Created Out Of Love

to count the conversation the Lord that the Lord. See how I got my black owned shout out to actively black the black fist in the air and my home girl tiff Lux with hermogul loading. So, you know, just trying to support all black, black owned, black owned this yep, I have my I Love being a Black woman hoodie on just of black lives Matt No Black women's lives matter, Uh, folks, I see a lot of people are picking up on it. You know a lot of people are purchasing the brand

shout out to assist the Jamility Davis. She started it with one sweatshirt T shirt that had the names of iconic black woman and I'm proud to be one of those named um you know on that shirt and she's now grown it into a global brand. Uh. And so this is the brown version. But I have this shirt and another green or the sweatshirt and a green that is totally popping. It's just dope, you know. It's just just black people doing good things. And I have a

duffle bag from Actively Black that I love. Um, it's actually real high quality leather, like a real nice stuffle bag. I got a book bag that I love, but Actively Black quality. You know, shout out to Athlete Black. Keep doing it, man, They've got quality. Quality. We talked about quality, but they got that. Yeah, that's what's up. You gotta you know, if any brand needs to have quality, because I don't care who it is. I don't care if it's whoever the c D to the t P, all

the way down to Barbary. I wanted to be quality, right like, I need every single thing that I've purchased to have quality. I don't want the scenes to be out of place. And by the way, a lot of these major brands, they stuff ain't got that. Mother, It's not worth like this at right. Yeah, the zippers aren't. And I'm talking about eight nine dollar products or shirts and whatever. This ain't right. That ain't right. The seams are off. It's all types of trash that they're selling

out here. But I do know, unfortunately, the way we operate in society, unfortunately, is that we're hard around. So if you are somebody who's out there it's like trying to do your thing, just know that quality matters, definitely does. What is happening in the news, you know, you have you seen the O. B J situation? You know, I'm triggered around airlines and people, you know, being thrown off airlines,

and I was on vacation. So basically what happened, you know Odell Beckham Jr. For those who don't know, O. B J is um a couple of weeks a while ago he had an incident that happened on the plane. So it was a while ago. This is yeah, it's the same situation. And now your body came from one of the officers who came on the plane has been released and it shows pretty much that Karen and Ken, you know, got this man kicked off a plane for pretty much is being tired. You know, the officer came on,

they spoke to him. He seemed he was you know, he was alert. He told him what was going on, and they insisted some two of the stewardess insisted that he'd be taken off the plane. They didn't see why. They said, well, he's he's conscious. He seemed that he just looks tired, looked like he was tired. He was trying to say he was there. He didn't have his pants on this, the officers said. The officers like, he just looks something. He's like, he looks fine to me.

I don't know what it is, like, what do you want me to do? Well, I can't do anything. If y'all want to remove then somebody has to say it, and they have to do has to it's a process that has to go. So they literally had to take everybody off the plane because he wasn't leaving, so they had to deplane. And this is all for Karen and Kenny. The man was sleeping, literally, oh it was. Their whole complaint was that he was sleeping and they couldn't wake

him up to put his seatbelt on, whatever whatever. And they were so mad at the fact that he was sleeping that they called somebody to come over. They checked on him somehow, they woke him up and didn't look

like they had a hard time waking him up. But they also said something I read somewhere because I didn't watch the video, but I read that they said his pants was hanging down or something pants on and they said he didn't have any pants on when we look at the the overse like when, yeah, he has his pants on now, so I don't know, oh, in the conversation and they said, well, and you could tell it was being very obnoxious because she called him a baby.

She said, well, this the baby. The baby doesn't have any pants on, the baby, and he's like so he looked, he said he has his pants on there, and I don't like they really did. You could tell that these officials didn't really see will. The big deal was like you in first class, you're sleeping on the plane, you tie it like you know, Sometimes you don't, you don't respond too much. Sometimes you just tired, you know. And

they said, well, we went him off the plane. We have five hours, and nobody wants to deal with what a man sleeping, if he was sleep, what do you have to deal with hour? What airline was this. I don't even know what airline it was. It really doesn't say what airline it was, but whatever airline it was, it wasn't a good look for them. It was not a good look, you know. So but I was say him, I'd sue the pants or the pants. And then it was other passengers that were angry at him because they

had to get off with him. Yeah. Then one of them. He started arguing with them, like you think I'm getting off the plane for you, like you think you think I'm definitely I probably get off for anybody else, but you I'm definitely not, you know. And it was frustration, man, like, come on, you're trying to get home and wherever you're coming from, and you're on the plane and you gotta go through all this because somebody's feelings was hurt or whatever.

You know, It's just it's power tripping. It is, man, it's customer service and power trip and that this you know, this is a lot going on. Man, It's just I don't get it goes to the same thing, but it's just so much, so much power tripping, and they have it was American allies. Lord, he looked okay, very interesting, very interesting, but um shout out to Odell Beckham Man, get your lawyer, get you good old. I know you don't need the money, but get it anyway. Not the

fifty cent. Fifty apologized to Meg patrolling her. You know, he did a um he did an interview with Big Boy. Yeah, big boys my god man. Like every time I see he always shows me mad. Last time seemed he hugged me, said I love everything that you do. Boom boom. I love Big Boy man he and I love the way he does interviews, and I just love where he carries himself. He's always been dope individual. But on fifty was up there and he was talking about um, how he was

trolling mag. He was one of the people, you know what, saying she was lying or whatever, and he said he wanted to apologize, you know, based on what he was hearing online, like most of the people was getting, you know, the fake news. That what he said. Nope, nope, no, no, that's what he said. He said, Okay, no, that is not what he said. He said he saw the interview with Gail King right when he heard her he said

other things. No, he said, he said, when I watched the interview with her, and Gail King, and she lied about the sexual relationship. After that, everything that happened, it just I just started to believe she was lying, So any other thing that happened, I just thought she was lying. So I'm just saying because and by the way, I don't think denying a sexual partner rises to the level

that these people are jumping up and down about. So I'm not trying to say I just know that they would love to be able to say that we're providing either bits and pieces or you know, not telling the full story of what happened in order to you know, only uh, support one aspect. So I just want to make sure nobody's gonna say that we didn't tell the

story exactly like you said. Yep, he said. He so the Gail King interview, and when he heard her say that she didn't she didn't have a sexual relationship with Tory, he said she was lying. But then after hearing the the jail conversation with Kelsey and Tory, at that point, you know, he came to the conclusion that you know, he had and I just as a man, you know, and and for me, it's like it's a lot of other artists that I think, oh that woman apology, Who've

been silent? You know, who've been silent? Who do under the bus? Who says ship? Who who added to the pilon on social So it's like I think, just understanding. Just as a man, you know, you realize you're wrong, you realize you made a mistake. You know, and your mistakes and your wrong doings harmed another individual. Just say sorry, you know, so shout out to fifty for that. After you listen to you can make up whatever you want.

Anybody who wants to make up a store about how nah, he could have been saying this, and he could have been saying that, and all of the stuff that they're saying. You know, cool, do what you want. Anybody with good sense that's trying to any okay, excuse me, common sense, not even I don't even know if it's I don't know what you I don't even know whatever you need. When you listen to that tape, you know what the

hell that man is talking about. And that Fury knew what was going on too, and they were not fooled by the chatter of the sidelines, and they're doing his Tory Lanes legal team is doing exactly what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to file for a new trial. He has money, he's they're supposed to try to get a new trial. They're supposed to appeal. Right, this is process, right, that's the you're gonna pell, you file, you put in emotion to to get a new trial or citicide diverdict.

The judge looks at it and says pretty none of it. Ten times they say no, we're not gonna do that. You know, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Here's what I will say. It's not this part that is to me. I think all these things that he's doing, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. The problem is that it should have never got to this point period. It should

have been handled from the beginning. And I believe that all parties involved, and we know because Meg tried to say that it was glass enough foot right, So all parties involved really did not want this situation to blow up in the way that they did. But ego ego is very dangerous, especially when your ego is being inflated by the idea that nobody really cares about a black woman. They don't she she was sleeping with this one. This happened,

that happened. The more to that information comes out, she's discredited and more than likely the world will ignore her and or and by the way, people who women at all women, but specifically Black women, who claim abuse great different things, you know, violence against them, they are It's very similar to how the criminal justice system says you're guilty until proven innocent, no matter how many times they

tell us that's not. But that's the same thing that happens to women, and again specifically Black women, when they report any type of abut they are liars. Everything about their life is dragged out in the world for the world to see, and they are destroyed until you have something that is solid enough that people may believe you know that they can believe that this actually happened to you. And in that situation, I think I hear what Phthy is saying. This man fifty cent is from the street.

This man tape he said as he said, this is yeah, this is because we we for That's what I'm saying, Like any it's no, it's no individual that from the street that heard that conversation. It was like yo, he was apologizing for telling them that they had it. It didn't make sense, and none of it made sense. That

whole theory that just never made sense to me. It's like, why would if I'm missing with Kelsey first and I end up sleeping with Meg and then I tell Kelsey, yeah I was, you tell your friend did this and that to you and they fight over me and all this ship happens. Why would I be calling Kelsey to tell her to apologize to Meg about me telling him about sleeping on Why would Kelly? It doesn't make no sense to me. Why would you be calling a girl that you cheated on to tell her to tell a

friend that you cheat on her? What that you sorry for telling that you cheated on it? The only thing about it is this when you keep saying that, and you've given that example several times, and I just don't that's the But what I want you to know is that the example you're providing it is it's a fact, right, like or at least I feel when I say it's a fact. The fact that it doesn't make sense, like

we don't think it makes sense, but I don't. I think that that's still leaves too much room for people to try to consider because the reality is that you don't never know what people will do. You don't even know. Really, people are like, well, why would Kelsey do and say

because people they fucked up? Sometimes ship in relationships don't go right, people make bad decisions, people can't be trusted, people are fucked up individuals, and you find out in the midst of a crisis who you're dealing with, who your true friends are, who they're not like, that's that's just the reality of life. All of us will have some point where we will have to deal with it, and some of us are actually responsible for perpetuating to

behave there at some point teenage, now today, yesterday. That's like, so I can't tell you why they were having or who called to tell this that. In the third what I do know is that in the call the man said, I would never do no ship like that. That is ridiculous. I would never do it. Like I can't believe I was so drunk I did some ship like that that right there when they when he said that the jury people that hurt, they said, what time do we vote?

I'm telling you that if you're sitting in the jury room, and first of all, the person that could potentially be responsible or somehow play a role in this. Don't know who paid for their lawyer after having to admit that you did offer money at some point, and now the person is calling you. The person who was a tipp thing to pay for your whatever, give you money, is now calling you told about I would never do no

ship like that. These people are not stupid. You can play stupid, but they're not stupid, not at all, not by not by a long shot. A teacher in the New York school totally young boy, they couldn't go to the bathroom, made him pee in a garbage can. After he peed in a garbage can, he p some of the the urine got on his clothes. They dressed the young boy and put in garbage bags, put garbage bags on and had him sitting inside of the classroom garbage bags.

But today it is the most crazy ship. I'm going to jail. I'm going to jail. Listen to me, and the ain't even listen to me. It's not there's no question, there is no what you said. It's dehumanizing. The trauma that that young boy is gonna suffer just off that one situation. It's gonna have ramifications and crazy down the road effects and on his life. He has to picture that he's embarrassed. He's watching his team, his schoolmates, he's

seeing the authority, his belief in authorities. It's all these things gonna happen, you know, and it's like, wow, I don't and I don't know what happened to the teacher. I didn't get the full notice what what you know, the school did to the teacher, but it was it's it's the most dehumanizers should ever that I've probably ever seen, man.

And I was. I was really taken back because having having a nine year old and an eleven year old son, you know, we're almost nine, who will be nine in the next few days, Having an almost nine year old son in the eleven year old son, I can't imagine somebody calling me to their school. It's it's disgusting, it's terrible.

I mean, you know, I do share an other perspective on it, though, and that perspective is that we do need to invest more in our teachers, whether it be getting rid of some of them that are crazy as hell and um and and racist and despicable and all that stuff, you know, all the bad words, or whether it's giving them resources that they need to deal with

issues because a lot of teachers are freaking overwhelmed. They're overwhelmed, and then when you get overwhelmed to a certain extent, eventually you could and probably will make like your mental health because you for you to tell a child to be in the garbage thing, your mental health is something

wrong with you. You got a problem. So either you always had a problem and nobody saw it and it wasn't identified rather and then addressed, or you have become your your mental health issues have become more severe over time because you're overwhelmed. Either way, this should be one what happened to him, the teachers should be held responsible,

the school should be held responsible, the district, everybody. Beyond that, there needs to be some assessment of what's happening in our schools and whether or not our kids are getting the or our kids and our teachers are safe and mentally stable. So I think that's the double edge too. It doesn't mean that what happened is right. It just means that what's wrong with it is not just what the person did, it's the conditions that allow for that

type of serap scenario to even happen. So anyway, but I tell you one thing that I read, and I didn't really get too far into the story. I chuckled. I found it funny that corporations are starting to reduce requirements around college education for them to hire individuals. And I was thinking, I mean, a dub, how many people do you know they do not have a bit of college education. But they can do marketing jobs, they can do jobs with technology, they can do all types of jobs.

I mean so many different jobs right where they can actually um where where they can excel and they could actually help a company grow. Right, there's a lot of people out here who did not go to college who were able to um build businesses and brands and and and really to educate them. So they didn't have opportunity to go to college either. They couldn't afford it, maybe just wasn't the right time. Maybe you know, it just they didn't come from a family where that was the

normal trajectory. So it's a lot of people here that did not in our society that didn't go to college. And then there are people who went to college who got all kinds of problems, right, mental health we just talked about, they got mental I know people who went to college, they got all the degrees, and in fact they have issues that they're dealing with from their experiences in college, from not being in regular society, having like to fight and hustle to make it to where they

where they are. Um, you know that those and those people are not as brilliant, if you will, as some would think just because they have a college degree. And then of course we know people with the opposite. They went to college, they did all the things, and guess what, they are well equipped for the job and to help build. So you don't you you can't make one cookie cutter

strategy and then try to fit everybody into it. You have to be flexible so that you can find talent and so that you can provide opportunities because you don't know people's stories. Somebody could be sitting right here, right now, looking at an application for a job that they know they can do, and they're in a situation they need a job. They're ready to stay out the street, they're ready to you know, make the right decisions. They don't

want to go to jail. They don't want to harm anybody, they don't want to do anything wrong right and they want they know they can do this job, but because they either have a felony or because they don't, they might not have a good reference from the last job where God only knows who was working there that started some bullshit with them, or they're just a person that is, they just a hater. Right, so now you can't even

necessarily get a reference from a previous thing. And or in this case, you don't have four years college, two years college, and so therefore it can't suse you out. And I think from a corporation's perspective, it's something that they definitely should be doing, you know, looking at creating other ways to find talent and to retain talent. Right, But when we start talking about government opportunities like being

a police officer, that's a different story. And the reason why I say that is because the purpose of putting a certain amount of college um, you know, credits and a certain like associate's degree to be a correction officer, and those types of um requirements, they are there to reduce the pool to people who have had some type of life experience where they've learned cultural things other than

whatever they know from their community. So if you just if you grew up in a trailer park, which black people and white people grew up in trailer parks and there's certain type of culture in that area. You go out to become a police east officer. That is actually can be very dangerous because the way you see life is through one lens. But after you've go on to college, you around other people, you're listening to your professor, you're

reading material, you are understanding things about the culture. It is supposed to broaden your understanding and broaden your horizons, which makes you more suitable to go into the world knowing that there are different types of people other than the folks in my trailer parker, in my projects, or in my community. So that's a different thing. It's a different thing, you know, for public sake. Lived experience is a thing for me. It is you know, you can't.

You can't like you can have somebody who's when is a mechanic. His father probably told him how to work on causes he was three years old, never been to school. You don't have any of these things. And you say, well, you don't have this. You didn't go to school for this, and this might be one of the best mechanics in the world. You understand because he's been around. You have

to live the experience some people have. Some people have family members and and um mentors who have taught them do this, and they went to college, you know, they have those type of teachers and those type of mentors who taught them. So, you know, I think this is this is this is a move in the right direction for corporations. You'll see more adverse I mean, you see more verse verse adversity within side of exactly. You'll see

more diversity inside corporations. Now you'll see people with lived experience bay also coupled with those who have been to college. So then you get the both, you get the best of both worlds. You know. I always wanted my kids

to be well rounded. You know, I didn't want them to just go to private school and this, and I always wanted them to have the public school experience and then after a while maybe mature and you go to more of these um educational situ situations where it's more um individualized, and it's more you know all them prestigious, Yeah, prestigious, more those things. I always wanted to have the world

so they'd be able to live on both worlds. I think that's what I think that's what society calls forward. It's more it's more hybrid individuals. You know, it's no one or two things, it's more hybrid individuals. So shout

out to the corporations for making that change. Yeah, I mean, and you know when you you brought up such a good example when you talked about the mechanic, because that same mechanic, who might be able to get a job at the you know, the local UH shop or whatever, the local car shop it because of the lack of college education and or the felony and or the situation that might have happened at another job, that person can't

go work at Mercedes Benz. They can't necessarily get on the line at Toyota or you know, unless those companies have a program where they're specifically looking for individuals who have backgrounds like that so that they can you know, work with them to try to transform their their lives and and and help to establish their futures. But if you don't have that, right, if you don't have those types of intentional program and you leave people out here in the world. And this is not a black and

white issue. This is not a black and white issue because you have Asians, whites and all types of people. Yeah, it's a classism issue. At this fact, it's a classism issue um and and that it's problematic. So hopefully this newfound approach, which I'm sure has something to do with inflation and after and and and now we're dealing with people returning um to work or not from the pandemic. There's a lot of things that they're anytime corporations do something,

it's not it's they know that they're gonna benefit. Let's just say that. So let me go to Matha to the day. You know, at some things I just don't understand. You know, Puff is our brother and we know him and love him. And I heard him on the Breakfast Club saying that at one point in his life he lied to women all the time and it caused him a lot of confusion, right, and so he decided at this age he just ain't lying. No, he's just going to be straightforward about what it is that he's doing

and where he is in his life. And people can need to take it or leave it. Right, So we're understanding that and knowing in his situation, and I'm sure it doesn't hurt that he's you know, on paper he's a billionaire, which means he's got access to immense uh capital, and clearly he lives a big life. Um, you know, I'm sure that all helps, but I'm trying to figure out why people are so mad about his relationship with your Miami. I just don't. People fear and they hate

what they don't understand. And it's like, you know, as a man, I identified with the mentality of fasts. Like we've been taught from young to to lie. Our grandfather said, look, lie till you go to just lie, just lie you do it ain't what a man do is how you do it. You're supposed to do this and do this, and sneak and do all this ship and it ain't gotten. It ain't got the black man nowhere, especially in our community. It's it's cause more confusion, is cause more harm. Everybody's lying,

but she and everybody's confusing everybody. So puffs position right, which I'm here, I'm hearing a lot a lot of more, a lot more men have the position to just being honest. Right. So when you look at that and then you see young Miami, she's she's clearly states I'm not looking to be serious for them. But I'm working on my brand and I'm having a good time. I'm not to marry a type, she said, I'm not. I'm not. That's not me.

She's clear about who she is and she found the man that fits who she is, and they seem to enjoy each other. The only confusion I see with them is the public. The public cause is more confusion between them because I don't I've yet to see them have issue and the issues they have one for sure because when he sent the flowers, uh, you know he was he was saying sorry for something, right, And let me say, let me say this because I don't want to seeing disingenuous.

No woman, it's just all the way comfortable with what is going on in this. You can't see that, because then I don't. I just don't agree with that, because let me finish same, what I'm saying. That is not norm. That is not That is not a norm. Most women would hope that a man loves you so much that he can't even see past you to anybody else, Right,

that's what That's what most people want. But when you know, but but and I when I say most, I mean nine point nine friends who yeah, but there's a reason for that. The reason generally, if you really start pulling back the layers, is because whatever damage has been done to them in the past, whether they put themselves in the position or not. I'm not trying to say the man was wrong all the way or whatever, But after they've experienced a certain level of trauma, they start to

find new coping mechanisms and new ways of approaching life. Right, It's not like they didn't just start out being that way for the most part. I know there's probably a one percent that does, but it's not the norm. But what happens is that when you think about young Miami, she says herself, I literally come from the dubab right, like, I come from a situation pretty much that is not favorable.

As she is attempting to grow in her brand to your point, in her life, the things that she's doing, she realizes that there's different there's different routes you can take. You can this is my assessment. I'm not saying I didn't speak to about it. I don't know. Puffin never said nothing to me about it, So this is just

me gossiping, right mhm. She realizes that I can she already been with a man and had a baby with a man, and you see from some of the ship that has happened publicly where that left her right and what that situation looked like. So now, as a young woman who is aspiring to where it is that she's going in her life, she has a certain type of style and brand already. So it's not like this girl is coming out here as the nun. She is not that. Right, Like we see what the city girl thing is in

the vibe and the whole thing. We see that we understand it. She knows that puff has the ability to help her to grow in her career and to advance herself. And in the midst of all of that, he likes her like he really likes her. He likes her, he's invested in her, he cares for her. She she's getting to enjoy herself and and go places and see things that she would never have an opportunity to do, probably at this time if she wasn't in the situation that

she's in. She's making a conscious, intentional choice to say I could do this for a minute. When I can't no more, I can stop. But right now it's quote I'm good I feel I'm good, I'm chilling right. The problem is that you might not like that. That's the this is the part that I don't. I don't. This is this is where I need to having. I'll be struggling. You may not like it, which means that that is

not a decision that you will make. But for you to sit there and try to act like this girl is crying out to help and people need to do something to try to save or you're you're you're bugging, You're completely bugging. And that's my that's my whole thing, completely bugging, because I don't see where she needs saving. You know. It looks like she's enjoying her life, you know.

And if the media and social media will then focus on everything that goes wrong in a situation I don't, they probably would never have go not wrong, I mean that goes on in this situation. I don't. I don't really see where the problem is, you know, because they are dealing with two different spectrums. This is the other thing I was thinking about. You're dealing with two different

times in life. You've got a man who is a grown man who is coming to a point in life where things are going to change, right, Like that's just the nature of the world. Eventually, his situation is going to change. He's not even gonna have at some point the stamina to keep up with managing all these different things, because that's just that's just not that's not human nature. Eventually people slow down, you know, they start focusing on

other things. May not be one woman, but he's still got a lot of fire, and he's still moving and shaking and doing what he's doing, and he sees where he's he's growing and he's getting older and things are changing. So he's living out his truth and living out what makes him happy. She also understands his situation because one thing about is he is not He don't struggle to explain to you exactly what he's trying to do. You

know it, You understand that. It's clear. So I just think that people in I think a good prayer for the system, because trust me, there's some cooked places. It's some moments when it don't feel good. I don't give you what you say. You can sing me and tell me until the world switches over that a man has a baby while you're in a relationship, and it gets on socials and all these people are talking ship and having opinions that that don't bother. That's not true, not

in my opinion. No, I don't think. I don't I don't think that. I wouldn't say that that don't bother. I don't know if. And that's what I try to tell you. It's the social media and the public of beinion that causes the confusion because the relationship is what it is, it's always been, and it's always somebody else's opinion of the relationship that makes you feel like you need to say something, you need to do this, or you need to feel away, and you know, and I

think that's who it is. I think the court of public opinion is always the place where it causes most confusion in relationships and friendships, you know. And that's why most successful individuals who have relationship, you don't see their their business inside the tabloids. You don't see it on

social media. You don't see those things. You might see it once in a while, them out together this and that, but for the most part, they keep their relationships to themselves because once it gets the social media or media, it just turns the ship into a circus. So I don't you know, hopeful shout out to Diddy and creation Man. There's people out out here. There's people out here in this world who are literally losing it over this situation,

struggling and stressed about the most. And I don't mean to be rude or anything, but a lot of people are dealing with the same situation as those people are dealing with and they don't even know it, and they're dealing with it under false pretenses. They're dealing with less. But no, there's people that don't. It's people that judging somebody and don't even know, don't don't they don't even

know the full understanding of their own partner. And that's just a reality when you have conversations and and and and that's why I respected he because at this point he's getting to a point where he's honest about who he is. And when you talk to most men, most men have a completely different ideology in reality than what

they let their partners to know. And it's just because we've been taught and why in that way, you know, we've been talking like people listen, I'm listening to Dr Umar Johnson, who wants like I want to have two wives. I wanted in political or whatever, and people like a

bunch of dudes, are you bugging? You bugging? Now, you were saying if he was in the room with y'all and it wasn't on public and your girl and seeing, nobody wouldn't be saying youre bugging because that's not a conversation that they have in real life, you know stand

I'm saying. So, I just think that it's so much, especially in this regard, in this conversation, that there's so much people that have not come to their own realization of being honest with themselves and being truthful that they they utilize just like it's like the pastor the pastor that you know that's gay, that's every every thing they're talking like, oh, we gotta get the gays out of here, and then you find out they're having sex or so's

it's one of those things. It's one of those things that they used to cover up and try to shield it off the reality what they dealing with. So a lot of men are dealing with that. Man. Shout out to Diddy, Shout out to Karasia for just living your truth. Man. So now our guests, as a married couple that ain't living like Karasia and Diddy. They got a whole different situation. Man,

let's bring them on. So today we have two new guests who haven't been here before, who are going to be our friends, because that's the running joke on this show that everybody we interview as our friends. But these two love birds turn entrepreneurs and life changers. So they are the co founders of Cool Creative and Cool Church and we're just happy to have you. Um, I've been blessed to have one of these cool jackets. Is also so you know, we've been a fan ever since we

got those jackets. They were amazing, you know. Shout out to our friend and yours the cole chaplain who put me up. Shout she's the one who got me my jacket. But to me, you know, she's famous. She was in the video Rhapsody where they all had the jackets, so the famous people got the jackie's first. But you know, I just how you guys are doing today. That's a beautiful day. We're so glad to be here, just honored

to be um Or with y'all. Man, y'all the world changes, man, y'all on the front lines making things happen, and we always want to connect with folks that are doing something positive. So thank you, thank you so much, so much. That Wall is phenomenal. I like that this is all his stuff. He's the illustrator. Oh wonderful, that's wonderful. Well listen, first

of all, welcome the Street Politicians. And you know, my son mentioned the sort of running thing that we have that everybody's our friend because we have so many friends that's doing powerful things around the world. Uh. And whether you start out our friend or become our friend later somehow or another, we sort of become family because we are really looking for We don't We don't have a lot of people on our show that we don't agree with or that we're fighting back and forth, even though

that that's my son's Instagram he does that. But on Street Politicians, we really do try to make sure that those gems that are out there that people don't know about, right, because we complained there's no you know, we don't have this. What we don't have we can't find services, we can't find good customer service. Uh. And yet there are companies like who Creative that exists that I've had a great experience with. So I do have the phenomenal slash historic

for Earth jacket which has on it your illustrations. Obviously we're now learning terrence of black women and others who are our icons, right, That's all that was in the video with Rhapsody others on that shot, and that shoot had jackets on shoutout to Rhapsody, that's our sister, UM and so that was amazing. But then Nicole Chaplin gave me another jacket that was a tribute to my book

State of Emergency. So I have all of that in my in my closet that I do wear, and you know, I just wonder, I guess the question first question is why do that business? Everybody else trying to do, you know, entertainment and what's popping, what's lit. But you guys are making history and icons cool. Why are you? Why did you choose to make Cool Creative about that? I think? UM for background is we started UM with Cool Creative

as a branding and a design agency. So we were doing that for quite a while, working with large and small businesses, bringing ideas to life and doing all that and UM and about five years into it, we got into the fashion space. Uh, Terrence was drawing these great illustrations because he was trying to teach our daughter, who's now twelve, but she was six at the time, where um, he was trying to teach her about the icons of our culture, of of our history, people that made a change.

And so you know, he's an illustrated by choice, by trade. I'm in design. We met in art school, which is the whole create out of love, if you don't know, COOL stands for create out of love. And that's not only a mission for us, but that's kind of like our back story as well. We met in a creative space doing creative things, and we've been creating ever since together. And so anyways, he was doing all of these illustrations as a way to teach our daughters about um, real

icons that she could look up to. And I love the drawing so much, and I was like, I'm about to put this on some clothes and I did, and um, this is like when I first started getting onto the social media's and things and um, and then I put it up and people wanted them. So I was like, Okay, well demand is there. Let's see if we can move these pieces. We moved them and then we just kept and that's just kind of like the rest is history. UM. Of course, there's a lot more that went into it.

There's there's you know, failure, there's winds, there's Grammys, there's all kinds of stuff. There's you guys, UM that are part of the story as well. UM. But it all started, UH with a passion project, something that my husband was doing to teach and to help our daughter, and we

saw an opportunity. But I also want to touch on the fact that the culture spends so much money on fashion, especially luxury fashion, that don't love them, and we're trying to help, you know, we we're trying to represent or be one of the brands that represent us and UM. You know, there's so many of us that are that are making more money, doing more things, open starting more businesses. So you know, people want to look good. People wanna you know, represent UM, you know their values, and so

we're like, where is that brand? And so we didn't see it, So we created it. UM. We're We're We're the brand. We want to be known as the brand or at least one of the pioneers of UM the fashion brands that are for us by us. Shout out to Fubu, But but like that really connect with who we are, and specifically in luxury fashion, we will want high quality luxury fashion that represents us because we deserve

the best. We deserve quality and um something that honors us and that and that doesn't mean that we don't invite other people and allies and you know, people that want that want to be part of the culture into it. But we gotta love us first and make something for us first. And that's what we're all about. I love

that answer. And you know I've been I've been very adamant about black owned businesses and US especially this year, US supportant you know us and putting money back into our communities and putting investing into generational wealth like every other you know coaches seems to do. You know, I love the idea and I love what you guys have here and and just it was created out of love, you know what us. Who are some of the artists that you've been working with, you guys have been working

I've seen these jackets. I don't know all of the people, but give us name drop a little bit. Man. You gotta you know, you gotta probab your chest out a little bit. You've seen rap City you've seen a fabulous uh at times, we've seen Colin Kaepernick rocking the Angela Davis T. I mean, it's it's definitely been getting around a lot. And just like my wife was saying, like it all really um stems from a heart of education.

Man Like, yes, we want to make a luxury street win things like that, but also we want to start conversations. And I think that's been like the most beautiful thing that we've seen as we've seen this brand go from place to place. Killer Mike was wearing it that the Grammys and different things like that. But once again, it's all with a purpose of education. It's conversation starters. If I walk around with Angela Davis been nine times out of ten when I'm walking around, people like who is that?

And I get to start telling stories and say things that Angela Davis said, like walls knocked down, sideways, Bill bridges, Like that's not a normal quote that you were here, but that's a quote that comes up in conversation when you talk about the icon when I would don't shoot pin. It starts conversation, and some of those conversations their energy

of the conversations. But I'd rather have the conversation and not so once again, it's not about just wearing something that looks good, not just about wearing something with the quality, but man, the education and the conversation is important to advance the culture. So I'm so thankful that so many people, i mean, Damian Lillard of that's the cezirely so many people have jumped on it. I can keep saying names

that I hate name dropping. What I'm just saying, like, you know, sometimes we gotta do it then because we're black and we dope and we're doing dope stuff and we want we want people to know that it's not even though it's not the big nationwide puntion, but people know that you've been doing work, you know, and people recognize and I want to also like, you know, um, it may seem like, you know, the way that we've been able to connect with these these big names is

because we got this machine behind us. But it's it's literally and and you know, there's no PR agency, although we have family that's in PR. So whenever they and we got people like our our our girl Nicole that connected this, it's like, you know, through relationships, we've been able to get it on some really great people and straight up like slipping into d m s and emailing and calling and just and I think what's really made it made it go, and I think it could continue

to go further. But what really has been pushing it and it's been getting into some um, pretty influential hands, is because it connects with what people have been thinking. I love that when, um, I have seen people walk into a space, whether it's our store, we're doing a pop up, and I see like they'll walk in and they're kind of like confused, but then they're so excited and then their eyes start to light up and they're like, this is this is what I didn't know I needed,

but I needed, you know. And I think that it's resonating with the right people because it's answering something that, uh that we you've all been crying for. Everybody who wants justice, we need, we deserve justice. We're owe justice as human beings. And I just feel like, you know, um, this was our response as artists. I think everybody has

their own platform, right. Our platform is are in design, and this is the way that we're trying to make moves and get the message out in this space, right you know, it's it's interesting you say that because one of the things we talked about last week on our show, you know, as we now have just had Dr king Day two days ago, acknowledging his birthday. Um, most people, let let me just ask you, do you guys know

why cebe Wanted made the happy Birthday song? Oh no no good and I'm supposed to be no stuff And I didn't know, right, although I found out my parents and my sister knew, So I'm not sure why didn't passes it's going, but it was. Actually the song is a tribute to Dr King. He made the song during the fifteen year period where Congressman John Conyers was fighting for the federal holiday to be you know, secured where Dr King's birthday would be celebrated as it as finally

it happened. Um. And so when you talk about everyone playing their role, fashion is a role uh where aret is told and we're politics and and the movement is examined through an art expression through fashion. Right. Um, the same existed in that moment where Stevie Wonder was trying to figure out how could he add his voice to a movement for something that black folks and other people around the country agreed needed to happen, to celebrate, to honor,

and to remember Dr King. Too often we find ourselves bumping up against one another, everybody trying to do the same thing, because you watch someone and you're like, well, I'm gonna go do that because I got the passion I want to be in instead of figuring out what

is your your what is your skill set? What do you mean at your fingertips that you can do to bring flavor to a movement that needs voices, It needs art, it needs expression, it needs everything possible to give entry points for your daughter and her friends to feel it's cool. Maybe it's to sing about it, you know. Maybe it's to write about it. Maybe you know. It's so many

different ways. So with that being said, I see what you all are doing, and I think it is a model that so many of our people really need to take heed of what you've done and how it continues to expand the reach of our movement. The only other thing I wanted to ask on this, because I'm sure we're gonna talk about the church, is the quality of the clothing. That's a big black business issue. I'm not

gonna say problem. And I'm not saying that other communities or other uh say what you want to call it. Other industries don't have poor quality because there's trash out there. You order stuff that comes from wherever and it's not good. But but we do have an issue with that as Black folks. When you go trying to support certain brands, things are falling apart because obviously capital two enhance your products and to develop something that is quality, it's difficult

to obtain that type of capital. So to talk about that, like, how have you all been able to keep such quality? Like your jackets are actually warm a normal circumstances. When you buy those types of jackets, they're not warm. They they don't feel good on your skin. Yeah. Absolutely, and joy to get more into the technical side of it.

But here the philosophy that we have definitely taken um as we're constructing clothing and designing things, were in the cutting so and all that UM and the philosophy is this, don't create what you can't sustain. Like a lot of times, I think people just want to put out a lot of something, and because they want to put out a

lot of something, they'll let quality suffer. We took ls in the beginning because we said, you know what, We're just gonna put out limited qualities of these things because whatever we put out in the atmosphere, we want to

make sure represents us properly. And we began to grow as we were able to bootstrap to attain more capital, and by bootstrapping a game more capital then we were we were able to produce more products, but initially in the beginning, and it's something I would tell any young designer that's trying to do it the way that we do with trying to trying to sneak in the culture. It's like, hey, start stuff on limited runs, like put the put the value into the piece that you're making.

You don't have to do a lot because if you do a little and it hits, then the demand is there. So you wanted to make sure that the quality was there because we knew if the quality was there, then they'd ask for more and we will figure out a way to make more. So, yeah, we'll never create something we can't sustain. And that's a model that we stretched throughout our entire business, church, everything that we do. That's

really at the forefront of the philosophy. Yeah, and I think um, with the with the quality and the sourcing of of of the pieces, they've gotten better. I will say when we first started, they weren't as good. Especially the jackets were have been pretty six um um consistent, Yes, in their quality and as a matter of fact, they are getting even better. But with the shirts, we had some problem. We we really had some challenges there because we were using blanks and we were limited to what

was already out there. We didn't know, um, we didn't know a lot, and we just kept researching, researching, And I think that's the one of our differentiating factors is that we continue to improve where we are just satisfied with just you know where we are today. It's like I believe that our customers, if they're going to spend that money, that we want to make it worth their while and so um and not just in product, but

also service. There's been some times where you know, because you're you're running so much, you're gonna have some problems issues here and there. Thank god, we haven't had a lot of them, but when we did, we stand by our product and we will fix the issue and send them a new one or or whatever it is. And We've seen that a lot with with customer service especially. It's like, you know, you're talking about a lot of

our businesses. Um, a lot of times it's a lack of customer service to the product is not just the physical thing, but it's like the experience that somebody has, so um yeah, so that's really important to us. And then once again it's like it's the name that we stand by. It's created out of love. Like if I'm if I'm gonna create something and saying I'm doing it for the love, then I'm not showing you love when it falls apart on you, like that stuff actually matters,

like you on our name to mean something. It's not like we're sitting here and saying, oh man, we're just creating stuff and we're not worried about the money. But I promise you the money wasn't the first objective. The education was the first subjective. What we were presenting for us and people like us was something that we knew that they could hold onto a long time, Like she knows me, I'm gonna sneak ahead. I got probably too many. But and it's not just because I keep attaining them.

I take care of what I have um leaving the principle of stewardship. So once again we want to give you quality items that we know if you take care of well, man, they'll last you a lifetime. So that that once again that goes back to that love piece. We're gonna make it and put inject the love in

it because we want you to. We want you to feel that when you wear, if you feel loved when you wear, or you feel like, man, they really took their time on this then man, that shows that we got a successful business model and we always want you to feel a love when you feel in garmage, I think you touched on something um and and in essence

you were saying to macauld stay in your lane. And I think a lot of what we're seeing, especially with a lot of businesses, is that of businesses that are run by by entrepreneurs of colors that they're not staying in their lane. And we're seeing evidence of that in the product and the service and all of that. Understood that, you know, we want everybody to create and sustain a

business for themselves and to to win and thrive. But if that's not your expertise and you haven't educated yourself or or done what you need to do to master that area. Then maybe that area is not for you find something that is. And so for us, we know that this is our space. And and just because it's our space doesn't mean we can't improve. But we don't.

We're good at what we do. That I'm saying, like, I don't name dropped, but I could name drop my skill like like I'm like, we're really good at what stop? You stop? You know what I'm saying, Like, and we know what we're doing and we have you know, we've studied it for years where he's a master in art in art like degrees like we have you know what I mean, we do this, I mean we we are. Can I just ask one last question? And uh, in terms of sales, right, let's talk about that for a moment.

The pitfalls of you know, as you said and begin it was you take you took a lot of ls. How have you grown? I'm sure there's leaps and bounds, you know. I just saw that Pinky no, no, not Pinky my l Organics, which is the hair that she was just picked up by you know, bought by PNG. She will remain, uh, the CEO of the company but nonetheless, um that is now you know, that's a big win, right, It's a big win because we should have the resources to grow our brands from these major brands that have

been taking money from our communities forever and ever. And I see a lot of people who are concerned because they claim, you know, they're saying shape moister, they changed the products, you know, after white folks got involved. So what is your feeling about that? The scaling in terms of this you know, capitalistic society, unfortunity that we live in. Where are you now? What were the pitfalls and where you think you're going? Yeah, I think you know. Bravo

for her. She made a deal. Um, we're learning more and more about the details of that deal. Um, she will remain CEO, so there meet there is a level of control that she'll be able to maintain. Actually start, My first job was actually with PNG and they they, at least internally, they were really good at highlighting people,

well black people. Um, they were we Like I was just going in and I was at the able with the CEO of the whole organization, you know what I mean, Like my first year in they and and they were asking my opinion and actually implemented things. Um, that saw the light of day. So you know what I mean, I'm like, I'm not gonna stay mad forever. If I'm asking for justice and justice is here, I'm not gonna throw it back in their faith. And so I feel like,

you know, she made that deal. Um, we're I'm trusting that the deal was above board and she got everything that she wanted. And she has every right. Listen, we're in business to to to meet needs. But at the end of the day, it's not a nonprofit organization absolutely, as what I'm saying. And so if that was part of her exit strategy, then more power to her. And and if and if for whatever reason the product gets

watered down, hey we can always create another. So my my ideas are infinite, and I know hers are too. She worked hard to get to this point. Yeah, we're sorry. So talk about your own scaling process, Like when you started, you said there were losses, and now you feel like you're bore stabilized. Yeah, we're growing, We're still in the scaling process. Um, we are now in Macy's in headquarters New York, where in Atlanta where online so makes these

dot com as well and that's been a really fruitful partnership. UM. The end was our end. Foot in the door had to do with all of the all the everything that was going on with UM, with our recent UM George Floyda activity, all of that, So that was part of their So that was part of the and I don't care. That was the open door. So we want we we busted the door down because we had already been in alanis like you didn't invent it, just to combat that,

we exactly. And so so that's been going really well, and we've been meeting that. I mean, it's straight up like there were times where some of that that the packing for that was happening in our garage, So it's like from the garage to Macy's, you know what I mean, so crazy. And then UM Nordstrom picked us up for a few projects and we're still in talks with then on growing that relationship, target and other things. And and what's great is that we've been able to maintain UM

the messaging, like we still saying what we are. There's been no watering down of any of it. And so I'm really grateful. And as a matter of fact, there were you know, we've we've they've been asking us for more, you know, and so I think, um, the scaling is going really good. And one thing is is that we've

been scaling pretty slowly. Part of that is because of our you know, we're trying to be really intentional and careful about the growth because for us, it's like we grow slowly so that we can sustain it and it's not gonna be I don't want this thing to be an overnight success and then you never hear from us again. And so we want to maintain that slow and steady growth. And so that's been kind of our our our model, and we're just gonna keep on getting it out there, Um,

you know, as as as much as we can. Yeah, I think I think the way you're scaled to is

also based on your objectives. Man. We're really intentional about legacy because this is a this is a family business, and you know, we see things with our daughter, who is a fashion needs that she's an artist, just like she's drawing and designing things every day, and we're really trying to set her up now if she grows up and decides that's, hey, that's not what she wants to do, at least we know as parents, Um, she can stand on our shoulders if she chooses to take the thing farther.

But because we're being really intentional about that legacy piece, Um, there's just a certain level of control that we're not willing to give up at this stage. So if it means we gotta go slower, we're okay with that. But doors are still opening in the process and the products. Yeah, I love it, man, you guys amazing. Man. I just I love the mind state, right because everybody wants to just get rich and get famous and and and when you create something out of love, like you said, the

reward comes. You know, you rewarded because you're doing it out of passionate your heart. You know, when you do things for passion and purpose, then you will ultimately get rewards. So you know, I want to say I appreciate that element of it. Being an artist and being a creative, A lot of people don't understand that. Like I never was able to make art and think about what this is gonna make me money? Like you know, I never thought every time I made art is I wanted people

to feel my art. I wanted people to understand where I came from. When I made it. That was that was the main thing. Everything else, you know, it's a blessing if it comes. But you want people to feel what it is that you wanted them to feel when you created something. So I look at that aspect. Tell us about cool church. Oh boy, oh man, that's fun. I pitched back off of this, but he's he's so, I told you I started. We started this as a Brandon agency, right, and then if it evolved into fashion,

we still do branding work. We do that day to day as as in addition to the fashion. And then about four years ago, this guy comes and he's like, hey, uh, we're gonna start a church because he's been in ministry. I've been a pass for thirteen years at that point, so I was working under another ministry at that time. And then he's like and he's like, and we're gonna call the church cool Church. And I was like what.

I was horrified. Horrified. Everything that I have learned, been taught, everything that I've worked on in my career said you do not do that. You don't mix. First of all, you don't mix anything to do with with faith in all of that, although it's all faith, right. And then Secondly, it's like this idea of brand cannibalization. So that's like a big term to say, you know when you uh, you could confuse the consumer if if everything is named

the same. And so I was just like, no one's gonna know what we do because it's it's it's it's the fashion, it's brand, it's this, it's church. It's like and I had to have a real moment with God and I felt the Lord tell me clearly, he was like, give me the brand, and I'm gonna take it further

than you could ever do on your own. Hm. And when he took over, that's when all these all these things that we're talking about in scaling and where this product it happened that the hands that it's landed on, the places that it's been, it's gone further than we ever could take it on our own. See, we put that put that faith on it. That was just like you know, insane growth. And once again it's about the

purpose piece, right. So it's like you take what's in your hand, you connected with what's in your heart, you find purpose, right, So that that creative peace was always in our hand. But man, we always have passion to love on people. So yeah, the brand element of it

was created out of love. And when we started the church and called it cool, we said, okay, you're created out of love because we wanted people to understand the value that they have, like at the end of the day, like so many people and this is the age that we're talking about it. Ten years ago, we weren't talking about depression and things the way that we're talking. Weren't talking about mental mental health and all those things. But

now that's just that's a that's a constant conversation, uh peace. Right, So when we start to say created out of love, we were trying to really just pull out the beauty in people, letting people know, hey, man, you were created I love. I believe in a God that made you because he loves you. But I don't just think you're created out of love. I think you're created by love.

I think that God is loved, like like I can't talk about the fact that that you know, my God is this, but at the end of the day, my my God is loved. So that means that I have to live a life of no matter what that looks like. I'm looking for love, I'm looking for justice, I'm looking at for peace, I'm looking for unity amongst people. But then it's not just created out of love and by love. We're created for love. What's the point of loving God? And we can't love each other, We can't love our

fellow man. You know, if we're talking about it biblically, Jesus does love your neighbor as yourself. So I feel like we are obligated as as humans to find common ground man like like equality, unity, justice is such a must. And I believe that love is the strongest force on the planet. So I said, hey, if we're gonna build a church on something, we're gonna build the church on love. You can anybody can come. We we we ain't calling you an outcast because or where you are, what you

identify with all that stuff. Let me tell you something. God made you. He loves you. So we wanted people to be able to come into that place. And it's not just say we love them. We want them to experience love. Um and we do that in the context of community that we call church. So and where is the church locate it? Yes, so we're in a mirror mar Florida. So that would be like twenty minutes west of like a for a lot of day. But yeah,

we're more than that central suburban part uh South Florida. Um. But you know anywhere in South Florida, I feel like you can get there in twenty minutes. So people come from all over. We got people coming from north, south, east, and west, and they're converging on this little city to called Mirror Mare because I just found the spot we love is. So that's what we're gonna be. What you guys have members, Yeah, oh god, there's a lot so so. Um.

We launched the twenty nineteen and launched day. First day, we had a thousand people show up to the church. Uh, listen, it's not it's not because we're that great of people. I just believe when God breathes on stuff, when he purposes you to do something, He's gonna send everything you need to make that happen. But once again, we have been boots on the ground in the community for the last thirteen years. So our track record of what we

were about how we love people. When you just saying from the pulpit, we were doing it out in the streets and in the communities. Stars and people showed up. We were running good at twelve hundred people, and March happened. We jumped online. We pivoted properly. Um thousands of people watching online. But last year was our very first year of meeting consecutively physically for a year. On a Sunday, you show up, there's probably seven hundreds so people learning that.

We still got a bunch of folks, hundreds folks watching online. So church is strong, man, It's it's powerful. But like, honestly, I have do y'all have good saying, that's what they because it's a Caribbean so you got that little element in there. So yeah, I'm treinitiation. We got all that mixed up in there. We got all around. When I go to church, I need to cry, like I have to be good. I'm gonna tell you. You might, you might, you might ride for that, but you're really gonna cry

because the presence of the Holy spiriten is there. From the parking lot, you could feel the presence of God there and that is something that you know stays with you and it's unforgettable. Fact. Yeah, yeah, well you guys are unforgettable. Man. I love the work you're doing. Man, appreciate what I want to ask one thing, what what what do you want two in the next ten years, where do you see everything the whole? Cool brand? Like, what what is your vision for everything? He loves this thing. Yeah,

I want to listen. Man, I don't. I don't just want a cool church. I want a cool brand. I want a cool world. Man. I want I want look like man. I want love to be the unifying force on the planet or whatever vehicle God allows us to use, whether it be clothing, whether it be a message, whether it be service out in the community. I just want people that the end of the day to see that love is the strongest force and all of existence. So yeah, well, of course we're gonna expand the church. Man. I want

cool I want cool churches everywhere. But more than the church, I want I want communities of people that are showing the world how to love one another properly, how to love their neighbor as themselves. As far as the brain, yeah, man, we we we wanted to continue experience right now. You know, it's it's in Japan, it's in Dubai. But man, there's so many places in the world that we just want to clothe with love. We just want to make sure

that message gets out. Man. We want to carry on what Dr King did at the at the end of the day, he pushed non violence. But the core of that, in the heart of that, in the center of that was love. We we see the power of love, and we wouldn't be sitting here today and even have the opportunity to do the things that we weren't doing if somebody didn't take a stand. So once again, love is always gonna be the foundation of everything that we do. But we don't want just a cool church or cool brand.

We want to see a cool world. We want to see the world influenced by the love and the The biggest thing that we want to leave by high when it's all set and done, it's cool school. We want to teach the next generation high love too. Um. I remember coming up art school for a kid like me was something that you had to pay a lot of money for and you had to pray to God accepted into coming from Dade County, Carol CD that that wasn't the options that gave me. They said you gotta play ball, you,

they say you gotta do this. I'm like, no, man, I'm a I'm an artist. So we want to create UM education k all the way to seeing your high That really um UM pushes and motivates the creative spirits of the next generation, especially in black and brown communities where those things are kept from us. Want to make sure that we're injecting art and love into the culture so that the next generation sees the opportunities that their creativity can afford them. So that's that's really the biggest goal.

We want to spread love, but we want love to reach the next generation. A cool world, world world. Well, listen to the will. Since Joanne and Terence Terry, I think when you come back the next time, you're gonna be Terry. Put some respect on your name. Today, I'm

just I'm proud. I feel so much, you know, pride, to just have the two of you sitting here, have this story and you know, to know that, as my son said, because one thing, Um, you know that that usually I say, you know, me and Mice get into it about everything. We debate every issue. But I will say the one thing he's very very honest about is that he does do everything with passion. Like he we're trying to tell him, like you know, well, you know, maybe you could take that song and turn it into

you know, something where you can make money. And he's like, yeah, but the impact though, I really want people to feel it. You know. That's that's just truly you know who he is, and so we that's a it's or we wanted to be infectious, like we want everybody to have that same passion that if we could reach somebody, if we could touch the next generation, if everything that we do has the ability to move the needle in our culture, that's

what's important because the money will follow. For sure. People see who you are and a believe in you, they're willing to invest. And so I am proud to have whol creative projects. I mean, excuse me, products, and I want more stuff. And I just want to thank you all for being you know who you are, and we know it's not easy. You know a lot of people gonna look at y'all. Y'all look good, y'all shining, you look good. You know, your your marriage is on display,

the church is there. But we know it's tough moments, it's dark days, um, and you know we want that to come across to that we can just keep pushing through and and you know, look what you all are able to accomplish. So thank y'all so much for joining us today. Thank you, appreciate your stand keep doing what you do. We love you, We're proud of you. We're praying. Thank you' all. Thank you all for selfless and putting yourself out on the front lines and put change and

really appreciate you. Thank you. Cool world, cool world. He appreciate you. Man. Shout out to Joanne and Terrence Wilson, the Cool Creative. They are awesome man. The energy is infectious. You can tell that they do it with a passion and a purpose. You know. All I knew prior to this was, you know, the Code always talks about them, and then we had the Jackets. I knew the quality of the Jackets. I've never been to the church, but she's always adamant calling me, telling me, but you've got

to see my friends this and that. So just hearing them, you understand what it is like. You get everything that they're doing, and you see with the place of love that it comes from, you know, and I see big things for them. They're gone far. You know now that

again they're in Macy's there in all these places. I'm not worried about them, but we do as a people because there was someone sitting right in our positions saying the same thing about Foo Boo right saying the same thing about Seawan John saying the same thing about Baby Fat that I'm not worried about them because the culture

loves it. It's gonna grow, They're gonna be fine. But the problem is that at some point we allow these other brands that are not owned by our people to seek in and become the go to right they become. So it's like, and actually, there's a jacket that Louis Baton has that I absolutely love, and it's exactly one of those varsity style jackets that they had on today. I want that jacket. I have been, you know, putting pension, my little money to the side to figure out when

I can get it. But I don't really need the Louis Baton jacket. If I could get the same type of quality and a look that's just as fly from cool creative. So I've decided I'm not gonna I'm not going to default, even though I'm not saying anything's wrong to believe the time, anybody who has that, that's good, whatever,

it's fine. But we have to train ourselves to put our brands, our communities are our things, the things that represent us to plea the people that you know from a mom and pop perspective, they're hiring Jojo, like real jojo to press up stuff in the back, you know what I'm saying. Whereas you know it's take you gotta have a certain I won't say pedigree, but you do have to be a certain type of person to get the job in these big corporate companies, even as a

salesperson on the floor. We just talked about the article um that I mentioned where they were talking about getting rid of the college requirement for some major corporate jobs, right because certain types of people they basically are blocking p out of the process. Right. And so you you you show up right now to Louis Baton to uh you know whoever finde Chanel. Whatever you apply for a job,

they run super background check. You know that. Then again, they have all these requirements to try to make sure that they narrow down the pool. But when you go to try to work for somebody like cool, creative and all these brands that belong to us, those requirements are not as demanding. So I just you know, we have to invest in that we do we're doing. We gotta be very intentional. As I said, we have to be very intentional. We gotta promote invest we gotta we we

have to retrain ourselves. Like even with the the whole Nike Boyd cards that I've been doing, it was it was intentional for me to retreat myself because I started looking at those sneakers, Like those sneakers kind of defined me, right, Like people know you've got ninekees and they see you and it's like some level of status. And I'm like, how do how do I allow this brand or any brand to give me status? Right? I actually give the

brand that status. Right, So when we look at Louis Baton, all, they're nice, but I can't attach myself so so much to it that it means that it validates who I am. Right, I don't need I don't even need that type of energy. I don't even need the people who validate me based on those things, right, because you're you're drawing the wrong

level of energy. Because if my clothes are the things that you're attracted to and not the individual, and then you turn into the clothes, then I know that superficial I know eventually, eventually, if God works come to worst and those things and these possessions and no longer things that I can have, then the relationship or the level,

whatever it is, it's not gonna exist anyway. So when we when we start creating things and we start putting the value into the things that we create, and we started dictating the value based on us, when people start seeing it has to be good because you wear it, that that tells a lot about you as an individual.

So I want us to be more intentional about making sure that us as the brand is strong, because if we the individuals at the brand is strong, that anything we put on it's gonna be fired because you know, it's in you, it's not on you. So that brings me to my I don't get it. It's it's off topic from you know, this situation. But in the news, there was a young twelve year old boy who was

killed by police officer who performed the Pitt maneuver. You know, the same maneuver that the young boy in Florida that we were working with, Stanley Davis the third was killed by and other officers and and it's been banned, And I don't and and and and it's so crazy to me. Right when I'm looking at the interaction. Right, obviously, the police pull the guy over. They said he don't have a life, he doesn't want to. He's he's constantly saying,

we're just supervisor. I'm not getting out the cars late at night. He has the boy in the back seat, and he's constantly just saying, we're the supervisor. I don't have to you know, like I'm not doing any of these things until the supervisor. No camera, there's no camera on. Like he he'd scared for his life. You don't know what you guys are gonna do to him. So at that point they become our rate. He rolls up his window because they're trying to do whatever. They break the window.

Now I'm thinking to myself, woman the desert, I've seen these this situation before. He takes off. Now, whether it's right or wrong, that's somebody. Some people said, why you don't just get out white Because some people are don't trust the police. Some people don't believe that their lives are not gonna be taken. Some people don't believe if they get out their car that they're gonna make it back home. That's just a reality, and I think the

police should understand that. Right. So neither here nor that the guy takes off and they chase him or he does this all he doesn't drop the car, he didn't hit anybody, speed checks, speech chase. What I don't get right is how do the police officers justifying in their minds knowing that these maneuver could possibly kill somebody, right, no, knowing that because the man is in the high speech chase and he's just driving, he hasn't done anything violence anybody,

He's trying to get away. How do they make up in their mind that this situation calls for me to do something that there's a strong possibility that someone could lose their life if I hit a call on the roads. There's no guarantee that it's gonna stop. More than like he could flip over, someone could actually die. I don't understand the mind state that the police have when they chase it and they and they do maneuvers like this like well, I don't even know how it got implemented

into something, and it shouldn't be implemented. Only time I would say that you implement something like that when the person is on the dangerous. If somebody has been deemed on the dangerous and they're running from the police officers and you feel like it's necessary in that situation, then it's more justifiable than just a routine traffic stuff with somebody decides that they're gonna drive off. I just don't get it. I really just don't. Well, here's the bigger thing,

because I heard everything you said, and I agree. Um, But what I will say is, you know, I was listening to somewhere I don't know even know I was somewhere recently, and a pastor was given a sermon and talking about responsibility levels, like who has the burden of responsibility? It was Reverend sharp Than at the funeral for for Brianna Greer and she, you know, uh was in the car. She she had a mental health issue. She I picked up.

She was in a car with two officers and somehow another the door was not closed and she fell out of the car and broke her neck or or hit her head a skull, her skull, and she died. Many more details to that. Still folks are in the process of, you know, fighting for justice for her family, her father.

She she left behind two little girls three years old, and just recently her father passed away, um you know, and and and certainly from a broken heart because he was out there in the heat and everything fighting for his daughter. It's just too much. But what Reverend Sharpin was talking about was the issue of accountability and where the burden lies. And I see people even in my comments when I posted about this very this very issue, who are like, well, both people are wrong because the

adult drove off knowing that the child could get harmed. Right, So they're saying that, And in theoretically that is true. We can't say once you take off, you don't know what's gonna happen. It might be a car dart out. Anything can happen, right, So we agree with that. But the problem is that the burden of responsibility lies within law enforcement, who are trained professionals with a weapon, who

are supposed to know how to deescalate an issue. So when a man who is in his car a black man, or in a car a black man says to you, I would like to see a white shirt and I don't feel comfortable for X y Z reason. You don't have a camera on. I don't feel comfortable. I'm I don't feel comfortable, right, get the white shirt. I just want to say, what's so hard about doing it? Or or have someone come and approach who's like, sir, let's calm down, everybody calmed. In fact, let's back up, let's

calm down. Keep your hands where I can see them, let's talk. Right. That is what the job requires because you have the training. You have the training, you have the gun, you have a paycheck. You are encountering people who had none of that. You're working. You actually work for the people that you encountering. That's the reality of the situation that you are servant servant for the people.

You work for the people. So if if if your ego is so fragile because someone wants to see someone who's hired in you because they're they're scared, do you have to I don't think that you think how you realize how scared these people? Maybe like people, it's it's a real thing that people are losing their lives at traffic stops. So like, I don't understand why does the ego get so broken when somebody said, you know, I need to see the supervisor. Can you have a white shirt?

Because I don't believe this procedures proper, and and and they get so been At that point, they want to prove to you that they have the authority that I'm in control. You don't get the act for a white shirt funk all that I'm gonna rest you. I'm breaking the win. I'm gonna do all the things necessary to show you that I'm in control of situation. And I

think that's just horrible policing. I don't know what handbook they have, I don't know who's created, but I think it's the worst kind of policing that you can even think of. To constantly every put these type of officers and have whatever training that they have to go out and interact with the pedestrians and the citizens this way. It just does not make sense to me. I just don't get it. I'll never get it how these things end up with people dying, even if it's the worst thing,

Like it's like me chasing myself. It's like, because if you actually care for somebody, you're not gonna kill him. I'm my son does something wrong and he runs, I'm not throwing no brick at the back of his head to stop him. I'm just not doing that right. My friend the kids, like, why don't they see it the value of the life, knowing that this right him doing could kill somebody who who's probably nothing more than scared. And if they're not scared and they have something they

call their running for, we can eventually catch him. We got we got walkie talkies. We can cut them off at the road. He's gonna run out of gas eventually wherever we're gonna do. But I'm not trying to take his life. I'm not gonna do something. And I know it's a kid in a car because because I saw, I've seen, I literally see, because they have to see

the cup. Because the reality situation is when you woke up on the car and they see another person, they flash that like they want to make sure that the other person not getting a weapon. They want to look they're paying attention all those things you did. You you're not gonna tell me that you just see somebody in the car and you didn't pay attention to them and you wasn't aware of And no, that's not that's not accurate, you know, so I'll just never get it. And I

just and I hope these officers are held accountable. In my my, my um condolences and prayers goes out to the family of the young man who lost his life. But that said, we've come to the end of another episode. Another another episode or Street Politicians. Shout out to Joeann and Terence Wilson, the creators of Cool Creative. They are dope. Make sure that you go. They said their store is in Miami. They got the Cool Store in Miami, yep. And they have the church, the Cool Church in my

merrim Merrimal. So make sure you you tap in with them, get you some gear, and then go get you some praise. At the same time, they said, they said the Holy Ghost is did the spirit, the Spirit of the Lord is at that church. So shout out to them for coming up here and brings us to the end of another episode. I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika D. Mallory is not gonna always be wrong, but we both

always and I mean always, always, always be authentic. Listen to Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network on I Heart Radio and catch us every single Wednesday for the video version of Street Politicians when I Women Dot TV