What's the family. It's your girl to make a d. Mallard and it's your boy my son in general. And we are your hosts of street politicians, the place with the streets and politics meet. Can we use like other people's music, like back Together? Probably not, They're probably gonna try to us. And you know, na, I think you gotta say, I don't right to this music. That's the jam. I like that. I like that. Oh yeah, okay, you know and uh back together again, Yeah, that's the jam.
They don't know anyway. What is this that you have on today? It's nice the black people? Black people, let me take one of the shoes. Oh my god, are you serious? And it's okay, don't put the bottom on the table, just whole and then I'm gonna give you some hands and genesee to give you the thing where she tried to kill me today. She made me wipe my hands with the hospital. The hospital, and we borrowed the whites from the hospital. But we did because they
told us it was a pandemic. So they told us it was to borrow means still we did not when they said we borrowed, and they said in that manner, at what happened was because it was the pandemic we had. They told us to take those whites and to really clean the house down. It was the beginning of the pandemic, and you couldn't get and you couldn't get whites. Well, I just I don't want to say. I don't want to say I took or stole because I didn't. They gave it to us. Well, okay, so is the wrong word.
But they gave us because you couldn't get whites and stuff exactly. And so they said on these particular whites, they said, do not use with your hands. And I'm sitting over here, I let this lady give me a wipe. I didn't look at where it came from or what the container looked like, right, because it's purple and white and its really industrial stuff. You know that our studio is what two floors up from a major plastic surgery office with a medical office, right, So there's medical stuff
in that building. So they wipe. Didn't want to stay COVID free, and so they're doing the extra extra, not the regular lights on. So I go and I use it, and all of a sudden, I start going I'm like dying and She looks at me and goes, oh, yeah, maybe you're not supposed to be that. I was. No, I was okay you Why don't we put you one over? I was standing right. No, you wasn't know I touched it.
It probably went through my finger. Yeah. And speaking of nasty net like super duper net, I know, I'm serious. I don't feel this is my personal conviction. I personally do not feel that any group of people should be in a society where you cannot walk up and down the streets or be at a restaurant, or or be or just just have freedom of eating or living in your apartment without rats, physical rats running around rampant. That is not okay with me. And and and I'm not
trying to be like Boujie too nobody. No, but I don't care. I don't care. If you are houseless, you should not have an influx of rats running around you. Our friend Emil text me last night and said that he was walking in the middle of the street in Harlem to get home because there was like four or five rats all around, like on the side walls. This is not It's like, it's like imprisonment. It's not cool. No,
it is the red thing is out of control. I've seen something on Instagram when they had something they looked like a beaver and they said it was a rat. It looked like a beaver. There's no way this rat. The rat was like racon No it was you're talking about me being about the white bro that rat. It did not look like it looked different, but it was still the size of these big as New York. This rat was about this big. Yes it was. They had the trap they had, Man, you're bugging. You didn't see it.
It wasn't that big. But it's a big rat. But it still wasn't that big. I'm just saying you shut listen. We need you to show it. Why would they want to say that because you're sending it. Stopped sending me that, because no, I'm not. I'm into seeing it. I'm into trying to stop it. I'm literally the mayor of New York City and tell him that I want to be want the task for us. I said this before, but I need to do it for real. I want to be on the task for us to deal with rats.
It is not fair. And just now somebody else sent me a video where the rat is running through the fried chicken spot. Now in in there in the food, eating the chicken. Now here's a problem with that, right, here's the issue. And I've been saying this for a while. First of all, you know, when I go out somewhere, aren't gonna lie if I'm coming back from a long drive, or if I go out and I'm clubbing or whatever, I go by the chicken joint and get me a
piece of chicken. I mean, that's just a normal thing. Sometimes you're in the middle of your day, you're hustling, and you need something to eat, and you just don't have an opportunity to go. You know, I don't eat fried chicken like that anymore. But the fried chicken joint is a part of the culture of like you in New York, you live in the hood, you understand that's what it is. And you're telling me I've never ever
and I'm not saying it wasn't there before. But the point is now, all of a sudden, the rats is they are just bold in the day, out in anywhere. And no, there's more rats. I mean, that's that's no. No, it has been verified the people that study rats and underground and stuff, because during the pandemic. When they moved the restaurants outside and the garbage was not being properly contained, then they had This is what took place. Like I
hope that you guys put in this footage. I'll send you a picture of the garbage built up near a woman's house that I know. I went by to visit her and her the garbage is disgusting. It's bags of garbage. Everywhere in her house is extremely clean, but there's no way that it's just a matter of time. Put it that way. Even that lady that we saw on Lisa Ever show that had the rats with the you said, beaver in the house, it doesn't look dirty, but the
rat is running through her child's clothes. No limits where these rats can go. They've reached it all time high. I'm not I don't know if it's the numbers of different differing. What I'm saying is the boldness they come out.
They stand up on the high legs. They're giving you five you know, for real, like they're standing on it because I shopping now, if you want to see, if y'all want to hear the call that I'm at the hospital, because that's what it seems like it seems like people are trying to make us accept rats as and I don't even know what people I'm talking I mean many dimensions.
You don't even say how real that is. It's not even just in the physical but the rats want to be accepted society, and these physical rats are really speaking for the rest of the rats. Listen, if you want to ship, do you mind as well let us come outside. You're a fool. Yeah, they get chill on the blocks with y'all outside everywhere. Yeah, but we're not going to accept this. I'm not. I'm telling you I'm going full fledged.
I might take I if I listen, I may take a leave of asses to go work for the Mayor's office in the department where they deal with rats. I'm dead serious about this. This is not something I'm playing about. Now. Here's my only, my lad final point, not my only. This is my final point for today on this issue. Ob eats, door dash and all of that. You don't know, right, Like you don't know if we're seeing the rat eating
the chicken in the window. If you know anything about the chicken spot in New York, you see the chicken, it's right there. How the hell does the rat even get up the thing and in the thing and in the things supposed to be closed the glass where the chicken is behind the glass. Sometimes I don't know if some of these na bron because some of that don't even make how they get inside of the comment. Well, because you know, first of all, we which you and I already know if you eat at the chicken spot,
you already eating nasty anyway, like dirty chickens. We're going to yeah, we we we acknowledge that. Okay, BB and numbers over there, they've got a little dirty chickens. You know, it's not filthy. That's not nice. Yeah, but it's not nice. It's actually like derogatory to put it in the context of dirty chicken it in the hobbyby. But it is true most of them, most of the middle Easter, yea, they have chickens and they're not that clean. You're filthy.
You know, they got their little bucket that you see them doing a little sweet But you know, it's just not those types of spots, even restaurants, even the local whatever whatever kind of store, when it's local and it's the spot, they don't be that clean. That's don't they don't have the spot list because I don't eat sandwiches from the regular bodega like and you wait, wait, listen. You know in my hood they got this fish with the salad. This that's one of my favorite mans. I
go to the hood to get my seafood mill. This is one of the best meal grill shrimp. They do. They do everything. Then, so shout out to the the Dominicans on one seventy person. Man, they got the best food the bottom. Don't one's saying that it's not good because the local Chinese joint is good, the local the local bodega is good, the local pizza shop, the local chicken joint. I'm not taking away anything from them. And by the way, even if I did, people are not
gonna stop and I eat it, tear it up. What I am saying is that we all know that we're when we go to these places, we are going to grade down in terms of what we're gonna get from a cleanly perspective. But now, if you got the rats running around in the food, it concerns me because when you and and by the way, just so we make it clear, the local spots might be have issues, but there's some major restaurants, these fancy is all around um and being stored in the basement. They say, that's the
worst place. That's not the most place where I see rats. So when you tell me when you go downtown with all of the top made, when we walk outside of those restaurants, it won't be thirty and forty rats running down all the time? Are you kidding me that I know exactly where you're talking about and that particular area, I just can't. I mean, again, it would be, it would be very it would be it would be perceived in a very discriminatory way if we talked about who
is located in that dish. But I'm just trying to tell you it's a bunch of rats, all those those spots below thirty four, strewn on those blocks Fifth Avenue and all that. When you come out of those restaurants, it is rats. Yeah, it is. Okay. I'm not saying, oh no, no, you're not. I'm not sitting here making the case that there's not as many rats downtown. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that even and I'm
not just talking about down there. I'm saying that even at Sylvia's right in Harlem because of the way they keep the restaurant there. I've actually I've never and I know the rats all around there, but I have never walked out and had a rat running outside of Sylvia's because they keep it super clean. They got the garbage a certain type of way. So we're not talking about black restauranes, so people won't be like, oh, you think
white establishments. I'm saying that. I'm saying that there are certain if they don't keep their their garbage together and and more over, which we should really be saying a lot of these places just because of the mere fact that they're in the hood, they don't try to take care of their restaurant and the grounds and the outside. They pour grease on the ground, which is a problem because the grease is clearly it has the seasoning and
the smell of whatever in it. It's attracting things. It's nasty. We already have dealt with roaches and seemed like roaches the roaches go away because I don't see roach. I see water bugs, but I don't see roaches. But what I'm all I'm saying to you is be aware because if you are buying food from Uber eats and door dash and those types of places. You don't know what you're getting. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but I know,
I'm just telling you you never meant that. Well, now it's starting to see all the things you don't know the card most of these people you don't even knowing. It's nasty. I am cooking more because no, because how about no? I bet you know. So listen, we don't have the time today to get deeply into Tyree Nichols man. I mean bro like yo, like I know people who are experiencing serious trauma, like at work and everything. My friend told me the other day, I actually Jamie Um.
She told me that they held they held like a a grief session during work because people are so like emotionally drained that you gotta go to work after you watch the lynching, like people cannot. It is this is too much, it's too much. But what I I did want to focus on one particular part, and I feel so sorry for that man's family and just his daughter. Like people, I mean, these people have kids and I and I have to be honest with you, you know, I feel sorry for the families of five people that
made the most not more than five. What we're up to like seven eight people at this point. Matter of fact, it's more than that because you got the what we said the MS work is, then you have the all the officers. So all of these black people that were involved. I am going to say today that I want to believe, and this is my thought that I have been struggling
with and trying to process. I want to believe that those black people, I think the numbers about seven, that none of them had a mama that taught them that ship or that would agree with what they did. I want to believe that they black mama, black daddy, doesn't matter where dad maybe not in the house, maybe away whatever,
wherever he may be. I still want to believe that even a mama, daddy whoever, because we you know nowadays it could be mom, dad whoever in prison, I want to believe that that parent who might be locked up, even in that situation, is calling their child saying what the hell was that? Why would you be involved? What are you doing? I just need to believe that that they were not raised, especially down in Memphis, by parents
and a family that supports that type of behavior. Their entire family structure has been completely ripped apart because of AID and because of a need to uphold white supremacy and a need to feel validated by abusing other people, maybe because they feel that there they don't have value. I don't know what it is, but the self hatred and what that has now caused, it's it kills me. It was it was a gang assault. It was it
was a gang assault. And to not not identify the police as a gag, right, It's just it's not being honest. And we and we could say there are good cops, we can say all these things, but there's a structure within the police system that makes you believe that it feeds into the narrative that black people are dangerous, right, So, and even when you tell other black people that, right, and they feel like they're protected by this system that has always protected them, that have we not seen this
on camera? Like the only reason that we we've got justice in any situation is we had pure video. And even times when we've had video, we didn't get justice. So this is a system that makes even black people who go into the system believe that you can get away with harming a black person. All you have to do is say that you feel like your life is
a gey. All you have to do is say that they resisted the rest because these are the narratives that have been painted about us, that we are hard, we are dangerous, that your life is always in jeopardy when you interact. You can be a kid it that's ten years old, or you can be a man that's forty. You can be a woman who's who who actually composed no threat, and they can use the same story over and over to to have no accountability for taking your life.
So this is what the system and what the structures, and these men fell into that you know, they felt that whatever reason, they pulled that man over and them chasing him, and they because we don't know, we don't know. There's so many people that want to spread and until family members and to its, until people that I know and respect can say this, this has been substantiated, we are sure these things prior relationship. Because I'm just so tired.
I've watched listen to me, I've been paying attention to social media, and I've watched social media create so many narratives or if one person tweeted, well what if this happened? And then what happens is people saw spreading memes and people saw spreading means and they create this whole thing, and I mean it becomes real because remember that woman that uh was in the video attack and Champwhilla Robinson, there was about a good three weeks of her being
trans like they was just she's a trans woman. She you know, and nobody has to now now, you know, not to say that she's not. She could be. I don't know, but I do not think so. And it's highly unlikely. And it is also based upon um Tyree Nichols family. Highly unlikely that you don't as a family members, Mom and daddy don't always know what you was doing, you know, when you was doing what she was doing.
They always know. But they're saying it's not true, that this story is not true, and they don't have to be true because the police beat up on people all the time time, especially black people. So you know, stop stop stop looking for something to justify and substantial people people. That's what we always do. Well, let me see the rest of the film. You can see and puts him in the face. He ain't got his hands are He's like, please, please, well,
let me see what caused them to do it. There's nothing that could cause you to just be punching and kicking or something. I don't need to see nothing else. If a man is sitting there stomping a woman out and she well, I want to know what she did
for me, I don't even know all of that. You know what I'm saying, that's not I don't understand the mindset that comes with the need to know what has happened before someone has been violated, like the world they or they citizen, Well, you know she said this or he said that. So no, there's no justification when I look at those things. I know that the handbook policing that ain't in the handbook even if he did do
whatever whatever. Once you're no longer a threat, once you are no longer a threat, once you are physically not a threat and you can't harm someone, and you can see that, there's no justification for you continue to abuse it. But can I ask you a question. Our police officers allowed to just punch people? Well, I'm serious, Like, is that a part of the tactic punching? Actually, I'm I'm under the impression that if you that police officers, if
they feel threatened. They don't punch their taste or shoot. It's legal lucive. Maybe they maybe they maybe those units are like the scorpions. And my thing is those things violate. You're right when you punch me in my face if I'm not harming you, and there's no need for you to punch me. There's no need for you to punch me in my face. So if I hit you as an officer, is it just do whatever you gotta do.
I'm not saying, I'm asking you, is that sometimes you're reflexing so they could justify and say, well, this person hit me, so that was a natural reflex. So you're not supposed to have a reflex, And that's what they're saying you. You can't have a reflex. They can grab you, push your your your face to the ground, be breaking your arm and you you pull up and the wait way you're hurting me. You're resisting the rest, so now they can impose more harm on you. It's not even
these things don't even make comments sense. There's no way that you gonna grab me and me pulling my motherfucking shoulder out the socket and not expect me to try to straighten my shoulder because you don't hurt me and turn around and get off the floor because you got my my face in the ground and applies. He said, it hurts. That's why it's a simple. And why won't you just stay still? Because I can't because it hurts. Hurts, you know what I'm saying. So I don't. I don't
know what these policies and procedures are. The policies and procedures are not working. That's what I know. No man of any level account they want to protect his life. That's over before. So y'all donna have to find something else. I got the stuff back on my hand. That's the white I bet you're gonna leave that white below. Oh I know that thing had me choke and it went through my hand to my nose. Listen, man, listen, r
I p to tree and all the tyre's yes. Well, I don't know how you go to the guests from well we go, we go from laughing the crime, that's right. Listen. People are mad at me now because I posted a video the other day of this guy in his argument with God, and he is cussing guard out like he's so tired and so mad and so seeing everything. Of course, the cuss words is a lot. Of course, you never called God out of his or her name. I get it.
But he's not talking to God. He's talking to us, and he is making a joke about the frustration that people are feeling. And there's thousands of people who are like, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life, because I feel like this sometimes. And then there's some folks who teld me that they can't believe that I would ever posted it. They can't believe it, They can't believe that. You know what I said, I ain't that perfect.
But one thing I do know is that I've seen people murderous, kill people, hurt, people, do all types of things. And guess what the same book that or the same religious or the spiritual beliefs that you have that says don't curse God. It's the same spiritual belief that should tell you that number one, number one, he still loves you even if you cuss, even if you murder somebody, even if whatever you do. That's book, that spiritual nous that you have says judge not judge not someone else
because it could be your situation. So guess what I'm not that perfect. And I also do not reduce my God to a point that he can't take a good joke. I just don't. It was funny, it was. It was hilarious. Oh man, it was hilarious. Oh they was so theyre so mad, they'd be all right, they of language, and he wasn't talking to God. And one of my friends who really is like a super spirit spiritual person, she's a makeup artist, um cold marrow from um from from
l A. She said, well, you know. She went on to talk about the spiritual journey and how God doesn't put more on you than you can't then you can handle, and she said it don't be cussing at my God. But at the end she said, but that was funny though, I'm like, yeah, you see, I'm saying, let's let's not do the extra take a laugh some time. Let's bring our guests on, because I laughed about bring them all. Last week we went to see our first of all, our good friend um A Ran Gatson called and said
we had to be. He sent me a text message and told me I had no choice but to get myself my two feet um to a movie theater to see the premiere of a film. We're being joined today by two of the incredible people that helped to make this film happen. Uh. It's called Aurora. You know when I first saw that, I was like, Okay, what is this that A has us? You know what we're going
to see today? And it was all of that and then some And I want to introduce our guest, Um Noel Callaway, the writer and director for this project, and also Joachima hollis Um who is the star actress, the lead actress. I would like to I'm gonna say, because you have black woman, so I'm gonna say your lead actress, no matter who else might have been the lead, but you were, but you you are, you are, and it it's an all black film. It's black Andy black, black black.
And you know, let me just tell you in the say to all of you who are who are looking, and hopefully you see the beauty the blackness here. But after the film was over, when you all did your talk back and you all were sitting there, I don't know if it was the light or what, but it was just beauty from you all the way to the end, where every single person, the young people, the skin just the popping nous of that black and brown beauty and culture and the film, which you guys are gonna talk about.
It was so good from beginning to end. You know, now, I don't like some people because I'm like walking around holding grudges about some of the things that happened and the film. Yes, but I was actually sitting next to like the worst of them all. Uh you know what's her name? She's the Latina sister who merrily could terry as the actress who plays Nina. I'm gonna defending a little bit of any but not yet, not yet, not yet. So tell us about the film, Um, what is it about?
And then of course we're gonna get into why all of you got involved. Yes, So first, thank you guys for I'm a super fan of the platform of the work you do, so I appreciate the opportunity to be here. Thank you, Thank you. Interviews with people will necessarily but this is real. Thank you. And yeah, So first I talked about the beauty. Um, the beauty was important to me, right from the landscape beautiful Puerto Rico, to the different shades of brown that I wanted to put on screen,
you know, different ages of different sizes. I really wanted to show the spectrum of our beauty UM in destination wedding movie. Right, it's a movie about love, but it's a layered love. It's not, to say the least romantic love that you see a lot of times on screen. And we deliberately started it that way. I wanted everybody to be on this high and its this this destination wedding with these beautiful people, and then it just smack you with the twist, the drama. Um And so yeah,
it's a love story with the twist. That's what we like to call it. It's it's a rom calm. You'll laugh, but then you'll find yourself y'alling at the screen and trying to figure out, you know, who you hate. So we're super proud of it. What does the name Aurora actually means? So, as I when I wrote, I usually right before I title a film, because the title come
to you, the title it really come to me. Um, I had to dig a little deeper, and Aurora means a natural phenomenon, which is like a flash of light in the sky, uh, And I used it to symbolize what Giselle Joachima's character Giselle did to Kenny, and that when you see that person in your has been protected because of the past experience. It takes that type of
strong natural phenomenon that woman to break through that. And so you know, her name was not Aurora in the film, which I think is a simple way to go right right, but after person, I wanted to name it after feeling. So that's what being a lead actress. And you know, I love the film, So I know about the film. We're not gonna give everybody, you know, everything right. What made you when you heard when you heard this role, what made you saying that this is this is something
I want to be. Yeah, you know, when I read it, I immediately felt that Giselle was a multifaceted woman, and I like that she's a woman who's still on a journey of trying to figure out what she wants out of life, how to get it. And I really love that she's allowed to be imperfect, because I think too often in life black women feel like we have to have it together, we have to be perfect in order to get the guy and get the career and juggle it all. And Gizell is just trying to figure it out.
And so I was really drawn to that aspect of her. You know, she's she's imperfect, but she's figuring it out and she's getting there. Well, She's sure she figured out a lot as far as I'm concerned. And I mean, you you talked about why you wrote this film, So maybe you could tell us a little bit about that today, because I felt I found the story to be very powerful about your own experience and how we see it
on screen. Yeah. So I had the the blessing of being married on a beach in Aruba, uh too the woman of my dreams uh in front of six pi something of our friends and family. And coming from a kid from hallm Um, we didn't travel a lot when I was younger. We didn't have these experiences that now
my daughter has. But I know that our culture sometimes needs those experiences, right, needs that escapism, needs to be able to go to a destination wedding, even if it doesn't happen in their family, because if I can show it on screen, then maybe someone would think, oh maybe
I can do that. Right, And so having that vibe at my wedding with you know, it's friends, family, grandparents, kids, everybody just partying, having a good time loving each other, and then there's drama and there's craziness, and you know, all of that was something I wanted to bottle up and put into a film. And you know, My Love is kind of boring in that we don't have drama. It's not boring, you know, boring to the outside. We haven't the top of our lives before. Too boring for
the audience. Yeah, they don't like that. So I said, all right, we can't tell our story per se, but I'll start with the base of our story, the love in our story. Um, and then I'll let my mind take you where it goes. Talk about the casting process, um so yeah, Elsa Latern. I have to shout our casting director. She was amazing, Melissa Martin, one of our producers, who was very integral in the casting process. Um. I and I guess we'll talk a little bit about this.
I don't watch everything because everything is good, intelligent, it isn't, you know, it doesn't. I watch a lot of old stuff, So when it's not for me to cast, I'll be thinking about people from the wire, you know, who we see in this film. I would think people from you know, shows and movies that I've watched years and years ago that are not necessarily current, and there's so many talented actors and actresses right now, and so I let them
take the lead on it. Right. Um, there are actors I know, like asking Montique Harper who plays Sophia, Mark John Jefferies who put kills will um? You know. So there's some actors that I know that I know that Jason Hurt who played They see who are super talented don't always get looks right. And so I came to it in certain roles saying, these people are playing these characters because I know them, I know their talent, I
know they don't kill it. Outside of that, I'm going to hand in the casting and you guys put it out there. Let's see who submits and who you know we've got. We've got some quote bigger names that submitted, but when I looked at their tapes, they didn't match up to who we casting, right, And so I said, you know, let's just make a great movie with beautiful talented people and we'll see what the ships want. I'm just trying to figure out how do I put my submission,
So I need to know the process. You don't about to put my little tape together. So now you and that, you and that in a service. As I watched the film, you know, I was just, first of all, I love the cast, I love the film and the plot twist. I just came on to Knowe and just was like, so, I'm just trying to figure out as a director. You're sitting and you writing these things, like what was going through your mind? Did you say to yourself, I want this to be I wanted to be just compelling. I
was like, what was the idea? What was your mind state when you sat down and you just wrote this? Well, by the way, just so I could, I knew something was happening. I was very clear from like two or three minutes in. I'm like, something's up with her with what's her name? I'm sorry, Joachimo, what's your account? Giselle? I gotta see because I want to call you exactly who you are, like I'm ready to be like you no, no, but Giselle, I was I felt like something was happening.
So you did a good job of making sure that people are captivated that I know something is coming, versus just sitting there like oh okay, okay, okay, you know, I was like, oh, I saw that look, I saw all those eyes and you know, anyway, so sorry, and
that was them all right. So I'll talk to a little bit about the story, um and the way I tell story, right, Like I make films, I don't like to be called the independent filmmaker, just because it's a connotation that goes with that, that people think it's not gonna be on the level that my productions are. Um, I'm a person who makes films and the family, but I'm not, you know, an indie filmmaker, just because there's
some connotation around that I don't agree with. UM. So when I write story, I want to challenge my people. I trust our intelligence, right, I trust us to be able to follow a plot line because I make movies for for black people that other people can enjoy. Like, that's what I do. UM, I don't apologize for that. That's my audience, that's my backgrounds. Who I am. And when I find actress is like Jachima, actors like Tobias
and I hand them this these words. It's up to them to give you, guys that feeling right and I can wrecked them, but I also just give them the stage to say on this character. You know, we spoke about the character, and I give her a lot of credit. She asked for the whole script. A lot of actors don't do that, right, so they like, give me the size, let me read it. Oh, i'll do it. I'm flying to Puerto Rico. Are you gonna pay me good? I'll
do it. She cared about the character, about the scope of it, and then we talked about it and we built Giselle together until I was comfortable to say, now take her and make her what people would love hate and everything in between. And so those subtleties that nuanced, that's talent she did that. Yeah, yeah, you are a professional. Yes, look at you. Okay, she does a lot of things. And I noticed that when you start paying attentions when I was watching the film, and I was like, wow,
this is really a good cat. I know that a lot of these you know, actors. Um what what else do I want to know? I want to know how was the because basically when we had when you had to talk back, it looked like you had good Karai the rest of the castle. What was that like being in Puerto Rico together like that? It was amazing You know, we filmed this at the height of the pandemic, So this was an opportunity to get out of our homes, out of the spaces we were in because we were
all at home going crazy. You know, you're you have cabin fever, you want to work, you want to do your art, you know, and uh, at that time, nothing was really happening in the world, you know. So it brought us out of that space and brought us into this amazing creative space and we all lived together and like these amazing huge houses that were right on the beach. So it was really like a family a fair like
a family environment. Uh. And it was just super supportive and it was black in the best way because I think sometimes unfortunately when people say, oh, it was so black, it has a negative connotation to it. Unfortunately, was not that this was the best of blackness ever. It was so good, and we had a lot of local people that brought their flavor to it and they were happy
to be there. So it was a great experience and I think you can see how that spilled over into the film and just in the way that we interact with each other. I ran Bay Camps, I ran you know, sleepaway camps and those. That skill set was important because we're flying people from all over the country to Puerto Rico. I'm managing housing, right. A good friend of mine own all of these properties, which was a blessing, right, um,
And so I gotta make sure that they're comfortable. I gotta make sure that we were together, right, and so that I underestimated how much that would impact what they did on the screen. I just, you know, make sure my people good, right. They're all out here trusting me, you know, So I had to make sure they were good. But just that feeling of ease to be in a
comfortable space, it just allowed them to just kill it. Yeah, and you know, like what I appreciated it was sexy, definitely, And you know, we obviously see scenes where we know their sex, but it wasn't oversaturated, Like I didn't feel like, all right, we gotta see all the booty all night. Everything is out all the time, and it's all about selling your body or the other castmates bodies rather than
selling an actual story. Talk about what it's like to write above the standard for what we see in film right now, right because there is certain it's not what it was to your points, and it's a challenge, but it's one that I embraced because the films I love of those nineties black films, right, that loving basketball that you know, the Wood, you know those films, right. And the women in this film are beautiful. The men in this film are handsome, put together. You know, my beautiful
baby lights up the screen every time she shows up. Um, you know my niece, you know. And they had a different pressure because it's like, are they in the movie because that's my daughter and my niece. They were because they were They were incredible, and I really like I appreciated their professionalism. They did their homework, they had tutors out of school for weeks. But I talked to my daughter, I'm like, listen, you have to show that you're not
here because your name is Kevin Calor. And what she did and I'm super biased, of course, but this is the feedback. Also, no one else would have done that role the way she didn't. And so so yet to your point about just staying above the phrase these scripts, I've been pitching my films and my scripts across the industry for fifteen years. They say no, or they give me notes that I can't live with right because they want to oversex us, they want to over violence us,
they want to over curse word us. And you know, I, you know, we all who we are, right, We speak, how we speak, we are how we act, and I love that. I'm not apologizing for that ever. But there are so many different layers of who we are black people, and we've got enough of the other stuff right, and so we can make my whole life again. I'm from hollow, from humphy, dirty fat. I have been cool my whole
life without being anything but who I am. And it's too many young people who don't get to be who they are because media and imagery doesn't show different types of cool, right, And so the films I write I will always show different types of cool, different types of beautiful, different types other than what's out there. And it's not a force because it's this is really life, right, This is a real family that went on a vacation for a wedding and ship went crazy, right, that's you know.
And what's more forced is the oversexualization of us, like you know, and for me as an actress, it was so refreshing to get a character that wasn't hyper sexualized, especially just as a black woman in the society that
we live in. I feel like people want and expect us to lead with our sexuality first, is if that's the best thing we have to offer, and I think we owe more to the kids than that, you know, Like the reason why they don't know who they are is because during their formative years, that is what they're seeing, that is the standard. So they think, maybe that's what I should be doing if I want to get ahead, because all the women I see who are getting ahead
are using themselves in their body in that way. So I think it's really important to have that kind of representation that isn't about that and isn't leading with your body, because we have so much more to offer than that. Everybody should. Yes, love I love the fact that this movie was based more on romance in affection. It was that's what black RV. That we exactly, It's an R and B movie and we need him. We need RV. Don't say I love the energy, you know it made you.
It brought you back to that nineties nostalgia and and that was for me, that was one of the best times of black movies. You know what I'm saying even though we got a lot of different things, and I'm not knocking none of it, but those movies are those are the classics, and they don't go away. And ever this movie has the potential to go into that, you know, into that realm. So you know, I want to congratulate you,
because that's the goal, Like I want to be. I want where you can on a weekend and snow and and you're watching Loving Basketball and then Aurora, right like you want like where it just flows. You're watching Brown Sugar and Aurora, you know, and it's like, oh, these are the movies were watching with my girls, with my you know, couples, retreat whatever. Like I want to fit in that space. That's my ambition is to be that
storyteller that that fits in that space. And that's again, I got a lot of films that we're gonna keep fighting and make them this way, you know, and not
let you know the others, you know, shift that. Let's talk about that fighting, right because this industry is, as you said, it's weird, it's nasty, it's hard to break into um and you all, I mean you like, I know you you know, this is not the first time that I'm seeing you on screen like in fact, when you when your character appears, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be good. Right to bias the same thing, Oh you know what I mean? There was several characters that
I know, so you didn't have. There wasn't a B minus film. This is a list here. These are people who are real actresses and real actors, and I guess that helps. But even with that, if you don't provide the violence that whatever it is, you still can get shut down right in the industry. So how difficult is it to make the money necessary to keep this type of writing and this type of experience on or to get it to the mainstream level? Put it that way. Um, I always use the analogy is it's so fud or
it's fast food. Right, I'm making so for it's harder. You got seasoned chicken, You got clean the chicken, right, y'all, Let y'all let the grease get hot, right, like you could pop the nuggets in the microwave. Everybody eat, but you're not fulfilled, right, And so yes, it's it's absolutely a fight, right because the people who make decisions don't
trust our intelligence as a culture, as an audience. They say, this is what your people want to see, and I say, you've got some nerves telling me what my people want to see. I've lived like I didn't come up in Hollywood. I live with this art camps like I'm in and among. I still coach girls, I'm among the audience, right, I know what we're craving for. Right, And so I again, Joachima, you said these are not beatless anything. You know, these
are star actors and actresses that just need to screen. Right. But they sit across that desk and they tell you, oh, you don't have I got. I'm not gonna shout them out because we might need to do business with them. But I got a really big distributor. We they liked the movie. They said, they wrote a glowing rejection letter. Amazing storytelling, cinematography is brilliant, the acting was great. But
these names don't meet our criteria for distribution. That's direct to my face on on paper, right, with the big letter head at the top from one of the big boys, right,
And this is what they do. And so I take that and I'm like, because I'm defying, I'm like, no, I'm making it with the right people, right, because we can keep recycling this fifty something or old woman to play this twenty is something you old bride and smack a bunch of makeup on her and and and get that deal right, because they trust that that person has an audience. But how much will you compromise in order to to like, obviously all of us have to compromise. Um,
So that's that's my fight. My wife's an accountant, that's our fight because she's like, uh, you know what we're doing. But but I trust the process, I really do. I trust our audience. And that's really what it comes down to write the same way we tweet and post and and and argue. There are topics in this film to discuss. Right. If that discussion hits social media and people talk about it and then people engage, then it shows that this film has an audience these I don't think it's a bias.
I think they care about money. The people that we need to support us on the the side of the desk, right, who are not always white people. Right. I've got some of the worst critiques from our people in terms of what they try to make me make to a certain networks. I don't even entertain I don't want to deal in certain places. Again, I'm not here to start no fights.
I'm not gonna say no names. But there are networks where I'm like, I'm good because they're not for the culture, right, and and we don't have to get on the soapbox and pound our chest to be for the culture. We just gotta be respectful to it. And so yes, I will I do compromise in as long as I could look at myself in the mirror, right, like I'm not gonna embarrass us ever, Like y'all y'all could trust that, like if my trajectory and what what I'm building and
what I'm doing. We're shooting another movie in five weeks, right, another one in the summer, like I'm not gonna stop, and ultimately people will start to trust my voice and then the audience will build once that happens. Y'all gotta worry about me, like, I'm never gonna embarrass us, always gonna make sure we're good, right, And it's just about earning that. That's what I think. That's I think you sound a lot like us in the work that we do. You know, we we fight against the social norms, We
fight against the status quo. They told us we can't do it this way, and why don't y'all say it this way? Even with our podcasts, we deal with things and of that age understand you know what I'm saying. We understand that we're fighting an uphill battle. But we know when we get what we got, we're good and the people who would support us is good. What you we We're not gonna like you said, We're not gonna
let your dad, We're not co embarrass you. We're gonna always stay in firm in our convictions because we know what it's like to be where we from. We know what we want, we know what we need, we know what our people want from us, so we're not willing to compromise that to be to fit into certain rooms, you know. And it's it's it's like you said, it's
it's so food is a slow process. But every time we get another level, it's more because we know we didn't compromise, especially our moss and our values, what we definitely still on. So I appreciate you. I floored y'all, and we know this movie is gonna do great. You guys have you have what it takes, you know, I just want to. I want you to tell we've seen the movie. I want you the people watching, each of y'all tell them why should they go see the movie? Right?
I say that this is a movie that will get you thinking. This is a movie that will get you talking, no matter who you watch it with. You can watch it alone. You can watch it with your boot cuddled up. You can watch it with your girls, and there's a conversation to be had that will be mentally stimulating and we'll be entertaining and we'll you know, get the blood flowing. So you will thoroughly enjoy this film. See it, yes, and you can see it anywhere. Again, we're in dirty cities.
We know it's it's cold on most of the country, so you don't have to go outside. You can watch it at home. Amazon is an easy one, but it's on all digital platforms. Whatever your cable says them is that you people still got that, you know, go to your pay per view. You can just search a Rural Love Story and it's available, and you should watch it because it's told in your voice. Is for us, um,
it's by us. It's unapologetically black, UM, but it's not black for black sake at no point in this movie or we're trying to prove our blackness right, which with language and just certain That's what I also hate when it's I can't be anything else right, Like my daughter can't. She's in private school and she's living in a different life, but she's still not even removed enough to be anything else right, And so we don't have to force it um.
And I think this is a movie aside from just who Joachima said, this is a multigenerational cast and a multigenerational story, right. There's something for the teenagers and the young kids that can gravitate towards those characters, there's something for the elders who can gravitate towards the parents, and
then for everybody else in between. So yeah, I'm super super proud, like you said, when you when you get something like this and you're able to put it on the screen despite whatever hurdles you had to go through. It feels so much better that I never have to sit watching this and say, man, I wish I wouldn't have listened to some and something right wherever happens with it. I love you so how when you when you finish
a movie. How does it feel like for me when I'm watching a series or something and it's over, I'm just like life is over, Like, you know, like where's life now? I gotta find new life. So, like, what happens to you at the end of a filming process, especially with something like this. Are you just tired and you're like that's it? Or do you have a feeling like a little hole for the people and the experience.
You know, it varies per project, but I will say that, you know, like Noel said, he has other movies coming out, so we all knew we were going to see each other again in that will be working on future projects together. But of course this a little bitter sweet, right because you're like, wow, this was amazing, Like Puerto Rico, this experience just like the you know, when you work with your own people, there's so much it doesn't even have
to be said or explained. There's just this layer of support under you and uh, just having to go into your next project knowing that you probably won't have that. You're gonna have to get used to going back to being like, you know, your own advocate for every single thing. Um, but you can you kind of just brace yourself and you say, well, I'm gonna look forward to the next time I can get back to these people, the next time I get back to a project that has this
type of love involved in it. So we need more, right, Like, I'm not here to be the one, you know, I want to. I want ten directors to come out of our camp, right, male female, black breath right where those sets look and feel like that? Right? Know how crazy we were going to making sure we have the right hair and makeup in Puerto Rico. That's the thing, Like, I wasn't going to play with these women, know. So I I have a friend who is a superstar um
that we won't name. Today, when I was dealing with some entertainment industry stuff, I was like, you know, going to a meeting to make a statement about something they weren't doing. Right, she calls me up and it's like, hey, I need you to put this on your list of things hair and makeup. And I'm thinking to myself, this is a superstar. When I say supert, I'm talking about like big, big, big, big, Right, Why don't you have black people doing your hair and makeup? What are you
talking about? You? Like, I'm thinking she's walking in the door with everybody with her hair makeup. No, she said, it is basically white and it's happened to me. But by the way, there are a few magazine articles I think maybe I don't know if it's vanity, but it's one of them that is like a big magazine that I'm in during the Women's March, and I look terrible. Yes, And when you feel like you look terrible, you don't present yourself the same. You got low self esteem, terrible.
So I started paying because during the Women's March, we were doing a major press all the time. If you see the cover of Glamor magazine that I'm on, that is my own makeup artist that I had to bring. And by the way, they don't even want you to have that person there. They tried to put her through all types of hoops and things. She had to have the right insurance. She had. She couldn't be on the thing without a million dollars worth of insurance. It was
so much drama. But why would a white woman do my Why I don't even understand what we're I think that sometimes they are genuinely convinced that they can do your hair. What do you mean I can't do your hair. I brought some oil sheet, right, I have an edge comb. I can do your hair. Yes, Google, I watched one YouTube video and I know what I'm doing. How dare you? How dare you? And that is the energy they give you, And sometimes it feels like a microaggression, but sometimes it's
just aggressive. There's no micro about it. They come for you when you speak up for yourself and say I feel uncomfortable. I need someone who knows how to do my hair. You see how these other women can come in with wet hair and you can do their hair from start to finish. I had to stay up till one o'clock in the morning doing my own hair and then wake up early to make sure it looks good before I even get here, because if I don't, I
will look crazy. Wow, Yo, the wet like you could show up here and get a blowout and look famulous. You're set. I gotta do a thing. Yes, I have to come done, and then try to argue with you so you don't touch you to mess it up exactly, want to change it. So you're spending money. You're spending money outside of the budget for what's supposed to be right, you're spending money trying to make your self look presentable, because then if you don't look presentable, then you're not acceptable.
And then it's it's like you, we're constantly running through and around and it's not us when it's not. And that's that's why I like, we can make a list a mile long of why we need more our own right. And there are things that go on. You know, you don't even think about that, right, And I would not have thought about that had I not had a daughter now, right, Like I have a teenage daughter, right, so she has friends, right, that's my group with them. I'm the magic school bus.
I'm like, I'm with them, So they're plight. Is my plight? Right? And so and again I have a wife, a black wife, right, and so my black sisters. So when I'm going into a film and I'm thinking about the script and I'm thinking about this, at some point, is that light bulb like who the right? Who go through the hare in Puerto Rica? And so I'm like, oh, do I have to fly out hair and makeup because I have trusted hair and makeup hair for all of my production, which
is predominantly black. It's crazy. It's crazy, But there are people. I give them a lot of credit. A lot of them came up with me. A lot of them I gave their first opportunity to put anything on screen. So when I don't have the budget, they still show up because they know when I have it, I'm not taking it. I'm paying you, right, And so yeah, just all of the different things that I'm sure you guys. Again, that's why this wasn't honor because you getting your hair and
makeup done to go and do press. It's like you're supposed to be fighting. No, no, I still have to. I'm a professional. This is going to carry like. It's just the craziness that that you got to endure terrible. I'm I'm gonna I'm actually gonna show you I looked. It's like I have a hat on my head, but it's actual hair. But it's like, you know, I feel that in myself, you know, but ain't gonna They don't care how it happens. They forgetting the message. I forgot
the message. Whether you want to or not, you're representing so many other women. You didn't ask for that. Maybe that's not what you want some days, but when you're representing a whole movement and a whole group of people, and then you feel terrible and you feel like you look terrible. That's that's an awful situation. It is. I appreciate us being able to have this part of the conversation because I feel like I had a therapy session.
And definitely, and as I should know, as I should, she serious, and she and she notices it, like in different other things, she sees other blackfooms. No, they're not doing this right. People need to be focused on this, but I didn't see that in this film. Yeah, it's a problem. When I, like I said, when I got this call to add to my list of demands that I was making in this meeting that I needed to talk about hair and makeup, I thought that was not
a thing at her level. So this is a systemic problem. And you know, like you said, it's just one of the many reasons why we need more of us being in the director's seat, having the budget, having the ability to bring things to life. And you said you are writer and director, but then I just heard you say that you were managing where people were sleeping. So you are, you're the writer, the director, the manager, everything, but that's
what we have to do. That's what that's right. So we don't, right, And that's like every time I do a project, I build more team, right, Like, so now I have more people that are good, that are talented that I can trust, right, because one thing I couldn't do is leave anything to chance that we were putting on the screen right, right, So I had to have my hand in every aspect of it, almost maniacally because there there are people, our people and other people who
are looking to say, see, it's not that good, right, see look at this right, And so I've been getting compliments. Some of them are offensive, like it's so well made, the production looks clean, like almost twenty I've made mistakes, I've made bad stuff that people will never see. I've made okay stuff that have come out and people liked it, and I look at it like right, And so now I'm getting to a point where I'm finding it like I know how to do this, and so yeah, it's good.
It's gonna be more and and I'm just gonna empower more of us and keep bringing us along. Um from again. My daughter's producing the next movie. She's not in it. She wants to be behind the scenes. She wants to, you know, and so she's a producer and she's killing me because she's like, she saw things that were challenges that she has now found solutions for. So she's telling me this is we're not going to do this like this next time. UM, something like absolutely, yeah, amazing, Aurora.
I look forward to the future, you know, to the movies. I'm gonna be Yeah. I really appreciate the film. I appreciate the energy that you guys have, the karateie. Just watching the film, you can tell that there's love, real, real synergy and love this. So go out and watch the world and talk about it. Tell us who you hate, tell us who you like. I love the dimensions of love. That's what it is. Because a lot of people won't understand certain dimensions of love. Do you look at him
and be like, what do you look at him? You got a crazy system. You got it, the sister thing, protective love. Make sure you go out and support Aurora. No, yes, Noel Callaway and Joachim Mahalis listen. Aurora is the thing to go and see. To everybody who's watching, you go see it just because we said, so that's what you do. Because that's that's it. That's it. And to our brother Aran, guests and as a producer on this project, thanks for including that. Don't do that, don't do that. We love.
Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for this safe space. Thank you for the conversation. This has been amazing, awesome. Thank you all so much for joining Street Politicians, amazing guests man, new friends of the family, new friends of the family. You crazy. I didn't bring it up during an interview because I didn't want to. But Noel used to live in my building in the
bro Really, what you mean you didn't want to? I mean I was, but I mean, you know, I don't want to put them on, so I didn't want it to be too much because well, I guess now if you would have said that, uh, I'm gonna call her Giselle now that Woachima lived in your building, I can understand you being like, I don't want to know. It wasn't even that we got caught up in the interview and we was asking such questions about the movie that I didn't bring up that, but you used to live
in my field, dope, do you know? And Wachima's energy like she's amazing. She's gonna be like, you know, she's got um the potential of you know, the Angela Bassetts of the world. Like she's gonna she has just has to keep going, keep going. She's gonna be I like her. I love both of them. I love the movie or we'll go see it. So that brings me to my I don't get it. And it goes back to what
we already spoke about. We spoke about Tyree Nichols, and there was somebody else who spoke about Tyree Nichols this week, and I think it was probably the dumbest comment that I probably heard about anything, and it was Jason Whitlow and his comments that the reason this happened to Tyree Nichols and the reason why these officers did this to him was based on single parent homes, black women raising
their sons being sing well. I think he also said something about which I'm assuming I never looked into it, but I'm assuming what he's also saying is that the woman the chief of police, Chief David that Oh no, no no, no, that's yes. He's saying that she and she is pretty much the mother of the police department, so she can't raise like he said, so many multidimensional trash ship that it was. It was one of the most thoughtless he
thought about it. No, you couldn't have thought of when you couldn't think that it makes sense during the time that a mother had lost her child right to have a make a statement like that. He thought a black woman lost her child at the hands of the police, and you thought blaming a black black woman for what happened to this black man made sense. But you couldn't. There's no there's no way that you I just don't. I don't get how you thought that makes sense. I can't.
I can't see the logic that a man is said. Yeah, man, you know, if it wasn't for single mother families, you know, this black man is silla be lives. You know, if it wasn't the woman who was running the police department, if she wasn't a single woman, then it would be he'd still be a lot. I don't understand. And the woman who lost her child was a black woman, and you thought that made sense to say? What what I'm I guess. I just I feel like he accomplished exactly
what he wanted. What he got. He captured the attention, the social media following the outrage and uh conversations that you know, he's a hashtag as far as he's concerned, because people are out here like, I can't believe that he said it, and that makes them talk about him. People like that trolls. They don't care how they get attention. They just want attention. And he did think about it. He sat and and crafted a very intentional he craft.
He sat and crafted a very intentional statement that is to further the mission of the Fox News brand and what it is that they represent. That's where he said it. So he's on a plant. He's on a network that provides a platform to racist to people who want to be white supremacist, to white supremacist theory, to people who wish that they can, um, you know, create as far as I'm CanCERN um just you know, to create a
very prominent oppressed society. Like these are people who their everyday thought process is how to dehumanize the entire black race as much as possible, even using some of our own, so that they can create their new world order. I mean, this is very intentional. And when you say you don't believe it makes sense with it, it doesn't make sense. And I understand what you're saying. It's just like shi it happens that we see, but it doesn't make sense.
We we know that it happens, but it still doesn't go along with regular logics. So what he does is further white supremacy, just like these he's he's contribute to the same exact you know, the same exact narrative, the same exact objective that the people in the system that created these officers is and he doesn't even realize and he rather and it probably does realize that well, sometimes you know what it is. I really don't think they realize.
I think a lot of people, especially black people, who feed into white supremacy, have been simpen te for so long that they don't even realize. They think that they're saying, you know, black people need this man. You don't need no single parent. That's what it is. And those things and the black woman is the problem, and all of these issues that feeds white supremacy to continue. It's narrative, and they've brought into it because they've been accepted into
these spaces. A lot of them. There's a lot of these black faced individuals that I see that walk into these white spaces and they utilize this verbiage in this dialogue and these narratives, and they be they're celebrated. The white people say, that's what we're trying to tell you. But but they think they are because them. And then just like the black men, they realized how quick they
lost their jobs, how quick they got charged. And then now you know, we've just seen that the other officer, but it didn't happen to us, the white But this is what I'm saying. So the reality is when brothers like that, the man with the black face, and they talked like that, and they feed this false narrative. You know, it's it's people who committed crimes who come from to family, who come from they had a father, had they lived with the grandmother, the father, the mother, and they still
committed crimes. They committed even more so to continue to create this narrative. You know a lot of these people are successful. You look at you know a lot of people committed They went to college, they did all the things that you said you're supposed to do, so you know, at some point they made decisions that they wanted to be on the side of the oppressor. You know, they figured they wanted this power that comes with it they got. They brought into a system, you know, And that's what
we say about the police system. The system is systemically racisms. The system is systemically racist. It makes you believe that you can harm black people and get away with it. You know, they tell you how to do it. That is justified, justified. If you listen to them say, oh, you resisting arrest, you're going from U. They know there's a playbook. You know, there's a playbook. And if we had and I say this all the time, we had not seen this video, they would have got away with
the playbooks. Just what we gotta do is say I felt for my life. He went from my weapon. And if we if they don't, if we didn't have this video tape that show clearly every hit, every kick, every stump, every the man being incapacitating and be if we had not seen that, if we had not seen all these things, we would still be sitting and said justice for this person. We might not say. Peopleuld be like, yo, why we
why we don't know what he did? We need to see what happened before and be black people, what y'all see? That's what y'all doing, man, see what happened before. People just need to comply. You know, you can't just not do with the police. Tell you need to get on your knees. You need to do all this ship man. So you know, I just want to say to Jason Wolock, I can't say that. I just can't say that. I'm just not even sure why people are even talking about it.
Like to me, I feel like it's a waste of mind. And you know what, I just don't have room. There are people out here that they make space to ensure that, like there's a counter narrative, and I respect that. So they need to do that and we we support it, and but I just don't have it to know. I'm saying, people who counter who are countering what he said. You got d l hugely out there. You've got Man the
Seals out there. Of course, you have teslaent Figure. Oh, You've got people that are pushing back against what he said. And so I'm saying they make the space, and though they have crazy, busy lives and all of that, but they make the space from a media perspective to ensure that there is a counter narrative. And I support them doing that and where I can lend my thoughts and ideas so that they can help to develop you know, their full um statement and their full opinion or you know, yeah,
their full opinion about these issues. I want to do that. However, I don't have the space in my life to let Jason Whitlock like come into my dreams. I can't deal with it. I don't because you know me, I take the ship to my dream it. It'll be all night. I'll be up right and stuff, texting everybody. You know how I start. When I get into it. I want to talk to everybody that I'm close to to be like, did you hear is? Why do you say? I can't do it? So I just tell Jason Whitlock peace that
other words. It's other words, but we're not the words. No, you haven't. I'm trying. You know you are right. Go to the Franks stand. They're selling Franks by a couple of Francs. So as Jason Woodlock heads to the Franks Stan, We're gonna end this week's episode. Shout out to Noel Callaway.
Shout out to Kima Hollis, the writer and produced the Slash Management Slash Travel Agents slash everything for this great film and of course the star and she is definitely a star that brings us to the end of another episode. Back in the studio today. Yeah, that's right. For the Aurora Cast, we had to sit down personally and do that interview. So number one podcast in the world. Politicians, you know how we do it, number one in a
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