Ep. 417 "The New Black Body" with Dr Michael Jones and Marcia Dyson

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bring it down to Louisiana. So today's show is I'm super excited because you know got this belly, you know, and I'm you know, trying to consider exactly how well.

First of all, I'm not two pound soaking with Okay, I'm not because I can remember a few months ago that I was talking to like you, and I think we were all on a call on on the zoom, you and Angelo and Linda and somebody else, and I was eating and it was like eleven something at night and you were like, yo, you can't really eat that at night, Like your face is fat, Like you really hurt my feelings when you said what you said, and it made no it wasn't a joke because it's true.

It's true. But it's cool though. I think you know a little way you need a little weight. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not like, yo, you're fat and sloppy. I'm just but you just stuff on your face at eleven twelve o'clock at night, it's just like my favorite time to eat. You gotta happen and I need a whole steak at twelve a m. You listen to me, women are so into vanity but don't want to do the things that's necessary. You want to let me go this nip tuck, let me do this. Well, how about

not eating at twelve o'clock? I know I do. You know? How about some sit ups? How about this? I do that too, but I might just imagine it down so that and then I can have a start. Why don't you start? I know, I'm gonna see with Jennifer Williams, my friend, my dear sister, our friend who is a she's a workout expert. Okay, she's like yo six. They don't do working out, no more like that, just they just but you know, I think you can work out in Hey, it's a balance. But you know today today today,

I might sometimes I do work out today. You don't know everything. I'm just trying to when you do it when I'm by myself. Yeah, people, sometimes I don't be with y'all. I got my own thing I do. I do work out, all right, thank you. And sometimes I lay in my bed and I do these things with my legs circular. I do that. I do a little bit of squats that my knees because of the marching. My knees have issues where the squatting. They're telling me I might not be able to do squatting as much.

So I gotta find another way. I'm gonna figure it out. All I'm saying is that today there's a man who's joining us that might be able to flatten it down. That's all I'm saying. Listen, I appreciate him. He's he's dope, but you know, I hope he tells you how to start exercise. But before we get to our guests, we have some other things. And you know, because I'll be thinking.

I was just thinking to myself, Governor Abbot, right in Texas, right, I saw you in a bunch of men, which thank you so much, who all posted this thing that said, um men should not be controlling women's bodies. And I think that is just so so so powerful that men are making that statement. But Governor Abbott, it's either either he hates women or he's just dumb. It's one of two things. It could be both, but you know, no, he's either either he hates women or he's just dumb.

And the reason why I say that it is because this statement that he made where he says, I know what we're gonna do about the rapist. So this is after in Texas they put all of these provisions around women being able to get abortions, and in fact um and I guess the six weeks. You can't get an abortion after six weeks. But then I saw that the regulations, the people who actually regulated and reported are the citizens. So it's it's pitting you and me against one another.

That if you believe I shouldn't get an abortion, or if you know you heard me say that I'm nine weeks and I'm going somewhere to get an abortion, or you learn about somebody who might be helping folks to go get you know, the proper care, that you can report me and then I can be fine ten thousand dollars and get in trouble, like, hold the hell, what are y'all talking about? It's so it's dangerous, it's ignorant, and it's and it's white because you need to get

hit in your mouth and right talking people business. But anyway, and so it is it's very dangerous. And what they're doing isn't It isn't a It is a deliberate attempt to roll back Rovie Wade and take away women's rights to have abortions. And this has been something that we knew that Republicans specifically, we're going to be working on and that's why they wanted Kavanaugh to get his seat on the Supreme Court. Um, and that's what they're doing. Right.

The Supreme Court is already agreeing, unfortunately, with this decision in Texas. So when the reporters asked Governor Abbott, he's dumb or he's crazy or something. When they asked this man, what are you gonna do about rapists, he responded, We're gonna arrest the rapists, basically, gonna put a bounty on the rapist's head. It so you're saying that after they rape,

you'll arrest him. So forget about the fact, like at that point that I've been raped, I got a baby in my stomach that I don't want, don't need, too young, whatever, all the circumstances that's just attached to the trauma that I'm not even able to deal with. And so then I'm just supposed to get to have this baby while

you arrest this rapist possibly. And by the way, the laws, just so you know, in a lot of ways do not really protect women the way that they should or protect, as you said, people who have been raped in general. So I'm trying to understand that he hate women or is he stupid? You think he's a little bit of both, a little bit of both. I just think to force someone to have a baby, you know, based on circumstances that are less than fortunate, that are legal, that that

are traumatizing, you just can't do it. Just can't all of those things. I mean. But when we when you said the rape thing, that's just to me, it's just like sid bro, like, come on, it's not even funny. It's really just sad because the mind state. Listen, I'm trying to tell you, the mind state of a white supremacist is dangerous, you know what I'm saying? Like something

I forgot. I think it was de l. Hugeley who said the worst place for a black person to live is in the mind of a white supremacis you know what I'm saying. And when you start really looking at these situations like it's so many, it's so deep. This situation is just so deep, it goes beyond that. It's a whole another show we can have. But just just the dynamics of him just saying we're just gonna arrest him and just not looking at what the question actually

was saying. The question was like what do you want to do about the people rape these women? We still got that the baby. Bro he's talking about something that's

not connected. It's not just arrest rapist. But we're saying that the woman who now has the baby in her stomach, who or or the or the fetus, the embryo, the embryo, the embryo, the embryo, right or The feat is you're now are carrying this thing, this life is life, and you are saying, I cannot I think, well, it's potential, Like, well, the point is that up until six weeks, what they're saying is that it's not a life up until six weeks. Then they're saying after six weeks it becomes a life.

What I'm saying is I it's not in the earth in the world yet, and I can't think me right, so and then and then you know, I mean, I think about my own abortion story, and it's like, and there's so many women who are telling their stories. If I had a baby at the time that I was pregnant, and by the way, I was more than six weeks pregnant, and I had to have a two day proceed year where the first day they go in and they do something that basically makes you start contracting and then the

next day they go in and take the baby. I had to go through that because I was too young to have a baby. First of all, I didn't even know I was pregnant, because I don't even know my body. For too long, I didn't know. I didn't know anything about being pregnant. Then when I figured out that I was pregnant, I was too scared to tell someone that I was that I was pregnant. I don't tell my mother that. So all of the decision making, trying to get my friends to help me find a place to go,

and everything that I went through. It took me some time. And then, by the way, I wasn't putting that on my parents insurance policy because I didn't want them to know. I didn't know that at that time that they wouldn't know, but I thought they might have started to get the money together to go have an abortion. It was a lot of stuff that had to happen. I had. I

needed time to get it together. And so you know, there are people with stories similar stories, and I just I don't And even if we do decide as women that we shouldn't be having abortions at a certain time, it should be our decision to make, and we should be having those conversations in conjunction with other women leaders and then deciding what is the best for what's the best for us, for our bodies, and of course keeping in mind that there is a father, there is a

man who's involved that should be able to have some say so. But nonetheless, I, as a woman, have to be the one to bring life. And I just I'm just the thing that scares me is that then the idiot And excuse me, I don't know if I'm supposed to call people idiots, but I said it. But the other one that either hates women or is dumb and hates black people and hates poor people and hates everybody is governor the Santis in Florida. Now he's talking about, Oh yeah, we're gonna look at the same type of

thing here, and it's going to be everywhere. It's gonna be an Alabama, It's gonna be everywhere if we don't stop it. So it's a very very very serious and concerning thing. Um and and and and and it's scary as hell. And what's more scary is what women will do as an alternative because they ain't gonna have no baby. If they can't have a baby, that's a fact. We know that because we remember, yeah and watch the movie what is It? Precious? It's in there, you know what.

I appreciate the fact that you let me on us on this show, have so many people that helped me think through my own life's choice. You know, you make a lot of decisions. I don't. I don't we make them together. I mean, don't try to act like you know we don't have them. But see the guests that we have today here with us. UM is going to talk about some stuff that engage involves men as well, not just us women in our class. It's about time. So I am so grateful to have Dr Michael Jones

with us today. Now for you all who may not know, first of all, you've seen them on TV. Of course you have. We actually put up a post looking for some uh folks out there who may have had botched plastic surgery jobs, and people were like, well, I don't I didn't have that, But I know you need to have Michael Jones. You need to have Dr Jones because they've been watching you on TV. He is a celebrity. Um And you know, he probably doesn't want him to

be called a celebrity, but he's a celebrity. The world renow the world renowned plastic surgeon to many of the stars across the country. There have been people who talk about the great work and service that they've had um with Dr Michael Jones. And he also specializes in ethnic care and and specifically key Lloyd's, which we're really really going to delve into today. Um My, A couple of my family members suffer with key Lloyd's and it's always

been a conversation since we were small. People could not get piercings. M My sister actually never was able to pierce her ears, and there was always a concern that any nick you get it could turn into a Hi Lloyd because it's obviously a big stigma in our community. So we're really happy to have you here to talk about this stuff today, Dr Jones. I am really happy to be here. Thank you for having me on your show. Yes, welcome the street politicians and hearing all you guys talk

me up that just I just feel great. Yeah no, but you I mean, you are who you are. We don't have to make it up. You had nine offices around the country, so your servicing people everywhere. Listen, we want to be where the people are, and not all of our patients can come to us here in New York City, so we reached out. We went to other cities where there is a high density of people of color. So we're also in New Jersey, We're also in the

d C. Area. We're also in Atlanta, also in Florida, Miami, Houston, and l A. Now, but people act like they're not getting plastic surgery, like they're like, you know, no, these are my breast you know, well, you know, more and more people are being more open about it. It's it used to be taboo in our community. People were like, oh no, that's that's something that's not for us as people of color. It's more for those rich white people. But the reality is people have been black people have

been having plastic surgery for years. It's just now starting to become more commonplace where we actually talk about it and we're okay sharing our experience. That makes sense, Okay, So two piggyback off of what Tomka just said, um as you being one of the people who talk about we have some males up here for a change, because it always about what women are dealing with most of the time. You know, two questions I want to ask, First,

is what made you get into plastic surgery? And then I want to also ask, like, how many men actually get plastic surgery? Alright, great questions. I went into plastic surgery because I love making people happy. And I started off doing oncology type of surgery. It's cancer surgery, and it was difficult for me because I like to get to know my patients. I like to get to know

their families. And then I would spend eighteen twenty twenty four hours trying to remove their cancer and reconstruct their their defects after we took the cancer out, and despite that, many times those patients would die. And so then that was really hard for me to handle. So I wanted

to change. I wanted to to pivot and take care of patients that I could grow old with, people that I can make a difference in their lives, people that I could actually help restore their self confidence, their self esteem, make them feel better about themselves, whether it's because of a cosmetic issue or a reconstructive issue. And so that's kind of why I went into what I do. Mhm. So the men, now, as far as men brothers are having plastic surgery, believe it, they are. We we have surgery.

The most common procedures for us are liposuction because we we struggle to get rid of those love handles and that little bit of fat down the lower abdomen. Bleft replasty, the eyelids, the bags under the eyes, the bags over the eyelids, that's very common for men. And then rhinoplastic um is really one of the most common things for men that no surgery, nose reshaping where we're actually you know, helping to define the nose or refine it or get rid of a defect or hump or bump or wide

nostrils or flat bridge. So men, okay, But the the the narrative that's out there is that it's mainly gay men who are having you know, surgery to make themselves look more I guess feminine. I guess, you know, But I don't know that that's true because I think that is not the case. It is not the case. We do have our share that are doing somewhere like licosuction or Brazilian butt lifts for certain reasons. But that is not the majority that we see. The majority are very

you know, confident, testosterone producing men. They really are are are inclined to want to just look better. Well, yeah, because there ain't These men ain't men. The first person I've heard, it's only two people that I know that um Kanye said that he got some surgery done, and I know that funk Master Flex actually talked about it. But it's not a lot of men who really say

that they're going on. I think it definitely is a stigma, like men don't really want to talk about it, but it's not something that is prevalent that actually know about. So to hear you say this is like, well, so all the men in the gym who are looking like you know that they are all sexy. You're telling me some of them have actually sucked it out, just like a few of us, because I need to suck mine out to tell you the truth. Listen, some of us,

some of us will. You know, you might be in the gym, you're working out, but you still may need a little help. You may not be able to see clearly. I'm gonna tell you this story. I'm not gonna tell your name, but we had a Mr. Olympian and an Olympian Mr. You know the guys who do the muscle building contest. This guy won many of them. But every time he prepared for a contest, he gave himself a little steroids. So when he gave himself the steroids, he

would get a little pooch. He would get a little bit of what called kind of comasteria where he gets a little man boots. And he didn't like that and it effected his competition. So we helped him by doing a little micro liposuction, little mini liposuction in those areas to get rid of those problem parts of his body. But this was a big dude, so slim people like me right because I'm little. Most people look at me

and they're like, there's nothing wrong with you. But there is a pouch that is sitting out in my stomach and it's so funny. We went to Fatio's birthday party recently and I had on this really nice dress and it was nice and fitted, and I was speaking and I knew going out the door that I had the conversation in the mirror, like, oh, this is really serious. I knew it was growing. I've been seeing it. It's

it's not just pandemic weight, it's just weight period. And I but when I finished talk, you know, speaking at his event, the pictures went viral and many of them came back to me with people who were my friends, like, what's going on with your stomach? Are you pregnant? Because my stomach is it's out. So people like me, do they get liposection or they're too small? People like you

get liposection. Realistically, LiPo suction is for the young. It's really shouldn't be done in people that are older because as we get older, our skin allasts to see. That spring to our skin decreases. So when you take the fat out from behind the skin, if you are older, it's not going to snap back. It's actually gonna want to hang. So when you're younger and you have nice spring to your skin, that's actually the ideal time to take that fat out because it will lay flat and

you will look great. Well, I gotta ask one more things we know is still it's still no. So let's talk about breast and plants because obviously every it's a big thing. Everybody, all my friends talk about it, and many of them have done it, some fake like they haven't, and we know others they are very honest and saying that they have, and they're like they're out. The girls are hanging. So I'm just so, do you do a

lot of breast implants? We do a lot of breasts, to be honest with you, in our Black community, they're not a lot of women that actually do the augmentations. There are a lot of women that do the reductions and do the lifts because they've had pregnancy, the breasts have gotten and gorged with milk, and then the milk

dissipates and now the breast hang and they're sagging. So we do a lot of breast lifts, a lot of breast reductions, and more and more now we're starting to see a lot of lifts with augmentation with the implants. So we do a lot of those and how often? So what are the risks? Because it is it? Health? Is it? How healthy? Is what is the risk? Like? You know, because a lot of I hear a lot of women say I want to get this in this and I'm like, well, and a lot of them. For

some reason. For me, I think it's become like a trend, like it's become a train and a lot of women who are saying they want to get it, I'd be like, wolly, I don't really see the knee, you know, So what what do you think the risk of versus reward? Like most people happy afterwards, or that you're getting complains people that I shouldn't have done it, Like what is well, you know, that's a great question, and the reality is

why is someone presenting in the first place for it? Right, So if you have if you're now a fourty year old woman who back in her twenties had very perky breasts, walked around and you were confident, and then you had four children, and now your breasts aren't quite where they were. Maybe now you're divorced. Maybe now you're a little depressed because you're going back onto the dating scene. So we're here to help that person feel self confidence again, to

be powerful again. And so there are risks. It is not like going to the nail salon. It's not like going to the hairdresser. There are real concerns, but the rewards can be quite rewarding that self confidence, that empowerment that we're helping them with. But the risk are they're bleeding infection um, the fact that sometimes if if you're working with an implant and it gets infected, the body doesn't really then want it anymore. It tries to push

it out. That's called extrusion, where it tries to pop the implant back out. And the most common thing that happens with with breast implants is that sometimes the capsule or the scar that forms around the implant, because the body sees this as foreign. It knows it's not supposed to be there, so it tries to wall it off from the rest of your body, forms a capsule around it. And in most people it's fine. The breast has nice

natural mobility and the capsule is nice and thin. But in very rare instances, that capsule can start to thicken, almost like forming a keyloid on the inside of the body around the implant. When that happens, it starts squeezing on the implant, the breast doesn't move as well, and in the worst case scenarios, it can cause pain and deformity to the breast, and then we have to go

in remove the implant, remove the capsule. Do you remove it and put another one in, or it depends on what the client wants, or is it Okay, so this is my last question on this because I know I'm I'm digging into it, but seriously, so it's it's fat grafting. Do you think that's a better option for people who

might feel like I'm worried about that encapsulation issue. I think it's an option for the right person, because some people are a cups and they want to be d R and you can't get there and you can't solved. So you might get one cup size change with with fat grafting, and or you have to do it multiple times because you're putting it in, you expand the skin, some wait several months or a year, then do it

again and you might get a bigger size. The nice thing about fat grafting is that it is it is your body's own tissue, so you don't have that same those same issues with the body rejecting it, the same

issues with extrusion, the same issues with capsular contraction. But on the other side, there's some people that believe that by putting in the fact, it's less predictable result because not all the facts going to survive, some of it's gonna dissipate, some of that's going to resolve and may not give you the ultimate results that you're looking for. So I have a question, most people satisfied or do you have more people who are like what is the ratio?

Because I look at Ky Michelle, She's like, it's the worst thing. Michelle did too much. There's a lot of people who you know that, there's a lot of people that I look at that have done it and I feel like they've done too much, and I don't know if they're happy or not. So I just want to know, what do you what are you hearing from the patients? We would not be in business and if our patients were unhappy. So the vast majority of our patients are happy. That is the purpose of why we exist and to

make people happy. Were happy. But he brings up a very good point. Too much can be too much, and so very often in my day I am telling people that know we I'm not comfortable giving you additional surgery or giving you what you want for the next procedure, because I do feel that as a doctor we have to do no harm. And so there's a point where more surgery leads to harm. When you look at Michael Jackson, at some point he did too much and then he

lost the skin on his nose. Yeah, so BBLS is sometimes doing a little bit too much, like not saying just the BBL surgery, but I've seen people do too much back there. Well, you know, there's there's this different concept that people have a beauty and I'm trying to say a really nice but you know, I'm not a fan of that very ant look appearance. I like a very natural but a nice heart shape or bubble bud or you know, whatever you want to call it, but a nice natural booty. But a lot of these women

are having multiple procedures. They're doing it to three times to really get that expansion and the very odd expansion around the hips, so they literally look like ants where the mid section is very big and then the legs. And I don't think that but ratio. It has to work up, it has to work right, and that that doesn't look good. It does, so you don't think that's just a bad plastic surgeon. Now, that's the patient asking as that's the concept of their in their head of

their beauty. So let's talk about scarring um because that would be you know, and I assume that you work on people who have key Lloyd's, which is a real like we're learning that key Lloyd's is a real serious thing, but what exactly is it? That's yeah, okay, good because I was going to ask to people who get plastic surgery not know that the keyloid. Is there a way for you to know prior to surgery and then deal with it? You know that that's a great question. Key

Lloyd's are really these tumorous growths of scar tissue. So anytime you cut yourself, you have an incision, or you just bump yourself on the table. If you're a keyloid former, that little laceration, that little cut can evolve into a scar tissue that grows outside the boundaries of that initial incision or scar, and so it then starts growing into other parts of your body and starts to take over and trap hair follicles and lead to all kinds of

other issues. Would you know if you were a keyloid former before you went to have plastic surgery, you might not know. You may have gone your whole life never had a keyloid before, and then you had cosmetic surgery or or even a heart surgery or necessary purnious whatever the surgery is and then you're you develop a keyloid. And the keyloids are incredibly painful, they continue to grow, often, they itch, They can be incredibly debilitating. They can keep

you up at night. They are a problem that up to of people of color, people of color, Asians, Latins, people of African descent will have. So there's a lot of people in the world that are suffering from keyloids of key Lloyd's right now. And you have worked on some big, big, some of those keloids that I've seen. I was like, wow, I didn't even know that we work on. We work on some that are the size of a peak, and we work on some that take over the entire face, take over the entire back, and

it's horrible for these patients. We we had a gentleman who came to us from Chicago area, um Keenan, who was featured on our show, who he got his whole church involved because he just didn't have insurance that would cover his procedures. So he got his church involved to give him a donation to travel all the way to New York to have his surgery. And it we couldn't do it in one surgery. It took years, years for us to remove all of the key Lloyd's on his face.

He couldn't go out. He wore a towel around his neck all the time because they were draining chronics while they drain pus foul smelling discharge. We're coming out and to me that insurance companies don't see this as being like an issue that should be on the list of things they cover. You know, it takes a lot of fighting. We spend a lot of our time caring for our patients and trying to convince the insurance companies that this

is a necessary procedure. Now, you imagine walking around with a beard of key Lloyd's just hanging off of your face, and you think that that is cosmetic. To remove that is cosmetic. It's not cosmetic. It is a medical condition that needs to be paid for by these insurance companies. But the insurance company insurance companies know that the vast majority of people that get this are brown people. There are people, and so they don't want to pay for that.

Why what what is it some some genetic thing? It is genetic, and that's and that is that is the point. We don't know why it was formed. In my opinion is that evolution somehow wanted to try to create stronger scars because if you cut yourself, and before we had antibiotics, if you cut yourself, you wanted that that cut to heal and never open again. But oftentimes, you know, you've seen a boxer who you know, every time it gets in the ring, that one cut constantly is opening up.

So in the in an evolution, maybe we form that stronger scar so that those cuts wouldn't open up, you wouldn't get that infection, and you wouldn't die. So how did you So did you have a patient that you were doing plastic surgery on who got keyloids and then you were like, oh, shoot, this is an issue. Or do you just have people that showed up like can you help me with this? When we first opened our doors, we had people that just walked in and said, hey,

I've got a keiler. You know, the most common place for a brother having a keyloid is in the back of his neck, because you know, we shave our heads close. The barber get a little too close. They go a little too close. In this the hair follicles shrink below

the skin. As those hair follicles are growing back, or the hair is growing back, it curls because we have curly hair, it creates an ingrown hair, and that ingrown hair creates inflammation that then leads to this big key lloyd and so um, yeah, these those that's the most common sight for men. And imagine trying to sleep on that. Imagine trying to sleep on that every single night you are sleeping on a rock. Wow, that can also be used,

I mean I would. So that's like an advocacy issue for people especially, Like I said, I didn't know that other people of color experienced key lloyd NG, but I've seen for black women and again in my family, it's an issue, and it's almost like you know, it's it's like a it's like a it's like something where I feel like my sister, at some point in her life, she probably dealt with a little bit of insecurity, you know, just because she has key Lloyd's or could not do

certain things, always had to have the clip on earrings. But you know, of course now she's like, hey, it's right here, she's you know, she's cool. But she always said to me, are you sure you cut? Like let's check it, Like it's a it's a worry, a concern for everyone that you would get these key Lloyd's, But I had no idea that people were getting them to

that extent. Wow, were you doing God's work. We're very honored to be able to care for our patients because the common theme amongst all of them is that they don't know where to turn they have these We had a patient yesterday who came from Buffalo said she went to twenty practices in Buffalo, even went to the Cleveland clinic, and no one wanted to treat her key lloyd. She had a key Lloyd in the pubic area, so she

was incredibly self conscious. This thing was quite large in their groin area, so she was very self conscious, didn't want to be intimate any longer. And she was just depressed, incredibly depressed, even contemplated suicide. And so she had nowhere else to turn, no other practice. But we at Lexington Play six certain are specializing in this disorder because we know that there's it's an underserved community that is adversely

affected by it. Children too, children as well. How many how many surgeries have you actually performed around I would say as far as in my entire practice of been practicing now for about twenty one years. I've probably done over ten thousand, maybe fifteen thousand, actually fifteen thousand cases, but we've done as a practice over ten thousand key Lloyds, Key Lloyd, Keyloyd. You don't even know how all other things you've done, but you know what you're You're so incredible.

And of course, um, the our director and strategists for street politicians is your beautiful wife, Miss kat Lene, who happens to be always over there, always Washington. Yeah, she looks damn good. I asked you all today. Y'all are working out like you guys are not even doing all the body stuff actually, like what isn't so much? You're going to yoga. I'm like, huh, I do a little

brotts though, you do? Yeah? You know. Yeah, my mom had she had a stroke and her arm she's they're trying to get it back and they use both tox shots and the doctor he's so fine, this nice doctor. He's like, you know, shoot, my mom, mom, and my mom's like he's single. So my mom's like, you need to go with me to to get my botox shots so you can see the doctor because he likes you. So we were like having maybe a marriage over both times.

But we didn't talk about people who go out of the country and they get surgery and then you know you're here about to cement all kinds of things, horror stories. Why don't you tell, you know, our listeners and viewers today, why that cheaper surgery out of the country might be much more dangerous. You know, you're not You have no idea what you're walking into. You may have had a friend that has gone there and did okay, But what happens when you go and things don't go okay? What

happens when you have an infection? Do you travel thousands of miles back in a situation where you really shouldn't even be on an airplane? You don't. And so it's yes, you can get a lot of surgery done for very cheap, but you may be getting operated on by someone who is not a doctor. You don't know what's going to happen in your recovery period. Are you going to have a complication that needs to be addressed. Who had been in the United States is now going to want to

take care of you. We've had lots of patients to try to come to us, and sometimes we're able to do things, and sometimes we say, you know what, it's this is not something that we really want to to delve into because we don't want to be further complicating an issue. So it's it's a scary time. We have. We've had patients that have gone away and come back and said that they've had now sexually transmitted diseases, yet they're not sexually active, So what's happening when they're asleep?

Who knows? It is incredibly dangerous. It's not something that we advocate at all. And even in the United States, we have a lot of these now chop shops opening up, these high volume, low priced places to have surgery that are often causing a lot of complications and causing a bad reputation for a lot of what we do in cosmetic and plastic surgery. Yeah, because it's gonna cost you a few dollars to get Dr. John, but you get right. So we're here in Park Avenue and we have we

have no black man on a Park Avenue. We have we have the highest quality of care that we can give to you. I want my facility to be able to take care of my parents, and so we have the best nursing care. We have the best post operative care, we have the best surgical facilities at all costs. You know, I wish my my employees would work for nothing, but they don't. Now we want you to stay price exactly

as it is. And trust me, Kathleen and all her projects that she works on, she needs you to keep your price exactly as it is because we're one of those projects that we're here begging every week. Cat please please please thank you again. We appreciate you. All right, So we have a friend friends to the show. We've got a lot of great friends that do a lot of great things every uh week. It seems like we

have someone that we really truly respect. And in this situation, I hate to start off with or let me not say, hey, I don't want to always start with introducing a woman or man by talking about their spouse. But you know that our big brother Dr Michael Eric Dyson, who's been on this show and who is someone that um and you know, I just I just love him down, we

both do. We've had debate conversations with Dr Dice and but what people do not always know Most people know, but some people don't know that the powerhouse that helps Dr Dison to be who he is is his wife Marcia Dyson, you know for sure. You know, the two of them serve on so many different councils and panels and in strategy rooms, UM, where people, you know, while Dr Dyson is there and everybody knows it and they're like, yeah, whatever you said. But they turned around, they're like, well,

what do you think Marcia? Because she's brilliant. UM. She is both internationally and here nationally respected UM and a renowned activist leader UM and a big sister to so many of us that are younger activists who are just sort of coming up. And I'll tell you the things about the Dicens is they are the realest people ever. Like they're not the types that are so they booge you down the earth though, because they booge So let me just give you a proper um introduction. Because you

do so much, uh. Marcia Dyson is the founder of the Women's Global Institute, a member of United Justice Coalition and Government and Public excuse me, and Government and Public Committee member for the Coalition of Hope. You do so

much international work, UM. And on this episode today we focused on and we've been focusing a lot on black health, and obviously, uh, you know, plastic surgery is one of those things that we talked with Dr Michael Jones about that, and he talked about Key Lloyd's and all all of

those issues. But there's an international crisis happening at the same time, and we have to make sure that we keep our audience and our supporters and listeners aware of things that we see on TV because we see it, we hear it, but we don't understand at all what's happening in Afghanistan and how it impacts us and how it just impacts people in general in this country and abroad. So dcor so, Miss Dyson, thank you so much for being with us today. Let's talk Marcia about what's happening

in Afghanistan. First of all, I want to thank you, my sweetheart, for having me on your show, and much success to you and your co host and your whole team. And as far as that bullgie down like I'm Chicago, but I always say I can be good with this, and I could be hood with this. It depends on how you roll up on me. Is how I just want to get that straight right. But you know what

I love about you, Tamica. We do work on social justice work here in America, but my whole world is my block, and when we look at Afghanist standard situation there, it really has an impact on all of American citizenry.

I'm teaching, of course at Fisk University on global leadership and culture diplomacy because I'm trying to tell the East to boys scholars that no matter what your education, dreams and aspirations might be, what your whatever your entrepreneur pursuits might be, in the future, we have to look at our foreign affairs like we do our domestic affairs and our relationship affairs with our soul called lovers, because it

is an affair. So in an affairs, how you get into it, but it's also how you get out of it, because we know that if you leave a woman or a man and they're kind of piste off at you, they're gonna be some scorn somewhere. We have been in Afghanistan more than the twenty years that most people believe that has told to us. I remember all the way back in the seventies having friends who were actually serving in Afghanistan as black young men in that particular region,

and we get into that region because of American imperialism. Yes, I have said the eye word under the auspices that that we had to safeguard that area. But we have to look at our global positioning in the relations ships that we have with our country on a real tip. If not, I'll be lying to you. But fast forward going to these twenty years, it was also our engagement was deeper because we were trying to recharge the investment of the advancement or to stop or block the investment

of communism or Russia's influence in that region. Right, this big great bear called Russia was the auspices into which we maintain our prescationing there in Afghanistan. So now fast forward ten years later and this administration's willingness to and most Americans, especially the military, wanted to tire of that particular region. The money that we poured into it, that we could have put into our schools, into our justice, social programs, right into our healthcare situations, that the waste.

But again, like I started, is how you in an affair, right, give him somebody a certain amount of days in that particular region. And I've worked all throughout the Middle East, been on the conflict of the water Lebanon and Syria during conflict, meeting with the Freedom Army, interacting with Livia with Caduti Son on creating democratic socialist societies. I know that time for them, it's not our same same time table.

So it's how we left it. And so when I tell my students why it's important that you look at your world and no foreign affairs, because not only are the money spent impact your future because you're gonna pay for that particular thing in your future taxes, right, but how your future gonna be in your lively because right now we left that country with an enemy who left us with the kiss that said deaf to America. You know, so we have the cript and blood things coming on,

and we put ourselves at a disadvantage. We extracted or subtracted our troops out of a region and that now we're back in that region on the peripheral at a disadvantage. So if we're looking at its season, we put ourselves

at a disadvent and so now we're there, right. I remember a conversation I had in two thousand eight was Senator McCain on Afghanistan and what he was telling me at that particular time because of my global interests and because of my work with United Nations and in other foreign UH groups around the world, right especially the Coalition of Hope, which by the way is UH consortium of active and retired military men around the world and women,

as well as global nonprofit organizations and global social activists. Is that the reason why we have to know what is going on in the world, because of how our policies impact us in our future. One Afghanistan will be the telling and I think the legacy that this administration is going to leave behind with our our our our our NATO pat right we're in now with NATO, but we left them stranded because they're also situated to be

more vulnerable than we are. And we have to look at that and disproportionately when we look at the first young people, the first armed forces members that were killed, they were children, mostly of color and under the age of twenty four. Our children disproportionately enlisted military services to be educated and have entrepreneur or career opportunities. So we have a vested interests and as we serve this country. But like again, what we have to say is why

we're there because so called Russian communism influence. But second, how we get out Now what I want to say about Coalition of Hope and the real reason and I'm getting very passionate about this, and I really thank you for having me on the show, is that we are being vetted by the Department of Defense and the State Department to actually go and to evacuate and rescue individuals that we have left behind. I'm really proud to say to Meka that we have rescued over eight hundred individuals

and have made safe over fifteen hundred in virtuals. Are these American citizens? These are Americans, and there are allies. And when you look at the women, the first we call them hbt s in military terms, that's highly valued targets. Anybody in the last twenty years who have befriended American citizenry, who have allied themselves to the agenda of America in Afghanistan. As Afghani's right, Afghans are highly valued targets. So it's the women who were educated, the women pilots, some of

them I'm told have been killed. Right, It's the women in music, It's the educators. Just this past week along the women who had the protests were beaten and the men who who photographed that protests were beaten and almost killed. And that's what we left behind. We thought didn't think about them. So it's not just our natal allies, it's the people who have given their lives to make sure that our spot in Afghanistan was safe. So we could say that we left a three hundred thousand armed um

Afghan military, but we left billions of military. Now there's gonna be used against us, right because we didn't think about that. And even though you train someone, it's like saying for any high school group, okay, and trained you, so you're going off and you get your pH d. No, you have to really look at what is lacking. And

that's not enough time. When you understand the region, when you understand the people, when you understand tribalism, when you understand the history fifty years long, it's just not about afghan So also, we've made ourselves vulnerable to the big giant countries who hate us. Russia and China. They were the first two countries who basically sold in two or recognized the Teleban as the regulated or the governance over Afghanistan. We should be shaken in our boots, right when we

think about those three countries. So what I want to inform people just in general, when we think about the women, the children, the vulnerability. The Taliban said a few weeks ago, women go to your houses, will deal with you later. I know what that means. Right, It's more than just covering up in a burke walk. Right, there's the lack of education, the freedom of speech, being able to travel without a male and sometimes even without So all I want to say to you is the world is at

our door. I'm asking for Haiti. I know there's work there. I'm doing work there. I know New Orleans and New Jersey American citizens are under siege right now. But this is American crisis that I want to expose to American citizens from a very grassroot level, that we need to be engaged wherever we can around the world. American citizen re regardless of our ethnicity and race, sexual orientation, or whatever the case may be, have always been the greatest

humanitarians around the heart. So I'm appealing to your listeners appealing he definitely appealing to because for me listening to you, like, I what about it? You know I've heard about Afghanistan

and taken. Now, you just brought up so many different dynamics that that we should really be scared at this point, like this ain't just you know, we left, Like basically what you said is that we left, you know, them under rule of people who actually don't like us, who are going to utilize that territory, utilize all of those things against us, And we left them, and we left the people there with a bad taste in their mouth against us, so they can utilize that against us as well.

And then we left some of our own people there that are going to be a threat to us, that is gonna be threats to them. So there's so many different dynamics when I listened to this. So basically we should have just never left, or we should have took more time. How do you what do you think it should have been a plant? Right? Well, let me go back to that conversation which I forget about with Sinnator McCain.

He told me even then when I questioned about it, because my concern was all of the block and minority of poor white chill drink going over to these dangerous areas fighting wars that we didn't start right, not really knowing the hitting agendists for these particular interests or unders mining in those particular areas. He said, yes, we we stayed there too long. We the the love affair has

been too long. But anybody who would take us out of that country is lying to us, or they're they're not they're not wise, okay, because he was saying, because when you make a mess, you have to make sure that we have some housekeepers there and I'm paraphrasing him to clean up the mess because it was so deeply in trenched that we should never leave. He said, it may not be over, but covertly we should always be there. And the signals to the telebon was that, oh, overly,

we're out of here. As soon as they got that was so right, they started their formation. It wasn't a Beyonce formation, but it was a formation that is now working against us and working against the allies that we had within the country, those in the particular region around round Afghanistan and our European partners, which we're now seeing our separating themselves and saying that America has not protected us. America has left even the European countries more vulnerable, and

they're on their own. So now are we are our own if we don't have them. And that's the reason why impact American citizenry are form affairs and foreign policies supersede our domestic policies because they could be the ones who take us out more than most American citizens understand and recognized. And why I'm teaching that to my students

that they fully understand that we are global citizens. We are governed not only by American regulations, but all these foreign pacts, some known and some not known, that would come back and bite us in our butt if they have not probably been a reason to waftable. And I was just gonna say, you know, we just are coming out of uh, the remembrance of September eleven, that was just a few days ago, and it makes me think of exactly what you said, that we're now creating more vulnerabilities.

In fact, I think I was listening to UM. I wasn't watching the TV, but I believe it was UH one of the directors and the seat within the CIA as they were preparing for Non eleven talking about the concerns around not just terrorism across the borders, but domestic terrorism that is UM instigated by external factors and so listening to what you're saying, it sounds like these things can be connected. Um and so it is definitely a concern. And if nothing else, we should be educated, We should

know exactly we should be We should know. So what can people do? Well? First, I would like for everybody go to the CEO h Air Care Afghanistan on go fund me and to make a contribution if you And but also I'm advise you as I advise my students and my friends. You know, I know, we like TikTok and we like you know, the the versus and all of that, but we really need to start reading our

foreign affairs policy. We really need to start looking at not just the personality of our elected officials, but those committees that they sit and start reading some of the information that is that impacts our everyday life, based on art form, our our foreign policies that are impacting us domestically, because it also talks about how the money is flowing and going. And remember that no matter what city you live in, state or or whatever, no matter your sorority

of fraternity, we are in this together. We are on this globe like a baseball floating into Earth and if it gets hit and make a home run, you know we're gonna fly off of this thing together. We are on this Titanic together, So we need to know what is on this ship. Who is the captain? Who are the captains? Right, It's not just one person, It's not just our p said that, it's a whole group of

leadership that impact our everyday life. So knowledge, like in everything to make or what you do on the street, you're not just doing it groping in the dark. You are informed when you are activating your social activism, no matter where it. Maybe I've seen you do it, but I also know that you have made a game plan. You are informed, you have a wise console, and that's what we need to do. Knowledge above everything. So can

I just want to ask one more question? And I know you gotta go, but I'm just because there's so much information. Some people are saying that this deal was signed by Trump before he left office to end to leave. People are saying his but to withdraw the truth. So how what was the process? Like, how did this come about that we just left the truth? What was the process? I think, first of all, you know, we have this

tendency to popularize and romanticize everything. Remember what the conversation I told you I had with sen it to a can to two thousand and eight. It's not personality driven. It's campaign written right. Everybody make their campaign promises and everybody want to scratch it off or erase it like on the talk About board, as if that ends at all. And sometimes you can't. Some things are in permanent marker and you just can't do it that easily. So I

won't say that it was just Trump. I did hear him saying how he was gonna extrapolate the people immediately, and again that would have been wrong. What we need is not these key cliches, not these sound bites. This is when we need to inform information and to do things right. And this is another thing I'm gonna say. The reason why I look what you guys are doing with your podcast because I know that you're the truth. We need our journalists to be able to have the information.

And I told my students, if Colin Powell was given the wrong information about the weapons of mass destruction, what in the hell you think you're getting right? This and this information and half truths will only get us half asked results. And it and and danger, which means that we're all burden. I told me we're in this urgency of now that we're all burton to really try to get depth into the truth and we don't can't no

offense to anybody. And I coined the term T E L E band the tele band versus the teleban, right the TV band TV sad. If you're getting stuff and you're reading off a teleprompter, nor offense to anybody. I want to say this that you're getting information that you haven't been able to research yourself and get it for more than one agency. Then your spewing and choose yourself. Like Michael always says, you invoked him to beginning. He

likes to uh phrase. The theologian Howard Therma says, you can take your cup to the Atlantic Ocean, fill it with the Atlantic ocean, but it's not all the Atlantic Ocean. This time and age more than any time of my eight decades living because I celebrate myself left birthday, because right queen. But this worriedness of the soul is crocking.

But that's okay. I got the future of my hope and young women like Tamika and you to make sure that my golden years are not lying continuously with the tears that I shared over the misinformation of the lack of information that young people are given because mostly technology. One thing I told my students if there's also if you're doing your research on the infinite finiteness of Google, you have not done your the infinite finite on that.

Listen and the infinite and finiteness of Google. And that's why you can tell doctor and perfect doctor, I can just sit there and listen to your talk all day. I'm telling you, y'all, you have such a way of words, but you have the words because you have the knowledge, um. And you have the knowledge because you've done the work.

And so I just want to thank you publicly, as I always say, for being a friend a big sister to so many of us, um, without judging us, and just being there, standing firm and you know, you are such a real one. And so what you're educating us

on in Afghanistan. You know I've been saying this quote almost every week on our show that at one point Dick Gregory said that you know, we as activists and leaders, you put on a pair of glasses and now you see the things that are not just what other people want you to see, but you know what is and then you have a responsibility to do something with it. And that's a big burden. But now that you've given us the burden, we certainly want to carry the message.

And I thank you so much for educating us on this crisis that's happening and they're talking about it and some people are paying attention, but our communities don't pay attention enough, and so we want to make sure that we get this info out there. Thank you so much. Adding me, I want you guys to come to Fisk University to we love to wed love to love you much. Thank you God. Probably so man Marcia dis First of all,

she's super smart. Like some stuff she was talking about, I'm gonna have to Quali back and be like break that down. She is phenomenal and she's a beautiful woman. No way, no way on guards black is different, is different, and she but she takes care of herself as well. Her husband's dope. Man. Just listening to her, like I get meserized just watching her, and then I'd be like, oh that's okay, I see right, Because they're both so brilliant but you know the thing about it, um and

I noticed is totally off the topic. But when I say, like he takes care of her as well, and he does. Definitely that's his wife. You see them all the time together. But she's so engaged in her own stuff. She's got her own LFE like she's not sitting around. In fact, she helps him and then goes about her business. She's not sitting around waiting on him at all to help

her feel like she's achieving. Right, She's an overachiever. She's teaching, speaking, organizing, sitting on boards, doing things and just being so active all the time. And that for me is such it's it's such mentorship about women, women in relationships and just women in relationship with yourself that you really do have to keep yourself going and not ever allow Um, you know, other people in spaces to make you because I've seen her leave spaces and go create some other dope stuff

like people want Marcia Dison. It's not the other way around, dope man. Just listening to her, Man once again shout out to her and information that she gave us about Afghanistan. She broke it down. So now I really paying attention, like before us always left aghanderstands messed up and you're here. But when you listen to her break now the consequences you know, abroad and right now inside of America and all those things is really serious, which rings me to

my I don't get it. You know our brother RV. Roland, you know who's definitely one of our you gotta have. He just got a new job. He's working with um Utah Jazz, you know, so shout out to Earth. But this is what he's now with this Earth. I know that he's a trainer's training for Utah Jazz right now, so shout out to him for that. But this is

something that he's really been passionate. But one of his brothers, you know, Julius Jones, not his somebody that he grew up with, he played ball with, who was also a basketball player. You know that he he sees as a brother. Julius Jones is being it's on death row right, you know. And and based off all things, information that somebody has came forward to admit to the crime that he's been convicted of. There's a lack of DNA, he was only nineteen,

he has an alibi. All of these things and he's been sitting on death row for twenty years, not giving a new heroing, not giving anything. And I just really don't get how things like that happen. How do you make a decision to take someone's life to end, you know, especially in this day and name, when DNA is clearing people and all, we're finding out every day that people

are being convicted of crimes that they shouldn't be. You know, some people that people are being overly sent and shout out to Dante mitche who just came home a couple of days ago. You know, what you're saying is that

people are being um over sentenced over scientists. So when you look at these situations and now this man is scheduled to be executed in less than a month next month, Yeah, yeah, I thought for some reason, yes, next month, this man is scheduled to be I really just don't get how a good conscious, good faith in the name of justice, that you ex acute someone who did a crime supposedly that you there there is so many different elements that

says there's a possibility that there's the slightest possibility that he didn't commit this crown and you're scheduled to take this man's life. You know, you you haven't said, you know what we want to were gonna give you life, a prisondent, give you an opportunity evidence if we give these you know, hearings and things, because there there is a possibility that this man is actually innocent, you know,

and they're about to take this man's life. But I really just don't get that for the life of me. You know, death penalty is one of those things that's very very strange to me, you know, especially when there's not clear and undoubted evidence that somebody did something that is even worth being put to death for. If you can't completely there, if there's any shadow of a doubt that the person committed these crimes and you're taking their life,

it's just inhumane for me, you know. So I really just don't get it, and I don't even know how to say it. Man, We're going to continue to advocate for him, you know, write letters for him. Go to my page. You know, she'll probably see the post where we just said about Julius Jones. For some reason, I

thought it was three months. I didn't realize it the month it's literally next month, literally October, oh, because the first, Yeah, I know why because the first this the other post that we put up was two months ago and it was coming in three months, and then today we're talking about it now being a month while and you know the thing about and I'm sure I know Julius Jones has family. Obviously we support his family, but I feel like,

for he's been fighting so hard. I mean, they did, um the long Walk, which was I forget how many miles, things like over a hundred miles in protests of this execution. Um, they've been trying to bring awareness through every every every every you know, pers sin and every avenue possible to

bring attention to this situation and stop the execution. And UM, I think that I feel worried that if it happens, that earth will never be the same, you know that mentally, he'll never be the same because he's really fighting for a man and speaking to Julius and listening to you know, somebody that's on death row. Uh that what is the movie that um happens in the town that my mother is from? Oh boy? Uh, Jamie Fox plays the man

on on death row, Mercy Mercy. So that movie takes place in a in a town called Monroe, VL, Alabama, which you know, Um, that's the town that my mother was raised in, a town that I actually was raised in every summer and so mercy, uh. And there are other stories to kill a mock and bird. All of

that is from this particular town. And UM, this man, uh, Jimmy, who's on death row, we watch his story and the story of others who are in those cells next to him that are about to be executed, most of them for things that, as you said, maybe they should receive life in prison. But for someone to believe that they are the executioner, that their God to take their lives,

I don't know. And you know, I've had to ask myself, especially with Teri's dad being murdered, you know what I have supported the death penalty, And my honest answer is no, I don't support the death penalty at all, Um, no matter how heinous the crime. Maybe I just don't support the death penalty. And that's tough because if somebody raped my daughter or something like that, I don't know, like at that point I might have to revisit how I feel.

But understanding what I know about this system, well, I'm just saying I don't have First of all, my son is twenty two at this point. I hope he doesn't. I just wonder if I had a child right now, hopefully I would have a dought it was as a person. But I get your point because and so daughters the same with you do something to myself. That's right, daughter's son. That doesn't matter. So you know, I just think about it,

that happened, where how would my my opinion change? And yet I still have to say I don't support the death penalty. So you know, our prayers to Julius Jones and his family, um and these days before possible execution. And it's just like I'm Shaun King is also advocating for a man who's on death row. It just seems like this is such a terrible It's something I really looked every day we see where you know the system

has failed and made mistakes. And when you know that the system is as flawed as our system is, when you're senting someone to death, you know, knowing that there's a possibility that they could they could be wrong, you know, it's just to me, well, we've we've got to have we've been doing black health and we should continue to get back to that, but I think next week we should be talking to Dante, Dante Mitchell, do we Julius, we should probably we should do that, but we should

also have like Joe take eat our sister who was at the a CP for years. That's what she did, abolishing the death penalty. Um, she did a lot of work there. So I think those are good shows for us to focus on. So hey, team, we've got a bunch of shows already playing. So um. That brings us to the end of this show that we covered a lot. We went from one end of the spectrum to the net.

It's never never a dull moment. Shout out Tomorrow, Sea Dyson, Dr. Michael Jones, Michael Jones, you know, don't get too much. But we don't like it. Just I'm trying to tell you, don't get six. But if you've got six butts in one leg, we don't like it. It's not appealing. We don't think it's cute. We're not sexy. It looks stupid. It's not really a good thing. So if you're doing it for you, cool, But no man is a factor to a woman who has six that's a that's a

bold faced line. It is absolutely, because there's a meme that's going around right now, and I'm not saying that all women that's got big BBL booties are wards. Okay,

so let me just give that little uh disclaimer. But the meme says, I spent my whole life trying to be a good girl to find out that men actually like holds and so but quote unquote the word the H word that w but the professional in the hood is h you using the professional world the holes you talking about quote unquote that you said, because I don't get sta the holes you told about ones with six but two that's not true. That's not true. So I

don't believe all of them are. But I just want you to understand the ones that I see on the internet, and you see the women shaking their heads that are getting passed from one man to the next. They got b b B b b BL Okay, don't get it twisted, And they're getting passed from one because well that's okay, but guess what, But guess what they maybe they may be getting past, but they'd be getting past. And the ones that got little b bbs, our little b bbs.

You know, we're still trying to find him. You don't want, I don't want. Are you trying to find a dude? That's because I get me a b BL and see if that helps me with my quest to find me a husband. Going to but I am gonna get this man. If you've got three as in one leg. The question is going to be the time of it is too much when it's sitting up back, Sis, it don't look good, Sis. And once again to end this show, we love you. We're still the number one show in the world. Number one, right,

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