end up in that field? Why is this family being allowed to be transient at this moment and move around the state of Louisiana right when we don't know what what role they played in the depth of this fifteen year old black child. So just hearing it is is disheartening, you know, I just I feel for the family. Well, Um, do we know

about the autopsy? Was the autopsy done and if so, was the what is the status of So the autopsy done by the Paris said that Kawan drowned um and that the injuries to his body were after his death. The independent autopsy is going to come out, I believe today or tomorrow. The family has done independent autopsy on his body and so we're waiting for those results to

come out from Attorney Ron Haley. Now I heard that the water near where the field where Kuan was found or Bobby was found because his family, I'm told, calls him Bobby. So we want to make sure we honor him and them in that way. Um, that the field, the water wasn't that high. It wasn't the kind of water that you would be completely submerged urged into if you fell in a pond. We're talking about a sugarcane field and something that that is equal to maybe a

small ditch, is what they're saying. That he was found in or near and this ditch is near the family's house. Correct, everything is within proximity to the family who initially picked his brother up um on October the thirties. So you know, he was not far from them where he was found. Uh, we know for a fact that he was with them when he left his family. We just don't know what happened between the time that these people took him away

without the consent of his parents. That that that must be said, without the consent of his mother or his father took him away, and then the next time his parents see him, he is deceased. So and he okay, And so the family is not supposed to leave town, right, That's what we've been That's what I think we heard. And so is the rule that they can't leave Louisiana, because it seems to me that they've been moving around. I mean that's what that's what we heard, that they've

been moving around. Um, that they've actually relocated. They have, so they lived in a trailer in the area. Uh, they moved out of the trailer, and they moved to an area, uh somewhere else in the state. We're not sure uh specifically if the shaff What I don't understand is if if I break the law, you know, they're not gonna give me the opportunity to be moving all around this, right, They're not gonna give me the opportunity, uh to be transient after a potential murder, right or

while a murder investigation is going on. And so you know, we don't know to what degree the Shares Department is uh taking this extremely serious, and without this national attention, we're not sure if we're going to get these kind of answers. Because let's be honest, this is rural Louisiana. They get to fly under the radar without the microscope

of public accountability. And so it's in porton that we continue to shine the light because we don't know where these people are going to go or if they're going to move again, and hopefully authorities know where they are at this moment. So for for me, I mean, at most, I mean, at least we know that that he was kidnapped, he was This is abduction. If he was taken without the consent of his family by someone else, and they admit that that that's a that's a charge legally anyway.

So what what is the sheriff's department saying? What are the police saying? They're gonna say, he willingly went with this this family because it seems like he was friends. He knew them, and he was friends with one of the other kids, right, the kid and he went to school with each other. Is what I is what I understand, and I gotta say the name Jamal Tailor, Eugene Collins. They are the activists that have kind of been on the ground in the ball when you're working this um.

And and what what they've come to understand is that they had a friendship. Um. And so these were people that he knew. We just don't know what happened once he was gone and old Um, it's you can't tell me that you find a little black baby in the field like that. And if he was white, or if he if it was a different name, that we would not have these people detained until they get the answers. That's right, And it's exactly what you said, my son, right, if if I am found to have taken someone else's

child without their permission. You would detain me on that until you can prove what I did on the on on the murder, or until they can prove that they didn't do something. You know, there would have to be some level of evidence. Either way. A man, a young boy lost his life. The last person he was seen with or known to be with is this adult person who picked him up in their car. Nobody knows anything after that, and and there is no type of accountability.

And this is really crazy to me, except the other another mother or another person who says she's a mother who called uh Kawan's mother, Bobby's mother to tell her that there was bleached in the car after you know for sure that Bobby had been in the car right and she's saying the car had been bleached, that there was drugs. I mean, this lady seemed to be very confident in the recording that we heard um that you posted.

And also have to give a shout out to Warriors in the Garden UH in New York City and organization that has been organizing here. I mean, people have been organizing around the country around Bobby's death murder. However, we're going to find out at some point um. Uh that that that that this this thing happened to him. Um. And so it seems like some people know what's going on.

But but but the idea that time and time again, families are not given the respect of receiving the same information that officers often know that law enforcement has been involved. They understand the details very well because everybody else's talking about it except the law enforcement agency speaking to the family. The family knows nothing. We have to we have to make sure that we put a quotation on black families.

It's not just black families are not giving the courtesy and respect in the legal obligation that comes with the law to be notified exactly what's called. Yeah, so you were saying, and I know your time is shortened today and again we want to thank you for joining street politicians, but I know that you're also working on other cases, other working with other families. It hurts me. It pains me that we can't just talk about Bobby and solve

this problem by itself. We have other issues that's happening all over the nation. But you just told us that right there in Baton Rouge. There is another situation that you are now working on tell us a little bit about that. Kobe bow Champ. Kobe bow Champion is a brother who, um, we don't know the exact day that he was he was shot and killed. But on November the first, there was a shootout in a white neighborhood.

He was shot at, he runs from the scene, His family calls and the tells authorities that, you know, they can't find him. For thirteen days, nobody searches for him. Eugene Collins, the president of the n double A CP here, goes on social media after being reached out to by the family. They're going to do a search, which was

supposed to take place on yesterday, Sunday UM. And once they go public and say that they're going to do a search for this brother, the sheriff's department goes out and searches for him, and they find him and he's been dead for thirteen days. And so now we're trying to find out why didn't you go investigate you find out where he was. Is it because he's black? Is it because you want to keep it under wraps that

he was shot and killed in a white neighborhood. We don't know, and our young black men and what what what it is is a total disregard for our humanity as people, for for us as as human beings deceased laying in fields but where whether we're talking about Bobby Charles where we don't know how long he laid in that field there, or whether we're talking about uh Kobe

bro Champ here and Baton Rouge. What we know is law enforcement is just taking a position that, oh, we can wait and so how long does evidence get tampered with? And how much we could take for all of these things. And so it's just if if these were white people in this state that we're dying like this, or that these internets they said they were missing, they would go after them with the full power of the government. And we know it and we know that's right, We know

it to be true. Gary, Thank you so much, Thank you for being with us. We want to make sure that you, you know, know Street Politicians is available to you at any time that you need to come on to talk about the issues that's happening um there in Louisiana. We really really respect your grind and see what you're

doing on the ground. And soon and very soon, our organization Until Freedom will be on the ground with you in Louisiana to help uplift the local local voices UM and the local work that's happening there around, not just these two situations, but any other matter that you feel we should be paying attention to. Continue to do the work. Man. We appreciate you and respect you man, and like like she said, we'll be here for you. Whatever you need

from us. We just to call away and let us know when we need to start raising money for your next election. That's right, let's start now, keep pushing, y'all. All right, thank you Chambers. So and then you know, Gary, I'm being funny about raising money for him, but this guy really should be an elected office like those at people were trying to send to everywhere, because he does the work when nobody's looking right the way I found him online just reading, reading like he was what He

walked into building. He made the lady walk out, Remember that she walked out. He was reading her so like some type of council He was the councilman. He just walked in and she he broke her down so much that she just got up from the table and just left, you know. And he and the thing is he's so deeply embedded in his community that he knows the names of the individuals who sit on these councils and other things that control aspects of the community. Uh, he knows

them by name. So when he was speaking in this video to the young lady or to the woman whoever she was, I don't remember, she felt bad because she knows Gary, because he's calling them by our first name. It was. It was a different type, you know. So shut again to Gary Chambers man and the work he's doing, and please support him investing his fellow guy. We you know, we've been good grassroots and we've had nothing and had to figure out how we're going to do the work

and survive, you know. And people, for some reason, they think that when you're activists or organized, that you know, you're supposed to start. We don't not subscribe to that.

We believe that when you're doing Guard's work, and you really are, you put in your life, and this is you investing in the people and trying to make things better, that you should at least be able to support your family and be able to eat, you know, So please look look into supporting Gary Chambers And that brings me two, our final segment of the show, which happens to be it just happens, and it's called I don't get it. And as you know why it's called I don't get it.

You really were like, no, I need to segment that because it's so much shit that I just don't get. Oh, that's that's that I just don't get. And today's episode, since we talk about the election, I really don't get

how people still voted for Donald Trump. How more people like I think I think because when I when I when I looked at the numbers of people that voted for Donald Trump, I was really in dismay, you know, And when I went on my page and I was saying we had to get rid of Donald Trump, and amount of people which not even said them probably bought controls.

But there are ten percent of those people that were actual people that were all it was people that I actually knew that was trying to explain to me how it makes sense for somebody to vote for Donald Trump. And either I'm on Mars right or it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You know, I just don't understand how people that come from our communities, that come from my walk alive, our walk of life, and understand what

it is that we go through. And who have watched this man, who have heard and seen what he's promoting, what he's in voting, who have watched how he's completely divided this nation, not just the United States, he's divided the nation in general, the world, like the world is split. When he lost, they were leaders from all over the world congratulate. They were saying, welcome back America. You understand

I'm saying. So when when I see that seventy thousand plus, seventy million plus people voted for Donald Trump, which increased and so increasing so many different areas, it was just like, wow, we have so far to go, man, you know, and I really just don't get and I just want people to search their souls, you know, even the people that wanted to endorse Donald Trump. And and then it was and it was about you know, taxes, you know, tax breaks.

They were grown people that I want respected that told my well, you know, I'm gonna vote for Trump because I don't want abody to take my money. And you mean to tell me that the money was worth You're selling out the people the money that you was getting from some tax breaks or some PP loan or whatever you got was worth stimulus checks was worth really jeopardized in the lives of our people. You know, this man has empowered and emboldened straight racist man and people were

they're setting up for like a race war. We look, we see how this world is divided. And if you voted for that, I want you to serve don't. It's not about me. I want you to ask yourself what what was on your mind? I ask yourself, what what what did you value? You know, did you think about the country, did you think about those who don't have what you have? Did you think about the kids getting snatched at the border? You know, did you really think

about those things or did they even matter? You know? So for me, you know, it's a little more serious man. So I really don't get that at all. Well, I won't be labored the point because I think you said it properly. Children separated at the boarder, um, you know, the racist not undertones they were. Um. You know, the things that he said, the way in which he operated.

I'm just glad to see him go. I would love to get to a place where we don't even as congress Woman Clark said, um, where we don't even need

to bring them up anymore, where the world has just changed. Um. And I know there's a lot of work that we have to do, and I think Street Politicians is going to be an organizing space as well as a place to break down critical thoughts about a lot of issues, because I think everything happening in our community, whether it be how to chicken spot operates, to who owns the bodega, to obviously gun violence that's happening in our community. Saying

that mom, things that Mama used to say. You know, all of those things means something to our culture, the way we operate, And so we don't have to just talk about politics. We can also talk about the politics of the streets, because the streets has its own politics. You know. The other day I was having a conversation with my hairstylus and we were talking about growing up in the projects and how the projects is super political,

like super duper political and all that. You learn everything from the way in which buildings operate, the you know, the top of the hill versus the bottom of the hill. Um, you know who runs the little community rooms inside of each building, the community center. If you're lucky enough to have it. The benches, who's outside of what times a day? You know, the drugs, the drug industry, that happens. It's so many things going on in the projects. And the

one thing that we sort of ended on. First of all, we said you had to be there. You wouldn't know if you if you weren't there. And I have a book called State of Emergency that's coming out really, really, really soon, and you know, the book delves into that because it's difficult to understand our struggle if you don't understand the places that we've been confined and where we learned everything that we know, the politics of how we operate, because that controls the way that we operate in a

larger political system. So it's so much to be talked about on street politicians, and I'm glad to be doing it with you, my brother. Let's make history, man, and we appreciate you all for this first episode. Tuning in. We're going to be the voice of the culture. We're going to be your voice. We want you to give us your ideas. We want to take your critiques. You want to tell you that is whacked, is dope? Whatever we want to hear it, you know, because the reality

of the situation is we're nothing without you. So I'm not gonna always be right. Tamika is not gonna always be wrong. She'll be wrong what's of the town, But we will both always be authentic. That's how we own it.

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