No Freedom! No Peace!

everywhere where podcasts are are streaming. And you know, it's it's a it's a special occasion for us to be coming for a second season because so much has been happening that having a platform where our voices can be heard and where we can bring you direct information about what's happening on the ground is so critically important to my son and me. Um, we're in a critical moment.

I mean, this country is shifting. Whether or not everyone wants to acknowledge it, I don't know, but I know that we're in a critical time when the country is being changed. Um, there are some who wanted to change for reasons that are not good for black and brown people. But there's a resistance that's happening across this nation which is pushing back on anything that anyone thinks they're going to do to take us back to a time when our people weren't free, and we know that true freedom

we've got a long way to go. But street politicians purpose is to be here to help walk through the who's what, the who's who, and what's what. Over the last few weeks, we've been in six cities, UM, over the past eight days, and unfortunately, while try hale in these cities, we're not on tour for a concert. We're not on tour having a good time. We're literally going from city to city dealing with death and murder based upon police violence. Six cities, eight days, and so today

we're gonna be talking about a number of issues. You know. As I was um thinking about what we've been doing, the places we've been traveling, I put together a little list, and I want to read some of the names from this list, UM, because it's critical that we understand that although so many people are engaged in this new moment, people are passionate. People want to fight, and we should be.

We have to understand that this fight is not about any one person, but it's about all of our people, all those who have been killed by state violence, UM, and those people who have not received proper justice from their city states and from America in general, And so

I'm just gonna read some names to you. Rodney King March third, nineteen ninety one, adn and Louima nineteen ninety seven, i'm a du Diallo nineteen ninety nine, Sean Bell two thousand and six, Oscar Grant two thousand and nine, Ayanna Stanley Jones two thousand and ten, Trayvon Martin two thousand and twelve, Camani Gray two thousand and thirteen, Eric Garner two thousand and fourteen, La Kwon McDonald two thousand and fourteen,

Tunisia Anderson two thousand and fourteen, Natasha McKenna two thousand and fifteen, Freddie Gray two thousand and fifteen, Sandra Bland two thousand and fifteen, Christian Taylor two thousand and fifteen, Philando Castill two thousand and sixteen, our Antoine Rose two thousand and eighteen, A Tatiana Jefferson two thousand and nineteen, George Floyd two thousand and twenty, Brianna Taylor two thousand and twenty, A mod Aubrey two thousand and twenty, And

there's so many more names of Debra Dannas to the Ramallei Grahams. There are so many names, Santra, he said a Cod Gurley, there's too many names to mention. Um and I'm sure we're missing so many many people. So the thought of the day that I have, and it's a scary topic because is so um, you know, it's so, it's so it's such a hot button issue, but it's real. And the question I think we have to be asking ourselves is does it take rioting that includes vandalism and

burning down buildings to get justice? And how do we deal with the fact that some of the people, most of the people who are initiating these acts of vandalism, looting and violence are folks who are really not even a part of our real movement. So does it take writing to get things done? I think that's the question that we have to ask ourselves today. I think for me, you know, America has never responded to anything that was

quote unquote petrol. They never responded to any um asked that that wasn't followed by a demand that threatened them to lose The only thing with America respects, unfortunately, is the loss of life or the loss of money. You know, and we we don't. We don't want to take anyone's life. You know, this is a non violent we most of us practice King and aroused us that we practice it, and most of our people just are naturally, just innately

just not violent. So like Dr King said, you know, riots are the voice of the unheard, and that seems to be how it shapes up. We look back to the riots after Dr King passed away. They led to the civil rights they led to civil rights laws being so we have to ask herself. It's we have to ask herself if that's not the only thing they respect, what else have we ever seen work? You know, we we've seen what it is based on. Like America itself, it's colonizes, you know what I'm saying. They have every

thing that they've done, they've violently taken. They go into other countries and decide how they run there. You know, they run their governments and things through violence, not by peaceful takeovers, not by peaceful demonstrations. So you can't expect anyone who has never gained any power peacefully to give up any power peaceful. So that's what happens. I think

that's what's happened. That's what we've seen throughout history. When they realize that, you know, they're gonna lose property, there's a possible loss of life, there's a possible loss or something, then they they're they're prone to make some changes. And another thing is when you asked about a lot of these people who are out there, you know there aren't even with the movement they are. They are also all two kinds of schemes. These major corporations, they want to

be looted, they want to be destroyed. They want to be bailed out. You know, they've already been bailed out, so they want to get the insurance money and the time it takes. Because we've we've been in a three months pandemic and if you think about what the pandemic

has done. They are organizations, they are big name organizations who have had products inside of their myths for three and for um night over ninety days that they probably can't even sell that the warrantee is it's going on it, you know what I'm saying, So how do they not lose the products? So when you see the provocateurs, when you see the people that look like that, you don't know what they're doing here and they're setting something on fire. You know, it's an insurance game. Did they do it

in the hood? When the car get bad, they pay somebody in the hood to go further? Like this is the insurance game. So they're playing the same game, just on a higher level. So we can't act like we're stupid to those things. We can't act like these bailouts that they give during this COVID nineteen and they're given us twelve llar texts and they're giving them hundreds of millions of dollars don't coincide with this. So you've got a hundred minute dollars now the insurance for all the

property you lost. You know how much money these major corporations are gonna make or for this or for this insurance thing because they burnt down and they was able to have to close down and theft and loss of all these things that they under ensured under. So this is a this is a bigger game than just Risese. They they welcome the riots, you know what I'm saying.

They welcome them, but at the end of the day, they know that they can't continue and they know they have to make some change because they know that the people are fed up. So this is a this is a carefully strategized pan that I think is by the government. And it's also they understand that when you get to the people to a level where they don't even feel like they're being governed by the government, something has to change. They know, like this point, you see that we are

no longer willing to be governed by this government. You no longer this government right now is not represent the people. And that's why you're seeing harsh you know, things happening like I'm hearing. I don't know, don't quote me, but somebody just texts me tell them about either. You know, the commissioner has been fired in New York. Maybe it's true,

maybe it's not. He should have been verified, but if it is, it shows you the drastic changes that have to be made in this time because the people in New York are no longer fist respecting law enforcement. They don't see them as someone who protects and serves them. So when you make that painfully clear, they have no other choice that but to do something. I mean, I disagree about one thing, and that is I'm not sure that all of these corpetitions are participating in the scandal

to like burned down their buildings. And I know for sure Chanel Shorlette surely didn't want people to run up and their joint and steal their bags and lu beton their shoes. I don't think that they set it up that way. And even Mark Jacobs, um, I think one of their source was hit in one city and they came out and was like, listen, it's property, it's not

human beings and human life. So I don't know that all of them are bad actors, but I do agree that there's an element of this whole movement that has always since I mean we're talking back in the Civil rights era when Dr King was out there, there's always been detractors, and there's always been people who want to stir up the confusion because in confusion you could do things like get an insurance claim. You can make the media change this message from talking about you know, police

accountability to all of a sudden, the protesters are violent. Um, it gives police officers another reason to go out and kill you. And I think that's what worries me is that a lot of our young people, um, they don't really realize that, you know, one we need to be working towards particular goal. And then the question that we're charged with today's like it's throwing a brick gonna actually get whatever we're trying to get done solidified. I don't know,

maybe it is. I'm just saying that's the thing we always have to ask ourselves from a strategy perspective. But also, these people will kill you, and they've been doing it. They've been There's a woman who died somewhere in this country. I can't even think of where it is, but she was out there protests and a young girl, she was a young white girl and she died. Um. You know, you saw the elderly man and when he hit the ground, the blood is coming out of his ear. So it's

very dangerous. And they have license to kill. They have laws that protect them killing people. Now I reckon what we would say is well, if people are participating in the act of rebellion and they're serious about it, then people have to be prepared to lose their lives in order to to to really um make a difference. Right. But what I've been you and I have been debating or discussing. I can't say for the for for the first time ever that you've been really pushing against it.

But we've been debating whether or not our people are properly trained for this movement. Like I'm not a hundred percent sure. We don't even know our neighbors. So if you don't know your neighbor and people come intoe your community and they like trying to purge us, are people gonna actually come outside and say, I'm willing to take up arms to fight the McMichael's that killed um Ahmad are very like? Are people gonna come out and really

staying for us? Are these white people who are all up in our marches, are they gonna come outside and make a citizen's arrest on a police officer or on people like the McMichaels who and you know who were in the process of killing um Ahmad arevery I don't know if we if we could go, if we could say we're getting we're gonna at our guns, We're gonna protect our communities, and we go back to trade von Martin.

Were people in that community see themselves as being so much of the community that they would come out and take up arms and actually shoot, kill, arrest. George immiment I don't. I don't know if that is even really what what it is that that even matters. I think that will. The issue for me is the people who would come out don't have the guns. You understand I'm saying. So we know that everybody is not gonna do it

is everybody go for everything. But there are people who will protect, who want to be able to protect, who want to be prepared enough to go outside and if something they see something, they want to have the right. They want to have a legal right. They don't want to be beyond the law. They don't want to do, you know, things that are illegal. Just some people that don't. They want to be within the realms of the law.

And it is within the realms of the law for you to have a fire you know, but is it within the realm of the law, mice to actually shoot your firearms? Because the bottom line is in order for you have you do the reason why you have a firearm is to protect you, your family, your homes. You know, when you are in threat, when you're being threatened, you are, and you have a legal firearm, you have the right to fire that fire all. But it's not working. It is It's the thing is this We're not we's not

working that way. We are not firing a firearm to protect us. So where's that have will? We have a legal firearms and we're firing and to protect ourselves and it's not working. Okay, So Kenny Walker talking about that. Yeah, obviously now, um he's been able to get off. But that's also because so many people stood up for him. And that's what we have to do. Mrs Marissa Alexander. We know because we met fighting for Moliss to Alexander, this woman fired a one and shot ended up being

in jail for many years. So when you're saying that we have the right, it's that right. It's only becoming or being realized either after major struggle or not at all. How many people you think are locked up right now that fired one and shot or shot someone and rightfully so, but because they're a person of color, the law is not working for them. But that's the thing we have to do. We have to gradually because we understand they're not gonna just give us all right, so we have

to gradually go the steps. So we gotta say, okay, first we're gonna all our brothers and then we're gonna fight the fact that they did. They legally have a fire arm and they have a legal right to protect themselves. So that's it's a two pronged situation. But first we got to make sure that they prepared because even with the bottom line is, even if you gotta fight for

your freedom, you're not gonna die. So this is to me, you rather I'd rather take my freedom, link send jail for some years and have to fight to get my freedom back to set there that you shoot me and kill me in the street, because I'm not I don't have a fight on so choices I've got. I'm taking the ladder. All I'm saying is you're a different breed. And I know a lot of people. I know people that right now without rather die than shoot some money and go to jail. No I know, I'm saying that

on the streets on videotape. Obviously it ain't been that much over this pandemic because people have been moving around. A woman could be standing there being beaten by any man, police officer or not. And I see I see brothers all the time. They just look at it and they don't do ship. And I'm and you're right, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying there are those who would and his sisters too. Is we're not just trying to am the brothers. The sisters need fire arms too, the whole family.

Because if somebody being you or you pull that gud out of this conversation changed it, you know what I'm saying. So these women definitely need to be all yeah, I agree. So Trump threatened to put military on us, more military on protesters because he said that the governors weren't doing a good job of controlling protests. Um this weekend amazing, amazing, amazing.

In Washington, d C. Where Mary Muriel Browser is the mayor, she decided to change the street that leads to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and one of the actual street names, and she put black Lives Matter. He's the Black Lives matterway on the street, and then black Lives Matter was painted where every time Trump has to look out the window, that's what he sees. So people are doing some bold

things across the country. And I feel like this idea that all we're gonna send the military and least have been militarized. They've been militarized exactly in in the militarization of police. That is an actual demand that we have been a part of with many groups and led by the Gathering for Justice and Justice League in terms of pushing. In fact, we marched two hundred and fifty miles from New York City to Washington, d C. Around the ending

the militarization of police. So just sending out more troops, that's really all you're doing. And I bet you he was pissed to see that some of the truths were actually dancing in the street to the electric slide with the people, because even they know this is a bunch of bullshit. The bottom line is, man, when you have your moral compass, tells you the truth, you know, and

I don't care where you were, I don't care. At some point where you're just a good person, you just can't do evil, and you know in things that a little quarter to your nature. So that's what happens. We're seeing officers, we've seen all mean people. We're seeing people in different fields of government and law seeing to themself like this is the time that I realized what's going on, and I'm not going to allow my job, you know, all my career to affect or go against my moral compass.

So they're speaking up and they're standing with the people. I appreciate you. Yeah, I do too, you know. And then a lot of stuff has been happening, like the Minneapolis Police Department is now they they actually voted today and released that they're going to defund police. We've got a problem. Like the craziest shit I've ever heard is that the City of New York it's planning to um disband or at least, uh, not so much reduced what's the word I'm looking for. They are going to suspend

summer youth jobs. But the budget for police has been maintained and in some instances increase. Like you, I'm trying to tell you how it works. This is what the government does. Because when you when you look at this pandemic and you look at how it's paid dollars, you look at that they give us twelve dollars. Right when you get offered this pandemic in another two months, in two weeks, you're going to realize to yourself that you do not have enough money to sustain because the twelve

dollars was good. They suspended most of your bills. So you know, they pushed it all. Okay, you don't gotta pay for two, do it once you good. So what's gonna happen is people have lost their jobs. We had the highest you know, unemployment rate in almost history, matter of fact, in history. And when in three months people gonna realize what's happening because the bills don't come back, then you know, they're they're not pushing it back and crime is going to go up. And they nderstand that.

They understand that it's gonna be a higher level of crime. So they're like, we can't just really just get all the way with the police, you know, because we if you cut some of you with were these kids gonna get some money? You know? This is this is how these kids survived. They go to some of youth, they get their little checks by a little closed you know, having a little fun. So now what they're supposed to

do to survive. So this is a plain situation here, Like we know that crime is about the rise of you know, when all of those those pushbacks and you can hold off for three months until you pay. Now, when that third moe coming, people ain't gonna income. It's

gonna be serious. Yeah, that's why I kept paying my bills and struggling to do it, but I did because our we get our money from speaking, like we get our money from going across the country speaking on different programs, and somehow another people decided that zooms we're like free, yeah, which there was ninety percent free from me, so you got were eighty percent free from me. I had twenty

percent of people actually paying something for Zoom conversation. But basically we didn't make any money over these last three months, and so I don't know how I did it, but I was committed to paying my bills because that whole suspension of your bills is not real it in most cases, it just put the rest of the bill in three months, like you still had to pay. So you're right, people are gonna be out here in Trumble and they're gonna need the police, and they need but it depends, right,

because I don't know. I feel like, on one hand, yes, they need the police, but I also think what they need and I think that's my frustration with America, whatever that is. It's like, no, actually, you don't necessar certainly need police. What you need to do is have balance

because they and they talk about looting. And what we I saw a Daily d S post that's like the biggest looting scheme that has ever happened, is that fifty billion dollars went to corporations in a similars package, and as you just talked about, twelve hundred dollars went to individuals. So if it was balanced where the corporations had to take less, so that the people, the American public could actually get more than maybe people wouldn't be in such

and a place of such desperation. So I feel like you said in the march that you did in the Bronx with thousands of people showed up, and these are our march t shirts that say we all, we got well, we need you, we got we all, we need um. Thousands of people coming together. It's like, Yo, we don't even need the police to help us with this march. We're good. You can. We can protect ourselves. UM. The Hasidic Jewish community, we see it. We see them police

in their community, UM supporting their community. And so I think it is a strategy that we could actually use. And then not to mention that other people know they know and elected officials and otherwise that that's not a community you want to play around with because they're they're going to vote and or use their voices to influence whatever needs to be done so that their communities can be protected. M any right. And I think that that pushes us into our next topic about police in our

own community. When you look what happened to George Floyd, you know, it's a classic example of why we need to you know, when when we we police our own community, we deal with our brothers or compassion with a level of understanding, you know, whatever the situation giving the community,

try to figure it out, you know. And that's a club when you look at the situation with a classic example of people who just had disregard for our community, disregard for black life, disregard for black body, for a black man, you know. And it's so much talk. There's been so much talk. You know, I think George Floyd, he tipped the scales, you know. I think it was

just we just needed one thing. I've been saying today that he was the cherry on the cake, you know, the ice and was I was I as being put in slavery, you know, by the by the slave master. And then after we was released from slavery had to oversee it, you know. And then after and that was the second layer of the cake. And then the third layer of the cake was the officer, you know, and I think the ice and was all the brothers and sisters we lost throughout the regardens of the even Rodney King.

Just the situation of watching how police have would have they have done to us? And I think I'm a Aubrey had you right there? And then George Floyd just tip the scale man. So the cake was full, man, And so it's time. It's time for us to eat. And so you can't have your cake, you need to you know, we don't want to have this cake. It's time to eat this cake and get rid of it. Man. So I think when we look at this situation and people talk about George Floyd, is you know why we're

taken up for him? He had a criminal record, He's done things that you know, he wasn't a good person. He's not somebody to take up for. So, so where does black lives matter to you? When you say that, does black lives matter me? Only black lives of people who are professional, only black lives of perfect black people, or only black lives of people that you deemed to

be their lives to be worthy. It's not every black life, you know, it's not a black life of the average person who has made mistakes, you know, who who's been through ups and downs, who's to found themselves in situation. So those people's lives don't matter to you. Those black

lives are not worth us dying for. Just because he might have had a pass that wasn't squeaky clean, it was okay for somebody to sit on his neck with their knee until he couldn't breathe and as he screamed for his his mother, Like, so this is what So when you say that this is not the person, he's not the person that we should be champion my way, we we we champion behind black Black lives matter, needs,

all black lives matter. So we watched the black man being choked to death for for something that wouldn't even amount to a crime, that was never even pool. So when people say that, I'm just so confused. Man. You know, the same leaders that we praise mircoelm Max used to be read. You know, you know, we all evolved from something, we all come from something I was in jail I spent seven years in prison of my life. You know, even for a crime you don't know. You don't know

the dynamics of that man crime. You just see what he said on payer, but you don't know what that man. You don't know if those cases are even true. You have no idea, So the reality situations for you to make a judgment or whether a man should live or not, or whether he should be champion for or or people should kid that he died because he has a criminal record or something that you deemed that is not you know, respectful for you? Who are you? Who the hell are you?

Who the hell are you to tell us that we who we could chimp? Who the hell are you to tell us who we can fight for? Who the hell are you to tell us who's gonna make the change from black lives? Whoever you think he is. George Floyd was the person that woke this world up. And I'm gonna celebrating for that. I say, you say icing on the cave, I think that's too positive. I say, the straw that broke the camel's back. And you know I've been saying that the back of the camera was already weak.

It was already broken. Basically, it was already bloody, it was already bruised, and yeah, you know now it's been cracked to the point where it just can't move anymore. The camera was down, and that would be America. It's gotta change. It's like, there's no more begging. They it's a little more crying about it. There's no more meetings. We don't need any more hearings. We need get the ship done. Like, get it done. There is a way to stop police from being able to kill people without

have without being health accountable. You know what you do hold them accountable. So they were like, oh, well, you know, to Meka, you're a leader and you you shouldn't be calling on Joe Biden right now because we gotta get Trump out. Fuck that. I don't want to hear that. My position is, if Joe Biden wants to be president and he can't answer the little questions that we have and the demands that we have, then I might as well have Trump as the president because I'm dealing with

the same thing. One person that's completely crazy and out of his mind and another person that's gonna be a closet racist. So I need you to show me you're my ally. When I scream out, and I called that when the baby cries out, the baby is not mad at the parents. The baby is not doesn't hate the parents, but the baby is saying there needs to be attention put on this issue. And so when we're calling out saying we want to hear from Joe Biden, that doesn't

mean that we support Trump. Who the hell like We've been fighting against Trump, And I think, yeah, I think it's disrespectful for people to try to make it seem like just because we're demanding things of a Biden that somehow that makes us on what they said, They said I was being uh it was something. It was a word they used. They said I was being uh naive and irresponsible. That I would that I would, I would think that in this moment we should be challenging. This

isn't exactly the moment. My sister teslin Um, who's a great leader, said she she used to be with the Bernie Sanders campaign and she said, oh, this is the moment people mad at puff. Oh you know puff, he this is the wrong time. It probably would have been better if he would have said something about um, you know, the voting issue, and and and and and holding our vote hostage, if you will, when there were more people running and we had options where we can kind of

play around and figure out who's the best person. But hey, it didn't happen at that time. It happened at the moment when we're in that we're in, and it needs to happen because we are tired of being given these boogeyman choices. Well you know, if you don't, if you don't do this, and that person is going to get all. I mean, you know, we freaking want Trump. I don't want Trump to be left again. But I know one

thing what we have ain't working. And and what I mean by what we have is I'm talking about the d n C and these entities that you know, just they don't give you much, but they ask everything. It's the fact. So you're right listen to me. I'm with you, man, And I wanted first of all, I want to commend you on probably having the greatest speech of you know, this if of modern history. You know, behind like I have a dream, you know what I'm saying, Like it's

being compared up there with that man. The words that you said. I was just grateful to be in the building, you know at that press conference when you came from your heart and you spoke about how black people have been treated in this country and and how fed up we are. You know, they're not many times that we have in history that are are monumental, and this is a monumental time. That was a monumental speech. So for

you know, commend you live on our platform. Street politicians, If you have not heard that speech, then you need to go google it or you probably under the rack somewhere. You know it was THENG. The bottom line is this, I've heard you say that a thousand times. I've listened to me. I've heard you say speeches that I didn't understand why the world ain't here before I heard you saying speech yesterday that probably rival that one. You know what I'm saying. So the bottom line is, I know

what it is that you do. But I'm just glad that you're actually getting recognition that the world is able to see what you see. You know what I see with us until freedom seen with so many of us have been there, you know, have been with you from the beginning, who have followed your leadership have been able to see for you know, for years. So I'm just glad that you're getting recognition. And in a couple of hours is gonna be a birthday, you know what I'm saying.

So you know, give you a little give you a little shut up, and we've got to give people their flowers, right they're here because most of the times people don't get their flowers. Man, So I just want to say we appreciate you. At the point that we are actually filming this piece, I'm we're recording it. I am turning forty years old, uh in a few hours from now, So by the time you see it, I'll already be forty. It will already be on our way to forty one. Like time goes by so fast. But you know, on

that speech, you know how I do. When I gotta do a speech, I shut to everybody out. I don't want to talk. I got brity down. I need to go over it. I need to make sure and check with my historians, make sure my messages right, my historian Mark Thompson, that's my go to person. I get a few kick punch lines from you, and I get my

political inspiration from Linda. I checked my media references with Rachel, and I might get a gut feeling for my mama and daddy about whether or not what I'm saying is good. Oh and then finally, finally my child says, my ain't nothing that cool, like you sound whack. So I get I gotta I gotta a process that I go through what I'm doing speeches. But by the time we made it to the press conference with Jamie Fox, was that it was led by um uh, I'm sorry Steenson, Stephen Jackson.

I was about to say, Stephan jack I'm anyway, Stephen Jackson, who I now just loved because I see the commitment and he's a friend of um right, he's a friend of George Floyd's a very good friend of his. And you know, I was like, I don't know, I felt like I just at the time that we got there, no one had been arrested. We found out that Chauvin was being arrested during the press conference, But arriving there,

we were like, what, like, there's nothing happening. It's been days and there's still nothing happening for George Floyd and no one is being held accountable. So I was just speaking from my heart. I was just speaking from my heart. I was saying what I believed to be true, and it just so happened that I I, through the grace of God, articulated the feeling, the collective feeling of black

people in America. And um, I was in the CEO of the President and CEO of Urban League, Mark Mariel said to me, you were just explaining it, just explaining it and that and that was so powerful because it's the truth. I was just explaining American history and how when you start trying to talk to us about looting, like what we've been looted as a people, and all this violence we've learned, this violence from America, you know. And and and I said something about Targeting Auto Zone.

You know, I spoke about these corporations, and then Target put out a statement saying, and I don't know if I had anything to do with it, but they put out a statement saying that they were going to provide resources to the processes. So, you know, I'm grateful to God for using me as a vessel to speak truth to power. I did what I've always done. But because I feel and I I a truely, deeply believe that I'm a free black woman because I'm not funded by

any of these people. I'm not funded by any of these moves, these these you know, we did that at the Women's March. Even though we didn't have corporate money, we were still funded by a powerful group of individuals and a lot of white women, to be clear. And now we're getting a dollar to dollars, three dollars, four dollars from black people. And for my birthday, I launched a campaign where people could give to Until Freedom UM four dollars forty dollars or four hundred dollars for my

fortieth birthday. And I'm I'm so appreciative of the investment, as you always say, the investment that folks are making to to to to be with us, to work with us, and to be a part of this freedom fighting agenda together. So so yeah, if you want to, if you want to make an investment and on behalf of tniques birthday or four dollars forty dollar, four hundred dollars, you can go follow us at until Freedom on Instagram. We have

a million links there. But if you want to make an instant one is Dallas sign Until Freedom of cash at that you can send too at this right now, but well, as you hear it, you be type it, you know, because that's what it is, is investment in freedom. Man, If you don't believe that we're going to get the freedom that you want or we're gonna fight with every out of us to get the freedom, and don't invest in us. We don't want We don't take donations because

we don't want charity. We don't want you to feel like you're given us something. We want you to feel like you are invested in the same freedom that we are invested in. So you know, and www dot until freedom dot com. That's www dot until freedom dot com. And I think I'm old school because I still say w w W people don't say w w N. But until freedom dot Com is where you can go to get all the details on how you can donate or invest. And listen, I'm new school. Cash at work so fast

that it breaks. Don't worry about it if you if you don't didn't, you can go to because because Benmo was there, that's until Freedom Okay, So either way, anyway, so listen, I think we're done for today. But the next topic that we have to have and we're gonna have to guests on is to talk about Brianna Taylor. We've got to talk about Brianna Taylor because because I just want to just give a little bit of because we found out about George Floyd, because we were down

there for Brianna Taylor. You know, we were in Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville, Kentucky, aproach. We were celebrating actually Brianna Taylor all Memorial Day. We did a memorial for her with her family, you know, and then we actually went and then we demanded that the officers be arrested. We did a press conference the next day and in the interim we had to go to UM where do we have to go to? Uh?

Indianapolis because the police death police killings in twenty four hours in which a pregnant woman was ran over Sean Reid, the guy that you all see on videotape driving and LIFA chasing him. And then you see the officer leaning into the camera when he which he doesn't know he's being filmed, and he says something like, you know, I guess this won't be an open casket or something terrible.

That happened, UM, and that was in Indianapolis, and we were there and that's when we learned, as you were saying, had lots of his life and we drove ten I was in the middle of tonight straight over there to Minneapolis, and the things I've seen here was just it was like award zone. But we're here, so we're we're We're definitely gonna talk about Beyond the tailor next time. If you don't know, I have an album out. I got

a book that's out. Um it's called I Know My It um mcbrid Publishing is one of my is a children's book. I love it is the number one seller. Thank you for the people who are supporting me from making number one seller. It's on Amazons and number one

sell on Amazon, and we appreciate you man. And if you can go get it album so not for sale, the album is out, you can go get that, um and just for me, just and talk support off until freedom and we all we got, we all we need and and and just so folks know, while I'm always you know, working with my brother and we're gonna be doing street politicians forever because we got something shipped to

say and we want people to hear it. But also I have a show with Jamility Davis and Yandy Smith, Harris and our friends called talk over To and that's really the ladies coming together to to really kind of delve into um, all that's happening from a woman. It's perspective, from a woman's perspective, from some strong black woman's voices and our perspectives. And so you'll hear about talk over

To and we want you to tune into that. Um. You know again, the next time you hear from us, it will be a special, a special on Brianna Taylor. Will be bringing her lawyers, will be bringing her mother, her best friend. Because we are not going to stop until we see justice for Brianna Taylor. There will not be a woman at this point at this time that we received less attention from the media and from our people and from all people. UM as we have seen

with so many movements in the past. Brianna Taylor was murdered in her home. It's wrong, um. She was murdered for no reason at all, and it has to be dealt with. So I want to say thank you, oh

first of all, before we even do that. Marciana has gotta be something that you don't get, because you never get anything you don't get well, don't get What I don't get, right, was if we've seen the video where the police officer pushed the seventi year old man who hit his head on the ground, and then another officer stopped him from picking up a man as his head

was bleeding. You know, the officers got charged, The officers got charged with a level of assault, they lost their jobs, and then when they was coming out of the courtroom, there were people supporting them. There were people clapping for them. I don't get how your humanity allowed you to clap for that situation. I don't get. And most of those were officers, and I would I think, what we need

to do. It's fine the name of all of those officers, because those officers are not fit to work for the police. They are not fit to police, you know, um protect and served. And I just really didn't get it. I've watched that scene a bunch of times. I watched the man hit the ground, I watched this head bleeding. I watched officers walk by him. I watched one of them said don't touch him. I watched them just ignore this man as blood gush from his head, this elderly man,

and these people actually applauded that. They applauded that. So there's a level of evil within this system that I just don't get. I don't think it's ever been in my heart. I don't think it can ever be in my heart. There's something going on, and we need something different because this system as it is, it's just not right and I just don't get it. Yeah, and you know, we don't a few good cops. I'm not gonna say there are no good cops. There are some. Edwin Raymond

and the NYPD twelve. They are an example in New York of officers who are really trying to fight back and fight back against the system. So I think there are some good cops. So where we see that officers actually like protesting, and I think it was like a hundred officers that decided that they were going and to push back against um. These officers being held accountable for

their actions and being reprimanded. It's sort of debunks this whole conversation about good cops because we're still trying to figure out where they are. And if you if you're silent, if you're so quiet that we can't hear you, then I don't I don't really know that those are good cops at all, so or that the system, I think, the system of white supremacy, of racism, of everything that

we see really overshadows good cops. And until officers begin to step in take control, uh perform uh citizens arrest or officers arresting officers, officers maybe having to draw their guns on other officers. Like that's the place that we're at right now. It's not a passive movement. It's not an old one. I see you, sis, I'm gonna let you know. I'm cop numbers some are so so badge number whatever, and I'm with you not like lives have

to be saved. And if you're standing by why people are being murdered, then you become just like those officers who stood by and watch Chauvin put his knee in George Floyd's neck and, as Attorney Bencromp says, torturing him to death and kill him. And they weren't that innocent because they had their knees in his back as well. But they also could have stopped it and said enough is enough. And so they have now been charged and

they should be. So that's my position, you know, Thank you so much look, one thing, we disagree on everything. If there were many we could we could be we could be talking about any issue, doesn't matter what it is. We disagree. But one thing we agree on is black folks and our freedom. And we agree around this police accountability issue. And so, um, I guess maybe there's a turns of the tides in terms of our discussions for the next few months as we lead towards an election,

and maybe we won't disagree all the time. Now we ain't got time. We ain't gotta time to disagree. Right now, black folks is getting their asking, so we gotta agree about that, man. And you know we love us. We I know that we love us like nobody else. So I appreciate that. You know, we'll fight about something like something's gonna come up. We'll be fighting, but listen to me,

we gotta go. Let's meek enjoy her birthday. We're definitely not gonna always agree, and I'm not gonna always be right, and she's not gonna always be wrong, but she is most time. But we're always going to be authentic. M That's how we own it.