The shed itself at a cash price was just over $13,000 . I think it was $13,000 and I think that's a great value bang for the buck .
I know you can build them from the ground up for a lot less , but for someone who doesn't want to get into framing and structural design , for $13,000 , you've got an awesome shell that you can just start customizing right away .
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All right , i am here with Blake Offkey . Blake and his wife Alex are 23-year-old newlyweds living the off-grid tiny house life in Northern Arizona , which is a desert , and they are living in their mostly self-built 400 square foot shed to house . Blake Offkey , welcome to the tiny house . Thank you , ethan , it's great to be here .
Yeah , i should have said welcome to the podcast . Welcome to the tiny house . Neither of us are in a tiny house right now . Yeah , thank you so much . Great to be here . Yeah , you're welcome . So tell me about , tell me about your house . It's 400 square foot but , like you know what are some of the features ?
What's the kind of basic layout , like paint , the picture for us .
Yeah , absolutely So . It is like you mentioned , a shed to house conversion . They go by many names but it's a shed house And it is 14 feet wide , 32 feet long And we opted to do a customization build . Through you know , there's a lot of companies that are regional and some more local . So we went with a company called Graceland Portable Buildings .
They're kind of were on the regional level . They might be nationwide now , but we chose to do a customization build So we got to pick where our windows would go , where our doors would go and some of the design aspects as far as stud spacing , wall height , how they do the roof . They get pretty detailed . So we liked that .
The overall size is just under 400 square foot . But I like to round up , it makes it nice and easy . We do have a higher wall height than like a garden shed , which you might picture , so it does have that average wall height . And , yeah , we've got two doors , a front door , back door , and I think we have eight windows .
So that's all fascinating . I've always I've really been fascinated by shed , tiny house conversions . So did Graceland kind of understand that you were going to turn it into a house , Or are they just like nope , this is a shed .
So they walked the fine line , yeah , and I appreciate them for that . They have their own reasonings and legalities . I'm sure they have to follow , but they make sure you sign something that , hey , this is a shed , but obviously they're installing residential doors and windows where you ask them to put them and making certain modifications .
They understand the idea , but I think they have to follow their own little code , if you know what I mean . Interesting .
And so are the studs . Are they two by four studs , or are they spaced 16 on center , or how do you navigate that ?
So they're pretty flexible . You can get two by six studs . If you want to have a second wall , get more insulation maybe plummet . We went with the two by four studs . They are 16 on center . And then the floor joists are 12 inch on center And off the top of my head I don't remember , i think they're two by 10s or two by 12s .
They're only spanning 14 feet , so I think they're two by 10s And they're 12 inch on center . So it's a pretty beefy floor . And then all of their buildings sit on what they call runners . So they're like , i think , four by eight , six by eight posts , four of them that run the whole building .
When it's like a pallet , if you think of it , they can pick it up with forklifts and move it around . But yeah , the framing itself is definitely up to code for a habitable structure , if not beyond code .
Nice . Yeah , i was going to ask about the delivery . How did that work ? Did it just come on the back of a flatbed truck or did they have to do any assembly when it arrived ?
Yeah , with this company . Another reason that we chose to go with them is they didn't have to do any assembly . There are some that come out and they have to build it on site and there's a lot more logistically involved . These are just one and done structures .
They come out on a flatbed truck and then they have something that they call the mule , which is like a two-wheeled forklift . It's really fun to watch him do it .
Okay , he lifts it up and put some roller dolly wheels under it and then navigates through whatever yard or whatever situation you have , which , for us at the time , was interesting , to say the least . He did a very good job at getting through the sandy desert and getting it where we want it . It's all pretty smooth .
He was in and out of here within two hours .
Nice . What did you have to do on the ground in advance to prepare ? Did you have to pour a concrete pad or put some footings down ? or what did you do underneath the house ?
Yeah , great question . I get that one a lot because the best route to go would be to just pour a solid concrete pad . That way you can ensure it's level and it's going to stand over time . Some people do more of pouring concrete piers and setting it on them .
What we opted for was having AB mix is what it's referred to , but it's like gravel and sand and rock mix . We had that trucked in . I don't remember how much , but it's a lot . It was a big pile . Then we had a tractor come out and spread it . I know we dumped over 5,000 gallons of water One day .
we had to keep trucking in water and get that mix really wet . and then he rolled it out and packed it down with a tractor . He created an earthen pad , is what they call it . Got it Then . on the earthen pad we have large solid concrete blocks , not cinder blocks . A lot of people get that confused . Those aren't as structural .
They're solid concrete blocks and we have them stacked up . The structure sits on that . It was really important for me that the structure be raised above grade so that I could get under it .
I ran all my plumbing underneath it and it was so much nicer than if I had set it straight on a concrete pad , it wouldn't have been able to get under there for anything .
Yeah , wow . You basically received a building that was framed and sheathed and roofed , and then you had to do all the finish work yourself . You know , insulation , floors , inside walls . How long did that all take ? Yeah ?
So start to finish and it's interesting . Looking back we're like , wow , that was fast . But when you're in the thick of it and sometimes you're dragging your feet and you're just , oh , it's never going to end , but it took us seven months . Yeah , like you said , i like to use the word shell .
They kind of give you a shell , yeah , and then you have to put all the guts in it . But yeah , it took us just about seven months , okay .
So Now , if you're willing to share , i'm very curious what the shed itself cost from Graceland and then what you put into it basically what you spent on the whole project .
Absolutely . Yeah . I get excited about all this stuff . I like to share it with everyone I meet . So the shed itself at a cash price was just over $13,000 . I think it was $13,000 . And I think that's a great value bang for the buck .
I know you can build them from the ground up for a lot less , but for someone who doesn't want to get into framing and structural design , for $13,000 , you've got an awesome shell that you can just start customizing right away . And then for the dirtworks and earthen stuff to prep the site we were only in at about $300 , so not bad there .
And then everything inside , without breaking it down too much , from plumbing , electrical to the interior walls . You have to frame those all the way down to the drywall and the paint . Working around $8,500 is what we have inside .
Wow . So , you're in a house that you own outright .
Yeah , yeah , i have some help as far as financing with family , but I like to yeah , i mean , it's not a big bank or anything like that Yeah , So you're in for like under $25,000 for a 400 square foot small home .
That's congratulations . Yeah , It's definitely doable ?
It's definitely doable . And we didn't use recycled materials . We talked about that a lot kind of went back and forth , but most , if not all , the materials we actually just went through Home Depot . We did try to use coupons and try to find discount things Like our doors . We got 75% off because we just kind of happened upon it .
So sometimes it works out like that Nice , and that cost is just the house and what's inside of it . We do live off grid , so solar is an additional cost and we did have to put a septic in , so that was an additional cost . Yeah , yeah , well , i want to get into . Oh , yeah , absolutely .
We can get into that , All that stuff . So yeah , so the land you kind of were mentioning . So did you buy a piece of land or are you ? Yeah , Yeah , Yeah .
So we bought a two and a half acre parcel here in Northwest Arizona and it's a remote location for some , too much of a remote location . Sometimes our family they're like , oh , you want us to come out there really . But it's about a 35 to 40 minute drive to the nearest town .
We do have a small fuel station here where you can get some of the necessities , and that's where we haul our water from . Is the fuel station . They have a large well that you haul water . So kind of leapfrog to that topic . But we do haul water here .
We don't live on a well And we're up in the mountains to the point where the climate's a little bit better , but we're not so high up that it's not like a high altitude mountain situation . I don't know if you could see a little bit there for those who are viewing in . We do have mountains all around us , which is nice , but it does get hot .
We do get up into the 115 , 120 temps for a short bit of time .
Oh , wow , okay , Yes .
Yeah , it does .
And so in your house do you do have AC of some kind to keep yourself cool ?
Yes , yep , and it's a big one , so it is a little bit loud . That's another reason I'm recording in the car today . But yeah , we mentioned it's a 400 square foot home and we're on , i think , a 10,000 BTU A window unit at the time being , but it's really efficient .
It's one of the newer ones , so it only pulls 800 watts , which , when you live off grid , it's all about the watts .
Yeah , yeah .
It's really nice , but we are looking at getting a mini-split just because they're a little bit more efficient and they look better than having a window unit .
And much quieter too , because you can press it and all that stuff is outside .
Yeah , i'm excited about that . That's going to be nice , but it does a great job . 69 in there when it's going to be 100 outside today , so it does good . Wow , and that's a saving situation for tonight .
Well , so you seem like you're in an ideal location for being off-grid using solar . You know Arizona , of course , known for its sunny weather . Tell me about your solar system design and how you approach that .
Okay , yeah , so I actually lived off-grid one other time before this Solo . It was before I had met my wife , so I lived in a beat-up old camper from the 90s . Way out made this place seem like it was in town .
I was like an hour and a half from civilization And that's where I kind of stumbled upon solar and I deep dived into it And I lived for eight or nine months , me and my dog , off of six little solar panels And it was a bit of a nightmare .
I would never undo it if I could because it was a great experience , but I would never do it again And I'd never let anyone I know do it again . But it was a good learning experience and it helped me in many ways to do things over and do them the right way this time . So we do have a decent sized solar system .
I am looking to expand it in the future . If you're a solar hobbyist , i feel like you're always looking to add more and grow it . But we currently have 27 solar panels . They're on our roof and they're all 250 watt solar panels , so it's what you'd call in the industry a five kilowatt array , so 5,000 watts .
And then we have lithium , iron , phosphate or life-po batteries And we have just under 16 kilowatts or 16,000 watts of battery . And the inverter is an MPP . That's a brand you can get out of Utah from Ian with watts 247 . Shout out to them , they're great .
But it's a 6.5 kilowatt inverter , so we have 6,500 watts of usable power at any given time And that's kind of the gist of it .
So , if you're looking to expand , are you wanting to expand your solar panels , your batteries , your inverter , all of the above ? Where do you want to expand next ?
Eventually all of the above . We actually recently just expanded the panels . We had a pretty rudimentary setup during the construction period Because we've lived on the land longer than we've had the shed , So we were in a camper and the panels were laying in the dirt And it was just terrible .
So we ended up building a lean-to onto the house itself and put panels up there . So that's great . Now we have more panels and we love it . But I'm already thinking ahead . I'm like , ok , now we can get even more panels . So yeah , eventually I want to add more panels And I do want to add more battery and a second inverter .
Right now we only have 120 volt , so we don't have the option to run any 240 appliances which we don't own any . We probably never will , but I am eventually wanting to look into getting an electric car , because it would be really awesome to have an electric car that you could charge for free at home and commute to work .
So if I ever did that , i would need to get 240 . So I could just get a second inverter , parallel them together and then I could have 120 , 240 split phase . I'm definitely always thinking about what I could add to it . You can kind of just keep going indefinitely . You can never have too much power , but right now we sit pretty comfortably .
Yeah , yeah , it would seem that you know . just looking through your pictures it looks like you have a gas range and probably not doing much heating , but I would imagine that the AC is your biggest electrical draw .
Oh yes , it is definitely our biggest draw , And before we were living in the shed , when we were just in a little cozy camper and we didn't have as many panels as we do now , it was rough in the summertime . We were overextending ourselves for sure .
So now that we're in a , the key thing is being in an insulated dwelling and having it sufficiently insulated and then having enough panels to compensate for it .
So I was curious about your kit . You know I haven't done solar myself and you know I frequently see you know basically all over the place on Amazon , alibaba Express , like Harbor Freight , anywhere like you can buy like a kit .
you know , and I just actually Googled it while you were talking like five kilowatt solar kit and there's companies that will sell you the panels , the inverter , the wiring , everything . Did you go that route or did you piece it together yourself And I'm curious why ?
either way , Yeah , so I did all of it DIY . The kits are convenient , but there's a high price tag for that convenience . And one thing I found unfortunately , just due to the nature of business , is that they kind of over inflate some of the details . They make it seem like it's everything you need , but it's really not So .
I found that people who do go that route will unfortunately pay a premium price and then still not have as good of what they could have had had to piece it together themselves . Okay , so it's . it all depends on the level of commitment or knowledge you're willing to learn to do something .
I think with all things , the more you can do yourself , the more money you'll save for sure especially in solar .
Yeah , that seems like that is the case .
Yeah , that's why it's best to just get on YouTube and hop on your favorite podcast , listen to Ethan here and just learn as much as you can , and you'll save a lot of money .
Yeah , is there a particular YouTube channel or person that you followed who helped you on the solar front ?
Absolutely , will Prouse , out of Las Vegas , okay , i think it's . if you just search Will Prouse YouTube , he'll pop up . He's a big guy on there . He explains it down to the basics of what a volt is , what a watt is , what an amp is , all the way up to . This is how you install a giant system . He'll get you covered from step A through Z .
That's awesome . Is there anything that you wish you had done differently in your solar build ?
I wish I had done it right the first time . Not that I necessarily did it wrong , but , like I mentioned , in the construction phase I was like , well , let's just take what we got and lay it out and literally on the ground and just get going . But that ended up not working in our favor in the long run .
We have wild well , not wild , but we have free range cattle that roam through the area .
Okay .
So we're laying the panels out on the ground without having a fence . Not a great idea . It didn't work out so good , but we look back and laugh and it's all good now . Definitely plan ahead and if you're going to sit down and do it , do it right the first time .
Okay , yeah , that's good . And so when you were building I'm hearing you say that you're like 40 minutes to the nearest store and your off grid Did you have like a gas generator for the build , or were you using solar for your build too ?
Yeah , that kind of plays into why I rushed it a little bit . We did have a generator for a very short amount of time . We didn't use it very much , didn't have to . So yeah , a lot of the build was on solar . A lot of the power tools , most , if not all of it , was on solar .
So it was kind of me jumping the gun and not wanting to use the generator because I'm like , well , we have all this solar , let's use it . So we threw it together and it worked . Everything got us through and we didn't have to spend a lot of gasoline .
Nice . Yeah , that's awesome , and I suppose you have the generator now in case you ever need it .
Yeah , it's always good to have for backup And the way everything is set up . I can plug in , basically plug in my house and everything will be on the generator .
Cool . So you mentioned briefly having to put in septic and then also kind of in my notes I have that you are doing gray water recycling . So tell me about that because I know that you know also Arizona also not known for a lot of rainfall , so I'm sure you know any water that you can hold on to it's worth it . How are you doing that ?
Yeah , absolutely So . As far as the septic , we originally , when we started all this planning , which was over two years ago now , i want to say I mean we started it .
We were , we owned a house and we were living in it And we just started thinking about how we can change what we're doing , how we can be more environmentally conscious and friendly And we can also benefit us by saving money . And you know , all these different factors play into why you're doing what you're doing and how you're going to do it .
So we really wanted to not have a septic system . Yeah , we wanted to have a composting toilet and we wanted to reuse our gray water . That was a big thing for us , yeah , and unfortunately , sad to say , it didn't all work out that way .
We went back and forth with our county on the composting toilet aspect And , although it is perfectly legal and there's plenty of examples they do have the right to interpret the law . Each county in Arizona can interpret the same Arizona law and it's up to them how it's interpreted . So , unfortunately , we didn't want to fight the great fight We were .
We gave in after a few months and we just said , okay , we'll get the septic . And even at that point I was being stubborn and I said well , i'll install it myself , which they do allow through some red tape , and you save many thousands of dollars . But I also lost that battle when I realized what all it was going to entail .
It's a big project to take on , and hats off to anyone who's done it . So we did hire it out . That's pretty much the only thing we hired out . So we had a contractor come in start to finish and he installed it . It was $7,500 , which I'm told is a good deal , but it hurt the wallet for sure .
Yeah , definitely I think they're . I mean , i would imagine that it's like where you are . It's a pretty simple dig .
Yeah , they do run into something called Kaleichi , which is a really tough , hard sediment , which is one of the factors to why I chose not to do it myself . Once you hit that , it's like rock and you have to have equipment to bust it up , okay . But outside of that it is fairly simple .
We did watch them do it , and then you kind of go , oh , i could have done that .
Right , i mean , do you ? you basically have to rent an excavator ? Yes , yeah .
Yeah , and then it's part the gray water that you mentioned .
Yeah right .
One of the big contributing factors to that I didn't know a lot about it but Art Ludwig . He writes a book creating an oasis with gray water , And I'm not a book person I've never been . When I can't sit down and read , I can listen . But that book , once I got my hands on it , I couldn't put it down .
Nice , And I ended up getting his second , revised six version and another book that he has . So I'm a big fan of his writing and great water recycling And we're very fortunate in Arizona . I'm not sure about other states . I know more and more are kind of working on it , but Arizona has always been really an advocate for water recycling .
Yeah , they do have a law all across Arizona about what you can do with your water and they're pretty lenient on it , so you can do just about anything with your gray water and with rainwater , nice , yeah .
And so what are you doing with it ?
So the the septic system we had to get because of code and permitting , yeah , so the only thing hooked up to it is our toilet . That's it , just one toilet and it's got a vent pipe . Everything else is recycled or reused And the way that it's being done is a really simple system .
I get what it's called in the book right now but it's like a branched system . Okay , but each outlet , like a sink or a shower , only has one path .
So the shower goes to tree A and then the bathroom sink will go to a tree B and C , and so there's many direct paths but they're not all integrated into one system , so each water outlet is its own system . We are talking about having the kitchen sink , because it's a dual sink . It has the left side and right side .
We're talking me and my wife are trying to decide whether to have one side be gray water , to like a bush , and then the second side be hooked into the septic because it is nice . She does a lot of cooking and baking and greases and oils and stuff .
It would be nice to dispose of them into the septic because it does get kind of gummy and stuff when you just put it out into like a basin for a tree , so that's something we're thinking about doing .
Yeah , Now is there any like option to maybe like flush your toilet with gray water ?
There is . There is a lot on that . They even we found a really cool toilet that they make in another country , i think in Germany , and the back of the toilet bowl is a sink .
So you wash your hands kind of awkwardly standing over your toilet to wash your hands , and then the water that you wash your hands with filled the back of the toilet which then you could flush with . So there's a neat option that we thought about a little bit to niche for us , but it's very cool that the option's out there .
And then other people do kind of plumb their sink for their bathroom into their toilet And there's a little bit more logistically involved . You have to kind of pump or pressurize the water upward And , depending on what you use the sink for , little globlets of toothpaste and stuff can kind of cause problems .
So there is a lot out there to research and to learn about . But for us we did just choose to have it just go outside and benefit a plant . But when you do all that you have to be sure that you're using certain soaps .
So my wife , she makes her own soaps , which is really cool and that helps a lot Because you can choose what you're putting in and what you're not putting in . But if you're going to buy from the store , there's a lot of pH neutral soaps for the soil level And they don't have harsh detergents .
Many of them are fully natural And they'll even say that they can be biodegradable . But what's even better is to go a step further and find bioactive soaps Because , rather than be neutral , they're going to benefit your soil Because , ultimately , if you're going to reuse the water , it's not just as simple as well get it out of the house , but you want whatever .
It's going to benefit the plant , which will , in turn , benefit you and benefit your environment . So there's a lot of deep diving research involved in all that . Yes , it's a lot of fun if you enjoy it .
Seems like it , seems like it And it seems like there's a lot of possibility in that department , and absolutely . So you mentioned hauling water . I was curious what is that process like ? Kind of like , walk me through what you have to do .
Yeah for sure . So it sounds a lot scarier than it is , but it's really simple . So when we first started we just had a trailer with a 525 gallon water tank on it , which doesn't sound like a lot , but it is quite a bit of water Yes , a lot . And we would just tow it , which I think it's only five miles each way , so it's a 10-mile round trip .
It's not very far for us , and to fill that was $1.25 . And it's from a local aquifer . It's very fresh , you can drink it , it's all tested regularly , so it's good water . And so then we hook up the trailer , go fill it for $1.25 , bring it back . And then we were pretty primitive .
When we first got started out here We just had a garden hose that we connected it to , and then the garden hose went to our camper that we were living in And that has its pump to pressurize everything . But now things have kind of evolved . So instead of a 525 , we actually have a 2,500 . Great big , it's about nine feet tall cylindrical water storage tank .
And so we were still hauling with the smaller tank . It filled a large one . It was like five or six trips , but we would fill it And then from there instead of a garden hose . We're upgraded now So we have actual plumbing underground .
All the plumbing is pecs And we have a one-horsepower water pump that pressurizes all the lines to all of our faucets and showers and everything . So once you're inside the house it's like everything's normal , you have just like you would in the city . But to fill the 2,500 gallon tank , if we were hauling ourselves with the five or six trips , it's like $6 .
But we did just for convenience . Convenience always has its cost . For $100 , there's a local individual in the community who has a large truck with a big 2,500 gallon water tank And she goes and fills it and just pumps it all in one go . So we do that every three months And it's $100 . So for $33 a month .
It's more money , but it's very convenient that I don't have to haul anymore Myself . It's still trucked in . Yeah , it's a nice convenience to have .
Very nice , very nice . Yeah , and I guess again , do you ever have freezing temperatures where you are ?
We do , although it's pretty rare . I come from Minnesota so I'm used to the frost line being way down there . So I did all of my plumbing fairly deep , compared to what .
I've talked to some neighbors that they're like oh , my main line's about three inches under the soil And I was like , oh , I went down two feet just to be safe , So a little bit of overkill there . But yeah , for our pipes we do have them insulated , wrapped when they're exposed , and then the ones underground are fairly deep .
Ok , yeah , yeah , Not that it's needed , but it's nice to have the peace of mind .
So what brought you from Minnesota to Northwestern Arizona ?
Well , that is actually where my wife is from . She was born and raised here , and after we got married we decided well , i decided , oh , let's take the wife back home and meet the family . So I took her back to where I was from and we bought a little house and started settling down And we enjoyed it .
But when winter rolled around , it's not as fun as an adult as it is when you're a kid . You remember what winter was like and you think it's fun , but it's tough to work in . And so we ultimately started considering our options and that's where we decided to go off grid and to be more self-sufficient , self-reliant and to build something of our own .
So that's where we started the whole planning phase . And on that note , actually , i have an anecdote I like to tell .
What we did is we had about an 860 square foot house , two-story because they have basements there , so finished basement , and we were realizing we weren't using most of this house me , her and the dog And there were so many rooms full of things , but we weren't using the things , we weren't using the rooms .
So we decided to challenge ourselves that we would start taking everything out of a room , selling it , getting rid of it , donating it and then closing off that room and not using it , and , one by one , we were shutting down parts of the house until we literally lived in our spare bedroom .
We utilized the kitchen and bathroom , but we lived in one bedroom , which is smaller than our current bedroom , and I think that's really what opened our eyes and proved to ourselves like we can do this , because when we move into the tiny house , it's going to be a mansion compared to what we're doing And was it .
That's definitely a challenge that I would say try it if you're considering going tiny , and you can surprise yourself . It's free room to see it .
Definitely Yeah , and I definitely recommend that people do that kind of thing as well when they're living in a bigger house and trying to figure out whether they can do it .
Yeah , it's a fun exercise .
So do you and your wife have any plans to expand the house , or is this like ? are you thinking that you'll be here forever or until you need something different ?
Yeah , it's a great question . So we do see this as our forever home . My wife , alex , designed pretty much everything about it , from like pen and paper on up . She was the big designer , and I mentioned earlier that we built like a roof , a lean to addition to the house to put solar panels on . But when we built it we were kind of thinking ahead .
So we built it to be strong enough that we can frame it in and it'll be an actual livable addition . Okay , that would double the house . We would be up to 800 square feet . At that point . I don't know if I can call it a tiny house , but that is the goal We are going to probably not this year , but next year start working on that .
And then we would have a guest bedroom or maybe an office and then a larger dining room , because that's kind of something that we didn't , we didn't build , we didn't plan on and we don't necessarily need it , but when we have family over it would be nice to have a large dining room table , sure . Sure . Then the works .
Awesome . Well , blake off key , thank you so much for being a guest on the show today . It was really great to meet you and I just love what you're doing there .
Thank you so much , ethan . It was great to be here , coming from a long time viewer to now being on the show . It's like a dream come true , awesome .
Awesome . Well , i love you know . On that note , i do love interviewing listeners who have done the tiny house thing , so you know , if you're out there , if you're like Blake and you were like Hey , i listened to your show and I built a tiny house , get in touch with me , ask at the tinyhousenet , and I'd love to interview you too . Absolutely .
But , Blake , thank you so much , thank you .
Thanks for having me .
I had a great time . Thank you so much to Blake off key for being a guest on the show today . You can find the show notes , including a complete transcript and some videos from Blake's YouTube channel . Blake shared a tour of his whole solar setup and you can find that in the show notes at the tinyhousenet slash 266 . Again , that's the tinyhousenet slash 266 .
Also , check out our sponsor this week Atomic Tiny Homes at atomictinyhomescom , slash thlp . They are building some incredible homes . They offer traditional financing and they can deliver a tiny home to you really quickly . I'm really excited about working with them , so make sure to check them out as well . Well , that is all for this week .
I'm your host , ethan Waldman , and I'll be back next week with another episode of the tinyhouse lifestyle podcast .
