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Angela Yee: The Next Chapter

Nov 09, 20221 hr 34 minSeason 3Ep. 5
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This week Mysonne and Tamika first speak on the homelessness and chaos that has been happening in society more specifically New York. Moreover, later in the episode they have special guest and radio host/business woman Angela Yee stop by to speak on her start in the radio and her future plans with her new show "Way Up with Yee".

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Speaker 1

What's up? Family, it's your girl to make a d Mallory and it's your boy and my son, and we are your host of street politicians, the places in the streets and what's up. How you doing? I'm blessing how they favorite, you know, doing God's work outside? You live in life? Life is living me? Are you living the soft? Life's over? Man? No, let me tell you something. I have to be really honest about something that you know. I need to share this with you. I didn't. We

really have not talked about this. You know. It's funny because some shows, I'm sure they coordinate things offline and they get on a thing and they talk about we just be talking about stuff and and you know, I'm really sad to say this, but I was in Harlem the other day and I was I was getting my hair of them. So I went to go get some

food from a seafood spot that we all love. Right I When I'm in Harlem, especially, I don't care if I'm in If I'm at the tip by where the Polar Grounds projects is in Harlem, right there where brad Hurst sort of ends. It's it's some wild things that go on over there. I used to be over there all the time. If there's food in Harlem anywhere, as you know, even in the Bronx, I don't given damn where it is. I'm going middle of the night for

cod on, driving my nice car. I don't care. I go anywhere I want in New York City, but in Brooklyn, I don't really know Brooklyn and queens like that, So of course I'm gonna go with somebody that I know from those areas. Those are just like you know, that's just the code. If you go to somebody else community you don't really know where you're at, you need to have somebody from that community move you around. But the

Bronx and Harlem, I can go anywhere I want. I'm loved, I meet my I know how to say things to my people to make them, to disarm them. When I see a bunch of guys standing outside of a store, I walk up, I'm like, what's up, brothers, how y'all doing? We get the laughing talking most of the time, they get the flur in. I love my city, but I ain't gonna lie to you. When I was standing outside of Harlem, I went to I was getting my hair done. I left and I went to walk to go get food.

The first thing is I walked down the street through this particular place and it's not even addicts. I I've been around addicts my entire life. I have been around people passing out from hounding, you know, doing the dick where they go all the way damn, then down to the ground and bounce back up. I have seen addicts

my entire life. But there is a mental health thing that's going on that I'm not used to bro and I and I'm not gonna lie between walking down this one street and it was it was just like a lot of people. They was screaming out and doing all of these things. And I felt so bad, like my God, like what are we doing? Like what is happening for these people? They are suffering with all kinds of mental

health issues? Is it? So? Security? Um office right around the corner where you talking about, so a lot of them be going over there. Well, and there's a method on clinic somewhere around there too, So that's one thing. But then when I got on the avenue and I was in the restaurant, first of all, in the restaurant, at least two incidents popped off between the people behind the counter and the black people who was piste off and nanny get treated right or you know, you always

playing with me when I come in here. So that was going on, okay, but you know I can deal with that. I understand you stay out the way whatever. When I went outside, because you know, nobody really stands in the restaurant waiting for the fool to be men, I'm not gonna lie. I was mad, uncomfortable. It was a lot of things going on, people yelling, one guy in his car and I and I felt nervous, not

because anybody's gonna do anything to me. Because by the way, there was a lady and her son at the bus stop. They noticed me and we started talking and the mother was taking pictures and so. But while she's taking pictures, I'm watching what's going on because it's six or seven different things popping off on different corners and people yelling and this going on, and I'm like, yo, outside is a little touchy. It's not the same environment out here

right now. Now. It's it's dangerous. You know. I walked through, you know, outside a lot, especially in the area you're talking on, and it's it's a lot going on. Like its drug addicts, but it's definitely mental mental health is a real big thing, like really big thing. You know. It's some of them that I see normally every day, like I go to the gym and this and that, and you just see, especially in the Bronx and Harlem,

it's a real deeply rooted mental health thing. Even the people that are like hustling on the corners, like you know, the little they they are dealing with mental health, and it's just like it's really crazy. It's it's like I never I don't think maybe it was always happening, or maybe it wasn't or we just didn't pay attention. But I just think I'm way more alert. I don't. I'm just saying I'm not because I don't want to know.

I don't know if I'm right around. I wasn't. No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you I never had a feeling. The other thing I felt away about when I saw it was a little thing going on this one kid. He was going back and forth with the girl and then something and I was worried, like, yo, I don't know what could happen right here and how other people around?

Because God forbid, he starts fighting with this girl. Coming from what I come from, and they were younger, I'm not gonna stand here and watch him beat this girl up like I can't do it, It's not in me. So now that's the whole other element of you preaching to people. Why are you standing around filming and doing nothing, and then when you're put in a situation, how are you gonna respond? Because there was a man on the train in our new segment, I was gonna talk about it,

but I might as well bring it up now. You know, there was a man on the train who was trying to break up a fight between people, and he got stabbed just the other day. I don't know if he had if he died, I hope not, but I know he got stabbed. I turned from the story because I couldn't even take it. And I know that they are more less and less people who are willing to help you, which is why I can't even take the train, because well,

by the way, the train is a disaster. Every person that I know, all of our good friends that take the train to work every day, they're talking about the amount of penises they see, the women that have no underwear note just a T shirt on walking through the through over all the people in mental off is on the train, they all living down there in the in the subway, um masturbating, all kinds of craziness, people snatching food, people you know, making you feel uncomfortable. I can't take

the train for more reasons than one. Obviously, I can't just be moving about the city any kind of way. But also I don't believe that anyone is gonna help me in the event that something happens. I don't think that people are gonna help me because look at look at the examples of what we've been seeing in this man that got stabbed. But here's the last part of

my little story. So then then, so this is the daytime when I'm going and you know, I don't know, you don't know a lot about weaves, but it takes hours from when they take it out your head, wash your hair, treat your hair, brave your hair, and resew it in and then style it hours. You can easily do five or six hours. So when I started, it was hair removed, washed, ready to be braided. So now I'm going to the store to get something to eat that's processed or all the girls that do this, we know.

But by the time I'm finished, it's nighttime and I'm leaving the salon walking to my car. First thing I gotta deal with is rats running everywhere. And that's not a Harlem problem, as it's everywhere problem. Okay, it's all over New York. If you don't live nowhere, you can't live downtown. You can't be on Fifth Avenue and not see a rat. It's not gonna it's nowhere that you go that you're not gonnaee rats. So I gotta deal with that. It's rat That's so that's my first thing.

It's dark, right, nobody's really around. The people that are out there, they're still the same people that's outside. Then as I'm going to my car, now it's young people out there looking like they're getting ready to get into a fight. And I'm worried about straight But so I I all I'm saying. And by the way, just so everybody knows, because I know they're gonna say, well, you want to defund the police. It was cops everywhere. They're not doing nothing nothing. Nobody was doing nothing. The cops

ain't doing nothing. Nobody's helping the mentally ill people. The people is over there, the cop cars sitting down here here on the phone, he's texting, he's hanging out, he's chilling. And the people, the the person that's on the ground, uh having an attack, half dressed, no shoes on their feet. They're right there. So the cops ain't doing nothing about that. The kids that's fighting the cops was right there. There's

a precinct nearby. All of this stuff that's happening still right there and with the police sitting in the middle of it, in the community, So that can't possibly be the solution. Yeah, it's it's it's really bad, you know. And and I don't know why they think giving more police like we have to have none to health facilities.

There needs to be people that are going into these training stations, going into certain areas and and you know, really interacting and getting these people through services and bringing them to the facilities and like figuring out how to help these people. Because locking them up and saying get out of here so they can go to down the block and you know and do whatever it is, it's not helping, you know, It's I see what you're saying. Trust me. I've watched a lot of mental health situation.

Is a guy that that goes to the gym, and sometimes when he's not at the gym, I just see him walking through the hood and he'd just be talking to himself and shaking his head and he'd be doing this little dance he does. Like he's stopping the middle of street and he going to gym and he's talking to himself the whole time. He don't say nothing. He's kind of brawlic too, and it's just like he's in his own world. He doesn't look like he's harming nobody,

but you definitely know that he's dealing with issues. And it's like, where's his home with his people? And he looks like, I don't even know he I don't know if he has a membership. They just let him in. It's just the weirdest thing, man, just watching how these things, how you know how certain people are dealing with things and our community aren't doing anything that doesn't have anything

in place to help them. Listen, there's a lot of weird things are head and you're right, we don't have enough. It's not enough. And I feel like I'm sitting overre you know, I'm a big baby. I just want to start crying, like in the midst of this damn interview, because that's I grew up born and raised in Harlem. It's my place, and when I start feeling uncomfortable in

my place, there's a problem. There's a problem. And I guess a part of it is that we have to be uncomfortable so we can start read grounding ourselves and going back to these places and these experiences and figuring out what's next. So it makes me and I've I've already done it. I sent several text messages to different people in the city like, bro, like what what what is going on here? Like? How are we gonna get to a better place? We can't just keep saying we're

working on it. There has to be some actual, like real ship to happen. And these people that are out there on the streets, I never forget seeing, you know, over the years, how many of the people I've watched go from the very projects I grew up in to those streets looking the same way going you know, drugs, mental health, prostitution, all these things. And I know for sure that if there was services at the end the projects, right, if there were real services, and I'm not talking about

miss Mary. Then when you go to talk to miss Mary, she like, white what you want? I don't know what's your problem? Where where is your husband? When where is your baby? Father? Or another one got locked up? Because

that's how they speak to you. Oftentimes, when you go to social services, when you go to UH, when you go to to any place, the damn precinct, the wherever you're trying to get help, the people there treat you like you're the problem and like they work they somehow you work for them, or you're doing them a disservice by coming to them with the problem that they're supposed

to be fixing. If we have services at the project's level, how many of the friends that I've had, all the people that I know, would never have made it to those streets. And it's like it's such a simple problem to address. I'm not saying it's a simple problem to fix, but it's a simple problem to address. We know how to do it, and we just choose not to. And it's just, you know, I'm just I'm over people and they're asked me like, oh, why didn't you weigh in

more on this last election? You didn't do this, and you didn't do that. I just ain't feeling it. I'm not gonna lie, just I'm not feeling it. And I understand Mice, I get it, it's dangerous. I get the people that we were up against, I get I get, I understand it all. But I'm still I'm struggling with looking at these reality of these and trying to go

vote for people that the same ship continues. So anyway, moving along in Texas, speaking of people who are nuts in Texas, do you know that they now have a DNA test that can be used to test the bodies of people in mass shootings? Like yo, bro, Instead of getting in since that of figuring out, they gotta a DNA test that is, it can be used now to

find your loved ones in a mass shooting. So instead of getting rid of the guns that's too well, not getting rid of limiting access to the weapons that are used to kill the people, they got a DNA test that you can find the people after they die. So they figured out a way that they're gonna profit off the mass you because the only reason you would need that DNA test is if a mass you wouldn't happen. So that means that they are actually telling you we're

gonna make sure that these mass shootings keep going on. No, don't say that, that's what What do you mean. They're not trying to make sure they keep going on. They just ain't trying to do anything about them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We well, we even if we're not gonna make sure, we're not gonna stop them from going on. So we know they're gonna continue to go on. So we're gonna know we're gonna need these DNA tests, so we're gonna accommodate the mask killing, and we're gonna make

it easier for you to find your loved one. Make sure it's easier for you because mass killer is gonna keep happening because we ain't gonna do nothing but this gun. So we're gonna make sure that when they happen, we got you. We make sure you know who's your loved one. Amongst the caucus. It's a shame, and it's it's it's like he said, day you always say there's so many things going on as crazy. It's like you could be just like this all day. It's over simulation. That's why

you can't be being on internet. But and another thing is that, um lord and mercy, the b bls, honey, the b b LS, the b BL. BBL is a big deal, right. And there was a time when a lot of people didn't get them because they were killing people. I mean really like a lot of people dying. But now it's not as much in terms of casualties. They get them done. But good work. It's a new problem. And and and there's a woman that they've been pasted

circulating on. Her story has been circulating on social media where it's been several weeks now, where she went to go get a b b L and they took her kidneys. Like yo, bro, I never even thought about that. I've never even all about that. Obviously, I've never had a BBL, but I have been under the knife for different reasons. And I can tell you that, um I never thought that about when I go to sleep, could they take my organ? That's crazy? They only took one. They said

they took one kid. Okay, well they took one of her kidney, well ship one? Oh well thanks, you know what. That was nice of them. They left her with one kid. But Oregon Oregan, what is it like stealing? That's not the word, it's an actual term for it. But oregon harvesting, oregan harvesting, illegal organ harvesting is it's massive, Like there's a whole lot of money in people getting people's organs.

I watched a movie one time about it with this woman like her husband found her heart, but and she was all kind of like the whole time, She's like, bro, like, I don't know where you got this hard from. I've been on the list now for you know, ten years or whatever time, and all of a sudden, you pop

up with this heart. Come to find out, a woman in their same community went missing, and when they finally found her, her heart had been removed, and the lady ended up connecting it and figured out that her husband paid these people to go take the lady's heart, to kill the lady and steal her heart to save his wife. That it's like, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. So anyway, people need to be real careful and and I'm gladden it this supposedly happened in the Dominican Republic.

But it's good for those stories to come out because it makes you think twice, like are you sure that this is something that you have to do for whatever reason, because these things can happen to you. It's like I said, may not be dying as much, but these bad jobs and these oversized asses. Who yo. I was walking and the supermarket one day and the lady walked asked me, and her ass was so big, her back looked like it was falling down on the ground. Her ask was crazy,

but she had all kinds of shots. Her lips were stretched it. I said, this is really it's tough out here. Man. They out here that though y'all love them, that's why they get done as we don't. That's not that's not actual factual. And we're trying to we've been trying to tell women. There's a lot of men out here saying is you're going too far, you're doing too much. It's not working. It doesn't look good. If you've got two basketballs as an ass and your your legs look like

you know, number two pencils is not working. You look like a man. You know. If you're out here and your eyelashes from here to here is you look like you know. But they're doing it because somebody likes doing it. Because they're confused. There's a confused like I don't know what you like they are. I mean their jobs they are bbls that certain women good and they were, oh sh this should look good. It's proportionate, you know, it's voluptuous.

It works. But there's certain ones that you don't even know what they think is what's going on in their minds and you gotta act you don't even I don't even know the dude that is sitting there like yeah that should when you show them, like this's what I'm getting there, like yeah, that's get that one, like I want to know to do that's sitting there that's authorizing some of these works. Now, that's like make it big. They like big booties. The surgeries I'm saying, some of

these surgeries don't even look like they paid for. They look like somebody volunteered. Like they're going to the volatiers. They're going to the volunteer on the job training. They're like, you're listening, you know how you can do certain things, and they're like, we're gonna have the needs do things,

so they give it to you for free. It's certain things that you know, haircuts and all that you can go to certain to get free haircuts because they got to do the experiment on you, and you just gotta take what he gets, so you can't be mad. So I think a lot of these bbls is in those services. Like the dude he trying to become a surgeon. He never did nothing. He said, Yo, you signed over a

waiver if you die. You know, just understand, this is fresh new people, and they're giving bbls to people something in the US. Not in the US when they go out of the country, that's true. But in the US you gotta kind of have Simpsons. George Simpson, he just came up with the streets. He was smoking weed. He's like,

you know what, I want to be a doctor. And he's taking the online course and some of these changes in volatiers to let George said Simpson, when they were letting those women in their basements give them them shots. I'm trying to tell you, bazy though, like wow, Like I get it, I get it. We also look good. We wanna, you know, look good, but you look So that's what I'm saying. That's why you defeating the purpose, because you actually want to look good and that's what

you want to do. Then this ain't it anyway, we've got a guess, A good guess, so guess for the ages. I'm so because I've been interviewed by her so many times and admire her. She's a good friend of mine. Now I get to ask some questions I'm trying to give my you know, let's get into it right now.

That's so, here we go again, Mr Lennon, with our friends. Um. You know, this is a special friend though, for for us, for me, I remember some time ago, years ago, now, you were like, now gotta get connected with Angela Yeed. It was a few people that you were like, no, these are these are the folks that you need to be talking to. And the friendship that we've developed over time, all of us together has been like a Family's so important to have people, your people out here, um, that

you can call on and and and work with. And so today our friend is joining us on Street Politicians and she's never been a guest, and I don't know how that happened, but I'm super, super, super duper excited to have Angela Yee, who's a co host on The Breakfast Club. She's one of the co hosts and I guess it's actually her show. Lip Service which I'm expecting that to go super super global, because it's already something that I it's my little it's my little, dirty, little

secret entertainment that I have to watch. This is a social entrepreneur. The woman is in real estate, your juice bars, coffee shops, all types of businesses, and and it's also a mentor to even people like me who are trying to learn how to get into the business of real estate. Thank you so much, Angela Ye, our family, our sister, our friend. Thanks for being a guest on Street Politician.

What an amazing introduction. Thank you. I would never listen me and to Mika our friends, I'm definitely not her into. I looked at her like to see what's going on. And I appreciate when you guys, both you and my son pulled me into things and conversations that are important. So I look to y'all for that. Yeah, well listen, man, you know, I've known you for years and just admired your growth from you know, I remember doing a lip

service years ago. I'm just watching before Breakfast Club, before all these things, and you know, just watching you just mature into just badass. You know what I'm saying, Just doing all the things that you're doing. So I just want to say that I'm proud of you and I love what you've evolved into. So I want to say that first, well, thank you all you guys. So you

are definitely badass. And when I say the mentorship thing, like you were the first person that started telling me, listen to this, like bags and shoes is cool, but we need to buy real estate. You've gotta get investments. And while I have not necessarily gotten into real estate like the way that I want to, I've been investing in things like plays um and just other important moves that I'm trying to make. But you helped me to see, like there is a whole financial literacy side that us

fool girls have to be focused on. It's not just what's on us. It's like, you know what's in our bank accounts, what we're putting into our minds, investing in ourselves, and you really want the first people to start talking to me about it. So that is mentorship. And it's nothing wrong with the fact that in life, each one of us we take moments when we bring our skill stuff. That's what friendships are about. And I always say, we

have this statement. If you can't be used, you're useless, right, Like, you're useless, right, Like everybody needs to be able to use their friends, but in a positive way and give back. And that's the problem. So many people want. I'm sure you have people around you that want, but then they

don't want to pour back in. Yeah, and at some point you gotta take a spectability for who you're around too, because you know, as that whole for me one shame on you, for me twice shame on me type of situation, right, And I do say that too. I feel like when it comes to friendships, I need to have people around me who are smarter than me at other things. So it might be things that I bring to the table, but then there's things that somebody else brings to the table.

Then I'm like, well, I never thought about that. And also people who aren't like, oh, you shouldn't do that, that's not gonna work, or let's figure out how we can make this work, or let me introduce you to

this person. And I feel like sometimes and I never used to think this until recently, but friendships do have to be sometimes intentional, right, where you meet somebody or you see somebody and You're like, that looks like an amazing person that I should know and I would like to get to know better because I feel like and you know, I don't know. Sometimes it's not a friendship but more like a relationship that you feel like this

is something that could mutually benefit both of us. But you know that is something that I feel like I've learned later in life is important because a lot of times we feel really an obligation to stay around the same people that we've been around. You don't want to

feel like you changed up. You want to say, Okay, I know this person for X y Z, even if they're not growing away that you're growing, or even if they're a negative part of your life and every time you're talking to them it's like, oh, that's just dragging me down. You still feel this obligation where you don't want to feel like you're leaving somebody behind. But sometimes for your own sanity, if that person is not good for you, then you don't need to be around them.

You can be cool from a distance. Wow. So I mean, I know so much about just being around you and knowing about your career and just seeing it, but I don't I don't think I've ever really heard like the beginning, like what was where did you start? Where did you come from? Like I want to get a little background. I want to interview you because you're used the interviewing everybody else asking the good questions and the top one. So I want to know that, like where did you

stomp as a little girl? Like, give me a little background. Well, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm from flat Bush, and so my parents growing up, they were married from when I you know, they got married, they had my brother. Um, my mom was actually pregnant when they got married, and then they had me right after. So my brothers like a year and three months older than me, So they had us kind of back to back. And we grew up in

flat Bush to family house. My grandparents lived downstairs. My grandparents are from the island montrat and my mom, my brother, and I, UM, and my dad lived upstairs. And so I grew up like having to go to church in Harlem every single week because my grandfather and my grandmother

were super religious. Um, they moved back to the West Indies, left the house from my mom and my dad and me and my brother, so we ended up staying there and the reason why we moved out of Brooklyn to New Jersey to Southarns when I was fifteen years old was because somebody tried to rob my dad at gunpoint while he was walking a dog, and so he was like, we gotta get out of here, and so we ended up moving to New Jersey and I was like so depressed. But um, that's you know. I grew up going to

public school from kindergarten to sixth grade PS. Two thirty five in Broklyn, Learning is Alive. And then I ended up going to private school. I went to Polly Prep because my mom went to Erasmus and she really didn't want me going to Erasmus. So they put me in this program for underprivileged kids that were really smart and we had to take like all these tests to get in and then they sent me to private school. M hm, to private school. Yeah, so you you I went to

private school as well. Do you and so you lived in the community or do you feel like you lived so like on the outskirl or did you live like in the urban areas where the ship was going down? Oh it was going down. I mean I lived in Flappwershs, like two blocks him serious to anybody who knows that neighborhood in Brooklyn Um, it was definitely going. It was like block parties on the block every year, so much fun. But you know, gunshots at night, you to hear them.

You know, fireworks random times all the time. But I grew up there, so you don't think of things as like this is not a good neighborhood or a good place to be. This is all you know, and so when I was growing up, it really was all I knew. And then people would be there, you that where you grew up, where they couldn't believe it, but it was I had the same experience because it was like, you know, going to Catholic school and doing all of these things

outside of the community. When I would come back, do you feel like people did you get picked on or did you feel awkward because you were getting these to this sort of dual experience. I would say that growing up, I was perfectly finding my neighbor It wasn't until I left to go to private school that I felt awkward. When I was in seventh grade and I went from an experience of being in a community with all black people a lot of Caribbean culture. There you know Haitian

Guyanese trainage and making all of that around us. And then I moved. Well, no, then I would to private school, and I had never I really did not. I knew two white people before that, besides my teachers. They were twins and their mom was a teacher at the school. And other than that, I did not know any white kids until I went to private school. And these were not just like regularly. These were kind of rich and they rich and you have to think that neighborhood is like,

you know, there's a lot of Italian people. It was all like Italian Jewish. There was some Greek students and and so it was definitely a culture shock for me. And they weren't used to us either. So there's a handful of black kids. It's a small school, and it was just it was a weird experience for me. I actually only went there. I went there from seventh grade to ninth grade, and I was like, I can't do

this anymore. It was really bad. And I as a question real quick one you said, if you had a baby, would you do the same thing that your parents did with you in terms of education. I would want my kids to go to a school that's more diverse, you know. I feel like it had its benefits as far as smaller classes and then sports. Polly Prep had a great sports program. I mean we had tennis courts, we had you know, squash courts, we had soccer field. I played

field hockey, I ran track, I played basketball. I did the long jump, the triple jump, the high jump, and so all of that physical activity was great because I don't feel like I was encouraged to do that when I was in public school, but I feel like they were. So we had to play a sport. It was no choice, you had to. And so I got really into sports

and I enjoyed and I appreciated that. I appreciated the smaller classes and the electives and the attention that the teachers gave you, because I feel like in public school I had most of the teachers that I had were not amazing. I had a few that stood out, but I had teachers who told me I wasn't gonna be shipped, you know, when I was and that didn't really happen

in private school. I had one teacher that was like, you think when I was in the program, she was like, you think you're so special because you're in this program, You're not gonna be anything. And I really feel like it has to be a balance though, because culturally it was tough. I think about some of the black kids that went to my high school that never went to public school or we're not around a lot of kids that look like them, and just how sheltered that life

was and how different it can be. And so I do think it's important. I always say, a lot of people will be like super pro black, but then they send their kids to school where the kids are the only black kids in the whole school, And I don't know who you think your kids are gonna wind up being with later in life if they're never exposed, you know, to anything else. So there's just got to be some

type of balance. I think that you can find schools that are more diverse and it doesn't have to be like because we were in the middle of Bay Ridge and it was a lot of racist things. I mean a lot of it came out in the news, but a lot of racist things happened, and it was a tough environment to be in. I think I was fortunate that I had the background that I had, where I knew who I was and how I grew up and I had my own friends outside of that. But if

I would have just grew up in that bubble. I remember one of the white girls at school telling me, you know, she said something racist in the locker room, and I was like, well, you know, I'm black, and she was like, well, yeah, but you're not like them. And I just after that, I was like, I gotta get out of here. There must have been an experienced. So you went, you left that school, and then you went towards school. So then I went to public school. I went back to public school in Jersey. I went

to Columbia High School in Maplewood, and I was Jennifer Williams. Yes, you know, so I moved there in tenth grade and so yeah, we have a mutual friend Jennifer. You don't know her from basketball wives. So when I moved to New Jersey, and it was I'm gonna tell you, when I moved there, I did not know now one person. And so I remember the Davy moved. I walked around the neighborhood and I was in the park. I just

started crying. I was so sad and depressed, like where am I didn't have any idea how far it was. I really had never other than going to visit my grandparents in the West indiast, I had never really left Brooklyn, you know, so I didn't know. I don't even think I knew anything about New Jersey. I didn't comprehend like I could get on the train and go right back to Brooklyn. I just thought I was cut off from

everything and everybody. And so the first day of school, I didn't know the teachers were on strike, and so I get to the school, all the teachers are outside picketing, so I can't even like register for classes. So they had us all sitting in the auditorium watching roots all day. That was my first day in school. Yeah, nothing got done. And then they just put me in a random home room and we just sat in home room all day.

And that was the beginning of my school year. And then that's how I met all Like I really kind of met all of my friends who I'm still friends and to this day kind of been that first week of you know, non school. Jennifer was one of them. Wow, that's what made you? How did you get to do what you do and say I want to be a host, I want to do radio, Like, what inspired you to do that? Well, I actually never thought I would be doing this. I was always more of a background type

of person. So I wanted to be a writer. I wanted to I was doing marketing at the time, so I was doing freelance marketing for different companies, and then I started working for Eminem's clothing line and I was doing marketing for that and then I saw that, Um one day, I was just like, let me look at this jobs listing because I had to figure out what I needed to do. I had to get like a stable situation to make money to pay my bills, and so I was like, let me figure out what I

want to do. So I look at all these job listings and I see Serious has a job opening in the marketing department, and so I called Paul Rosenberg as manager and I'm like, hey, I really want to, um, you know, try to get an interview. Can you just link me up with the interview? And he was like, have you ever thought about being a radio personality. They're looking for a co host on Cide the Sounds morning show, and he was like, you can audition for that if

you're interested. And that's really how it happened. So you were going for a marketing job and then oh, I thought you were like very intentional about being a host. So that was it just happened. And I, when I tell you, I knew not a thing. I walked in there first. Cype for Sounds had no idea what was going on. He was kind of blindsided to when I just showed up, like he was like, who is what? He knew me? You know, because I actually had a lot of great relationships. I had worked for Woutang, Like

I said, I had been working for Eminem. I was doing marketing for different brands like UM, the marketing company I was at. They did marketing for aver Rex, for Sprint, UM Wireless, for the New York Liberty, for Heineken. So I was familiar with so many people in the industry. And I was also like a party kid growing up. So I was always at the tunnel. I was always at the palladium, I was at grants, tomb, I was at all of the events in this so listen, I

was no Now, I was super outside. I was like I had an itinerary, you know what I'm saying, Like the night here, Ursday night here, Friday night here, Saturday and I was outside and they all knew me in the clubs, like I didn't have to wait on any lines, and I was young. It wasn't like I had any real whatever. But you know, jess A c Rosse and Bloom knew me, and so anything she did, she was like, Angela, come to this. We're having something for you know, biggie thing.

His mom is putting together the foundation, like come, and so they would just invite me to everything. And already you was tapped into the culture. So it's not like it was this new phase, but radio was different. Tell me something though, when you say you were doing marketing, what did marketing look like at that time? And you know, you go around, Yeah, you're laughing because you know, like what did it look like? What were you doing? Well,

depending on what the client was. So let's just say I did marketing for a couple of clothing rot lines, Varsity and Shot Brothers, and then also um Shady Limited. Eminem's line was one of my clients, and so basically that consisted of a lot of product placement because everybody wanted to get their stuff like in magazine shoots and videos just to get people wearing it. If you were going on tour, I might send you a package, try to get you to you know, get photographed in the clothing.

And so that was a huge part of it, was the product placement. But then it would be like ads, you know, and how are we gonna get write ups about this? So it was it just kind of involved everything. And then now Rogers he had a distribution label, so I was doing marketing for there. He had this one hip hop group that he wanted me to help him with, and so that was a matter of getting them, like they wanted me to get them into events, get them none,

get them some link ups with some journalists. So it was things like that, and so I think nowadays it's completely different. It's very different. It's very that was the real mark didn't work you were doing, Yes, you had to have relationships, dream just have to be on the internet and just send some music that was already gone. You had to really create it. So you went from you started working with Cyper Sounds and then when did you start doing little service? How did that come up?

So I used to have this segment on on Cypher Sounds show. It was every Wednesday. So what I would do is I would record it once a month and it would be like a group of girls, you know. One of them was a receptionist, one of them was a lawyer, and I would just get like different girls. We had Buffy the Body on there, we had had the Hunter, and we would just kind of talk about sex. And it was called let It Out. It was a

segment once a week. But I had a reason, you know, for that name, like you know, have some like It was kind of like the thought was that a lot of times guys think that women are supposed to act a certain way and not talk about things, but the way we are behind closed doors with each other and the conversations that we have are really just open, and we're so vocal about things. I think women talk about their experiences in a different way than men speak to

each other. Y'all might not even talk about it like that, but I think for women, like when you're with a guy and whatever happens, you'll call your friends to be like, girl, so let me tell you what he did and I don't like that he did this, and then he did that. But so it was kind of the goal of the show was for us to have these open conversations about sex and sexuality no judgment, and I called it let it Out because I was like, these guys don't know

they're getting slut it out. So that was kind of the purpose of it. No offense, my son, but you know, I'm kidding. But the segment got so popular that um you know, Sorious came to me and they were like, listen, Angela, we think you should make this like a standalone show. We want to give you a weekly show. And that's how it had happened, and we named the Lip Service

and my first co host was um Lea Rose. She was the music editor at Double X out and so she was great at helping book guests and she was really smart and she had great questions and people had good relationships with her already. Well, so what year was that. What year did the start? I don't even know. Let me see, I worked at Serious for six years and so uh it was company like around two thousand six

or seven. That's yeah, I remember, because I think I came up there like two thousand and eight, two thousand nine were Lad That was like the first song that I went there. So I feel like I put I did last first interview on the radio ever. Remember where Yeah it was you did the first interview. So then so now we're going were at the breakfast club? Did we get there yet? Okay, so what happened before the breakfast club? So I think serious was really good for me,

just as far as establishing myself. Um, Like my son said that I met him, he was you know, he was working with Black probably met you before that, but I did last first interviewer, and I was the type of person like something would happen because that was around the time he had the beef with Rick Ross, you know, and then he had some issues, and I think I was just so like doing whatever at that time. I

would do stuff like glad here. I'd be like, well, we got Joe Button on the phone, and it would be and he would be like what totally caught up like the time. Yeah. So I was very uncensored back then, but it got a lot of attention. And one thing I also did do early on, I was really um cool with Q from world Star, who owned world Star. Rest in peace to Q, and so I had he would put a lot of my videos on World Star, so I would I had um. One of the guys

that worked with us, Sean, he would film. I bought my own camcorder and so he would film when we did interviews. That Serious was so mad about it. They send out like a company wide email like knowing us to put out any content or whatever. They shut it down because they didn't like that I was giving away content for free. I looked at it like, these are just little parts of the show that will make people

want to subscribe to me. It was like, in my marketing bag, I'm thinking, this is great marketing for the show. This is just you know, thirty minutes out of a four hour show. You should want this to go out. And it was getting picked up everywhere, you know, And so that's what really got me a lot of attention. So okay, so that doctor known, So how what's the what is the process of getting to a big show like the Breakfast Club? Like, how does that work when

you interview? You know, did you know that the show was coming or did they build the show around y'all? How did they start? So what happened was, um, I was getting a lot of other authors like Philly Atlanta.

People wanted me. And after after everything that was happening as Serious, I got a lot of attention from other places, and one person who hit me up was Jee Spen at the time worked at Power one oh five now at the time, he tried to get me to come to Power just to do like weekends and to fill in for people, like if somebody was out, you know, you could fill in, and Serious shut me down. And

I was so mad. I was like, everyone else is working at other stations while you know, they were like, oh well they got grandfathered in and you can't do it. And I thought it was so unfair. So I told g Spin, Look, if there's an opportunity for me to get a full time job, don't think that I feel like I have to stay as serious, Like I'm willing to leave and do something else. And so, you know, there was an opportunity, and they didn't tell us what

it was. At first, they knew they wanted to hire me, they just didn't know in what capacity, Like were they gonna put me on a day show and give me a show then? But then when they realized they were going to redo the whole morning show, they called me

and being Charlotte Magne in together for a meeting. They had to talk to each of us individually, and then they called us in together to let us know that we were going to do the new morning show, and I literally had to sign a contract like that same day, and that's how it happened. So I had to have my lawyer look at it. I didn't sign. I was the last one to sign because I was like, I'm not just signing this, you know, And I had to have my lawyer look at it. And then I didn't

get everything back until the evening. And so when the evening came and I had, you know, some responses, a little bit of back and forth, and then I finally um ended up signing. So you made sure that business was straight I will always do. You're very much business oriented, like that's and and and you said that, like you don't let these things stop you from moving, but you still are very very conscious of doing the business as well.

Where did you you get that? You think that that came from your upbringing in terms of where you know, how you've been educated. I think it's me just seeing other people signed me step deals and feeling like I didn't want to do that, and so you know, it was easier for me to learn from the mistakes of others. And I've signed deals that I mean, I could think of one in particular that I never should have done,

but sometimes you don't know what you don't know. But I'm also the type of person that will honor a deal that I signed. So if I did sign this deal, I honor it. And I always try to get like the shortest deal possible because I think when you have a lot of confidence in yourself and you know that okay, I'm not wanting to feel tied into something, then you know that a shorter deal is better because then it's

you can renegotiate when it's time. And so I've always had a band of doing like a short Some people like longer deals for the stability of it, but I've always felt like I've laid down the groundwork that I could leave and I don't feel like I have to rely on any one thing, And I think that's an important way to feel. I never want to feel. Even if things wouldn't have worked out for me to go over to, you know, the breakfast club, I still had a job. It wasn't like I was, you know, didn't

have anything or didn't have other opportunities. I had other places that I could have went. That was just the best one for me, and so I think it's good to feel like you have options and never feel like I have to do this or nothing. Ll So my question, like Breakfast Club is probably like one of the biggest shows in history in the world, Like has it always?

Has it been fun? Hasn't been ups and downs? Like because when people look at it just from the outside looking, it's like, oh, well, look think I just think it show. They just don't like, what is your perspective? Has it been? Because it hasn't always been like the top show that was there turn more to relate that this show you ain't doing the numbers, like what is the behind the scenes kind of Oh it was awful at first. It

almost didn't last. They didn't think that we were going to make it past like the year two, and so sometimes you do have to give things a chance and let it get over the hump. And we did have some people that believed in us. I think our online presence is what saved us too. We were really ahead

of everything when it came to putting content online. We would do these little skits and so it really set the tone for us to also be syndicated because we were doing these It's so even if you weren't in New York, you were able to see what was happening. And things are different back then. It's not like we had streaming services. It's not like we had aps like we have them now. So if you weren't here, you

just weren't gonna hear it. And so early on it was just people who did not think it was gonna work because it took a little while to find that rhythm to get the strike going. And I mean definitely being with people every single day. We did that show for twelve years, and they definitely were some ups and downs on everybody's behalf of people like not getting along with each other, and even not just the host, but also people behind the scenes. Um, you know, things have

happened life. It was real life happening work. I mean there were times every and even nothing to do with us, but personally a lot of people have gone through things, you know where I mean at one point and he didn't think he was going to come back to the show at all while he was trying to deal with things, you know, in his home life, and so, um, you know,

definitely a that we've gone through. But I also feel like as we all grow and change and hopefully become more mature and spread out into other businesses and things, work becomes the place where we see each other, not

really outside of work. So sometimes that does help. You just have to figure out what's best, because I think it's an issue when I've had jobs when I was as serious where people hung out outside of that all the time, and sometimes that's not a good thing because then there's not that separation of work and you know, outside pleasure like life, and so sometimes you don't want that.

Sometimes you want to feel like you're the producer. You tell us what to do, and I'm doing this, and I want to be able to speak up and not be in my feelings about the fact that we was all just hanging out last night. Now I gotta come here and switch up my role. And so I think that in certain situations, is it is a better thing to not have to be all friendly, chummy chumming with people. You have to stop established business boundaries, and it does.

It makes it uncomfortable, you know, to speak up about business when you feel like you have a friendship with someone, because you don't want to hurt their feelings. You don't want to come home some way, so okay, And sometimes people take advantage of you too if they feel like we're friends, and so you'd be like, yo, I'm not coming covered from me, like just act like this, and

you're like, damn, this messes everybody else up. And you know, so sometimes things just happened like that, because I've seen it happen in other jobs, even me being a business owner and seeing the issues that I have with some employees that get all friendly and hang out outside of work, and then how that affects the workplace environment. Sometimes it's not a good thing. That's why sometimes they'll tell you also, workplace relationships can be prohibited for whatever reason. So I

have two questions, where did you develop this conflict? Being in on the radio requires you to have some confidence, you know, and and and even just doing this podcast, some days I'm like, Lord, did I say that right? You know, you can't go back and change it. It just is what it is. You might not know all the words you want to say. And and I'm embracing we're on this show. Would be like, what's the word? Let me figure out, Let me go figure it out. I used to think you had to know now I

know that everything is a journey. We all learning together. We mess up, we fix it, we figure it out, and that's it. But but I didn't want to do street Politicians because I didn't want to put my um imperfections on display. Now I don't care, but at the time I really didn't want to do that. So that's one thing is where did you develop that confidence? And you feel like you just you have it now or

is it still in process? And then the other thing is we all know that there's been challenges, challenges between you and Lenar. You know, I still quote I call him Lenard, but Charlemagne, you know issues on the show. How did it feel having to get up and go to work every day, especially prior to him apologize and to you publicly, and and you having to go there and be in the midst of that pain or whatever you felt. I don't want to, you know, give you words.

How did you do that every day? Um So the first part of your question, I say that it was hard for me at first to do radio and not know things because you feel like I'm supposed to know everything, and it does take a while to figure out that. It makes you know, it's relatable. Everybody doesn't know everything, no matter what's your job. There's no person in the world that does. And sometimes you mess up. The best thing to do is acknowledge that you mess up, or

even just say I don't know. Sometimes it's hard for us to just say I don't know. And I even felt like still to this day, people expect me to know everything just because I'm the one that's doing the news or I'm the one that's doing the rumors. But I don't know everything. It's like fifty stories a day that I'm reading, so sometimes some of the details I

don't have. And so even if Charlottegne or Envy asked me a question, I'm like, well, y'all can also look stuff up too, because we get the same no. So I shouldn't have to know everything, like and so, But people don't acknowledge that, Like they'll be like, oh, Angela didn't know this this morning. I'm like, well, not that the other two guys in the room. Why is it

just me? You know? And so I feel like a lot comes on you and that's the responsibility that you end up having to take because of the role that you have on the show. But I have realized now that there's just certain things out of your control and you just have to be like, I don't know, you know. And then as far as far as the challenges, yeah,

it was definitely some challenging times for me. I made sure that I, you know, vocalized how I felt, and then I moved past it because another thing that I realized is that people don't really care, right Like, if you want to talk about something you say at one time and move on. The more you talk about it, that people were like, oh, you dragging it. They also don't know all the details and ins and out of

everything that happened. And I feel like sometimes the more you say about something, the more it takes on a life of its own. So part of me, yeah, us waking up in the morning not being sure what I wanted to do, it did make me come up with the longer term plan of of knowing that I needed to do my own thing. And so even me getting my own show, We're up with Angela yee. That's something that I've been talking about even during those most challenging times.

I was very vocal at work, you know, with our executives about the fact that I want to do my own thing, and how can we make this happen? And you know, at first it was we're gonna give you your own show, but we want you to stay on the Breakfast Club. And in my head the way that I think, I was like, I'll write that out for a little while, but I'm gonna do so great on my own show that they'll want me to focus on that.

That's what I was thinking. But the unfortunately they came at me and said, look, uh, we're just gonna give you your whole own show, nationally syndicated. It's a huge, huge honor things that we believe you, um, we trust in you, We see the work that you put in. We know you're gonna do an amazing job and you deserve it. And so I was so relieved that I would be able to just focus on one thing, because I was also like, I'm about to have to bust my ass doing two shows and I'm not even gonna

be able to enjoy my life. And so for me, this was just the ultimate best thing that could have happened. I'm glad that I was very professional about things and that I still was able to go to work, even though sometimes it can be challenging, but to still show up and do what I have to do. And you know, I think a lot of people, if you pay attention, you'll be like Angel doesn't seem like herself or and I was feeling that way. Yeah, yeah, I was definitely

feeling that way also. But I also never went to let anybody feel like, you know, they got me to uh be like you know how you don't want to feel like somebody won or you got defeated in anything. And so for me, I always have to represent myself and the best way possible, and that was being a professional and knowing what my goals are and knowing that I have a longer term goal because I'm not a rash decision maker where I'm gonna just be like I'm

not doing this anymore, I'm out of here. It was never gonna be that for me because I've done too much and worked too hard to not be able to reap the benefits of all the work I put in. I just You've just always been a consonant professional, like you know, even in those times like you know, I know you so and I know all of you guys, so I'm able to sense since like, yes, I don't really right here, but you always still did your job,

You came to work, you did things. You know, even I and I admitted, like when I understood what she was going through because my diftain things, I was like, n that ain't okare with me? And I had conversations like now you probably shouldn't did that off off, you know, off camera and all of that. So I understood what you was going through. But watching you just continuously move through those things and just grow it just it gave me just an understanding, like a deeper understanding what it

takes to be in this business, you know. And so I just wanted once again employed you for being a profess. When I know your show is gonna be dope, So what is it gonna Is it gonna comprise of like kind of what you do at the breakfast club with lip service? Like what is the show gonna the format gonna be? You know? So I was just coming from a meeting yet another one about my show, and I have a lot of different segments that are planned out.

I have so many segments I have to cut some of them out because it's like they're like all right, Angela, but they're excited because I have so many ideas so um, certain things I want to do. I definitely want to be more tapped in with the community and the average

everyday person. So it'll definitely obviously we'll have those interviews, um with celebrities and things like that, but I also want to make sure that I'm doing things with uh, you know, I have a segment that I'm planning with high schoolers that I'm gonna be doing so we get to hear from them and get their input because we care. We need to listen to what the kids are saying now too in the next generation. And so there's something

special I have planned for that. You know, there's a round table discussions based on issues that and I know both of you all gonna end up being on the show a lot, but you know, really important things that I want to discuss. Entrepreneurship, financial wellness. Those are really important things to me. And so any type of information that I can bring to people and that people can bring to me that I feel like we need to have this on the show. Women's issues. Obviously, I care

a lot about being a black woman. A lot of what we just even talked about is something that's relatable to a lot of black women, you know, being in the office or being in a workspace and feeling like you're not being heard, or feeling like you have to go to work and fight every day just to be seen and understood and all of those things, and so being able to bring light to that in a real way,

I'm excited for um you know. I know right now I do front page news, but on the news show, I really want to do more stories that don't have to be the headline stories. And so I'm just trying to make things a little more um me because right now I'm part of a collect if. So everything's not what Angela wants to do, but this is gonna be more like, Okay, I see that this is something that Angela came up with, and it's gonna be fun. You know, there'll be a lot of fun happening, and it's and

it's it's also not just what three individuals want. There's a lot of pressure on your show because it's so big. So once something grows to be so big, there's advertisers, their expectations, and I don't think people understand the ins and outs and they just want you. Why can't you know people call me every other day, get me on the Breakfast Club. It's like, it's not that, it's that. It's like, it's it's not like that. You know what I mean, It's not that kind of environment. I can't.

You can't. It's I get your point, but you're talking about something that you're doing in a small town in you know, Connecticut somewhere and not saying that that's not important. I get it. The issue is important. Maybe somebody will do alive with you, but to bring you to this national platform and have you on the show, it might not work out with all the other things they have

going on, but people do not understand that. So thankfully you've got another It's still gonna be national right nationally, it's nationally syndicated. I'll be on after the Breakfast Club. So literally they're my opening act. That's good, of course, man, that I wanted it just and I know it's time for you to go. We can sit here and talk for all day, just learning more about your story and just how you think. Um, you know you when you talked about being a professional and how you said nobody

really cares. That's such a powerful point point because people think going to social media complaining about all their problems or doing a million interviews trying to make you know, to talk about who did you wrong or whatever that that is going to make them feel better, and instead the Internet tears back at you. That's just the way it works. They take no matter who did what, they still will find fault and even the person who's trying to express how they got harmed, and it just doesn't work.

And the professional piece is so important because no matter where you go, even if Okay, Tamika did mice aren't wrong, or Tamika did Angelie you wrong, they still don't want you to be problematic. Nobody wants to work with a person that's whining and complain that. They just don't want to do it. And it's messed up that the world is like that. But I'm sure you learned along the way. Nobody cares. Yeah, and you know what the flip side

of nobody cares. And when I say, like, you can go complain and do all this and people are like, shut up, who asked you? Nobody cares? I got bigger problems. The flip side of nobody cares is nobody cares as much as you do. So something might be the worst, biggest thing in the world to you, but it's not that big a deal, and the grand scheme of things on the flip side, you don't realize in two days it's all will blow over and no one really will

care anymore. So just leave it alone because the worst thing that you could do is blow something up into an even bigger situation than it had to be. And so there is two sides to the whole. Nobody cares. You know, it sucks because if you're going to social media to get some type of sympathy or empathy, it's not the right place for that to happen. It never works. I've tried it and I'm telling you, and I've watched other people do it, and then it ends up being

you become the problem somehow. It's like it's just it's it's a nasty world out here. So that's the last thing I want to ask, and I know my probers to it, Okay, things, Yeah, I want to ask is what is like You've done so many different interviews, like so I've seen you know, you've got historical interviews like what is your favorite and what was your work? And the second question is have you done an interview that

you regretted. It was like, I probably shouldn't have or lost a relationship based on an interview or anything like that, things that you might regretted. Um, I'm trying to think. I don't think I've ever lost a relationship based on an interview necessary and not somebody that I cared about that I was like, you know, that was my friend

before this, and now they don't ask me anymore. Because I also, i'd never have like a malicious intention when I do any interviews, and anybody who really is my friend and knows that knows that about me, So I wouldn't say I've lost any relationships. And I also, you know, it's interesting like I was doing Black Entrepreneurs Day and and I See was there. He came up to me and he was like, you know, congratulations on your show. And I know, I see, but I don't know that well.

But I've interviewed him a couple of times. He doesn't do like a whole lot of interviews now, And he was like, you know, I just wanna say that. If you need me, let me know. He was like, I don't do a lot of stuff now, but I know you don't have bad intentions when you do. And it meant a lot to me because now that I do have my own show, I know some people like to be like shocking and quote unquote say whatever's on their mind.

And I don't always think that that's the best approach if you're thinking about longevity, you know, because I've learned a long time ago from my own experiences that people are human beings and nobody wants to be dragged or talked about in a degrading way. And so I've learned that a long time ago, and so I'm really conscious about how I speak about people and how I speak to them as well, especially with artists who are like pouring their heart into their work and their business and

this is what they do for a living. I never want to beat up on anybody that is really working hard at trying to accomplish something. I applaud you are ready for being able to put yourself out there like that. Okay, Now, whether or not I like it, it's a whole another story. But that's something that a lot of people don't even try to do, and so that's the approach. I don't even think evil thoughts about people that what I'm saying when people will be like, oh, well you, why didn't

you do this? Or I would have said this, But these are real humans, and I think sometimes people don't look at other people, like especially celebrities, like they're human beings that were feelings, and they could have a terrible day after you say something unnecessarily nasty to them for no reason other than sometimes to try to be funny or make yourself feel better. And so I've always been

really conscious of that. But as far as favorite interviews, um um, I mean, there's been interviews that have really been impactful to me. Uh interfew in East Ray. I

loves Ray and so she's always yeah, one of my favorites. Um. Obviously, when I did the August I've seen in an interview that was an amazing one because I was in the middle of the pandemic, nobody was doing things in person, and other than even just what you know, the bomb about Jada Pinkett and all of that, he said a lot of other great things in that interview and revealed a lot about himself that I thought was really um that people don't even tell about, you know, because everything

else was just so uh so got City Newsworthy so I just feel like that was one of my favorites that I ever did too. M hm. And that's one, and it's one of my least favorites that you've done because of the fact that I'm so close to the Smiths. So it's like, you know, but but that's life. You just you know, you you have moments when you can't

control what's gonna come out. And that's another side of being a public figure, is you can't control moments that can happen in the second and it just it hits, and then you gotta deal with whatever it is that you know comes from that. And it's funny because to your point about trying not to hurt or harm people, you could work so hard on that every single day of your life and really be intentional about it, and

then something will happen and you can't. It's like you can't bottle it back up or try to fix it. It's like life is just so unpredictable, man. And I learned over time that you don't want something happens. It just is what it is, right if something is not intentional, you know, I think some people intentionally are like I'm gonna make this person, Yeah, I don't like this person, so I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna put this story out, and I don't I'm not into that now. I get that.

Like and a lot of times, if I report something, if everyone else is reporting it, I felt like, that's fine. But if I know something that's in confidence that other people don't know, then I'm not gonna do that. You know what I'm saying. And so that's just kind of

some of the codes that I live by. If you do something in front of me and I'm like, damn, you know, should I'm not gonna go back right unless it's something If it's something positive, yeah, but if if something crazy happens, I'm not gonna go on the air and be like yo, so guess what I've seen, whatever, whatever.

And if there is something that is questionable, I'll ask you, like, listen, do you mind if I report this or how would you like me to you know, do you want to give me some more insight because I am going to report this story. But if everybody's doing it and it's on all the blogs and all of that, then it is a rumor reporting. Yeah, it's very gating game. Well, listen to it's I mean, it's so much that's wrapped up in you and this little bitty package and Angela,

you know, we're so teeny, our little self. And know I was gonna say, I know you're not talking about a little bit of grandmother now a little ten grandma is my name, grandma' t But we are so powerful like in our own right these you know, and and and we've come from and have had to overcome so much to get into the places where we are, which is why I don't play. We don't play about us, like don't play with me because I know what I've

had to do. And and that's the thing I wanted to say on the you know, as you go back to your day, Um, what do you what would you say to people who believe that it's the pop up thing, Like I'm just gonna become successful overnight because I'm cute. I got my good BBL. We're gonna talked about that early on the show. Honey. The BBL is wow, Like people are really doing the most, like the most on the plane with their face on the seat and they gotta like be on their knees on the floor and

the whole flight. I'm like, I can't do it. People are risking their life the Halloween concert with a little baby, like we were just talking about that earlier in the show. Just this whole thing with BBLS, Like, I get it. I'm not trying to tell anybody not to get a nick in a tuck and do whatever you wanna do,

take care of yourself, make yourself feel good. But we're at the point where social media, the Internet has made us believe that we gotta have like all this other stuff and body in order to I don't even know what we're trying to accomplish, but I do know that there are a lot of folks. I have a friend who said, oh, I gotta get my b v L

because it's gonna put me in a good position. It's the hard work part, it doesn't It seems like that has missed people all these steps, you know, So I just want to want you to drop some gems about that today, the hard work and the process to get towards where you are in this moment, and and the fact that not an overnight success. I actually am glad that things didn't come from me so quickly and so easily, because I feel like I appreciate it so much more

right now. I feel like I'm so much more responsible being that I work so hard to get to where I am when it comes to my finances, when it comes to how I treat other people, I think sometimes people who are getting it too fast are kind of throwing things away and and not acting the way that I think later on in life they'll be proud of or not making decisions now out that they would have made if they would have had that slower grind to get to where they are. Because when you get that

fast money, that money goes fast too. You think it's always gonna happen, and you don't know what it's like when it's not fair. And so I just am appreciative of that. And also I feel like, um, all this hard work that I put in has laid down a great foundation for me. Like I said earlier, I feel like I could go anywhere and do anything, and I'm still making mistakes and I'm still learning, but I'm open to all of those things. Even when it comes to

opening businesses. There's so many mistakes that I made in my first business that I've opened that every single time I learned, I learned a whole lot more. And I've also, like I said, been going to people now that are doing the things that I admire and that I want to be able to do and asking for help and being able to do that. And then at the same time as we're asking for help and helping others that are in a position that we were in a few

years prior. But I just think that, you know, like I said before, if you're not putting in that work. If you ever read that Buck Mastery by Robert Green, he talks about the amount of hours and hours that it takes in years and decades to master anything. And if you are not trying to be great. It's one thing to be an artists put out a song and pops. You don't want to be a one hit wonder though, right.

You want to make sure that you're constantly working, that you're always in the studio, that you're connecting with the right people, that you're doing those collaborations, that you have a great producer, that you're always growing, whether you're going to be independent or sign a deal, at least you know all of the ins and outs of the business

so that you can make the right decisions. And I think sometimes if we don't have um have that history or have those mistakes that we've made and then come through on the other side, then it's harder to make the better decisions. Sometimes you're just living for the moment, and so be a professional professional. This is this is an interview that that epitomized as professional listen. You know. So we first, well, we want to say thank you for spending an hour out your day with us. You know,

you could have been doing so much other things. You're serial entrepreneur and you've got all mutual many businesses, just finished doing, you know, interviews with the radio and everything. So we want to say thank you for that. I want to wish you all the best. I already know this show is gonna be amazing, and I'm gonna have probably about two or three segments that I gotta listen to every day to tune in. You got I'm gonna be in. I'm definitely gonna gonna be on the show.

Let's definitely. But I just want to continue success. Man, you one of those people that deserve it. You always have a smile, even when you're not happy, you got a smile on your face. So you wanted your spirits, you know, it's certain people. I was somebody. I just seem like a little clip that Kevin Hall put up about certain people's spirit just deserve good things, you know. And so ever since I met you always had a

beutiful spirit, you know. So you are definitely one of God's people who have been ordained to do this work and bring joy into people's lives. So continue to do what you're doing. I see you have. Is this a sent you hustle? Shoot you good do? Oh yeah, oh wow. Shout out to Harry Yoho who still hasn't given me mind, you know, but I'm go my child, for instance, well

ten years old, I still haven't got mine. But you know, we're yeah, I would like to have my hope did so you know, listen, we gotta give our shameless plugs. Well listen, you don't have to get up at We didn't get to ask you about that, but now you don't have to get up at the crack of dawn every day. You can sleep later in the morning. So that is listen, that's a good I have to train the work though, because that's like rush hour. I don't

know what's gonna happen straight through. Wait, Angela before you go, the rats still outside your building, your house, or are we better now? It's not even just that it's walk into my car. It's like I have to walk outside and just be really loud because I do not want them to be scurrying around. There are rats everywhere in Brooklyn. Okay, it is not a game. It's the Manhattan. They're everywhere.

There's nowhere to go. And just for context with people probably like, what the hell are you asking about the rats? I heard, let's say, on the radio that in the morning, she was tracked in her house, scared to go outside because when she went to go out there she saw in the street they were scarrying, and so she almost was late. And I immediately hit up my people that work in the mayor's office and was like, yo, y'all got Angela. You trapped to her house? Here? Like what

are we doing to come on them about rats? All the time my saw over them. I report the rats the street, the corner, the time, I take pictures. I am a rat finder in New York. You here, I'm like the book. It's me and my neighbor. We were just talking about it just yesterday, right, because I have a neighbor on the other side, and there's like too much going on in that house. It's disgusting, it's dirty.

And she said the exterminator came in. Was like until that house on the corner they do something about that. Those rats aren't going anywhere as that house on the corner. And I mean, just text me on the low the address to the house and come to and go knock on the door. Because yo, I can't. I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't not live. I cannot let you. I saw the woman king and I walked out of there, and I felt like, I can't let these rats beat me. I just seen I would you

know you are crazy? You was like, nah, but I bet you. I've bet you one thing. You can talk that junk or you want bet You're not going to fight the rats outside. I'd rather go to war. Send me away. I'm not thank you so much. Looking forward, it's a way up with ye ye ye. That was friend Angela ye man. You know, I wanted to, always wanted to. I'm always used to her interview with me asking me questions, so to be able to ask her

some questions. The icon that she is you know, she's our comic, like she worked with Wou Tang, like she was. She's worked so many different places, and a lot of people never knew that. So that's why I wanted to ask a couple of questions about that. But she's a secret weapon, oh yeah, but she ain't really that much

of a secret. She's just a weapon. No. But the way in different areas, the way she moves around, she's not loud and boisterous, you don't, you know, It's not like when she's in the room, everybody's like, oh, here comes Angela. She slips in and then her presence is just felt and known. And I like that about her. I think that's what, you know, even though I know I talk a lot and I am loud and all of that, but still I try to approach rooms and

spaces the same. And I can imagine that she and I have a similar thing around me, you know, not like calling everybody for tickets and you know, trying to be the one in the space, even though she gets way more invitations. Absolutely, but and she should because she's

in the culture and really connected like that. But you know, I just have never known her to be pretentious and I tried to also have that about me, that humbleness that we don't have to always show up and and and you know and suck all out the room, even though we do because we cute. But you know that's another thing. Okay, well listen dope interview, you know, and that gives me a little because it's not really much of a leeway because it's completely different, you know, topics.

But my um, I don't get it today. So I know everybody's been watching this, this something Jeffrey Dahmer thing, and you know, there's been a lot of different views. I mean, I started watching I haven't finished watching it because you know, I don't really have enough time to just be sitting around watching doma. So there was this article. I can't find it right now, but I will hopefully they'll show it. And it was saying how fans of Jeffrey Dahmo went to his father's house and they were

throwing panties at the father's house. But how did you become a fan of Jeffrey Dahmer. That's but that was the whole thing. That was the whole premise, like the whole premise to me, because I'm still looking for because I don't want people to just think I'll be just making stuff up. But I could not believe. And I said, fans, like, what does that look like? No, it said Jeffrey Dahma. Fans allegedly showed up at his dad's home and through

panties onto his driveway. When did we get to the point where we are fans of a serial killer who cut in eight people? Like we celebrate that this is the person that we that we follow, and and it's it's very telling about the times that we are, you know, Like we were talked about idols, you know, people idol worship, you know, and it don't matter what you do, people find some level of genius or positivity in the most

dumbest in negative ship. And I just I I can't wrap my mind around it, you know, don't matter how hard I tried. You know how people idolize and they have respect for people and things that don't even deserve respect. And it's it's such a and and it's not and you when you say these things, they say you're hating. Oh, you're just mad, and it's not it's not really not

just mad. I'm really confused. You know, I've never been one for me, for you, for me to follow you, for me to look up to you, for me to

have respect for you. There are criterias, right, There are certain criterias that you have to meet and and and and none of them about the money that you have, in the fame you have, those are those are not criterias that puts you in an elite space in my mind and my heart for me to think that you, you know, that you deserve some level of you know, hierarchy or you know, praise, and and we're in a time with those the main things you actually anything. You know,

people say you're I don't deal with morals. You know that's they don't have nothing to do. That's too much, you know, well, you can't really judge if you come from a moral standpoint. Is everybody is floored, you know what. Everybody is floored, but some people are intentional about trying not to be floored. Morally. We all make mistakes, we

all do things, and we all can be judged. But when you are intentionally doing things that are morally wrong on a consistent basis, when you're intentionally playing on the emotions, when you're intentionally doing these things, you know, there should be a consequence for that, Like I think, I don't. I think the word I said this to you before. I think using the word moral is very, very sticky because none of us live morally pure. We all fall short of the glory of God, every single one of us.

And I think when you use the word moral, people are triggered because they know that that is a two that's too high of a standard for man to define people's moral standings. That's God's job. I think though, that what we can talk about is a level of righteousness and also call things that we see happening that's dangerous to our people, ourselves, our community, or whatever it is. Because righteousness is a moral, it's it's very to me

when I hear morals, morals it is too. It is defining a lot more than just a person doing something wrong today or acting out or saying something wrong. It's like, you know, I'm not gonna say and say that my parents they didn't do everything right with me as they raised me right. There was things that that didn't go right, and there's things that my father didn't do well in his marriage to my mother early on. But I don't

think that takes away from his morals. I think it means that he did some wrong ship and I'm we need to say mistakes. I would say he did some he made some choices that rapport well. I think when we start talking about morals, it goes to a place that none of us could actually stand up to, none of us, because if you peel back the layers and the onions of all of our lives, from what we've done to what we do to what we will do. But then I think that's what it is, right. I

think it's your own moral compass. Right. So if because the thing is this, it's like it's like you saying it's like a person saying, yo, we both we both had sex with somebody else, but you had sex with a fourteen yeod and I had six year old, right, And people said, well, it doesn't matter, we both have. But that's what I'm trying to explain to you, because the reality is in your mind there's no comparison. No, no, it's not it's no, no, no. I think that is.

I think the only way you can make that this is my The example that I would have used to describe what you're saying is to say that you know I cheated once, you cheated five times, and I could see him say, well, once is okay, but five times was too much. Or I cheated for two years because one night you can't help. Let me just finish. But sleeping with a child as a grown man, it's a whole different thing that is predatory. You're not because olds

not even the same. But but you're not listening. That's what my whole thing is. You're seeing exactly what I'm trying to say. Right, I'm saying when I'm talking about my moral compass, right, I'm not perfect. Right, And it's certain ships that I've done that the average person. I think the average person has done the ship that I've done right. But there's certain ship that people who are innately or intentionally trying to be evil intentionally don't have

good natures. They do differently. Right. The ship that we do, that that most of us make, falls short upon. Everybody's not gonna tell the truth for all the time. Some people might have infidelity, certain ships like that. These are age old things that of the culture has dealt with in one way, of the world, not just the coach

of the world. Of the world has deal with. So this is these are relatable things that we can all look at a sent But okay, I mean, I don't I get your point that a lot of people have experienced the same issues and some of the things that you're talking about are things that's really detrimental. And that's fine, I get it. I'm still saying, huh, and that's exactly what I'm saying. So the things that I'm trying to understand, yeah,

I understand what you're saying. I'm just only trying to be cautious myself of you know, I just think morality is a very high call. It's a very high call.

So that's all I'm saying. And so therefore, when you know the art of communication, and we've learned this, we have this same discussion amongst ourselves about our business deals, all the things that we do together, where we have to sometimes check the level of our communication levels so that we understand when you're talking to another person, it's not out about you, but it's about what you're trying

to communicate to them and how they receive information. So I already know over time, like I know that when I'm talking to Angelo um or you know, when I'm when I'm talking to you, especially you. I can't necessary, I can't approach the conversation accusatory. I have to approach the conversation by being like, hey, I want us to examine this situation and figure out what do we do to get better. Now. I'm not good at that all

the time. Sometimes I do come to the conversation like you did this, and you did it, and that's and that and that automat I can see the wall come up, right. So when you're trying to communicate with people as my son, and you start talking about morals, it it impacts the people you're communicating with a certain way because they That's where it seems like you think you're sitting on this high hord. No, but it's not even that. Is that we all have that our own moral compass and and

that's each individual should have. That you should have for you. What it is, I would say standard, That's what I'm saying, is the same thing. It's you you able to to weigh and figure out what is for you, like because you can't say, yo, yo, you need to hang out with me because you went to jail before, and I went to jail before. Now we went to jail for different things, and the ship that you went to jail for,

I would never do so. Just because we shared the same space both or convicted feelings, doesn't mean that we are on the same that we are on the same level. I mean to me, you might you might think it's okay ship, that you think it's okay. It's not okay for me and I have that. I just think words matter, That's all I'm saying. So anyway, it is what it is.

The point is that Jeffrey Dahm ain't no goddamn person, but nobody will be making a fan killing people, praying on people, drugging people, raping people, and doing all kinds of crazy ship. And if you if that's if you're a fan of his, you need some help. You should probably talk. It is really crazy for you to follow Jeffrey down, like the do Kenny's Like, so what do you want him to do? Eat you alive? Like what is the goal they might have doing here? Sexy? Let

me tell you something. You will be surprised about the things that turn people on. Because even in porn, like in the in the porn world, which we should do a show one poorn, but even because you know I was gonna know we should because I heard I didn't get to ask Angela about a conversation that she was

having with Spice Girl on lip Service. I think it was spice Girl, yeah, where she said that, Um, she doesn't she she thinks that if you masturbate right, that it would be it's like an evil demon or something sexy demon exact actual. But you know, people some people that's the same scenario spills over into other areas, like you know, watching porn and all of that. So I just think that it's a it's a conversation because a lot of people are a lot of people seem to

be interested, and let's just put it that way. But the reason why I brought that up is because even within the porn industry, not because I know for sure, it's just you know, just I read about it, there happens to be different types of different um genres in the industry exactly. So there's different fetishes. So maybe somebody has rolled playing murder, kidnapping, um, all kinds of crazy freak ship that people are into, and they might have been turned on when they watched Domma eating but ship.

He was doing it and he was turned on by it, so it must be another nut that's out here that likes that ship too. Yeah for nothing, definitely enough. And with that said, we are gonna come to the end of this show. Shout out to Angela for the a dope interview. Make sure that you're tuned in for Way Up with Ye It's gonna be an amazing show. She said, Oh Angela, Okay, Way Up with Angela. She's you know, so I look forward to that. Um, thank you all for making us the number one show in the world.

Street Politicians number one show. You know, we are very grateful. Our not but on a real our fan basis growing is because of y'all. We resonate more. You're giving us ideas. Continue to send us ideas to our Instagram Street Politicians pod. Let us know what you like but you don't like, give us, you know, ideas for what show do you want to hear about? Who you want us to interview? And we're gonna try to make it happen. Man, So

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