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Till The Wheels Fall Off

TWFO Couple - Matt & Paige Robinsonwww.twfo.com

Till The Wheels Fall Off (TWFO) podcast is hosted by Matt and Paige Robinson. TWFO focuses primarily on the relationship dynamics between spouses and partners of alcoholics or addicts and ways to best navigate the difficulties of codependent, addicted, unstable, and narcissistic behavior. The program is enjoyable and informative for anyone seeking self-betterment, inspiration, perspective, or direction with themes ranging from boundaries, recovery, marriage, and parenting with tons of humor built in. With over twenty years of experience in codependency recovery, addiction recovery, mental health battles, and navigating life's hurdles, the duo offers a valuable and unique perspective that is both inspiring and relatable.

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Episodes

Paige's Perspective: Heavy Week? Here’s a Soft Landing

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Feeling like life keeps piling on? Like you’re stuck in survival mode? In this short and honest episode, Paige offers a gentle reset for your nervous system and your spirit. If you’re overwhelmed, overstimulated, or just done, this is your reminder: you’re not broken, and you’re not alone. You’re in a season—and seasons change. No fixing. No fluff. Just truth, breath, and permission to feel it all. You’re going to be okay. And we’re right here with you. Suppo...

Jun 27, 20259 min

Burned Out, Numb, and Angry: The Hidden Cost of Stress

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off , we're not giving advice from the other side of healing. We're talking to you from inside the mess. Lately, the stress has been loud. We're forgetful, irritable, snapping at people we love, crying for no reason, and second-guessing everything we've already worked so hard to overcome. We thought we had our anxiety under control. We thought we had systems. We thought we had tools. And then it all came crashing down. ...

Jun 25, 20251 hr 14 min

Audio Newsletter: Why Men Stay Silent & How to Start Talking Without Losing Yourself

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Most men don’t stay quiet because they have nothing to say, they stay quiet because they’ve been trained to believe it’s safer that way. In this episode, Matt breaks down the some of the reasons he and other men struggle to open up: fear of being judged, minimized pain, past betrayals, and the belief that emotions make you weak. He shares how to start speaking honestly, even when it feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar, and why vulnerability isn’t a loss of powe...

Jun 23, 202536 min

Paige's Perspective: Learning to Trust Again Starts with Trusting Yourself

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! What happens when you find out the truth years later—when the person you trusted most finally admits they lied? This episode is about the invisible aftermath of long-term betrayal. Paige walks through how repeated lies, not just addiction, reshape your brain, destroy self-trust, and make you question your reality. She explores the delayed grief that hits when you’re just now entering the pain they’ve already moved through, and why learning to trust yourself a...

Jun 20, 202516 min

The 4 Layers of Trust: What Rebuilding Actually Looks Like

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If you’ve heard this from a partner or found yourself asking it, this episode breaks down exactly why rebuilding trust isn’t a single moment. It’s a layered process that takes time, consistency, and real change. In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off , Matt and Paige walk you through the four essential layers of trust that had to be rebuilt after addiction nearly destroyed their relationship: Sobriety Safety - the non-negotiable foundation Functional Tru...

Jun 17, 20251 hr 3 min

Audio Newsletter: "How Do I Trust Again?"

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Trust gets asked about all the time. “How do I trust them again?” But that question is usually hiding something deeper, like “How do I stop feeling anxious?” or “How do I get back to normal?” In this audio newsletter, Matt talks about why that question might be the wrong place to start. This episode touches on the neuroscience and evolutionary basis of trust - why your brain wants to reconnect with someone who hurt you, and why that craving can override logic...

Jun 16, 202534 min

Paige's Perspective: Track Less, Trust More: Why Self-Monitoring Might Be Making You Anxious

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective , Paige gets real about something many of us are doing in the name of healing: self-monitoring everything —our sleep, food, steps, moods, routines. What starts as a tool for awareness can quickly turn into another form of anxiety and self-doubt, especially for those recovering from relational trauma. Paige shares her personal story of ditching her Apple Watch, the illusion of safety gadgets provide, and the deeper truth:...

Jun 13, 202512 min

They’re Really Good at What They Do: The Psychology of Manipulators

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Why do people stay in abusive relationships? Why don’t they just leave? In this raw and powerful episode, Matt and Paige break down the complex psychological tactics that manipulators use to keep their partners stuck—DARVO, gaslighting, love bombing, guilt-tripping, isolation, and more. Inspired by recent high-profile stories, they connect the dots between emotional abuse in the public eye and what many quietly endure behind closed doors every day. Whether yo...

Jun 11, 20251 hr 20 min

Paige's Perspective: The Truth About Self-Care: It’s Not Always Pretty

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Self-care isn’t always candles and calm. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective , Paige breaks down what real self-care actually looks like—and calls out the way many people use self-care as a cover for avoidance. From the difference between self-care and self-indulgence to the six key categories (mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, environmental, and social), you’ll learn how to tell if your self-care is helping you heal… or keeping you stuck. If you’re ...

Jun 06, 202513 min

Dr. Jake Porter -The Truth About Sex Addiction, Betrayal Trauma, and How to Rebuild Trust

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this deeply insightful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we sit down with Dr. Jake Porter, a leading expert in relational and betrayal trauma, sex addiction recovery, and emotional intimacy. Dr. Porter brings years of professional expertise and personal experience to unpack the complexities of sex and pornography addiction and their impact on relationships. Together, we explore: What sex addiction really is, how it d...

Jun 04, 20251 hr 31 min

Paige's Perspective: You Don’t Have a Communication Problem

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You’ve rewritten the message in your notes app a dozen times. You’ve softened your tone, used “I” statements, stayed calm, and begged them to meet you halfway—but nothing changes. In this episode, Paige breaks down the hard truth: most of you don’t have a communication problem. You have a respect problem. A values problem. A partner who’s not ready—or willing—to show up. We explore why so many people believe communication will fix everything, how that belief ...

May 30, 202511 min

Is It a Disease or a Cop-Out?

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off , Matt and Paige take on one of the most controversial topics in the recovery world - the disease model of addiction. Is it a disease? Yes. But is it an excuse? Absolutely not. They break down the origins of the disease model, where it helps, where it massively fails, and how it’s been weaponized to avoid accountability and silence those harmed by addiction. They explore the danger of comparing addiction to cancer, ...

May 28, 20251 hr 26 min

Paige's Perspective: How to Survive Maycember Without Losing Yourself

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! It’s May—aka Maycember —that time of year when school events, sports, recitals, end-of-year chaos, and mental overload all collide. If you're feeling stretched thin, resentful, or like you might snap over a missed sign-up genius… you're not alone. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, I’m talking about the emotional weight of this season, what you can give yourself grace on, and what should stay nonnegotiable —even when it feels like you’re drowning in to-d...

May 23, 202511 min

What Recovery Gets Wrong: The Partner's Side of the Story

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The recovery world loves to talk about healing, but what about the people most impacted by the chaos? In this brutally honest episode, Matt and Paige pull back the curtain on what treatment centers, therapists, and traditional recovery programs often miss: the spouse’s experience. Why are partners immediately labeled codependent? Why is their anger pathologized while the addict’s pain is protected? Why are they expected to forgive before they’ve even been all...

May 21, 20251 hr 10 min

Paige's Perspective: Back to the Basics. Stop Excusing the Inexcusable

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You don’t need more clarity. You need permission to trust what you already know. This episode is about cutting through the noise, the over-explaining, and the endless justifications. Paige brings it back to the basics: it’s not about the substance — it’s about the behavior. Always has been. You’ll hear the truth about how we overcomplicate addiction by focusing on trauma, diagnoses, and potential while ignoring the very real, repeated harm that’s happening in...

May 16, 202513 min

Chaos Outside, Peace Inside: Reclaiming Sanity in a Broken World

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If life feels impossibly heavy right now, you’re not alone, and you’re not crazy. In this episode, we unpack why so many people are struggling with their mental health in 2025 and why blame - whether it’s directed at politics, finances, partners, or the system - often becomes a trap that keeps us stuck. We don’t sugarcoat the chaos, but we also won’t leave you without a roadmap. From high-agency thinking to radical acceptance, spiritual grounding to physical ...

May 14, 20251 hr 10 min

Paige's Perspective: If Mother’s Day Hurts, You’re Not Alone

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Mother’s Day can feel complicated, especially when life doesn’t look the way you thought it would. Maybe you’re raising kids alone. Maybe your partner is deep in addiction. Maybe you have an unequal partner and just feel all the feels. In this episode, I talk directly to the women who feel unseen, forgotten, or unappreciated on a day that’s meant to celebrate them. We’ll walk through five gentle steps to get through Mother’s Day—without faking joy, waiting on...

May 09, 202511 min

How You Say It Matters More Than What You Say

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode isn’t about fixing your partner. It’s not about getting the outcome you’re hoping for. It’s about you - how you respond when you're frustrated, dismissed, overwhelmed, or ignored. We’re talking tone, delivery, body language, and why 93% of communication has nothing to do with the words you use. Whether you’re arguing with a partner in active addiction, managing stress at work, or snapping at your kids at the end of a long day, your energy sets th...

May 07, 20251 hr 12 min

Audio Newsletter: You Can Rest, But Don’t Quit

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this special audio edition of the newsletter, Matt shares a listener story that’s all too familiar: someone begins the work: therapy, sobriety, growth - but eventually hits a wall and stops. What do you do when your partner says things like “I’m tired of doing the work” or “What if this is the best I get?” How do you support someone without enabling them? How do you hold space without losing yourself? Matt unpacks the difference between healing fatigue and...

May 05, 202547 min

Paige's Perspective: Behavior Over Bullsh*t: Stop Blaming the Label

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective , we’re cutting through the noise and getting back to the basics — because somewhere along the way, we started overcomplicating what’s right in front of us. Addiction. Trauma. ADHD. Nervous system dysregulation. You name it — there’s a label for every behavior now, and we’ve been trained to see the story before we see the impact. But here’s the thing: Behavior tells the truth. Not the diagnosis. Not the excuse. Not the b...

May 02, 202511 min

Painful but Necessary: How Natural Consequences Spark Real Change

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this powerful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off , we dive deep into one of the most misunderstood concepts in recovery and relationships: natural consequences . We unpack the difference between allowing natural consequences versus trying to teach lessons or punish, and why intentions matter so much. We share real-life examples - from substance abuse, lying, and emotional unavailability to parenting challenges - to show how stepping back and allowing life...

Apr 30, 20251 hr 16 min

Paige's Perspective: You’re Not Overreacting: The Truth About DARVO

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week on Paige’s Perspective, we’re digging into DARVO—the manipulative pattern people use to avoid accountability by flipping the script and making you question your reality. You’ll learn what DARVO looks like, why it happens, and how to spot it in both loud and subtle forms (even the sweet, guilt-soaked kind that sounds like love but isn’t). I’ll also share what healthy accountability sounds like and give you practical tools to protect your peace, stop ...

Apr 25, 202522 min

The Truth That Changed Everything: What Finally Made Me Get Sober

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Matt sits down for an unfiltered, no-holds-barred conversation about the moment everything changed - the exact point he knew he couldn’t lie one more time, couldn’t hide one more day, and had to choose either transformation or destruction. Paige asks the raw questions our listeners always want answered: What finally made you get sober? What was rock bottom really like? Do you ever miss that life? What does recovery actually look like years later—and how the h...

Apr 23, 20251 hr 34 min

Paige's Perspective: When 'It’s Not That Bad' Is Still Too Bad

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You’ve said it. Maybe weekly. “He’s just stressed.” “He only acts like this when he’s drinking.” “That's just how they were raised.” But here’s the truth: just because you’ve gotten used to it… doesn’t mean it’s healthy. In this episode, Paige breaks down the quiet ways we minimize emotional abuse and excuse hurtful behavior—especially in relationships shaped by addiction, trauma, or chaos. You’ll learn to recognize the red flags hiding in everyday phrases, u...

Apr 18, 202514 min

How to Bounce Back: Mistakes, Shame, and Second Chances

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We all screw up, but how you respond to a mistake says way more about you than the mistake itself. In this episode, we have a raw, honest conversation about emotional regulation, accountability, and how to bounce back after you’ve messed up. Whether it’s a bad tone with your kids or a history of bigger mistakes like addiction or abuse, this episode explores how to repair, rebuild, and move forward without drowning in shame. You’ll hear the differences in how ...

Apr 16, 20251 hr 20 min

Paige's Perspective: Self-Love Isn’t Soft - Why It Scares You and How to Do It Anyway

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Do you ever feel afraid to love yourself? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. In this episode, Paige gets real about the fear, discomfort, and confusion that often comes with the concept of self-love. She unpacks why loving yourself can feel unsafe, selfish, or even threatening depending on your past, your programming, and your current relationships. From trauma bonds to people-pleasing, and from sabotaging growth to staying small to make others comfortab...

Apr 11, 202521 min

Clapping Back is Still Looking Back: Why Petty Feuds Keep You Tied to the Pain

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Revenge might feel good for a moment—but what does it really get you? In this raw and hilarious episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off , we unpack the difference between being petty and being powerful . From glitter bombs to passive-aggressive laundry comments to clapback culture on social media, they explore why pettiness is so seductive (especially after betrayal or injustice) and why it ultimately keeps you stuck in cycles of rumination, resentment, and regre...

Apr 09, 20251 hr 26 min

Paige's Perspective: Social Media Is Loud, But You Don’t Have to Be Lost in It

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, Paige gets real about the toll social media can take on our nervous systems, identity, and sense of reality. Inspired by a quote—“Normal is 7 hours of screen time a day”—she opens up about why she’s taking a step back, how social media may create low-agency behavior, and what it really means to get back to the basics. This isn’t a lecture—it’s a wake-up call for anyone feeling overstimulated, stuck in the scroll, and slowly losing themselves ...

Apr 04, 202516 min

High Agency, Part Two: Navigating the Traps That Keep You Stuck

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In Part Two of our High Agency series, Matt and Paige dive even deeper into what it really means to live a high agency life—and what gets in the way. We unpack the traps that keep people stuck: the vague trap, the midwit trap, the rumination trap, and the overwhelm trap. You’ll hear how overthinking and searching for the perfect, risk-free solution leaves people paralyzed, stuck in fantasy instead of action. We talk about defining problems clearly, trusting y...

Apr 02, 20251 hr 45 min

Paige's Perspective: Life Is a Sh*t Show—Even If, You'll Be Okay

Have an episode suggestion? Text us! “What if they relapse?” “What if I mess up?” “What if everything falls apart?” If those questions live rent-free in your mind, this episode is for you. I’ll show you how one simple shift—from “What if” to “Even if”—can change the way you cope with stress, fear, and uncertainty. You’ll hear mindset exercises, honest stories, and practical ways to handle life when it doesn’t go according to plan. Because it rarely does. Support the show Find video clips and ful...

Mar 28, 202514 min
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