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Fighting Inflation and Fearing Recession

Jul 20, 20221 hr 23 min
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This week Tamika and Mysonne first speak on recent reports in the news, such as a anesthetist violating a patient during surgery, and their friend Styles P confronting cops for manhandling a woman. Also they had Star Melancon a personal finance strategist, and founder of "She Building Her" stop by to help them understand our financial state in our economy right now and what people can do to sustain financial stability.  Are we in a recession or not? Lets Discuss. 

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in my life. He's is he Puerto Rican? Is Puerto Rican. He is a typical hilarious Puerto Rican guy from the Bronx who says anything he wants to say and just keeps me laughing all the time. I love Puerto Rican man from the Bronx. Yes, it's it's a it's an authenticity just from the Bronx and with the Puerto Ricans for the Bronze just have a whole different statistic. That's that's my brother when the purest hard working brothers. And it was to shout out to be at slogo whatever

whatever Y'll be saying, y'all make up these words. So I'm dragging today. I'm tired so much and you haven't even been traveling as much as I have. This time I went to the a k A Boulet, which, by the way, I got my painting drink pinking drink, thinking right, don't get them started. They love to say we parted, Oh you're with Boulet, you with the booge's and whatever. And you know what, the atk ain't gonna lie. It's

some boogie women up and there. We are certainly the pretty girls, and it is some boogie women in the a case, But there's a lot of women within the sorority that the very supportive of our work and they do their own work. And you know, I was thinking that every you know, we're so unfortunately like in this we're in this situation where most of us want to

see people really working on like the smoking gun issues. Right, so somebody's getting shot and killed and this happened, and that happened, and you want to see folks really working on those things because that's like at the heart of you know, what is harming our community and and it's and it's very visible and it's very painful, it's traumatic, and those things are important and certainly we work on that,

you know, every day. But there's also a need to keep our kids going to college if they want to go to college, right. There's also a need to make sure people have good housing, clean food, people you know, get medical their medical needs met, their mental health met,

that their voting rights are protected. And so I'm trying to as I'm getting older, understand that there's so many different roles that have to be played that it doesn't mean that just because an entity is not like marching with us, you know, and and out there, you know whatever out there and and by the way, and by the way, many a k AI's are many deltas, are many zatas are I mean, we think about Natasha Williams, a council you know, she's our councilwoman now and queens,

that's our little sister. She's a delta. She's in the street, you know, she's always out there engaged in um, you know, fighting for justice. So I think people have the wrong impression, and some of it is because of the sororities and fraternities and some of the positions they take or don't

take so some of it is certainly their fault. However, when I'm really now that I'm inside and I'm getting to meet more people, I'm actually learning like, oh wait a minute, you're you know, you're a K I didn't even know that, and it would be somebody like, for instance, attorney Lanita Baker. This is a woman who was the lawyer for Brianna Taylor's family. She also was in the street with us when we lived in in Louisville. She she was our lawyer, our legal counsel, but she also

was a protester. She's an activist. She is a a lawyer who works on social justice cases. She's in a k A. So I think we have to give people, um, you know, more and to go back to the original point, which is what I was thinking about while I was on the plane leaving the a k A convention, that you know, there's so many when you look at all the work that's being done within the sorority, there's so

much happening that also helps our community. And it's something fortunate because we are so so so traumatized by the brutality that we don't realize all the time that some of what keeps us going. It's our things that people are involved in that you may never hear about, you know what I'm saying. So anyway, that was just my experience. Well it sounds like a good experience, you know. I just think that everybody has a purpose, everybody has a role,

you know, and we all do different things. And I don't expect you know, everybody to do what I do, you know, being outside, being on the front line, you know, being visible, being vocal, you know, standing up against certain things publicly. It's not everybody's position, you know, And and we can't expect that. And I think, I think people's

expectations are just are not realistic all the time. So I think, you know, shout out to all of you know, fraternities and sororities who do what they do and different individuals who play different roles. Some spport the movement publicly, some supported from behind the scenes, some supported financially, and some just do their own thing. Everybody and some don't do ship exactly know what I'm saying. We can't, we can't,

you know what I mean. Like I wish I think that the fact that the a k As brought me in, which is kind of yes, there are, like you know, uh, there are other civil rights leaders that are part of sororities and fraternities and all of that. So we're not saying that it's unheard of, but you know, with us, we often looked at as like we're way too radical, we you know whatever. And the fact that they brought me in, I think that's my role, right, Like I'm not supposed to be then just just blend in with

everybody else and be quiet. But I have to bring things like Brittany Grinder and you know, a Jalen Walk of Brianna Taylor Tunisia Chappelle to the attention of the sorority so that they can find a way to take a position and get more involved, even if it is just raising money for bail funds and to give money to people on the ground who are doing grassroots work.

So that's that's the role that is and and it is and it is incumbent upon me to find other like minded individuals within the sorority and get them with me on the same page about helping to move the sorority more into how they can be uh, you know, a backbone if you will, for people who are out there on the ground. So that's that's that's what I sort of took away from. You know, as I was leaving, I was thinking, Wow, this is an incredible resource. We

have thirty six thousand members. Twelve thousand of them were at the Boulet, which is a conference for people who might not know what the Bulay is. Shoot. We to be able to if we get a dollar from each one of those organizations every month, I mean each one of those individuals every month, that's a that can help fund some of the work that's going on out here.

Definitely can so hint. But um, you know I was while I was on the plane, I had I don't know, you know, I had so many plane rides um this time. And I will say, because you know, we beat up on the airlines when they're messing up, so we have to say that Delta us they slowly but surely trying to get it together. Because I took six flights in the last five days or four or four or four or five days, I can't even remember, and not one

was delayed or nor was it. Um it wasn't delayed or canceled, and my luggage made it on each connection. So it all went well, So that means that something is happening where they're trying to get better. They sent out an email from Delta saying that they apologize to all their customers because they know that their ship has been all over the place. But I was sitting there thinking, and I should know this, but who the hell controls the airlines? Like? Who isn't? Because guess what the plane

tickets though? Whall like the price of plane tickets. Those six flights, one of them was paid for by another entity, but every other flight either we had to pay for it as an organization or I paid for it personally. I know that it was in excess of five thousand dollars and I didn't even pay for I think one flight I paid for first class. All the rest of them I paid for like comfort. And then of course, you know got an upgrade because of uh out your

and mind. We both have diamond status, yo, bro, Like that's a lot of mine, and I'm trying to figure out who's in charge. Thirty thousand bags All right, We're in London, somewhere where people couldn't get their luggage. Our friend Jennifer Williams ten days she couldn't get her luggage. Who is in charge? Like, who is the boss of the airport work the airline? The boss is the boss man, and it's making the man behind the scenes is making the money man. So they just make the decisions. That's it.

He just decided. You never see him, you ever see I think it's I'm gonna get you suthing' is a is a movie where you know, they're talking about the man and they're all trying to see the man. He's just a white dude. And at the end, it's just a regular white dude and he just controlling everything. And back in the days is to always say the man, the man is in control, is the man. That's who's controlling the airports. The man, the man got grip on the airlines. Buddy, I don't understand it. He can he

get a pretty penny. Well, they say it's gas prices, but yo, not like yo to go from New York to Kentucky the price of a ticket being a thousand dollars in coach? What the hell? That's that's that's like, what are we talking about? And in our situation, this is why when people trying to say, oh, why are we uh, you know, raising money, you got your cash app and you buy a which we never did talk about that, you know, when people were questioning you about

the cash app and the buyer. But oh, you know, uh, you know, y'all out here trying to get money for people, for people in our organs. And that's just for mind you. We still have other members of our team, Jewels, Stephen Green, different individuals that also need to be in certain places with us for certain reasons. But if you just start with us four, that's four thousand dollars coach automatically, hotel, get there. Depending on the whatever's going on, it might

have to be security and a driver. But in some situations we either rent a car or we uber but but a lot of times we can't do that just because of the nature of what it is that we're dealing with. How do people think that ten thousand dollars that's food everything? How do you get paid? I don't know, I don't know anything, you know, osmosis. They think that, you know, falls out the sky, you know, and the

work we do is just irrelevant. It's not worth it anything, you know, I don't I stopped trying to figure out what people think because the reality is when you're not involved in this work and you know this is not your purpose or your passion, your your vision and your view of it really doesn't matter, right because the families that we help that call us and need us to be there and be on call and be at these meetings and be at rallies and press conferences and just

just holding their hand period. You know what I'm saying. They don't. They're grateful. You know that they're they're very much grateful for us in the in the work that we put in, you know, and how we support them and uplift them and make sure that their family members situations don't go unnoticed. So whatever that, whatever that comes with, you know, the negativity of people who don't value us or don't see what it is would come That's that's

part of That's what it is man. They where I say, they crucified Jesus Christ Man, that's it or what makes it? So we're near Jesus so you know what they're gonna do that, So I'm all for it. So no stories. Um. One that was super disturbing was the Brazilian doctor. They don't kick you off the Instagram, damn there all the way yeah, Instagram, Ye, I gotta talk to me about

this because I don't understand. I've seen the video. You showed me the video two days ago, and I didn't post it up because I'm like, all right, But then there was an edited version that was a deal usual proc because I showed you the raw, uncut, uncutting footage, somebody sent it to me and then when I see earthquake posted, the deal is on every blog site in the world, and they took it off my page and suspended my lives, you know, and so I don't know

what it is for them to check what's going on. Yeah, something that's going on. It's not making sense because immediately because what happened is I put it up twice. The first time I thought it didn't post because it's on the page and there wasn't no comments for like thirty minutes. So I'm looking like this doesn't make sense. So I took it down and then reposted it, and then I want my thing and it was like, oh this you know, um New Nature sexual content and it's like there's no

sexual content. You you you you infer based on the title what's going on? You could see him moving around, but you don't see any woman. You don't see any genitalia, you don't see anything, so you know, I don't know what. But then you said the man should be castrated. But I said, in situations like this, I said, for a frustration any man, my thing is this man when you willingly? But do we even tell people what happened with the Brazilian the Resilian doctor who was performing um Now he

wasn't he was in then he was on the medical team. Oh, he was on the medical team for a woman who was beginning a C section. She was under anesthesia, and I think he was the anesthe geologist. Yeah he was, Yeah, he was. He was. That's his job, his job because when people people are like, why is he on this side of the sheet, he was there because he's supposed to be monitoring the patient and making sure she doesn't wake up in the middle of i UM a C section.

So what they had they said that prior there were other victims that have been getting too much anesthesia, and so they started to pay attention because they wanted to see what was going on. And this is how they called him on camera, actually putting his penis inside the mouth of the woman while she was, you know, under and he was doing all types of things with her, and I think he actually even ejaculated and wiped her mouth off and all this. It was, you know, pretty disgusting.

So I said to myself, any man who would do some ship like that, I support castration, Like I really, I don't think you deserve a penis at that point certain ship that a man do, especially sexual crimes of that nature, and that that discussing that you violated women and that regard, then you you lose the privilege of your penis. Oh my god. That I mean. I'm not saying I don't disagree, but that's you. It's a different country that you have to live in where that would

be the answer. I think. I think if that was the as, I think people would stop. I think I think people would stop, forcibly in doing things like that rape of woman if they knew that at the end of it, it would whoa that deter you from certain things, right, the rape and women and children. Because in certain countries, right they give you the the medicine that stops your you from even having the urge to have sex. So

it's the same thing. Well, let me just tell you this real quick in New York and across the country has happened to people a number of times. Andrew Yane he his wife said that a doctor m had done the same thing to her. She felt like when she woke up from UM, I think O B G y N appointment that you know, a visit, that she knew that she that that um, she knew basically that the doctor has sex with her. Right he numbed her some kind of way where she was laying there, couldn't do anything,

couldn't move, but she felt it. Side thence the district attorney in New York City, the most recent he's former now that he was just a district attorney. This is the same guy that after it came out that the prosecutor for the Central Park five that she had been involved in you know, in in in basically uh what

you call a prosecutorial prosecutorial misconduct. And we said that he needed to go back and open the books and look through all of her cases or many of her cases to see whether there were other people like the Central Park five who were in prison for and and they had and their and their cases had been tampered with based upon her being um A criminal, a damned crook. As the prosecutor right, he didn't want to do that. He also did not want to investigate and charge the

the doctor who Andrew Yang's wife accused. Didn't take long before all of these women aim forward to say that the same doctor did it to them. And then, of course at that point he had no choice but to prosecute. But he didn't believe Andrew Yane's wife. After after we learn this, women from all over the country started coming forward to say that the same thing is happening to them. So can you imagine And of course this woman, she's a darker skinned woman in Brazil, so looks like a

you know, a black Brazilian woman. Imagine what's happening to black women. We already are not being properly treated when we go to medical facilities. We're not getting things that we need. We don't get the proper pain medicine. Imagine if it's happening to all women, Imagine what's happening to black women when they go to the doctor, or you have to be under anesthesia and there's no one from your family or anyone in there to watch what's going on.

It's probably so out of control that we would be, like, be devastated if we knew the stats. Yeah, it probably is. Man, It's it's disgusting, man, just hearing it, thinking it, trying to figure out the mind state that comes with some bullshit like that. Man, I'm praying for women. Um, you know, I'm hoping they catch all these sick individuals and you know, and then punishing rooms. Yeah, at some point because this

is too much. It's you know, when you when you commit and permit them to put you on the anesthesia, like you pretty much putting your life into somebody's hands. So what's to protect you? Right? Who's to be able to say what happens to you while you're under innstegia.

So I think that's something that people should look into after when you under anesthesia, there should be cameras in the rooms where you're under innsthegia to make sure that the doctors and whoever are doing what they're supposed to do. You know, that's that's something that really needs to come out of this situation as like a policy, you know, for real. Um okay, so styles P speaking of cameras

and that's your guy, Yeah, shut up. Yeah, I think you know I spoke to his wife and she's like, she didn't say much, but just like because that's scary when you see your husband and the police having an encounter. And we know from watching the video the officer just wished the camera wasn't there because he was holding his gun. He wanted to he wanted to do something. He's smirking, he wanted to do something. Tell people exactly what happened. Does anybody know what what was what the woman was

being arrested. Well, I I've seen I've actually seen the full footage, right, and what happened was the young lady was doing door dash and she was on a vehicle. I don't know if she had the proper license for the vehicle. She had the registration for the vehicle, so they pulled the police walked up and seeing the vehicle and did her need another Yeah, that's not vehicle. It's like a little mopad or something like that. I don't

know exactly what it is. So um so her and another young lady came outside and the officer asked for her license, and I don't believe she actually had a license. So what happened was she was like she was trying to find a license office. It was like, well, she's like what She's like, I'm just doing my job. I'm just giving a delivery, this and that and this and that. And she tried to take the bike and run on

the bike. It was like she grabbed the bike and tried to push the but like you you're not gonna run the phone on the bike. She could, Yeah, so she ran with the bike. They ran right behind. I said no, no, no, so she she throws the bike. Please don't take my bike. You're taking my bike. So what happened at that point the officer grabbed her to arrest her, and he was very forceful, and he after he already had her as two of them. He didn't have to throw the woman to the ground, like you

know what I'm saying. It was just it was very it was excessive wars and and and that's the Stylesie styles watched them chase her and watch him pick literally grab her my arm and just toss her to the ground. And he was saying to himself, like, you didn't have to do that, like you already had. It was no need for you to throw no woman to the ground

like that, you know. And and that's where the altercation come and and it's it's it's you know, there are people gonna say, oh, she should have never ran, and that wasn't excessive for us. And I understand what you're saying, but the reality to me is like the police and the community have to we have to live in unison, right, we have to be the police has to have the

respect of the community. Right. So when you're doing things that are excessive for us, when you don't have to give you know, throw a woman to the ground, when you can grab a women's two of you officers and you can literally grab her and just put cups on us without throwing to the ground, Like why why isn't that something that is taught. Why isn't that something that

you see to yourself to say, you know what? All right, understand, this woman is scared, she's you know, she didn't want to lose a vehicle, she didn't try to harm or she didn't she's not of a threat to us. Why do we need to throw her on her face to the ground and put handcuffs? All right? So you know, there are people on both sides and say, oh, you know, she should have never ran, and this and that and and for me, you know, I understand that you know,

she she violated the law, arrested. I just think that we have to we have the way that we police our communities, you know, is going to determine the respect that the officers get, you know. And then what happens in those situations is us as men and styles did what I would have did, you know, I would have looked and said, yo, why would you throw that woman to the ground like that was some real bit ship?

Like he said, you did some whole whole whole ship, like you threw a woman to the ground, and you already had that. You didn't have to do that, you know. And at that point, and we and we constantly see these things, you know, So at some point it is the officer's job to repair there were relationship between community and officer. It's not our job because we don't have you know, most individuals from the community, we're not trained in the escalation. We're not paid to do the escalation.

We're not paid to interact with other people. So you're dealing with common people who have no training, who are just dealing with emotions, who are angry. So, as the professional, the person who was being paid the person who was to protect and served. It is your job to create the relationship that makes it easier for you to do your job in your community, not harder. Yeah, well, I listen, here's my opinion, and it's very brief. Two things can be true. At the same time, she should not have ran.

She should probably should have had all the right licensing, which is a whole conversation because we can do a whole show about vendors who don't have licenses to sell things on the street, but they're trying not to sell drugs or hurt anybody. And by the way, just for anybody who wants to know, the vendors licenses in New York, basically the city has given them all out so in order to get new vendors licenses, which there's a bunch of people on a waiting list to get their license

to be a vendor, which is in essence entrepreneurship. People selling hats, socks, the things that they are purchasing wholesale and bringing it to the community and selling it, you know, all kinds of things. Oils should that boone be wanting right? Like things that you I've seen you say many times, Yo, I gotta. I'm we were about to travel to wherever. You're like, Yo, I need to get some T shirts. Let me run down the block, you know what I'm saying,

and go see whoever. Your people are poppy that you know, got white T shirts? Right. So, the vendors their licenses. The city has given them all out, and the only way to get new licenses is for there to be legislation pass so it has to go through whole city council process so that the licenses can get opened again to be able to distribute to vendors. So now you're talking about something that could take to a whole Another made a year or two to get finalized because it's

not a priority. And meanwhile they're throwing vendors. You see the women on the train selling their little whatever, the little oranges and whatever it is the waters. They throwing women in jail, knocking them down, taking their stuff, throwing it out. All kinds of crazy shit happens. So we could do a whole show just to talk about this woman not having the proper license to do door dash. I'm sure there were many issues in terms of how she could get that license and what it takes and

who's here to help her? Right were we already know? We can imagine. Nonetheless, you need to have a license, and if you do get stopped, you can't just go running from the police. So we agree with at nobody's gonna argue with that. But we can also say that the way in which police officers deal with black bodies is out of control because they do not I don't. You could send me some videos nobody ever does. Where do they take white women and take them and throw

them to the ground. Who's maybe out there? Oh, maybe it's because a lot of white women are not doing door dash, or maybe it's because many of them have their license. Now that's a question of equity. Why is that happening? So there's so many things baked in the pie here that need to be you know that we

need to break down. And that means that when you start being judgmental and say, well, she shouldn't have done this and she shouldn't have done that, you also got a question why the system even puts us in certain situations where ultimately you're gonna be in contact with police.

So you know, I think I think you are a hundred percent right that Style did the right thing to step in and that because what he did do, because remember there were two cops on him, so she was experiencing even more physical aggression with two officers, and what he did do was took the attention of one officer off of her. So that gave you know, gives a little bit of ease. And he told her lighten up, says, you know, don't tend to your body up so that they can get arrest you and do what you need

to do. But he got one officer to focus on him, and that officer now is no longer engaged in throwing this woman around. So it's a lot to be unpacked with that. But moving along, the supermarket in Buffalo has reopened UM and you know, I got a lot of I got a text message from a young man who we had on the show, Jamil Cruise, who who deals with a lot of people on Buffalo. You know, he's he's a well known UM leader in the Buffalo area, in that area, and he is you know, he basically said,

I don't even know how to feel about this. You know, we need the supermarket in that community because his office is two blocks away. We need a supermarket. But and it's been renovated. But the but the idea of it, like just going to the supermarket, it's got to be traumatizing for those people. It has to be when you when you think about, you know, the last image that we've seen inside of that supermarket, right, and then they are family members who that's the last image that they've

seen some of their family members alive. Right. You know, it's it's traumatizing. So you know, that community has a lot of just work to do and just getting over that. So to see that that can happen and then that business goes right back to business a few months later, you know, it's it. It says something, but they need

the super It says two things. It says that that community is in such dire needs that they can't even grieve properly, right, and then it also says that the bodies who are actually lost in that community, you know, the community because because that store or whatever that opportunity they can open, they can pretty much probably say, you know what, we're gonna build something the Crocer Street, you know, because we've seen lots out there that weren't being used.

We're gonna, you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna create something over here courts the street. But it also says that you know those bodies. I don't. I don't know if certain you know. Edifices and buildings like that in the past have been opened as quickly after a traumatic situation like this. The usually the schools they closed, like they closed your Valdi and other schools. It was all at the to the year anyway, But they've basically

closing down and some of them have been condemned. They're not opening them anymore. I think they probably should have torn the supermarket down, and like you said, they should have built somewhere else, because I think just going like I couldn't even walk to the front of the supermarket when I was there and we were filming and whatnot. I couldn't get my legs, just would not walk to where those people like you know, you couldn't You can't get exactly to where people were shot, but you could

get close enough, and I just couldn't do it. And I think the other part that's traumatizing is like I've been watching the news. Of course, we've watched the news every day. I've watched the news all night. I watched the news any all all the time. It's it's it's the main thing that's on my TV phone. If I'm on a plane, I'm watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. Right, I ain't seen nothing about these people, the families in Buffalo. It's like it's this didn't even happen. Don't hear nothing

about it. I was glad to see that the President did have the oldest person killed in Ms. Whitfield killed in Buffalo. He did have her, her son, Mr. Whitfield, speak at the signing of the the Safer Communities at and he and and Mr Whitfield talked about white supremacy. So that was a good thing. But I don't know, you know, that's supermarket. It might be hard for me to go there. It is. It's gonna be hard for

a lot of people to go there. So you know, my prayers go out to the community, to the families, you know, and hopefully you know there there's some level of you know, ease slowly and tryma gets dealt with and they're able to heal from it. And you know, that brings us to what our guests is about. Right, and when you look at all these things, this recession, right when we talk about the door dash situation. We talked about people trying to make some money and in

no situations, people frustrated. They all, you're trying to sell this. You talk about the reason why this. We need to get the supermarket back open. Right. People are dealing with so much, so many financial issues, Like is there really it's really a recession? You know, I'm going out and when you and when you go out, it's not even the same. More people ain't even going out. They're trying to save their little coin. Man. It's it's it's it's

a different it's different energy outside. Man. I've heard a lot of um um financial analysts friends of always talking about you need to brace yourself for this recession and and you and you actually see it. You look at like you said, you talk about airplane airplane ticket prices, we talk about gas prices, like everything is at the highest it's pretty much been in my lifetime. I haven't seen things just high. You know, there's a there's a meme on Instagram now where they said a twenty bills

a dollar building. So that brings us to our topic on inflation recession and how money is just hard to come by right now? Is it hard to combine with just not so good to spend. I don't know we're gonna find both. I think it's a vote. I think, you know, I think certain individuals have access right to to be able to do things and do During the pandemic, new ways of creating money came about and always dissipated.

You know, there are a lot of people who was making money different ways before that is no longer relevant now. So they're trying to complete whole markets disappear whole markets and ways and people making money disappeared and the money that they're making just completely dried up. So it's somebody going on out here. Okay, So let's bring our guests in to talk about this today. That's SHE I'm is

highly recommended. Um and uh, you know us, we'll run our mouths the whole time, but we are not the experts. So we have star Malone Song uh to come and join us. And you know, I love that name. I just love it, Malone Song. I need to know we're saying that all the time. The personal finance strategist and the founder of She Building Her, where they help women transition from making money to build and sustainable wealth. That's a really really important thing that we can make the money,

but we need to be wealthy. Uh and so thank you so much Starr for joining us today. Absolutely, I'm very excited to be here. There's so much to talk about. My song. Maybe you want to kick it off because I'm trying to figure out are we in a recession or not? Like they say we're going towards one, but it feels like we're in one now. So yeah, So that's what I'm saying, Like, what do what do you say about our current financial state of the world right now,

state of America? Like what do you say? Okay, So I take a non traditional I have a non traditional take on this subject. Okay, So I'm just put that out there now, um for me. For me, I feel there's a couple of things. So this is kind of

a loaded question. First of all, when it comes to recession, recessions can only be declared in hindsight, like in actuality, So they can't say like, oh, we're going into a recession, like the economy cannot know if we were experiencing a recession until we have come through the recession or have been in it for a particular amount of time. The other thing is I think a lot of people there's a lot of buzzwords going around, so people are kind

of really blurring the line between recession and inflation. So we are definitely feeling the effects of inflation, but I don't know that we're necessarily feeling the effects of a recession. Right now, what's the difference? Okay, that's a great question. So recession, um, So, first of inflation is the easiest. Inflation just literally hits your pockets. You feel it when you go on the grocery store, when you go to the gas tank, when you um try to you know,

rent a space. You feel it because that means that the interest rates have gone up. That means well, not that the interest rates have gone up, it means that the cost of goods and services are more. Right, and so UM, inflation is a natural thing. We've had this problem of consistent inflation since like the seventies, right in

the United States. We understand that it's always been a problem because the cost of goods and services are going up, yet everything else is remaining stagnant in terms of like salaries and things like that. Right, So inflation is not new. It is being um exasperated by everything else with the gas prices and all the things. So it just feels really heavy right now, but it's not new. We've been

experiencing it forever. That's that's inflation. Recession is when the economy domestically and globally look at a few different factors. They look at government spending, consumer spending, big business spending, and um net exports. Right, so like, are we selling as a country, are we selling more than we're buying? Right, exporting more than we're importing, and so all of those factors combined creates a recession. If you have a constant downturn for a couple of cycles or a couple of quarters,

they say, oh, we're in a recession. My non traditional take on that is that a we most marginalized people have been left out of the global and really the domestic wealth building conversation, and so we don't really fall into the categories of government spending, of export of you know, big business. When I say big business, I'm talking about these trillion dollar businesses. We don't really fall into these categories, and so recession has very little effect on us personally.

It's like one of the times in which we can act really just put our head down and be like, that's y'all business, because like, are y'all in recession? Or are we in a recession? Because you may not be in a recession personally, right, even though on a larger scale they're saying, oh, we're in a recession. But like you know, is eight percent of your wealth wrapped up in government contracts or exporting goods or services or even the stock market. Probably not to the normal person, So

you may not actually be experiencing a recession. But what but but but but doesn't it impact jobs and you know other parts of the industry that that does actually impact everyday individuals or am I absolutely? So that falls into that big business spending. Are they spending money? They spend money on people, right, and they give us our health care, they match our four one case, they pay salaries,

things like that, um. And so they want to know if big businesses are spending money and that would fall us having jobs would fall in that category. Now the only not the only And I want to like because you cannot declare any of this beforehand. All of this is just predictions and and point of views, right, So my point of view is the real only space that you would feel a recession. Um as kind of a

marginalized person is a in job loss. So to prepare for a recession, you should have a candid conversation with your employer and find out their intentions. Are you all planning to lay off period? Right? And then um, if your business, if you're an entrepreneur or a small business owner or just a business owner in general, if you have business to business contracts, or if you have you know, if your business relies on government contracts, you might you

will start to feel it, right. Um, It's very unlikely that you'll feel it in a housing market right now, as the housing market declines, people are still do on well. Um. And so it's only like those two areas that personally people will likely feel a recession losing a job, which we don't know because it hasn't The huge layoffs has haven't happened. Right, we had the great resignation, but the huge layoff situation hasn't happened, and COVID prepared us for that.

We're still in survival mode. So when people got laid off during COVID, a lot of people turned the entrepreneurship and things like that, and so COVID kind of prepared us for this moment, and so it's not going to be such a slap in the face as you know it would have been if you know, pre COVID era. Mm hmm. Okay, So what I want to figure out is this, So inflation is pretty much harming people of color, right,

Obsession is not really our think, that's big business. That's you know, those people who goods and import and exports. So okay, so that makes a lot of sense. So what can the average person do during and during this inflation time to kind of prepare kind of offset, Like,

what are some strategies that you would recommend? So I think the first thing, and I know no one ever wants to hear about mindset because they like that horses beat, but I really feel like everyone needs to just take a moment, right, breathe and get your mindset in order and make sure that your mindset is in alignment and you have intentions. What am I trying to get out of this particular period in in our life or in this economy? Right? And so you stop, you get your

mindset together. Let's not give into the fear that they are pushing on us, right, because there's marketing in everything, and including economics and things like that. So on the internet, on everywhere that you see, they are beating us with fear. Do not give into it, right, Just stop for a second and understand and assess yourself personally. The next thing you do is when you need to be responsible or accountable to your money, create a spending plan. A spending

plan is a budget. We as she building her. Don't use the word budget anymore because the women said it feels too restrictive. So we create spending plans. Okay, not budgets, but you create a spending plan. Look, do you have your emergency fund in order? Right? Where are you holding your emergency fund? Get you a high yield savings account? Right because as if as the fans want inflation to come down, they raised the interest rates. When the interest

rates are raised, that means money is more expensive to borrow. Right. So if you have your money inside of a high yield savings account with a bank, that bank's interest rates are going up, so you're getting paid more on the money that you're leaving in there. Right. So you want an emergency phone, but not just that, you want to emergency fund. You want to sit it inside of a

high yield savings account. Right, you want to how much how much would you say that the average person, average woman since we're talking on she building her and my son said she building him too, But how much would you say a woman needs to have in the emergency from Okay, So do you have this like ideal number of like six to nine months? But then you also see that like in New York, rent for the first

time is on average of five thousand dollars. Do people have six months worth five thousand dollars just in rent, not including utilities, card note, insurance, groceries, all these things. Is it possible, like if it's ideal to have six months, if you cannot have six months, like started two months, right, and during those two months work you'll ask work, your boy ask everything. Another month in there, you know, just

start where you are with what you have. Don't get wrapped up in the I should have this, because when you get wrapped up in that, you feel incompetent and then you just you like, you know what, yogot, I don't got nothing, and that's just it is what it is. Outcross that bridge when I get there. We don't want that just start with where you are, so ideally six months. If that's not possible, just whatever you have start putting into the side and saving it. You were giving some

more tips on things that people should do. Yeah, so create your spinning plan. Make sure you have an emergency fund, some sort of emergency fund set up. Make sure your credit is okay, just in case you need to get some um, you need to get some help and and start borrowing some money or credit card or something like that to float you. Um, you should put it inside

of how your savings account. Have a conversation with your employer to see if layoffs are coming right, and then understand like opportunities in terms of like double down on your skill set because inflation cannot just like we would like to just be like let the gas prices go back to the where they were, Let the you know, food prices and housing prices go back to what they were. But sometimes deflation is just as detrimental as inflation, so that you do not just drop everything because we will

still be in a bad situation. So it's kind of like this perfect storm happening. So really the bottom line is like keep your head down and work, just go and like stay focused on what you've been doing to generate money and income. Double down on your skill set. If you have a business, like just make sure you're over delivering retaining clients because you may not get new clients at the moment. You know, um, just you just stay keep your mindset aligned with wealth building. That is

just the bottom line, right. So if you're like a hair stylist, make sure you on time, taking care of your clients, properly, learning new skills so that you can keep your people happy because you may not be able. You know, other people might be like, I'm wearing braids for the next six months because I'm you know, I can't afford to be going back and forth to the hair salon. My son is laughing because you know, I'm

he knows. But even that right, put PayPal after pay on your website and let your client's book that way. Put them on a payment client. If you know that your client typically gets braids every six months, put that woman on a payment plan to pay you for every single month for twelve months. You can do or here twice in a year. Like you need to get innovative. You need to start understanding your client and your customer

and meeting them where they're where they are. We got into this like false sense of like you need me, I don't need you as business owners, which is kind of like that crazy, But the reality is you need to meet your client or your customer where he or she is, and so whatever you can do to accommodate them, because they want your goods or services. But whatever you can do to accommodate them, you need to get innovative

and start implementing that. Now, you know, because now you're providing then the security of knowing my lifestyle doesn't have to just drop out, and you're providing yourself the financial security of knowing you're gonna retain that client long term. Mm hmm sounds so. So this is a question that I actual time right now, So since we're dealing with inflation and also the quote uncover session that really doesn't

affect us. What do you think, like would be good investments right what would be right now in this time? What businesship should we be looking to start and and things of that nature. What's the opportunities? Yeah, recession definitely creates financial opportunities. Right was declared a recession. It was

the shortest recession in history. But in like the number like one percent of American adults became millionaires for the first time, right, and the number of millionaires went from like five million people to fifty six million people, right in the height of all the crazy. Right. So recession and really just unfavorable situations create points of opportunity period

in most industries. But um, i'd say this, there's a list so that me personally, I would say you need to be looking into stocks, bonds, crypto, real estate, which real estate is not my lane, so I don't really go into that, but real estate and in terms of businesses to start that is like a thousand percent not my lane, so I wouldn't even give any suggestions there. But in terms of UM investing, I think you need to take advantage of stocks, bonds, and cryptocurrency. We know

as talk about bonds. Okay, So stocks are equity, right, So you buy a stock, you own a little piece of a company that's doing well. So when that company makes money, you make money. It's equity, it's ownership. Bonds is debt. It's basically I owe you. You put your money here. It could be given to a corporation, that could be given to the government, there are different kinds

of bonds. You put your money into this bond, you're basically saying, hey, I'm willing to lock my money here for a given amount of time if you give me my money back plus interests on this specific date. Right.

And so the higher amount of the bond, the more money you put in there for a corporation to pull and use at their discretion or the government to pool and use at their discretion, the higher the interest rate is going to be on it, right as the more you know, money makes money, right, um, And so in times like this when interest rates are going up to bring inflation down, if you put your money in a bond and interest rates are going up, you're just gonna like be making more and more money on that I

owe you that you gave to a government or two corporation to use. And so it's really like I said, keep your mindset aligned and with intention and no like, hey, can I do without this five ten thousand dollars for three, five years, ten years. The long the more money and the longer you let us sit, the more money you're gonna make on it. Exactly. Yeah, No, I mean, like all of these illegal activities, the inspiration came behind from

legal activities. The legal activities came from the legal activities. Actually, you never know, just like we look at we look at bootlegging liquor back in the days, right, they wasn't selling liquor. First people started making it and selling it, and then the legal people say, you know what we could do. That just's like weed, the weed in the street. It was founded in the hood. They were selling weed

before they had these dispensaries. So don't listen. I'm just keeping it the world to know how to negro the situation. But I've been outside. Although they were selling cocaine before the streets were selling cocaine, Okay, yeah, they was, that's that's the first thing. They definitely was selling that first.

So I know that just took a left lest She looked at us like I was getting ready to safe because you think about poppy seeds and all of that stuff, like, so they were all they always had a way to get high or you know, a way to huh, yes, oh yeah you were Okay, I thought you were saying I'm wrong. No, So yeah, like they always had some kind of way to get high. You know, I don't even know because I want to, like, I need to find out what we talked to our friends in Africa.

What were we using for the euphoric feeling. I'm sure something mushrooms mushroom, Oh my god, we were using the mushrooms girl trooms disguise. I'm just merely telling you the street. So anyway, let's get back track here. We are trying to educate folks on what we need to be doing in this moment. So let me just recap. Inflation is

what hurts. So so we're hurting right now because people are definitely hurt and you can't travel with your family, you go to the grocery store, that because your your paycheck is the same, and in some situations, because of COVID and whatnot, it might even be less because you may not even have the same Like you said my song, whole industries have been gutted basically, things that people were doing in the past. There's not even a need for us.

So even I just think about, like, you know, there's probably some we don't know the numbers, but there's got to be some decline in transportation like ubers and all of that because people are working from home, you know, so you got that situation, you're trying to balance it out. And then and then probably way more people that want to be Uber's. Right before they used to be like, oh, you get an Uber, you make this amount of money. Now it's so much many more Ubers out there, money

to be made. You know, the number the number one place of inflation is new and used car sales. Wow, new and used car salves. So people, a lot of people are forced to use things like Uber and lift and stuff like that because it's hell expensive. Like, I know y'all are both y'all in New York and parking cars, Yeah, we do, actually like but gu's what but guess what? Parking is trash in New York. Like the cost of parking at the studio where we shoot. When we're able

to go into studio for this show. The parking lot used to be like what was it my song, like fifty dollars or something, which is ridiculous, and now it's like eighty dollars to park for a few hours. So I just read an article about in New York they are converting um structures to parking structures and they're selling a spot for a million dollars each spot for a

million dollars. But and people were like, that is so crazy, and I'm like, but when you really think about it, it's really not that crazy because if you can get a mortgage or something on that million dollars spot, you then own it, and so you can it's kind of

like airbnb. You could airbnb it out right, not like you know, but it's not that crazy when you think about annually how much you spend to park there and versus how much you spend in transportation costs or or other short term parking, like, it sounds crazy, but a

million dollars for a lifetime parking spot is not crazy. Well, this is this is what you're saying is a fact because when I lived on Park Avenue and thirty seventh Street for like ten years, and the building had a parking lot, and we had the means, so it's not like we couldn't but I but at the time or the person that I lived with, which um um, he he was what's the word I'm trying to look for.

He was very financially stable, that's the point. But he also was a person who didn't want to spend money on in so the building's parking spot was like three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the spot every year, and he's like, nah, I'm going across the street. We're gonna walk three blocks or whatever for the other thing. But the other spot was, you know, ridiculous, like some six thousand into something dollars a monk. It's just ridiculous.

It's in the end, it's still is way too much money for a person like you, like not you, but me. I can't afford it. So this is why you get priced out of living in certain communities because there's no way that you can afford to keep up your car, to keep up the mortgage or rent or whatever payments. The food prices are super high. Just buying a sandwich

down the street is a fifteen dollar purchase. A sandwich, a juice, and a baggage trips fifteen dollars on the corner of where I used in the Chinese restaurant seven dollars. I was. I was in the hood, in the hood, so believe they told me that it seven knowledge for four chicken wings? Are you kidding? We spend twenty dollars or we were spend twenty dollars. We just figured this out.

We spent twenty dollars a day on me and my husband a cup of coffee in the morning, one cup or two, well, one cup for me, one cup for him, So two cups is twenty dollars total. To know, No, it's Dutch bros. You know, it's so inflation to recap is what hits us in recession. There are some things, but overall, when the country is going through a recession, people are pretty much stable. Like they're just you know, marginalized folks in our communities. It's just like we've been

doing this. We're gonna keep on doing the same things we've been doing and making stuff right as long as you keep your job and as long as you keep your job. And it's like one of those things where it's kind of like when I hear may media talk about recession, I'm like, oh, welcome to the club. Welcome to the club. I'm glad you guys are feeling it. You guys like when y'all are going through it, it's

a damn recession. When we're going through it is laziness, like make it makes sense that when the math a math, and for y'all it's a damn global crisis. But the math have not been math and for us for a long time, and we've been stuck in the survival mode. So we're gonna make it do what to do regardless

because we have no options. You know, we're gonna stay in that you We're gonna stay thriving our version of thriving, whatever our version of thriving is, We're going to stay there while they are up in arms and trying to push their fear on us. Let them have they fear, and we're just gonna just continue to do what we've been doing. Well, I think that's a great way. It's like, hey, it's like just don't spend excess money. Basically, that's the whole point is m spend on your area of opportunity

that you're going to dominate during this recession. If it's stocks, if it's crypto, if it's real estate, whatever, you're going to step into and dominate because opportunity is going to arise, right whatever it is. You need to just say, all right, you know what, I can't afford to really take on real estate right now. All right, stocks are much cheaper to get into, right, especially with all these splits happening.

Stocks are much cheaper to get into. So I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna go heavy into my investing in the stock market because I'm going to pick one of these areas to dominate because three years, five years from now, I'm not gonna be left here saying I just tightened up the ropes and refused to spend anything. You are going to have to spend in order to triple your net worth within the next five years as we come out of this recession season, like you gotta spend,

just spend on the right things. Spend on the right things like my bags and shoes is not exactly going to help me, So I need to spend on something different. Um, you think let me just think of my question real quick. It was that you were saying, spend on them. Oh, and I think spending sometimes what we don't understand or we don't consider, is that training courses and you know, sessions to learn more about the industry that you want to be in. That's a part of the spending, making

sure you educate. It's an investment in yourself unless you go further faster, And we need to get there faster because we're getting left in this whole wealth wealth race right now. So you need to go further faster. So if you find someone that you align with that can teach you a skill set or um, you know, a strategy that's gonna help you go further faster. Invest mm hmm invest. I love that. Thank you so much, Star.

I appreciate you so much for coming on Street Politicians, and we've got to have We always have men on the show who talked about you know, financial wealth and um, you know, this is an area that a lot of our brothers really are excelling. They really are in the investment space. You know, We've had some great shows that have done well in terms of the number of people listening, but I'm always saying, where are the women that know

this work as well? And here we have you today, um from she building her and so thank you so much for coming on. We've got to have bet. Thank you. Can I just drop just a little strategy right at the end here, So I know we've been talking about the mindset around investing and stuff, but just like the strategic stuff, if you're listening, get out of pen I gave you to diversify your assets, right, so we're gonna buy stocks we're gonna buy bobs, We're gonna buy cryptocurrency,

we're gonna buy real estate. When it comes to stocks, I need you to make sure that the stocks that you're purchasing are good long term stocks. Right. There's a handful of strategies out there that will help you gain or generate income from the stock market. But if you are literally looking to place your money in there, allow it to build while you work on the other thing that you are passionate about. Make sure they're long term stocks.

Make sure you're put getting some blue chip stocks, right, so those are super stable, cash heavy companies, Visa Home Depot, Apple, things like that. UM, make sure you're buying some dividend pairs. We need extra income. Make sure you are investing in some of these companies that are dividend payers. You google um, um, dividend kings and dividend aristocrats, and you will find the best dividend companies to invest in on the SMP five. I know this is a lot that I'm just saying,

but go to Google. The other thing is you also want to make sure that UM that you either google or ask somebody about the tax implications of your investing. Okay, so if you are making or declaring as a couple less than two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars a year, put that stuff inside of a roth ira so that you don't experience this massive growth but then end up

with this massive tax bill. You want things to grow without taxes, Okay, And then when it comes to cryptocurrency, there's a ton of scams, right, but everything is not a scam, and we as the people, cannot think that everything is a scam. So you go do your research. The best thing that you can do is just invest in like the top five points bitcoin, you know, ethereum, the top five coins, and do a dollar cost average strategy of investing in crypto. That means it doesn't matter

how much the crypto is it. It only matters how much you are willing to put in to crypto every given amount of time. So if it's you know, two hundred dollars a month, it doesn't matter how much a bitcoin is. It just matters that you are going to buy two hundred dollars per month worth of bitcoin. That will get you a very long long way when it

comes to investments. So we need to find you so people can take your classes and listen to you know, your sessions on all of this, because everything you just said sounds good, but it seems like as soon as we finished hearing it this fast, it's just it just dissipates. It's like what just what what you know? Like, dude, aritheum, the ECA things, Google, dividends aristocrats, So I didn't remember.

But you know, it's hard to keep up with it when as soon as you finished listening to this one class, then you got your baby crying in the background. You need to cook dinner, you gotta make it to work. Maybe you study in for you know whatever, you're trying to pass a class, your husband wants loving your you know, whatever is going on. It's a lot. So to keep up with this, you do have to stay in school if you will, and keep educating yourself. So tell folks

hot I can find you. You can find me. I'm most active in terms of social media on Instagram and it's she building her underscore ce A So she building her underscore ce a UM and then you can always find me on my website, she building her dot com. You can text me at five one zero three to seven eight seven four or seven um. Just text the word money and then like it's actually me, we can exchange the conversation. UM, And I just want to make a point. Everything that you just said in terms of

how it feels overwhelming is what I identify with. And it's also why I strictly teach women because I understand the struggle and I'm able to meet my client where she is because I've been there, done that, kids, husband, in the household, the whole thing. So yes, she building her So thank you so much, both of you. This was an amazing conversation. UM. I really appreciate it you having me here. Thank you for your expertise and everything that you do. Man, we appreciate you, my pleasure. That's

how we are. Yeah, she gave us some dope information, real good you know, especially the way she ended it. That's people need that, right, you know. In these times there are a lot of people that have a couple of dollars that want to figure out what do I do with these couple of dollars? You know, I want to make a dollar turn a dollar out of fifteen sins, you know, And and she gave us some good information.

So strategies, Yeah, we need strategies, We need real strategies at these times because that coin ain't going as far as you used to. Man before during the pandemic, it was getting p p P loans and everybody was in this. And then listen, because the p p P is no longer, everybody on e and the streets is dry, you better figure out how to make a couple of dollars because we're saying, want his money back, you know. And that

brings me to a night. I was just looking at the news where the um District Attorney in Atlanta says, within the next sixty days she has two more major indictments. You know, so local Georgians, you know, have to because because she's a she's a state, you know, so it's not a federal case. So you know, it's it's tough out here. Man. I'm saying, listen, the streets is gone. They're gonna take you down. Everything is a rico charge.

They're not gonna let you get away with it. They catch you with a gun, they catt they're gonna roof you. They won't send you to the up A rude people ain't playing with you. Man, It's no because my I forget my anems get it. Because this is important, man, Like you know, when you think about the amount of people who are going to be in jail in the next couple of years or probably within the next year, actually based off things that happened during this recession and

during this inflation, and because of this inflation. It's serious. So we have to be you know, honest and be informative to these young kids and whoever is paying attention, who can get the message to let them know that they're really gonna take you down, like they're gonna take you down. Hopefully people understand that they get on your ass, you know. Um, you know, my my prayers go out to young Thug and Gonna and all of those those brothers dealing with that situation. I don't know, you know

the details. I just know what I hear from the news, but I know that it has to be, you know, traumatizing to go from being a millionaire one day, being able to have everything you want to the next day you're fighting federal, federal and state reco charges which can land you in jail for the rest of your life,

you know. And and I see, you know, I've seen another um brother that I know I don't want to say his name, because I don't know if the information is correct, but I've seen, yeah, I saw, I saw, I saw that they're looking for him for attempted murder, you know. So it's it's so many different things that's going on, especially within the hip hop community. And that's why for me, this boycott Black Murder campaign and you know, initiative that we're launching, you know, it's going to be

something that's important. It's education, is cultural, is getting the young individuals that's in golfed in this culture, you know, who have been following the culture of negativity and violence, to rethink what that looks like, right, to rethink how do we have the same culture, how do we enjoy the same fun, How do we wear the same clothes and enjoy the same things without violence, without negativity, without those things that can either lose our lives or lose

our freedoms. Right, how do we retrain the culture to make being nonviolent and being someone who who intervenes and and de escalate situations someone who we celebrate, you know. So that's what it is for me, you know, because I'm tired of seeing people that look like me, that come from the same culture go to jail. You know, you've got k flock. One day he's a hot rapper, next day he's fighting murder charges. Like that's that can't

just be it. It can't be we get hot as a rapper for one minute and then next you know, you're fighting attempted murder charges and reco charges and you and you don't you're just a name that somebody was on the T shirt and free my man while you're sitting in jail for a hundred years. Like that can't be with all the same time, can't normalize, that can't be what it is. So you know, you know, my my own my respect goes out to everybody. But I just I'm going to be on the front line of

changing that narrative and changing that reality. You know. So that says hold another topic, Um, I don't get it. State representative. I've seen State representative lady and she was twirking, just tworking. She was on her handstand. She was twirking on the handstand, you know. But I was fully out twirking and she was saying she can twerk. And I'm

I'm and I'm not really mad that she right. I'm just trying to figure out is this the new thing, like it's it is everything like sexually overly sexual an explicit is that the only thing that we do to captivate each other. I was watching Karisias Show and I was listening to Kevin Gates and he was just saying the most volgar ship that you could possibly say, right, and it's just like and people just in tune with it.

It's just like, so that's the new thing, just to be completely sexual all the ways vogar like, because I mean, if if it is, I just don't get it. I just don't get because there has to be like they has you know, they say a separation of church and state. Right, There's there's certain things that go in certain categories rights, certain things. If when I I'm I'm multifaceted, right, I do many things. I'm I know I'm well versed in street life or understand that the dynamics in the streets.

I also understand, you know, to level politics and understand how to bridge gaps in certain things. And sometimes you play different arenas different ways. But for me, is this going to be the new thing that the new senators and when you're running for office, it's gonna be some sexual thing that makes you pay attention to you. Like everyone, she got elected without the sexual stuff, and and and and had an overwhelming had overwhelming support from her community.

I think that there's always been people who were different, Right. If you watch Um American Gangster, you learn how Adam Clayton Powell as a congressman, he was just different from the others, right, And we see people like that now. She that's just who she is. Like even though Ada Adam claiming power was a street dude who understood politics.

What I'm saying, but I'm saying, he's still He's still in the ways in which he worked, right, there are a lot of other congressional members that would have never been engaged with the relationship. Um. You know with Malcolm X people he cursed, but he was gangster the way he handled things. He was definitely different. I'm not saying. I'm just saying she is a woman who was in her you know, wherever her private time she was working, and she basically was just like, hey, vote for me,

and that's that's it. It's not that I'm not saying I'm just not the trend that everybody else has to do it, or what I'm just trying to figure out. It's like, right, this is what it is, Cardi b Mega Stallion, Right, they got what m hm right? And they have different songs. I think that you have to read the room, right. I think when you're doing certain things, I don't think they're gonna go to the White House and the phone walk And she didn't go to she

she wasn't on the campaign. What are you saying, Are you not on a campaign trail when you saying vote for me after you you were? Honestly, I literally, first of all, it was not a campaign ad. She just said vote for me, and they made it a big deal. What I'm saying is that I'm sure that that woman when she goes to her campaign events, when she's in her community, she like she was on vacation or somewhere relaxing, and as she was doing her twork, she was like,

vote for me, Okay, cool. What I'm saying is I'm sure that when she goes to work, she puts the suit on or whatever she wears, and she does whatever she's doing. And I'm saying, why would you attach your job if you just if she was just out there tworking. And maybe some people that don't vote for her, then maybe some people who do. The reason why I can't, the first of all for me is there are more important things folks to be worried about. That's my opinion.

But also in my situation, I have a number of people, and basically, just so you know, most of them, most of the folks, almost ninety nine ain't nine percent. I literally, I think I can say a hundred percent because I'm just thinking, thinking, really, up of those individuals who have contacted me about of bikini um um picture online or

some sexy picture that I posted have been men. It's been a hundred percent of those who have something to say about how I present, or what I should wear, or how sexy I should have should not be, have been men. I literally rarely, ever I think I might. I'm just and I'm making it up because I cannot see the face of the person or even though one woman. Now they may say it's behind the scenes or whatever, I'm not saying what, but I'm just telling you, not

one woman that I know that knows me. Also, because most of the women who know me and they're around me outside of the movement, they say, you know, that's to me that's that's That's what I'm trying to say, is this, and and and I go through the same thing, right, like I haven't hear you don't you don't you're a man, and like like for me to say it's not about sexual, it's not about sexual. But I'm just trying to tell you, like it's to your point, it's people who know you.

Right When people who know you, then they know there's a certain dynamic of you that exists right there. Knows that when you go out and you on the beach, you're gonna have on the babysit, you're gonna have a nice baby and suit on. When you're in the party, you're gonna have on a sexy dress. They know this is to me, this has always been new to mek It.

So people who are just being introduced to you because you've done speeches and you've been at political events and you you gain and garnered attention and garnered a level of leadership in the space, and that's all they know of.

You might be surprised by certain things you said that, but I'm just trying to take when in but that was so surprised that I'm not saying you wrong I'm not saying it at all, right, And when I was saying, is I deal with the same thing because there's aspects of my song that people will see on the end. And if the old no, I followed you because I like you did this, and I know that always been me. So you know, there's never been a man that knows me to call him like because they know that's who

my son is. Right, There's always been women that called me. More often than not. They are women who say, yo, you need to not do this, because they don't. That's just different the dynamic that they haven't been about me. So what I'm trying to explain to you is not saying she's wrong for what it is. I'm just saying everything has a place, right, I just know what are

you talking about. What I'm trying to say is I'm not gonna go to church, but I'm not I'm not saying at the beach right, I'm not gonna, Okay, I'm not gonna go knowing that I'm a pastor of a church right right, and I'm not a church and I'm being on the beach right and say around about shooting somebody, and say and and and make sure you're cut to my church tomorrow, right, I'm I'm gonna listen to me because I still represent that church, right, I represent that church.

And and even though I'm on my free time and I'm doing whatever and I wron and I like snoop dogs wrong, right, I'm not gonna do that. And then connected to my space in my work that I have nothing to do with that. I don't do that. I don't disagree that connecting it my is problematic for folks

like they can't get past that. I understand it. All I'm saying to you is that there are many people, there are many pastors out here who have large congregations that talk about all kinds of ships, okay, and they use it as a marketing tool to draw people into their into their congregation. I'm just saying that the woman was tworking, and in the midst of her tworking, she said vote for me, and it became a thing I

do not believe that I don't personally get. And the way I feel about it is like I don't care. That's how I feel. It's not so much whether I get it or not. I just don't care. What I do care about, though, is is she on the issues, housing, healthcare. I need to know that, because if she's not on the issues, and that's all what's going on here is just working, then she definitely is not qualified to be a state representative. But if qualifications is not even my thing,

I'm just talking. I'm just I'm telling you the way that I look at it, the way that I the way that I approached it. When I saw it, I wanted to know, is this somebody who's on the issue. So I went on her website. I see she's on the issues. You know what I'm saying. So I'm just less concerned about this work. I just don't care. My thing is this is there. You don't have to convince me. You don't get it. And I told you my point is, I don't care. Why we gotta keep going back and

forth about it. And with that said, I'm not gonna always be right to me. It's not gonna always be wrong. Actually we're wrong a lot of times, like right now, but we will both always and I mean always, always, always be authentic peace. People listen to Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network on I Heart Radio and catch us every single Wednesday for the video version of Street politicians, when I women dot TV,

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