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Happy Birthday Mysonne

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This weeks episode we celebrate Mysonne's birthday as well as the release of Tamika's book "State of Emergency". Morever, they speak on qualifeid immunity and legislations that will push the envelope for the black community to be properly represented and treated equally in this country. Also, they have surprise guests call in, such as P Diddy, Fat Joe and members from their organization "Until Freedom" who congratulated Tamika and Mysonne on being important figures in the community and continuing to be leaders and working on the front lines for their people.

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What's that family, I'm your girl to make a d. Mallory and it's your boy might star in the general and we are the host of street politicians, the place where the st and politics meet's good. Oh you know it was good. A lot happening, you know, all at one time. That's how our lives are. Whenever we whenever stuff starts happening, it's just like six things at once. Forget all that. No, but it is no, I mean that's what this is. This is its number one. State

of Emergency has hit the stands. It is the number one book. It is the best number one book. Just like I can't say that because we don't want people to think, oh, they are already number one, and so we don't need That's what I'm trying to say. Look, no, no, you need you a personally, I'm trying to people want to purchase what's number one? This is the number one.

But listen to me. This right here, Look this book right here, State of Emergency How we Win in the country we built, is the number one book on the stands. I'm not just talking about the ratings. I'm not talking about what you know somebody said it was. I'm talking about this is the number one book. If you do not have this book, you're wasting your time. If you are reading, you do not have this book, you are

wasting your time. If you are not a reader, you can get state of emergency because because I'm just about to say, I had a whole thing. If you like to listen to books and you do not have this book, you're wasting your time. The audio version which I got my little part that I didn't said my thing, and it's awesome. This book right here. Listen. My family members sat down and read the book together. They read all of it. You know, obviously we talked about all the time.

My mom's stroke has caused, you know, but she can read. Of course she can read, but it's not the same her attentions then, you know, so she's like she needs that encouragement. So they decided they were going to all focus on the book together, and they all came to the same conclusion that your part was. They didn't say my part was as good as your part. Actually, that's kind of funny. I'm that kind of guy. I want to read some of you know what I'm saying. No,

I don't want to read. I want to I want you to read a little bit, but I'm gonna find it. While you're talking about bottom life. The book is awesome, you know what I'm saying. What she did to get to the book is awesome. The work that she's done, it's awesome. You know, all of the work that she's been doing for twenty plus years is awesome, and that's what led to this book. So I just want to

congratulate you, thank you very much. You know. The thing about it is that the timeline was so aggressive and a lot of people don't know because if they're probably not thinking about it. I mean, if I was someone that heard, Okay, you have a book coming out, I want to assume you've been working on this for a while, right, because that's how I know books to be done. People work and they do a lot of stuff in this situation.

From you know, I made did the speech. I said the speech at what I don't know if if you said it, if you did it, if you delivered that's what you did. You delivered. So I delivered a speech um which was the day after George Floyd had been murdered when we went to Minneapolis, and maybe a month or so later there were people calling agents saying hey, especially um Ashley Antwinette is a young a black sister who was a writer herself, Um, and she had the

idea to say hey. She went to her partner, a gentleman by the name of Mark, and she said, hey, you know, I think we should work with Tamika Mallory and they got in touch with us and they were like, you need to write down everything that was in that speech plus more all you know, the references from where it comes from when you talk about the history, what is the history? And we went through this whole thing.

And I still at that point because people have been telling me I needed to write a book even before that speech, and I still was kind of like, I don't know. I knew it would be time consuming. We run so much. I also knew that, you know, and I also don't always like the attention. So I was kind of like, I don't think this is a good idea. But with our management, Toya and others, they were like,

you need to do it. And so when I learned of the timeline that they wanted it out now, which is less than a year, right, and so you think about it didn't happen the day that I made this speech. This happened a month or two later. There's contracts, there

is this, there is that. So let's just say we started writing somewhere around August, and Ashley and I wrote together, and I had to sit and do zoom calls while getting my hair done, zoom calls in the airport, zoom calls while we were out of town at different places. If everybody else is going out to dinner having a good time, and I'm like, I can't, I gotta stay. That commitment was very humbling and very necessary because what it taught me is that I can actually do it.

And there's an actual hard all book. But I still got to find your parts. You can read like a liner. You know, I don't. I'm not going to say no, but we want to celebrate you. This. This is a beautiful commentation. Let's get see the emergency. Yeah, listen, go get the book right now, like, don't wait, do not Paul School, Get the book right right right, because while it is number one in our hearts, it's number one, number one on the charts. You like that that it's

number one in our arts. It needs to be number one on the charts, So go out and purchase it. Support and also the other reason to support. It's not just me, but you know that our podcast Street Politicians is on the Black Effect Network. The Black Effect Podcast Network with is Charlemagne's new podcast network where he has a lot of great our testers and shows. Um. But also he has his imprint, a brand new imprint, black published,

Black Privilege Publishing, Black Privilege Publishing. I'm always like black off Black Privilege because you know, Charlene is black back, so everything is so black that sometimes I get them confused. But my book is actually the first release on his imprint. So we're making black history. And people don't think that we will buy books that we that we like to read,

but we actually do. And I know we love to be into sort of the relationship books and you know, the mind, body and soul and those things are great. But how we get free in the country that we built is also a part of what I think we need to be reading, educating ourselves on and similar to working with my mom making sure she can sit and focus, we can do that with our families in general, and to use this as an opportunity to help educate and

just bring people along. Um. You know, and I'm not just saying it because it's my book, as I think I'm meant to say before that when I was talking to t T Torres our Home Girl from Hot ninety seven, one of the hottest stations in New York, I guess um. She and I were talking and she said it was a fast read, that she was reading it and getting through it. And really that's when you can read good.

I mean, that's when it's something that you want to want to read, or it's something that's keeping you, you know, engaged. So that's one of those it is. It is one of those books. Men. Look, we got advanced praise by Tamika Palmer, Jada Pinkett Smith. That's Brianna Taylor's mother, Marco Lamont Hill like this to me, good d. Mattery speaks the truth that often things but needs to be told that as black people in America, any one of us, at any moment, can be a victim of the injustice system.

State of Emergency gives us the words and the tools to fight for the justice our families deserve, and vows to create a world when no one has to lose their beloved child at the hands of the state. Justice for my daughter, Brianna Taylor. My heart is broken, but my fight is strong. That's tough. This book right here,

listen to me. It's a dope book, not just because I'm in it and I have something that's you know, not just because not just because you're part of my team and I'm in a book is good, not just because you helped me, because you did not. I didn't write nine there, okay, and I made it my own, so that is not quite writing. Whatever you say, but not just because you know I did what I did, but because it is what it is. And I'm just trying to say, man like, I'm just trying what is that?

Just look at it. I mean, I'm just trying to understand. I don't know where that came from. I don't get nothing that's worth slow. I know you don't think I didn't know. I'm just telling you that you see the video would have to say, no, this is not what it's something. Look, look, you're gonna blame me. I don't blame somebody, Sloan. I'm gonna find your parts so you

can tell people a little bit about anyway. Audio version though, has your you're you're reading, um, we have two of my young sisters who are reading on behalf of Cardi B and Angela Davis is forward. They're reading it and

they love it. They're so excited that I chose to have them to be a part of it, you know, locking down Cardi after she already spent a lot of time writing what she wanted to say, and then you know, working with me to make sure that she's like, hey, I want to be real, Like okay, we want we want you to be real. Say what you want to say. She wrote it, we talked about it. You know, she's very,

very thoughtful and creative. Cardi is not the kind of individual that's just gonna throw some ship together and throw in the world. That's not what she knows. She's going to be overly critiqued, so make sure that her message is properly shut out to Hybridge just find this carty party. B. And so she's very very particular. And Angela Davis, of course, Dr Angela Davis is not going to write her part until she sees what Cardi has to say. Since y'all told me you want me to respond to the young uns,

I'm willing to do it. Let me see what the young and has. So we're waiting for Cardi to finish her part and then go get Dr Davis to work on her part and then let'sten check this out. This is what she said to me. I was like, okay, Cardis, you know her piece is done. You know it's time for us to talk about your piece, and you know, start working on that. She says, oh, but where's the

rest of the book. I said, well, I'm still working on She said, when you finish, hi at me because I ain't gonna put nothing on nothing that I don't know about Zak. You just want to see the whole package. So I had to send it the book and then she said, oh, and I need some time to read it. So I'm like, okay, cool. So when it was time to record the audio version, I wasn't getting trapped and going back to them to ask them again do their things so that one KI need to listen to the US.

I got something for y'all. The young guns will read your parts in the book. They were ready, they were excited. They're both too amazing activists, you know Mary pat obviously and new paul Um and they were and I put them in the in the places that they belong because New Paul she is the Cardi B Strong actress with the Angela Davis. And then Mary pat hides her Cardi B. What we know she has it, and she she leans towards Dr Davis. So they are in their parts. And

then you have your piece, which is great. Linda tells the story of the Women's March for me because you know, I still struggle with being able to describe all of that. And then um, you know Angelo is and there doing what he does, talking about policy and talking about our way forward. And Angelo, as y'all know, is Lynda first of all, is Linda's a sort of Palestines co founder. She's actually gonna be joining, that's right. We gotten. And

then Angelo is Attorney Angelo Pintel. They are We are the four co chairs of the four co founders, coaches, co founders of Until Freedom. And everybody has a little role in this book. So the book is not a me, it's not I, it's a weed. It's to us, it's for us, about us, and it's about how we move forward together. That's right, man. So stay tuned. We have guests, We're gonna have people calling in from everywhere. We're gonna have our co founders here with us. This is gonna

be a dope show. It's not like you know, the god, the god another year around on the earth. You know, thank God for making it head man. So I'm blessed. We just went through a pandemic and a panademic. What's that? A plandemic? A pandemic, a panademic? They said, well whatever, um, people die and this really and we made it here, and I made it here another year. So I am blessed in holly favor. What's that nothing your granddad? You boys? Look,

these these young boys could never That's probably true. Ain't gonna say. You know, it's your birthday. Drink water and mind your business, man, drink water and mind your business. I didn't mind my business a few days ago, and I got myself in a whole big mester. I don't even know how it happened to me going on somebody's page, writing comments, and then I was in big trouble. Us to see, when you mind your business, you won't have

these problems. I don't go on people page and just right, well, you know what, I don't know what I happened to see something that I thought was great. Is my friend I thought it was great. It was not a big deal, and I didn't really read it because that's my friends, so I must speak to you tomorrow. But I see you and you pretty, so I liked it. And I see you and you're happy, so I liked it. And then I found out there was It was a whole thing, the whole situation. You know, I'm trying to stay out

of situations. But listen, stay tuned. State of Emergency out now, Street Politicians number one podcast, State of Emergency, number one book. Yeah, make it number one. You don't thought of the debt, thought of the debt. State of Emergency makes me reflect. And you know another thing that you have to do when you write a book. You wrote a book, so

you know about these things. Um, you have to read it a thousand times because remember what you said, and and and and not just remember what you said, because obviously, if you put a mic in front of my face, I'll talk about the exact same things that's in this book, because that's my life. That's what I talked about every single day. But when you write a book, you have to and your right people want to talk about specific

quotes and things you said. And this and that this young man Philip Paris, he was the one who sat with me and really worked through line by line everything I thought. He said, mm hmm, yeah, that's true. But there's this other part of the history that you need to focus on. So I was educating myself trying to educate the people all at the same time. And so as I'm reading it every day, I'm like, Yeah, we've been through all of this and we're still going through it.

We're still going through and they've shaped everything that we've We don't pass laws now, we're trying to pass more laws and and and hopefully the things that we're working on now will reshape um, you know, or I don't know if it will reshape, because you know, the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act has some really good components, I think the most important pieces to forty two. Remember,

we just had a conversation with some brilliant minds. So Ben Crump is to police accountability, Monique Presley, these two attorneys Tesla and Figaro, just know we're sitting having a real deep conversation about what's in the bill. Because the qualified immunity piece, as it um, was falling apart and all the issues that we saw happening there. We started to look at the bill and try to figure out what are some of the other things that we need to protect, and they raised that to forty two was

a very important component. That I knew it was there because I always um was interested in the idea that it would change the threshold, lower the threshold so that now you don't have to be at uh, it doesn't have to be intentional that the police officer intended that he came outside that day. It was like, I'm going to kill me a nigger, you know what I'm saying. That he doesn't have to have that mentality, but still if he is reckless, then that can get him charge.

Before you had to prove that I'm gonna go kill me one concept, you know what I'm saying that that was very difficult. It's almost impossible when you give somebody the title that they protected and servant exactly, so they automatically get the benefit of the death exactly and they say, you know, I was afraid for my life. That the that's it so and that's that's that's subjective right. Each person has the right to say that you can't tell me that I didn't feel fear, So you know now

that it's reckless. Like even if you felt fear, you have this training one to you're not supposed to draw your gun. You're not supposed to do this. You're not supposed to do that, And therefore that threshold will allow for criminality, for there to be charges. And so I was like, you know that that's an actual good part. I'm still qualified immunity one hundred thousand percent because I still believe that police officers should be responsible personally for

violating other human beings. It's a major deterrent. I think, like people say all the time, this system and white supremacy itself is not affected unless there is loss of life or there's lots of money, and we're not We're

not trying to hurt anybody. So when people accountable and they have to pay their money, yeah, you know what I'm saying, they're gonna say, you know what, whoa we gotta do something different when it was coming out their own pockets and they still saying, you know, with my pension,

I can't feed my kids. I'm gonna think before I just shoot, and you know, I'm gonna make real solid decisions because I understand that when I do this is going to affect my life, you know, So I think to forty two and qualified immunity go hand in hand, and we want both of them so they know we're trying to take no Wooden Nickels roum. Yeah, I mean,

so you know that. Yeah, that's exactly two forty That was my position that two forty two and qualified immunity will work hand in hand because if you can lower the threshold and get them charged criminally, then you should be able to also sue them civilly. And you know, you're never gonna get these people to do everything you want.

That's just not where we are as a society. But you do have to understand and be sensitive to people who are just tired of us constantly having to give, give, give, give, give, having to um, you know, always be compromising and they don't have to compromise, but we have to compromise, and

that for me is really really difficult. So I was just you know, reading and studying and going through material and you know, also just working and thinking in the back of my mind, what is it going to take to really get what it is that we know we deserve. We have a few days before this bill is supposed to be past the George Floyd Justice and Police and Act. That's good, but it's still not what we really need.

We really need to be leaning more towards the Breath Act, which is legislation that movement for black lives as well as Corey Bush, Congresswoman Corey Bush, who I love, she's one of the co sponsors. This is legislation that would be more radical. I believe in radical transformation, and I like and I my politics. Our politics are more aligned with the Breath Act, and that's what would like to

see happen. But it's huge, and so it's incremental. You gotta move a little piece and a little piece, and qualified immunity is a part of it, so you know, to have that as a part of this legislation would be really important in a step towards where it is that we're trying to go and that whole You know, there's so much that's happening to try to prevent real progress, and it just makes you wonder, like what will it ever take. It's gonna it's gonna take a joint effort

on all fronts. You know, they're gonna be people like us who are going to demand everything right right, and then there's gonna be some people that said we're getting a little bit. It's got to be people like us that always demand everything. You know what I'm saying. Like when you when you're going if you've got to manage you, you've got somebody, and you in a business, you want your manager to go in there and say, look, my

client deserves all of that, all the things. Now, if the client decides, you know, we're gonna negotiate for a little less or whatever. But we need people like us that's always gonna demand that we get all the things that we necessarily deserve. So we're going to push the

envelope every time, every time. It's no comfortability right now when you're governing the United States of America, when you govern everybody, when you have the lives and livelihoods and you know, everything of people in this country in your hand, and they're saying that they want some things, even if even if you think it's outlandish to you, if the people say that's what they want, then they're gonna fight for it. And we are going to be those people

that's gonna always push the envelope. We're not gonna be quiet. I'm sorry. You can look like us, you can sound like us, and we're gonna help you. We're gonna do certain things, but when you're not right, we're gonna call you out. We're gonna stand up, We're gonna protest you, We're gonna fight against you. We're gonna do all the things necessary to make sure that the people that people are properly represented getting treated equally and getting everything they

deserve every time until freedom is gonna do that. Every time. We gotta they far, they're far to one side, we got to be far to the other. Son. We're gonna lose friends. People are gonna be mad at us. We're gonna call out the friends. We want to say. Hey, Clyde burn, I don't know what you said, Representative, this is the elder who we definitely love and respect, but you should not have said that this can that you

don't care about qualifier. He didn't say that, he said, he didn't say he's willing to do it without He said later, because no, I mean, it's still wrong, but just make sure we quote people properly on street policy said I can do it out, you know, he said, I don't want to basically die on the hill. I don't know if he said die, but I don't want to die on the hill. Off the quotation said, I'm not opposed to doing the deal without Okay, that's fine, so but that's but he said, we can go and

do this later. Now here's the problem. Well, you negotiate. It's not about it's not that there's no later, but but the other people, I mean, you think they don't want qualified immunities, So you think they're going to end qualified immunity at another time by itself, that's the only time. The thing about it, which we've said, you know over and over again, is that Representative Clyde burn In the in the House, they had already done their job. They

passed it already the Senate. So there's no reason for you to even talk like, don't say anything, because you already did your job. You sent the signal that this is what we want. And now let it fall back on the Republicans and the Democrats that don't don't align properly, like Joe Manchin and others who don't align properly without what it is that you know we're fighting for. Let it fall back on them, so we can see clear targets.

But when you, as a person supposed to be with us, step in the way, now we got to deal with you two. That's that should. Yeah, you don't really celebrate anything. I mean, you know, I'm happy to be alive. It's not your thingly celebration. I mean, listen, I believe that I've been here long enough. You're just happy to be alive to look at this guy that is coming to say, happy birthday to you. Go the god we got to guard to the house. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday

my brother, my son, Happy birthday to you. Wow. You know we so we're so happy to have you to join us to celebrate Mice over here. You've been knowing him a long long time since I was a baby. It's going along years. You know. Used to be ditty, used to be puff. But you when you when you

moved to brother. Love is a sir, you know what I'm saying, you, sir, love man like I just you know, just watching you, just seeing you from early man, I remember using the Bahamas recording albums and just being in there and me and you're debating and all getting over music. And telling me to do this song. Me just sitting there. Just there's so much history, man, just watching the mogul you become, you know, just the face of the culture and how you just transcended and continue to grow. Man.

And I just want to say I appreciate you, and thanks for coming to celebrate me. Man, it's just incredible. Um. You know, just I wouldn't even say evolution because you I mean to be honest, before you know, um, um, you know when you got locked up, Um, you know, but you know before that, you was you was like your mind was just always so deep, you know, and and always so right there. And then to see you come back and when you came out and he was like, you know, yeah, I'm I'm out here for it for

the people right now. And I'm like, if we're gonna see how long it's gonna lie and you didn't stop. I saw you in front of the Capital Building. I literally, you know what I'm saying, like shed a tear because I'm like, man, look look, look look at what's possible, or look at this, you know, look at this king sticking to his word and really just you know, you know, devoting his life to what's going on and really being able to reach your kids and everything, and so I'm

just so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. I mean, everybody know I rocked with Tamika. You know what I'm saying, you go, those are my life two favorite people and and and to the two of the strongest soldiers on the front line. And with what y'all did for Brianna Taylor and where y'all got, you know, put to keep the pressure on them. And you know, I just commend you all. Y'all are y'are definitely legends. And it's your birthday and I'm just proud of you, man.

I'm just proud you. And I want to just check in man and send everybody love that's listening and congratulate y'all and Charlemagne or everything that's going on. I can't wait to be on your show. Ye get you up here, man, But I want to say thank you. But we definitely got to set a break the Queen on her book. Also, I don't want to take it over my birthday, but this book right here is a work of art, man, So I want to celebrate her and give her some

congratulations to thanks pup. We appreciate. I'm still you still Puff to me, I'm still all the way back at Puff. You know, I started with you a long, long, long long time ago, and you've been so super duper supportive of us and our work. Um. State of Emergency is our book, you know you first day when it was released, I was calling you like, look Puff, look, you know, look at my book. I did, and you told me I could. And your encouragement, your love has kept us going.

So thank you. We got a lot of work to do together, and I'm down. I appreciate y'all. Y'all be good and might have a beautiful night. Love, Thank you, King, sir Love. That's how it was, man, It missed a surpriser, but I heard you in there. I said, what's you doing here? I said, what is doing me? They know what kind of surprised? He sounds checking me like I think I was saying one, two and two? And then I seen you. I'm like, what is Joe doing here?

And I heard you say it's surprised, surprise, Happy birthday. We love you. We proud of you more than anything. You found your voice, you found your purpose in life, and it's to help people and bring people together and fight for the cause. And I love that about you, and that's why I stand beside you. Well, I want to say thank you man. Just hearing you, just seeing you, man,

just watching you, always being a fan. That's the way that you represent the culture, the way you represented the Bronx, the way that you just evolved from being the street dude, you know, and then seeing you just grow into this music mobile and just a businessman and somebody who just represents the community. And to see that you you respect what it is that I do is something that I just want to say, thank you, man, because I respect you the same way man. Like I said, I appreciate it, man,

Thank you. I want you to smell your flowers to day, uh and thank you for what you're doing for the community. Because we need strong leaders like you who look from a lens like you, who come from where you come from and know the pain of the people, in the passion of the people. And that's what I respect bosts about you. Also, you're nice as hell with the lyrics down for hip sleep on that, don't sleep on that.

You know you got some bars. Legendary recipe. Our brother Fred to God, He's like you know, he's with us every time we talk to each other. Friend is in the air. So God bless you man. Happy Peo birthday. Yes, it's good to see you, Joe. Thank you so much for making this a special day for our brother. We just wanted to encourage him and just so glad that you know when we reached out to you, you were quickly like, just send me the link, I'm gonna be there.

So thank you so very much, Joe. We know you're busy today, but we appreciate the and support. Thank you for real. Man, makes me feel good. We got a lot more work, Yes, we got a lot more work to do. Yes, that was so dope. Man, My brother's man. Two people that um I came into this industry just respecting man. Joe is from the Bronx, like Fat Joe, Fat Joe means to the Bronx. Is just different man. He's always been somebody who's paved the way. Came from

the projects, literally the projects. I know dudes that know him from the street, street, street, and then watching him evolved into what he has become, you know, and just seeing who he is and just the respect that I have for him, So for him to come up here and show me that love. And then puff Man. Puff was one of the first people when I first got into the industry, Like I got signed because I was at Puff's restaurant and I battled one of his artists, Shine,

you know what I'm saying. And then Puff was one of the people that I was wanted to sign me. You know, Ultimately I ended up going with Deaf Jam because Puff just had such a crazy roster over there, and I was like, I'm the man I want to be in my own you know what I'm saying. Chris like, he was like, it's gonna be violated, It's gonna be you. You're gonna be the face. So, you know, ultimately went there. But puffa somebody that you know, we got a lot of history. Like I said, you know, I used to

be with Mace a lot. So I used to be in the studio with Maze and be at different events. Me and Puff with debate because you know, he loved the debate. He was debating me. When I called him to tell him that, I said, listen, I need you to do this thing. You know, this is the time I'm sending you a link. He's like, it was Charlemagne and I actually were on the phone talking to him together, telling them that we needed him to be on today and he's like, uh huh, okay, I'm gonna do that

for my son. But what I want to talk to this to y'all about is that the economic power and this and that, and we we're going back and forth. He was like, man, the politics and you know how we get around this and that, And we were having a big debate eight because that's what he likes, specially does man. So I've known him just for so many years. Man, So shout out to Puff. I appreciate the love on my birthday. Man. Yeah, it's good number one, yes, yea.

You know, they celebrate me and they celebrate this book, man. So it's important. And I think and I think also from Joe's perspective, like his is is to the street, so he knows about the challenges that we deal with. You know, he's really to the streets. I know, Puff, no stuff, but Joe is out here the outside people, is my man, right, you go to the spot the outside.

So she was like, I need to encourage my brother and let him know that, you know, and that's and it's good and I will say that all our friends because these are we got friends. We have friends, We actually have good friends. Every every show we talk about our friends and when when calling people, and they don't ask too many questions and it's just like you'll send me to link. First of all, that's the one thing that the pandemic, unfortunate pandemic, has created an environment where

people are able to do more stuff. I just said earlier that, like the book, the virtual tour that I'm doing, if it had not been for Um it being virtual, there's no way that I would have all these people who've been involved, from Taraji p Henson, Yesai Henson, first night, she was the first night of the tour along with Charlemagne. You got it with you, that's right, Tiffany hattish Um, you know, Michael Eric Dyson is so many amazing Andre

day Um is a part of the tour. It's so many amazing people that are going to be or that have been and will be on this tour, including lots of street activists and organizes and folks that are just from all different walks of life and pastors you know, you know me. We always want to put a good pot together all because that's what I think it takes right,

is going to the streets, the sweets, the churches. When you call these people and say I need you to do something, you don't want to go back and for of course, you know your teams can go back and forth or details of exactly the time or the this, that, but you want the principle to say yes, right if that's your people's if that's somebody that's really a friend. When people call me and they're like, Yo, can you do this? Can you speak at my school? Can you

do a thing? Can you do? When it's a friend, somebody I know I've been with, I claim to be a friend. I tell you I support you. I don't put them through a whole bunch of drama. It's like, yes, I'm there, and then figure out the details, but I'm gonna break in my day. Imagine what Joe looks like. He's on his way somewhere and Puff is always busy period, and it looks like, you know, both of them stopped to take the time. So that's and I appreciate the

love is definitely appreciated, man and reciprocated. So thanks for the love. Yeah. Sure. Shout out to my brother Charlotte Maine for the douce saving for my birthday. Man, we're pre sate you. This is a pretty bottle. Look I got the exclusive do say black, Black Black Duc. You know he's all about to you. Thank you very much. We're doing well and it's your birthday. It's a celebration for celebration that do say bottles. This is hitting on called ja. We need to do yeah, and we needed.

Happy birthday, O, Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Faily meets street politicians, one big happy family. You listen, we're gonna have to celebrate. It's all happy we are. Now. What is it. It's eight days since my book was released and it's doing well. I'm very excited. Some chairs Number one's number one. We already knew missing it. You know, we still need to look at my make it number one. What does this look like? Velvet or something exactly relative?

Happy birthday? Thank you. Let me blow my make a wish for pray for all of us. I just wish about it got to be about you, mice. This is important. It's important. This is a defining moment, right, Oh my god. First of all, then it's COVID covid ki. Yeah, we're not eat that kid. You take it that home, covid kick. Your family can eat. Yeah, celebration deuce ship and you can watch. Yes, I'm gonna be all right, like I always you like, you don't need a drink. I don't

need a drink already. You already lit without a drink. Maybe that's why I can't drink. That's right up there, you could open it. So listen, we got my brother and my sister. Yeah, we haven't even told people who are listening. Yeah, the listeners got to understand. This is the Foesome, this is the Four Musketeers, you know. So we got inter Yandy calls us the Avengers. Is like, what does that mean? Super here? We're so here. I mean, yeah,

I don't know about you, but I'm a superhero. I mean, listen, I've been I've been known to save a few people recently. Man happens. But yeah, we joined by a brother and sister. Attorney Angelo Pinto Esquire, if your aunt, if you're attorney, you're not Esquire or your Esquire without all of that, Sotney, excuse me, Attorney Angelo Pinto, or you are Angelo Penso Esquire recently, so attorney. We got we got my brother

low in the building, that's all right. And then we got my sister, the unapologetic Muslim from Brooklyn, other co founder, sister Linda Side sore in the building. She can't take no drink and she always happy with us. I love you, Thank you, sister is a happy occasions here surprised us. I got this beautiful cake, we got this moved. We're gonna drink all of this, but I'm taking We got

some stuff we need to talk about. We celebrating, we still celebrating State of Emergency and my birthday, but we can't get too drunk because I started slurring and nothing. I'll fall asleep in all type of stuff. So we're gonna get this all if we're gonna talk and we're gonna have a good conversation whatever, number one, number one podcast, we'll be right back with you. That's how we are.

And we are back with my brother and my sister as they celebrate with us on our special days, you know, my birthday and another milestone and the release of State of Emergency, the number one book in the country, in the world. Don't say I told my stone say it's the number one, because you know what happens. People be like, oh, well, then I don't need to buy it because already number one, that number one our hearts. And that's what I said.

It's number one or not. I had a little I had some bar there's one, so I said, um, it's number one in our hearts, but it needs to be number one on the charts. Having yes, let's make it number one on the charts. Let's do it number one, just like on one. So yeah, So you know, we always talk about until freedom on street politicians because we just two fourths of until freedom as street politicians, and

we tell about what we do. We just want to y'all to give us a little perspective, tell give the people about because maybe they think because we talk black lava all the time, maybe they needed or something that y'all have to do. And you know, we didn't really put together any particular format. We said in here one day we should get a couch for street politicians and sit and talk the way we talk about issues, because that's a argument. A good argument between about issue is

what is that's good? It's good, it's a good debate, healthy debates reality. I mean other than what the people want to know is in that book. I mean state of emergency. Freedom believes that we're still in a state of emergency. It an't matter to us who's the president and who's not the president, who's the congress person, who's not the congress person. We're still in a state of emergency.

And just in the last couple of weeks, I mean we sat in in funerals of children literally like too many, too many, too many people Macaya Brian, I mean watching her in that prom dress, beautiful and her nails done, like she should be going to prom. That's what she should be doing, right, you know, being at the funeral of Dante Demetrius right and watching his little baby boy

walking around that church was devastating. So I feel like we're here as until Freedom really just to reinforce the narrative that to make has put out in the world, like keep your head in the game. There's still work to do out here, um, and the people are still counting on us. And so what we do is is that's our models. You count on us, you need us. We're going to be there wherever there's injustice. That's where we are. And you know what's interesting. It's kind of surreal.

But it's like anytime we're about to celebrate, you can't. Yeah, it's like just when it's like even with the verdict and the Derek Show and trial, it was like, yeah, nope, not again. So I think even in this moment when we're trying to celebrate, it's like so much happening in the world. You have Palestine, yeah, you know, all the issues around um, the Justice and Policing Act and the George Floyd. I mean, it's just challenges and challenges and challenges,

and it's kind of how we live. That's exactly how this work is. It's like you want to celebrate a win because you don't often get wins, but you don't have a moment too because something else has happening. To respond to something tragic, usually it's trying fortunate because you have to celebrate, you have to acknowledge that there are good things, right. I remember we were just recently on a call um with several attorneys. As I was mentioned,

Attorney Benjamin Crume uh Teslin. It was great, but you didn't say much of anything none. But see, this is here's my issue, here is my issue, here's my issue. My issue is that, yes, some of us absolutely have to listen, but there is a perspective that Angelo has that I don't necessarily know all the stuff, and that perspective should be a part of the conversation. That was an incredible conversation between Attorney Benjamin Crump, Attorney Monique Presley,

and Tesla Off. Tesla is actually an attorney, but you need to be so for the purpose of issue of Attorney Teslin figure having dialogue, and and of course you know, we were in the conversation just talking about what is left in the Justice and Policing Act, the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act without qualified immunity, understanding the real

details of qualified immunity. And I think one of the things that Teslin continued to raise is that we don't we want people to get to come along later when you already told them, we already educated folks on qualified immunity if it was just for civil cases and it was not necessarily going to help deal with some of this, and that in the third we should have told the people that in the beginning, but instead everybody, everybody, everybody

leaned on qualified immunity, and we still are. I mean, at least the folks on that whole were like qualified immunity is and it and it has to happen. But they were we were also talking about other perspectives that we're being ending to hear from the representative Jim Clyde Burns and others of the world. And that was and it was a real debate. And you know, one thing I recognized from that coal And I don't know if you guys, because you weren't there, but if y'all share

the perspective or share my position. While first of all, Monique Presley is brilliant. Also we know that you sit on TV. She's on Roland Martin shows all the time. She's great. Teslin is a bad, Yes, she's not. Yes, we're coming from a different space, you could responding to the things that our folks are experiencing in a different way. So it's just a new energy, right. And while people like to come up with all kinds of reasons with

Ben Chromo, Oh he's country, Oh he's this. If you were part of that, I have I have a new level of respect for him after sitting through that conversation last night and listening to how he was able to describe every single part of the Justice and Police and Act down to the Supreme Court and the roles of each individual and how these things operate, implications of passing it on civil suits like that, because I think sometimes people just look at a piece of legislation raised the

age was like that, and they don't realize all the implications. You just think it's going to impact one thing, but it's really not. It's going to cause a cascade of implications. And it's important to know that. And oftentimes there's only the experts or the people doing work every day that knows, and other folks are just like I get it done or don't get it done, and then pulls her boxing

gloves and slaps of down in the table. Right, So, now you're gonna tell me about two forty two, which helps to lower the threshold for criminality, which is important. But why we didn't talk about that, you know a few weeks ago, and I think all of us agreed that we don't need black folks, especially black folks who are not a part of the negotiations. Let me say this is wrong for us to even say that a Jim Clyde Burn or others like him are not part

of the negotiations. They might not be in the Senate, but they are absolutely a part of the negotiations. Jim Clyde Burn is the wit. Okay, he's the man. So he's the man. I mean, Joe Biden is dead in the water without Jim Clyde Burn. Okay, he's dead in the water. You're not a Joe fan. Everybody needs to know Angelo not a But Jim Clyde Burn is dead in the water without a I mean, excuse me, Joe Biden is dead in the water without Jim Clyde Burn.

Jim Clyde Burn, and then Kamala Harris black woman, black man, flanks him on both sides. They bring him back at the biggest mistake I personally, and this is a debate between Linda and me, The biggest mistake that I think we made as a progressive community was when we knew that the world just wasn't gonna accept Bernie. And I think that it's wrong because I like Bernie. I see you know me and you talk all the time about how Bernie had a serious problem with pinpointing and talking

about black people like he just didn't. That's the one thing Joe Biden leaned into he knew, he knew he had to and and Bernie he failed there. But when we knew that that was happening, the socialism and I'm talking to the old ladies tell me everything. So when I'm talking to the coral masses, berries and the hazel dudes, and they literally start crying like you don't understand, and you know he we're gonna They did. They didn't dislike Bernie.

They were just saying, we're gonna lose if he's the candidate because of all these things, right, Elizabeth Warren, because of the fact that she's a woman, we're not going to respect her. People just that they're just not gonna do it. It's it's a woman. The country has not moved to the point where they can see that. Even though she wasn't Bernie, she she stole Bernie's point, Stollar

fuel Bernie's point. Everybody did. The whole debate became Bernie's talking points right, the image who was it didn't work. But then she took his talking points right, and then several of them. But then she added a flavor that was her own. She understood women, she understood black women. She brought black women into the fold. She talked about black people very directly. I mean, she was my candidate.

Also she claimed capitalism, which is you know, we could debate it, but it was and so therefore they are people. But because we can't as a progressive community, and I'm talk about black folks, I'm just some my progressives in general, we can't ever come to the table and say, okay, we're on the same page, and by the way, we're willing to support a woman. We ended up with the ball fumbled in my in my opinion, and I'll say

this and y'all can talk. However, I will not sit here and discount the fact that this current administration, because we ain't gonna get much from most of them, but this current administration at least there's so much fire under them that they kind of know, like, we can't really play with these black people. If we're gonna try to get Kamala Harris elected, they know it. I don't know, I don't know if they're gonna care about that. I think Joe cares about himself, and I think he's gonna

get his time. And then well the problem is that Joe Biden is now He's not just the president. He now is the head of the party, and the Democratic Party does not want to not understand, but I'm saying the realities he does. The Democratic Party does not want to lose again, not just to the Republicans. Donald Trump is coming like the Democratic the Democratic car it is failing.

Even when you look at the win, when you look at what happened in Georgia before the election, even when you have look at what happened at the election, the Democrats didn't win any of their elections. The people who wanted to see change won the elections for Democrats, just like folks say, Georgia's dot blue is black. That's why that happened. So we gotta really I think the Democrats often ignore what's really taking place and give themselves too

much credit. But when you're dealing with a guy like Donald Trump, who was really the face of the Republican Party and the face who's gonna carry weight and swing a big bat in trumple there's no an I say this time we need something different. Who could be Trump? Who?

I don't know. I'm just being honest and I'm just looking at the state that we are in now, looking at when you see what clad Burn is saying, when you see what Kamala Harris is saying, you see the pushback a lot of people who who advocated for them saying, I can't see myself voting for them again or telling people to vote for them again. It's gonna be a

very difficult time. And I think for the next three point whatever years we have, I think we have to really strategically create what something different looks like, like we we can't. We can't put our faith in this administration like we can get what we can get. It's just like I tell people all the time, and just like we understand we were tied together. We gotta move right now. We're gonna deal. We gotta even as soon as they

cut these change. I'm going my way and you're gonna go this way, you understand, saying, So the bottom line is right now until freedom, everybody needs to be galvanized and our voices the people who really want real change, not monumental, not incremental like who wants to I mean exactly,

not incremental change, with real monumental change. We have to be creating what do something different looks like, whether it's a different party, whether it's just a whole voting block of millions of people that say this is and we come up with our own plan for what America is supposed to look like us. But that's what has to be happening right now, because right now people have lost all faith. It's people that this was their last time

and they're just looking like, you know, racism America is not. Yeah, you're gonna tell the same racist. That's what the people wanted to be talked to. Straight, Talk to me, straight, tell me what it is like. I don't want to play and these people feel like they're being played with when you talk about qualified immunity and said, oh, well that's not really. But you've been telling me this for the last not much. I've been qualified munity, and that's

what we need to get rid of. I got street dudes that I grew up with that never been My man Percy, who's one of Fat Joe's friends, he was given a class on his Instagram about qualifying. He was like, Yo, this is what qualified munity. I learned some stuff and people say, oh words, they and the actually mice. The bottom line here is that credibilities on the line. It is. Bottom line is we're gonna stand our ground and we're gonna if there's no end qualified immunity, we really got

to say we're not going to be with it. We gotta pressure on them to know that. For the very few that are actually with you out there talking about George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, we're not going to go down that path because to your point, then they're never going to believe in our something different once you get there. If we don't stand our ground. Yeah, I

don't want to be clear. No, no, I understand. But if we are supporting the Justice and Policing Act as something that has some minor changes that are welcomed, but we support a bill where they take out and qualified ability, that is That's what I'm saying. We're not going to do that. And I think the credibility pieces even more than what you said. I think you would be a nice just now justice and police and that that's one part is bigger than that. Yeah, the credibility part is

wrapped up in America. Is not racist, it's wrapped up in so many different things. What's happening exactly because let me tell you, every day that I've been out here talking about the book, and I'm trying to be focused on my book launch because the world is going to always burn down. And I and I and I have been yes, absolutely, and I have been so clear, so clear. I'm about, you know, my support for the Palestinian people period.

Like I remember coming back from Palestine. I was fired up, and I was saying this and that and this, and I was doing interviews, talking and Linda was like, yo, she was like, she was like, come over here and let me talk to you for a minute. These my people. I appreciate the love, but I'm gonna tell you right now this context to everything. Get you get your get yourself together, because I was gone. I was gone. I couldn't believe what I saw. I saw with my eyes.

You can't tell being like when you when you visit Palestine and you just see the way in which the Palestinians are living, and you see how you know they actually be a force other homes. You see it. Just listened to the stories of eighty year old men crying to you saying, hey, I was here when I lived here this one and they took my family from me, they killed some of my family. I'm the oldest person

in my village and I'm the last people. And you see them just constantly building on top of four and five story houses and they put in buckets hopefully they can get rain on. Like when when you when you see that as a human being, if you're not saying you know this is not right, your moral compass tells you it's not about nothing else. It's about my moral compass says, I don't care what you name the people. I don't care what they look like, where they're from.

What is happening right here, it's just wrong. And I have to say this because people will get on me. There's mass chaos in Columbia to people being killed Columbia. That's true. So yeah, that's true, stated by the US government. And see that's what's important too. There's international challenges that are happening around the world connected to how America responds or doesn't respond to so many things, and we gotta do something about it. That's why for me, the establishment

never had credibility. And it's I know it's tough for people to hear, but for me, it's like now I would say, so yeah, I mean, but one thing I am and I want to say as my sister that we we are with you. It's not. You know, we're not gonna back down because I heard have people call me like, oh I saw you post something about Palastine. Your book is coming out. You know you might have some issues with bookstores and this and that. Oh well, you know, listen, We've been canceled so many I get

canceled every week about something I was telling them. I minded people's business, got in somebody's comments about something they canceled. Yes, I get canceled all the time. But what I believe and I believe in, and that's just it. And so

I know what I see is just wrong. And by the way, I am really proud of the courage of people who are out here saying people are speaking up in a way that makes me feel like we're moving somewhere and people are actually died, people are actually It's almost like, how could you not talk about I mean, a mom woke up with four of her children are dead, four siblings are our dead, Like this is what we're talking about here, and I think it connects to us

until freedom and who we are. We're just unapologetic. What we believe is what we believe, take it or leave it, and that's just who we are. We're not bought and sold. You're not going to tell us who to stand up for. You're not going to tell us where to go. That's just who we are. And and and one of the things that's important about what we do is like we're

funded by the people. So nobody's gonna tell me if you say that, I'm gonna pull this money if you if you say that, I ain't gonna give you that. I'm not funded by people who are going to control who we are. And that's that's an important things to me. Nobody, nobody, nobody controls us. Like what did he say? He said, you can't call up he and get me fight, right, I ain't got no you know, we're going to do what we do. Not have a white manager. They were

like calling the church trying to get him fighting. He said, yeah, Like that's like our women TV, which is our partner, we are, our visual component is on our Women's TV every week and cat trigger out directed who hangs out and behind the scenes here there's no white person to calls that. She can't have us on here. You gotta talk to a black woman, yeah about black people? You

know why? Because black grandma and South Carolina gave me twenty dollars just two hours ago, and another one in Florida, and then that's Auntie in Ohio and our cousin in California. I mean, we are funded by people, and we want to stay funded by the people, and the people and the people who don't who are like, oh, we're not gonna give you anything. You can you listen to that, And that's the main thing for me, right. It's always people who never supported you to have an issue with

what you're doing. People if they're supporting us, I've never got somebody saying, you know, I was supporting you. I've been funded and I don't really know what you're doing. They're like, yo, keep doing what you're doing. I love what you're doing. It's always people that never support you, that want to throw a monkey, want to try to cause the centiate man. Listen, we My motto is I work for the people, and that's always been my motto.

My voice is gonna always be unhinged. I'm always say what I think, even if it goes against the status quo. That's just who I am. So whenever you accuse me of any unhinged and we y'all got to try to hinge me up sometimes because a little bit, a little they try. But at the end of the day, listen, if it's not my sisters and my brother telling me, hey, calm down a little bit, ain't nobody else gonna stop me. I'm gonna say whatever I want to. I want to

support you until Freedom. How could I do that? You need to invest. We do not take donations because we do not want charity. We want people who believe in the work that we do to invest in the work we do. Not you don't do that. I don't take only take investments because I do not want people to feel like you did something for me out of charity. And you know, I want you to look and say,

these people are doing work that I believe in. That that that eliminates with people try to say, oh, you scheme in And you know, I don't want to scam. I want people to look me in my eyes and say, yo, I believe in that brother right there. So I'm going to invest in this movement. Therefore, you can't say that we trick nobody. We're doing none of this. No, everybody who gives anything to Until Freedom, please make it an investment. Write the word investment. This is an investment in our freedom.

Because when you invest in us, you invest in your own freedom. You invest in equity, you invested in quality, you invest in unity, you invest in the beloved community. That's right. And that's like you said, And we often say we're all we got, we all we need. That's right. The people who ain't what us really ain't with us. And all you have is all you got is all we need. Man, That's what I remember. The lady says

that what she send us. So one day a woman gave us five dollars and said, this is all I have, and we wrote her back, what you have is all we need. Somebody else said, I'm going to give her five dollars, So send her her five doys back yet and I'll give community that So cash app until freedom venmo, until freedom until freedom dot com. We give you every way, every way to go. You can go on our link tree, on our Instagram account and everything you need to know

about this. So this is another way to support us. You know, this is our you know dark red, we have a more brighter red, and we have multiple colors. We've got a spring collection coming up. Get your saw for nice shirts shirts. This is the new just gonna be one of our new shirts, evolutionary. I want to see you know, I got to talk to Nicole Chaplin. First shut jacket that I have in the back of it says state of Emergency. I can't show it to you right now, but it was a gift by from

our friend Nicole Chaplain and she's a fitness expert. She had it, she had I would like to have a conversation with her first about the continuous partnership that's for bringing it to folks on here. I know I need to get a jacket quickly to you guys. And yeah, so it's good to have y'all with us today. Today it was exciting. Happy birthday, Mice and Charlotte. Any more, happier years, peaceful years. I asked God to me piece

piece slow, like you know what's funny? Being here today is almost surreal because it's like we've come along way, yeah, man, And I think it's deep when the more you move forward, the more people try to tell you that, oh yeah, and you just gotta do le new levels, new devil. And I say all the time, the one thing you don't want to do is run up on people from until freedom because it's probably are you going? Because God is great, we are chosen, We are chosen, so listen.

Thanks shout out to my family for being here until freedom. Angelo pinto lindaself so attorney Angelo, and from now we can count on him to be our policy expert. And then Linda is the mama. Who's your trying? Who's your mom? Are we out? Happy birthday and congratulations because this state of emergency wherever books are sold, Books and soul get your copy. You can get the audio version. The book is number one in our hearts, but it needs to

be number one. Man, I want to thank you all for being here, for coming to celebrate my birthday, celebrating this book release. Shout out to Fat Joe, Shout out to everybody that called them man, I truly appreciate you. I'm feeling humbled and blessed. You know when you reached you and you look and you look like you know what I'm saying, it's a mouse. I'm blessing Holly favored to be here. Man. Once again, shout out congratulations to you in this book number one in the country, in

the world. Look Speaking into Existence, from my heart to the charts. We were making number one another dope episode. Man, thank you for joining. Thank you. If you got anything I wanted to talk about, let us know, man, because you know what, one thing for shore and two things for certain. I'm not gonna always be right. Tamika Mallory is not gonna always be wrong. Sometimes she will a lot more than I will. But we will both and I mean both, always be authentic peace. That's how we

owed it. That's how we owed it. That's how we owed it. That's how we own That's how we owned it.

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