Idol Worship

and Jeepop were in the building in the Brazil. Then what's going on with you? Man's god? Um? I was gonna suggest that for today, since there's so much to be said before we bring our incredible UM guests. I'm really inspired by the guests that we are going to have on today that you should really spend some time just kind of talking about so much of the things that's been happening in the online. I don't even know

if it's just the media. It's like at this point people are creating their own media UM, and so you know, I've just figured we could maybe do that and I would forego my thought of the day, although all of it is like it's not even the thought of the day, it's now thoughts of a month, and every day it seems like it's been one day for an entire month of stuff that has been, um, you know, just just

very very troubling. And I guess I start off just by saying that while I am still very very much so concerned about um Kanye or yea, excuse me, I want to be respectful because he did mention in an interview that I saw that he changed his name and he would appreciate if people call him his name, and I think that's right. So even though you know, it's like Puffs changed his name a million times and I still call him Puff and he you know, that's that's it.

So it's just, you know, sometimes you get attached to something but want to be respectful, and so yeah, he you know, I am very still I'm still very much so concerned about his mental wealth, um, because I feel like whatever we want to say about the intentionality or not and how he may or may not be be being used or how much he may know about what he's doing and and all of that, still, to me, there is a sickness about anyone who chooses to um be sort of anti yourself, right because but for the

fact that Kanye is or Yea is who he is, if he was in the street and there was no security and he was thought to have been carrying a counterfeit bill or some other type of situation we've seen, you know, we have a list. We could go on and on and on and on with the list of incidents that can take place and if approached by the wrong officer at the right time, you can lose your life. That's a fact. So it's this is not something that we just are you know, we're sort of dreaming up

or we're making it up, or we're dramatizing it. We have watched this happen too many times to too many of our people. And for him, who I know from Chicago with a mother who had activism even in her blood and understanding where where Yea comes from, I know that he is very much so aware of the challenge that we as people, as black people and especially black men,

that they face, that you all face in society. And I think it's something wrong with the person who is, for whatever reason, willing to try to change what we saw. There is this question of you know that he has been posing and I'm assuming and I assume I don't know, because I would never even give Candice Owns documentary two

seconds of my life. But it seems that at some point in in this documentary they're trying to make the case that the fenon al that was in George Floyd's system may have been or is what killed him instead of the incident that took place. And I saw someone in my comments section make a very very important point because you asked, well, who hit him with the fencon al, all of that, all those things, who hit him with the fencing al, whether or not he took it himself.

Let me just let me, let me let me because I want to be very clear. He did not ask, he said, and Coot hit him with the fitting okay, son, because they said, oh you're misting, he said, then they hit him with the fantonel okay. So what I was gonna say is and find please correct me, because I certainly don't want to misquote him or anybody else. But all of that is theory, All of that is opinion, All of that is possibility. All of that is what we know, though is we watched a man with his

knee in his neck compressing his body. And in fact, it was not just Derek Schauvin who was compressing George Floyd's body. At some point the other two officers were on the other end of his body compressing him as well. We know it, We saw it, and ain't no nothing you could tell. There's no documentary that you know has whatever perspective it wants to show. There's no commentary that can change what I watched too many times over and over and over again and moreover. None of the people

who are speaking now were present. But you know who was present, the people who filmed, the person who filed it, and other individuals who were present on the scene. And they also saw him die because someone kneeled in his neck for over nine minutes. That we know to be true. And I guess the only thing I'll say, and I will take it to you to to you know, give

you a perspective. I understand the need and the desire to try to defend someone that you love and that you are close to or feel close to, even when you know that some of the things that that person is doing wrong. Right, we all we all we talked

about last week on the show. There is a level of hypocrisy that exists in humans because it is human nature to want to protect or to stand by certain things and people, either because it's familiar to you or because you know you love someone or something in your

culture or whatever. But it doesn't make it right. The problem with Yea and people who are attempting people who have been or at some point we're well respected in my eyes, um, but these last few weeks has diminished that greatly for me as it relates to some people that I really, really really held in high regard, and what I think is very It's not just troubling, it's actually disgusting that they seem to be able to speak to and about this person and say such great things

and not even mentioned, not even mentioned, the disrespect, disregard and the demeaning of George Floyd and what that man suffered. And many of some of the same individuals that my respect for has diminished are the same people that their platforms have grown as a result of what took place with George Floyd and how this movement began to shape around new ideas, new directions and passed for how we

overcome in an oppressive and racist system. So to me, to watch folks use this as eiven either a moment to just support someone that they feel in you know, endearing or endeared or I don't know if that's the right word, but they feel close to for whatever reason, and or just because they want click and not to even mention the wrongdoing, and and to not to even understand things how it all connects, because we did not

just start here. We started at make America Great Again, first of all, which in then in and of itself, was a statement that meant America for white people and not for black, brown and brown and others. That's what make America Great Again was. It was to return to a time when white men were in complete power and control. And he supported that. We didn't really say much. It was whatever, it was whatever. We moved on through many

other instances. Two White Lives Matter coming up now, and that was a direct assault, a violent assault against our movement. And now we come to you being one of those to be and uh anti black apologist for white people who want to say that what happened to George Floyd didn't happen in the name of you trying to diminish the value of a movement that was that changed the world. So for me, I don't feel sorry for Yea at all.

I feel concerned about his health, but I do not feel sorry for him that he is being dragged through the mud because the way in which he is approaching all of it, everything with the good things that he says, the things that are necessary to be talked about, as well as the unfortunate, terrible, disgusting things that he said, he put himself in this situation. He did this, not

the world. He did it. Mm hmm. I just think for me, you know, just watching and just paying attention and just understanding the dynamics, right, and to standing how black men are the most targeted people in America. We're not the most. I think black women are more hated, but I think black men are more targeted, right, And and it's hard to find spaces for black men, right.

It's hard for us to find people that we can actually aspire to be, you know, and we don't have many of certain kinds of leaders who are in the line life. We don't have people who actually aren't afraid to say certain things, right. So sometimes the need to

feel a whole. To feel present, to feel valued, makes you attached to things that aren't always um profitable, that aren't always beneficial to you, people who don't always have your best interests at heart, right, And I think this is what happened, right, And I think what's what we're seeing right now is black and it is mainly black men's need to feel heard, need to feel represented, need

to feel powerful. And yea, even though it's misguided, even though he utilizes the power that he has wrong, even though he utilizes his blackness only when it's beneficial to him, he represents that to some people. You know, we live in a capitalist society, and when you have a level of money, in the level of notoriety and level of fame, people seem to deify you, right, They succeed you at some level with deity. And this is what happened. We are uh you said, they seem to see you as

a way a deity. What is that? I never a deity? Is a god? Wow, So they start to see you in this light, and this is what's happening. And when you couple with we live in a capitalistic society, and you cover that with him being able to mass to state the amount of wealth. People will overlook all the bullshit that he does because he has wealth and he seems to have a voice that he doesn't care. So when you look at you look at those things, and you look at black men's position in society, and you

see why they want to champion it. I understand it. But it's dangerous in this wrong because this is not the person to follow. This is not a strategic leader. This is a person who is emotionally destitute. Emotional right, we have a person who has the emotional intelligence of a five year old. Every time something doesn't go his way,

every time he doesn't like it. We didn't choose his wife, right we we we didn't sign the business deals that he did, and every time those things right when we told him when people say, you know what, I don't know why you would married the kardash they don't really have a good track record, especially with black men. I don't think if most people say that it didn't make sense. He dis is himself from friends and everybody because they

didn't agree with his relationship. Right, you dealt you did that? You when when Swaye told you, won't you to make your own business? Can you like, you don't need to sign with these people like you. You got the brand, you got the name, You could do your own thing. He cursed sway out of tol him. He didn't have the answers right. So when black people was trying to save you from making decisions and poor choices, you gave

us your ass to kiss. When we watched you go with the Maga hat and said why would you do that? You said you did what you wanted to do when you said Rosa Park, then free the slaves, and we're like, why would you say that? You do went along? I mean my fault not Rose Prodeast Harriet Tubman when you said Harriet Tusman, then free the slaves. You did what you wanted to do. You wouldn't along you Black Metal

goes like, why would you say that? Can't you? That don't really make sense, that that diminishes our history and what we're saying for You did it because you felt like it made sense to you. You wore the current Federate flag. We said, Kanye, why would you do that to black people? Like we? We we would you like? And every time you continue to give us your ass to kids. Now, when the relationship where you and Kim

doesn't go right. When the business deal that we told you you probably should when Swaye told you probably shouldn't doesn't go right. You are black and these are white people doing this to you, or these are these people did everybody's doing some to you, and you use your black carded us as black people are supposed to come with the kate and say, nah, you're black. We don't get how much you've diminished our coach, how much you disrespected us, how much you said that as harm. That's

put us in harm's way. You come here with a White Lives Matter T shirt where we was in fuck Louisville, Kentucky with white people have White Lives Matter hats and shirts and surrounded us and was about to kill us in the name of white Lives Matter, and you disrespected that reality for us. And now because your business and your personal situations don't go right, you act black people like us, You diminish with Black Lives Matter. The movement

represents you. You sit on here and you lie, and you you take um white supremacists talking points from a fake fucking documentary full of the narratives that was already debunked, and you put that on on our platforms, on cultural platforms that represent black people in the culture, and you and you spread that information, which causes other people who

believe you would follow you to spread the misinformation. And now we gotta fight to show that a man who was murdered and killed in cold blood on television in front of us that we've seen for for damn New year straight, we had to fight to say no, that he did kill him. And you did that to us, and we and we are wrong for saying that we're

not suppoint you and your personal tirades. You come with tirades and you talk about the industry, and you talked about this and that, and I was controlling this and that, and you got a billion dollars and you haven't built one institution, you haven't done anything to combat that. But you're yelling screen on platform and we're supposed to and not supposed to be I would leader. We're supposed to follow somebody with no strategy, with nothing, and you think

that makes sense. And thing is that people closing, people close him that know him well are like, man, there's no strategy, there's no strategy, there's no you don't. The reason why it's no strategy because this is this has happened before. You're doing the same ship that everybody else has done and it didn't work for them. You don't have no strategy. You have not created anything you said. You haven't created anything that a black voice can be

free to speak with with have youthful. You don't have the record label that does it. You have no record company, you don't you don't have a platform that does it. You don't have a job where you only employed black people. You don't have nothing that's going to free the free to black voice to be what you say it should be. And you think it's a problem, I'm confused. No, I mean and I and I and I think and you got a billion dollars. It's not like you mean, you know,

he doesn't have a billion dollars. You got a billion dollars, and you have access to be able to create that. Then have a billion dollars. In the last tirade I heard him on, he said he has eleven billion dollars. That's what he said, So let's just be clear. He also, Okay, this man, to your point, if you're saying that the Jews are controlling the media and the Jews have all this is his this is his position. Right, where's your where's your ownership of your own network? Because guess what

fan base exists? So you could invest in that. Instead you went and purchase a conservatives a black own fan base. Sorry you right, old black owned social media network that Isaac Hayes the Third owns look like actually monetized on that could do the same ship that every other platform has. And we can monetize our own ship and you ain't never promote sat down with that black man that did nothing with Okay, you you could have your own network. What's his name? Uh? Byron Allen? Right, he bought the

BNC network and made it the Greo TV. Are you sitting down with him saying take some of my eleven billion dollars and let's help make this thing how old? Because you're not trying to do that. You emotional about your your women and what's going on in your personal life, and you want people to do The man sat on the man sat on the dream chairs and said, I made the white lives matter because the coaching didn't support

me when they kidnapped my kids. So you you you put black people whose lives and harm because of your personal tirade over the women that you married and have kids with. You know how many of us have issues with our baby mothers. You know what many of us can't see our kids. You know what many of us are to play child support that we don't even have. And you, as a billionaire, you wanted regular everyday people to go and support you in a decision that you make.

How many people you came up to support? But I don't even disagree. I don't even disagree with him that on this point right, check this out. He can sit here and say I couldn't see my kids and the culture should stand up. I'm not even gonna disagree. I'm gonna say, you know what, maybe there's something that the world can do to make it clear that we do not appreciate or or that we don't tolerate people keeping

black men from seeing their children. Fine, well, I just want to know how many people is Kanye is supporting in the same system. That's what I'm actual because guess what. Guess what, the uh Family Court is a fucking disaster the black Why you ain't going out and said, look, we want to invest in the fund laymen who can't see their kids. We're gonna be able to help you get some lawyers and all this. Because I'm dealing with this. I got a couple of billion dollars. I wouldn't invest

in this because this is a problem. This is a problem, so we need to figure out how we change that. What is happening here is we are being weaponized to handle your personal business, your family custody battle, which, by the way, to all the brothers that are out there who are such strong masculine men who support you know yea, because he's speaking and he's a freethinker and all this and that quick question, do y'all know that the man was putting the text messages between him and his wife

on the internet. Do you all know that he posted the name of his celebrity highly like uh exposed children on the internet? The daddy that cares so much about the kids put the children's school's name on the damned internet. This is not it's it's not okay. It's not okay. And to me back to your point, you're weaponizing us for your business deals, for your family issues, all things that we have nothing to do with. But if you came to the community and said, listen, I am here,

I'm a supporter, I'm a resource. I'm in the trenches doing the best that I can and now I'm in trouble and I need support. I'm sure people would get behind you, but violating, disrespecting and giving us your ask the kids, why would I Why would I get involved in that? Why would I want to be involved in something with someone who is also standing next to and working with people who intentionally intentionally try and and and

they don't just try. They literally ripped at the fabric of every thing we say we stand and fight for every single day. Why would we want to stand with that? I'm just trying to I literally I want to know

why I really do. There's no reason. There's there's no justification for it, man, you know, and it's it's really like I really would say to myself, like it's just no more common sense like they have now we have hundreds of black people who have respective voices posted about a documentary from a once one side from from the defense attorney like this is the dumbest ship, Like it

is the dumbest ship in the world. Like right, it's like it's like you coming, like you just like if if that's what it took to when the case, we wouldn't have no case. If if the defense just came and said, look they said we killed them, Look we got our evidence, and that the jury just heard that, everybody would be like, oh, look you see that. They showed this. They showed this. Where is the other side?

But that's so I mean, But this is what I'm trying to say, is I want to understand that the common sense of the people that that I that I want to believe that I actually want to believe a good people that want the best for us. Like I want to understand the mind state of an individual who I think is a stand up individual. I think it's strong that really wants the best for black people. What is the mindset that you have when you take the talking points, the visuals of the oppressor, the person who

you know is that everything to take us. Then when you take those talking points and you present them, you present them because you have a position of power, people respect you as leader. You present them two people who don't have the discernment that that that that you have, right, they don't have you present that with no no text, just oh yeah, this is what yeah, he was talking about this is the context with you. You pres let

that to people. So what people do is take it as oh, ship, I didn't know this or I didn't know that. Right, So they take that at meaning that, oh, all of this happened and I didn't know it. That must mean that all the rest of the ship is alive. What does that? What? What goes on in your mind when you know there's a whole another side? Right, there was a case, there was a trial. There's over hundreds of videos. There's over hundreds of pictures that showed this

man with his knee on his neck. You take a video clip with one second of a video where somebody's knee might have looked like it was on the shoulder for one second, a bit a picture, one picture of a nine minute interaction. He could have been adjusted his body. They stopped it. They made a still frame to his on the shoulder for a second. You said, look, he wasn't on the show. You take the talking points of the enemy not and ignore completely ignored the reality. And

this is their excuse. This is the excuse because I I saw it on on one of our brothers pages. Oh well, I'm just giving contexts. First of all, not all contexts matters. Second of all, if you provide context for something, you ought to explain why it's problematic. And lastly, do y'all not how to freak did you become under He's not responsible or accountable for anything. So you're telling me just because he saw over there some ship that he as an intelligent freethinker who is so amazed and

he's got all of these great leadership qualities. And your king can't see that something is wrong with what you're showing me. And there's much more, and I don't need to repeat out of my mouth the ship that I know that you're showing me over here. That's too confuse me when I know there's a larger context. So you're telling me that you're willing to follow up change that will repeat some bullshit that they all that's two seconds that you know ain't right, And that's the person that

you want to defend. Crazy, I mean, either they're crazy or we're crazy. If this is what I'm trying to tell you, I've I've come to the conclusion that either they crazy, either they completely have have checked out. And and what I'm trying to tell you, like you said, Man,

this I didn't worship. Ship is different. It's different. It's really when you when you idolize somebody so much that you don't even see their flows, that you can't even see when they're telling a lot, like if they can tell you one plus two is five and you start believing that ship, this is where we are because one plus one don't equal to to these people no more. It's when they've completely abandoned common sense and they adopted conspiracy theories. What if or maybe not. They've abandoned what

you you see, what your personal eyes. They've abandoned what you know that you can actually touch, what you can actually look up. They don't give a funk about facts. Like seonle Man says, this ship all the time, and I never really thought about it. But he says, who kids about the truth when the lies more entertaining? People are more entertained by lies and falsehoods and conspiracies. If I could make you believe that something, Look, you know, somebody comes in my house at night. They sneak in.

I don't know, I've never seen them, but I know they sneak in. The mystery of that intrigues people, whether the reality is like I've never seen nobody to sneak in no motherfucking house to night with the doors locked. It don't really make sense. But people are gravitating to this conspiracy of the unseen in all of this ship, rather than dealing with the basic common sense that they've been taught, the ship that they've learned, the ship that they've seen with their own two eyes. People are going

on ship that they've never seen happen before. And that's where we are. And it's like, you know, for me, I deal in reality. I deal with life on life's terms, Like if you show me facts to support what you're saying, if you can back up what you say with facts, if you can show me ship that is tangible that I can see that I could believe, then we got We can have a conversation. But you can't give me theories and conspiracy theories in an opinion based on that's

not based on facts. It don't make sense to me, and it's confused to me how it makes sense to somebody else. So dangerous, it's so dangerous, you know, it's so dangerous. And it's very similar to how some of them um not people that were close to but other folds have tried to take little clips of what I say and make it something else, taken out to everybody that I mean, that's that's what I'm trying to say. Man, I've watched some due it to so many different people,

all of our leaders. They take sound bites from everybody to create a narrative. You're the same saying like they if you look, if you watch every um um election, right, every election, I don't get what side you on. They create a commercial that act is the other person. They'll take it sound is the best leader you could think of, the person you support as hell, the upper the opposition will make a video with sound bites, will post some misleading UM stats and all the ship they can to

prove their point. That's part, that's what the job is. But you gotta know the facts when you actually do research, and you care about being right, when you care about our people, for somebody try to do it's for me right. This is crazy. Right. The first time when the first times in history that we actually received a level of justice in this country, Black people have been killed by

police for years. We actually received the level of justice where it was undeniable, where the powers that be couldn't even fix it, they couldn't hide it. It was undeniable in our face. We received that justice. We fought for that justice. Accountability right, We fought for that accountability. We we we and we achieved it. We was with families,

We heard them crying. We did all these things. And to know that is people that I want to believe one the the actual justice and the actual equity for black people, that they really want to see us free. To know that people like that have actually brought in to trying to diminish one of the biggest moments in our history, the turning points in our history. To receive

an equity and justice. They've brought into a false narrative created by people who who want to keep you sleep, who want to keep you divided, who wants you to believe that racism doesn't even exist in America, who wants you to believe that everything is okay, that want to continue to have the rich people getting rich, and those people have created narrative and the people that I believe, I truly believe in my heart actually want the best

for us, have grabbed onto that. It's really disheartened, it's disturbing, it's like it takes a lot of winds out of yourselves when you when you really fight for us for real, when you on this front line and you see that and you're like this is undeniable here, like it's undernia, but like this is it. There's no way that you can you can't hide this. And to see that the enemy is so sophisticated in their strategy to undermine us and deter us that they still make you believe that

what you see you don't even see. Well, they know you because they know that they knew that Candice Songs alone couldn't do it right. Most people don't really listen to her. And the people that's with them, they're never gonna be with us anyway. So hey, they used the individual that they knew had the most clout, if you will, in our community, and they knew he was vulnerable. Yeah, but but also he was vulnerable because he helped to

build a bear. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but he helped to build a bear and then the bear left, right, So he is is he is, His ego is rooms because he put a great deal of time into forcing America to get comfortable with Kim Kardashian Before that, she was okay, but there was probably more black women who didn't really like her and the idea of the Kardashians for a number of reasons, some of them very valid because I know I was certainly one of them, and still to now I could take go

with them or not, like it's not something for me where And you know what, over the years, over the years watching Kim have a very specific passion to get involved with police, I mean that police reformed with um prison reform and and trying to get people free, that has softened me a little bit to understand that, you know, she she does have some type of undersunderstanding or that's what.

That's what. The thing that really hurts me, right is that she's moving close to to consciousness and understanding better understanding the system. So that's kind of softened me to her. But before Kanye got involved with her, I didn't even pay attention to the Kardashians. I knew they existed, but they were not on my radar. He forced us to see her and did all that he could to make her blending with the culture, taking her to the awards,

sitting our front seat, and I get it. When you when you feel like you have invested in something and then it breaks apart and whatever happens you. I get it, your ego is rooms. I get it. We all as humans experience that. But the problem even with it is that there was a time when I know what I saw. I saw Kim Kardashian running the wyoming, crying in the car, looking for him online, you know, and begging people to give him grace because he was going through some things

she went through. We know as women, we watched her go through the process of dealing with somebody who is who has some mental illness issues, but also someone who took her for granted at the time. Then she decided to straighten up her back and do what we do when sometimes we decide enough is enough. And she went on and went back to white people and got her peat.

And you know what, his ego got bruised, and he lost his mind and decided because he is so used to the very same people that he claims BLMS the scam all of this. You know how Kanye made his money the same people that gave the little donations to BLM, that built them their account, them saying people was buying his sneakers and buying his his tickets to his concerts. Okay, So when Kanye tries so old, when ya excuse me, tries to act like he's so different, because I feel scammed.

I got easy, I have easy, I have slides, I have I have supported him over the time. So how about I say that I feel scammed because the reason why I appreciated him is because he stood up and said that George Bush Bush doesn't care about black people. And he did the College Dropout album, and he's had other moments where I felt aligned with him, and I felt like he was aligned with us and our mission. And then he switched on us, and I feel scamped

because we built him, the little people built him. And then he sitting there and say this is the this one right here, and I'm through with this conversation. But this one right here is the one that really makes me laugh. When he says these other people talking about puff and all the folks meet Mill and this person and that. When he's like, I don't they all those people, they don't they get there? What did he say they get their checks? I don't know. He said something about

how they get their checks? Kanye or yeah, excuse me. I gotta get it right. The same people gave you your checks. What do you You might not need to check from those people now, but on your way up to where you sit today, the same folk that write the check over there wrote it to you. The same little people paid for your shoes. And they also are the ones that donated or that out he is supporting to build up movements. What are we talking about? We? I know we're not this crazy. And the only thing

that I can go will It's called willful ignorance. It's called idle worship. And like it's called willful ignorance, is called id the words, and it's called affluenza. This is what this is. The mental issue that he's is affluenza.

And you need to look it up. Is when you reach a certain level of wealth that you don't that you don't think that you have to deal with consequences or you want to acquire wealth in that and that that um need to acquire more wealth and more wealth blind you so much that you you block out consequences and common sense. And when I listened to him, he thinks that he's God. He says, I'm Michael, I control this. I do this I have, I'm the richest black man. All of these things he needs to tell his self

to make himself some type of hole. And he thinks, because of those things that there's no consequences for what he says and does. He thinks that he should be absent from consequences, and that's not a reality. We live in a world where there's free speech. But if you look at even the First Amendment, when it talks about free speech, it says that you are not free from

the consequences that come with such said speech. So you can say what you want to say, you just got to deal with the consequences that come with saying what you say. But they say you can't go into a theater, a crowded theater and say there's a fire. Right because you can say it or you want, you're free to speak it. But if you yell fire and cause confusion, you will be arrested. And if somebody dies as a result of a stampede, your ass is gonna be charged

with whatever kind of criminal act for causing it. But then I saw someone say, and I think that this is so dangerous. The two d and fIF million dollar lawsuit against Kanye would not have happened if he was

not also being charged with being anti Semitic. And what really impacts me for in that from that perspective is that you, as a black person, don't even believe that your own people have enough respect for themselves and enough value to be upset that a man is lying or one of our fallen surgery soldiers that was killed by

the devil. You don't even see enough doubtue, so you will put the power in some other community's hand so that you don't have to face the fact that no, God damn it, he said something wrong about somebody that we fought for. That people damn near died being out there standing up for George Floyd after we watch the life be choked out of him for over nine minute. That's why it has nothing to do with any other community.

And y'all same folks that sit around talking about we can't keep begging and crying about what this one did and that one did. Okay, cool, Let's move that to the side right now. Let's move all of the issues around who got the control and the power and this and and and and his words and and anti semitism and all that. Let's put that to the side. That's just focus on what does it mean when you wear a White Lives Matter T shirt? Who does that impact? And what does it also mean when you start using

white supremacists talking points about your own people. Let's stick with that. No, no, we're not, we're not. We we're not in tells you enough to know that that's wrong, right, So we because so we do. We don't value. We don't have value. We're not supposed to say, yo, that's that we're not supposed to stand up for ourselves. We're not supposed to say, yo, what you're doing is detrimental to us as a movement, as a as a people

who ain't supposed to say that. Good luck, because if you think we ain't supposed to say it, then you're gonna be mad at me because I'm gonna see it every time. Yeah, it's it's actually pretty dangerous. I tell you boy, I'm it's dangerous. But we have a guest today and I'm really excited. I think that what we have to do while we are analyzing all these things, we still have to keep drawing down on what hope

looks like for our communities. And I just want us to be more invested in the beauty of who we are and who we are becoming than allowing people to distract us and throw us off a path of building towards a greater future. And that's what this whole last month has been about. Distractions and people whining and bitching and crying, and men who are supposed to be so strong and so all these brilliant things being weak. That's

what has been the facts. So you know, I have I've been meeting new friends right because as we grow, we've got to find new people to bring into our lives that can help us go the extra mile. Doesn't mean we get rid of all the folks. There's some people you've had to shed along the way. But I don't get rid of all the folks. But you know we add. I disagree with people who say you can't

find new friends late in life. Um, I think that there as you evolve, your needs for support, friendship, mentorship and all of that changes and you have to have new people that come with new perspectives that can help you see through some of your vision and planning. And so I spent a weekend with Coach Stormy and some incredible women from around the country you know, you meet people sometimes in the the space and you're like, where all

these people? The Internet puts you in a fishbowl, man and you And when you're in a fish bowl of the Internet, you think that there was those other people. Know, it's people everywhere, people that are not even online. And I met these incredible women's probably a little more than fifty of us. We spent the weekend together. But when I arrived, I was a little late. Um, I think we were working somewhere, so I was a little late. When I arrived. They were already viral for an incident

that happened between Coach Stormy and our guests today. And it's funny because we talked about this a little bit on the last show. It's funny because from the Internet's perspective, hearing what they heard you, I'm not I can't say, oh, I don't understand anything, because I get how people could have perceived the conversation. But being present with these individuals, you know and get to learn real quick how important that conversation was and also how much love and support

exists among the individuals that had the conversation. And so it makes me laugh because I'm looking at the Internet and I know that people are gonna be triggered by the word hood rat. They're gonna be triggered by that. They can't they can't take that because you know, hood rat has been weaponized against black people, um, you know, to make us like we are less than. And so people, you know, when they hear hood rat, they're ready to go because they're like, yo, I've been called the hood

rat in my life. You know. You know this job I went on, I know they felt we were hood rats. So I get it. It triggers people, and and and what I took away from it is that not every conversation that you have with your friends are people who are listening from the outside going to be able to understand. Because I know me and you, when we talk and there's no camera around, we say whatever we gotta say. And I know that's the case with my girlfriends. I'm like,

what the funk is wrong with you? Like you're still letting this dude just do you whatever kind of way you dummy, Like, you know that's the way I talk. We talked like that, But in front of the Kim, I'm gonna say, since you have to love yourself, right, you know what I mean, you can't just allow someone to but in the quiet private time you as a

dumb asshole like you know, so I get it. However, after spending time with them, I got to learn so much about these women, their relationship, where they came from. And when you know where they came from, it makes the conversation even more clear, makes you get it even more.

And so for today, I'm excited that I have one of the individuals uh in that conversation to be here and be a part of this dialogue and to be our guests, and that and and and and by the way, the journey of our guests today is so so, so so powerful because this is a woman who went from being homeless to building from scratch a home for her and her children and starting all over again in life. So I am so excited to welcome Arthur inspirational speaker, mentor,

millionaire coach. Listen, She's a mentor and a millionaire coach, um and a mama and her name is Tammy. They call her Tammy with the T which she's gonna tell us all about and her story is making a global impact. Thank you so much, Tammy for coming on. Yeah, implication that was hello, I'm grateful to be here, and you know, just with everything going on is to be honest, it's right in time. Sometimes we say things the right on time, but it's right in time, and um, you know, I'm

just I'm here. We're celebrating a lot this week. Yesterday we celebrated our anniversary of being in the house. Um, being in the house one year closing, and also being in our company that helped me, that made me build this house. I made the income from seven years Saturday, seven years one business besides my personal businesses of course, but one network marketing business. One read like I'm just loyal,

down right loyal. So everybody just won't understand me. And I have to understand that everybody just won't do that. I want to say that I am inspired, you know, to me. Have been talking about you guys and talking about her experience, so you know, I started paying attention.

And then when the video came on yesterday, she sent this to me and I was like, wow, you know, I was just so motivated just looking at the family, just looking at what you've been through, just hearing your story, and I just want to know that what you represent is black excellence. To me, you know, it's it's it's perseverance is overcoming it's being at the bottom and not giving up on yourself and believing in yourself so much that it didn't matter how much nobody else didn't believe you.

And to hear your kids testimony what they went through and how proud it was, I mean I brought a low tear in my eyes. Them kids make a third cry doll that I mean. You know. So what I want to know is like, what what was the process? Like? Give us because they said you went through these things? Like what was your process? Where did you come from? Give us a little bit of background to get where you got to where you are perfect. Um so my background is literally like my mom died when I was

nine years old. Um, I never knew my dad. I never seen his faith at all. And I knew that I was special. I knew that I was different, you know. And I always lead as a little girl that I would be able to grow up and tell my story and tell my testimony to help other people. I've been saying it, but um, I went through like an identity crisis. I went through an identity crisis. Especially your mom died and nine years old. Just imagine UM my little son

that y'all seen in the video. Just imagine me gone, Like I couldn't even imagine that. I'm not gonna put that image in my nation. But UM, I started with small beginnings. And my mom died at nine and she gave me over to my second mom, which is my ainte for main and she literally just died in July. So, UM, I took a lot of losses in my life and I had to prove. I always believe in God, I always had faith. I believe in Jesus. I'm saved, I'm

all of that. But I just didn't believe that I was supposed to be broken, I was supposed to be sick, and I was supposed to be without. I just knew that my life was full of purpose, that everything was happening for me. It wasn't happening to me. And so I got married at a very young age UM and divorced. I'm divorced now, but I got been married at a very young age trying to feel the family boy that

I didn't have. UM. I started working a job. I had my my daughter UM at the age of seventeen, and you know, I'm really one of the ones that can identify with every kind of pain, every kind of hurt from women or men. I'm not a man, but I know hurt pain. It is not prejudice. And so I just wanted to prove to my younger self that I can make it out everybody. Some of my people I grow with still stuck. They still stuck, they don't know what to do. They still overweigh, they still not

operating a purpose. They just think they're supposed to pay bills and die. And so I'm very grateful that one of the things that I've been able to do was just find myself. And so this journey, long story short, has been it's been. It's been very challenging. It's been been challenging. But I wanted this, and sometimes we have to remember what we want it. Like I wanted this, I had to go through me to get to that's

just what it is. And so I moved to Dallas and about two thousand and five, UM when UM at the end of two thousand and four, when I was prayed it with my daughter, I moved to Dallas with my brother. My brother took care of me. UM that's when I met my ex husband, so started this big old family. This is the second house I built. I built a hundred thousand pound my house back in two

thousand and nine. And I went through a lot with that, going through in relationships and thinking that he is your provider. He's not my provider. God is my provider. But when he got paid, I got paid. So I didn't know how to provide for myself. I didn't know how to log in and pay a light deal. I didn't know these things. Everybody always did something for me, but I didn't do nothing for myself. And um in two thousand

and fifteen, I remember my dad died. I never met him in my life, and this was the para God shift that happened to me. I never knew my dad. I've never seen his face. I looked for him. I found him in two thousand and fourteen. He died in two thous fifteen. I had one father, stayed my whole life. For what everybody else celebrate, I never celebrate it. Everybody else that celebrate Mother's Day very difficult for me to celebrate Mother's Day, not because I'm not a beautiful mother,

but because I don't have money. And so that was the shift. I literally prayed for my dad to come into my life. And I'm sorry if I get emotional, but I prayed for my dad to come into my life. And I kept looking. I kept looking somebody at that job. I was like, said, look one more time, No, one more time, just do it one more time. It may just beat the time. And I found him. He told me everything I needed to know that field, every boy. And he died right after that. And then I was like,

then we was going through a divorce. Right after he died, I was in a very dark place. Two hundred pounds five feet no inches, two hundred pound just imagined. Um, I was losing it and I didn't know what I was gonna do. And um, my children's father called me one day and he said, it's a lady on Instagram that I want you to look up. She got this bottle in her hand, she's selling the product and she made seven, I mean a million dollars in seven months.

Her name is Stormy Wellington, and I want you to look her up because y'all you remind me of her. And she's speaking on all these stages and you already speaking front of ten thousand people at church it's just you. You need some type of help. And my my children's father told me that, and I researched Stormy Wellington and I reached out to her and she said, call me on my direct line. Is something special about you. I believe that you can do this business with me, and

UM I started the business. I became one of the biggest testimonies in the company. I lost the weight on the products. Um My skin cleared up on the products. And I would go from city to city and show up to every bit and I would be like, this is what this is working. He's working, he's working. And I kept going and growing in UM for four years, I made like a hundred fifty thousand m I just year or just for four years, total one fifty and that fifth year we did one point two million dollars.

People started flooding my business, flooding my organization making money. What do you think it was the chef? What was the change? The shift was me being in the at the right place at the right time, and it was time. It was timing and positioning. Like people already knew me for being consistent. Nobody wants to inconsistent. Later, like where are we taking like you can google me, like you can look at my history and my past and see that I kept going. I was consisted and I was committed,

and people just was like, let's go. And then around that time we got locked in the house. Everybody was trying to uh, you know, get healthy at that time, and they knew I was temping with the tea and all of that, which you'll get into because taming with the tea is not even the tea that we drink. I was temping with the team before I joined the business. That's another deep story too. But you know, there after the after the uh coronavirus whatever what it was, the pandemic.

After the after the pandemic, we made another one from bid me um. So it wasn't it wasn't the pandemic because we did. We still make money today. M hmm. Well, I think people's mentality shifted, Like you said, they knew they had to be healthier, and so I think the pandemic started a lot of people uh them becoming more healthy, I mean well conscious of health because you knew that you couldn't return to what you were doing before, especially

if you didn't want to die from get catching coronavirus. Um. You know, but but but I do think to your point, it was, yes, you could, you could build off the pandemic, but in order for people to stay with you, you have to have something special. It's not you know, They're not just with the same thing just because it was the pandemic. No, they they tried different products, they went different places, and they found what they loved. Yeah, it

was consistency and persistency, Yes, I was. I would I would say that it was definitely consistency because in order to you, you gotta help somebody else succeed if you want to succeed in our company. Um. And that's actually a principle in life. You can't go nowhere by yourself. You can only go so far. So that that's what happened. And I was like, you know, um, it's very painful, very very painful to keep telling my kids. No, very pained me to tell them they could only have one

Christmas guilt. It just pay me to tell them that we had to go bay that race track or seven and eleven paying me to eat noodles every day they pay me. And I knew I had to shield and I knew I wasn't the only woman in this world that was dealing with you. I knew I wasn't. I knew I wasn't, but I had to help my family

first before I can help thousands of us. Listen listening to your son, you know, and him saying, you know, I remember we didn't have no food, and you know I had to do all these things, but you know you always supported me, and you can now you've got We got all of this. And I watched, like him, seeing you grow. You know, I've seen that look in

your face, and I know what that looks. I know I've been a the little kid in the house that didn't have nothing, you know what I'm saying, and being motivated. So when you actually see you know, your mother or the person you love excel to that next levels, it's a gratifying feeling and it's going to motivate him because he knows we're not having has and then he knows the process that takes to get to that, you know.

So what I what I want to know is you know you you've done this, and now what was the process to building this house, like watching this house to be like seeing it from scratch? Like how did you say, you know, I want to build this house here, Like, like what was your mind stick about it? So throughout, um, throughout my journey, I went to different events, I went to different dream days, and I always had that I'll

tell you or not. I had a tan chevallet. It was tanning black or tanning brown, and that's where we lived there. And so I was like, my house is gonna be like tan in white, like black and white. So I went to a different events and I started seeing what what I like. I was like, oh my god, I like the stairs, I like I like these I like this home. You know. I was inspired because once you see something, you can't unsee it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. So like once you're you're seeing

this right now, you can't unsee this. So you know, Um, I started going to different dream days and I started dreaming bigger, much faster, and I was just like, it's time to do it for the culture. It's time to show the people what we can do. Like I said, it paid me to tell my son, No, it paid me that that. I went through a divorce and I'm trying to raise two boys and I'm a mom and it's like, I'm not a man, like, I'm not one of the women, like I'm a very peculiar woman, and

I'm not one of the women's. I got it. I got it. I'm gonna raised him. I'm not right. No, not me, No, I need help. I need help, you know. And so that kind of pushed me and drives me. My pain pushes me. It don't pause me. And so I start going to these different events with Stormy. You have to be like this big time leader to come to dream Day. And she gave me so much grace.

She was like, you ain't making but three or four hundred dollars a week, but I want you to come to Miami and come to this dream Day and come look at somebodyse million dollar mansions. Um you, you and your kids, you know, up in a car, like you need to get you some money, Like who's in your life that's gonna challenge you and and and tell you need to get you some money. You you really need to do something with your life, like and that's kind of what I did. So I started seeing stuff and

everything you see was in my head. First I went to these different mansions. I think chandeliers, I think white floors, I want to storey. How she had these marble tops and gold everywhere. I'm like, wait, gold, it's my favorite color. And then I wanted my house to be very heavenly, very heavenly, very open, very bright. And it's just a lot to it because my first house, when I was married, it was very dark. The funitial was dark, the refrigerator was dark. Ship I was dark. And I was just like,

I don't want the more dark furniture. I don't want none of that. If anything black is in my house, it's going to bring out the white. That's it. So I literally it was. It was a battle. I started making all this money and I called, uh, my relatory, and I was just like, let's get the looking. Let's get the looking. Looked at several spots, even bought land from like sixty grand at the time, thinking I'm gonna build on it. I had to go through different processes.

So I'm actually write a book about how I built my house and ground up because nobody has done what I've been able to do. Yeah, I mean and and and it's not something it's not easy for people like us and where we come from to get to the place that you build from the ground up. A lot of people think it's impossible, like you, I could never do it, and look you, you know you were able to accomplish it. So tell us about Tammy with the Team.

You mentioned it and I thought it was Tammy with the Team the drink, So okay, what tell us Timmy with the T. Branding is everything, Timmy? The T is teaching, encouraging, and we all advanced together. That's my that that was my brand um before I started a company. I teach, I encourage, and I help people advance. But I was like,

I'm tired of helping people advance. I need the advance too, because they'd be a part of the problem in business and ministry and whatever you do, you you you poor to make it, you poor, you give, you keep going, you keep giving, giving, giving, and then you look around your life like, dang, I'm not advancing. But the girl I just preached you just up, Mercedes, So why are we not advancing together? So I just was like, Okay, I'm doing all this teaching. I'm teaching things I know,

I'm teaching things I don't know. I just have wisdom and I encourage and we ad thank all of a sudden, I've made it to the top of my tea company, but I was tavy with the tea before my tea company. Okay, yeah, it was talked about network marketing, and you know, I know so many people that want to know more about it because you guys are getting a lot of screen time if you will, and it's making people who didn't even know about this type of business focus. So talk

about that, the the the multi level marketing. How has how did you get engaged? And then what has the process been? Yes, um, the process. Most people think that this is like hitting the lottery, and it almost se is because if you make a decision too, if you make a decision to lock in and show up and go to work, you can't make it in this industry. I never did network marketing before. I do not beg people to do this. Like if people won't GOOCHI, they'll

go to Gucci and buy it. But what makes my and our network market is so powerful is that we have life changing products. So it's not just what everybody else is doing. You know, I'm sorry, no shade or anything. I just I couldn't sell like a lot of lipsticks and stuff like I don't want to pink Cadillac. I wanted to beat me, So our wants are different, you know what I mean. I may sell my own lipstick coming soon. I may sell my own perfume coming soon before.

Another company is like I want to be able to make money for my family, and they don't hold us in a box. So network marketing is literally network and marketing, Like, this is what we're doing right now, we're networking together. I didn't know you before. Now now I feel like I got a friend in you. You know, I don't. I didn't know you, but now we're marketing. Was in the market there. So that's what network marketing is. And

I started. I didn't know what to do. Let me, let me be real honest with people are listening to me. I never did network marketing before. I didn't like it when people showed up in my daughter to my col who want to buy some cookie though, I hated it. But our company has products that work, it is affordable. It changed my life, so why not sell it? If if I used to brush too paste every day, why not sell it? If I know I need to lose weight or detox or be on a by vitamin, then

why not sell it. So it just makes sense. That's just it. Like everybody that's ever been a part of our company knows that the products work and that would make money. They may not help. You only sell the products that you have used that you know work. I sell all of our products in our company. But that's the that's the difference between another company and our company.

I don't know about nobody else company because I've only been in my company for seven years, but I know that what you got me going for somebody that never did it before, never sold nothing. UM Network Marketing is the place to be like. And then I got I got in front of the leaders, like I'm like Stormy driving a Rolls Royce. She didn't even have a she didn't even graduate high school. She got three kids, got

her own house. I was inspired by the other leaders, and I was around other leaders at the time going to the events. They were sitting at the front. I was sitting at the bag, and they was like had these big old rings on their fingers and they had like made a two dred fifty thousand. I thought that was a lot of money back then. And you know, I was just saying it along the way, right because you, because I don't want people to hear this and think, oh,

she saw material things. No, you have already been in the ministry, so you covered one part you you had already covered the soul work, the work of fighting through trials and tribulations, and at this point you're ready for your prosperity. And it's literally nothing wrong with that, nothing at all. I don't know where it came from, but we rejected the idea that in order for you to be a leader and to help people, uh and to be in certain type of mission work, that you have

to be poor and destitute and busted. We were. I don't know where that came that. That's what I said before. I was like, I knew before I started this company. I knew I was not supposed to be broke, and I was not supposed to be sick. Be a Bible, be a Bible. I came that you may have light and had it more fundantly, light that is not sick, and abundance is more than enough. I'm supposed to have

more than I serve more than enough. God. I don't sell a guy, I don't serve a God who I'm supposed to be ashy looking crazy, feed my kids noodles. That was just a part of my process. They don't got to be a part of my purpose. So so don't get it twisted. It was time for my prosperity. And I knew that God couldn't use me on a big scale and expansion that he's using me in the capacity that he's using me now, because it's all him.

If I was broke, busted and disgusted and just running around the church every day saying God won't make away, No, I'm gonna make away. Yeah, I'm gonna make the way, and gets the way is already prepared for me. He's the way. So I'm gonna make the way. And I gotta make some decisions to be prosperous. So I chose my vehicle network marketing. Network marketing because even in my ministry and and the things that I do in P s A. I need people. I need a team of people.

We get a lot further when it's a team that's right. So that's what I learned. Network marketing is that you gotta network and whatever business you're doing, no matter what, you gotta network with people and you gotta market with you're selling. That's all that we do. And I'm listen. I'm glad, y'all listen to me. I'm so glad that you're grabbing into Mika because this is what I've been

telling her. I'm like, there's so many people that's profited to offer your intellectual property and offered everything that you have. And and she the thing is, she's such a selfless person and she does this genuinely and in her mind,

she don't want you to think she's profiting. And I'm like, it's not bad that the fact that you provide a service, you provide energy, you provide so much to people, and you don't want to utilize that to make sure that you provide it for And she's really you know, it's hard as hell to get her to promote herself. She don't want to market, she don't want to do interviews. She she like, I don't want to do nothing. Like she's rejected money, like people trying to raise money and

she's like, yo, I don't want to raise none. She's cut off her cash at for people trying to donate, like I'm not taking no more money from people. And I'm like, yo, you're doing too much work not to like you said to have abundance. So I'm glad that y'all grabbing her and she's starting to get into the realm. Like, you know what, I've done so much for twenty five years. I've given so much to people, my family, the people

with my grand I got a granddaughter. Now I'm supposed to leave them a legacy to where they don't have to go through the things that I went through. So I'm glad as I eat my cuties. This interview is not about me. It isn't, but I just want to because it's good. I'm glad that people. I am very blessed. I'm very blessed, blessed abundantly, and I thank God for

all the blessings. But I'm also traumatized, right like I deal with a lot of trauma from the attacks that we are constantly taking about you know, how we should look and whatever, and where we should go and who we should be around, and how much money we should have and things and this, and that I'm growing out

of it. I'm beginning to understand that somewhere along the line, we relied to and people try to make us believe that your purpose and and and the and the and the purpose to serve is is aligned with being broke, and I know that that's actually not true. So I'm trying to do better. And I think that it's a good thing that my approach has been very humble. UM, But I also know that sometimes you gotta kind of step out of that overly humble space in order for

you to achieve what it is that you deserve. So I'm working on it, and I want to say something about that, um, because of the week. Let me let me just say that to make it is very special. UM. When I met her two weeks ago, her spirit is just it just drew me. It's mana but I don't know the word. I don't know that word. It's just beautiful. Yeah, it's just words because we all learned the word because it's just a you. It was like this magnetic it

was and I was like, it's something about her. She's so beautiful, she's so sweet, she's so humble, so quiet. But it's like we have to understand that. Um, we gotta accept what happened to us and move forward because nobody wants to wake up trying to figure out nobody. Nobody gets up and cell but oh my god, the lights out today. Oh my god, my kids don't hand going to either day. Oh my god, I gotta ride the bus today. Nobody wants to be broke. Nobody wants

to be lacking. Nobody wants to be without. Anybody that hates on money don't have no. So at the end of the day, unfortunately you have to go through some trauma and some some critics and the creatures that that are talking about you, they don't have what you have, so you have to steal. Let the people know all of this. It's not about me bragging. This is just to show you that you can have it too. And when you know who you are, you know who you are not so uh, somebody that's in the projects can

be like him. And how don't she do a show off our house? Show off our house? And that's the same person I'm trying to get to get her know she can get out of projects. So it's just perspective. It's just perspective. So you know, um, I totally understand. I get it. People love my humility, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like God ain't bless me, because I'm very, very blessed. And it's more to calm so talk about the hood back. It's so funny because

you were there. I was saying, listen, I laughed so hard. The other day, I'm watching the story right, and uh, I'm so glad that I got to meet story before that and before this incident, so that I can have my own perspective. I'm with my son and I were from the hood, like we know the hood, we go to hood. We lived still with people our community, theiyhood as hell. That's what we did, and we have to

we have to sometimes. We gotta catch ourselves and the just even our own thinking and speaking, because it just is what it is. This is our that's our foundation. So it doesn't really impact me the way that it would others. But I'm listening to the story the other day and she's talking. She was washing the face and using her products and promoting her products, and she goes, and you know something about dark um uh you know marks a dark rings under people's eyes. And she goes, yeah,

because you know your hose with them. She said, I can't be calling y'all hose while selling the products and promoting the brand and trying to get you to get your skin together. And I have because that's just her personality. It's just the way that she speaks. And so listening to you guys talking about that plate and your plate and you said you were ad you were two hundred pounds five feet two hunted, And so this is your

friend who's been with you through this journey. You know, I've lost the way she's been with you, helping you make sure you fly, got it going on fitness. I saw y'all working out one day. They damn they have killed you. Her and Claudia and work y'all. Y'all it was rough. I was I was stressed, and I was only in the bed journey of helping you get healthier,

get your you know, your sexy on. And then you're sitting up there with this plate with the food running over on all sides, and your friend is who is very she is definitely hood and tool real looks at you and she says, yo, what is that you know and starts talking her stuff that we as friends speak. And it was captured on camera. So tell me by you know, how do you feel in hindsight after now

watching it and listening to some of the commentary. Oh, man, I'm shocked at the comments because everything, Everything that we do is a lesson. So people really think I'm over here getting beat all. They literally think she was like I would have fipped up over Like the comments are hilarious, but people really feel some type of way about my response. And the whole purpose was to show people like I didn't make that plate. I did not make my plate.

That plate was served to me. Chef Anthony's assisted put all that food on my plate. They really did. And one thing I want to talk about, I want to say this is that what who's putting what on your plate? Like I got the lesson out of it, and I think the world didn't know how, Like we have seven years of a relationship here and somebody else social media telling me to leave my culture alone, somebody I've been having around me for a year or two telling me

to leave my culch alone. And you just coming into my life when I'm in the Bentley and in the home like like nah, Like you just forgave your dude, You just forgave that girl. You just keep forgiving your supervisor and their job. They keep telling you can't go see your sick kids games. So at the end of the day, it's like Storm was not being booed to me. I know how she talked. She was just saying, why you let that man put all that food on your plate?

That's it, Like, that's basically all this was about. It was about you putting all somebody else putting all the food on my plate. Somebody else putting their bills on my plate. Somebody else want to borrow my call. That's putting it up on my plate. Somebody else need counseling. That's putting something off on my plate. Somebody else needs to borrow ten thousand or thousand five hundre. That's putting something else on my plate. So where else is your plate?

Over running and over cool? You know? So I looked at it like that. So my response came from I understood what she saying, but I was like, even though they put it on my plate, storm I don't have I have the discipline not to eat it, or we got to t that if I do choose to eat it, then it's gonna come out anyway. But she was trying to teach me a lesson like she always do. And every time she teached me a lesson, I take it and I go explain. So who cares what everybody else

the same, but I understood it from their perspective. She said, that's a hood red plate. She didn't call meal hood wrack about your coach called your hood right, No, she didn't, she said, And that's why I eat place that's low vibrational. Uh, we do, we could eat. We were talking. We do we do? Hey, wait that Thanksgiving? You know what the thing for me is, you know, looking at that and hearing that I played sports right, and the best coaches

I ever had, they ain't sugarcoat. You got have the court. They said you was a bum. You ain't ship. You ain't doing nothing. He out there killing you sit on the side, and and every and and that motivated me to get back in the game and do work. Like everybody needs a different type of code. I don't need friends to to pat me on the background. I need you to motivate me. I need you to. You might have to say some ship to me and say, yo, you ain't you ain't doing what you're supposed to do.

Like everybody ain't gonna tiptoe around tulips. You know what I'm saying. And that's not the relationship you have. And I'm looking at you You're not no weak woman. You ain't nobody that somebody gonna push overtly. You understand saying so. And that's why I'm glad that you are intelligent enough and emotionally intelligent enough not to allow then they say and all of the bullshit to interact or interfere with the relationship that you got with somebody that you know

where that comes from. I thank you for that, because I did have some good messages Tammy. Your response was, it's like none other. I don't know nobody that would have responded like you, like literally got the lesson thin in it because I know who I was dealing with. I know what I'm talking to. My coach is not to hurt me. She is to love me. My coach is to help me. My coaches to show me where I'm going wrong. You gotta remember, if you lose the

football game, it falls on the coach. If you win the football game, it falls on the coach or the leader, or the quarterback, the main person everybody's looking at right. So that goes for me too. That's how I train. I'm not easy on my people. I'm not easy on Sheila. I'm not easy on the trees. I'm not I'm not easy on cal I'm not easy on my leaders either. Like we got work to do. If if storm I've made I've earned well over three million dollars, right, Stormy

has made well over fifty million. If she says I don't need all the food, you gotta learn how to humble yourself because of what I DESI see I want to make twenty five million in the next five years. So somebody that already made fifty million twice is what I am going trying to get and gonna get and moving towards it. This is like why you why, why? Why? Everything you gotta be upset? Is so many people left this woman that's getting to it. So many people left

this woman. She's helped make millions and millions and millions of dollars, and because she didn't say something right and because she didn't do something right, they all gone. They all left. But you know people here, But you know what, Tammy. Everybody is not for everybody. Some people can't get what they need from certain people. I know the type of person that I am, and that's why I get Stormy and you, and I'm able to blend in with your um with the group because I'm I can be kind

of harsh. Shoot, you know what I'm saying. I know I can. I grew up in an environment where you couldn't really have a lot of weakness. You know what I'm saying. And I'm not Let me be real clear, I'm not saying that anyone who says the way in which uh Stormy communicates or Tammy or Tamika is not for me. I'm not saying their week right. They just need something different. People need something different. I'm saying the way I grew up my mama had a heavy hem.

Some of the things that my mother said to me. I won't even repeat it because you know, I don't want to because now and now that she's seventies some seventies seven, actually she'll be She is seventy seven years old. Just turned seventy seven years old last week. My mother is the sweetest angel. And people when I tell them of the things that happened in my life as a child, they go, not Miss Miss Mallory would never say those

things to you, Baba babay. When I was fifteen and I was out here doing god knows what, that lady was saying things to me in a language that I don't even know. She knew curse words that I never heard before, and the way she put the curse words together, it got me. It got me to where I'm sitting in this moment. But some people can't. That's not what they need. Some people need someone who speaks to them in a different way. That's why they are coaches and

teams that fit individuals and their personality. And we have to be okay with that, and then we and we are okay with that. And I appreciate people that correct me. I appreciate people that be like, nah, like tear me off. Like before my mama died, she was like, we was in the hospital. She was in the hospital. She was like, you gaining weight, ain't you ain't on your team no more, like my mama told me before she died, you're getting fat. Like that's like that's how she all like, that's what

she don't mean. She don't love me no deeper or no or or any less. Like that's how she talked, you're getting fat. She basically saying, get back on the stuff. Don't don't let me being sick, don't let our circumstances and everything that I'm going through, make you get out of what you know you're supposed to be doing for herself. So at the end of the day, it's like, that's just who she is and everybody can't handle it. Every everybody don't Everybody don't like toy kitch up with refrigerator

something like it in the pantry, and that's what it is. Man, you know, I'm cool with that. But this is what got me where I met right now. So you know, God's great, God's grace, his mercy, correction. People showing me that there was a better way. People showing me there was more money to make you know, um, people showing me like and even storm, showing me that she needs me to m m not just heard. That's not just me needing her. My sister need me to you know

what I mean. She needs my annoying team too. I'm onna assignment. She needs what I bring to So when you know who you are, you know who you are not. I'm not gonna drag and leave and and and act the food because some strangers, even some family members want me to. No. No, because the same money she told me, Timmy speak like this on a call. Don't don't speak all angry means speak like this on a call. Get get a little bit more peace than humble about yourself.

Straighten up a little bit, put on a suit jacket a little bit, you know, cover up a little bit. Them type of corrections, and me implementing them took me where I'm at. And I said this last week, I didn't have to implement nothing for me. Taught me nothing. I didn't have to implement nothing. I didn't have to implement how I speak. I don't have to implement how I look. I didn't have to I didn't have to put nothing to work for me. I could have still been back there where I was, but I chose to

apply what was taught. And that's where we are here today. So I know that. So you know the hood rap thing, I'm very I'm from the country, and it's like I knew my culture on callingment hood rast she was just like we queens is we queens don't let don't don't don't. She was basically in my mind, I didn't hear what

everybody else heard. I heard on let nobody to put all their food or your plate, queen, So tell us tell everybody about your company where they can find you your social media, all those things so that they can get in tune with you. Tammy with the T yes um, you can google Tammy with the T. But my Instagram is Tammy Price underscore. My Facebook is Tammy Price. I'm Tammy Price all of the board, Tammy Price underscore on

TikTok um just Tammy Price, you know. But Prayer Sacrifice Action is my my one of my brands, my business, my ministry. Um, my prayer Conference that that took us, got us, keep us, you know, kind of molded together. So Prayer Sacrifice Action ons um on all platforms. Wow, we we appreciate you. And I just want to say, continue to grow, continue to preach this ministry like you glowing. You're given. It's given. Thank You's giving. What's game? Is

it given? What to make? Tammy? Sammy is my girlfriend? Okay, because I got me a husband. Sammy is my girlfriend. She's gonna be with me. So me and to me. You got a thing going on. So don't be bamy. It's not single. Don't believe that it's not single single. I said, so I tried to help you all. Listen. I said she was my girlfriend. I did not say that her girlfriend back, I just was mine. I'm not married, but I'm think I'm not sick. But I keep this

right here. If I'm not wearing my big company read, I keep this on my wedding. It's a butterfly, and butterfly means God is with me, and butterfly means that there's a process to everything. There is a process. Don't force it because your relationship right now, like we can talk about so much today, but your relationship area right now maybe in the cocoon stage, and nobody wants to take a picture with a cocoon because it's kind of

wrapped up in isolated. But when a butterfly come out, everybody wanted everybody want to take a picture with the butterfly, but nobody want to take a picture with the one that was on the caterpillar stage. You know, they're just muddy and nasty. Nobody like me back, dear, But now you know they an't went back then they want that's my girlfriend. You know what I said? It all relations and thank your life, more life, more life, blessings and

all the things. Those beautiful children. Uh, there's clips throughout the show with their words to you. It's just powerful, you look good, you are good, your heart is good. And don't take I'm a tooth second, I can tell up, oh yeah, I'm in. And it didn't take me but a few minutes to find my people among your group, and in fact, everyone was wonderful. But they are always people who stick out, folks who become you know, they really grabbed your heart and you touched me deep um

and just just your whole story. And I knew I loved you. I knew it. We we enjoyed one another so much. You were there, you helped me. It was like I was being protected and and and shown the way. But then when I saw your video yesterday, I said, Okay, God, that's it. That was it. It was a real reason for us to be connected. And I know we're gonna

do incredible things together. I know it. I'm happy about it, and I'm just I'm just so proud of you and want you to know that thank I'm grateful for your trials. I'm grateful for your trials because I know that without those trials and tribulations, we would not be sitting here with you being such an inspiration for the world. So everything we've been through the dark places. We just have to thank God to thank you for taking me through a dark place so that I could be light, not

just see the light, but actually become light. And you are light, my love, Oh my God, thank you so much to me. You gotta go here crying. Lord, they're gonna put that all the shade route. Boy. Listen, viral, they say, just so viral. Worry about the rest of it later. So hey, thank you so much. You You're so amazing. Thank you all for having me. Um, you know so much. We could talk about so so many different things that we could do together. This is not it.

It's just the beginning. So let's take it and let's wrong with that. Let's do what we gotta do. Whatever I gotta do, whatever I gotta go for you. Um, then I'll do that. I know. I know, I love you. I love you so I just love you. Know I love miss and Timmy. I know it's controversy or I get it people and say, whoa, I'm not weak, And you know I still feel that the way in when she was speaking, and I have friends, I got close friends that were like, nah, I ain't cool with this,

Like we can actually your own good The realitiest. You don't got to be cool with somebody else's situation, right, and it ain't your situation, like you understand saying like you might sit there, you're watching a relationship, You're watching your friends relationship, and they might be cussing each other, but that's their love language. They got there. Everybody got their own love language. So but but some love languages can be toxic. I mean they can. Don't think in

this situation, they don't look toxic to me. Benefit I think they both benefit from this relationship. I think the tough love that they have, they might speak to each other in a manner that it's not comfortable for everybody else, but it's comfortable for them. I don't think when I watched the situation, it didn't look like at any point she felt like she was being belittled or anything. She was fonded and she moved on past it. The world

got more angry about her. Yeah, and sometimes people from the outside looking in can see things that you don't necessarily see. But I'm I'm not just an outsider. I'm an outside of who happened to be on the inside while this was taking place. And I can assure you that the love and support among those women is very powerful. And I don't. I'm not. I'm not as concerned with the idea that you know, and I guess from Tammy's perspective,

because this is her leader. You know, people have left, and people have you know, had different issues and they fell out with Stormy and this and that, and I get it, you know, And she says very clearly that she had some issues that may have created challenges within those relationships, because we have to be accountable about that, right But and I and I don't help. I don't think there's anything wrong with leaving a relationship that you

feel is no longer serving you. But those people who do stay behind, those people who you can tell there's been progressed. We gotta be we gotta be flexible enough to sit back and say that's what works for them, and then you just gotta go find what works for you. It doesn't have to be complicated to the point where we analyze what is best for another person. We just have to find what's best for us. Because while we sit and analyze and cut it up, read it, do this,

and do that. In the third we're missing valuable seconds of getting our own ship together. And that's a fact, man, And that brings me to um my little I don't get it. You know, we've we've talked about so many things. At the beginning to show, we talked about, you know,

all of Kanye how is dangerous? And I think it just comes down to, how are we still in the same position years after Marl Luther King, years after Malcolm X. Why are we still failing for the same tricks while we still philing for the same strategies that the enemy utilizes against us. Every movement we've had, they've accused the leaders of stealing, of scamming, of doing all the things. They called the panthers drug dealers, they called model the King a sellout, a coom, Malcolm was a track every

day utilize. There's not one leader that we had that actually did anything that they didn't discredit every every movement they tried to discredit, and we still failing for the

same tricks. And the fact that we're in the time where you know what I'm saying, we just seen one of the biggest movements overall in civil rights history that kind of shifted the consciousness of America to acknowledge well, black people have of the world of the world to acknowledge where black people in America have been experienced in forever.

You know, and we now at a time when people are trying to undo that, like and and it's people that look like us people and people who are being used the webinars against us, for people who who constantly keep telling my wirds money from BLM eighty million dollars and and and they have websites where you can go to the website and see where the money is being allocated to. You can see that they they have nine nineties and federal audits and all these things that show

that there's no wrong doing. They want to ignore that because for some reason, us as a people, we want to believe that our people don't have our best interesting. We want to believe that our people are negative. It's some of us, not all of us. There are there are a dynamictain a certain dynamics, but those people. Poison

is supportant. It spreads up poison, right it. You know, even the fact that we will show you know, Canvas Owns documentary, which is nothing but fabrication, and you know, and U soundbites and theories from people who already want to believe we like we They have had experts that told us that that, scientists who have proven scientists who try to tell us why you know, um, black people were inferior, they had did whole studies on So when you bring these white people that tell you these things

that negatively support the undermining of the murder of a black man in the street, and you put that on the screen, and you and you, and you spread that around and you give it to people who whose level of discernment isn't that high, who takes whatever they see on media or social media or or that the news says as evidence in chief, and they grab onto that. Now,

why why are we falling for that? Why why don't we love us enough not to continue to fall for We spoke about ever you talk about the blacks and me talking about why did you talk about the Jews? You talk about the agents, you talked about all of them.

But they've never fed in two any rhetoric that made them less there, right, they they've never attached they never attacked their own people that literally fall on their behalf and and and question them and call them thieves and scamp That's never happened, and and and and and I don't know if I would say it's not I'm just saying I don't see. Well, I'm just saying it's not.

Never we have to be it because I think, especially when you talk about white people in general, there's been some you know, they're there have been allegations of different things. So I'm been talking about you know, I'm talking about I'm talking about the people, the leadership. I'm not talking

about this billionaires. And they say, because you've got white people who are saying that Trump is that he's no good, that he's a thief, that he's a We're not a thief, excuse me, that he is m a criminal, right, And they have taken a very strong position against him. And you got they've taken a strong position against him because there's evidence that exists that shows it, right, like, there

have been criminal charges waged against him. All the ship that they said about us, there's never been no there's no criminal charges, I mean no parst of all. I agree with you. I agree with the essence of what you're saying. I just think we the way in order for you to be able to explain it properly, we just have to be clear. They have bought charges against

against black people, black panthers. Uh, you know, certain individual leaders, they have bought charges against them as black leaders, and people got behind that and they agreed most of the time it was unfounded, but it has happened. And I get your point is that with Trump, we know for sure that he actually did the crime, right, we know that, So I I understand your point. I'm just saying that there are factions in every race where they are buried.

They they condemned their own. But to your point, we the way in which we do it and the ways in which we who are people that are supposed to believe in the same things, and yet we find ourselves getting caught in condemning and and and sort of align in ourselves, whether we realize it or not, with the very people that we all say we're fighting. That doesn't make sense. It's like it's like they're those individuals who maybe with it like white folks, which you know is

very broad. They they they're fighting. They're fighting against the people that Donald Trump is supported by and the mentality that he has, and so they're gonna call him out. They're not going to start calling out people who they think are actually with them in the fight, even though they may not be doing things exactly how it should or how they feel it should be done. So it's it's like we just go with the flow. Not all of us, but some of us just go with the

flow because we don't like somebody already. I already don't like you, because I don't like you, I don't like my son. And then the next thing, you know, we just become a part of the chorus with the same people that like like. You know, I'm not gonna mention your names, but there was you was going back and forth with somebody that we know, and and you ask it personally, why do you think they still where did

you get this evidence from? And they said, well, it's been this and that, and they said, well, I'm sure if I look, I can find it. And your response was the fact that you've already made up your mind before you even went to look, and you and you sure that you can find something. That means you already

have a preconceived notion. And that's very dangerous. The fact that the fact that you haven't seen it, you don't got the evidence of your hand, you you haven't represented, but you've already made up your mind that a person is guilty of something before you've even seen it. That's where that's where the issue is for me. I think that's what and and that's what we do with our people. We we in our community. As soon as somebody says

you've done something wrong, that's all they need. That's like, and it be be our own people like you know, I've had people turned on me and run around and turn people that are I've stolen money and I'm doing all this And and then when they for is any with the fact, they all get the facts. They all get the facts like no, no, he didn't do this, and you're like, no, you know he that's not even this organization. You know, he's not attested at all. This

is organization. This is what they do this and they're like, oh no, now he And then when you then they so they so engulfed in that lie. They want they want to believe that negativity about you, somebody that they

supposedly known and have been around their whole life. They want to believe that negativity so much that it hurts them to have to acknowledge that is wrong, you understand, And and that's that ship is scary to me, Like, that is so scary to me that our people will hold on to a false narrative about someone based off their own personal biases, even when face with facts and evidence. Yeah, it's really I just don't get it. It really bothers me. I don't get it at all. It's a mental condition name,

it's a mental conditioning. We all have it, we all deal with it. It's a mental conditioning. And you know, once you are in the line lights, whatever the hell that means, once you have influence in a platform, you begin to see it and understand it different way differently, very different, very different. Well with that said, man, we've had another dope episode. Street Politicians, the number one podcast.

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