Giving Girls Hope with Chikesia Clemons

I have one that is well, let me, let me, let me kind of guess what you might be one that you're excited to talk. Well, it's not so much being excited to talk about it. It's just funny that you know, the world has just changed so much, and so the plastic surgery industry has obviously boomed. I mean we all know that not everybody, but a lot of people are getting a nick and a tuck in a pole and the thing and the mommy makeovers and all

different types of stuff. And I have no no judgment of people taking care of themselves, getting what they think they need to be their best selves. And how they want to feel. I did see and I laughed a lot about the lips thing. I do think that's a little crazy where people are getting their lips done and they can't even talk, Like I have actual friends or people I know well that cannot really speak because their lips are so tight, especially immediately following the lip surgery.

So that's a little crazy. And I saw one of the guys talking about it. But the new news that was released on Hollywood Unlocked today was that the industry has grown even more because of men that they're that at least one point three million dollars in the United States has been calculated or earned based upon men getting

plastic surgery. That includes things like you know, ab enhancement, and that's something that when a lot of women get their stomachs done, like they get the Mommy makeover or whatever, the doctors do put some construction around the ads to make them look better so that you know, okay, you know, maybe someone felt they needed that as a man. Then they have the liposuction piece. Which liposuction has become way more accessible and a usable tool for a lot more people.

It's not just women that do it, it's there are men who are all so getting light bosuction once they especially in cases where they were once really big and they're working out and all of that, and they need to get skin remove on a little bit of light bo suction. So men are doing that. And the thing though that I thought was a little like, whoa is the BBLS. I don't know or understand what. So men are getting bbls. Yes that yes, men are getting BBL too far. Man, we're taking this shit way too far.

A man getting a Brazilian butt lift. It's crazy to me, just the sound of it. It's crazy to me, like they're doing it. Men are getting No, it's true. No, I know because once I saw the story. You know, all you gotta do is go to YouTube in a couple of places and you can actually see it happening. And I see it. It's happening. Men are getting bb else. That's crazy. You walk in as a man and you like, I want the Brazilian butt lift. They don't really say

all those words. They just those words. It makes it sound so much more, you know, Yeah, like what it is, I want the BBL get the BBL. Wow, that's crazy to me. And I love I love to tell this one because I knew it was gonna make you be like what in next He's like, come on, bro, you gotta do better the abs. Okay, I ain't gonna do it because I'm the word can get minds back somehow, but I could kind of back. Yeah, I gotta get

them back because I had a complete six pack. But it's about three and a half now, so I'm trying to get that two and a half back, trying to get the old thing back. I get that old thing back. But so I understand a little bit about that, you know, you get bomb. But the BBL is too much like I don't even like needed what men need to listen, who who are you? I mean, I guess well, you know, people are doing different things for different reasons. You know,

a little bit strange. They act a little strange for a little bit of change. Man, I'm just saying. So that's it. So the BBL, then, um, well, the plastic surgery and how men are also taking advantage of these great services as a nip and a tuck to make themselves feel a little bit more confident. Okay, So then Donald Trump was finally arrested. Now let me Trump and ste got arrested him. They finally he turned named perp

walk man, I need a little perp walk. Well, I can understand why they did mug shot come on or not, but I understand why they I got purple walk the mug shot for some shit, I didn't even do Trump needed on mug shot. But I have a perspective on why they didn't. I have a perspective. And here's my one two quick punch. And I'm not saying, first of all, yes, all of it is racism and white privilege and all of that. I already know all of that. I get it.

I'm just giving another bucket that we could also pull from. It is not helpful to the United States to have an image of the president of the United States, and you know, as a mug shot. That's not necessarily it's not helpful to our nation. Yes, we're already weak, Yes we already look crazy, Yes, all the things, but the mug shot. Forget about what American citizens and Trump haters may do. But it's also not good for the country's profile to have a picture of the president, the former

president of the United States as a mug shot. You know, they do have to kind of consider some of the international ramifications of things that we do. So I'm just saying I'm giving it as a separate, very minute potential point that is under the racism of how black and brown men and even white people are in which you know that would be white supremacy because then the white people impacted by it as well. But whatever how they are, we are as a people at perp Walk then the

mug shot and the whole thing. So I get that, and of course white privilege is a big part of it, because there is white privilege, right. I was watching a documentary that was on and CNN International while traveling in Europe, and I saw that they did a story where they talked about the other presidents like Clinton and also Nixon and in the moments when they were, you know, facing indictment. Nixon was actually indicted, which he was parted by Ford

President Ford, so he didn't do jail time. And then of course Clinton, they did a deal with him that he would not be indicted so long as he admitted that he lied. So white men they always figure out a way, and that's what I said. I said, Trump must be so bad that they couldn't even find their usual ways of manipulating the system to try not to do this last thing which a black man had to use what was in his hand in order to indict him.

But at the end of the day, even still the privileges there, Trump should be in jail, should have been in jail. However, I'm just giving us a third perspective and another bucket that we do got to think about the international profile of this country. Well, I can understand that perspective, you know, but in just my personal opinion, you know, we all created equal and although this is a was the president, he committed an legal act, you know.

So for us to show any level of favoritism to him when we know that he committed a crime because he was arrested in the reigned on these charges, well you know allegedly, you know, when we are arrested in the rain. You know, you think you think my mother wanted to see me, wanted to see me, and you know,

in handcuffs, in a mug shot, purp walk. No, you know, so I understand all of the political you know, mumbo jimbo that we speak of and how it doesn't look good, But it doesn't look good that average people, who citizens, who the government who elect the government who that we actually the people who work for us. You know, we have to be purp walked and have mug shots, but the people that we elect that do crimes though, So I think, you know, the fairness of it is wrong.

I understand the politics of it, but a lot of I'm tired of politics, you know what I'm saying. I'm just so tired of politics because politics doesn't been so I want. I want the same I want. My sain was just as big as his man. You know what I'm saying. I want the same exacting and everybody else. God wanted to be equaling on the board. If I'm deemed the criminal and i could have committed a crime and I'm arrested, I want the same treatment that you

would give anybody else that's arrested. So I expect them to get the same treatment that I was getting. Right, And then people keep saying he was arrested, I'm like, yeah, because the rest don't look like that to me. Arrest he was able to turn himself in and he made it back to Marlago before the evening, which that can happen to any one of us. Because I've been arrested in a city and made it on the plane from

DC or wherever back home by the night time. So that's not it's not to say that it's not possible, but the arrest. So anyway, that I was my little perspective one that I was watching. I was looking at something on social media the other day and it was it was actually, yeah, it was this. The other day a few people posted about the Shaan King. Of course, Linda Sausor, who is our partner and saws and she

is Palestinian. And I saw during last weekend how the Israeli the IDF, the Israeli military was inside of a temple while the Palestinians were in prayer and in service, and they were beating them. I mean, I'm so glad that it was caught on camera, in clear view. So no one can say, oh, well, the Palestinians did this to them first, because the truth is why were they inside their church? Like what the inside of their mosque?

Why were you in their place? Exactly? But this is a thing that happens every year, and I think people need to know that that this is not a new situation. This is something that happens every year because this particular place of worship, the um, the the the Israelis have decided that they have to have this space, and we should actually have Linda on to talk about the specifics around this, because of course, you know, I'm not an expert,

but I do read one and two. I listen, and you know, and I understand some of the because we've been to Palestine and we are also closely aligned with pro Palestine organizations and activists, I do understand some of the things that's happening in the region. And I know that they have prayer of course during Ramadan in this same place every year, and it is a real thing that the Israelis believe that this particular area. I think it's like up in wherever it's it's geographically placed somewhere

that they believe it should be theirs. So it is a ritual for both sides to go there and pray because it is the Palestinian people's temple, or I might be using the wrong word. It is their place of worship and they've been there praying there for whoever knows how many years, and since the Israelis have decided that it has it should be returned to the Jews, or it should be the Jews and their place of worship. They're just gonna take it. They're just gonna be bow it.

And that's it. And I think that the thing that is so important for us to understand, because I'm sure there are people who are listening and they're like, why are you telling us this? Like what this got to do with us? Here's the thing. The Israeli military that was in the place of worship beating on these people are paid our tax dollars. See, that's it. That's the reason why it's important because the money. There are billions of dollars, not millions, not thousands, not a few dollars.

There are billions of dollars being sent from the United States of America, our tax dollars to fund what is happening, the atrocity, the human rights violation. Now, when I say human rights violation, I got that language from Amnesty International. I got that language from some of your most credible UH human rights organizations in the world, Okay, that have deemed what has happening to the Palestinian people to be a human rights violation. So we pay for it with

our money. And that's why we have the right to speak on it. That's why we have the right to call it out. You know, just watching that video and hearing them praying while they were being beaten with something that was just like damn, and knowing that it's Ramadan and hearing them praying and watching them being beat you know, it shifted my soul. So I just prayed for the Palestinians during this time. You know, you know that God

continues to give them strength and protect them. You know, it's just, you know, we're just living We're just living in dangerous times. We just live in a world with so many things are going on, like it's it's crazy to me because it's like Trump never said a lot of real shit to me. But one thing he did say that you know, me and you joke about and we laugh about a lot, is people are dying and never died before. He said, people are dying and never

died before. And that's really what's happening. And I turned around every day it's a new person man or a close friend of Mines. I wasn't even able to go to his funeral because you know, we were out of town. But you know, close friend of Mines, you know, he passed away and passed away. Hurd, he passed away. Somebody

killed him in the Dominican Republic. You know, I didn't get the semi regards of my respects to his family, but you know, shout out to my brother Nathan ingram Man since third grade was really close friends, and you know, he lost his life. And then every day you just hear different people are going Instagram and see people that I know just lost their life. You know, we're in that age as you start getting your forties, you start seeing, you know, people start to disappear. So we got to

be healthy, man. I wanted to see everybody. Listen, if you're forty thirty eight, thirty nine and over, get real about your health. Man. Start eating properly, start exercising, start taking care of yourself, start getting your check ups. I gotta go get my check up real soon. But we gotta be attentional about taking care of ourselves. Man. It's a mental health thing too. It's not just you know,

you gotta protect them mental health space. You have to cut off family, friends, whoever it is that's stressing you out and making you feel unwell. You have to check yourself from making you feel unwell because you're trying to live up to expectations in the world that you know, it's you know, we really gotta be careful out here, we do. We gotta be very We gotta protect our space, our mind, everything, so you know, hopefully, you know, the

situation in Palestine gets better before it gets worse. Man. I'm sitting out my love, prayers and regards, man, and shout out to our sister Linda, who you know, I know she's personally, you know, affected by this trustity. You know that this is her native landess, her people. So we always standing in solidarity with her and gonna stand on the side of the righteousness in this situation. You know, it's just it's just crazy. I'm just looking around. There's

just so much stuff going on. I mean, I could just go on and on, but things we deal a little, but I'm not going to. Yeah, like too many different things. And speaking of that until Freedom Partners and some of our team they're down in Tennessee. They've been there for the last several days. And you know, folks know that

we are taping our show. So sometimes by the time the show airs, it would you know, things would have been would have progressed, and so but people should know that in Tennessee there are three legislators, two young black men and an older white woman who joined protesters, young protesters, students who were protesting the gun violence issue. Obviously, just in the last two weeks a week, it's happening so fast,

there was a mass shooting there where. For the first time that I know of, it has been recorded in my research that a woman actually committed this atrocity. Now I know that she is trans or they are trans, and so I can't I don't. I'm not sure exactly all the things, but I think that they identify as a woman and h identified because they're no longer with it, right, okay, So they identified as a woman, and so she committed this atrocity. Where these I don't know. I think it's

it's several people who were killed. It's so many of them. I actually now don't even remember the exact numbers. God bless every single soul. I know there were adults, I think three adults, and one of them was a black man who was in his sixties who worked at the school. And then others individuals and of course some young children, kids, baby, unbelievable, disgusting, horrible.

Everything you could think of, the worst ever, deplorable, just throw everything, just anything, any word you could come up where it's terrible. And you know, I was thinking the other day, it can't continue like it has to. People cannot have fear of sending their children to school that somebody's gonna walk into school and potentially shoot their kids. That is way too much. It's just way too much. It's way too much for us to have to be

thinking about it happening on the streets. But it's way too much to also not know if your children will be safe when the door is closed to the building in school. Even with us as African Americans who deal with violence and a lot of different ways, in school, that was the one place it might be a fight, maybe even a knifefold, maybe depending on how you know where you went to school and those types of situations. But the majority of our children and us as kids

were safe in school. And the ship really popped off when the doors opened and you went on the outside of the building the inside you didn't really had casualties and large quantities and the adults and the kids being killed at the same time. That just is not a thing now. This is becoming a regular thing. So these students were protesting. Shout out to those kids. They were bold, they were they were They was given the series. It

was given hell up in there. And the legislators, these three legislators they, as I said, two younger black men and an older white woman. An older white woman. They sat down in the chambers with the kids. Now, Tennessee is a supermajority red state, so that means they read red red red. Okay, they blood are in dread. And they have rules where of decorum where legislators are not supposed to protest in the chambers. So these three individuals chose to do so. All three of them have been

stripped of their of their committees and their responsibilities. And now there's a vote that is happening today as we are taping today and tomorrow to decide whether they will be completely ousted from their seats as legislators in general because of again this decorum issue. It is bullshit. It is racism, it is white supremacy, it is it should be illegal, it should be inhumane. The people of Tennessee

voted for these individuals. The youth were there standing up for their lives and the thing that really bothers me, and this is sort of I have two points to

my thought of the day today. The first thing is how do people even fix their faces to have the same response to children being killed and adults legislators standing with the children as they would you know, maybe that the legislators had sex out of wedlock right and had a baby out of wedlock with somebody, because that's a decorum issue that could get you outsted that you was sleeping with staff members, or you have sex out of wedlock with somebody and got you know, the person pregnant

or whatever. So it's basically like you're doing something that disgraces the seat that you're sitting in. How can you put that and this together and actually make a move on it right? Like you? I think it's simple. America has shown you that they canna always do shit that fits them right and it benefits them. You know, we looked at these are two black people, especially two black people, and the issue at hand is something that they fight.

They they gonna fight you too for now about their guns, about the guns, and it's not even about and the thing is people keep saying, you're trying to take the guns No, we're not trying to take the guns. Were just trying to make sure that psychopaths don't get guns. Right. There should there should be a level of of a process that you go through to where the person who is that checks things that that makes sense, Like everybody just don't supposed to have a gun in the hand,

right and you shouldn't. You should never. I don't believe that any person should have automatic weapons that they could kill that. I don't believe. That don't make sense. It doesn't made those houses. Those supposed to be people who are who have passed extensive background checks, who are skilled, who have mental like the mental health um threshold threshold

for that has to be unrealistic. Like you got you're supposed to have monthly check ins with psychologists, like we have to understand, young man, anybody's that's in possessions of guns of weapons of mass destruction should have probably weekly man, like you should have a mandatory weekly visit to a mentor.

But that's what I'm saying, So what the process, because I don't know if people lose their mind every day, like every day some and then you can just take somebody's life and we and that's what we're seeing every day. So if there's no process in which look, we're sure this person is upside mind, we're doing this evaluation. We check them every weekly, he comes in, we have conversations. He seems to be on. Well, at least you're doing

the due diligence. These people want to be to have guns of mass instruction with impunity, and that makes no sense to me. It's not making say they have background checks. That's what they're gonna say. They're gonna say you have to fill out a form. That's not true, not true, because you could go to Walmart and buy all types of weather and and and and by the way, obviously

it's not strong enough. Number one, Number two and the thing that just happened, I think it was at Howard University, and might we should look that up, but I think it was at Howard where they found a person who had some other knives, some some ammunition, some other stuff like chicken foot and some other ship. That's cra He

was on an HBCU. I don't know, it's hard, but I know it was an HBCU and he definitely was there with ammunition and guns and some blood, some chicken blood and foot or some ship that he was going to whatever he was gonna do it us most powerful points of the day. People lose their mind every day. Every day is a new day for humans because we live in a world. I saw a video that DL hugely posted also this week where a little girl is crying saying, daddy calls me a democrat and her mother

is like, what, what what? And she's taping or what And then the mother goes, Daddy, why would you call her that? And this little girl is no older than six or seven, and she is having a whole breakdown, a meltdown about being called a democrat. So the thing about it is that when you say people lose their mind every day, this country is so effed up. It's so effed up that people are physically, emotionally, physically, mentally whatever,

having all types of reaction to racism and societal issues, oppression. Okay, people again, their mental health is a poverty is impacting them. So from minute to minute, somebody with an assault rifle, somebody with any kind of weapon. By the way, so I imagine if you had you if you got a knife, you might stab one or two and then the world, you know, hopefully people will be able to fight, back,

run or do whatever. But if you have an assault rifle and you can reach me while I'm running away from the stabbing that you just committed, right you, you commit a stabbing over here, I see it and I'm out and you can't just catch me. This is not the movies. This is not pretty that walks right. But the gun, the gun is gonna catch you wherever you are. It's gonna kill as many people as possible. Right, So that's a problem. And if you know that every day

people are losing their mind, how is this you know? Anywhere? I don't know. But the other part of my daughter to day is are people paying attempt I get it. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much, and nobody has the time, the energy, the wherewithal. The mental health issue is important. And so there are a lot of folks out here who have tuned out, they have turned it off because they they cannot maintain the daily

information of what's going on. But I know a lot of people that tell me they don't even watch the news. They don't watch the news, they don't read the papers, they don't know anything. And meanwhile, this serious things because we haven't even talked about what's going on in Mississippi, and Mississippi they're trying to pass all types of laws. They're doing so much it would do a disservice for

me to sing here and go through Mississippi. But Mississippi is dealing with five or six things at one time in terms of all the attempts to destroy communities, to steal resources, and things in response to the water crisis, where they want to take the money that that Mississippi is supposed to get from the federal government for the water crisis. They want to take Jackson, Mississippi's money specifically and put it towards some other things. Then you have

a state like Kentucky. You know, there's so much debate on trans the issue around the trans community and whether or not kids should be able to have their you know, alter their genitals and all of that and everything. There's so many people have different perspectives. But I'm not even there. I'm not even in this I'm not even using this particular part of this conversation to talk about that. I'm just focused on how in Kentucky they passed the law.

The democratic government, I mean, Governor vetoed the law, and now they have again turned around and veto that or did something to overturn it. Where the school district is going to be able to look at the genitols of the children to decide, you know, to like look at them and be able to determine what the genitals are of children. So if the child had yes, that happened, this just happened. I get it that people have different feelings about from their from their explain to me to

what you mean. They're gonna be able to see if the child, something happened to the child, So they're gonna they get to examine the child genitals or something. Yes, they get to examine. The school district can examine the child's genitals to make a determination of I guess what sports they can play, and you know, and to know about the child. Now, mind you, these laws coincide with other places, like I think in Iowa they are talking about if you had your genitals changed, they want it

to be changed back. Like this is some serious shit that's going on out here. So I know people feel like, well, that's not my issue. And I was just about to say that there are some people who probably feel like well, from my spiritual perspective or my religious you know, background, or just why or whatever I feel my family or whatever however I come up. I don't believe that a child should be able to change the genesials, and you have every right to feel that way. But the state

should not have the right to allow people violated. It's too much. The government is doing too much. Like y'all gotta calm down, you know what I'm saying. Like people like I don't agree with a lot of shit. It's a lot of shit that goes on. But I just don't think the government should have, you know, control over people's bodies and be able to examine and tell you what to do and what not to do with you. But I just don't think nobody other than me should be able to tell me what to do with my body.

You know, that's crazy, And that's what I say. You might say, well, I don't care about that issue, or that's not my issue, or I agree with them. But then on the other side, do you like yeah, but I also think women should have the right to have an abortion. And all I'm saying is that people need to be paying attention that all of this is happening at the same time. So first women under the same guys and under the same exactly. First they come for

women's right to choose. Then they come for uh, forcing you to to to um to allow for your genitals to be searched. Hey, then y'all gonna be fucked out soon. They like, no more bbs. Too much money in the medical The government ain't making no money off it. Yeah, I bet you you're crazy. People gotta pay taxes. So the more money that you spend, the more taxes that they get. They get taxes off some money getting a

sex change operation. Yeah, it's the medical And I said they do so, I mean, but that's different because they say this is their Christian values, right, So that's different. And remember that a big part of what white folks, white supremacists are angry about is that they want to maintain population control. And so when people have less children because they are no longer producing or they don't want to carry babies or whatever, it creates a problem where

they continue to diminish in numbers. So all of this or what I'm and then that's why they don't want people to have abortions. It has nothing to they don't give a damn if we kill every black fetus. Ever. They do not give a damn. What they care about though, it's stopping white women who are becoming more career driven, they're having less children. They want to stop them from decreasing and or putting a sort of a stop to the mass production of white children. I mean, all this

shit is like, it's it's deep. It's deep, deeper than the mobuck boy. Listen, even if you don't agree, even if you have a different perspective, you should at least be aware. Yeah, you need to be aware of because the bottom line is when the government has too many control I mean too much control over individual's personal body, in the agency over you. When the government has too much agency over your person, that's a problem. Like that that that is a problem, and it teeters on slaver.

You know, they've never used it, and they've never used it for the right reasons. Never so because by the way, while they're doing all this shit to check your genitals to stop you from having abortion and every other thing they got going on, it's like it's a shitty ass healthcare system that people can't even get their damned medications

and their heart check properly. And we're dealing our friend Tiffany Loft in this dealing with something so crazy right now, with her father being released from the hospital, not being able to walk and can't even make it to dialysis, and they basically are telling him a man who has the he could live, he could live, and they're telling her to just put him in hospice and let him go. So people are dying because we've this system, our healthcare

system has failed. And we know that because millions of people died not just because they had COVID or not because they had COVID, but because they went to shitty hospitals, they sat in their homes dealing with shitty answers or

non answers. And we had a president that, regardless of whether he believed that the pandemic was exactly this or that in the third there was clearly a problem and it should have been handled a certain way, and he did not put his hands around it in time because he was so busy trying to deny that something was going on. The country does not value natural medicine and telling people to be healthy and take care of themselves.

I mean, it's just so much, so while we're so into we're so into managing and monitoring what people do with their bodies, we have not even afforded any of these individuals, any of us as American citizens, with the type of healthcare system that we need in order to be healthy physically and or mentally. So you know, I don't we just sitting up there being like, Wow, I think they right. No, the whole shit is it's a disaster.

It's all fucked up now. And we have a guest though, and I love her so much, so I'm excited to bring our guests on. So now this is not our friend, it's our system. It's our like it was. At one point, she was our baby girl, but she's grown all up. Now she's a big girl. Now she is is so In two thousand and eighteen, we met Shakisha Clemens after she was assaulted by sarah Land, Alabama police officers in

a waffle house. I recently shared the video after getting frustrated because I saw so many people talking about how much they love waffle house or celebrating and sort of joking about a lot of the fights and things that take place in waffle house, and I wanted to remind folks, because you know, we our memories are short, because it's a lot of stuff that's happening about what happened to Shakisha clements and where we have been since that point,

boycotting waffle House and will be forever doing so because I was absolutely I ain't had a waffle a waffle house since, I ain't had a waffle house since, and won't be havn't will never, I'll never probably step back in waffle house rest of my life. And there have been times not long ago, I was traveling with my family. My aunt was sick. We had to get up and pack up everybody and go to Ohio. And you know what, I'm gonna be transparent and go on tell the truth.

I made my parents miss they flight, being late to the airport. Next flight didn't get us in until eleven o'clock at night, and it was one o'clock in an afternoon. I really messed us up. But my sister was with me.

She made me late, she made them late too, And when we arrived my family everybody was hungry and there was literally nothing open except the waffle house, and we as a family decided we would not eat it because we don't eat waffle House period after what happened to our sister, what we saw, which was Shaqisha being an assaulted in d Row and the bigger issue because some people will say, well the police officers did that, it

wasn't you know, it wasn't waffle House. Well, the bigger issue was that a white woman in waffle House tried to charge Shakisha for a plastic ware after they were already eating. They were already eating and paint the bill for food. Then they tried to charge for the plastic wear. And when Shakisha and her friends protested it or contested they didn't want to do it, they said no, the white woman started a whole bunch of shit that ended up being an argument that turned into the police being

called and waffle House did and said nothing. In fact, they were actually offensive. They actually leaned in and supported the police department instead of saying this should never have happened and apologizing properly, they did not do that, and so done with waffle House. And after posting the video,

Shakisha was traumatized, which we discussed. She was completely traumatized, but she's been working and we brought her on this show today to talk about what's been happening in her life post the waffle house and all the other things that's going on. And so I am just so happy to see my sister. Man. How you've been, Yo, mind so good? How you doing? You know, we just you're

still fighting a good fight. You know. I want to say, I'm proud of you just watching you continue to grow into your own you know, you have your level of activism, you have your level of motivation. You're just very motivational individual. And seeing you come from the young girl that we met that was shy and scared and didn't and just seeing you open up and become this motivational figure, you know, it makes me feel proud. So I just want to say,

keep doing what you're doing. Oh well, And I appreciate you out because y'all was like the leading force to pushing me to get to that point. So I appreciate you out just being Yeah, Shakeisha Clemens. You are from Mobile, Alabama. This incident happened in Sarah Lamb which is right outside of Mobile. And one thing I will say is that, um my mother is from a place called Monroeville, Alabama. I've been in now and In fact, my son's family is from what's the town called. My son to come

from Bruton, Alabama. So this is all very close, very close. Except Mobile anyway, it's different. It's closed though an hour here our there. I want to have the most to get to either Bruton, Monroeville or to Mobile, and I have a lot of family and Mobile. And the one thing I will say is that while there are some of my family members that are doing well, there are a lot of younger women and younger men in Alabama

that are not doing so well. In those smaller towns, things are real struggle financially, and there's not a lot of information. So if you don't have a cell phone, which a lot of people do, if you don't have internet. We always take for granted that everybody has internet. Everybody

does not. But if you don't have certain information, if people are not providing information or showing you an outside person expective, all you know is the stuff four or five square miles of your town, and there's a lot of bad things that go on. I mean, your exposure is important, it truly is. So I think what you're doing now, my son I talked about your becoming a motivational person with your workout. Um, you know you started.

You have your your waist vand which I need to go and put mine on right now, Lord have mercy, but you have your um, your your waist vand to help people swimming and work out and keep there themselves fit. And you work out, you work out hard. Now, prior to what happened with your incident of twenty eighteen, were you working out? No? I wasn't. I was like on a mile journey, but it wasn't as extent as it is now. So what did you push you to start working out? Like? What was the thing that said I

need to work out? So that incident really put me in a play where I was the press. I was in a dark space. I didn't know how to let out my emotion and understand why I was coming from. So working out, you know it got me to that point of being able to release my emotion and um, let out the pain and the hurt and just be able to push forward to reach gold, set them, reach them, and you know, just continue to be able to motivate

other people. You know, in that situation, I did motivate a lot of black women to you know, speak out and you know, be a full force for theirselves. So this also pushed me to be able to push forward and motivate a little bit more soil so I find enjoyment with inspiration and motivation. You work out hard? Not you? And you also are you have what they call at

bottom heavy? You an Alabama girl for real? I fedam and how you your mama got a little bit of jump in your trunk and still you You really work out hard, right, um, you know more than most? Like how many hours are you putting into your physical training? Um? Me, personally, I go to the gym and I trying myself at least between an hour to two hours. Just depends on how I'm feeling that day. Um some days I may go. I may get an urn, some days I might. I

might get an hour, two hours and forty five. Men, it just depends on how I feel that day. But um, I believe how many days a week? I go every day? Every day it'sself for itsself for Saturday, and don't go on Saturday because it's like Chiel Day. But I go every day. Yep, wow yeah wow. So for folks who are listening, and then you could go check Shakeisha out on her social media where she promotes and posts a lot about her workout and the journey. Now you decided

to take your experience and move into helping the young women. Yes, a man, that's correct. So tell us about what's happened on April sixteen. So April sixteen, UM, since my incident, I started a nonprofit called Wrong Girls Rule the World, a nonprofity it does strive to be a big sister in the community. UM. We're trying to target the preteens and the teenage girls in the community to be able

to you know, UM, start those conversations with the women. UM, you know, teach them about self care, about financial systems, about goals, about UM, love and life and God and you know, just be that because it's a lot of girls, like you stated in Alabama, it's a lot of UM women down here that does not have that that direction to be able to know suf resources and have this

type of education for this and that. So my purpose for it, this UM, this tea party is to bring the girls together in the community, open up those conversations, start those conversations. UM. My daughter, you know, Live Live is going to the sixth grade next year. This is like the journey for me. He not only me, but for her. And so I know when I transition over from fifth grade elementary over to sixth grade middle school, I learned a lot of stuff that was the wrong information.

And my mom, you know, you know, our parents they are raised basically in that bubble as well, so it's a lot of information that they were weren't taught as well.

So when I transition over to middle school, I found out about a lot of stuff like six and guns and drugs and money and you know, just a lot of different stuff that you know, if someone would have took the time to say, hey, this is what this is really about, this is how this really go you know, I would have had that education on how to move

forward in my life with different things. So with her, this is what I'm trying to introduce to those girls starting that conversation, Like I said, redirect that narrative for our younger girls and you know, just be a big sister in a community to them. So this is what the tea party is going to be about. That that's really amazing. Is this the first is going to be

the first tea party. This is our very first event, and so we're a little we're skeptical, you know, we're kind of anxious and excited, but you know, it's for the battery, it's for the best. It's a free event. We want the girls to be able to dress up in those tea party offices and come and have the teacakes and drink the tea and socialize and um, you know, get educated, to get those program preventional resources, um and

just talk. You know. Yeah. So it's called Butterflies and Flowers Tea Party for preteens and teenage girls from one to four on April sixteen. Now, let me ask you, oh and if for folks who are out there listening, who want to help, who want to donate, who want to support, who want to bring their children, you can follow the group on Instagram and Facebook at Brown Girls Rule the World twenty one. That's Brown Girls Rule the

World twenty one. And from what I hear, Facebook is where all the information is being shared and there's a lot of communication there about the event. Now, you talked about girls dressing up in their tea party outfits. Do you think that that already prevent or places a barrier on kids that don't have a tea party outfit, Like, what is the solution for that? So what we want to do with the tea party outfice, We want to

be able to build confidence. So with the tea party office you always see on TV though the other color women always dress up and they have these nice tea parties where they go and you know, fellowship with these other ladies to do this and do that. Well, I want to regards to be able to like they can do that as well they see other people that look like them to be able to do that as well.

It's not a requirement, We're not requiring everyone to have on that, but you know, it's just something to enlighten the mood, enlighten the you know, the event. So you just want to be able to bring some type of event to them like that because I know it's a lot of us that has never been to a tea party before. You know, what we should do moving forward? Right, Like, since she did bring up a good point, is that prior to each tea party, because we're gonna do this

for the next twenty years. You know, we raise money to have people donate tea party dresses so that the girls who come in who don't have it don't feel out of place, and we're able to give those girls dresses so that everybody is able to fit the decorum. Everybody feels like the aligne with what's going on. So that's something that we should work towards. I love their minds. I like that. I really like that. We're gonna have

to put that in there. And I also think that today, if we want to try to accommodate five to ten girls to get them addressed throughout this week, we can post it and tell people to help support. So do you all have a port like a place where people can donate? Yes, man, we do. We have donate don't namely, it's a link that we have. It's a tax SMIs linkum.

Even if you don't have cash AP or PayPal or demo, you know, you're always a click the link, put in your credit card, debit card information, back account information, any goals right out of your accountbody know, today, I think today's the thirteenth or whatever it is that you all are seeing this, and so you may say, well the sixteenth is right now, but still help because I see my vision. Just it came to me in the vision that even if people just give you two days of donations.

At least they could go out. You could go out and buy a flower, a carnation not carnation, what's that thing called that? People the Presage crossade or maybe the little hat or hat have a box of things that any girl can get something out of it and put it on to make them feel like they are part of the event. So that's what I'm asking. I'm asking for anyone who is listening today to donate. You see

the information. I'm posting the information here, you see it so that you will give an opportunity to Shakeisha and her team to go out and fill up a little box with things that these young girls can put on even if they only had a sweatsuit, they only had jeans, and and and and a T shirt, that they can have something a scar, they can have some type of flower, They can have a little hat that they can add to their outfit that helps to bring make them feel

like they're in the room. So we all should be able to do that. I'm going to start with the first hundred and fifty dollars donation because go and hopefully

pick up some things. I'm going to also make sure that until freedom gives one hundred and fifty dollars today, my son give one hundred and fifty thank you, and we're gonna I'm gonna make sure that Linda and Angelo and others that we go ahead and donate one hundred and fifty dollars today to support what you all are doing and make sure you have something for all the girls. Thank you, Si, and also I do I do want

to reiterate this as well. We are also collecting donations because we are also trying to accommodate two or three young girls that are going to be in this tea party for senior dudes or um, you know, they're junior dudes at school. We do have a few prom dresses that we do have. People have donated prom verses to us, so we do have prom dresses for the prom that is coming up. For those girls who don't have a dress,

we do have those available for them. So we're trying to accommodate as far as like prom, any junior and senior fees that they may have, even crossing over fees that the parents may have. We want to be able to accommodate that as well. We on it. I'm asking everybody that is listening to join us and given one

hundred and fifty dollars. We're not you know, we ain't at five hundred at this moment, one hundred and fifty dollars for each one of us to give to help support what they're doing in Mobile, Alabama, which is a place that I'm telling you, I know, I've been there. I've spent my entire life in Alabama. Some people don't know that, but you know, New York of course is my home, but I have spent literally half of my

life in Alabama being there as a young girl. And I know how detrimental, detrimental it is to get support for these young girls because the system has starved them out. There's no resources, there's economic challenges. They don't get to see the bright lights in the big cities they get. They are in communities where there's a lot of devastation, and basically a lot of them end up pregnant, they end up maybe incarcerated, they end up in really bad situations.

And so what you all are doing with butterflies and flowers, the tea party, but also more importantly, Round Girls Rule the World as an organization is important, and Shakisha I just want to say to you that I'm so proud of what you've been able to do because I know the dark place that we met you in in two

thousand and eighteen. You know, the people who talked about you, lied on you, the friends you lost, the relationships that went bad, the just the insecurities of it all, and more importantly, sitting in that courtroom watching a kangaroo trial take place where they had no intention whatsoever of ever giving you justice. It has and in fact you there were charges against you, so you have a record. Should see word, should I ever seen man? So you know, we like we just want to say we appreciate you,

We celebrate you. You look you don't look like you've been through. You look like the phoenix that rose from the ashes, and you continue to grow into this, this budding young leader, you know, an excellent mother and just continuing to do the things in the community and painting forward. So we're gonna support you every time. You know, you got both of our phone numbers, and whenever you need us, we're gonna be there place. I know where, I know

where I know. I love y'all, y'all people forever. Right. Well, congratulations April sixteen. Y'all, we need one hundred and fifty dollars today. Thank you, thank you, Love y'all. Shout out to Shakisha Clemments. Man. I love that girl and and everything that she's a woman. She's a little girl to you, but she's still gonna be She always gonna be my little girl, but who's evolved into an enormous leader, a

great leader and motivator. You know. Support her organization, Brown Girls Ruler World and her events Butterflies and Flowers Tea Party Immobile, Alabama from one to four. Make sure that you go to the site to get the exact address, but donate some money to it. Man, we want to see all of those girls come out there and they little tea party dresses and their hats. But the court sagers. So we're gonna We're gonna invest in it, and we

want you to invest in it too. You know, Shakisha has damn you know, I remember so I remember seeing watching her grow from you know, I remember crying watching that that waffle house situation and hitting you up like, yeah, we gotta go fight for this young lady, you know what I'm saying. And to see her, you know, go to all. Like you said, we went to that court case with her. We marched through sarah Land where they told us that they might shoot us down. My god,

we went through a lot of stuff. People don't even know the stuff that we've been through, but you know, and Shakisha was brave through it all. Man. She didn't know what to do, you know, and she trusted us. We trusted her, and we stood with her, and we fourth through it all. Now she's evolved into this motivational individual who is you know, giving back and providing energy and providing you know, that level of big sisterhood to

the young black and brown girls in her community. So we want to make sure that we continue to support her. And butterflies and flowers tea party, We're gonna give up her flowers as we talked about join us, y'all that one fitty speaking of young black girls, My don't get it. It's about another young black queen that has garnered a lot of attention. You know, I've just seen that the final for the Women's Final four that I mean, the Women's championship game that she played in was the most

viewed in history. So they made history with the views, you know, Um Andrew Reese, you know, the young they call her Miss Deevil Devil, the BUYU Barbie, you know, straight out of Baltimore. You know, she has a passion and energy and a will to win. She reminds me of the female Kobe Bryant, like she just has a killer instinct. And you know, I really don't get it.

So many things I don't get. I could point out, you know, people calling her class lists, you know, the owner of bar still calling her classes piece of shit. I can point out Jill Biden deciding or voicing that she would like both of the teams to come to the White House even after LSU was victorious, and it's never been done before with the losing team goes to the White House. And I could point out how that

didn't make sense and I didn't get that. You know, I could point out how numerous people all over criticize this, this young lady. But what I really what I think I've really don't get is why do we celebrate the

passion that same passion in male athletes. Why do we look at Draymond and we look at Kobe, and we look at Alan Noviston and we look at Jordan who talk shit, and we looked at all of those those are our favorite players in the world, and we never heard people criticize them the way that we watched this young girl who had the same level passion that each of those players had get called all types of names and have to defend her passion. You know, I really just don't get it. I felt it was so unfair.

I've trash talked through our games. We watched, you know, the young lady who she's playing against, who is actually the best player in the nation, you know, And that's when you talk shit. You want to talk shit against the best. When you beat the best player in the nation by fifteen to twenty points and you win pretty much the whole game, and you watch watch that player talk shit to your friends and all around and even talk shit to you before you're coming there with a

chip on your shoulder. You're gonna talk shit at the end of the game because that's what we do. We told we want to look at you and say you ain't better, Yeah, I whipped your ass. That's what That's what that's what the fire is about. That's that killer instinct. You want to look at the best player and say you ain't better than me. I'm the best player. That's what That's what that fire is about. You say, that's what that fire is about. So why we why we

don't celebrate it in women when we see it? Why is this something classless about a woman having that same energy and that same player. You know what I'm saying. I want to continue. And that's why, you know what I'm saying. That is why I think most people don't

respect the women's basketball lead because they don't see that enough. Right, Yeah, but those are the things, because the thing is people want view it if you've seen that level of intensity, if you've seen that level, if there was rivalries and there was that level of intensity, and everybody's I want

I believe so because it's provident. I think that if that was more celebrate, if it wasn't a little frowned upon that women had this level and it had that level of competitive nature to where two people that's that's dogs, that's going growling at each other after every ball, we're filing, we're looking at each other like, yeah, I'm gonna whip your ass. They do do it. Because sometimes when I am like you know, sometimes I just stopped because There's

been a few women's players that I like. You know, I don't really watch sports, but a few times, especially with the young lady her name is Tamika catchings Um. When she was playing, I would go every now and then and watch it, Yeah, because she share my name and everybody used to talk about how great she was, so I would watch it check her out. And they do have because they do. They are very competitive and they have a lot of aggression. But it's not amplified.

It's not well, that's what I'm saying. I just want it's clear that it is literally muffled in the media. Like that's the issue. It doesn't receive the same respect, they don't get paid the same they're not respect they don't get the same endorsement deals. So this is an issue. But the thing is you have to the question is

not about basketball. That's a great question, and I appreciate you for even acknowledging it, which I know that over time you've become very very clear and sensitive to how women are treated different, right, and so I appreciate that.

But this is not a basketball problem. This is an American or a world's problem, a societal problem in terms of how women are constantly devalued, and how patriarchy plays out in our society where there is more reverence and respect and acknowledgement and celebration of men for the same exact task. I was watching a film returning from Europe. I watched the movie about it's called The Independent, and I suggest any and everybody go watch this film. It's

called The Independent. It's about a guy running for president white man. He's an independent and he becomes a superstar because, like you know, he's saying the right things. And it's at a time at school shootings, at this and that and all the ship and people are looking for something different and it ends up being a clusterfuck at the end of the movie. But it was really good. But there's a black woman in the newsroom and she has

suggestions about great news stories, including covering this independent. So she's all into, you know, trying to pitch different stories. If you ever see the bullet the bullypen or the bullpen, excuse me, the bullpen where they all the reporters are in there and they're meeting and they're kicking out story ideas and those and some of them are chosen for front pages and important placement in the paper and online

or whatever. This is what the scene is. So she explains what she thinks should be done in terms of covering the Independent and how it ties to some of the issues around public schools and students and different things. They don't the white man who is the head of the newspaper, he's like he's the main editor or whatever. He's just like, no, you don't know what you're talking about.

He completely He basically disrespects her, But any disrespects white folks in the room too, So it's just the culture. But when she finally convinces him that the story is important, he turns around and does a double whammy. And this is why people have been upset with me for saying that sexism is worse than racism in some situations. Well, it's worse than racism, but I was speaking about a black woman being Kamala Harris when I said it, and

how sexism is worse. It's a double whammy. So you already are dealing with racism, which is horrible, and then when you are a woman, it compounds the issue and now you have to deal with that as well. Right, so to hell. But whoever didn't understand it. But I'll give you an example. He turns around, takes her story and gives it to a white man who is her junior. He's not even as smart as she is, but he

gives it to this white man. Two things happen. One, he gave it to a white person, so that was racist. But he also gave it to a man, as if to say that he was not confident in her as a woman, a black woman, that she could do the job. So this is where the double whammy of sexism and racism exists. And that's what we see playing out not just in basketball, but it plays out in corporate boardrooms, it plays out in politics, it plays out in our communities.

It's all over. It's all over the place. And then let me just finish my point with this or bring another point. I appreciate Caitlin Clark, the young lady who you said is the number one player or whatever. She's the best too. I respect her because when asked about it, first of all, homegirl did an interview. She was super cool. She wasn't all charged up and whatever. Super cool. No, I ain't going to the White House because that's not

what you're supposed to do. I hope I get invited at another time, and you could tell that she has been trained to make sure that she covers all bases. So she circled back and said, and I appreciate that the first Lady came to the game and that so many powerful people and important people and special people were there to watch us play. That was great. But no, I would not take that away from LSU. There's no

runner up situation. She should They should be going on their own and we should be invited to go to the White House at the time. I would love to do that. So she she got a politics in order, her a personal politics. Then she got a race relations in order because and she didn't say it when they asked her, but she just said yeah and continued on. She didn't yeah, yeah, that that angel Ye should not be receiving any backlash or criticism for what she did.

I've done trash talk. That's what the game is all about. She covered all her basis in that interview and talked about how great the team was. She made sure to dispel narratives that were out there, and she hit women's rights. Why is it that we are seeing different when we do certain things that's right. Whoever's training, whoever's working with Caitlin, they're doing a damn good job. She's definitely the truth. When I watched it, I was like, let me see

what she's gonna say. And when I heard, I was like, Wow, she gets it. You know's and you know she know more, but she just knows politically, she's politically savvy enough to say what I need to say. What I was saying. What you what I'm gonna say. That's what make you say that I says the bullshit? You know what I'm saying. You can't. You can't just do nothing. I said, you can't make it. See I said exactly what I said, and you know what I meant. But you can't say

I said what I meant, right, you can't. You can't use my words against me to start another two weeks of the cycle that gets my people all up and the panties and a bunch. So I'm just gonna say it, and and and and that's privilege, and that is white privilege. Let's be clear, because I know that somebody's like, oh yeah, but that's what we want. That's what we want white

people to use their privilege for. We want you to walk around with your privilege and use it to dispel myths and speak on behalf of shit that you know is wrong that we're dealing with every day because we know we can't say so when you can't say it. But when when angel Rea says it, like I'm sure that at some point she's she's the way that she's so blunt, the way that she's so real and raw and everything that she's saying, a part of that comes from the trauma of being black. No matter what it is,

you're gonna throw anyway being black. But Caitlin, as a privileged white woman or privileged young white woman, she ain't got to walk all the way into the lions Den, but she's sure enough made sure she got up on the gates close enough that you knew she was dead. And I appreciate that about her. So that's all I have to say, and that's all that needs to be said. Man. Once again, another dope episode of Street Politicians. Shout out to our guests and people who follow us continue to

support us. Number one, number one, number one, the number one podcast comes to streets and politics when it talks about that's real, real, We got the best podcasts out here, right, Tomka absolutely absolutely, man, so I guess Jaqisha Clemens. Make sure you support Brown Girls through the World and her event Butterflies and Flowers Tea Party April sixteen for one to four in Mobile, Alabama. Go to her website support we got Me Me and Tamika is putting up our

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