Making Black Brands Mainstream with Delvin Carter

I feel better. It's more of like a sabbatical. It wasn't so much just the holidays, because then during the holidays, you're still holiday and you're going shopping, You're meeting people, You're you're you're entertaining, you're cooking stuff. I gotta make sure my mom and dad have what they need traveling in a little bit. This one has a party, that one has a party. I almost need to time that I just have to sit in the dark if I want and do nothing. But you know what, right now,

I'm feeling good. I'm back into it. We're getting you know, wrapped up and I think, use me, it's gonna be a really really good year. Well it better be man sejorgaye. Man, you know it's execution. Man. I'm glad to see you back to work, you know. Uh, but if you need it's abatico. You might need to take that. You know, you might need a little dunk room or something, just being there for a couple of weeks, not talking. Hide the phone, put it down, you know, put it away.

So you don't have no community, go to like an homage village. So you have so many suggestions. I will figure it out for myself. I don't need you to tell me listen, because I could just stay in my own house that they ain't gonna work because you're gonna grab your own phone. You're going the people in your house is gonna knock from downstairs, and but they're not going to because they're gonna know, don't bother me. Nobody cares about that. When you when you're able to be reached,

people gonna reach you. So I don't know why you think that's gonna happen, but you know that's neither hit on the man. Um A lot has been going on lately. Um. The other day we had a rally in the Bronx you know, young boy, fifteen year old Joe Sway or take a little Lopez lost his life. And the crazy thing about the young boy, he was coming from the p l M shot and you know he was he was on life support for a minute and then they said then anounced to brained in and didn't. Eventually he

lost his life. And another young boy who hasn't been named, who was sixteen, was also shot, but he didn't he survived, you know, with um with minor wounds and right fifteen and the other young man who was shot with sixteen. And the crazy thing about it, you know, Um, we were at the pl and we did the rally and the mother came out, um and she was just so distrought. It hurt my heart, you know, just seeing her just

falling down to the ground crying for her son. She snatched the picture and took him and you know it was a lot, man, and it's and it never gets easier when we watch, you know, mothers lose their children, know that they have to bury their children, Know that forever they have this feeling of them losing something that was inside of them, they birthed that they pretty much their organs produced like the the the organs inside the baby.

It comes from the mother. Literally, this is a second version of her, you know, and understanding that it is just crazy. But what was even more crazy for me was so yesterday I went to a funeral for another young boy from the community at high Bridge who lost his life. You know, did call him Jelly, you know, um he lost his life in a car accident. And while I was there to pay my respects, one of the people that I know from the community said, Hey, I've seen you at the rally. You know, that was

Eileen's son, you know, Eileen, that's his mother, Eileen. And I couldn't understand it was Eileen. You know. Eileen used to be with Dizzey, who was my sister's best friend, and she used to be in the house with those two boys all the time. And I was like, and then it clicked into my head and I remember Aileen like she was because Dizzey was a good friend of mine who I frequented a house all the time, and Eileen used to be in there with these two little boys,

you know, and they were real younger. And when you say fifteen, this is around you know, fourteen, fifteen years ago when I had first came home from prison, you know, so knowing that this young little wood who I shared spacewood and I played with, took to the store, used to buy a little you know, toys for them, give them money to go to the store, lost his life and I didn't even realize it. You know, was really

touched me in a different way. Man. So I want to some I love about to the mother, to the parents of the family and and just say, man, we're here for you. Man. It just was a lot. Man, just just see in that situation. Yeah, that mom, that was so heartbreaking. Wow, fifteen years old. She has a sixteen year old child. Also she will not deceased, but her fifteen year old baby. It was just really sad. I mean, it's nothing else you can say. We know

the issues. We could sit here all day and talk about gun violence and what it does and how it you know, rips communities and families and all of that. We already know. And there's a lot of work that's happening across the country where people are responding. I thought the one great thing that I would say in a it's a terrible situation. There's no way to make light of it. But one thing I would say that made me proud is the work that we did so many

years ago. Um, you know, work that I was directly involved in many years ago, more than ten years ago, has materialized to so many groups showing up and being present. So when people say, you know, where's the protests and where's the organizing around gun violence? You know, I know a lot of it is trolling and they know that the truth and they just say it anyway. But there's

some people who really don't know. And I just encourage folks get involved with your local grassroots organizations that do that work because there are people out here that are fighting for um life. That's right. You shout out to a t shut out to all the organizations who are out there, guns down, sometimes getting new people. The official gun violence Czar New York. You know, so everybody who

came out there, man, we appreciate you all. President uh Gibson was there, Salamanca was there because we were so everybody that came out man, and in the PL, the officials inside the PL were very helpful to us. You know, we're looking forward to doing some work, you know, to try to curb the violence and just try to bring some level awareness, awareness, you know, in the community. So black people just can't get a break, and we just

cannot get a break. Sixty five year old woman Betty Smith was in this store called the um Litterman's Grocery and she found the fifty out of bill. So she's at the counter, fifty out of bill on the floor. She picks it up, so look, it's my lucky day. She shows it to the person at the registers. She's like, Oh, you're not leaving here with that. You're gonna give me that? It might be my friends he was here earlier. Now she's the only one in the store. She looked like,

I ain't giving you nothing. I don't find this you. You ain't getting no fifty dollars back from no black woman, the old black woman behind the register. The person behind the register. Yeah, that ship told you're not leaving here with that. You're gonna give it to me because it could have been my friends. She took. Listen, now, I wish you do you think I was? She like, I wish I would. Man. You know how much buddy, these people that are took for me, you know much money?

I spit it here and I've probably got me a little break. You know, this is the because when we find money, we say the guard that said it to that's the That's so she tries to leave the store, she calls managers everything. They locked the lady in the store, snatched the fifty dollar our hand. When she goes to try to to get it, put some the choke call, she said, they call it all times of all kinds of black bitches, this and that, you know it was,

it's this grace. And then the daughter shows that after a while to try to get in there, and they arrest the daughter. They said she assaulted. And when you can see like one of the I guess one of the people who work in there in the front like trying to stop the daughter from trying to get in, and she like pushes up and the police woke up. As soon as you push her. The first thing they do is grab her. They don't ask you questions, they

don't say nothing. They grabbed her and arrest her. And this lady is basically being held hostage for fifty dollars that she found. And it's just like, you know, we just we just can't get a break. Man. I don't know what the rules and regulations are for all of this. But I would imagine, well, first of all, don't tell anybody if you find money, you just put it in

your pocket and keep it moving. We all know that, But I don't know if it dry, if it was found inside of someone's establishment, who owns it, I don't know. I don't know who is Actually we should ask the lawyer about that. Speaking of lawyers, UM, first of all, I hope that woman is okay, but you know spe and her daughter. But speak of lawyers, I am working on a show for Street politicians where we have different attorneys to come together to talk about some of the

legal issues of two um, you know, lawyers from different perspectives. Obviously, our friend Brian Benjamin was the Lieutenant governor of New York State. UM. And he also was you know, had a great re election or any election bid because he was appointed to that position. But then it was going to be elected into the position. And some scandal that I think was manufactured unfortunately by government officials alongside a man who anyways, a long story. People will learn more

about it. Um. They you know, really really try to ruin Briant's life. And now, of course the case part of the case, the most important part of the case, has been dropped and which is is is unheard of with the Feds just dropping cases, which we see in a lot of that starting to happen, um, And I wonder what that means in terms of the integrity of

how the FEDS are working. And by the way, it could be the lack of integrity in the past, where there is now more integrity because of what we have fought for and therefore some of these cases that used to be open and shut because of the corruption and everything else are not open and shut anymore. So that's a different way to look at it, right, UM, So

him you know his case. I want to talk about the legal ease and around that would like to hear from some folks who understand or who agree with the Tory Lanes verdict and people who don't you know, other I'm talking about legal folks, legal minds, not just people who are lawyers that are paid to go out and say one thing or the other, but people who really have opinions that, um, you know, can help us to

explore all the different sides of these issues. And I think we should put on it asking the question if your money falls in a store or even in somebody's house and a person walks by and picks it up. Who owns it? Somebody's house? And I think that's way different. The store might be the same. I think it's only outside. Well who if something, if money is felt on the floor inside, Who's to determine that it belongs to? Who? I don't know? But we should ask, right, We should

certainly ask. So that's that's one of the things that I think should be on the list. I mean, and folks should actually reach out to us and tell us about issues that you want to hear us cover. Um. And you know this this legal analysis moment that we'll be having with these different attorneys. Actually I wanted to do my thought of the day, but it is too extensive. But I think that when we come back next week,

we need to really delve into the AP course. I mean, we talked about it last week and I had the perspective and we discussed the perspective on the AP course that's been banned in Florida. Um, we talked about it from a perspective of what we think the real true reasons are for why they want to ban those that course or that that course work right that curriculum. But then since we had that last week, we were just talking about what I know white people be doing. White

people ship. So that was last week, this and then not just white people but racist white people. This week we've had the opportunity to look through the curriculum. I've posted a bunch of stuff. But now that we have looked through the curriculum and have more to discuss, I would like for us to talk about and really kind of explore some of the issues that have come up with black folks who agree with the band because of

things that they don't like in the curriculum. So today is not a good day to talk about it because we don't have the time to really get into it. But certainly next week, and in fact, I go as far as saying that perhaps we need to, um, you know, at some point pull in some professionals that could really talk about this whole issue. With that said, let's get to our guests. I'm excited about this guest because you know, he's supposed to be the hot hot So let's go

see what he what he what he got hot? So today we have a special guest in the in the spirit of Black History Month. You know, I've been on all black businesses supporting black um business owners, shoe brands in particular, and this has come to be one of my favorites. You know, his the quality, the style, everything about his brand is just amazing. We have the the Great Devil and Carter the owner of Side Collective, which stands for somewhere in America. How you doing today, King,

I'm doing good. How you doing? Um Man, I'm blessed and holly favorite. You know, it is Black History Mom, so we want to we want to really spread this black owned businesses and support our own. You know, um you were one of the main people when I decided this campaign that I wasn't buying the more Nikes. Your brand was the first person in my inbox. Everybody's like,

you gotta get side, you gotta get sided. And it's from you know, people that I really respected, and I must say many they definitely didn't steer me wrong, man, So I definitely wanted to say I appreciate especially the quality and you know, and the uniqueness is you know, it's a lot of different brands, and there's a lot of black owned businesses, but there's a level of quality and you have your own unique style that I just want to appreciate. Man, So, so what made you start

doing this? How long have you been doing it? Okay? So um I started doing I started with sneaker customizing. So when I was nineteen, I went to Queensboro Community College in Queens, New York, and I met a dude that was painting his Jordan's and he showed me how to like paint my Jordan's different colors. He wasn't telling

nobody else. So I used to just walk around with my Jordan's painted different colors, and people like when you get black and yellow doing from And I used to always use this line because my sister was in the army. It's like my sisters in the army in Germany, they just get different colors than us. Because the Internet wasn't popping like it was. You know, we talked and uh so that's how it started. And then a few years later,

other people started figuring out and painting their Jay's. So then I was like, I gotta do something that they can't do. So I was like, my mom always was the seamstress, she always made clothes. I was like, what if I used my talent and like my gift for being able to pick fabrics and start putting fabrics on shoes, and that's what I started doing. In like two thousand, two thousand and one, I started doing a lot of rappers videos, doing the Gucci Air Force ones and all

of those type of things. And that's when I started making enough money where I had then got into owning my own barbershop. Did that for about ten years, and then at twenty five, I just said, you know what, I didn't make it rich in fashion like I told my sister I would, so I said I would give the military a try. So in two thousand and three, I joined the United States Coast Guard. I did that for eleven years, and just in my last year. You know, I have kids, I'm moving around every four years, and

I'm not with my kids mom. So then I have to live in New York and their mom's living in California, and I'm just like, nah, this is not how I pictured fatherhood to be. So I said, Instagram is out. I'm seeing all these guys customer sneakers and making a lot of money. I was doing it for one fifty getting a thousand, So I said, you know, what, I'm gonna just put all my time into showing them I'm

really that guy can really do dope customs. So I just started doing new customs every day, taking shoes fully apart, remaking up with snakeskin, alligate, all that cool stuff. And I started making more money at doing that than my military salary. So I said, you know what, I'm gonna get out and I'm actually gonna go to fashion school and really be you know that that that thing to my daughters when I say, yo, you can do whatever

you want if you put your mind to it. But if I never been the dad that go and give up a whole career nine years short of retirement and trying it, then I feel like I would be a hypocrite telling them to chase their dreams if I never chase line. So I got out of the Coast Guard and I went to the Fashion Institute of San Francisco, graduated with honors, and from there open my own boutique. The pandemic causes to close that down, and I just went direct to consumer. Wow. Wow, So I'm hearing so

many amazing things from you as a black man. It makes me, as a black woman, just feel so full just to hear you talk about you know, ownership of course, you know, entrepreneurship. Then whatever was necessary. If you needed to go to the coast Guard and get a job, you had to go do that, which means you meant you also served our country. Um. Then you talked about you know, fashion schools, so every step of the way you were very intentional about this moment that you're in

right now. So many of our young people think they can just pop up a shop and start selling things. And it's not just young, it's a lot of people that do not understand the brind and the hustle and the steps and the fact that you had to go in different directions to come to the place here in now and with an ultimate goal of being a stable father who had access to being you know, with his children at all times. I think it's an incredible story.

And you know I have heard um, you know, over and over from people, you know when we're when you know, folks always come to me like why has my song throwing out all his sneakers? Everything he does? The people call me and you know talk about him and ask me what you think can you stop him? Like tell him he you know, they always do that, and um, you know you always come up, Sia, the brand comes up all the time as being like the hot brand.

So you know, congratulations on that. Tell us the steps in terms of not not you know, I know, the career steps, but in terms of how you actually your brand front and center. What was that like? Okay, So when um, when I had got out of when I graduated college, then um, I'm a I'm a super homebody, you know, like I don't all of that nightlife stuff and all of that. It just doesn't do it for me. It's like it's my kids and my passion. That's my

day to day. So when I wanted to start, sayah, a meme was going around on Instagram and it was Steve Jobs, um, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, all of these guys started their company in their garage and they grew to be multimillion dollar and their multibillion dollar companies. So when I seen that meme, I I screenshot at it and I told my kids, I said, look, you see

these guys they started in their garage. Watch I'm gonna build a multimillion dollar company from our garage and the garage that where I lived at I was paying rent. I wasn't a homeowner yet. So and I built. We stopped parking our cars in the garage. I built all

the shelves, the computer, the system and everything. And I said, I'm gonna start a brand that's literally Director Consumer because us I learned in school that Director Consumer was going to be what the market was going to start changing into. And this is before the pandemic, and the pandemic just

really just jet said it that forward. So I said, if I could build the straight to consumer, what I can then do is I can give higher quality being that I don't have a whole seller and I don't have to pay somebody else to sell my stuff if I'm ready to put the work in and do the work myself. As of now, we've made over fifty million dollars and I haven't paid for one advertisement yet. Like,

I just wanted to build something organically. And I knew from being a customizer, if I was dedicated and if I would show the people that my passion and my dedication, and I would teach my customers because one thing I always do is teach them. I'm like, look this, this this hoodie you're buying for three hundred dollars. This is this is like eight d G s ms. This is the lightest way you can get. This is cheap, and you're paying this price. You gotta go four hundred and

d G s ms. I'll pull out the books, I'll pull out the Pantone coach because I feel like, no matter what, as long as I'm teaching, somebody is going to be that X person that's gonna be like Because I may not make it to be the greatest black design or whatever or brand. It may be the kid that I've been tutoring and mentoring to do that. But as long as one of us do it and we can continue to make that, then then that would be

what it is. But one thing that, like you said, these people don't understand you can't just pop up and have a brand. One thing people don't know when I got out of them, I was in the military. I got out a year left on my contract because we had a family hardship, so I had to pay and move myself. Usually the military will move you from where

you're at to your new location. I had to pay for it because it was a hardship, so I lost all my savings account moving from New York to California to then um put down enough to get enough, you know, too much rent, two months security and all of that to move. And then at the time I was doing great in New York, I had a Mercedes that I was paying nine hundred dollars school with my my stuff,

and then my apartment was thirteen hundred dollars. When I got out of the Coast Guard, I had thirteen hundred and fifty dollars to my name. So and I'm in California, have no family here. So I said one thing I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna fail. And I said too, I will never ever allow myself to be this low in life where I'm this close to being homeless. So what I had did to get out of that. I always taught people how to customer shoes. I've always been

a teacher. So I used to have this die that you can die at the bottom of like rubber shoes, like join the Levins, and it would change from pink to yellow to whatever color you wanted. And that die went viral, and I was selling that die for twenty five dollars for like a half an ounce, but a half hours could do like six pair of shoes, so other customizer was buying it for me charge of seventy five dollars new people's shoes. I was making fifty grand

a month off of a die. I was making in my sink right, So with the money from that die, what I did was I remember that. I said, listen, I am never gonna go back to this point. So even when I was making a lot of money, I lived like I was broke. I was eating top rhymen. I would only eat a good meal like shrimp steak on a Friday. I was eating like I was a

poor college kid. And I'm just sitting there stacking the money, stacking the money because one thing I've known throughout my whole life is that nobody is really gonna finance your dream. When you're ready for that dream and you're ready to do that, you can get a hundred thousand dollars of school loans, but your press is not gonna finance your business freedom Like they're not gonna give you the money that's gonna take if you say, hey, I want twenty

tho dollars. I see the storefront, I want to put my clothes in there. I know what's gonna sell out. I have good sell through on my website. When I do this, they're gonna be like, oh no, we just don't see it. Because if you give somebody twenty dollars, they can pay that back in the month. You give my hundred thousand dollars, you owe them for life, so

they have your leverage. I never gave up my leverage through this whole journey, and that's one thing that I would love to let other entrepreneurs know that's coming up. You got to be ready for those sacrifices. You have to know that that this is what it's going to take. Like these companies are not going to give you a loan, right, So if you know that, then you can prepare yourself to never be in that situation where you need to hand out to to believe to to to get out

what you actually believe in. That's real. I say that all the time, and it's it's a mind state we have. We have a mindset that we are so attached to the structure in the system that we don't even believe. And when I made the decision that I wasn't wearing nikes, that's what it was for me. You know, it was something that you know, the the guy said, the night guy from Nike, and it reson. It made me just feel a way, and I was like, really, it really bothered me. And I was like, damn, I got hundreds

of pair of Nikes, man, I want to say. And then I said to myself, why do I feel like I'm attached to these sneakers? Why do I feel like this? I can't get out of this brand because they've been doctrinated me into some ship that I don't even want to be a part of. But I feel, well, I brought these sneakers, so I have to deal with the disrespect and all of this ship that comes with it

because I'm attached to a brand. So what I want to ask you is what was the process like for you getting people to to buy into your bread Because people are so indoctrinated into you know, the Nike this and that. How how hard have you seen just transitioning your your own black people to say, look, we got quality sneakers here too. Is do you see the process to where it's hard or is it is it? Is

it become easy? And what do you say? So in the beginning, like I told you, guys, I was customizing Nikes. I was taking Jordan's apart, making them look dope with real snake skin and real quality. So I built up my audience that way first. And then what became cool about that as my audience started turning on Nike. This is before Nike's done. Ay, I'm talking about like six years ago, they started telling me like, yo, why are you wasting your talent making Nike shoes look good? Where

you should make your own sneakers. And at the time, and I'm not gonna lie, I was kind offended, like me make my own steak. How I'm gonna make my own sneaker? Like I didn't even know that was a possibility, you know. So the good thing is that why it's also good to go to college. For the young kids listening on my profile, it says fit them graduate. So what happened was somebody else who graduated from FIDOM who's in manufacturing, seeing that and reached out to me saying, hey, brother,

I know you're you're a filom Alum. I'm also a filom Alum. I'm African American and I live in China. I could actually introduce you to factories and get your product me if you ever want to make your own sneakers. And then from there that's when the light took off. I was like, you know what, at the time, I'm a sneakerhead, so I'm in a sneaker community. I can hear all the complaints. We're tired of Jordan's going up in price, but the leather getting worse and it's not

real leather and it's not this. So I said, okay, there's a there's a niche market of people who actually want genuine leather dope shoes that you can still wear with jeans. Because the Nike shoes like Jordan's look good because we want them with jeans. But when you get the Lebrons and all these other shoes, they don't look good with jeans anymore. They're really straight performance monsters, right.

So being that now there's an avenue of people needing a sneaker that they can wear with jeans, and I said, you know what, I'm going to create that sneaker. And that's how it started with people seeing it and people doing reviews. And now they're comparing my first shoe that I designed to a nineties They're like, this is not even this is not even closed, like this quality is this qualities doing. I don't even know how he's summing

it for this price. You know, when I went on the breakfast Club, envy was like, literally, this shoe should be eighteen hundred dollars. So then more people started seeing it because they're like, Wow, this guy who buys all this you know, um designer is saying this shoe is a better quality by black men. That started making people

like come around and giving us a shot. And when they give you a shot and you live up to it, then and they're wearing something that nobody knows and they're walking in the streets and somebody say, yo, what shoes are you wearing? Those are fly? That's it because now you know you got on something dope. And then it's also like back in the nineties, Holley, New York, we

didn't want to look like nobody else. If you was at hall M, you would go to Brooklyn to get something that Hall M. Dudes wouldn't go to Brooklyn to get and so on and so forth. So it's like it's like having a little bit of still that New York and also still just being a people watching the people. Abserba what would your first I want to ask, what was the do you know the first shoe do you have? Yeah, it's called the V It's called the VV one, the Valor Victorian. I have it right here. So this was

the first shoe. We designed, this colorway and everything right, it's a nice it's a um it's a vege tan color, so it's a nice tan. And then the inside is a light pink. And I had did this shoe because I wanted in a new true color that women would also like. But also it was it was a dedication to my mom and my first daughter that passed away. So like on the box that had a message to my my first daughter telling her, you know, like daddy's

doing it, I'm doing everything. I came to your grave and told you I was gonna do when I got out the military. And then also my mom at the time, she was sick, so I had a birthday on the inside. So and the dope thing about the shoes when we sold it, I sold it at my boutique and I said, we're going back to the old way of doing stuff. The only way you could buy it is if you're at the store. And this first come, first served it's

no raffles, it's none of all that other stuff. Brother, And when we did that shoe the next day, we had a line around the corner. People flew in from China, New York, from all these different states online to buy that shoe. You. And from there it's been like I knew, I was, I made the right decision and I knew, like, yo, this is this is gonna go somewhere. As long as I continue to stay on message. Wow, that's amazing. And you know what I love about what you just said.

You actually, because you own your brand, because it is your creation and your design, you were able to customize it to what felt. Um, you know, like a spiritual connection for you. And that's something that we don't get when we're buying things from companies that don't know, understand nor respect us. Right, Like I don't want to buy a pair of sneakers that has you know, some other person outside of my community's family member and love one and story on it like I want to. I want

to experience that with my brothers and sisters, right. Um. So you know that's a powerful point. I have two questions. One is you mentioned your daughter condolences to you and family. How old was she when she passed away and how long ago was that? And then the second question is what's your team like, like who are all the folks that you have working with you because it sounds like you do a lot of one man in uh Okay. So my daughter, she was uh thirty one days before

turning one years old. I was I was with my first wife. I was in the Coast Guard and we were stationed in in Mississippi and Hurricane Katrina was happening. So when Hurricane Katrina happened, my um, my ex wife, she was from Oakland, so they moved her before the hurricane came and I was out in the ocean doing hurricane relief. But when we during her whole pregnancy, I just always was like, you know this this is also

my first chow ever. But I'm like, yo, your stomach is not to the you know, it's not big, Like I think there's something should be bigger than that. At the month that you are, I always thought something was all with that, But then my mom reashowed me like,

well when I had you, I barely had stomach. So, you know, when we got stationed back to California because of the hurricane to get out the way, she got a new doctor and they was saying that she wasn't making enough amniotic fluid, so they had to induce the labor five weeks early. Like everything was going good, My daughter was fine. I never knew she was even in

any danger of passing away until she passed away. Then they would tell us like, well, you know, she had this and she had that and these different things that they never told us. So it really hit and we were already separated at the time, so that made even harder, you know. Um, yeah, you know it was hard because like I got married, I didn't want a baby mother, you know, I wanted a wife, and I get it, and I get my I wanted a daughter. I got

a daughter, and God took her away. Like I thought it was unfair, Like I was so angry about that, you know. But but um, but you know, it's like everything happened for a reason. The stuff they was telling us afterwards, Like she would have been in pain, she probably would have never walked, So it kind of like, maybe not be so selfish about it, you know. And um, you know, but then I sit after that, I'm gonna dedicate everything I do to you, you know, So there's

no reason to be scared fearful. I have the guardian angel that's gonna make sure Daddy is good. Right. So um, after getting you know, after getting out of that, you know, and finally, like it still hurts, like because she was born in in September. Um, she died in September. She's born in October, so around that time, it's always a little you know, because I miss her. She would have been seventeen, So she would have been seventeen if she would have lived like her whole her whole life up

until now. Um. But yeah, you know. So she's my inspiration for why I do what I do, you know, And I always want to be just a great dad and somebody she could be proud of as a man, you know. So I keep those morals and those beliefs and everything that I know. I'm looking out for my angel, and I know she's proud because I've done it, you know, and I've done it with the help of my team. So here I have I just I just moved my

best friend from New York. I just moved her out here with her family, so I have her, have my assistant, Ashley have my code design who I graduated college with Danny here I got. I have like ten people that work here out of my house. I own two clothing factories in Pakistan where I have twenty two workers there. Um, so I have a team. And then I have my fulfillment center and in Colorado and it's about fourteen of them. So I have like a forty like closer forty man team.

But when it comes down to literally what we do on a daily basis designing, that's what I do. I wake up in the morning and me and Danny just designed all day because you know, we have to compete with those bigger guys and Nike. They might have twenty people in their design team, but they're not gonna put out as much work as me and Danny are gonna put out because we come here to do that. This is our baby. With them, they're just taking a check,

so the passion is different. They'll leave, get fired from Nike and work for under Armed the very next day, So it's just a check for them. For me, it's it's it's it's my family legacy. It's I have to be the guy to show like as far as I get then then there's no excuse for anybody behind me. Said, well, I can't get to that level because nobody's done it before me. But now you have somebody who was doing it. You have a guy with a shoe in the NBA

with no commercials. You you know, you have all of these things that you can't use that as an excuse anymore. That's dope. So you know, during the boycott, I was supporting Kyrie, you know, I was supporting you, and you know, and it was it was dope to see that you guys, actually you knew had a meeting with his team, you know, to try to figure out something about shoes and then figuring out how could you guys collaborate? How did that

come about? And like what what's the status of that now? Yeah, and and that came about through even just being on your page and and and seeing you post all of the stuff. And then something to Mika has said was like the last straw for her was when the guy at Nike the own said that he what he said went too far, and I'm like, he didn't say anything. How could you not say a word and get fired

for hate speech? Like that was just the last draw for me and then um, you know when I got once he got dropped, everybody started adding me on every post, like you should reach out to Kyrie, you should reach out to Kyrie. Nike dropped him. So I watched what Kyrie does. Like one thing like Kyrie is he's about loving all. He's about peace, and he also is a he gives back a lot more than they talk about,

like he'll donate. He donates money here there, here there, And that's what I do in my community to what I have just the utmost respect for people who are financially able to give back in this not just about oh, stacking all this money, stacking all this money, because people just don't realize it doesn't matter how much money you have. It doesn't change anything in your life other than the stresser of paying a bill, and that's only a one minor stresser for people and at you. Other than that,

you still have the same problems. So being that he does so much for other people, I was offering my services for free, like I can help you get the factories in China if you want to do your own brand, the same way Kobe was gonna do before his untimely passing. He was gonna start Mamba Sports. And I would love to see Kyrie finished that, you know so, and I know that he may not have those those connections and those doors to get unlocked, and I can open those

doors for him. I can hook him up with with manufacturers that can bring I can help him design the shoe and bring it to the manufactur and get it made. I even had a podiatrist on board ready to help with the science of the shoe, all of these different things that you would need because people think that it's so hard to do with these big companies are doing. They're like all the tech that's in shoes, it's not a lot of tech and shoes. They act like they're

putting rocket science in these shoes. It's literally phone different types of densities in the phone. There's what you call a shank plate, which is like either plastical carbon fire. But that's any shoe that makes it bounce back when you snap it in half, so that's an energy return. There's not too much more than that to a shoe.

Mind you, we watched Patrick, you and them playing shoes that just was rubber, so you know it's it's not people just they make They do all these cute advertising and marketing to make you think that there's so much more that goes into this product that it really does it. And I'm very familiar with that. Well, listen, I hope that you and Kyrie are able to work together. You know, I know his manager who is his um, step mom um,

and you know she's an incredible, brilliant businesswoman. And hopefully you all will be able to create something and make us proud, right like take it and and and and and go from the tragedy and the as far as I'm concerned and Undia injustice of Kyrie being dropped for uh this situation, which again he apologized. He said what

he said. I respect him for as a man. He stood up to take knowledge what he his role in, um you know, in in offending another community, and I think he did he did that and he he um, he completed that task. However, you know, we all know that when black people have any issue, the world wants to literally lynch us. And that's what, in my opinion, happened to Kyrie. So I'm I hope that that that you guys are able to do it. The one thing is the two things, and I'm done that I wanted

to talk about. One is I heard you talking about Pakistan and China and and those places. Obviously they are this is their expertise, this is what they do, right, But what I think we also need to be looking at is how we can go into the continent, into Africa. We visited Ghana and we learned that within Ghana there is so much brilliance and talent, but we have not set up and helped them to establish the infrastructure that they need to become the next China that can produce

you know, products or whatever. And so I just wonder if you ever think about what it looks like to really go to and I know Kyrie is interested in, um, you know, being in Africa and finding ways to develop in that on our continent. Yeah, that that would be amazing. So the only thing is with so so the reason why you like, you know, people do production in like Turkey, China or Pakistan is because, um, there's like an app

Ali Baba. Ali Baba gives you all of the warehouses, like all of the manufacturers around the whole world, so you can talk to them on the app of Ali Baba. But there's no if there was an Africa on there, then we would be able to talk to Africa and no like even not going there, Like I've never been to Pakistan, I probably won't go because Pakistan is just you're you're on the flight. Once you get once you go to Pakistan, you're done. Like you flying, you can

stopped there be where, right. But so the thing is we it is getting I don't even know if they have factories. If they have factories, then I could do work there. But the thing is I don't even have the communication to talk to them. So that would be a trip, you know, the trip. First of all, we are we will be having a trip that's coming up in the next few months that we will invite you to come and be a part of. I don't know if they have factories, but they have land, and they

have people, um, and they have brilliance. In fact, everything that everybody else is doing was created right there on the continent, and other people have been able to capitalize from our brilliance because for the most part, we've taught everybody everything and designed everything. So we should figure that out and and time is coming to an end. I want to ask you about customer service. All the things

I've heard about the product, how great it is. Everybody has positive things to say, But I'm also in the comments because every now and then I read them. Have seen people, um with issues around customer service. Can you talk about that? And then and and my only little piece of advice as a person who I'm a big customer service UM, you know, I'm I'm anna want for

customer service if you will. Sometimes we're great at creation and building and all of that, but need to have somebody else help out with the part that has to do with interfacing with people. Do you feel like that's an issue or something that you're working on. Nos. So the problem with customer services people don't read. And that's the problem with social media. So everything that we do is the most transparent, like right. So our product sells

out super fast. So sometimes we'll have a shoe like this, we drop it in five minutes. The shoe was gone. I'm ready to move on to the next shoe because we have a warehouse full of new shoes to drop every week. We drop a new shoe every Friday and every Saturday. So when it sells out, some people are like, you know what, we want the product, but it's sold

out too fast. Can you do a pre order? So I'll say sometimes I say no. A lot of times I say no. Recently I've been saying yes again because with the whole Kyrie thing, we've been getting a lot of new people. It literally says this is a pre order, and all in the description it says ninety days minimum. As we get our shoes made in China, so sometimes they may have COVID they have zero to All of

this is in it. Then we also have an update on our page that's always there right here, so you hit the update tab and every single update that's made, we let me post an update. Every update. It will put it up every week, so like, look every weekly update. If you hit it, it tells you, and it's got the date in the corner for every update every week. If I have an update, I give it. The only thing is that social media everybody wants the quick. They don't want to read. I'll post a shoe right now.

My sign has seen it. This shoe is dropping at ten o'clock California. Time in size is five to fifteen. The first it's common to be like, hey, when can I buy this shoe? Like I can't make people read and literally the people who complain about customer service are people who don't read. It's literally like, this shoe is a pre order, they'll act in two days. Yo, I haven't got my tracking number yet. What the f is going on? That's why I don't deal with black owned businesses.

It's like a lot of black people have that that thing of like, Yo, they want to tear you down because they think you're going to do them wrong because of what they've conditioned us to believe. Right, I have this, It makes no sense for me to take your money and not give you the product, especially when I know the quality of my product and what it's gonna do. Once you have it, you're going to want to buy more. I would never take your money and not give you

the product. But I also can't make people read when it's literally the first thing in there. Now, we've resorted to putting the word pre order on the picture on the website, so like, if you even get past that and we still have people order the shoe and it's a pre order on it and still hit us a week later saying why haven't the shoes ship yet? Now, those are the type of things I can't change that I have a. I don't do customer service. I have

three people who answer customer service emails. It's right on my profile. It's it's just says email, you click that and your right to customer service. And the one of the young ladies who was in charge, the name is Astrid. She is amazing. She has an amazing pace. She's a sweetheart. She lives out of New Orleans and she answers all of the emails from there. And the people who actually hit her up they send me like, oh my god,

she's so sweet. You have great customer service. But the people who think they should get their shoes in three days after they said ninety days are the people that are the ones that are complaining. Well, and everything I said, you can check it yourself. You can. Most of the people that I know, um that order from you, that you know, the people giving me that directly, people that I know, there's like, yo, I never had no problems. I never had no issues, So it's the best you

should have been this. I've been on side for the last three years and I'm like, well, damn, nobody ain't telling me. But so you know, everybody has a different experience. So it seems like you explain that, but I just want to I want to ask this last question because I know you gotta go what is your ultimate goal for where do you see side in the next ten years? Like what do you ultimately want to do? So of course we're gonna continue to grow and continue to have

dope things. We're gonna have shoes in the NBA. So now with the whole Kyrie thing, regardless of how that plays out, we're going full speed ahead and make a performance basketball shoes. I'm gonna see the ticket hold of Fragmental Kings, so I have players there that I can have where the shoes being at. I have, excuse me, Montrez Harrod who plays for the Sixers, who wears our shoes. He's also been signed to rebox. So I know how these companies run these things. Now, They'll literally not even

pay players. They just give them shoes and give them an account on a website to get stuff for free. So like, I don't even have to be paying players millions of dollars to wear our products. And then a lot of players are just a part of the community and they're like, yo, if you make a basketball shot, I'm gonna wear it. Just just shoot me some sizes

and I'm gonna support. The other thing that we're doing now is with UM with our new memberships, we're gonna do a discord, and I want our discord to be like a Black Wall Street. So it's like if you're in there and you support size, like, hey, I have this company that makes c moss, I have this company that that's a photographer, that's a videographer. So we have it in there, and if we can keep that whole

group economics going in there. Now, we're building one multiple entities from one entity that's actually have a good amount of attention on them. Right now, it's always about how can we do as a community to bring each other up higher? Because if if my whole thing and in this whole thing that I'm doing with my company, with my business, is that I only made my family rich and I have been a big complete failure because because that's not my success. Like I wake up this is

I'm doing what I never thought what's possible. I wake up every day in my house. Still. You know, we're building a facility, but in my house, I get the design. I get to be a stay at home dad and make millions at the same time, like I couldn't have it any other way. But the money has never been the motivation. The motivation is just what can you push the envelope next, like we've been doing, Like you're wearing the phone shoes. We've been doing the phone shoes before

these companies been doing. And we're on our fifty and six. We're on our fifth six phone shoe and they're copying what we're doing, and we're moving on to seven and eight, like we we want to be that whatever, like you know what, oh, Nike did that, but it's I did that three years ago, you know, and you're all excited

about it. Now you should have seen this guy, you know, So that that's that's that's the goal is just to keep doing that and to keep seeing other young um companies of color also strive, right because if we have it everywhere where we can get suits from this person, this person, this person, then nobody can tell us that they don't like what we say or what we stand for because we because we're so attached to these brands that don't care about us, like all these companies Nike, Adidas,

they make all their money off for young black men that play sports. But yet you go to the projects, the courts are messed up. If this is your talent pool, why don't you invest in the community, Put a commun need to send it there, put a rex in and put a brand new court there. Right when we made our own version of the Timberlands, people from the hood were mad, like, why are you obsessed with Timberland? What they did for you? What do they do for you?

When we made a better looking shoe with this better quality and the same exact price. But you say, oh, it's taboo to touch the Timberland like that. That mind state right there is not gonna get us nowhere. You're attached to something, to a whole another family that don't even care about your black skin. I've never seen Timberland say, yo, we want to we want to promote your next march. We want to give you guys the money to fly

to go protests here, to protest there. Since you've been spotted in our boots while you've been doing the groundwork in Ferguson or dead. They don't care to all these companies that don't care about you, why do you care about them so much? And why is it a problem with somebody who looks like you tries to change that

for the future coming up. Mh well, mouthful brother. And when we get when we get the answers to those, we're gonna be to change a lot, you know, because that's that's our biggest our biggest problem to me is that we were so attached to instruction, the system that doesn't love us, and we're so scared to break away from it. So when we when we finally break those chains, we're gonna get what we're supposed to get. I want to thank you for being here. King. Continue to do

what you do this society somewhere in America. Devlin Carter sied collective. Keep making the fly shoes and need me a couple more. I've got to look with them, you know. But these these right here though, and I need the ones with the light up bottoms though. Yeah, I got you, we got you, said up five and boys, right, Yes, I got you, we got you. Going loot you man, keep being great. This is black history, mom, this is black excellence. That's right. That's right. Great interview. Thanks a lot.

Thank you for having me. I appreciate you all for real. Thank you harder, thank you for joining three politicians a new friends, our new friends. That's a dope man, dope interview man shout out to Deblin, you know, side collective somewhere in America. He sees he's very business. Have you understands the game. You tell that he's been around and he studied his craft. You know, that's that's what you want. It's not just somebody to say, you know, let me go make a T shirt through the looms and just

for the name. More than say I got a business. Now, it's a man who created his own empire, you know, who had a vision, who started out just customizing other brands of shoes and then you know, got put on to you know, actually creating his own brand. And it's and and I stand by it. You know, every pair of shoes that I have from Siyah Quality Fashionabooty different, they don't look like anything else. It's creative, you know. And you can see that he definitely believes in his brand.

He has a lot of confidence. He's driven. Man. That's black excellence, man in black history more it is. And I love it. I mean I love his vigor. You know, the way he speaks, the way he knows his stuff, you know, the the the story you can hear to hustle, you hear everything. I love it. You know, I think he will even it's gonna it can only get better, you know. That's that's the one thing we know is it can only get better. And I think he needs

to be supported. If they are issues and challenges, he needs to be made aware of them and we as a community. That's what the whole qualms of principles like, that's what the quands of principles are supposed to be about. Right. It's also what the uh the the steps of the stages of non violence that Dr King talked about, right

and what he followed. It's all about when there has misunderstanding, when there are issues and challenges and things that would stop us from being able to grow and work together, we have to find a way to lean into those principles and figure out which one of those things can we use to mitigate the issue so that we can continue to move forward positively as a community where it will help us to grow. And I hope that anybody that's out there that's like, oh, well, I had a

bad experience with Siah collective. You heard his response, But beyond that, figure out like even in yourself. Did I read all the information properly? And if I did, maybe you want to sit down and write an email. Now, Hey, I heard you talk about reading, but it wasn't so much the reading that was the issue. Here is my challenges without insults, without you know, being disrespectful or nasty about it, even if you feel like they were to

you at one point. It all we can control is ourselves, right, and the only way that we can make what we have better is if we have the patients and the discipline a step back and say, I'm gonna try to approach this differently from how I have been impact to see if there's a better way forward. That's what we gotta do. I mean, it's what we have to do.

You talked about at the top of the show. All of this stuff that's happening across this country and all the things even just in New York, people being killed, people being harmed, all kinds of things. We gotta change the way we communicate and deal and and and actually approach loving one another. You have to definitely have to, so shout out to once again, Shout out to Devlin, Shout out to side collective. Keep doing what you do now, my idol get it is a little laugh. It's a conversation,

right that I constantly is and I'm confused. So and I'm and I'm talking to you and women, I want you to tune in. I want you to kind of help me because I know she's gonna probably try to break this down. So I was watching this interview, came across my timeline and it was Jesse who talking to Candy Code and they were talking about she's on Candy Code,

I think talking to Candy. She was talking to Candy and she was on Candy Coded, and they were talking about women not having orgasms from sex, and I really, for the life of me, do not because this seems to be a common thing, and it was from my eighty percent ninety percent of women aren't having orgasms from sex, right, And I don't understand for the life of me, why y'all do it? And why are you not telling then

that ain't giving you the orguys. It's it's like for me, it's it's I don't think I would ever have sex with a woman if I wasn't if I wasn't climax, and I don't see I don't the demand state of it to me is so crazy to me, like, I really just do not get it. What is the what like sex must be something completely different for women that it is for man, because then to have sex and

not climax, it's like a waste of time. Well, first of all, a man, a male orgasm is visible, so you don't have the ability to fake as much as a woman. I mean, I'm just I'm going through my little point. So that's first of all. So what in order to understand that. I remember, I must have been I don't know twenty three and I went to see my um gyna cologists and I wasn't talking about orgasms. We were talking about something else, and she was just like, oh, well,

you know most women don't have orgasms. And she started talking about before you even get far down the road in your sexual life, you need to learn to speak up and tell the truth about how you feel. And it took me some time to get to the place where I'm comfortable doing that. What I would say is that we have to understand society. You back. You and I have actually talked about this before, but it's been

seasons and seasons ago. We have to act stually understand society and how things were designed right and this, and it connects to other conversations, even going back to what I said earlier about women being present in the movement, right, when you deal with patriarchy and what patriarchy means. And we were taught patrick patriarchy from a European mindset that the man is the head uh and and and and we support that. We support I know, I do. We've

already talked about this. I support the man being the head of our household, a community, a home in my life. I have no issue with that. But we know from our African culture and values that it wasn't that the man was the head to the point that a woman was suppressed because obviously the king was. We would have to repeat things over and over again, so people don't forget the king couldn't even be um crowns as king unless the we agreed she had to tap him for leadership. Right.

So when we know that, we know our values are not the way that European society sort of came in and changed our thinking. So once we started to take on values that don't belong to us, we were taught as women that our role our only role is to satisfy a man. That's all we're here to do, is to satisfy a man. Make sure the man is happy, and do whatever you gotta do to make him feel good so that he doesn't leave you go sleep with

somebody else, you know. Of course, that's a big issue that a lot of women, even when they're physically in pain, they will have sex because they don't want their men to get frustrated and go out and seek other women. So it is a mindset that we as a community, we as a community just have to do a better job of sitting down as black people and returning to the culture that we work, that that we were going

for or what was designed for us. Because we've been taught that we as women don't have as much value as a man, so our job is to please. We were never taught ever in every woman's home, the grandmamas or whatever they like. Girl, not every woman, but a lot of women, it's like, girl, just fake it, Just do whatever you gotta do, keep that man happy. And we never are taught what it takes to keep us happy as well. And by the way, most men don't know what the hell they're doing. I'm i keep saying

that over your body's gonna listen. It's just like boxing, right, And I'm doing a lot of boxing now and I'm learning techniques and ship that I didn't know that I know now, you know ship that I used to know. But I'm being reminded that the trainer is saying, Hey, you gotta do it this way. You gotta turn this way, you gotta do this. You gotta keep doing it. No, no, you gotta keep doing it even what you gotta keep

doing it. So my thing is this, if did I don't understand how relationship right unless I don't know, I don't know no man that's comfortable with just being in a relationship with a slave. Right. You want you want you want someone who values you. Yes, you want respect. You want somebody to uplift you, that makes you feel good. But that's damn. They're like rap. If I'm having sex with a woman and she enjoying herselfs and she in pain, and she doing all this ship just for me, I

don't want that. No. I don't think any man of any level of integrity and honor wants to be having sex with a woman that's just going and you you're not enjoying it, and and you're not telling me the things that they can do to make you feel good. I don't like who taught you that that's what men were.

But but well, I'm telling you that society what what I'm saying, But what I would say, I don't know about nobody wanting it because some people could care less, couldn't care less whether they are actually pleasing a woman. Some men they don't know that relationship with a woman. If you're just a woman that somebody just sees as you know, you just something to do, then cool. They just trying to know. Is that? All I know is that sometimes when I hear you speak, I hear you

speak about you and your circle, your friends. I hear Angelo Attorney, Angelo Pinto, our other um, the one of the four co founders and until freedom. When when you all are talking and when we have these types of discussions, you often speak about it from your own perspective. I'm trying to tell you as a woman, right that I have, That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I think

the conversation. Right, you as a woman can tell me how you perceive thing, because I can't tell you as a man, what I'm saying as a woman, I'm telling you what my experience has been and what the experiences of a lot of other women have been. They can't even The thing is, a lot of men are fragile, They have fragile egos, and they cannot take anybody telling them what they are or are not doing properly. They can't even have those kind of those kinds of conversations.

I will say that some of it goes back to the fact that when you lie or faith as a woman for so long, you have a situation where people don't know. They don't even know what they don't know.

So therefore it's like, you know, they believe that they're doing something because you're faking it and making them think that they're actually doing something good, and they're not so that that I get it, I get how we got here, and I understand there's a lot of guys out here that they've been lied to for so long that they don't even know what they don't know. But I'm saying still this point, my original point is that a lot of men can't even take a woman telling them, Hey, actually,

I don't even have orgasms with you. It's not really working. They can't take that. You know what they do? They let me tell you what they do. They get an attitude about it. It gets in their head. They're unable to even move forward. And the other thing that some of them do is go find Tricksie who is going hell and whether and maybe she does like it or she's faking better. But a lot of people's egos too fragile to take you come into them telling them the truth.

I'm just telling you my thing is this. I don't It's not that I don't understand it for the man, because I can understand the man because he goes. He get off whether you tell him or not, he gonna he getting whatever he get. He think you're doing, think you like it, so he's going along with the situation.

What I don't get is the mind state of you just said all of that, and I still, for the life of me, it still does not make sense to me that you will want to in habitat being a relationship with out of which word with, I don't know. I guess you said live in the same space together, Okay, exactly? You want to have you want to share space with somebody, all these things with somebody who doesn't satisfy you like and and be in the relationship with that. I just

don't understand. Well, we could put a pen here. I'm not it ain't gonna happen. But when I'm listening to them say that, I'm like, it is unbelievable. So you'll please let me know, Jesse Jesse, to let me know what's going on, because I'm confused. Jesse Jesse. Our sister was telling the truth about her experience, and it is the experience of a lot of women because Candy and that same clip. She ended it by saying that percent or so of women don't have orgasms from penetration because

it's not the easiest thing to do. You gotta have a lot of patients. You have to actually get to earn a woman's body and what it is that's gonna trigger them. And there's a lot of prior and and you know a lot of things mentally, right, like, you can't stress me out, you are liar, you a Cheatah, We're going through all of this drama and then we lay down together and I'm and I'm supposed to have

these amazing experiences. Actually, all of that sex doesn't just start in a Bay sex starts outside of that thinking for men, if a woman, if a man lay down, he tired, you don't for them are day and all? You don't want me this and that? Why you ain't trying to touch me because you don't, I don't. You don't argue so much. I'm I'm not in the space.

Do you even want to have you? You gotta do on the relationship so we could get to the pleasure that with the peak of pleasure that we're supposed to have. And with that said, we come to an end of another dope episode. Shout out to Devlon Carter side collections. Uh, somewhere in America brand, make sure you follow him. Brothers doing dope stuff. Happy Black History Month? It should be Black History. Yeah, that's another thing. I don't get. Why we just let these people give us a month like

we only work for a month. We built this motherfucking country. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, shout out to my man, Bungee Brand. You can't see it, we can't see you can't see see. Yeah, Bungee Brand, you know you see how to fit mon Manka talk. You know what I'm saying. You see huh? If it's right, and this is something going on in the back of the sleep. This is down Bungee This yeah, Bungee brand. You know, another black wound. Make sure you're Jesus, you're gonna lie

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