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it literally in this second. Is grandma te grandma? Te grandma. I don't want grandma, I want grandma. What's what's your granddaughter's name? And hand? What his name is? Blair? And she is we are in bliss with there because she is abused at Oh dope, man. Congratulations to his son. Ye he's a little he's a little half grown man there man, he got him a little he gonna he's gonna step up now. Yeah, I got to step up. And her mom's name is Nia, and she's also incredible.

They're really good parents, you know. I I even watch your grand your grandson's parents. So Nassan and Cindy. They're really good parents. These young people are incredible parents. Bro. Yeah, because you know what it is. I think I think we gave him a lot of a foundation. You know, they had a way different kind of foundation because we had parents says like, listen, you're gonna that's your kid. You're gonna figure it out. I love him and gonna come,

but you're gonna you're gonna do the initial work. The first six or eight months is on you. I'm gonna come, buy my hug him, and I'm gonna do that. But we don't think I don't think we're parented in that fashion. You know what I'm saying. We gave a lot of a cushion. You know my son's mother, I saw him. She's very hands on with you know, her grandson. So they didn't really have to to really do my I mean, they do, they what they have to do, but the

foundation is really set for them. So yeah, it's true when you well, first of all, even though yes we are working as parents, I'm as grandparents, we are working, but we have a lot more flexibility to be able to support Our parents didn't have that. Their jobs were

pretty much nine to five once they get home. They've got to get ready for bed, because every day, you know, they were on that that when you call it the the the wheel, you know, going my parents they got home at a certain time of day, six o'clock or whatever. They didn't have time to watch my son afterwards, even though they still helped out way more than they should have ever been required to. But nonetheless, it was just

a different thing, you right, It's it's just different. We are more involved in shifting things and you know, but then I don't know, because other grandparents have damn they are taken over in terms of how they supported their grandchildren and the parents. I don't know, it just was different. I was just not as good as a parent as these kids. What I see in them doing is just over the top. So I'm happy to be a part of that. And it's fering. I'm grandma, te grandma. T

what's in the news? Um? Oh? So Biden in the marijuana offenses. First of all, the White House is like, yo, we gotta do some stuffs because we only had what is it now? They're less than thirty days, Yeah, November five is less than thirty days for the mentorm elections. They need people to turn out, and they have to figure out what to do in a short period of time to try to make sure that the messaging is

not just flat. They need to be able to give it some you know, some some highs and lows and put some color up in there around what they have been able to accomplish. In my judgment, and I'm sure you agree, it's not um like you know, it's like, it's not. I can't say it's flat because we can't do that. We have to give credit. We are credit is due, but certainly the type of change we need.

Forget about what they promised and all of that, because we could get into that and be here all day, but just the type of so it's the type of change we need, the type of support people of color, but black folks specifically that we need in this country. I don't know that the government has ever going to do that. I just don't. I just don't know that we will ever have a government that will give us what we need as a people. Just don't know. I don't.

I don't think so either. I don't think, like I said all the time, to give black people marginalized communities which they actually need to be successful and progressive means the fall of capitalism. Right, Capitalism cannot function if everybody is financially stable, Right, there has to be a lower class. That's what it is, built off, is built off somebody has nothing, and and and some people have a lot,

you know. So to actually give marginalized people who who's actually are black people in this continent communities, you know what I'm saying, those equal opportunities and options is the fall of capitalists. But when we look at this bill, it's two things, right that I say, And I'm critical about it, always critical about it. But as as the president, there only you have limited ability to just make laws. Right, there's there's a process. And the only thing you actually

can control our federal as federal legislation gets held the states. Yo, every state, y'all gotta do this. They don't have to buy buy those rules. So the only thing he's he has the ability to do is make federal law and and give the states who want to help buy But not at that point, it's for us to push our state legislators, you know, and I the people that control our states to adopt those things, you know, And and and it's a fun up system it's it's it's sucked up and I want to be I want to say

by ain't doing ship. But I see them past a couple of things that I gotta says. It's more than I've seen anybody else. Do you know, It's more than I've seen people doing a long time. And I'm definitely critical. We should be getting way more ship. We should be doing all these things, all these bills that we should get. But I understand that there's a process, and I understand there's some people who don't want that process to go. They don't want to see marginalized communities, black and brown

communities actually grow. They just don't want to see it, you know. So you know, I don't. I don't know, and that's why I don't know if it's it's possible

for us to actually get equity in this country. Yeah, I mean, I think what you said is a d true that you know the States is now where it goes because seven thousand people is great, but we know that the system is full of and that incarceration is is really um populated, if you will, if you will, by our people, many of them black folks with criminal backgrounds based upon marijuana conviction. So we know that you know, seven thousand is a good number. We want to see

everybody at every level to cut you in. The seven thousand represents the amount of people who would be affected by INDI federal system by the that I'm saying, seven thousand people potentially potentially being freed under this um, you know, new law. However, this states it does fall back on the states to handle the masses and sort of the

magnitude of the problem around marijuana convictions. And I'm just gonna be honest in saying that this is why you have to go to the polls, because first of all, anyway, I was getting ready get into a whole thing that we're not gonna talk about today, because you know, I just want to know which one of your Republican buddies, Um, these all these people who are out here that folks are like, well, it's good people on both sides, okay, Well, which one of them, Which one of those individuals is

pushing for legislation that we're free a bunch of people at once under a new law, um and a new statute.

I don't know what, you know, whatever, the point is that this is why we have to make sure that we vote for governors and others um in state office and your state legislature who will help to ensure that what Biden has done is modeled on the state level, because that's where we have most of our people dealing with marijuana convictions and incarceration and um, you know, and and if you are unwilling to be participate in the process,

you won't show up at the post. You're not, you know, making sure because this is like a rubber meets the road situation. This is not just some theoretical ship that's just in the air. This is like, literally, you make sure you put somebody in office who will look at what Biden is doing the same. This state wants to be a part of that. It's that simple. It's either your legislature, your your It's either your governors and those people who are in elected office in your state supported

or they don't. And by the way, where is Kathy hok Or in New York? Because I ain't I don't know if I heard that she or Or has already signed a bill that is aligned with that. So I'm over here talking about the Democrats. But hey, which one of those states? But I don't know I need to

do some more research, so I'm checking myself. Anyway, I heard you say black and brown coalition, um or you said black and brown people, and that that term has been challenged greatly over the last few days based upon the uh, the the situation in Los Angeles County where the council president she's now the former council president, nor Martinez, was caught on tape saying a bunch of nasty, vile, racist things um about us black people and particularly a

black child, calling him a monkey, talking about violence against the kid. Just a bunch of nasty things that she should not have been saying, and she got caught, and it has caused people to start talking about an issue that comes up often, is this idea of a black and brown coalition and what and not it really exists? And this is what I want to say. First of all,

she has resigned from the council completely. But her two colleagues who were also in the conversation, who not one of them pitched the fit and said, wait a minute, this is nasty, this is not right. What the hell are you talking about. I refused to participate in this. They didn't one of them. I think didn't do that, and the other one actually participated in the conversation for real, for real, Um, you know, neither one of them did anything to stop it. And those two people have not resigned,

so there's still pressure on. And so the question becomes, you know, people talk, they hear sometimes even you know, we say black and brown, um, and folks are like, is their real black and brown coalition? Because we know that there are Latino individuals out there who do not identify with our communities, and in fact, they want to see themselves as a step above us. They want to be disassociated completely with anything that has to do with even being brown. They want to be as close to

white as possible. They are trying to gain access to the white community, and they will throw us under the bus and sometimes harm us in order to be there. And here's what I think, because people look at us and they're like, oh, you know, why do y'all say black and brown? Even with the conversation around fat Joe using the word the N word. Um, you know, people people are like, Tamika, you know, why haven't you said anything? And I do think that being a New Yorker, especially

a New Yorker from the hood is very different. I'm sure in l A there's some places like that as well, where black and Latino people grow up so close together that you don't even Because when I lived in the projects, it was a black family, a Latino family, a black family. Like we ate food together, we did everything together. I don't know a life without those individuals who I grew

up with. Now, when I went to school the Catholic church, unfortunately, and because I went to a Catholic school, the nun who ran the church and the school, she's the one who put in us sort of a racial dynamic or made me feel like I was less than as an African American or a black girl. When I was next to Mariel and Marciel, who are our two sisters, right, there are two twins who are beautiful, beautiful Latino sisters, and they are my girls. We are super cool. Loved

them down. But when I was young, there were people who tried to pit us against one another. And you know, I don't I feel like I hate to say it, but the people who introduced the racial dynamics was the white folks in the school, because otherwise we didn't know nothing about that. Because you know, what it is. Would there's a proximity to whiteness with Latinos, right because this trade hair lighter skin, so they're identified closer to them, and those people who want to identify closer to the

white people are able to. And there are those who don't want to, you know, they don't want to be involved in this, this racial dynamic. They want you know, they want to stand for equity. So it's always been that situation. Like like you said, we grew I grew up in the Bronx where my next door, everybody on my floor except me was Puerto Rican or Dominican. You know. The next to the neighbor was Dominican, the guy next to me, Jose, They re Puerto Rican, and then I

guess the other person over here was Puerto Rican. So

we and we grew up like family. We was ind and out of each other's house every day, you know, So the dynamic there we didn't know, you yeah, you know what I'm saying, and then you know, people start making you see the divide every now and then there would be these little racial things that happened before the most part, we grew up as family, you know, and so you know, not everybody has that because there's certain things like in Alabama, where my mother is from, there

are no Latinos. The Mexican community has just moved in with the like a Mexican restaurant, but other than that, and I don't even know where they live because I sure I've never seen them walking up and down the past of my grandmother's community, you know. So I'm sure that there are certain places around the nation where there is no The only thing they know is white and black, right, and most of the time there's literally no relationship to the white people. So I don't know. I mean, I

don't know anyway we should move on. I just we're trying to figure this out, this conversation around the Black and Brown coalition. When I think of somebode like Carmen perez Um, you know, and I think of other Latino sisters and brothers who are in this movement with us, it is very difficult for me to leave them behind when I'm talking about issues, because I know they face

some the same things that we face. But I also know that there's a lot more work that has to be done by our Latino brothers and sisters to show up for us as Black people and to make sure that you know we we we can keep it clear

that we're one family. So I guess, on one hand, you know, there's a little bit of hypocrisy that exists in all of us because we all we talk about For me, fatiates from the Bronx, like every quarto Rican I know, up until I got into this movement, being honest, the word nigga only have made us angry coming from white people, right me and my my spinish tyr, My nigga was good. This is just how we talk like every day, my nigga nigga. That is a community that

is a everyday communication for us in the Bronx. Black Puerto Rican people communicate with each other like that. When it was a racial slur, when we heard a Hispanic person call you a monkey, then that's when we we now use trying to be racist. We knew we heard more no or we heard monkey is something. You know. This was a direct ratio intention. But the word nigga was just our regular dialogue with each other. It's also

how people say it. White people can't say at all period, not now, But it's also how people say it when some people some Latinos do use it in a derogatory way. I'm not I've never heard it inside of our community, like I've never heard uh, Hispanic or Latino person say the word nigga. And it made me feel like yeah, because even in a fight, the Latinos in our communities

might be like, nigga, what's up? Like And just so again, I recognized the hypocrisy, recognized hypocrisy, and recognized it's like anything. If I got my friend, the things that offend don't offend me about my friend, don't mean it. It's not gonna offend somebody else when they do it. The reality we need to we need to to move on and

talk about our topic for today. But I'm glad you brought that up because that takes that takes us to the conversation that has been viral about coach Stormy and Tammy who when I showed up a day late to their conference after which is called girl hold my hand, um. But by the time I got there, they were already viral about something that happened the day before. Let's talk

about it a little bit later on. But it is very true that what the way that you may speak to your friend's cool with y'all, but when other people hear it, they are gonna be they may be offended by what they hear, which is why sometimes people don't need to hear everything, because the Internet needs to be unplugged.

But we gotta get to our topic. But I forgot that I have to make sure today I do my thought of the thing, because my thought of the day today is so durn, like just it's not so much good because it's actually not good, but it's more so important. You know that people watch people more than they work, Like this is something that you what was you gonna say? People watch people more than they work? And you know I was. I posted something last week where p Diddy Puffy,

I still call him Puffy, y'all. You know, everybody got their own thing, love Love brother, where he was talking about how difficult success is, like how hard you have to go to be successful. And you know, some people will say, well that is you know, you're killing yourself, you're working too hard. And I get that. I'm not sitting here advocating for you know, not taking care of your family or vacation or resting, so just working so hard.

But what I do know is that if you'll spend more of your time watching other people and wanting to figure out how to diminish their value and or call them out, and you know, sit up and and and and really be motivated by jealousy and envy. And you will never say that like most people, they will never say, I'm being motivated by the jealousy and envy in my heart. They're not gonna say. They're gonna say, nah, it's because

things ain't the way it's supposed to be. And somebody should have gave me this, and somebody should have did this for me, and somebody should have liked because that's what we love to do, is to complain about other people and try to figure out ways to expose them, deny them, disrespect them. Even people who disguise themselves as your friend, they're the main ones to do it. And and I think people don't realize that the hate that's in you is what's stopping you. It's not who is

in your way. It's not to me, Mallory is your problem. It's not my son is the problem. It's the hate that's in you that's stopping you from getting where you're gonna. We used to have a saying in my old job that you can't be big and little at the same time. You have to choose one or the other. Because if you little, everything you touch is gonna be just as little as you are. You're never going to accomplish your goals and be and and fulfill the greatness that God

has placed within you. If you're busy watching other people and having a why not need and I why them mentality, especially when you sit around and and claim, oh, I'm i'm I'm real, I'm for the people, I'm this and that, and all you do all the time is trying to tear down people, and particularly tear down black women. It's not then you you're a hater, that's what that is the only thing in your way. Because I know people. I know people who are brilliant, they're smart, they are um,

they have all the things. But the little bit of hate, that little envious behavior at jealousy that you carry, that's blocking you from your greatness. It's blocking you from getting what you want to go. And I always say, you know when you if you look at me, because I know that I am I don't know all the things right, Like I'm not the most politically educated. I don't know how to use all the big words. Sometimes it takes

me longer to catch concepts and understand things. But somehow I have been successful, and I'm in a position where I have influence right, where people respect me, where there are a lot of people out here who have been impacted by not And I'm not talking about our work on a big scale. I'm talking about just me and my peer to peer relationships that I have with people who have helped to put them in position. And I

am blessed in that way. And I really truly do attribute a large part of that to the fact that I don't walk around watching other people and hating on who ain't got what, and who's over there, and who's over there and I don't like this person, and trying to figure out how to take shots against people who I have once sat and broke bread with. That's not

my personality. That's just not who I am. So when I sit and look at the difference between me and some of the other individuals who people watch me and who have so much ship to say about me, I realized that the difference between you and me is hate. That's the only thing that's different. I say that I say all the time, if you pay attention to somebody

long enough, you'll realize why they're not successful. Because I know a lot of people who are talented, they're smart, they have skills, all these things, and you'd be like, damn, why this person ain't got this and this and that, and if you you stay around them long enough, especially if they're not really young, so they just have matured

into a certain space. But if you hang around um, grown adult people who have yet to have reached a level of success, you'll be able to tell why it's it's it's certain things, character flaws that they have, And that's a character flow. When when you you know, like I have no problem right when I think somebody is detrimental, completely detrimental to what it is that we represent or we to our culture, I don't have a problem calling that out of I think you are complete sucker, then

I'm gonna call that. That's something that I need to save these babies from you. I need to save the culture from you, because you've done nothing to add to this culture. But there are people that I have fundamental differences with, right. We have different ideologies, we have different ways of going about things. And even though I don't agree with your your path to UM, you know, to our salvation and to the evolution of our culture. Even though we may have different paths, I don't need to

call you out because we do it differently. I know that you add some value to this culture. If I know that you add value, I don't have to talk bad about you just because you might be in in the competition. People might try to pit us against each other because they see us in the same way. I don't. I don't see that as an issue. I believe that was for me. I'm gonna get so I don't see myself having to do anything to pull you down for

me to get higher. But some people feel that. People feel that somebody who's who is influence you in their space, who does something and it takes away from them. Nobody can't dem in my life. And that's what people don't understand. I think that's what we are. We're in an error right now where when you look at just look at the whole, it's so many different people in the movement.

This in the movement, I want to call out BLM right and it's like for me, even if for you to call out BLM where we where we can actually say it is the biggest civil rights movement. In his read it's document social justice. So I would say social Well, there can be a difference. It's argument. Some people put it that sem right, some people say, Joseph, social justice. Whatever it is, we've known that there's so much good

that's come out of it. We know that they are historical things that have never happened in history that black people were able to benefit from. Right, So for us to try to tear that down, knowing that it was beneficial to a lot of different things, We've seen you know, historical um judgments. We've seen laws being changed, we've seen convictions that never had, We seen finances go into black

community that we've never seen. We've seen people be exalted into different you know, areas based on the fact that we said that black lives matter. We've watched those things that we cannot deny those things happen. So for you to want to tear down something that did that instead of saying, okay, let me figure out what they did wrong or this and that, let me fill that gap, let me because I don't have to tear that down in order for what it is that I'm doing to

be successful. I don't even have to do that, but that See. But the problem because there are different types of people. There are some people who are critiquing Black Lives Matter and not realizing or at least I feel like they don't realize that they're lending their voice too a larger movement that is trying to destroy our coming

together around a particular theory. So there's those people who I think they just don't really they think they're just one person speaking, or two people or tend people speaking, and they don't know that that is exactly what the enemy needs to fuel its opportunity to say. Ain't none of them people that was out there saying Black lives matter ship not just three women or or one woman or however you want to boil it down. But the whole movement is trash, right, So that's that's one thing.

Then there are people who, because they're in the process of a money grab, they all they want is money. They're thinking about the money, they want, the money they should have got the money they need, the money, money, money, money, money.

They're motivated solely by that they know what black lives matter as a movement has done to bring black people together and the benefits that have come from it, despite the fact that there are things the organization could have done much better and you know, different and much better, and they know the value because some of them were involved, but because of the money grab, they have lost the sense of understanding that, Hey, even though I'm pissed about

this thing, I know, I know that these folks, this larger world does not want us to even believe that our lives matter, and therefore I have to be smart and how I move. But but money is the root of people. It's the route of people's evil or evil

or whatever. And what happens is that first they coming after after they go after BLM, then it's after me, then it's after so and so, because all along people are looking at somebody else's ship, their life there, whatever they got going on, and they're trying to figure out how do I tear that person down or try to to try to um to try to put a a damper on their credibility so that they are no longer able to have access to what they have because I don't have it, and so I I can't speak to

what it is, you know, with these with other folks. I can't speak to the BLM know. But but what let me just finish. I can't speak to the BLM space in terms of who they are, where they come from, and all of that, because I only know very limited information about all of them. Right and by the way, I know these three different women in very different ways, and I could tell you positive things about each one of them. So this is not about that. I can

only speak on until freedom first. But right now I'm not even talking about until freedom. I'm talking about Tamika Mallory. And I would like to say, for the record again for all the haters who are watching and listening, thirty years of my life, I have worked my ass or okay, I have sat in rooms where I was not allowed to speak, where I was not allowed to even have an opinion, where my job was to serve coffee and tea and to and to be there to serve other individuals.

I have moved up the ranks of the movement. I have supported other people. I've supported other organizations. I have trucked my ass back and forth on trains, buses and wherever is necessary to be there to be a part of to lend my voice, my skills and my services two different aspects of our movement. I have put into work. And what I want to tell people is if I swear to you that my model, it is a model that is what's good for the goose, is good for

the gander. Work and stop hating so much work, and stop sitting around looking at other people and people watching and feeling like, why not me? Why not me? Because that's the problem, because you can well surpass me in what you know and how you speak and all the things that you have that I may not be blessed with. But the thing that is is about me. I have been humbled, and I have been in service, and I have not participated in tearing the people down for my

own success. That is what I think is the secret source to the Tamika Mallory story. And I suggest that people get them a story that looks similar business. It's sad, we understand time, but you know we're used to it though. But you know what, here's my shade. They say that if you was watching chapter two, chapter three is gonna blow your mind because I am on my way to

the next level. And it's nothing that you and your haten masks can do to stop me from where what it is that God has for me and my life. Just know you can't stop period, if you kill me, if you took my life today, my legacy is still gonna be greater than yours. So talking about moving on, moving on, moving on from the haters, now we should. Now we could go to the topic. I was gonna talk about Coach Stormy and Tammy Price, but I'm gonna put that in another episode because you know it's just

you said it. I mean, anyway, you already summed it up. The point is that the way you speak to your friends sometime it's not necessarily good for the world to hear because people won't won't understand it. And me being there in the space with them the next day after the situation went viral, you know, Tammy is not oppressed, she's not embarrassed, she's not being stripped of her womanhood, none of that. Actually, she's a very strong young woman.

They have a wonderful relationship. They treated me well and they treated one another well. But I do know I and first of all, and by the way, I wouldn't have used the word hood rat. I wouldn't have used it. I know, I say it. I say it, but I probably would not have used it to talk to my friend in front of a camera. Right, So I get that, I get what has struck a nerve than some people. But I also know that the way in which they were communicating is the way that they're comfortable talking to

one another. And not every friend, not every conversation with your friends. It's going to sound good to a person who's listening, and so that is you know, that's just something again, it's the hypocrisy of life. Right. We could sit with Joe and talk and say words and then and the in word and whatever, but we're not going to be okay with other people using the word. So anyway, I just thought I would weighing on that. Now on this other topic, those on a serious topic today, this

issue of women's health. We have a guest coming up today that is going to, UM, I think, give us a lot of clarity on things that we kind of throw out in the world. Everybody does men, women, Everybody throws out these concepts around how to take kid ourselves.

We're always talking about um you know. Now we're talking more about how women are literally dying more black women are dying more than any other group of women based upon you know, the lack of care, and a lot of it is just a self a self awareness issue and are in our communities we just haven't talked about certain things. And I always you know, it's so many different think ways that you can address this topic. First of all, we've talked about many times the fact that

most women, most women not some most not. They may not all agree in public, but most women have a very difficult time having orgasms. They're faking it during sex. Often. We have a lot of women who are dealing with physical challenges or or vaginal challenges that they don't even talk about. A lot of men who don't even know how to help a woman take care of her vagina. And you know, it's like, yo, the COUCHI business is a real serious business. The business of the couchie. It's

a it is it is a very precious place. It's almost like a new born baby all every day. You know, if you think about it, now that I have my grand baby, I realized how precious he is. And you you know, you're holding her and did it. A couchie is just that precious as a newborn every single day. It has to be clean properly, it has to be treated properly. You have to fill yourself with the right things. It's a lot to taking care of a COUCHI and and and you know, and I don't know that men

are even taught any of the stuff. We are also taught incorrectly, but I don't I don't feel like men know ship about how to take care of vagina most man, I'm sure something do. I mean, we were you know, my mother told my sister how to take care of vagina. She ain't never come to me and said, boy, this is how you take care a woman's with gina. That's not like really a conversation that we have is what is the need for it? Right, what's the need for it?

Somebody to come. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but I think I think maybe that's something that you probably shouldn't do. Did you ever sit down me, Did you ever sit down with Tarik and be like, hey, this is how you take care of your women's coaching, and these are the things you need to know. What

did you ever have that conversation? Now, when he was young, I messed that up, but as he got older, I would tell him things about washing his hands, brushing his teeth, making sure that he's taking care of a woman's vagina, or taking care of himself by the way, right, like because washing your hands, rushing yountee, taking care of your own hygiene, that's not so much just about somebody else,

but it's it's really about take care of yourself. And as you take care of you, it helps the woman's volga, I guess is what they call it. And I think it's volga. Let me go look that word up, um to be healthy. So you know, I feel like we do need to teach that, and there is a purpose for it, and it's certainly a purpose for men to learn that. Half the time they think they're doing something sexually that they're not doing because it's not working that well. Yeah,

I mean, I don't know. I guess I gotta I gotta thought about that. We're talking. I want to talk to our expert and get her opinion about what I thought about. Okay, I can imagine what you will say. I'm afraid for this conversation. I don't know what you're gonna say, but um, I will say, I am I'm happy to have a woman come on the show today that I know. She deals with all the aspects, not just the couchie, but also the body, and she talks

about help and men as well. Her name is Coach Jesse and her company is called the Detox Now, the Detox Down. You see everything, Penophora. Everyone is basically telling us it all connects back to your health. Yeah, health is wealth. I tell people all the time, you can't get a dumb I don't care how much money you got. If you ain't healthy, you ain't gonna live to spend it. So absolutely, the Detox Now. She's a woman's health activist, so that means that she's actively doing things every day.

Not just a woman's hold expert, but she's an activist. And she also is a fibroid survivor who dealt with some issues. I'll let her talk about her issues. And she's turned to be a nutritionist because she believes that food is directly connected. And you know, and I'm excited that Coach Jesse is gonna come to educate us and talk about what he is that's going on with the Coach. So, Coach Jesse, I'm so excited you are here. I'm always having to fight and defend women and our health, women's

health by myself. So it's so good to have you on today. Thank you for being a guest on Street Politicians. Thank you so much for having me. Listen, you gotta circle with you. You're not you by yourself. We got we got your back, got your back. I don't understand this because I'm always outnumbered on this show. Is we got woman producers, we got her. She's like five women alone, so she like she needs you, I need to help. No, we haven't been on this show often, by the way.

I mean, yeah, okay, I guess it's getting more balanced. It's getting there. We're getting appreciate you. Thanks you for coming on, Coach Jesse, Thank you for having me. I'm so grateful, so grateful, So Coach Jesse. Before you came on, we were talking about women's coaches, right, she was talking about it covered things. Let's make it clear because I not need she and you know it's such taboo, right,

it's such tabool. It's not taboo because everyone is using one or or some way, one in one way or the other either coming here like how you are born into the world and or um you know, or and or actually in having sexual interactions or whatever, you're using it as a woman's on your body, but we don't like to talk about it. It's taboo to discuss the topics.

And I think that because it's taboo, you have so many things going wrong and ways in which we are not taking care of the health of our vaginas because we don't talk about it. And I was the conversation that we were having. I was asking my son, like who taught you what? And like what did they say? What's the words they used? And where did you get most of your information growing up? Because I feel like so many young men, even my own son, I don't know if I had the right conversations with him. So

what's your take on that topic? Well, I love what you said about you know, when people don't talk about things, you know, things go wrong. And you know I heard you know, Grandma used to say bad things happen in the dark. You know what I'm saying, And the dark is really it's ignorance, um, And I think we do, you know, we have to come out of that that time in our lives where it was like, well this

is taboo, because taboo is what made it shameful. It's what made it something that we we remained ignorant about and we didn't communicate where we had issues. I think it's very important that sexual education, menstrual education, UM, sexual health education, and anatomy is taught with your sons and your daughters the same. Okay, because we are our community, our family, our family unit, whether it's father and mother,

who ever is having those conversations, we need to know that. Um, it needs to be brought into the light, right because when we bring things to the light, then we can see what's really happening. We can feel open about having conversations. It's like when people see a little girl save vagina, like, yes, let her say vagina, thank you. She has not so you're not you don't think the JJ and poll pone and two two and all of that, we shouldn't be

using those terms. There's a lot of debate around that, right. Um, you know, I don't mind saying that JJ because it's like we have a cute nickname for a lot of things. Right However, but she should always know vagina and she should not feel ashamed of saying vagina, right because it needs to be taken care of just like every other

part of us. And because there's so much that, so much havoc that can be ripped, whether it's conditioned disease, infections, if we are not really intentional about care, intentional about how we talk about it and making sure that the

awareness and the education is accurate. Yeah, yeah, yeah for me, you know, and I appreciate this conversation, But as as a man throughout years, you know, I don't think a lot of women are aware of the hygiene of the vagan vagina, the vagina like a lot of there's there are there are a lot more women who don't smell fresh than actually do. And I'm just trying to figure out like why, what like what does that come from? What is what does that mean? And do they even know?

It's like for me, I think a lot of them, and they don't seem to be aware, you know. And it's not like they shore these are grown women. They don't really seem to be aware. So I'm trying to figure out, like what does that come from? How do we combat it? Like, what what is what's going on?

From men everywhere? We want to know. But that's what that takes us to what you were talking about the care because you see things like men that don't realize that before they have oral sex with a woman, they need to brush the they need to wash their hands after,

like things get annoying. But if you're holding your cell phone and you're handling your keys, so after you wash your hands, if you pick up your cell phone that hasn't been clean and then you want to put your hand in a woman's vagina, that's how these odors and other things happen. So it's gotta be if you're having sex with people or a person, that person has to be as informed. I would think about things that they need to do so that you're helping one another. But

there are other reasons. So you go ahead for me. And I wanted to say one thing for me. Sorry guest, we don't have a guest on this show. I'm looking to that, but I just want to say just to combat that, because I have all of those things you're talking about thing my life. I didn't do it with certain women right, and they still weren't They didn't smell, like I didn't wash my hand every time, I didn't resh my I didn't do all of those things and they still didn't smell so I don't I don't know

if that is the direct correlation to little yes. And then I got something to say, Well, I have one word that's very important. Well, two of them actually food and stress. Okay, so two things that really impact our

pH balance. Um, and pH balance affects what you're talking about, my brother and my son, okay, my son, when you're talking about everything from the the odor, the stickiness, the texture, um, these things are affected by our food what we consume, and our stress is affected by what we consume mentally and emotionally. Right, So think about that, um, when you are having high cortisol levels. And I say this because a lot of brothers are why a lot of women

are stressed. Okay, A right, some of these toxic relationships, all right, so let's look at both sides of the of course, you know, and we have to love ourselves enough to keep toxic relationships out. Um. But then there's also what we're consuming food wise, it can throw off our pH balance. That's a big thing, okay. And a sugar is a big deal because it causes an overgrowth of candida. All right. A lot of times we're going back to the stress thing. What we eat to try

to comfort ourselves. You eat things that are bad for us, things that are bad for our bodies. And then the other thing are the soaps. Okay, it's very important that we use things that are friendly to the cookie, friendly to the cookie. All right. Um. I say that because I have a daughter, she's eleven, and I'm already having your say no, no no, no, we don't use soap. If you don't have soap, you don't have a good a

good wash that is um that supports your overall body. pH. Just use water, right because the soap will create all kinds of other habit right. So, and gut health is very connected to it as well with my song. So that goes back to the food because if your microbiome is in balance, which is your gut health, it will read havoca and that's where you have things like b V and yeast and all those things. I hope that helps.

I was just gonna say though, that it showed that some people you don't have to do with, some people don't have those issues, will do. But I think also the thing that and maybe the odor is one part, but one thing that we were already talking about earlier. My son is a lot of women don't even tell you about the discomfort that they're experiencing. I don't even know that something is going on, except if there is an older like that's at the point that it's at

its worse when you will actually hear about it. But the burning sensation, the itchyness, and other things, you don't even know what's going on, and we will just hide it because in our minds, we're wired to think we have to please our man and have sex even when

we're uncomfortable. Preach. I think, you know, I think it's very unfortunate because just listening to me, and I don't even understand how women enjoy these like this mind state that a lot of women go into relationships with it's it doesn't even seem enjoyable, Like you saying we you told about you gotta please the man, you gotta have sex when you're uncomfortable. You you can't say things about this.

You you're not really like she she was expressed earlier that a lot of women aren't having organsts on like I don't even know why somebody if if if sex was like that to me, if it was taught that to me, and I had to deal I just don't even want to do it because I don't even I don't even for me, It's like, what is what? How do you enjoy it? When you have all of these things that you're actually dealing with that actually take you away from you not even clim maximums of the time.

You're not comfortable, you're going through this, Well, I don't know, like what what is? What is the good part about it? Well? That presupposes that you're able to have a healthy relationship. Right, So if we have a healthy relationship, then you can talk about these things. Right, I have a safe relationship where I'm able to be vulnerable. I am healthy and in our our communicationless level is healthy where we can talk about those things that we kind of feel very

very insecure about. But now take it on the flip side where a woman is really just hungering for security. Um, what's on the flip side of what you talked about my song? Right? So if I say I'm uncomfortable, if i say I'm not happy, if I say all these things, there's a culture out there that somebody's gonna be like, I'm going onto the next person. Are you too much

to handle? Right? Or this is too much drama um, and I think there's a lot of fear that's connected to it, and that to me goes back to the toxicity of wait a minute. You know, my intimacy is very special, and that means I only want to have it in a relationship where somebody is is safe enough where I can say this is cool, this is not cool. I'm going through something. I'm going through a health challenge and you're I'm not afraid that you're gonna walk away.

And that starts with valuing ourselves enough to say that I deserve that right. How much of this do you think is like Grandmama and them faults and you know, great Grandmama's fault because we have been taught to please our man and don't worry about you getting pleased because that's not important. Sex is really about a woman giving

a man what he needs. So how much of it do you think is just what we've been taught being You know, it's just wrong, like something And I know it because I heard plenty of that as a young person growing up. And the sad part about it, Coach Jesse, is you hardly heard anything because it was all the secrets going on in the room when they closed the

door and they sat and then talked. The women and the men definitely didn't bring it up because if they talk to you about anything sexually related, that was a family crisis. So the only time you did hear something was when a person was telling you what you need to do for your man or how you that's it, Like you didn't really get any real sex education until

you had your mentor that's it. And of course the soap thing, Yes, we learned about soap because all of us use the wrong soap at least once, and it set you on the only So what do you think how how much of it is our training from our older you know, grandparents specifically grandmother's absolutely, Um, you hit the nail right on the head, okay, because generationally, you know, think about even in the church, we were taught that you know that men need sex, but women, you know

you need affection, right, and affection is not that doesn't mean you need you need sexual pleasure. And that sets you apart me thinking like, okay, so it's not really about me being happy sexually, it's about him being happy sexually. That's the wrong path, right, And then it was like, well, you know, you gotta plead Like you said, grandma, you gotta please your man, you gotta please your spouse, you

gotta please your partner. But what about my needs? So we have been conditioned and correct we've been conditioned to not even think about that our needs in that regard and how they need to be met, and how we need to actually have a value for our own sexual pleasure and health are in our own enjoyment. Right, that's a big deal. So when we were growing up, like you just said, only talk. Oh, oh, you're getting to be a woman. Now you got your cycle. What does

that mean? Oh, that's because you could get pregnant. Now, okay, So it was not about you know, what that journey looks like, what that journey can look like. It was about what to protect you from. That was the condition, right. So it was very fear based. It wasn't based around possibility. It wasn't it wasn't based around you know, the kind of life you want to build and you want to actually create for yourself and it being a duality of both sides. So I think it's time out, like you know,

it is time out for those kinds. There are things that traditions that are great, and then there are traditions that we need to throw out, just like the hamhocks. But we'll get to that later. So we skipped straight into this. We didn't even you know, we didn't get into you, like what what made you want to become a woman's health activists? Like what was your journey? Oh? Um, I like to say, I, you know, I became a

women's health activists because I went through my own crisis. Um. I you know, at the age of thirty, I, UM, twenty years ago. I wanted to um, yeah, she's awesome as yeah. And he likes to say if you take care of it though, Um, so Hobby and I, you know, we'll be married four years and we were like, it's time to to to grow our family. And um, thirty years old, I was like, I'm feeling right, this is good. And we tried to conceive. Six months down the road,

nothing's happening. Um. And I learned at that point when I went to the g y N that I was one of the of black women battling fibroids by age fifty. Now, I didn't know it was a pandemic. I just happen to know. I had five boards at that time, I didn't know what that meant, but that precipitated a journey of UM what I called my million dollar baby journey, because those fibroids that I battled for fourteen years actually caused infertility for ten years. Okay, infertility for ten years,

which required me to have five IVF cycles. I know you hear the cash registering and when I say in vitro fertilization, because that's like dollars a pop right easily. And UM. In the middle of that a miscarriage which was devastating UM and being hospitalized for more than a hundred plus days combined UM. And even when we finally were con you conceived with the fifth IBF cycle, UM, we thought everything was fantastic. It was rate. This was if God had answered our prayers. UM. At twenty one weeks,

I find out that the five boards have returned. And I had just had a myomectomy six months before this, not even UM which was my third five words surgery. The fibers had returned, and now where my baby was fighting for her life for the fire boards. And they told me that literally, the doctor said to me, you

might want to consider terminating this pregnancy. That took us ten years to get okay, ten years to get to that point and you know, uh to make I know, you know, I said, uh, you know, we're people of faith and we're not giving up on this pregnancy and said, no, no, we it took us right there quit an important question and I don't mean to stop your story, but this is no Please. Did you have a moment of feeling like you're gonna lose your husband because you couldn't make

this happen? Did you go through that or were you good? Solid? So great question? Um at the fourth IVF cycle after it, now, my husband is incredibly supportive. Shout out Mark Thompson, um uh. And he was always, you know, man of faith, very supportive always there. After our fourth IBS cycle, which was a failure, like I hit a wall and I was like, oh my god, what am I gonna do? I I can't do this anymore. And he doubled down on the

supporting opposite. He was like listen and he didn't because I felt at that need to me because you know what you were saying, like I have to give him a child, like you know that pressure. He was like no, no, I said, what do you I said, I said, let's pray. What what is God telling you? Because right now I don't even want another surgery. I don't want to like. I was like, I want to adopt. You know what I'm saying, because if I have another surgery, it's gonna

be all kinds of complications. And he was like, no, no, he said, baby, I'm not gonna tell you what guy said to me. He said, because this is your body, I want you to pray and you decide whatever you choose. I'm rolling with that because this is your life that's on the line. And you know, I'm that That level of support and respect for me was huge, and I needed it because at the end of the day, I needed to know that that decision was not because I was trying to please him, right that I knew that

it was part of my destiny. So grateful, But I know I have a lot of clients, though, who have lost their spouses in the infertility journey. I have a lot of clients who have you know, have have been down that road and struggled in it. You know. I literally just had a client tell me the other day she's having her third miracle baby, and right now the marriages in crisis. Mhm, So continue on you you you went through so but fay so you know, so we went through the process of you know, I said no,

we're not giving up, and they hospitalized me. I was in the hospital and they said, oh my god, you're not gonna make it seventy two hours. We're gonna have to do an emergency C section. This is this is this is a harbor because it went worse. Long story short, eight weeks later to the tune of eight weeks later because of a god, a Miracle's God, miraculous God that I served right that I was on the operating table because they said, we're gonna do a C section, this

is time. Now the baby is actually healthy enough to come out. And um my heart stopped on the operating table and all I know I heard them say, Mrs Thompson, you're you know, we have to put you under because something's wrong. And I met. I learned the next day that I had a little girl. Thank god, I live to see it. Um. I was what you call a near miss, not immortality in black maternal health. Thank god. Um. But I had a little girl named Nia Thompson, who

was born at two and a half pounds incredible. So my journey, I I like to say, when when I birthed her, she birthed me into this work. She burnt me into this purpose because I had no idea. God turned my test into a testimony. Because Essence published a profile of my story, it went viral and all of a sudden, women all around the world telling me, Oh my god, your story has given me hope. Oh my god, I'm I'm in this phase of the cycle. So that now made me say, wait a minute. I thought this

was my help, my own personal health. But then I learned it was a pandemic. I learned it literally was affecting up to nine percent of black women and UM, and then I became UM an advocate and an activist because I said, wait a minute, you know, we can't be alone. I started off saying, God, we just can't be alone. We can't be uh silent and um, you know,

suffering and silent. And that's really what sparked me on this journey to becoming an author and eventually founding our our online women's help platform called the detox now dot com. Tell us, you know, we we talked about one aspect of you know the big thing that I think everybody can enjoy that conversation and learn something from it. When we talk about women's couches. Absolutely, there's so many other

things happening with us from a health perspective. What would you say as some of the what are you talking to your clients about the most, especially in our age demographic, which would be somewhere probably from maybe twenty five to fifty in there. What are some of the things that you're talking to us about. Yeah, I love that question. So you know, first of all, you know, first given on it, Tonka Mallory, because I have to say you

inspired us, UM. You know, you know your book State of Emergency, UM really inspired my current campaign that we just launched. It's a p s A called you Know My Estrogen, My Body, My Choice, and it's all about the Black women's health, Black women's health State of Emergency, And the reason we're focusing on that is because we

need to know what's going on with our estrogen. Estrogen is connected to if estrogen is too high or it's too low, It's connected to so many conditions and how it's affecting our body, and then what choices we have available to us because black women's health is in a state of emergency. We are suffering, we are infertile. As I mentioned, we are dying, especially specifically black women. You have women who are dealing with when I talk about

the suffering, you know, women's pain. We just talked about it from women being little girls where our pain is normalized, all right, Our pain is normalized, and we're taught that it's you're you're bleeding heavy, you're having heavy cramping, you're heavy, heavy pain. Um, that's normal. And because we're told it's normal, and there's so many studies that say are pain is dismissed, which is why it leads to um, women dying all right,

women being diagnosed too too late. Right, um. And so we're talking about the fact that, hey, if you're in pain, you're suffering. That's not okay. Right. Let us first of all, let's turn around and say, you know what the echo chamber that says from the dominant voices of the physicians and the family members that say it's okay that you're in pain, that is normal for black women to be in pain. Let's counter that echo chamber and say no,

let's actually normalize balance. Let's normalize health. Let's normalize normalize healing. And that starts by saying, wait a minute, what is my pain telling me? Right? When we look at the statistics specifically of black women, as I mentioned up to women, black women have five words by age fifty, right, you know the symptoms that are associated with that. Then you have of black women are dealing with infertility. Leading causes of infertility are fibords, right, and then you have endomesriosis

and pey costs. Um. Black women are i mentioned earlier, three times more likely okay to have five words and up to ninety percent dealing with them um, dealing with infertility. And then when it comes to cancer, African American women, we have the highest mortality rate. Okay, so we're suffering, we're infertile, and we're dying and it's time to stop. So for us, it's you know what, let's first of all, expose the fact that it's not okay, a right, because

it's we're told it's normal. Just shut up if you you go to the doctor, Oh, your pain is normal, it's just menstrual pain. No. But you know what, fast forward, do you know that that cycles that are that are heavy, very painful if they are unnoumed, untreated um and you're not dealing with the root issue. Their studies now they're even indicating that when women get into peri perimenopause, and you talked about that age, that those fibroids can actually

lead to other cancers or actually become cancerous. And I've never heard them. It is a I've never heard. I well, I know now, but when I was young, no one ever told us that the menstrual cycle was a cleansing period. I didn't know anything, but I just thought we had the curse of death that you just bled and it was basically associated with you're getting pregnant and that's it. So I didn't know anything about the fact that your body was actually cleansing itself and pumping out that was

you know, no good. Oh, I guess the oxygen in the blood something about that. I heard something, and I still don't know all the details that I know you didn't clean that. So what's happening is your body prepares for once you have your cycle. Your body prepares for the ability to conceive every month, okay, and if you don't conceive, then it tears down, it sheds that lining

every month. Okay, so that is a cleansing. And what's happening though, is when there is irregular cycles, there is a When I talked about estrogen being imbalanced, and what that means is estrogen is either too high or it's too low. Okay. If estrogen is dominant, it leads to conditions like fibroids, like p costs. It's it's um. It's instrumental in terms of setting the stage for the development of these conditions as well as even infertility issues, UM,

thyroid issues, weight gain. A lot of women see weight gain and they just think. They don't realize it's actually connected to a hormone balance. Okay, they don't realize that it's telling them something. So we're wanting to educate women that you're pain, your symptoms are actually telling you something, and you know it's time to actually listen to them because otherwise you're now going to be having these conditions

and at more advanced levels. And then when estrogen is too low, it's associated with things like osteoporosis and heart and heart issues. Right. Um. For my women who are in paramenopause stage or women who have had are in menopause where their estrogen is even low. Were right? Because of that, they're at high risk of osteoporosis. How do you check your estrogen level? It's a blood test, you get your doctors. But then remember, so there's the blood test,

but your body is the first test. That's what we want to equip our women to know, right, what is my body telling me? All right? So the first education is your cycle is supposed to be normal. That means three what is a normal cycle? Three to five days of bleeding? All right? You're supposed to according to the Office of Women's Health, the National Institute of Health, you're only supposed to bleed about three to five tablespoons of blood, okay.

And it's supposed to be just discomfort, not heavy pain. Okay. So and I know we see this our clients when they're on the other side, we see the happy period, all right, they live. So there are the clocks, not not that's you're not supposed to have plotting. That's only if your body is going through something. It's telling you something. There's either an abundance of estrogen your body is it's absolutely not art of a normal cycle, right, So that's

telling you something. See you just said is clouding not normal. No, it's not part of a normal cycle. Right, So understanding if it's abnormal, let's look at and let's value our voices because something inside is used telling you this ain't right.

You know when when? But but you're being countered. Remember those that echo chamber I talked about, You're being countered by echo chamber that says it's not bothering, you don't bother it, or no, that you just you know, black women just bleed heavy or no, you just have painful cycles, so you ignore it. And I like to say, if we don't listen to our our pain when it is a whisper, it will become a screen that literally uproots

and it disrupts our lives. Right, So that's really important for us to become educated about it, and when we become educated about it, to know that we have solutions. Because the other thing we're told, why are black women the first three we are the highest recipients of HYS directories three to four times more likely. I was talking to a young woman twenty five years old, right, she's her testimonies incredible. And the other thing we did as part as candidate this campaign, we did an audit of

several testimonies and oh my god, I can't wait. You know, we're posting them on the way they're actually on the website.

They're gonna be amazing in terms of supporting women, because what we said is we have to put out stories that for people to actually hear that possibility of having a balanced life, that there's something possible outside of the hy directory you're told you're supposed to have, or the birth control they tell they tell you have to be on for non contraceptive reasons that actually lead to these other conditions because they caused estrogen dominance. Right, We're not

told these things. Right. So she was told at twenty five years old, she was very small, but all all five big fire boards, she had a fire word, the chad fire words, with a belly about six months and size of a six months pregnancy. And they were like, you know what, you can't do anything to it. They didn't tell her any lifestyle changes, they didn't tell her anything she had in her power to do with it.

And then the conversely, I have I have clients who right away they look at you said, oh, you know, you're in your forties, just go ahead and have HYS directory, don't care if you're you have planning, and it's not even just about having a baby, Tamka, it's because that

organ is vital to your hormonal health, your uterus. Let's dismiss this idea that if you don't want to have children, it's okay to remove your uterus, because your uterus is so critical to your your body's overall hormonal health, which literally triggers and controls everything going on in your body, that it will literally disrupt everything and then you're trying to play catch up. Right, So for us, it's educating women that you don't have to live like that. You

don't have to live like that. There are other options or surgery, you don't have to If you want to have surgery, that's up to you. But you also want to think about the root things that are in your control. I think it's up to seven percent of conditions and diseases, only seven percent are actually um driven by genetics. That means like nine per cent we have control of because

it's social determinants. It is things like our nutrition, it's things like our stressed levels, right, our safety, our security, it's those things. Access to care. Access to health care, okay, those are things that affect our our overall health in our conditions. So it's it's providing solutions, providing education. That's the conversation we're having. That's the conversation. We're looking to

normalize balance. We're looking to normalize balance. So just listening to you, you know, it's it's so much that we just don't know, right, Yeah, So, like, what are the what are the foods? Like, I know, I know that you're vegan, So what do you think the dangerous foods that intake that women are in taking that are detrimental to their bodies and to their health. Okay, great question, because I think that's one of the biggest um hurdles is the food. Right, food will be your medicine or

it will be your poison. Um. And I want to start by dismissing the idea that the only way you can have a healthy diet is to be vegan, all right, or to be plant based, because it really is it depends on the severity of your condition. It depends on what your condition is. Right, And then there's this is for me, it's take steps towards help. So there are things that the them when you talk about like the

biggest culprits. The biggest culprits are going to be UM things that are like soy based, UM, meat that are you know, if you're gonna have meat, you want to make sure it's grass beed organic UM if you're gonna have me. But then if you're dealing with five words, understand, it's gonna fuel them, okay. Um. Then there's dairy. Dairy is a huge one because of how it it feeds um inflammation, it fuels information, it fuels and that that

fibers and those kind of conditions are inflammatory conditions. UM. Alcohol is a big one. Uh. It's it's a big one because a lot of people that's their panacea. It's how it's it's what they sue themselves with, so minimizing that UM. And then so I said Darius and me I said alcohol. Uh. And the other thing is gluten. Gluten is huge and gluten is in so many things from breads to postas. It's a it's an ingredient that a lot of people are learning about now because it's

this whole gluten free movement. But gluten is is it really disrupts our gut health and our gut is like the center of our overall health. Okay, so when you talk about like things that are will help, cucifers, vegetables are really important. So I say to people, you know, it's not about doing everything all at once. Un us you're in a crisis. So the people that come to us, my son, they're in a crisis. They're like, I need help right now. I'm really I'm really culturkey, literally help

me because I'm drowning. Right then they'll do like our waterfast, they'll do our balance program. And that's fine. But some people who was like that's just looking to try to make changes because it's more of a of a gradual thing. Adding more cruciferous vegetables into your diet, like Bob Joy, like broccoli right, like um, you know, purple cabbage and and kale and um, these things. Having more of them and not you know, drowned in Greece and devoid of nutrients.

But having those more in your diet will help. And and and if you're gonna have me, make it a smaller proportion of your food and more of the vegetables, right, more of the fruits and vegetables that are gonna help overall, and then making sure that, Um, when it comes to your you know, caffeine levels. People, some people love coffee, but caffeine is one of those things that fuels estra and as well it's highly estrogenic, so maybe for you.

There have been people who they said me, oh my god, it felt like my fire birds went you know, they grew like on steroids recently. And we said, okay, so let's take a look at what's what's what have you been consuming? Oh my god, I've been working so hard. I've been drinking a lot of coffee because I need to stay up or whatever it may be that's been going on their lifestyle, and it's been traced to that, you know, I mean, because caffeine can be so it

can it has some health benefits. However, it also if you're esgen dominant with your estrogen level is too high, it can cause um that the fueling of those conditions. Yeah, last night I had a terrible eat night, Like I had some what was it, steaking cheese, egg row things

so good, so good. Um, And so it was just a bad night because I'm not supposed to be eating much cheese and to stick to like feta and other So the cheese is like that, but I'm not allowed to have like cheddar and that nature because of cholesterol. And the food is hard, you know, the food is hard, especially for us, because I've watched especially my son, he only eats um. What is your thing? Are you a vegetarian or a prestian? I tried every now and then I might eat a little bit of chicken, but I

don't eat beef. For any other media, yeah, I mean, but it's hard to find things like I watch him struggle wanting to do right, like trying. He doesn't. He would never eat any trash at all, period, except the fact that you're somewhere and there's nothing, and it's like what do you eat especially when you're arriving at ten o'clock at night and the only thing that's available is like the you know, the the the what you call

those wings, the hot wings, you know like that. It's just like all this and now that I'm trying to eat better since I got this really bad cholesterol report back from my physical is, I find myself really struggling, like Okay, there's pizza, there's you know, there's there are things with all the things that I'm not supposed to be eating everywhere. Butter. Butter is in everything. It's used, you know, so often. Um, you know, just like all the stuff, you know, the things, so I don't have

to explain it. And it is really hard. And I try to eat because Quani Food told us have two salads per day, so I'm like trying to get into the salad thing. But even finding a good salad can be difficult. Yeah, it's I'm not gonna it's so part of it is, you know, this is why you know, the number one thing you can do is obviously prepare

your meals at home. However, everybody doesn't have that, you know, and I'm not somebody who just loves to cook all the time, right, I mean, we have amazing you know, recipe guy. We partnered with a great chef. You know, it's our in fiber recipe guy. We've partnered with Chantelle Lesbie Vegan to make easy and delicious recipes for people

who are gonna prepare them at home. But when you're on the road, Yeah, for me, it's it's let's dismiss this idea that if it doesn't have meat or or uh these other conditions that it's not food because a lot of times you can find Like for me, if I go somewhere, I'm looking for the fruits, I'm looking for the veggies, um and and my concept is that

is a meal. Right, So if I if I think about it that way, if you go to eat at a restaurant, they're gonna have some real veggies, they're gonna have steam, They're gonna have something available, right, um something? Then are you hungry afterwards? I mean, listen, we gotta let you go because we were just gonna keep talking and talking and talking. But are you hungry? Do you find yourself still being hungry after or you're not? No? So Number one. The other thing is steam, brown rice.

Brown rice is very accessible. Um and I you know, that's a good source of proteins. So you want to make sure you have a good source of protein like something like a brown rice like keenoa. There are foods available. And the biggest thing is this that if we're looking for it, and if we decide that, you know what, my health let's go back to that state of emergency. Right when we say balance is possible, it starts by saying prioritizing my health. I'm not gonna get I'm not

gonna get balanced until I prioritize my health. Right those who are in the dominant culture are not gonna give up power until they understand that, you know what, it's gonna be taken from me. I don't want my life taken from me because I'm not taking care of my health. So I have to decide that, you know what, come, no matter what. Right now, this is what's most important.

And for us, you know, the other thing is we we create supplements like we have our Our Balance Daily plus Mass Kit, which is a women's health reproductive program that helps to restore harmonal balance UM, to improve menstrual cycles, to promote healthy weight, which is really important as well as prevent those helps your body to do these things. Making sure you're getting the right supplements is really important. Maybe you can't deep everything with your diet, but let's

start by making sure you have the right supplements. Because we have We've seen women who because they were starting to feel, oh my god, my cycle is better, and I just started taking the supplements and then oh my god, I feel so good now that I'm more encouraged to

take better care of myself. You see what I'm saying, And We've seen it over and over that once they have that support and they start to feel what it's like to feel amazing that, you know, they'll be like, oh my god, now I am willing to go that extramount. Like when they do our water fast right, which may be a part of they may start their balance that far. They're like, oh my god, I can't eat for fourteen days.

It's a water fast. And I say this because a lot of times we think we're about to die to Maka and my son, but the truth is we're really just thirsty. We think we're so hungry, but our bodies are saying, no, you know what, you're really just thirsty because the body it experiences dehydration and hunger the same. And I say that because sometimes we'll reach for something that's bad for us to eat because we think we're

about to pass out. But with the body is actually telling you, Oh, you really just need some coconut water. Oh you really just need some water. And you would be surprised if you took yourself less off your water. You may have you may have time to get to that next spot, or have a little bit more planning time to say, let me get something that's healthier to eat. That's a critical piece. But if you don't have the

support and the understanding of the education, knowledge, then knowledge. Yes, yes, I just want to thank you so much for your time and you're you're so clear. You know, oftentimes people say they are experts in certain areas and it's difficult to understand what they're Um, you know what they know. But it's not that way with you. You're very, very clear.

And I feel I definitely learned from this conversation. And I think the main thing that is so important is talking about these issues from nuts to bolts and not making it a backroom conversation between a few women, but ensuring that our men are a part of it, because hey, when we're out to eat, a man can look over at his wife and say, hey, you've had four drinks this week or you know tonight, maybe you know, we shouldn't do that because we need to preserve your health.

Hey let's not eat this today. Hey, let's do you know, do different things, because sometimes you do need a partner to help you out and to have somebody that's in your health journey with you. Um, so you know it is what it is. I mean, either you want to live or you don't. And that's what I'm beginning to realize. I've got to do it so I can make all the excuses I can't find this, I don't like this that in a third, or I can order that salad with my little scallops on the side and mix it

all up together. And let me tell you something, if I can share this, most many women who found our program they found it because some of their either their husbands or their boyfriends found it and said, you know what, check this out. So I want to shout out there are men out there that are looking for and they

actually have turned around. And the ones who've had miracle babies or whatever, it's because they did get in the trenches and do the program with them right or they said, you know, if this is all you're gonna eat, this

is all we're gonna eat as a family. So shout out to the brothers and the family members who are supporting and saying, you know what, our health is going to Let's make generational health our focus, right, Let's normalize this idea that our real wealth is our health first, because you can't enjoy any of the physical wealth if you're not healthy if you're not here right and understand that balance is possible, it really is. We're here for you.

Please take advantage of our free are free weekly group consults. Whatever you're dealing with. We want you to know you're not alone that can get tete you to get your products because you have all these products that they need for their health, you know what I'm saying, and they need your coaching, like tell us, how do we get you? We need you? Thank you so much. UM. Well, you know, for us, it's people over profits and that means we make things available at every level wherever you are, and

that starts off with our free weekly group console. So please contact us at the detox now dot com um where I'm coach Jesse, coach G E S S I E on I G I'm very active UM the website, you can get your free free food list, you can get your your group console, or you can book a private one. And this is important because that's where it starts, right. It starts by looking at your case and saying, hey, what are your goals, what's going on? How can we

help you? And then we have a community. You know, my company name, the illegal name is Detox Living because we're calling people to a life of what we call detox living, which is life of toxic thoughts, people, habits and foods, right, and that is what we're offering you at the Detox Now dot com. All right, wants to give me one to thank you. You have been very informative. You do not look a day over thirty one. Hopefully what I'm saying so fifty one is amazing. But just

continue to do what you do. You know, hopefully somebody's couchie might be saved based on this conversation. You know what I'm saying, life, life might be saved. A brother's need listen, brothers, man get it because sometimes the women don't know about it, like the lady. The woman just said,

the brothers bring introduced to him. So brothers, sometimes you might have to reach out to Coach Jesse because a lot of them don't know or these sometimes they end to now, so you might have to give a little you know what I'm saying, pushing over there. So we appreciate you, Coach Jesse, and we support the men too. You know, there's d and a lot of other things that there were help them to I blood pressure. But the sisters they got my heart. Thank you so much,

Coach Jesse. Please go back to your day. Thank you so much for breaking into your schedule to be a guest on Street Politicians. We can't wait to have you back. Thank you so much for having me um. It's true blessing. I think Coach Jesse and and the things that she's talking about, and I mean she she knows so much. You could just get sort of caught up in listening to all of the details. And it's good. You know, we we had Queen of Four. We've had several opportunities

to talk about this. I feel like, you know, we all no matter who you are, where you come from, you got to come through a woman. There's no other way to get here than through a woman's body. So at the end of the day, we are in a place where, you know where, I feel like we can finally break down the barry years of misinformation or lack of information because we're doing it in so many other areas, and we need to take care of our women, all of us, so that we can continue to procreate. So

I think it's a real simple concept. We don't gotta make a chance of difficult long debate. It just is what it is. We want to continue to appropriate. We want to make sure that our race is strong, that we have more children and more life. And that's how you get that's how you get it done. Take care

of your bodies. You know, I'm I'm I'm happy to have these conversations because I got a lot of friends and they all come back with the you know, I've been blessed not to really have to deal with that in my later life, but a lot of my friends and younger guys talk about, you know, women not smelling good. So you know, I'm pushing more over the coach jesse You know, you gotta because if you're in a relationship, you gotta kid care enough about the women and care

about yourself to try to do something better for it. So, you know, the older justice every man in the world is most afraid. It's like, I don't want to smell that stinking thing. Nobody what noet of that. So shout out to coach jesse Man and the wealth of knowledge she has. So hold another topic. You know, as we talked about women, black women, you know, brings me to mind.

I don't get it. I was in the courthouse, we were in the courthouse in Houston, Texas a few days ago where the verdict for the officer who killed Pam Turner was read, and you know, it was one I think it was one of the most disappointing things I've ever experienced. Man. We because this was this was one of those times there was instances where it wasn't speculation, where we didn't think something happened. We literally watched this

woman being executed on tape. To see a verdict come back and say that the officer it was not guilty. It just it hurt me. It hurt me seeing her daughter, you know, seeing her sister, seeing her family, you know, it was it was painful for me, you know. And unfortunately when that, you know, we hadn't been in the courtroom prior to that, we hadn't heard the whole case.

You know, we wanted to go out there to support the family, you know, So we flew out there that day to support the family and be with them and let people know because unfortunately, there wasn't enough people there. There was I didn't see people outside, I didn't see anything, So there was no real support for this black woman who was literally murdered, you know, you know, so we wanted to go and be support to the family and to you know, Ben Crump, who is the civil attorney

on the case. And unfortunately, when we did go into the courtroom and I watched the jury come back into the room, spirit told me, you know that it wasn't right. You know, it was three black jurors. And I know we say that, and I don't know why we think that, but you know, they say a lot of your skin folk as your kin folks, and and I'm not saying that about them because I don't know what their circumstances are.

I know from understanding, you know what I've heard. I've never actually been in the jury, but I met my grandmother being in a jury and afterwards explaining to me what the process was her being the sole black woman in the room where it was white men and all types of other people trying to tell her to change what she felt, you know, and and how. And my grandmother was the strongest person I ever seen in my life.

And to know that it was times when she was like she was getting a little frustrated, but she said she just she went with her heart, you know, and she wasn't gonna allow anybody to change because that's just who she was. But you know, to see those black will come out there, and they seemed like there was a fight for a while, just based off the fact that they were there a couple of days. I know that they went through things in there, and the fact

that they didn't come back and ask any questions. It was in a deliberation for over two days, showed that there was a back and forth and it was just we think you're innocent. And they were probably one or two people who were fighting, you know, I mean, we think he's guilty. I mean, we think he's innocent, and one or two people probably fighting because they felt that he was guilty, and it just fell apart at one

point and it's like they probably got beat down. But I just wish that we have more strength beyond whether or not they should have held the line or not,

which I think they should have. And I'm gonna say, when when you said earlier that you don't want to say all for all, all knight and is not in this situation, no but all skinfolking chickenfolks, right, but no, no, no no. But what I'm saying is I don't think we can give them a pass because there have been other jury decisions where when the jurors, when when the jury uh does not come back with what we believe we saw in front of our eyes, right, we know

the truth. Right, we have said and we've called those jurys out, and we've said this is some bullshit, and and we've talked about how those jurors we feel fell victim to the system and or some of them were racists as well. And I think it's okay for us to say that the same not the same exact words, of course, but to chastise and or or maybe that's not the right word, but to critique at least the three black jurors that no good and damn well the judge was being biased and that the the entire case

was corrupted by the judge's behavior. They know it happened. They know it happened more than we do because they sat there and they saw it. We heard about his second hand, but they watched in real time a judge sit right in front of them and do everything possible to lend support to the defense, knowing that all the things that we needed, that that that that jury should have been hearing about, because by the way, the only way a jury, the only way a judge gets to

block information about mental health and things like that. The jury is not stupid. They hear you bring it up as a prosecutor, and then it's what you call it, um, it's it's subjected or but you heard it, and then what they tell you is that you can't use that information at all. And I'm not in Listen, nobody is saying, first of all, fine, I get it, jury instructions are

what they are. You can't use it. That's whatever, Because guess what, I'm sure that the other way around, plenty of people are using their biases and their opinions about black people when they are making decisions in court rooms that even if even if certain things is supposed to be thrown out, they still have decided that the black man or the black woman, but particularly the black man is a criminal and they are going to find the

motherfucker guilty. I don't they don't care about the instructions and the right way to do whatever they're gonna do. That happens all the time. We're the ones that we're trying to do it the right way. Fine, I'm with that. I support it. If that's what we're doing. We should do that. Let's try to do do things the right way. But I will say this, they knew that if they decided that things were not being done properly, they could at least hang the jury or hung make a hung jury.

Why didn't they do that? Why didn't they at least do that? Now I refused. I would love to interview them. I would I would love to I would love to sit down and interview if we can find those three jurors, I would love to interview them, and just understood everybody else. I get they you know, but I want to know what what was going through the minds of those three jurors. It's and particularly this one black young she was kind of younger girl that she's kind of younger, and she

looked like she was having some discomfort. She looked like she was having some disc I want to know. I really just want to understand, man. So I really just don't get how we watched the women get executed and there was no justice for her. So yeah, she was executed, and she was executed on the streets by the officer and in the courtroom by the judge. And it's just disgusting and that's that. So I'm done for today. You you you you, you have your I don't get it.

Has ended the show for me, r P. The Pam Turner, my condoles is and everything goes out to the family, you know, but we're still trying to get justice at the federal level. They don't the fight. Don't give up man, r P to them. Once again, we appreciate you all for joining Street Politicians, the place with the streets in politics meet. I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika, Mary is not gonna always be wrong when we will both

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