Black Men Vote, but have the candidates earned it?

show today. Duties today. I'm gonna do my grandma duties today. Uh. You know, I wanted to just also make sure that folks who are listening in that you all know something that I posted about this weekend. And sometimes we're taping days in advance, so when you all are listening to the show, you're listening to things that we've taked some time ago, maybe three days or two days. Sometimes it's really quick because you know, life happens and we need

to discuss very very important topics. But there are times when we're taping our show in advance, um, and you know, and around the schedule of guests and what happen, and so in those instances sometimes you all are hearing us speaking on issues and it might not necessarily fit with some of the other things that's happening at the time. So we're working on that, but just wanted to folks to know it. I wrote it on my page, my song.

You reposted it. But UM, I think it's important also that we stated on this show so that you all will be aware of how things happen. And um, you know, we do our best to stay as current as possible with the news, uh, and so you know, keep sending those topics, as my song would say, keep us up to speed on all the things that's happening, and make sure you hit up at Street Politicians Pod where we're checking the d m s and we're learning more about issues, people, things,

the goings on of the world. So that's that on that, um. And now it is election season. There's actually early voting happening in this moment. November eighth is the day, the final day to vote. UM, I think that, Uh, there's been so much concern around a number of issues just in the media. There's all types of things happening in

the media. There's controversy there's uh, you know, a lot of just drama, a lot of pain, a lot of laughter, just all types of things going on on social media and in the media, and as a result of that, uh,

things can get drowned out. The mid term elections is something that does not get the type of attention that it needs in general, and they are, I believe, very specific reasons for why that happens, one of them being that there are actual forces that do not want us to focus on the mid terms because the men terms put people in power who are able to either push for or against the president's agenda, the federal government's agenda, and they have the ability from a local perspective to

either push things down to the ground that is coming from the top, or they can sort of willy nilly as much as possible in their own states and their own counties, so on and so forth. The reason why that's important is because many of our followers and our listeners are people who are very, very concerned about whether we should be participating in the voting process. We don't see much that is happening for black people especially, and radical change leaps and bounds and jumps for it. We

are tired of hearing. It takes time. It's been taking over four hundreds some even say five hundred years, and people want to see real progress swiftly happen in this nation. With that being said, UM and while we we know that from a federal level we have to fight like hell to get drips, what you also know is that the local government, the mid term elections determined much of what happens in your state. It also, of course determined some of the federal UH, federal legislation as well, because

you have senators running for office around the country. Shout out to our boy Gary Chambers who is in Louisiana right now running for Senate UH. And there are others around the country that are also running for those positions. So those positions are very high level federal positions, UM. And they of course have some local standing. But you have other local elected positions on the ballot. Not to mention, you have other um what is the word, uh, ballot initiatives,

so on valot initiatives. These are issues, not people that you can need to support or vote down. So in different states you have about so for instance, in Florida, a ballet initiative was whether or not to restore the voting rights of people who were convicted of felonies um in that state. And and thankfully the people which we were on the ground there with the initiative knocking on doors.

We knocked on thousands of doors. And thankfully there was an initiative past and shout out to all the people, all the leaders who were organizing in Florida. Uh, think about Desmond need and there are others who were doing incredible work in Florida. The and and of course the valid initiative passed. So this this is serious stuff. It's it's easy to just be like, oh, we don't care this and that, but no, this is on your street,

your block, your community, your schools. Uh, everything that has to do with your life is a part of the mid term election. And people who know that want to suppress your vote and stop you from going because they want to be the ones to maintain power and control. So with that being said, I'm let you speak my song because I'm running my mouth. But um I am today we have an incredible show of individuals who will come and talk to us about a particular issue, and

I let my song talk about what that issue is. Yep, we will be joined by some of my esteem colleagues and brothers and people that I just respect to talk about the black mail both and it's gonna be very critical in this election because what we realize is that black men are really divided. You know, there are a lot of black men that lean more towards conservative views and ideologies. There's certain things that as black men that the Liberal party doesn't you know, it just doesn't fit

with us, you know. So in the majority of the things we do, but there are very distinct things that I think black men are just against, you know. So we'll discuss those things, you know, and we'll talk about how important it is for us to vote. You know, a lot of us really don't even want to vote. I'm just being honest. Like having conversations with black men in our communities, they like, man, vote for what? Like

vote for who? You know, we voted. We we keep haying to vote to God, we keep haying this and that, But what what are we getting for our vote? You know? And then there's a very intentional you know, there's very intentional push from the conservative size not to get black men to vote, right, so they completely ignore the things that have happened and try to act like nothing has happening. Oh,

nothing happened. Y'all voted for this, and look we're happen nothing happened, Nothing happened, and you know, so it's it's very important for us to continue to highlight the things that are happening, to say, hey, look this is that

what happened. And then when things don't happen, let's talk about why they're not happening, you know, because they uh, you know, intentional, you know, people from the conservatives side and white have who have white supremacists mind states who are not trying to allow certain lawyers to be passed, certain you know, policies to go into effect. So those those things aren't really discussed when you're look at the media that wants to push this propaganda is just like, oh,

this president isn't doing anything. This person you voted in, you know, every democratic state isn't doing this. And I'm not I don't really go party politics, you know, I'm not nonpartisan. I go with the best what I think

is the best. But you still can't convince me that a party with ninety seven percent of the representatives inside of it are all white, that don't come from the communities that I come from that don't understand the realities that go on in those communities every day are better for me than people that I actually have grown in this movement with people that I've went in school, that I know have the same exact ideologies and understanding what

goes on in our communities. So there's a there's a deeper rooted problem within government, and I think for us, government was never really designed for blacks. It just really wasn't. So we're trying to completely shift something that was really never divided, I mean, designed for us. So we're trying to change the culture of the government. We're trying to initiate new ways of of um politic operation, We're trying

to initiate new things into it. And that takes a lot, you know, because this government is not gonna just give up its power structure. It's not just giving up the structure that's built on white supremacy all the time without a fight. So that's what we're witnessing. We're we're we're witnessing white supremacies last stand, you know, and what they're

utilize as our own. A lot of times they'll utilize people that look like us, you know, but never really don't identify with our realities most of the Unfortunately, to the black representatives that are in the Republican Party, they they're so far removed from what's going on in our communities,

our everyday lives. You know. They'll tell you they're black, and they usually picked the dog skin once to make sure the dog skin, you know, and they say, hey, this is that Like when I'm looking at Hershey Walker, and I'm just saying, and this is why it's very dangerous for me, right because Hershew Walker has one or two talking points that black men agree with, right, because

they don't do the research. You know, he's you can tell he's not educated, but he goes up there and says one or two things that he knows appeals to black man. Black men like football, so they know Hershew Walker from being a football player. So there's a level of identifying with him. But when you look at his background understand his reality, it's not the reality of the average black men in our communities. So there's this false narrative that's being pushed, and they continue to push this.

Once again, it's not about partisan politics for me, it's about understanding the system. It's about understanding the individuals, just understanding how the game is being played and understanding actually to have actual change, right, you have to go through transformation. You know, you can't. You can't think that you're gonna continue along the strang same path and look to the same people to make changes for you that have never really made changes. Most of us say, hey, neither parties

for us. Okay, we understand that. So in the process of us building something different, which I always say, because that should be the main thing that we should be doing. We should be trying to how do we build a party, not just a party, but just a voter collective, a collective voter on block with millions of people that we sit down and we come up to each you know, um participating, everybody who's running for offers and say this

is what we need as a people. We have these conversations before primaries when we're looking to see who is going to be you know, the candidate. When we have these compisations, we sit down and said, well, these are tangible things that we need. Can you provide those things? Are you willing to provide? You willing to go on the campaign trail and say this is what I'm trying to do, right, and that's what we need to do it every candidate. And then as we do that, we

can shift and we create that power. Then we can say, you know what, we want our own party. But we can't keep creating third and four parties that only get one and two percent of the vote and say and just do it as you know, just a vote of some moral conscious I don't want to. I'm tired of moral victories, right. The moral victories ship is over for me. I'm grown, I got kids, they've got kids. I want to see tangible change. I want to see things happening

in real life, in real time. So you know, this comes very critical. There's someone would say that that's that you said something that's really powerful about doing the same thing over and over again. And there are some people will say that that's the problem with voting for the Democratic Party. We are Black women are number one in terms of voting block, and black men actually are number two. Um. And so we are the absolute power base of the

Democratic Party. And I know there is a need, um and a need and a desire to move away from the party. But again to your point, you know, and there are people doing that. We have you know, the brother from UM from West Belomy from our Black Party working with alongside Puff to create a new party and do exactly what you said first of all, start with UH you know, supporting candidates, getting people together, aligning on goals, and then eventually becoming a party that has its own

uh own process in general. So we do need that, and there are people who are building it, but we've attempted to build it in the hasks. This is not the first time that people have said we want to build a part of political party. But we as a people have to decide if we are at the place where we're ready to support that party hands down, no confusion, We're in. I don't know when we're gonna get there.

I think what has been done to us in terms of the division that exists within our community is strong enough that um you know, who knows whether we will whether we'll get there anytime soon, but we certainly can get better than just throwing our votes away. And I think we should start the conversation with our guests today. As we said, we've got a great panel of folks today that are dealing with UH, the issue of voting

around the nation in different ways. Um. And each person here has a group of sort of their constituents and folks that they touch and talk up to on a daily basis. That makes this conversation well rounded. UM. And you know, I was we were just saying, my son, this election situation, this is the part that we talk about local elections, local work that also helps to push federal legislation, to either block and or support federal legislation. So this is the stuff that folks say they care about.

But yet and still we're not seeing enough people engage. And you know, I'm sure there are many reasons. I won't state them all, but I don't I would I would say from the jump as we start this conversation that we understand clearly why so many, particularly of our black men feel disenfranchised and are are you know, really just sort of trying to figure out what are other ways to address their needs and concerns than to rely on this political is them. So let me introduce the

folks who are here with us today. Um. All of them are our brothers. Reverend Jamal Bryant, who is from the Great Church in Atlanta, Georgia that I preached that one day his new birth Missionary Baptist Church. Thanks Jamal, thank you for being with us. We have Wisdom Cole from the n double A CPS, the Youth and College Director. Uh. And we have Mondale Robinson from Black Male Voter Project. If you don't know Montdale, you need to get to know him, because you know he's on the news telling

the people some things. I don't heard you saying stuff on the news, Mondale that a lot of people are afraid to say unbought and unbossed around the blackmail vote. Will be joined eventually by Congressman Jamal Bowman. Uh. And so I think he will help us to eat round out the conversation even more so, whoever wants to start, whoever wants to start on me just asked the first question. You know, I just want to know what do you

think is the biggest each of you? What do you think is the biggest hurdle for getting black men to vote? I'll jump in. Uh. Stacy Abrams is in the fight of her life trying to become governor. All of the data is coming back. She has failed, like to get any real momentum or synergy around black men. Black men feel taken for granted and have not been a part of of the conversation. And so this last ditch effort here in Georgia has been trying to really mobilize black men.

The last two presidential elections hinged on the backs of black women, but this now mid term election I think is a really uh in the strength of black mail participation. You know, I think we have to meet black men where they're at. Part of the work in terms of turnout is making sure that we're engaging particularly you know, the young black male voters, UM, and the places and

spaces that they interact in. You know, I'm thinking about, you know, the young black men who are are in college, who are into e sports, right, Like, how are we connecting with that demographic, that population of young black men. UM. How are we making sure that we are messaging appropriately UM.

Often times I feel like our population may be overlooked UM, and I think it's really important that we engage them in all aspects, and that means making sure that we're willing to go where we need to go the UM. I love that question. Bro. First of all, thank you all for having me. Let's be clear, UM, black men have everybody in the world not to participate in America's politics,

especially the electoral process. If you consider the fact that a hundred and fifty two years ago they passed the fifteenth Amendment supposedly giving us to write the vote, when an actuality, oh they gave us was the right to be the game pigs for voter suppression. You ask, what's the greatest hurdles keeping black men fro participating as a couple of them? Is not one? The first one is poverty.

Most black men live on the margins. Telling people who live on the margins they need to go vote does not ring true when they've seen no electoral change in their lived experiences. Uh. The second one is uh antipathy the world looking black man as if we're apathy, If we have a level of apathy or a slaune or notus about the election, it's not true. What's actually the one on this there's a level of antipathy hate for the very transactional nature in which blue politics and politicians

address us. Let me correct some misnomers. First of all, uh, black women are super soldiers as it pertains to our communities, and that's a fact. Black men also participating the electoral process and record numbers in their last two present elections. The world won't tell us that because what the world is doing, they're based in their voting off of exit posts to say that Donald Trump got more of the

black man vote. But in actuality, if you look at the real data, like the the real data in these states, if you look at uh the voter turnout for primaries partisan primaries, you saw it massive increase in a specific demographic a black man um not age, age didn't separate us. It was old black man who had been what the world called sporadic voters came out in increasing numbers. So considered this no demographic in Georgia in twenty had a huge increase or a larger increase than black men that

have set out the last five federal election. That means these brothers were old enough to vote for Barack Obama but did not vote for him in twenty twelve, did not vote in twenty fourteen, sixteen, or eighteen. It's about four hundred and sixty thousand brothers in Georgia that meet that. That's nearly half of the brothers that are registered. Of that four d and sixty thousand, hundred and twenty four

participated in the election. So people have this missing number based on UH exit poll, which actually started by this dumb company called Edmonds UM and they did it wrong every year, and scholars have also criticized them. But what happens is the world runs with that because it's easy narrative to say that black man sitting out with black man not voting for Democrats, when when the actuality we vote for our community more than anybody except for black women.

And the same thing is happening right now. So people keep saying that, you know, there's there's no excitement around candidates for black man, that's the wrong question to ask the black man. People did the same thing in twenty Are you excited for Joe Biden? Are you excited for or um? Uh? Also, I mean I'm sorry, yeah, they asked them also to this fectorcycle. If you're asking that black men are excited about abrams, if you're asking them they're excited about whatnot, you can probably get a hell

note from black men. And that's just the fact because that's the wrong question. Excitement is not equate if you're gonna vote or not. Right, So black men are policy voters even though the world won't tell us that. So what we know is why there may not be no excitement for the candidates. Black men are definitely turning out in record numbers. We've already we're outperforming um every demographic right now with the sporadic that's so called sporadic voters.

They're not super voters. In Georgia. Right now, black men have closed a gap between Black women, which is normally a tempera cent participation, yet it's only two percent right now. And the voters that we're turning out are our ratic voters more than our supervoters, which is a good thing because supervoters have not missed an election, so it means even if they haven't voted, they're probably still gonna vote. And if we're turning out those voters who don't normally

turn out, we're doing our damn job. M So you because I I've heard that it's not just black men, but that the numbers in terms of all young people, UM and just the black community in general is not where it needs to be in order to assure a

victory for the particular candidates, particularly in Georgia. Would you guys agree with that or you know, is that what we're saying, and and Monte, I just want to say we agree with you and stated before you all came on that black women are number one, but black men are number two in terms of the power base of the Democratic Party specifically, uh, and that it is very much so disrespectful for us to keep ignoring how much

black men do participate. However, we know that there is a major divide in terms of black men who to your point, have decided that they want to make choices that are based upon the issues they care about and less about candidates or following a particular party. But I just to go back to the point is do you all feel like the numbers across the country from what you're hearing, are down in general or do you think that it's just an issue that's in fact in black

men in this moment. Yeah, from what I'm hearing, um, particularly about young people, right like, for young folks, it is it is down. And I think what we're hoping the season election days, days before election day, folks are still turning out. Um. I just left a rally around affirmative action. I mean, from there, we are pushing our young people to make sure that they turn out. Um, and support. But again, I think, you know, when I think about young black men, I'm thinking about these issues.

I'm thinking about these policy choices. You know, oftentimes for our generation, folks come into our community days before the election making promises. But where's the plan, where's the policy? What do you do in day one? And I think we want to actually see our return on investment, right if we're gonna turn out, if we're gonna support you, Uh, the work that you actually do is going to change

our lives. You know, too often we've seen politicians cheat, steal um, and lie, you know, week after week, year after year, and so I think folks are tired about that. I think they want to see people who are actually going to change our leave conditions and not just talk about it um as a talking point. I would say that the morale is down across the board, even across the age demographics we had to carry it around. Uh,

student debt, cancelation and deaths on freeze. You're not seeing the Democrats fight aggressively or roll out of plan, and you're seeing the Republicans playing and both of them are did see we've not heard any real platform around reparations. While money is being funnel to the Ukraine. Hbc US still incubating on life support. We're seeing no real policy around support for our brothers and sisters in Jackson, Mississippi, those who were adversely impacted by Hurricane Ian and Florida.

Let's not even deal with the scab that's been pulled on on the pre existent health conditions that were exposed in COVID nineteen pandemic. And so people are really dizzy and are asking, what's it all for? UH? What differences are going to make? And beyond the promises uh to by the wisdom's point, what is the policy? What is

the agenda? And a lot of people are not seen. Yeah, I think, Um, you know what happens is, first of all, black men are participating UH at at levels that are that should be considered astronomical, considered the lack of investment in our community, especially this demographic. What what the world won't say is it's easier for those with resources, those

with access. Talking about the parties, the both political parties, their auxiliaries, their candidates, UH, if you see the campaigns and running they run heavy media heavy campaigns UH eighty seven in their budget spent on TV radio and that's just not how you're gonna reach black men at all. So that failing is that the feeling of brothers to turn out. Uh is the fact that candidates invested their

money wrong, parties invested their money wrong people. People believe that get out to vote happens to the four or five days before election, and that's TAXI get out the vote against January uh to December every year. Uh. Uh So if if, if, if you consider, if you consider the work that needs to be addressed as pertains to lack of trust from black man in the political system, thinking used to change that in four days, it is

absolutely tacky and silly. So I think what happens is when people consider the fact that you know, of the black men that vote percent of the vote for Democrats. So people, so one party is just trying to keep us from going out. That's the Republican Party. And then the other part of the Democratic Party, uh with relatives spend their money on trying to miss their conservatively and white cousins to come vote, come back to the Democratic Party,

which is never gonna happen. That demographics sale And I think, um, you know, we never told the truth talking about we are people that play politics and the fact that, um, they're the number one way to increase a demographics participation is to spend resources on them. We have white consultant We have a white consultant class that gets more more

than ninety percent of the money from political expense. Um. Even though you know, like you said, the biggest base for the Democratic Party, I would say, the only base because we're not spit, uh is black voters. Everybody else Uh, you know, dance with the Democratic Party, but not majority Latin ext brothers and sisters, um and and folks in the same as truth for our Asian brothers and sisters. So uh, And I just want to push back a

little bit system something he said about black men. Uh, there are no black men switching over to Republican parties. There's been no increase in black man's participation in Republican politics at all. And people keep talking about like this is how I know a lot of people sister, um and brothers that don't that aren't really engage with the

majority of black men in this country. They think Republican talking points are gonna misinformed black men, as if we are living in a silo or if we're not experiencing, uh, the eels of American politics. Actually, the real voter suppression that should be warned about, or the real misinformation campaigns they should be learning about. Are these brothers on YouTube saying craziness like flat Earth and all the other stuff home tapping out here? Then the brothers that have the

power to miss brothers some craziness. It ain't these white Republicans. So I think people are missing. People are truly missing. Everything I've seen I saw, let me sell you something. They've They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads. I've seen Republicans run three or four eggs on battle rap. Battle Wrap is a locked in demographic for a special

type of black man. And those black men if you look at their crossover, if you take their profiles from social media and cross over with the voter file, these are the brothers who sit out elections. Right, So that means that an entire swamp of people aren't being reached, and that just isn't true for that demographic. Uh. Like I said, if you look at the number of brothers who are wretched to the vote, nearly half of them have not voted in five consecutive federal elections. It's not

a critique of black man. It's a critique how we play politics in this country. And that's and I think we are when we say is it a black man thing or is there a different type of voter thing? No, it's the way we play politics. It's the it's the actors. So nobody would ever, nobody would ever uh condemn a person for not drinking Coca cola uh and drinking pepsi. Instead, people will criticize the marketing campaigns, and you're not selling

your product properly. That's why people aren't buying it. The same thing is true with candidates. Candidates are products, and the party and their consultants aren't doing their job. As it pertains to black men when you're running out here talking about how much more you're gonna invest in police and these guys keep killing us um with our hands

up or what what on our on our backs? So I think what happens is the more you keep talking about these Republican life messages, the more you have these white consultants who are not connected to our community, the less and less you will see people participating in your lect to our process. Let's let's let Congressman bowman and so you can join and hear what we're talking about. We're in a good conversation, and because folks don't have a lot of time, I don't want us to go

back over the discussion. But what I will say is that what we're talking about is the lack of um of investment in black men that has created, whether they be false narratives and or um voter apathy. Is that a word? That a term that I think we can use mindale or do you think that's not a term that we should use. I think we should step away from ampathy altogether. There's no apathy and black men. There's no a political black man in America. Uh, there's a

level of antipathy that exists. But antipathy is different than apathy. If I'm na on about something, I don't really care what happens. If I hate, keep it away from me. And I think people are people are addressed a black man as if we're nationalized about the process. Were not. We hate it and we hate the way is presented

to us. What's up moment? Please see you? So what I wanted, what I wanted to say right is like, you know, I heard what you're saying that you know, black men aren't moving to the to the right right. And what I've what I've noticed, right, a lot of friends that I have, right, they come to me with all of these right wing talking points every new And these are new people that before they weren't having these conversations with me. They weren't telling me that, oh, well

Trump they like, they're identifying with Trump. They're telling me how Trump did all these things. They're coming to me with these things every day, and I'm confused, and I'm like, well, where the way are you getting this from? Right, So that's one thing I want to say, and then you can go on to that. But I want to know, you know, because I'm starting like I'm I'm actually I'm seeing in my personal life, not with the data is saying.

I'm seeing in my personal life that people that I'm connected to, that I'm speaking too daily, that come on my post that I know they're not boxed at. People that I speak too daily are coming to me and there leaning conservative right. So I want to know, what are the issues that you believe that that really are

important for black men? What are the issues that are important for black men that people aren't addressing that maybe the Conservatives are addressing, or maybe the Democrats aren't addressing, but what important for black men? I think first and foremost, Uh, you know, you got to have the conversation. You gotta

meet people where they are. You gotta go into the communities and act like you care first and foremost, So before we even get to uh the topics and the content and the policy, show people that you care, Show people that you're willing to listen and learn and and and really engage to understand what the issues are, so then you can go work on the policy. One of my frustrations with the Democratic Party is we we consistently do not do that uh directly and explicitly with with

black men. UM. So that that's one. Just just start the conversation first and foremost. Secondly, UM, from what I'm hearing and my own personal experience, we as a party and we as a country, we have to one be honest about the harm we have committed to black men, be honest about the history related to that harm, and then be very explicit in doing something about it today. Right. So um at us opportunity uh self determination. Uh dealing with issues of wealth and the quality, helping black men

and black the black community to build wealth. UH. Criminal justice reform is another UH. And there are many other topics as well, fully funding education, affordable housing, etcetera, etcetera. But first and foremost, you know, do the work of of engaging black men first, and follebos, we haven't even done that to know which direction we need to go

in terms of topics and policy. If we did that, that would go a long way to your point, my son around leaning conservative, uh, Republicans if you will, or conservative, if I've done a better job of engaging, whether it's directly or indirectly, whether it's through proxies like ice Cube and and and and Kanye and and and and others, or through topics that are important to black man like money and wealth and and and and other things, even

crim no justice reform. I mean Trump did a few things related to that, you know during this President sek So first and foremost, have a conversation and then we go from there. I wanted to just hone in on this point, um where you said, Mandela, and you know everybody could jump in, um, and my son has touched on this idea that people black men, some black men

are leaning more conservative. I hear you saying that that's not necessarily the case, right, But what does it mean when there's an uptick in black men voting for Trump? Is it a Trump thing or is it a party thing? What does it mean when herschel Walker is actually a

viable possibility in Georgia in this moment? And and to your point, you know, I know all of you can get in on this part of the conversation that these consultants and the poles and the ways in which they, you know, do the reporting that is always off, it never represents black people properly. But we can see, or we can feel with our own eyes and through our cell phones and through conversations, that there are more black men who are even willing to entertain a possibility of

a Hershel Walker. And so I'm just I just want to be corrected and or educated, that's a better way of discussive saying it. Educated on what is it that we're hearing, Why are we hearing this, and how does it not mean that there are more black men who are voting towards the moving towards the Republican Party or Republican candidates. First of all, uh, it's capped that more black men vote for Donald Trump. It didn't happen in Donald Trump did not get a large a portion of

black anticipation. Again, I'm that that one quote, a single quote, was in the New York Times a couple of days after the election, came from Edmonds Edmonds or class wrong exit poler who who has flowed instruments every year? And it's not just me. You can look at the many many, uh you know, research one, study, schools that I tell you that is trash. Um. What I will say, though, is a better way to judge people turn out is how they if they participate in the primary and then

also the general election. You can see it, especially for talking about people who set out elections five and six elections cycles, like a lot of the black men did. Herschel Walker is not within one per cent of UM well not right now? That is cap that as a poll. That is not what the voted data is saying. I don't care about polls. I care about data because data

is real. And if you look at who's participated at what rates they participated, and who they are and how they are registered, it's no way that people are saying. And also this idea that black men are more conservative now is a false narrative. I'm telling what we know is we know these people in our lives that are conservatives, and then not that we are outspoken. That's cool with us. We should understand that there always be Republicans, always full,

especially at the national level. Somewhere between eight and twelve percent with black voters. Donald Trump performed right in that he didn't. He didn't outperform anybody. He actually did worse to mcgrumney did with black men. So people don't it's it's a harder work to find out data, the real data, and the exit polls are just snapshots that people run

with because they get put in the papers real quick. Um. I did a long along, a three hour interview with Rolling Stone proven to them that that that pope was wrong, and they didn't had they had no other source than adments from that for that faith pole or that exit pole. So I would say, first of all, uh, the idea that uh, black men are more conservative now than they've ever been doesn't ring truth how we're voted and the

issues we care about. If that was true, then how could we say that black men supported uh progressive issues like a women's right to choose more than anybody, not excluding anybody right this year when they pulled demographics, black men outperformed black women on that support. I want to get you, Jamal into the conversation, what are you here? Are we on the right track of what we're saying. You are in the church, you know talking to black men that um, you know, we know our brothers from

the church. So giving your perspective from from from that viewpoint, I said, first of all, I'm sending in the cash after Mondale because just helped the miseducation of the Negro. I didn't know nothing that he just said. And so I feel better because I've been stressed out. UH. You know, the Bible says that people die from a lack of knowledge. UH. And everything that we've been mobilizing around Mandale has been

around the poles, not around the data. UH. They have been to make a one million people have participated in early poling uh in the last week. UH. And it has been a great number of people from our community who has done it. But Mandale, the polls are not giving the reflective of our turn out. UH. And so the street politicians y'all are helping me today. I'm I'm a convert Mandale. I'm joining your church, I'm leaving mine.

So no, no, this is this is helpful for us to really recalibrate our level of thinking because what it also does, wisdom, is it puts in the minds of our people. What's it all for if we're just following the poems? Uh? That there is no point that is not gonna change, It's not gonna shift. Uh. And I want to enlarge that conversation to Maka as a Georgian that is not just around the war knock for let's

not I forget Stacy. Uh. They're trying to put her behind in double digits again Mandale in the polls, but not in the data. Uh. So I'm just encarriage and inspired. Uh that Mandale, you go ahead to send me that data because I've been preaching the row fact I'm preaching from the dead seased roles. I need you to get me to do testament so I can I can try

to fix this. But no, this is great. And I think I think a key word that you and Maka is entertained, right like people are entertaining these actors, right, entertain these people who are coming with this conservati rhetoric and talking about black men in this way through social media. Right, every you know shade room um social posted and talked about these people, and people are being more awared to them and and giving them that time of day um,

even though the data may not show that. Right. I remember when I first moved to d C in eighteen, there's all these conversations about black conservatives and black progressives and this growing amount. Right again, look at the data,

and that's not true. And so the fact that folks are entertaining it, I think we need to start shifting dynamics in which we uplift those people and therese platforms, right because if there's real people in our community who are doing the work that we want to make sure are elected, those are the narratives, those are the points. Those are the people that we need to make sure are in those places and spaces and are being uplifted.

So that just one thing real quick, you can So Ever, since I've gotten into Congress, I've become more aware of how powerful corporate media is, how powerful corporate polls are, and how much propaganda is peddled through media and through polling to get us to think a certain way, even

though that may not be accurate. Like literally, I'm living in the matrix right now because I'll do an interview on a particular topic with a particular publication and they'll take what they want to take to craft a narrative they want to craft. I got nothing to do or very little to do with what I said. So that polling piece is critical because this is money, and money is gonna dictate things in a way that's gonna lead

to corporate media, corporate polling getting more money. So I just want to make that quick point that that's that's very important. I want to go to your point, wisdom. I want to ask you a question after I state this. I remember during the Trump election, and I remember I was with Tamika. We had just we was in DC and we had to get on the train, right and all these polls has said that Hillary was gonna in. We we got on the train and the polls told us that she wants This was the polls that the

pole said it was. It didn't even make sense. It was a landslide. And within two hours he was on the train and everything that these poles said didn't happen. At that point, I realized that the poland whatever the polls was, it wasn't it wasn't a reliable source. You know. So I want to ask you was as a as a young man, do you believe that because like you said, like we said, we're getting polls, we're getting social media,

We're get in the field from social media. How it seems like it's an uptick and conservative value, especially black men talken with um conservative talken points. Is social media really do we how much do we give, you know, how much props do we give? How much reality do we think that social media presents to us? You know, social media is a powerful tool, right, you know, throughout the pandemic, we had to use it really to to

reach voters, right, to contact people. But something that I whole hard to believe is like life ston't equal votes, right. You know, folks can be can be shared a million times, Uh, folks can shared around. There can be you know, sound bites, clips, all that kind of stuff. At the end of the day,

it's about turnout, right, It's about that data. Right, It's about making sure that real people in our community are reached with that message, and so I think it has an opportunity to help influence, right, And I think how we use it, it's gonna be very important. Um. I think for the younger generation, right, it's our primary source of communication. I wake up with the morning. I'm not opening up the newspaper. I'm looking on Instagram, I'm looking

on Twitter. I'm hearing what's moving in the media today. Um. And I think the way in which we can change that, right is making sure that folks have the right information, like how are we connecting with the culture brands, with these sources, with these opportunities, to make sure that they know how influential they have to actually change the course of election if they're actually mobilizing people to the polls, m anybody else on social media? And what you think, like,

what's the reality? And I would just jump in and say that the I think the internet is extremely dangerous. I think it's extremely dangerous. It's actually become very toxic. Yes, it can be used, Yes, we all use it. Yes we have found ways to make it work in different situations. But I do agree that there is a sentiment that

is brewing online. And by the way, let me just insert here that a few weeks ago, a New York Times article came out showing how the Russian bots were involved in the Women's March, and it was used, whoever you know and and don't don't get me to uh, you know, Congressman Bonus A Boweman is on the is, So I'm gonna be careful of what I say. But I don't know who paid the Russians or who work

with them to do what they did. But during the Women's March, the bots that attacked us, and particularly lend us our soul, who you all know, uh is our partner, they really focused on her. But by extension, the entire Women's March was receiving basically hate tweets all day stories from different sites, and they were working so hard to create dissension among the ranks within the the within the Women's March, but of course to turn other people off.

And I believe that those bots still exist, and they have the hotep if you will, uh profiles. Some of them are real individuals, but a lot of them have the profiles, and they are screwing or spewing excuse me, certain things and putting things in the atmosphere that is making it very difficult for people to know what's real and what's fake online. I don't know others are feeling that. I noticed that you, Jamal have pulled back from being online as much as you used to be. Yeah, that's correct.

So it's it's a gift and a curse, um, and it's become more of a curse and in many ways than a gift. UM. Yeah, you know, it's a great way to share information. It's a great way to communicate different initiatives that you're a part of. UM. You know, it's great for that. It's it's a it's a media platform to share press releases, tweets about particular issues, bring attention,

attention to issues is great for that. And and as we have all seen, shortly thereafter the toxicity comes in, the bods get involved and many of these bodies have been programmed to have an agenda. And this is why, you know, as we talk about until freedom and defeating white supremacy and black revolution, we got this step i AI game up, our artificial intelligence game up as we as we pushed back against that, because we need our own box as well, Uh, telling the narratives that that

that we want to tell um on social media. So you know, to your point, I'm still on it, but you know, I try to avoid the toxicity and the poison as much as I can. But one last point, um,

you know, and I think this was said earlier. You know, the way celebrities are pushed on social media is really problematic as well, because we we hold celebrities in such high regard um, you know, as a society, when they say something that gets this proportionate attention and then and then it sucks all the oxygen out of the room and we can't have real conversations around about real topics, and social media is a hard place to do that. Anyway. I think that we've got to, I really put our

own messaging out. I don't think that the answer is for us to go radio side. Is that we've got a great package, but we've got to learn how to amplify it. Uh. And we can't leave all of the language uh to hate speech and white supremacists and bodies without us touting it. A lot of people are not participated because of what it is that they don't know a lot of people will decry congressmen that this administration hasn't done anything for our community, and that's not true,

but we've done a bad job of promoting it. And so I think that we've got to go beyond to make a post and matching for genres. I think that we got the post. We got to post this stuff that's significant, uh, and that's meaningful for our people to know what's taken place. Well to your point, brother, just real quick, you're right about that. I would also and I've been very critical of the Democratic Party about this.

The Democratic Party hasn't done enough to communicate with black man, with black people, with disengaged communities, not just since I've been in office, but prior to that. You know, one of the reasons why when I ran the party didn't think I had a shot to win is because the party has been unplugged from real people for a very long time. And what do we do. We went door to door in our community, knocking on doors, being President

Canvas and being every way I met Mondale. You know, we're down with Bill Cobbs shout, but we was all over the place, right in the streets, and that's how we were able to win. And going back to the polling piece, you know, polling had us Uh, you know pretty much neck and neck. We won that race by sixteen points. Um. So it's the party has to The party has all the resources it needs to do what

it wants to do. It just chooses to prioritize white, independent slash modern voters and get them to swing to us without talking to us at all, meaning black man and and in fact, let's go ahead. I was just gonna say, you know, it's it's probably inappropriate to discount the importance to social media. So I appreciate everybody like telling the truth that we can back away from that technology because it's honestly how most most black men, black men actual use YouTube like the rest of the world

used to Google. Right, So um, the fact that YouTube is the wild wild West as pertains to um. How how campaigns are even spening resources towards black man is absolutely ridiculous. But beyond that, I would also say, Um, you know, I think there's there's I think trying to entertain the black vote out is always gonna um wind up as a field opportunity for the Democratic Party. What what we do know though, is, um, there's there's there's there's a wonderful road map on how to win elections.

The Democratic Party just was not to use it every election cycle. They still do the same thing over and over and over with the same consultants, over and over. I mean, I'm getting emails right now from James Carl James Conference should not be sending an email to any black Democrats. He is racist. The fact that they can't even segment out their list. First of all, he's outdated, he's Bill Clinton politics. Majority of black man are triggered by Bill Clinton's name just because of some of his

policies and what he did in his office. And people can't even read the room to know that much about their base. But they're still sending out information. And the reason this is I wanted to say, because I ain't speak on of them about the polls. The reason to pose are so wrong is they're talking to this so called likely voter um. Black men don't never fall into their category. Very few of us, those who went to college, those who are part of you know, uh fraternities, or

or those who are super voters. That's a very small slither of brothers who participated. And while while you are talking about that, that that too you were talking about. Brother. I just wanted to give this information. Right now, there's a hundred and nine black men that has already voted in a gym a hundred nineties two thousand. It's only one one million black men in Georgia, right, so if I remove the suppressions, that one is probably gonna jump

to somewhere over two hundred thousand. That means we're performing. Like I said, we're out performing white men. Nobody's nobody's saying that black men I outperforming white men and they got older resources and none of the hurdles. Um, we've closed that gap from tem percent to black women. And that's how you win. That's how you win. So and I think even and even more, I gotta say this again. And the reason is because the people who are turning out are not so called likely voters. This is why

we're gonna do. This is how we win elections. This is how we won two So I mean and how we do win two I I also think, Um, and this is the this is the last one I said about this. Uh. There's tools you can use, like free tools, uh to see what's going on an election outside of posed, and social media is one of them. Facebook, for instance, will allow you they don't know what. I guess they figured it out yet. You can take the voter file from the state, segmented by race, and take that whole

voter file and put it on Facebook. Is in a message to uh for or two dollars, you could reach all of those people, target all those people. And we're not which not, we're not doing that. We have white consultants because you know, creating messaging that sounds like you're talking against us instead of for us. And you're never gonna make brothers see what your administration did as long as you're out here talking how great the economy is when we know we're double double our white counterpart as

obtains unemployment, and that's the number one issue for black men. Um, we're never gonna make black men see your issues when you're talking about uh college, you know, college education being the pathway to freedom or or or and it don't work that black man. But college ain't got us free. Uh. So you took away trades and we need our trades back, including coding, and you're not talking about that the black man.

These other issues, qualified immunity, when my most black men and walk around talking about qualified immunity, The damn show was saying, it's screwed up that cock can kill a black man and nothing happens to them or and that to me is it comes a qualified immunity that people don't even know how to introduce because they think you talked to black man with cameras a white person in a barbershop, and in actuality, any black man has been in a barbershop. Know that once somebody is not a

black man walking the room, the whole damn conversation change. Uh, it could be a black woman, it could be anybody. You're walking a barber shop and you're not a black man, entire conversationships, so you're not even getting the real conversation. This is why the poles be so bad. I think about this. You they need you. I don't understand why I'm dealing what it makes sense because I told them, I told them right now, it's what black men are thinking.

You know. The reality like even with social media, like I tell to me, it's me. They hate shows for me that she hates for me to get on social media because you know I'm not. I'm gonna say whatever

I feel. And I feel like the reality is there has to be a counting narrative, right, if we if we are allowing people to dominate one of the major sources of information for our people, right when we go to YouTube, like you said, these wildy they're saying everything lies they said, nobody is challenging that we don't have five or six people that are telling them the truth. Right, So at least and when they and they know that

we're gonna tell the truth. So if we're if we're not saying, hey, this is a lie, right, and these people are left to continue to flourish on these platforms with lies and continue to go, then what all they have is this is like it's like, really, there's only one candidate, right, If there's no counter narrative, then the only thing they have to believe is truth is the

lies that they're being told. So I think the Democratic Party has to do a very a better job at if you got Kanye over here saying this, then you gotta get somebody of equal value that you're appealing to what they want to really not just come and say, yo, you're gonna vote a die like nobody were tired. We've been voting. We're kind of hearing like the voting ship.

It was cool at one point, was a good slogan, but now we need If you don't vote, When you vote right here, your kids gonna be able to be in these schools you vote, your kid's gonna have opportunities that you didn't have. You vote, your kids are gonna be able to don't have to go through the same struggles that you went through. That Black men are interested to making sure that our kids aren't struggling the same

way we did. Everything I do is to make sure that my son's don't have to work as hard as I did to to to be able to just survive. I want them to be able to live comfortably and make decisions not based off desperation, not based on poverty, not saying damn, I gotta risk my freedom. I gotta do this. I have to do this even though I don't want to, even though my heart is into this, even though I'm skilled at this. But I need to get this regular job and go away from my passion

because I can't survive. That's what black men are interested in. And if they don't get up, if the party doesn't focus around those things the average everyday black man is dealing with, then they're gonna lose, and they have to use these platforms. They gotta get on these platforms and use the voice because it's people like us that want to be able. I can't go up there and tell nobody voted Doe. I'm just not saying that. No, yeah, yeah, I was just gonna jump in real quick. So excellent

points all the way around. Um So, so I'm in Congress right now, the first black man in US history to hold this seat. One of the reasons why I'm here is because black men and black people came out and voted for me. And I could have did much better with black men if I was more strategic and getting them out during my first race. But the fact that I even represent came forth as an actual black man, more black man came out to vote. Right. So I'm

here now. Right. Because I'm here, new and different conversations are happening and different questions are being asked. So we have a White House liaison that we communicate with consistently. I'm in direct contact with the president chief of staff, and I have told him, like when mom Dale had that great article I think it's in the Washington Post about the White House is failing on black men. I called the Chief of President, Chief of Saving and was like, Yo,

you see this article, you gotta do about it. You need to call him in when you have me blah blah blah. And they like, I man, I I like not really listening, like okay whatever. The Democrat probably had a retreat and they brought in like some consultants to teach us, to train us on messaging. Know, they brought in they brought in the people who who did those Dove commercials about love your body and and and they and they put us through this whole thing on doing

this for messaging, dev comversson, love your bady whatever. They've never had a conversation with me who won the historic collection about like messaging. They never have a conversation with nobody in the squad all one historic elections Sunday. Know, they never brought us in and said, Yo, what what did y'all do teach us? Never ever did that at all.

On the other side, one of during one of my first weeks in Congress, seven members of the European Union, seven ambassadors from the European Union set me up with a lunch at the Ambassador's them in d C, Germany. Was there, Italy was there. All of these people were there. They just wanted to meet the person they do beat Elliott Ingle because they couldn't believe that it happened. So I got Europe wanting to talk to me, and half conversation me to be like, Yo, how did you be?

Who is this person? Be Elliot Ingle? But the the party here didn't do that right, So the part of the makers the party has failed historically and continues to But the fact that now that I'm here, my Dala is involved in all that we can continue to push the party to have the conversations we need to have because it's not just about voting, it's about accountability after

the vote. And you know, me communicating with y'all, my sign to me could consistently let y'all know what's going on in Washington, let you know about the bill asking you to calls b That's just is power, Like we're power building right now and it's not obviously it's not gonna happen overnight. So that's why I like I wanted

to come on to to really help. I know it's hard because you know, we've been ignored and marginalized for far too long but we we are beginning the process of building the power we need to build and having conversation like this is a big part of that. What is the messaging? You know, Massan just went through a whole thing. I'm not gonna say voter to die, but all of you are out there talking to your base.

I know this week, this on on Sunday, Rev. Bryant or Jamal Briant, he got my phone blowing up with people because he's the one line master and from he said, we don't need a walker, we need a runner, and the whole thing, everybody's blowing up saying, you know, Jamal has hit the people with a good line in terms of one election. But I know, Jamal Bryant that you have to talk to your members one on one more

than the one line from the pulpit. You're out here trying to encourage people, registering people to vote, being in the community. What is the message is them saying? What is the message here? You are Mondel sitting in the center of getting black men, the black men, the Black male Voter project. You gotta you're out here, you're talking

to our people. What are you saying? And I'd love to give the congressman the last word, because you know, you got a tough job to come from to be a part of a party that you know is not handling business properly for our people, but still to try to encourage folks to see past that uh and and engage in the process. So let's start with Reverend Brunt. I've been telling family that the Black Church needs to

take a page from white evangelicals. White evangelicals promote policy, where the Black Church historically has promoted personality, and we have failed to talk about what are the issues that are driving us to the pole too. What Mondale's point is, black men educate themselves on what is our point, but the Black Church has not done. So we have pushed people who are chasmatic, who are articulate, who are marketable, but don't hold any accountability around what is the policy agenda?

And so our responsibility at this tick of the watch is to raise what are the policies in front of the people. If you stick with what our policies are, then we're gonna forget the personality. And I think that what it is that we have to do is really gras up what are our policies or what my son Roland Martin always says, what's the ask? What are we looking for to come on the other side of this mid term election other than we need your vote in the midterms so we can get it in the presidential

primaries in sixto months. So I think that part of our process at this ticket of watch is really underscoring what are the policies I wouldn't save very quick great the till movie on last night about Emma Teal uh to see a young Megan ever talk about while this is good uh for one chase, one chase is not going to change it. We need a completely different overhaul of the system. And I think that that's part of

our responsibility. What wisdom YEA when when I'm out there in the streets with the young people and talking with them and engaging with them, I really urge them to recognize that we are the ones that we've been waiting for. Um. You know, we know that power can see nothing out of demand. And the more and more we continue to urge the folks who are in power to actually uh speak these issues and actually create real change and implement policy,

you know, the more that we'll see it. You Know, I recognize the fact that we are a great mobilizing body, UM. And there's a lot of things that we're still working on in our generation. But thinking about gen Z, thinking about millennials, we are the largest living block in America, UM, And I think the way that we are really see that powers by mobilizing our folks, mobilizing our peers, and thinking about our spheres of influence, right, how we can

reach people who are in our communities. You know, the power of five, the power were reaching into places and spaces that aren't being touched. Because at the end of the day, the folks who are here on this call are the ones who are doing the work right, the folks who are consistently engaging day after day. And what I love seeing right now is the the young black men who are running for Congress. Right. You know, you've got Maxwell Frost out of Florida, You've got Mandela Barns

out of Wisconsin. Right. I've never been so engaged with Wisconsin in my life until this moment in time to see people who look like me, who come from places like me. I get texts from Exwell Frost every single day talking about voting, talking about voting and so making sure that we are seeing more candidates who come from our community, who are going to be accountable, who have plans, who care about those issues, because everything that we've advocated for,

even in just this year is under attack. Right we talked about student Day cancelation. The people who don't want to happen are the ones who are voting, the ones who are pushing. And so the more we actually engage with that, the more we actually see things through, the more we actually keep pushing at the door, we'll see a better future. I mean, we don't have a script as it pertains to what we tell brothers to go vote because and I think the lesson of that is,

I mean you to meet with my son y'all. We we were blessed to be together in and Georgia at my event on election night, and it was a hood as event. I mean, we have a good as political program that is absolutely working. I mean we we I think I think the best thing to do is make sure and in the conversations you're having with voters you're not transactional. We're not going to people do it right now talking about this is the most important election in

your life. We step away from those conversations. Um, and I think, but we've had nineteen conversations with black men in our seventeen states this year, So each one of the black men in our state had nineteen conversations from us, especially those who are not traditional voters. We spend more time and energy on these people. So now or we're doing to say, hey, don't forget to go vote. And that's all we need to say. Because our work is not from the past two month, two days. I work

has been since January. So these brothers know what it means. They know that this election. Uh, they know what it means to them. They know what issue is important to them. They know what motivates them and what doesn't. You also know what's realistic. We also tell brothers all the time, voting for somebody, who electing somebody, it's not revolutionary, unelecting their ass They don't do, They say, is so election revolution doesn't happen in one cycle. Um, it's the power

to get rid of incumbents. Getting rid of incomments is something that don't know only happen Jamal woman defeated incumbent. I'm the mayor of my hometown. I defeated incumbent and I think the way that works is if you stay off TV and stay in front of people throughout the year, then you have the right to ask that person to go vote um and not use these dumb as white taxis. They don't do nothing for communities. Mm hmm. Con and

you got the last words. Absolutely, So we're not gonna defeat white supremacy in four hundred years of oppression and one election cycle. We have to be consistently engaged and build doing real power, building black power over the course of the rest of our lives. So this is the fight for the rest of our lives, and this every day. So you know, for me, when I got into Congress and I saw all these lobbies coming at me, right, the pro Israel lobby, the fossil fuel lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby,

police unions, military industrial cobbis. All these lobbies bombarm me with calls and letters and they want to meet and they want to give me money so I could do what they want, and obviously I don't respond to them. We have to build that kind of power in Congress, in every state house, in every county, every miss municipality across the country, and it's grassroots up and it's power building.

So the message and the mission is Black power. And the more I learned, and the more we all learn and share with each other, we are building that power for the long term. So yes, absolutely vote this cycle. But if you vote and go to sleep, that's not enough. It's about remaining engaged. Uh, to hold that's accountable. Like

that's the that's the bottom line. It's accountability. And if you hold your members a Congress and like the fish accountable, uh, they're gonna do what they need to do for you. And if they don't you vote, they vote their asses out office. I'm so happy to have this conversation, man, I want to say think all of you. You know, what you said is very important as a black man, you know who who actually just wants the best for his people. It's hard, you know, it's hard having these conversations.

It's hard talking to damage individuals dealing with trauma who have not received anything from this government, like you said, mon does. It's the audacity that America things that we they we owe them. I would vote, you know, and and the reality is that we really don't owe them anything,

owe our stuff. And I hope people are paying attention I hope that people listen to this conversation and understand that black men have things that they want and things that they need, and ways we need to be addressed and respected, you know, and just telling us whatever you think, or just disregarding us and going after other demographics, it's not gonna work for us. So, you know, I just want to thank you, guys and appreciate you for being

able to say the things I'll be thinking. I don't know how to say it as good as y'all be saying it, but I'll be thinking the same things you'll be saying. You say it perfectly fine, And I'm glad that my brothers came on today as well to talk. You know, we focus a lot on black women, but we thought leading into this last few days before the election, that we need to focus on the black man, because without a strong black man in our communities, our communities

are hopeless. I believe that my father, he is the king of our home and our work, he whole. He is the man. Everybody knows stand is the man. But one thing about it is that that man understands his power is also in building his woman and making sure that my mother is happy. So That's what it's all about for me, is bringing us together and making sure that no one in our community is left behind. I

love y'all so very much. Rever Jamal Bryant, thank you, Mandell Robinson, thank you, Wisdom Cold, and thank you Congressman Jamal Balming, thank you, Peacia. Love y'all talk soon. That's how that was great. It was great. I mean, it's been it needs we need like fifty more of them. You know. I hope that somebody pays attention to this, you know. I hope that you know, that people start focusing on what's real. You know, like you said, internet

is dangerous. It's dangerous for two things. It's dangerous is because if you give the wrong person power on the Internet, they can miss inform at such a quick rate. Right, you can miss inform somebody so fast million the people you've got a hundred million followers and twenty million and thirty million followers, and you put out some information as false, right, they take it as is really what it is, you know, and it moves They moved so fast, and people to

grab onto it. Man. So I hope that the truth tellers understand that we have to utilize our voices the same way that the people who are intentionally spreading misinformation and lives on. And we got to combat these lives because they're harmful. You know, we're in very critical times in our lives, not just in in this election, but in every election, every time that we have an election, every time that we exalt someone to a level of power.

You know, it's critical because when you have the ears of the masters and people start to believe you and the hearts, it's hard to pull away. Man. We've seen how the power you know, in their own hands is misleading. We talk about the cold leaders. Cold leaders have had followers, man, we talk are people like Hitler. When you get when you get the ears of people and you start to to utilize it the wrong way, you see how it can go. You know, how it can really destroyed. So

I'm just hoping that somebody's listening. Man, I hope you're paying attention. You know, this was a this was an emergency UM show. It's emergent conversation, So we went away from our normal format. You know, I ain't even going into my I don't get it, none of that. We're not doing that. I just don't get how people think that we shouldn't be involved in any process that affects

our lives, whether you like it or not. You need to find out the policies that you need that is going to directly affect you in your community and your lives, and then find out those you know, the candidates that afford those policies, and get out there and do what you need to do. So with that said, man, I'm not gonna always be right to make a Demalori is not gonna always be wrong, but we were both always and I mean always be authentic. Make sure you go

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