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everybody else? You are you everybody else? You're going there if somebody say something to you, if somebody goes in there and saying even if somebody goes in there and says, oh, my son, you're wrong and you just don't like women and you this is that in the third or whatever. I'm just let me finish my point. You're going there,

and you got all these things to say. But when men is in their car and them bitches more, when men are in there saying other things like oh, well you know that's because they got in the gender you ain't going there one time. It's saying no, don't talk about these women like that. But you don't respond to no, comments either be either do one thing or because you said because you But why are you saying okay, sending? Why you argue with people? Why are you making up sunny?

Why don't you just leave it at that? Why are you in there arguing with people who are saying things that might support Because every time somebody, every time somebody says something that might be like you're wrong, you argue with them. But what I'm asking you with but I'm asking you is why don't you go in your comments and say when they're men in there who are like, oh, that's because them bitches all got they all together, Fuck

them bitches, they got some type of plan. Why you don't go in there say they call it snoop type of okay. But she would provide a space that made it seem like, Jada, No, that's not what you didn't need to have gar No, you didn't. You said, why won't why you say what I said? I have a question what I want to know? We need you want to go that listen to me, But we're not gonna make it seem like it's not It's not an option

that people don't want to hear that. It's any question that you asked, it's not everybody don't want to do whatever, but people want to know why she ain't up there. She created the turmoil, She created this. He was reacting Why you wasn't hurt that she said that about a black man, why he was dead? Why it didn't hurt you. Did you watch the whole thing? Did you watch the whole thing? Because today the piece that they put out, that's another thing speaking on something but saying that happen.

Did you watch the whole episode? How can you be a journalist well or be an influencer that makes a statement based upon what if she went on? Nan said, I asked Gail to come and she said no. What if she went on? Nan said, what if she went on there? Because it was a it's a piece that came out today where she's sitting there and snoop and saying it was her and that's and she's like, yes, that's right, I understand. So what if she went on?

What if she land bast to Gail? What if she tore Gail's after You don't even know because you made a comment being fast, but you didn't take you didn't take the time to look at the entire thing to be able to say. Maybe she said, I'm gonna have Gail on next Maybe she said, I asked Gail, Gail said no, Maybe she said, we'll see when Gail gets back to us. And then if that's the case, then what you would have been saying, and that thing is I'm glad you asked Gail, Jada and next time, you know.

And I can't wait till she come on. We should all be asking Gail, why won't you go on Red Table Talk? But instead the what what? What? How? Been? Is that it made it seem like it's not it's not happening, like it's not possive. You just you keep making up your own facts. What's going on? Y'all? Ship boy, my son and this is Street Politicians, the place with the streets of politics. Me and I'm Tamika Mallory and thank you for joining us for another episode. It's been

a little fiery around here. Maybe you've been privy to some of the dialogue that was going on before we started the show. Lots happening in the news all the time, and you know what, my son and I sometimes we just don't agree, don't agree, and you know, and this is one of those times, so you had a little preview.

You've probably got some of the little fire crackers. So y'all been following us, and you know, we've been going back and forth about this whole Gil and Kobe situation and that a little behind the scenes is us, you know, disagreeing. So there's been some r there's been some new developments. J the Pinkett just did an interview with Snoop Dogs based on his comments to Gil King, and you know,

a lot of people on social media have backlash. There was a lot of different, you know comments, and I've seen the clip that I've seen, so I listened to the clip and I commended it. I thought it made sense, you know, I understood Snoop's position, or understood Jade's position, and she talked about how his comments heard her and how she felt really harmed, and he came up there

and in full transparency. I haven't seen the whole episode yet, but based on what I saw, he was basically explaining how, you know, he didn't want every black woman in America to be angry with him, but he was angry at what she said, and his statements was out of that anger and frustration. So you know, I listened to it, and I commended it. I went on my social media page and I did a little video based on the clip, and I and I commanded everybody. I said, Snoop, you

did a hell of a job you. I love the Red Table talk. Jada is dope. The way that y'all bring up real topics and you're talking. You come from a place that's really so passionate and wrong, you know. And I said, everybody should agree with with Snoop Dead, and I saluted him. But then I said, now, it would be dope if you said, if you think it would be fair, I think it would be fair because Gail was the person who created the situation. Snoop Dog

was reacting to what Gail said. Why is it not a representation of black men, just that a black man decided to go talk to some black women about his feelings or something that he said or and did in his career, overhit his timespan living here on this great earth, he did something. Forget about Gail King. He's saying that as a man, even when I'm angry about something, I should never speak to or about a woman like this. And that's a that's a that's a point, that's five

ten shows by itself. That doesn't require Gail King. You're saying that doesn't happen if you never talked to Gail about anything, that doesn't matter. It does, my son. Here's what I'm telling you. I'm saying that what Snoop is doing is important for black men and black women, right. And I'm saying that I appreciate his movement, with or without Gail ever doing anything. In fact, it is actually making Kobe's legacy and Snoop and those people who have

challenged what Gail King did look better. But I don't want it's moving them into a better light because people are seeing that we're doing the real work together. There is an obvious division. I understand that, and this is where the problem is. And when the division division keeps happening, when it looks one side, it's not about what I'm getting.

What I'm trying to tell you what it looks. It's not about whether it is if it looks, if looks if Snoop has apologized, Snoop goes on and he apologized again, and these platforms tell him how he harmed them. But the original harm, the original harm was done before he said a word, and there's no one to attach that person who did that harm. No want to hold that person accountable, no one to sit there and tell that

person how what you did harm to us? How it say black Howard separated black people, black and male and women are already seen. I haven't seen it. I'm saying you do. Everybody has from the beginning, looks Snoop, this is what I'm trying to tell you. Everybody told you. Michael Ridson came out, Um Tammy came up. Everybody told Snoop, how those negative? Is it not? It wasn't negative, but she said she was. She just said you must have

been thinking that all that was not regardless of white. Okay, what I'm trying to tell you what everybody expressed to us Black men, black woman. Everybody went to Snoop and expressed to him how his words made them feel. Okay, nobody has gone. Who is the nobody? Tell me somebody I'm fell about what Gail did. What she said. I have said it, I've said it weird, I've said it on my social media, I've written it. What do you

think that you're looking for somebody to say? Because I'm looking for you I'm looking for to me, I'm looking for the same thing that the same thing that Michael Rick Diyson did. I'm looking for that you do. I watched the words that you said to me, and it took power for me and my daughter and my mom and I said no, not snoop and listen to me

that and it was heartfeld. The man he looked like he wanted to cry because these are people that he loved, These are people that he valued their opinion, and they told him that he said something and did something that harmed them in a way that made him feel like he needed to clarify if that was Tupac, right, listen to me, if somebody had asked her those questions about Tupac, she probably have punched him in the face. And if somebody was up there talking about interviewing somebody about Tupac,

she would have felt the same. We realized the difference. No, I tell me the difference. The difference is that Tupac is a man that she was in a relationship with and his friend. Okay, so what so what I'm saying that? And guess what if she would have done that, she still may have need to go out and said you know what, I was angry and I didn't said some things that I wasn't supposed to say, but I'm still

I was. I'm still angry about it. What I'm saying to you, my son, is that what Jada basically did right, she space for Snoop to clarify and be one and hold back with black women so they didn't feel like he was at them. I guess where I'm coming from here and what I'm dealing with that I spoke about in the last show that we did. I'm ruggling with trying to understand why it is that black men cannot just be accountable on their own without having to bring

what the woman did and said. You know what, I'm just trying to figure out. You know the problem. The problem is there's a chain of events. You understand what I'm saying. The chain of events started with Gail because everybody, that's what I hear what you're saying. But you can't say somebody being held accountable because she got a co defendant. You can't be held accountable with something that you're did

with somebody else. You can't solely be held and me and you did a crime together, and it's a black man and the black woman, and he said, no, you just need to go away. No, we got a co defend we've done. But we as black women have covered many times and dealt with the accountability and the responsibility for the family, for the black men, for everybody. And you know why, you know what, if we don't force black men to have to always be a part of that,

we take the ship. We take the beating for how we take the beating and the whipping and the responsibility on behalf of our community and our families all the damn time. And you know what, it's okay if Snoop passed to go and sit there and have a conversation with black women by himself. And guess what, I hope that Gil does do it, But I don't need her to do it for me to feel good about what

happened in that show on at that table. I think that what Jada and and Snoop did is the most powerful expression of what black love needs to look like in our community. It was accountability, that was honesty that was loved, and I would not taint it by trying to force on it superimposed that somebody else needs to also be so that's just how at this point you can feel how you feel. But my request for her there takes nothing away from what she did. I commended it.

I think it was needed. But I also believe that produced a network who's got a thousand lawyers that are telling her what she can and cannot do. Kenny, But people don't. People want to know why she asked the question at all. That's it. You can't even that, you can't. There are a lot of journalists. There are a bunch of journalists cat that have come up publicly and said just certain questions that I wouldn't ask, not right now

like that until he was actually buried. That conversation was it was too early because people and it's not that he was He wasn't convicted of rape. So you you want to have a conversation about an accusation that came up in his history right now when him and his daughter just blew up in a plane, this was I think if you you're talking about accusations and you're having a conversation with people that weren't there, they have no idea about what happened in that room. None of them

have anything. They just coming to have a conversation about their friend that they love, and you asked them about accusations that they have no information. Well, I don't even think it makes sense. I think it does nothing more than tink the viewer's opinion of that individual. It's not I think it's classless. You understand I'm saying, it's not like.

It's not as if you're saying, well, we have to acknowledge that Kobe was convicted of something, then maybe we could we what we could do is say damn, I don't think you should have. But it makes sense. There's that that is part of his history, that is part of his legacy. Was found guilty. There was enough evidence to say that this man did something that was wrong. So we wanted we want to talk about him in full bloom that we got to talk about the thing

that we acknowledge that we know he did wrong. But to talk about something that an accusation that has not that he was cleared up, it's classless. I don't see it at all. But I and I also think I think I agree with everything you just said, and I also think that we do have an expectation of black folks not to be a part of the destruction of black men and women and and and people, and our

legacies we do have. We feel that when you go to work, you need to know that you also are part of this community and not just do what you're

paid to do and what you're told to do. And I think a better way maybe to go about it would have been to say, and perhaps in this unedited clip that Gail is speaking of, you could say, you know, there are folks who want to talk about this, and I think it's early for us to be discussing it, but you know, I'm gonna ask you about blah blah blah blah blah, and to ask a question, whatever the question may be, but to go back and say, you know what, she just didn't want to testify him, but

what are you thinking? And then and then she said and then finally when when when when Lisa Leslie said, you know, I don't I didn't see that in him. Now you're like, well, you wouldn't see it as his friend. Okay, Now you're you're going real far. You're not just checking the box and making sure that you state it because it needs to be done just for your job and for journalism and fairness and all of that you're covering

the issue, but now you're pushing the issue. And I think the reason why I agree with what my son is saying, although I don't agree with anything else that he has said here today, But the reason why I agree with that one point is that if she was talking, if she was talking to Kobe, then yeah, push him all the way. And she was like she was talking to r Kelly. Nobody gave a damn about what she said to R Kelly. Push him all the way, because

you're speaking directly to the person. But when me and if me and my child, God forbid my child and I die, I would hope that until I'm in the grave, you wouldn't go pushing my friends who are also hurting to have to answer questions about an accusation that was twenty something. He is like, it doesn't make sense, and

and and and just to ot it. The journalist who when Charles Barkley said the dumbness, you know what I'm saying, he decided he wanted to get let the journalist said one thing and say, hey, you know we're just gonna ask. He asked one question, Charles Brockley, volunteer, What was the question that he asked, was I forgot what he was? But he was like, you know, some people are saying, should he being celebrated based right that he's a king? Should we talk about it? Is there something you wanted?

He gave him an opportunity, and they went into the bullshit, you know, the same I'm saying, that's that to me? What what do you what do you mean, Charles? People don't know. I don't know exactly to comment Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley started to say that we're not trying to make Kobe a haro. We know what he did, we know what happened in Colorado. He got a blemish on his record and and all this and and that was false.

But I'm talking about the journalists. The journalist who did the interview just asked a question, Hey, what do you think if you think it's something that should be discussed or should we just like, that's a question that in journalism, ok has been people been talking about it. Let me act to see is it and nobody else discussed it? Everybody else moves going past it. That man decided to talk about that, And I think that also the bigger

issue is that with Charles Barkley. Then the reason why people piste off about what he said is because he has a history of he has a history of saying things and and and and and and and doing things that that black folks in general feel is very disrespectful. We feel, like, you know, he always is contrary to our opinion or to the culture's opinion about our issues. It seems like he's always siding with people who are not in our communities, and he doesn't really ever represent

or speak well to the concerns that we have. And I think that with Gail, I don't know that she has that same type of history. Of course I would never say that, but what I do understand is that because of the relationship between her and the Harvey Weinstein piece and how people want to see him be challenged and other situations, Charlie rose and to not and for her to do what she did, it makes people feel like this is a repeat offense. So some of it

is not just the moment. It's the it's the it's the it's a it's a it's a fool spectrum, if you will. And I think she's got to deal with that period, like you know, and it's not And again I said many times, I think Gail is a darling woman. I think she's smart, and I think she does have

a heart for the people. But at the same time, we have a responsibility with all the hell that black people catch every single day, to be to to be aware of how we can sometimes be used as tools and an agenda that is harmful to the very people that you come from. So what people want are gonna want to say outside is looking in? Is that you know there's no that that their different opinions. Charles Barkley has an opinion. Gil may feel that question needs to

be asked. Everybody feels a different way, and there's freedom of speech and just like sometimes I don't agree with what you have to say, but that doesn't mean that you don't still say it, and vice versa. So is then when when should people speak and not speak? When? When is the right time in the wrong time? I mean that's the question that outsiders will ask us as black folks. What is our expectation for the code within our communities? Well, I think I think it's it's um,

it's visible. I think when you outside the code then people will let you know. I think there's a moral compass that most people have that when they hear that you go against that moral compass, when they're hearing you attacking the same things that go against what they believe is morally right, that goes against what they believe a code should be had. Because I feel that most other ethnicities follow this code. They don't publicly defame each other.

They just don't even don't publicly talk about each other. I don't really see it. I mean, I really don't see it unless they unless they morally conflict, like there's a moral confidence. Okay, that's what I'm trying to tell you. If you look at if you even look at in in in office, and you know in the politics the Republicans, they half of them don't agree with Trump, but they're not coming out saying they're gonna like what we're doing what he says because they just stayed on code. They

just figure it out. Like one person goes against the code, they got them out. They don't want you here. So that's what I'm trying to say. Blacks don't have the Blacks have to have a level of understanding of what is detrimental to us. So freedom of speech, you get to say what you want, but when you're saying something that is gonna be detrimental to the way they view my kids, you understand I'm saying when we know it's a history, Like I said before, there's a history of

rape and black men and white women. There's a history of most of our leaders, our kids are anything being the being killed, being demonized, being everything. Behind those accusations and merely accusations. You bring that to the forefront again, like we have to understand, Well, okay, are we gonna wrap this up? But I do want us to be careful saying merely accusations because I have made not accusations, but told my truth about things that have happened to me.

And I didn't go to court and I didn't do all of that, but it wasn't merely an accusation. It was my truth in this situation. The fact that the accusation was unfounded. I agreed that this is not It definitely is not time to discuss it before the man

was buried. I agree with that, But I would say that this code that we're supposed to be living by is very one sided because that code has not existed when it comes to the hip hop community, disrespecting black women, talking about drugs, feeding our children things that are not good for their minds. So now of a sudden and we want the colde to exist at a certain time, but it doesn't cover all times. It hasn't existed when black women have been out there. You know, when we

have the twirk culture, the uh what is it? Get you a man? Know I'm saying, I'm saying, get you a man. Anyway you gotta do it doesn't matter what. Get that money. Like, we also have things that we've done in our community that if we want to be on code, then we need to be on a total code. If we weren't about protecting our children, then let's all do that. But don't start when people have freedom of

speech to have the code. I understand what. I think it's too different, you know, I think it's two different topics. It's just like when people say police brutality and then black on black crown, they're too completely different times. It's is the same because I think that's true. You just spoke about. What you're talking about is black on black crowd. That's the exact exact because that black is talking about blacks. We just so maybe it was black on black crime crime.

What happened in this situation, maybe with Charles Barkley said in your mind was a form of black on black crime. I I it was a black a black man lending his boys to the same and some people would say that that's that's criminal, but I was joking. Anyway, That's been a full conversation, and you know, I still stand by like four or five things that I said today that weren't just about this show, but was also about our leadership. So I agree with your leadership comes in

different forms, and everybody leadership looks different. Some people have um lines in the sand. You know, certain things to the eminently you can't know you can't not just no, M not about no. I'm just saying that certain things that I'm willing to on across the boat, and I hope that certain people as leaders that's what people respect, the leadership from me dialing across but not in the fire.

And all right, we're wrapping it up another episode to treat politicians once again, we're not gonna always be right, and we definitely I can always agree, but we're always gonna be right. That's how we owned it.