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people don't necessarily understand everything that they're consuming. And I think this space gives us an opportunity to really deconstruct and you know, dissect some of the things that we see happening in pop culture and hip hop culture, um, you know, and entertainment and business. Of course we're talking about money, right, economic empowerment, community engagement, criminal justice. There's so much happen in politics, and we just want to be able to break get down. And I think Street

Politicians in itself embodies exactly what we mean. We do the work on behalf of our people. You have to be folks alike. I'm not political. If you live every day in this society, you're political. You live in a political life. Um. But we want to be able to bring information to you in the street, you know. I think us being actually being in the movement, on the

front lines of this movement. We see things from a different perspective, and us definitely having connections to the streets, to the hip hop community, to pop culture, and being able to infuse all of those things that once gives us a different, a unique point of view that's not really out there right now. A lot of you know, there's a lot of information out there, and a lot of people don't know how to get it on, you know, they don't know how to um digest it or they

don't know how to break it down. I think that we come from an unique perspective because we know how to throw on some constructions and then we go on to the boardrooms and then we're on the front lines of the movement, and we can give you all of these perspectives at the same time and pretty much bridge that gap between the culture and and and explain why politics are importing for our communities because a lot of people in our communities don't believe that they should be

involved in policies. But the podcast is not just about politics. We want it. We're gonna have fun because it's you know, even your fun, it's political and even your finest And that brings me to something I was just thinking about. It happened a few weeks ago in the news. You know, it was about when the NBA players. I don't know if you yeah, I sure didn't. You know, you always have to help us understand. So what happened because Lebron

something was going on with Lebron. It was me Lebron was the person who was acting to speaking on the happen, but it was the China had did some expedition with the NBA players went over to China, and it was supposed to be about press day. It was supposed to be a lot of things because there was some type of merger with the NBA and Channel and then you know the protests that were happening, and one of attention

to that and one of them. Let me get this exactly right, because it was one of the executives in the NBA. When you look a look at what he said, who was it. Daryl Maury is his name after his tweets supporting Hong Kong's protesters. The Houston Rockets general manager was the subject of a pro China campaign a selection of tweets at Daryl Maury, many of which contains in M S l okay, y'all properly know what that is and I don't, which loosely translates to your mother is dead.

So then what the Lebron said. So what happened was at that point Lebron Lebron statement, the executive wasn't knowledgeable about what was doing, you know, and what they were saying. What that Lebron is one of them I was spoken at. He utilizes this platform to speak again all kinds of injustice. I mean even we were able to get Lebron's where the I can't breath t shirts for Justice Leagues protests during the Eric Garner protests. So yeah, I mean he's

been really really supportive of the movement. He's been supportively moving and people felt that in some ways the pocket because you can't say that it's okay for you to be vocal about issues that affects you that you are passionate about and then go against someone who has different views on another subject to be passionate about those because it doesn't feel that you know or because you know the result of it ended up in something that probably

negatively affects you. So I got I understood both front of you and not been Then from Lebron when he talked about it again, he said he was insane, that he was wrong or that he was wasn't informed about the issues that were going on China, but he was saying that he wasn't informed about what they had to feel, why they were He didn't think he made sense for him to speople about that while they were on the story, and they will have to deal with the negative effects.

So in that that regarded, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like this, it's politics and everything. These are guys that wanted were to play basket. So he's saying you should have waited to say that until we came exactly. But I'm trying to tell you that's what when people is a lot of a lot of those athletes, with the exception of the Guard are not really even into politics.

They don't. But but the problem with that where I take issue, And of course I didn't read it, and I don't know all the details, but I do know that every time it's a good time to save what's right. Number one. And then the second thing is that if the gentleman had waited, the owner had waited until they came back, it wouldn't have been a news story. Purpose of him saying it while they were going was so that he could they could get that he could get

the type of attention. And I'm sure that the protests is the people on the street they appreciated that he spoke up on their behalf. So you know, like you said, to catch twenty two situations, but also which we deal with all the time in our movement spaces. It's like, before you actually say something that impacts my life, we may need to have a conversation about how this is going to play out. And we argue about this all the time. And that's but that's that's where you know,

that's where it is. What it? What is it that you're trying to do? Are we are we champion? Are we promoting that people should be outspoken about issues that affect them when they feel that they need to talk about it, or we're saying that there has to be a sort of time as you talk about it, or do I have to say in a way that makes people comfortable, Because I don't think change comes from comfortable.

I don't think me saying something that that's politically correct, that makes you feel comfortable, it's really going to do anything. But it's all it's about balance, and it's also understanding

who's the ultimate enemy? Right? And then how are people who are caught up in the mixt of it going to feel about what it is that you're saying when in fact they want to be on your side, they want to be with you, And so if you're making comments that ultimately marginalize them or make them feel a certain type of way, you have to be thoughtful, like we all have to be thoughtful about how we enter, um, you know, certain conversations, or you know how what our

our discourse is like around different people's issues. We need time as leaders to be able to process what it is that we're saying, and again, who are all the beneficiaries and or people who will be hurt by whatever

we're saying that. I work for a very powerful civil rights leader for a long time, and one of the things that I know is that before making decisions, even if his gut instinct led him back to his original thought his kitchen cabinet, when he would go to come to some of us and throw around different ideas about a topic that he wanted to address, only helped to develop his point. It only helped him to be able to see the perspective of everybody that's in the room.

So if he's gonna talk about l g B t Q issues, you know, you before you speak on it, you might need to educate yourself from someone who is actually in that community. So I think that's that's that's that's no brainer. I think that you speak about people or or issues that don't directly pertain to yourself, that you're not directly impacted by or or directly member of the community that you're speaking of, and you definitely should

have out. But if there are issues, like we have a lot of time when they're issues that directly affect men, directly affect I was getting ready, I was getting ready. I'm so glad you started it so I could talk about the male ego. And the dangerous bottom line is if there are issues and I believe that you believe I'm almost I am a man in every every essence of regard of the world. So when they are issues that you know regard man and and you know, then I think that I should be able to speak freely

on a man's behalf. Yeah, I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but I do think that you have to also decide. I mean, we all when we use social media, which is a place that attracts a lot of negativity, trolling, fake accounts and all of that, we have to decide what's the best for them to get our message acros us because if we take something to social media that in our hearts, minds, and you know, and our soul,

we think we're saying the right thing. We're talking into a particular audience, but yet it's in the context of things that have been that folks have been being dragged about, and they actually their careers and other things have been impacted by these things. You have to actually be thoughtful, careful, and the way in which you say so, I mean,

we we we get into this all the time. It's like, how how you approach the Internet is very very very serious, and sometimes the best thing to do is not to approach it at all, because you know, the thing I told Tariq, my son, is that everything you're thinking does not need to go online. And that's something that it took me a while to figure out. Sometimes I'll be ready to go on people's comments and say all types

of things. And then one day I noticed that media outlets we're picking up what I said in folks comments, and I was like, Oh, they're actually watching me, so I need to be careful. You know. That brings me to a lot of people said that I'm too hard, your obsessed, you keep talking about Kanye. We just need to leave it alone. And I just and I think that people don't understand the moment that we don't understand that.

You know that the media is very probably like the media controls like it controls our minds and controls how we walk and we talk, how we address what we think. And if somebody is constantly using platforms for millions of people following them two two give you rhetoric that is detrimental to our society constantly, Well they don't think that's the problem. They don't think it's detrimental his his rhetoric in some ways is correct, just like Canda's own. Some

of the things that Kanye is saying. It's important, you know, we gotta stop voting Democrat all the way down the ballot because that's not working for us. Now he's talking about industry and bringing I no, no, no, I'm just saying he's talking about bringing factory is in you know, sort of agriculture, if you will, an idea about that to the US. All those things are important. What you're saying is that it's embedded in language or in a in a particular idea that is problematic for our community.

And in fact, what he doesn't even know, maybe he does know, is that it's it's really being um it is being shared with us through the lens of white supremacy, which is even more than But that's that is My whole point is that he doesn't because he was very aware he understood that Bush didn't like black people. If he was very aware, he's always been adamant about racism in his country. Prior to the last couple of years, he's been very vocal and understanding the things that's going

on this culture. When he went into Sway and he was talking about you don't have the answers, where his whole position was that the white supremacy in itself does not allow him to reach past for a certain seal that he can't be me, he can't be Steve Jobs because they won't allow and that he's created all of these things. He's the mind behind all these things. But there are certain things elements within this country will not allow him to get past roadblocks. He's very aware of that.

So what he's utilized now, he said, I can't beat him swarming to join so for for his financial game, he decided to sacrifice our approach. He decided to tell us lies about the Republican Party was the one who did It's not not telling the truth about this is not the same Republican Party that he speaks up that the Abraham Lincoln was not the person who we slay, that the Republican Party then was the anti slavery party that changed to the Democratic Those are not conversation that

he's having. He's saying, don't vote for Democrats what they've been doing for the Republicans. I can love Trump. I don't care these races. I've never made a decision based on just being black. When you make these when you start making these statements and you start saying that in front of black people follow you, who believe that you would for our liberation and for our poacher, and then you start to intentionally lie to that because you want

to benefit. I cannot just sit by and say, can's gonna let let him say this some millions of people every day, and everybody else is just gonna go along. He decided we're gonna do Sunday service today because now I know y'all into the church. I know I can sell the church whenever when y'all said, I'm not invited to the picnic no more, I can do Sunday service and everybody's gonna come because they're gonna say Ranie trying to get Guardians life. And now I can sell an

album called Jesus King. But last week it was I'm a sick funker like my dick sell. You know. So when I understand, when I understand the reality of that, I'm not going to be slad. I'm not I'm not gonna say you know what, I'm just gonna fall back and let somebody else because nobody else is gonna talk about it. I'm not gonna did not talk. But okay, if people have been talking about it, people have they

shrug it off. Yeah no. But but but you are a hundred percent right about one thing that that the system that is uplifting. Kanye knows that black people love spiritual music, you know, church, God, Jesus, the whole that narrative, um that we we follow. And certainly I believe in love and am a a a devout follower of Jesus Christ. Right, So that's so I agree with him in that perspective that we need Jesus in our lives. The problem is,

I don't think we're following the same god. There's something wrong with the God that he has come into contact with, because it has not well exactly, and so he would see that, right, And and that's two different gods. Because the ones that our people were singing about in the field was a liberating god. It was a god that understood that at times we might have to actually strike our master down in order to get free. The God

that Kanye is singing about is the god of oppression. Um. Is the god that says that the massive well, it's the god a cat feelings. As long as you have money, we don't even have to worry about the rest of the things. We don't have to worry about the people that at the border. We don't have to worry about the racism that that our presidents evoking in within this country. The division we don't got to worry about that. He's told us how to get some money, so let's figure

out how to get money and everything else. Yeah, I mean that that's something that my soul personally, it can't nobody else is gonna talk. Everybody's gonna laugh about. But we also have to remember, uh, you know, how sick our people are. There are a lot of sick people in our communities that really don't understand nuance. They really don't have not done the research. And that's not our fault.

Like we weren't taught, and we were in many ways blocked from the knowledge that we need in order to understand all of what's happening around us, right, and so we're sick people that are are are We We have a quest for knowledge, but it has not been provided in the ways in which is should. So if you don't understand your history, then you are are. It's really impossible for you to be able to understand all the elements of what's happening around you, especially to your point,

the media. Every minute it's coming with something new and you're trying to be follow But you do know, Jesus walks, you know that you know all the good gospel songs, you know those, and so if it's coming through a musical genius, then it sounds right, especially when we want to say I'm not political, so it's and and this is very political what Kanye is doing. It's really dangerous.

But I think in terms of a different perspective around what you're saying, that you have to be able to challenge Kanye because he is directly and he is a direct influence UM for our people. That is very very damaging. What he's doing right now is very damaging. It is. But listen, but this might change the topic a little bit, but I think it's important. This is my thought process on what you see in terms of people saying too hard on Kanye or you know, why are you so obsessed?

I think the issue is um and we talked about this all the time sometimes. I think for you because of the fact that there's so much ship bullshit that's going on in our society where you kind of feel like you have to be a voice to try to to check different things that's happening so that your followers and other people will have and and and a different voice that shows them. So either either will say it's the right way or a different way that's probably better

for our communities. You find yourself in that all the time because of the fact that you are constantly having to engage in these conversations. It seems to some folks and sometimes to me as well, that you have become critical all the time of too many different people. And I think what you have to do, which we've we've

been discussing, is pick your battles. Sometimes we should go out and challenge different things, but sometimes we might have to actually miss some ship right because people, for me, they say, Okay, you're angry, because I feel like I'm even every speech that I used to make, I was yelling and screaming at the world, and eventually I had to figure out that sometimes that tone was not necessary

nor was it winning our people over. So I just think, especially if you don't I know that because I don't agree what you said that that tune was winning our people, I believe that that yelling that you quote quote unquote yelling is what Galvin naze millions of people and me people feel like they had somebody that spoke on behalf

of them. I think the people that pussy put around and they say the politically correct say I don't want to yell because I don't want to see unruly and I don't want to come for us as the angry black person. They don't have that back. I think the fact that I'm willing to fight any advertary that votes against my moral tumping that my people follow me for that reason. But there's but balance is key. But I

don't balance is balances balances that there should not. I don't believe that you should participate in four or five days of dialogue back and forth about an issue with whomever it is, or every time they pop up in the news there's a response, and then on top of that in the comments, going back and forth arguing where every troll that comes along. I think that's I don't want to but I think that with my connix, he

who controls the news controlled the people. So if they continue to put out you that is lying every day, is lying, is directly lying when you start trying damaging. But the line is there, could you not tell the truth about somebody? Is able to create a narrative and pointing into your brain it becomes factual, but it's not actually factually. Then that's a problem. So I'm not going to lie. So I'm going to be the person that, yeah,

well no, you gotta think about that. We're not going to just let's just go like IM sorry, I'll be back to discuss this again anyway. So I guess that brings us to the last topic, which is really important

to me. It's really near and dear to me. And I've been struggling so much with this Harriet film, and not just the film, but just the moment that we're in and how Harriet the film seems to be sitting in the middle of the complicated, sort of complex nature of just like the pushing pull of and um, I feel like we saw the film until Freedom. Our organization, UH did a screening, not a screening, but we hosted folks going to Magic Johnson Theater and I thought it

was incredible. I thought it was incredible. Now their films there. A friend of ours who went said that it was the acting was for perhaps if you're a filmmaker you may see different things, but in terms of need the naked eye, just someone who likes to be entertained and also like education and information. I thought Harriet was great. Do I think it was perfect and that every single character it actually existed, and that the story was told

um to what happened in her life. No, And I also I think that the only person that could have informed them on how to be exact and accurate would have been a person who dead, and that's Harry and to this for me was the first time that I watched a black woman really portrayed as a like for me, like I've watched a lot of different moves with beside

or they supported this, it's not there. I'm saying this wasn't the first time that I watched a black woman portrayed as a superhero in mind, and then she was not decide to kick to the man. She was she was her own superhero. She but not strengths from within her that other men didn't even that. And this was something that was complictly wealthy. But that's one of the one of the things we heard that we're not properly That's what I want to bring. No, I want to

bring two of our biggest liberates. And you know her and you look at that and you see the count behind when you look at how the liberation movies that that put us in position where we were liberated got the most flat what they found everything bad out about the people who played the roles, who directed the roles. They figured out everything wrong accurate. It's not saying that they weren't accurate. But I'm just trying to tell you that for years, we've watched twelve years to play. We

watched every we see. Did you we seen all of these movies that didn't have the same content, that didn't you know, uplift us and make us liberate and nobody found anything wrong with you. But we we constantly dissected and and then it was and then what happened with both of these movies. Both of these movies divided black men because if you look at if you look at the black women were out well and it had to

me and I wasn't sun. They pointed out that, you know, the rap the rate never actually happened within within history, and that's something Wait a minute, let's be careful, because we're talking about two different things. No, No, weal the issue that turn his story Nat Turner and the woman. No, Nate,

Nate Parker, Nate's I know what you're saying. I'm just saying because people, I'm talking the movies that didn't happen with movie, the Gabrielle Union, the parts the road she played where she was raised and her husband had to sit there, that that was an accurate part of history, that that you can't go through our history anywhere and see that that that happened Durman during this we're saying

it could have. It definitely happened to slavery. So they pointed those things out, just like they pointing out within you know, we didn't know. So they been there so many inaccuracies in terms of, you know, what actually happened during in her story. And what we're saying is that some of the first of all, this is not a documentary. It is a movie. It is not an autobiography. It is a movie, and it is based upon her story.

And so I think that the illustrations in the film, we're there to bring forth some of the challenges that we faced at that time and to day. So the black slave catcher, maybe he didn't have a gun, his name definitely wasn't bigger long, and he certainly wasn't running around just living in a while without being checked by

his own slave master. Even if he was free, there still was a you know, a hierarchy if you will, and he certainly wasn't at the top of it, right, but I think introducing him in the film gives you an example of how black people were working with the slave master to help try to catch exactly exactly to try to catch um uh, the black Moses being a

Harriet Tubman. And again it applies to today because we worked with black slave catchers all the time, people who were supposed to be a part of the movement and and and in fact they're seeking us out on behalf of the oppressor and willing to turn us over. So you know, you could be literal. You can be literal as you want with especially if it's the menory. Let's be literal. But this was a movie that had the ability to give us messages that we need to pass

down to our children. So a kid that is sitting there watching this film and nine to ten years old who sees the Black Slave Catchup has the ability to say, I don't want to be that. I never want to be the person that turns against my own people. That

to me was the point of it. And by the way, because people said there's no such things as black slave catch up at that time, and someone on my social media page, which I thought was funny, was it was was folding that Harvard, the Harvard Trust said there was no such thing as black slave catches. Yet the University of Alabama, the chair of their history department says, not necessarily in the South, but definitely as it got closer to the north where more people would free, there were

slave black slave catches. And I just think that I choose to believe the university about what I wanted to. It is divided. We are at a very crucial time. We we can't we don't have the ability, we don't have the luxury to be divided, especially about people that we we know throughout history that that wasn't that tournament

to this liberation. We know what harrietsament to liberation. So for us to allow specific or small parts of things to completely erase them their moments in history, their moment where the children can be introduced to their legacy, to even do more research, because now we understand that with these movies they give, they say I want to I want to learn about it, because we we we study for condom Conda don't exist. You know what I'm saying,

There's no there's no historical reference for wa Conda. We can't go look up what Conda. These kids can't say, well, that actually happens. So when we have real life that all type of things that never could happen never will happen. But we need to tell me we can't fly from one mountain to the other. We can't with what's what they had. I mean, I love, we ain't got no brain, None of that exists. But we went out in droves for that. But we know that black Moses existed. We

know that that turning exists. We know what they gave their lives for this liberation that we that we are able to enjoy right now. So I just think that black men and black women, we we gotta come to some round tables because I see where the problem is. And I'm not saying that both sides have legitimate issues. We can't. For the moment for that, for um Harriet Tubman to be seen as a superhero was bigger than me saying that big It just for me, And there

are so many lives out there. People are talking about a white savior. I'm wondering we were watching the same movie. Well, what what what I've got from people. Was that from some people In perspective, it is really because your perspective if you go, because if you're going with a perspective that you want to see something on, you can find something wrong. So people did for me when I looked for the white slave owner who who was her slave

owner never existed to me. He was probably one of the most died bother the white man that I've ever I didn't see him. I didn't see anything as a savior. I've seen when he killed Bigger Loan, because Bigger Loan was about to shoot her. I've seen him as no, you're nothing to kill because you're not even worthy. I want to take her back. I want to torture back to my white mother. I want to take your burner

in front of the in front of the town. I want her because he told her when she pulled out a gun, he said, they're gonna they're gonna tear and feather you. They're gonna burn, They're gonna rip you limb from lift. So this was his goal. He didn't want to know you ain't because you were Nigga too. I don't want you to get well that you're not. The point is he was shown by him killing Big Along, it was to show you how you're disposable. I'm not

gonna say big he said. My father told me that he was like a pig that eventually you have to sell it or you gotta eat it. Think that's the spoilers because people need to see the movie. Bottom line is to me, he killed her. He killed this man because he probably was always gonna kill him, and he wanted to take her back and do unfathomable things. And let me just say, when she talks about life or what she talked about, uh, freedom or death to me,

big a long. If if the storyline was that that she was captured and that her slave master was actually able to take her back, she probably would have been would have preferred being killed by Big Alan because I would definitely not want to go back with him, So for him to shoot her would have probably been fine. But anyway, m h, start crying, Look go out down, mhm,

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