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From Shed to Off-Grid Tiny House: Customization and Challenges

Jun 09, 202337 minEp. 266
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Blake and his wife, Alex are 23 year old newlyweds living off the grid, tiny house life in Northern Arizona. Their 400 square foot shed conversion is a testament to their creativity and resourcefulness. In this episode, Blake shares the story behind their unique home from customization details to navigating the fine line between shed and residential structure. Get ready to be inspired by their journey into tiny house living and learn all about what it takes to convert a shed to a tiny house on this episode with Blake Oelfke.

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In This Episode:

  • Customization Details and Challenges of Converting a Shed to a Tiny House
  • Foundations for Tiny Houses: Pouring a Solid Concrete Pad versus Concrete Piers
  • Blake Offkey's Off-Grid Life Journey: Moving to Northern Arizona and Planning to Build Something of Their Own
  • Living Minimally - From Closing Off Rooms to Living in a Tiny House
  • Installing a Septic System due to County Regulations
  • Unique Toilet Options and Water Reuse Considerations
  • Using Greywater and Reusing Water for Plants Outside
  • Renewable Energy Setup and Its Expansion Plans: Solar Panels, Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries, and Inverters
  • Off-Grid Water System: Water Storage Tank, Plumbing, and Water Pump
  • Convenience of Paying to Have Water Brought in vs. Hauling it Themselves

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Transcript

Blake Oelfke

The shed itself at a cash price was just over $13,000 . I think it was $13,000 and I think that's a great value bang for the buck .

I know you can build them from the ground up for a lot less , but for someone who doesn't want to get into framing and structural design , for $13,000 , you've got an awesome shell that you can just start customizing right away .

Ethan Waldman

Welcome to the Tiny House Lifestyle podcast , the show where you learn how to plan , build and live the tiny lifestyle . I'm your host , ethan Waldman , and this is episode 266 with our guest Blake Offkey . Blake and his wife Alex are 23 year old newlyweds living off the grid Tiny House Life in Northern Arizona .

Their 400 square foot shed conversion is a testament to their creativity and resourcefulness . In this episode , blake shares the story behind their unique home , from customization details to navigating the fine line between shed and residential structure .

Get ready to be inspired by their journey into Tiny House Living and learn all about what it takes to convert a shed to a tiny house on this episode with Blake Offkey . Are you looking for a fully customizable tiny home that's stylish , comfortable and extremely well built ? Look no further than the Via Tiny Homes by Atomic Homes .

With over two decades of experience constructing sets for live events for top brands like the Super Bowl and WWE , atomic is bringing their technical expertise to the tiny home market . The homes themselves are designed by Live Connected a team of architects and designers , and these homes are fully customizable and come in three finish levels standard , modern or farmhouse .

Add a bonus loft space , built-in storage , washer , dryer units or even a fireplace . The Via Park Model RV is engineered to ANSI 119.5 standards and built with truly innovative techniques for increased stability , quality and comfort .

If lack of financing has kept you out of a tiny home in the past , atomic Homes has you covered with conventional financing options available . Visit AtomicTinyHomescom slash THLP to customize your design . Today , again , that's AtomicTinyHomescom slash THLP . Thank you so much to Atomic Homes for sponsoring our show . That website again , is AtomicTinyHomescom slash THLP .

All right , i am here with Blake Offkey . Blake and his wife Alex are 23-year-old newlyweds living the off-grid tiny house life in Northern Arizona , which is a desert , and they are living in their mostly self-built 400 square foot shed to house . Blake Offkey , welcome to the tiny house . Thank you , ethan , it's great to be here .

Yeah , i should have said welcome to the podcast . Welcome to the tiny house . Neither of us are in a tiny house right now . Yeah , thank you so much . Great to be here . Yeah , you're welcome . So tell me about , tell me about your house . It's 400 square foot but , like you know what are some of the features ?

What's the kind of basic layout , like paint , the picture for us .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , absolutely So . It is like you mentioned , a shed to house conversion . They go by many names but it's a shed house And it is 14 feet wide , 32 feet long And we opted to do a customization build . Through you know , there's a lot of companies that are regional and some more local . So we went with a company called Graceland Portable Buildings .

They're kind of were on the regional level . They might be nationwide now , but we chose to do a customization build So we got to pick where our windows would go , where our doors would go and some of the design aspects as far as stud spacing , wall height , how they do the roof . They get pretty detailed . So we liked that .

The overall size is just under 400 square foot . But I like to round up , it makes it nice and easy . We do have a higher wall height than like a garden shed , which you might picture , so it does have that average wall height . And , yeah , we've got two doors , a front door , back door , and I think we have eight windows .

Ethan Waldman

So that's all fascinating . I've always I've really been fascinated by shed , tiny house conversions . So did Graceland kind of understand that you were going to turn it into a house , Or are they just like nope , this is a shed .

Blake Oelfke

So they walked the fine line , yeah , and I appreciate them for that . They have their own reasonings and legalities . I'm sure they have to follow , but they make sure you sign something that , hey , this is a shed , but obviously they're installing residential doors and windows where you ask them to put them and making certain modifications .

They understand the idea , but I think they have to follow their own little code , if you know what I mean . Interesting .

Ethan Waldman

And so are the studs . Are they two by four studs , or are they spaced 16 on center , or how do you navigate that ?

Blake Oelfke

So they're pretty flexible . You can get two by six studs . If you want to have a second wall , get more insulation maybe plummet . We went with the two by four studs . They are 16 on center . And then the floor joists are 12 inch on center And off the top of my head I don't remember , i think they're two by 10s or two by 12s .

They're only spanning 14 feet , so I think they're two by 10s And they're 12 inch on center . So it's a pretty beefy floor . And then all of their buildings sit on what they call runners . So they're like , i think , four by eight , six by eight posts , four of them that run the whole building .

When it's like a pallet , if you think of it , they can pick it up with forklifts and move it around . But yeah , the framing itself is definitely up to code for a habitable structure , if not beyond code .

Ethan Waldman

Nice . Yeah , i was going to ask about the delivery . How did that work ? Did it just come on the back of a flatbed truck or did they have to do any assembly when it arrived ?

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , with this company . Another reason that we chose to go with them is they didn't have to do any assembly . There are some that come out and they have to build it on site and there's a lot more logistically involved . These are just one and done structures .

They come out on a flatbed truck and then they have something that they call the mule , which is like a two-wheeled forklift . It's really fun to watch him do it .

Okay , he lifts it up and put some roller dolly wheels under it and then navigates through whatever yard or whatever situation you have , which , for us at the time , was interesting , to say the least . He did a very good job at getting through the sandy desert and getting it where we want it . It's all pretty smooth .

He was in and out of here within two hours .

Ethan Waldman

Nice . What did you have to do on the ground in advance to prepare ? Did you have to pour a concrete pad or put some footings down ? or what did you do underneath the house ?

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , great question . I get that one a lot because the best route to go would be to just pour a solid concrete pad . That way you can ensure it's level and it's going to stand over time . Some people do more of pouring concrete piers and setting it on them .

What we opted for was having AB mix is what it's referred to , but it's like gravel and sand and rock mix . We had that trucked in . I don't remember how much , but it's a lot . It was a big pile . Then we had a tractor come out and spread it . I know we dumped over 5,000 gallons of water One day .

we had to keep trucking in water and get that mix really wet . and then he rolled it out and packed it down with a tractor . He created an earthen pad , is what they call it . Got it Then . on the earthen pad we have large solid concrete blocks , not cinder blocks . A lot of people get that confused . Those aren't as structural .

They're solid concrete blocks and we have them stacked up . The structure sits on that . It was really important for me that the structure be raised above grade so that I could get under it .

I ran all my plumbing underneath it and it was so much nicer than if I had set it straight on a concrete pad , it wouldn't have been able to get under there for anything .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , wow . You basically received a building that was framed and sheathed and roofed , and then you had to do all the finish work yourself . You know , insulation , floors , inside walls . How long did that all take ? Yeah ?

Blake Oelfke

So start to finish and it's interesting . Looking back we're like , wow , that was fast . But when you're in the thick of it and sometimes you're dragging your feet and you're just , oh , it's never going to end , but it took us seven months . Yeah , like you said , i like to use the word shell .

They kind of give you a shell , yeah , and then you have to put all the guts in it . But yeah , it took us just about seven months , okay .

Ethan Waldman

So Now , if you're willing to share , i'm very curious what the shed itself cost from Graceland and then what you put into it basically what you spent on the whole project .

Blake Oelfke

Absolutely . Yeah . I get excited about all this stuff . I like to share it with everyone I meet . So the shed itself at a cash price was just over $13,000 . I think it was $13,000 . And I think that's a great value bang for the buck .

I know you can build them from the ground up for a lot less , but for someone who doesn't want to get into framing and structural design , for $13,000 , you've got an awesome shell that you can just start customizing right away . And then for the dirtworks and earthen stuff to prep the site we were only in at about $300 , so not bad there .

And then everything inside , without breaking it down too much , from plumbing , electrical to the interior walls . You have to frame those all the way down to the drywall and the paint . Working around $8,500 is what we have inside .

Ethan Waldman

Wow . So , you're in a house that you own outright .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , yeah , i have some help as far as financing with family , but I like to yeah , i mean , it's not a big bank or anything like that Yeah , So you're in for like under $25,000 for a 400 square foot small home .

Ethan Waldman

That's congratulations . Yeah , It's definitely doable ?

Blake Oelfke

It's definitely doable . And we didn't use recycled materials . We talked about that a lot kind of went back and forth , but most , if not all , the materials we actually just went through Home Depot . We did try to use coupons and try to find discount things Like our doors . We got 75% off because we just kind of happened upon it .

So sometimes it works out like that Nice , and that cost is just the house and what's inside of it . We do live off grid , so solar is an additional cost and we did have to put a septic in , so that was an additional cost . Yeah , yeah , well , i want to get into . Oh , yeah , absolutely .

Ethan Waldman

We can get into that , All that stuff . So yeah , so the land you kind of were mentioning . So did you buy a piece of land or are you ? Yeah , Yeah , Yeah .

Blake Oelfke

So we bought a two and a half acre parcel here in Northwest Arizona and it's a remote location for some , too much of a remote location . Sometimes our family they're like , oh , you want us to come out there really . But it's about a 35 to 40 minute drive to the nearest town .

We do have a small fuel station here where you can get some of the necessities , and that's where we haul our water from . Is the fuel station . They have a large well that you haul water . So kind of leapfrog to that topic . But we do haul water here .

We don't live on a well And we're up in the mountains to the point where the climate's a little bit better , but we're not so high up that it's not like a high altitude mountain situation . I don't know if you could see a little bit there for those who are viewing in . We do have mountains all around us , which is nice , but it does get hot .

We do get up into the 115 , 120 temps for a short bit of time .

Ethan Waldman

Oh , wow , okay , Yes .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , it does .

Ethan Waldman

And so in your house do you do have AC of some kind to keep yourself cool ?

Blake Oelfke

Yes , yep , and it's a big one , so it is a little bit loud . That's another reason I'm recording in the car today . But yeah , we mentioned it's a 400 square foot home and we're on , i think , a 10,000 BTU A window unit at the time being , but it's really efficient .

It's one of the newer ones , so it only pulls 800 watts , which , when you live off grid , it's all about the watts .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , yeah .

Blake Oelfke

It's really nice , but we are looking at getting a mini-split just because they're a little bit more efficient and they look better than having a window unit .

Ethan Waldman

And much quieter too , because you can press it and all that stuff is outside .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , i'm excited about that . That's going to be nice , but it does a great job . 69 in there when it's going to be 100 outside today , so it does good . Wow , and that's a saving situation for tonight .

Ethan Waldman

Well , so you seem like you're in an ideal location for being off-grid using solar . You know Arizona , of course , known for its sunny weather . Tell me about your solar system design and how you approach that .

Blake Oelfke

Okay , yeah , so I actually lived off-grid one other time before this Solo . It was before I had met my wife , so I lived in a beat-up old camper from the 90s . Way out made this place seem like it was in town .

I was like an hour and a half from civilization And that's where I kind of stumbled upon solar and I deep dived into it And I lived for eight or nine months , me and my dog , off of six little solar panels And it was a bit of a nightmare .

I would never undo it if I could because it was a great experience , but I would never do it again And I'd never let anyone I know do it again . But it was a good learning experience and it helped me in many ways to do things over and do them the right way this time . So we do have a decent sized solar system .

I am looking to expand it in the future . If you're a solar hobbyist , i feel like you're always looking to add more and grow it . But we currently have 27 solar panels . They're on our roof and they're all 250 watt solar panels , so it's what you'd call in the industry a five kilowatt array , so 5,000 watts .

And then we have lithium , iron , phosphate or life-po batteries And we have just under 16 kilowatts or 16,000 watts of battery . And the inverter is an MPP . That's a brand you can get out of Utah from Ian with watts 247 . Shout out to them , they're great .

But it's a 6.5 kilowatt inverter , so we have 6,500 watts of usable power at any given time And that's kind of the gist of it .

Ethan Waldman

So , if you're looking to expand , are you wanting to expand your solar panels , your batteries , your inverter , all of the above ? Where do you want to expand next ?

Blake Oelfke

Eventually all of the above . We actually recently just expanded the panels . We had a pretty rudimentary setup during the construction period Because we've lived on the land longer than we've had the shed , So we were in a camper and the panels were laying in the dirt And it was just terrible .

So we ended up building a lean-to onto the house itself and put panels up there . So that's great . Now we have more panels and we love it . But I'm already thinking ahead . I'm like , ok , now we can get even more panels . So yeah , eventually I want to add more panels And I do want to add more battery and a second inverter .

Right now we only have 120 volt , so we don't have the option to run any 240 appliances which we don't own any . We probably never will , but I am eventually wanting to look into getting an electric car , because it would be really awesome to have an electric car that you could charge for free at home and commute to work .

So if I ever did that , i would need to get 240 . So I could just get a second inverter , parallel them together and then I could have 120 , 240 split phase . I'm definitely always thinking about what I could add to it . You can kind of just keep going indefinitely . You can never have too much power , but right now we sit pretty comfortably .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , yeah , it would seem that you know . just looking through your pictures it looks like you have a gas range and probably not doing much heating , but I would imagine that the AC is your biggest electrical draw .

Blake Oelfke

Oh yes , it is definitely our biggest draw , And before we were living in the shed , when we were just in a little cozy camper and we didn't have as many panels as we do now , it was rough in the summertime . We were overextending ourselves for sure .

So now that we're in a , the key thing is being in an insulated dwelling and having it sufficiently insulated and then having enough panels to compensate for it .

Ethan Waldman

So I was curious about your kit . You know I haven't done solar myself and you know I frequently see you know basically all over the place on Amazon , alibaba Express , like Harbor Freight , anywhere like you can buy like a kit .

you know , and I just actually Googled it while you were talking like five kilowatt solar kit and there's companies that will sell you the panels , the inverter , the wiring , everything . Did you go that route or did you piece it together yourself And I'm curious why ?

Blake Oelfke

either way , Yeah , so I did all of it DIY . The kits are convenient , but there's a high price tag for that convenience . And one thing I found unfortunately , just due to the nature of business , is that they kind of over inflate some of the details . They make it seem like it's everything you need , but it's really not So .

I found that people who do go that route will unfortunately pay a premium price and then still not have as good of what they could have had had to piece it together themselves . Okay , so it's . it all depends on the level of commitment or knowledge you're willing to learn to do something .

I think with all things , the more you can do yourself , the more money you'll save for sure especially in solar .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , that seems like that is the case .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , that's why it's best to just get on YouTube and hop on your favorite podcast , listen to Ethan here and just learn as much as you can , and you'll save a lot of money .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , is there a particular YouTube channel or person that you followed who helped you on the solar front ?

Blake Oelfke

Absolutely , will Prouse , out of Las Vegas , okay , i think it's . if you just search Will Prouse YouTube , he'll pop up . He's a big guy on there . He explains it down to the basics of what a volt is , what a watt is , what an amp is , all the way up to . This is how you install a giant system . He'll get you covered from step A through Z .

Ethan Waldman

That's awesome . Is there anything that you wish you had done differently in your solar build ?

Blake Oelfke

I wish I had done it right the first time . Not that I necessarily did it wrong , but , like I mentioned , in the construction phase I was like , well , let's just take what we got and lay it out and literally on the ground and just get going . But that ended up not working in our favor in the long run .

We have wild well , not wild , but we have free range cattle that roam through the area .

Ethan Waldman

Okay .

Blake Oelfke

So we're laying the panels out on the ground without having a fence . Not a great idea . It didn't work out so good , but we look back and laugh and it's all good now . Definitely plan ahead and if you're going to sit down and do it , do it right the first time .

Ethan Waldman

Okay , yeah , that's good . And so when you were building I'm hearing you say that you're like 40 minutes to the nearest store and your off grid Did you have like a gas generator for the build , or were you using solar for your build too ?

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , that kind of plays into why I rushed it a little bit . We did have a generator for a very short amount of time . We didn't use it very much , didn't have to . So yeah , a lot of the build was on solar . A lot of the power tools , most , if not all of it , was on solar .

So it was kind of me jumping the gun and not wanting to use the generator because I'm like , well , we have all this solar , let's use it . So we threw it together and it worked . Everything got us through and we didn't have to spend a lot of gasoline .

Ethan Waldman

Nice . Yeah , that's awesome , and I suppose you have the generator now in case you ever need it .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , it's always good to have for backup And the way everything is set up . I can plug in , basically plug in my house and everything will be on the generator .

Ethan Waldman

Cool . So you mentioned briefly having to put in septic and then also kind of in my notes I have that you are doing gray water recycling . So tell me about that because I know that you know also Arizona also not known for a lot of rainfall , so I'm sure you know any water that you can hold on to it's worth it . How are you doing that ?

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , absolutely So . As far as the septic , we originally , when we started all this planning , which was over two years ago now , i want to say I mean we started it .

We were , we owned a house and we were living in it And we just started thinking about how we can change what we're doing , how we can be more environmentally conscious and friendly And we can also benefit us by saving money . And you know , all these different factors play into why you're doing what you're doing and how you're going to do it .

So we really wanted to not have a septic system . Yeah , we wanted to have a composting toilet and we wanted to reuse our gray water . That was a big thing for us , yeah , and unfortunately , sad to say , it didn't all work out that way .

We went back and forth with our county on the composting toilet aspect And , although it is perfectly legal and there's plenty of examples they do have the right to interpret the law . Each county in Arizona can interpret the same Arizona law and it's up to them how it's interpreted . So , unfortunately , we didn't want to fight the great fight We were .

We gave in after a few months and we just said , okay , we'll get the septic . And even at that point I was being stubborn and I said well , i'll install it myself , which they do allow through some red tape , and you save many thousands of dollars . But I also lost that battle when I realized what all it was going to entail .

It's a big project to take on , and hats off to anyone who's done it . So we did hire it out . That's pretty much the only thing we hired out . So we had a contractor come in start to finish and he installed it . It was $7,500 , which I'm told is a good deal , but it hurt the wallet for sure .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , definitely I think they're . I mean , i would imagine that it's like where you are . It's a pretty simple dig .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , they do run into something called Kaleichi , which is a really tough , hard sediment , which is one of the factors to why I chose not to do it myself . Once you hit that , it's like rock and you have to have equipment to bust it up , okay . But outside of that it is fairly simple .

We did watch them do it , and then you kind of go , oh , i could have done that .

Ethan Waldman

Right , i mean , do you ? you basically have to rent an excavator ? Yes , yeah .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , and then it's part the gray water that you mentioned .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah right .

Blake Oelfke

One of the big contributing factors to that I didn't know a lot about it but Art Ludwig . He writes a book creating an oasis with gray water , And I'm not a book person I've never been . When I can't sit down and read , I can listen . But that book , once I got my hands on it , I couldn't put it down .

Nice , And I ended up getting his second , revised six version and another book that he has . So I'm a big fan of his writing and great water recycling And we're very fortunate in Arizona . I'm not sure about other states . I know more and more are kind of working on it , but Arizona has always been really an advocate for water recycling .

Yeah , they do have a law all across Arizona about what you can do with your water and they're pretty lenient on it , so you can do just about anything with your gray water and with rainwater , nice , yeah .

Ethan Waldman

And so what are you doing with it ?

Blake Oelfke

So the the septic system we had to get because of code and permitting , yeah , so the only thing hooked up to it is our toilet . That's it , just one toilet and it's got a vent pipe . Everything else is recycled or reused And the way that it's being done is a really simple system .

I get what it's called in the book right now but it's like a branched system . Okay , but each outlet , like a sink or a shower , only has one path .

So the shower goes to tree A and then the bathroom sink will go to a tree B and C , and so there's many direct paths but they're not all integrated into one system , so each water outlet is its own system . We are talking about having the kitchen sink , because it's a dual sink . It has the left side and right side .

We're talking me and my wife are trying to decide whether to have one side be gray water , to like a bush , and then the second side be hooked into the septic because it is nice . She does a lot of cooking and baking and greases and oils and stuff .

It would be nice to dispose of them into the septic because it does get kind of gummy and stuff when you just put it out into like a basin for a tree , so that's something we're thinking about doing .

Ethan Waldman

Yeah , Now is there any like option to maybe like flush your toilet with gray water ?

Blake Oelfke

There is . There is a lot on that . They even we found a really cool toilet that they make in another country , i think in Germany , and the back of the toilet bowl is a sink .

So you wash your hands kind of awkwardly standing over your toilet to wash your hands , and then the water that you wash your hands with filled the back of the toilet which then you could flush with . So there's a neat option that we thought about a little bit to niche for us , but it's very cool that the option's out there .

And then other people do kind of plumb their sink for their bathroom into their toilet And there's a little bit more logistically involved . You have to kind of pump or pressurize the water upward And , depending on what you use the sink for , little globlets of toothpaste and stuff can kind of cause problems .

So there is a lot out there to research and to learn about . But for us we did just choose to have it just go outside and benefit a plant . But when you do all that you have to be sure that you're using certain soaps .

So my wife , she makes her own soaps , which is really cool and that helps a lot Because you can choose what you're putting in and what you're not putting in . But if you're going to buy from the store , there's a lot of pH neutral soaps for the soil level And they don't have harsh detergents .

Many of them are fully natural And they'll even say that they can be biodegradable . But what's even better is to go a step further and find bioactive soaps Because , rather than be neutral , they're going to benefit your soil Because , ultimately , if you're going to reuse the water , it's not just as simple as well get it out of the house , but you want whatever .

It's going to benefit the plant , which will , in turn , benefit you and benefit your environment . So there's a lot of deep diving research involved in all that . Yes , it's a lot of fun if you enjoy it .

Ethan Waldman

Seems like it , seems like it And it seems like there's a lot of possibility in that department , and absolutely . So you mentioned hauling water . I was curious what is that process like ? Kind of like , walk me through what you have to do .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah for sure . So it sounds a lot scarier than it is , but it's really simple . So when we first started we just had a trailer with a 525 gallon water tank on it , which doesn't sound like a lot , but it is quite a bit of water Yes , a lot . And we would just tow it , which I think it's only five miles each way , so it's a 10-mile round trip .

It's not very far for us , and to fill that was $1.25 . And it's from a local aquifer . It's very fresh , you can drink it , it's all tested regularly , so it's good water . And so then we hook up the trailer , go fill it for $1.25 , bring it back . And then we were pretty primitive .

When we first got started out here We just had a garden hose that we connected it to , and then the garden hose went to our camper that we were living in And that has its pump to pressurize everything . But now things have kind of evolved . So instead of a 525 , we actually have a 2,500 . Great big , it's about nine feet tall cylindrical water storage tank .

And so we were still hauling with the smaller tank . It filled a large one . It was like five or six trips , but we would fill it And then from there instead of a garden hose . We're upgraded now So we have actual plumbing underground .

All the plumbing is pecs And we have a one-horsepower water pump that pressurizes all the lines to all of our faucets and showers and everything . So once you're inside the house it's like everything's normal , you have just like you would in the city . But to fill the 2,500 gallon tank , if we were hauling ourselves with the five or six trips , it's like $6 .

But we did just for convenience . Convenience always has its cost . For $100 , there's a local individual in the community who has a large truck with a big 2,500 gallon water tank And she goes and fills it and just pumps it all in one go . So we do that every three months And it's $100 . So for $33 a month .

It's more money , but it's very convenient that I don't have to haul anymore Myself . It's still trucked in . Yeah , it's a nice convenience to have .

Ethan Waldman

Very nice , very nice . Yeah , and I guess again , do you ever have freezing temperatures where you are ?

Blake Oelfke

We do , although it's pretty rare . I come from Minnesota so I'm used to the frost line being way down there . So I did all of my plumbing fairly deep , compared to what .

I've talked to some neighbors that they're like oh , my main line's about three inches under the soil And I was like , oh , I went down two feet just to be safe , So a little bit of overkill there . But yeah , for our pipes we do have them insulated , wrapped when they're exposed , and then the ones underground are fairly deep .

Ok , yeah , yeah , Not that it's needed , but it's nice to have the peace of mind .

Ethan Waldman

So what brought you from Minnesota to Northwestern Arizona ?

Blake Oelfke

Well , that is actually where my wife is from . She was born and raised here , and after we got married we decided well , i decided , oh , let's take the wife back home and meet the family . So I took her back to where I was from and we bought a little house and started settling down And we enjoyed it .

But when winter rolled around , it's not as fun as an adult as it is when you're a kid . You remember what winter was like and you think it's fun , but it's tough to work in . And so we ultimately started considering our options and that's where we decided to go off grid and to be more self-sufficient , self-reliant and to build something of our own .

So that's where we started the whole planning phase . And on that note , actually , i have an anecdote I like to tell .

What we did is we had about an 860 square foot house , two-story because they have basements there , so finished basement , and we were realizing we weren't using most of this house me , her and the dog And there were so many rooms full of things , but we weren't using the things , we weren't using the rooms .

So we decided to challenge ourselves that we would start taking everything out of a room , selling it , getting rid of it , donating it and then closing off that room and not using it , and , one by one , we were shutting down parts of the house until we literally lived in our spare bedroom .

We utilized the kitchen and bathroom , but we lived in one bedroom , which is smaller than our current bedroom , and I think that's really what opened our eyes and proved to ourselves like we can do this , because when we move into the tiny house , it's going to be a mansion compared to what we're doing And was it .

That's definitely a challenge that I would say try it if you're considering going tiny , and you can surprise yourself . It's free room to see it .

Ethan Waldman

Definitely Yeah , and I definitely recommend that people do that kind of thing as well when they're living in a bigger house and trying to figure out whether they can do it .

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , it's a fun exercise .

Ethan Waldman

So do you and your wife have any plans to expand the house , or is this like ? are you thinking that you'll be here forever or until you need something different ?

Blake Oelfke

Yeah , it's a great question . So we do see this as our forever home . My wife , alex , designed pretty much everything about it , from like pen and paper on up . She was the big designer , and I mentioned earlier that we built like a roof , a lean to addition to the house to put solar panels on . But when we built it we were kind of thinking ahead .

So we built it to be strong enough that we can frame it in and it'll be an actual livable addition . Okay , that would double the house . We would be up to 800 square feet . At that point . I don't know if I can call it a tiny house , but that is the goal We are going to probably not this year , but next year start working on that .

And then we would have a guest bedroom or maybe an office and then a larger dining room , because that's kind of something that we didn't , we didn't build , we didn't plan on and we don't necessarily need it , but when we have family over it would be nice to have a large dining room table , sure . Sure . Then the works .

Ethan Waldman

Awesome . Well , blake off key , thank you so much for being a guest on the show today . It was really great to meet you and I just love what you're doing there .

Blake Oelfke

Thank you so much , ethan . It was great to be here , coming from a long time viewer to now being on the show . It's like a dream come true , awesome .

Ethan Waldman

Awesome . Well , i love you know . On that note , i do love interviewing listeners who have done the tiny house thing , so you know , if you're out there , if you're like Blake and you were like Hey , i listened to your show and I built a tiny house , get in touch with me , ask at the tinyhousenet , and I'd love to interview you too . Absolutely .

But , Blake , thank you so much , thank you .

Blake Oelfke

Thanks for having me .

Ethan Waldman

I had a great time . Thank you so much to Blake off key for being a guest on the show today . You can find the show notes , including a complete transcript and some videos from Blake's YouTube channel . Blake shared a tour of his whole solar setup and you can find that in the show notes at the tinyhousenet slash 266 . Again , that's the tinyhousenet slash 266 .

Also , check out our sponsor this week Atomic Tiny Homes at atomictinyhomescom , slash thlp . They are building some incredible homes . They offer traditional financing and they can deliver a tiny home to you really quickly . I'm really excited about working with them , so make sure to check them out as well . Well , that is all for this week .

I'm your host , ethan Waldman , and I'll be back next week with another episode of the tinyhouse lifestyle podcast .

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