This is a special episode. Yes, it is. Hi everyone. Hi everyone, Welcome to a very special episode of The Tiger Sisters. It's me and me, The Tiger Sisters. This podcast episode is for everyone but our mother. You are mom watching this right now. Turn this off this episode. It's not for your ears. It's not for you. close this video. Never open it up again. In this episode, we're going to be talking about all things personal. We don't usually do this. We usually keep it very profesh.
But in this episode, we're going to be talking about dating, dating advice, and answering some of the questions that you guys have asked us on our personal lives. So the reason we decided to do this episode is because we got a lot of questions about our dating lives and our personal lives and what our statuses. So we're going to answer them.
And since we talked about professional stuff for the previous podcast, it's nice to have a bit of a balance so you can understand us more as people, which is what this whole podcast is about. And so we're going to be opening up that side to you. Yes, and I think we should do a whole separate episode about this.
But the point of Tiger Sisters is not just that we want you to have a successful career and like a successful professional life, but really what we want to do with this podcast is to have a really holistic approach to living a, you know, joyful,
wealthy and fun life. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to create this podcast with you too, is because like, so much of our early careers, we're so focused on like, the academic achievements and the professional achievements that like, I feel like sometimes there have been sacrifices in the personal life or the personal department.
And so it's really important that like, we focus on that now and we just talk about some of the things that we've gone through so that, you know, like, how do you balance, like, work and dating? Like that's a very real thing that like, girlfriends talk about. Yeah, cool. We have mailbag where we take like questions and DMS from you guys and we answer it. So the first thing is that I have someone named Philip Sebastian who said is your sister single?
I might have a friend that might be a good match. I might have a friend that might be a good match. That's. Probably one too many mites for me. Yeah, seriously. Yes, he's very successful in VC, sold his company YC, etcetera, but he's a really nice guy and smart. And I said who is it? And then they said this person and gave me their personal website and apparently he is a tech entrepreneur, investor and collector. A collector of what? A collector of what?
Collector of women in binders? Does anyone still get that joke? Wait, what is that I just. Remember when Mitt Romney was running for president and he was like, and people were like, you haven't you're not nominating any women for your like bored. And he was like, I have lots of women. I have tons of women in binders. Maybe he was like reviewing resumes of like women in binders. But then. That was, oh wait, I was. OK, please tell me some people are watching this who understand
that reference. I thought you were making a weird like serial killer reference. Yes, but that was like the second layer of the joke, but you needed to get the original reference to then get the second layer of the joke. OK, well hopefully he's not collecting actual women in binders. Hopefully he's collecting art, but we don't know. So anyways, Gene, I would love to ask you, are you single?
What is your status? OK, so yes, I am single and I guess in general I actually feel pretty nervous talking about this topic just because I'm very new to this whole creator lifestyle and creator career. And so I'm not as used to putting myself out there as much as Sharia is like you've been doing it for. 4. Plus years, yeah, like almost five years now and you're just so fluid and good at it.
Whereas for me, I think like naturally, I'm a much more private person, but I do think back to what we said earlier, like dating and relationships and friendships are just such a critical and important part of living like a holistically happy life that we should talk about it. So yes, that's all to say that I am single.
I am recently single. And how does this person sound to you if this guy who might be a friend, who might be a friend, very successful in venture capital, sold his company Y Combinator? Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a good resume. I mean, that's not that's not like an automatic. Yes, we'd want to know more about him, but. It's interesting that this person is recommended from another person, basically someone who DM Ed me. But like you don't know this person who DM Ed you. No, I don't.
OK. So it's kind of. It's a little bit risky. Yeah, it's funny, but it's also risky. Like, what are your thoughts now about dating apps versus, like, getting a friend to recommend someone? Yeah, well, I did use. Dating apps a lot like I was on them a bunch when I was single, but that was back in like, you know, I used them up until 2015, I guess. Oh wow, that's a long time ago. That's like almost 10 years ago. You kind of remind me of my
boss. Like one of my old bosses was dating someone for 10 years before he got married. And he would always like ask me like, what's it like on the dating apps? He's like, what is it? What do you guys even do? What question? What hit up, like hit up lines do you get? And so I would kind of like decode it for him. This is when I was like, 20-3. Yeah. I'm like, look at all my matches. And they're like, would you respond to that? Like, show me their profiles? Like, it was just a fun
conversation. But he was like, so out of the dating game, Yeah, that he's, like seeing it for the first time. Yeah, I mean, what is funny and kind of like mortifying is that I was like looking at my friend's Hinge profile the other day and I was like trying to, like scroll through things. And I, like, couldn't even, I like, didn't even know how to, like, operate it anymore. I was like trying to scroll through the, like, carousel and it didn't work. And I was like, what's wrong
with this? And then she was like, here, look, you do this. And I was like, and then I like totally like blamed it on the app. I was like, the tap zone is too small here. Like they need to like work on that. Like you need to shake and like send in a report. Technology has evolved since 2015. Yeah. So I think in general, I'm not opposed to dating apps, but I also am not on them now.
And I kind of am just, maybe this is naive, but I'm kind of just hoping that I just meet people organically and through friends and it just magically happens. Yeah, I don't know if that's, I mean, I don't know if that's naive. I think that's optimistic, but also like it's much better from what I've heard and seen to like get a friend referral to like if you are looking to date or get
serious. It's like way more serious when your friend recommends someone because especially if it's someone that you trust, it's already vetted And then like they might know you, they know the other person really well. Like, it's kind of like a matchmaker. Yeah, I haven't really dated anyone seriously who I was like set up with, but. I've actually never been set up with. I would love to be set up. Oh yeah, do your work, do your work, people. OK, And since no one asks, I'm also so.
Sorry, I'm also learning how to ask her more questions on these. Yes, aside from usually I'll say, how about you? I'm like, that's not a real question. You could say like, I'm not so curious how would you answer this question, but you can't say how about you? OK, work on it, but back to me. OK, I guess for me my experience with using dating apps 10 years ago.
What was that? When I was, you know, just five years old, I I've never really had a serious relationship with anyone who I met through dating app that I wouldn't have already potentially met through a friend of a friend or through a friend, if that makes sense. Like you met someone on a dating app, but you had met them in real life already.
I could have met them in real life, like we had enough mutual and I don't even know if that was like a serious relationship that was like on and off for like 5 or six months or something. Pretty much everyone who I've dated seriously has been through like school or like meeting work. Or work. Oh my God, we had to talk about that. The coworkers, but also I. She's very against it. I'm super against it. Having dated a Co worker, I'm very against it. Well, I was also going to say
like that's pretty good though. Like you've met people very organically in your life and you haven't really had to like use the dating apps, which I think a lot of people have found success on dating apps. So it's like definitely a good Ave. for some people. Yeah, I've also never, I've never like dated a random person.
Like, you know how on TV or in books and stuff, it always seems like people will like go up to someone at a bar or you'll, or you'll like meet someone when you're out and then you'll like give them your phone number and then you'll like go on a date. Does that happen for people? Does that happen to you guys? Like maybe I just have too much like ingrained stranger dangers, but I like don't feel. Comfortable with that.
I feel like I mean there's definitely some level of stranger danger there, but like I feel like that happens less and less now that like we have so many touch points with people on like Instagram and people are just like so focused on their phones when they go out. Like I think it happens much less now than like in like the 2000s or. Whatever. Yeah. OK. So for you, you're also newly single. Yes, I am newly single. In a new city. In a new city.
How are you feeling about that? I feel optimistic but also like very weird. I'm like smiling because like it's it, it's exciting. Like I think I'm still processing my previous relationship. I dated someone at school. It was like a very fulfilling, a very connected relationship. And I would say like, I've learned a lot from my from that relationship about myself and like what I want going forward, which I think was really important for me. But I don't know, I think dating
is weird. I went on one date and it was someone who I had met in person at one of your friends house parties and at first I was like is this a date? It's not a date, it was of. Course it was a date. Yeah, it was a date, Yeah. Duh. Well, they didn't say like, do you want to go on a date? I don't know. Anyways, it was just like really subtle. But anyways, it was a date and I was surprised. Like I really enjoyed myself.
I think coming out of my last relationship, I was like, I don't know, I feel like I still need to process stuff, and I think I do. But like, I was like, I should probably just get out there and like, see what it's like to, like, meet someone. Yeah. And I really had fun. Yeah. I told this to my girlfriends, and they're just like, wait a second, hold up. Did you have fun because this person was engaging and interesting? Or did you have fun because you, Cherie, are engaging and
interesting? I mean hopefully both I guess. Yeah, but that's something that my girlfriends called out because it's like, I've enjoyed myself. And they're like, yeah, but like, you're so interesting that of course you enjoyed yourself. Yeah, I have definitely been on dates where after like a few dates with someone, you're like, wait, am I like the entertainer here? Like, am I am I like the entertainment?
Like what? So this guy was, this was a long time ago, obviously, but this guy was an investment banker. And what? He was like, idiotic. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, it's so funny. He was like extremely successful and he was, I don't think I've ever told you this. He was, he was literally, he was a collector of cars. Oh. And he picked me up in. Oh, you did tell me this. Was this in San Francisco? Yes. He he picked me up in Oh my God, I don't remember the car now. Oh, OK.
He picked me up in one of his cars, which was a Scuderia. I have no idea what. I don't remember which like car brand that is, but it was like a. The car people know. And then he like, took me to this like really fancy, like Michelin star restaurant, blah, blah, blah. But he was just so boring. Like all he really cared about was he loved his job, which like so happy for him, but he like didn't really have that many interests. Did you only go on one date?
No, we went on a few dates and also he was again a friend of a friend. So that's how I even got to know him. Is that like we had hung out a few times in like a friend context, like a group friend context, like he like made it clear that he was interested in me. So then we went on a couple dates or we went on a few dates. No, he was like a really nice guy, but I was just like the conversation was not giving well, I think in. That case, like what is that
show like? Are you looking for someone who's like, interesting? I'm not even interesting about Is it like funny? Is it like? Yeah, I know. That's your like #1 yeah, requirement, right? It is now OK After I dated the last person from school, I realized how much I felt like when we were dating. It felt like I was back in high school again. We were just like laughing and giggling all the time and it was just like so much levity in my
life. And I'm like a very like cheerful person and I love to laugh. And I felt like she. Lol loves to. Laugh but like I forgot what it felt like to laugh like that with someone. It's like joke around and just be so playful, like bringing like child like play back into the relationship. Like when I am, I don't know, like 50 or 60, like I still want that to be a core tenant of my relationship in the future. And the person I had dated before was like very different from that, like a.
Little more serious. Yeah. I feel like a few of the people that you've dated can be put into the bucket of like, Oh my God. What you're like analyzing? Of like really attractive but kind of stoic. Really. Oh, I can see that. Yeah, like just not very humorous or playful. Yeah, like nice people.
Yeah, but. They like take themselves very seriously, yes, which I found out like I don't, I'm not very, I mean, I guess I am drawn to that, but like moving forward, like that's not something I want or I'm looking for in a partner really. I think it's so much more fun when people don't take themselves seriously. Yeah, yeah, it's fun to. It's fun to have fun.
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Love you. Bye. One of the questions that we got on my Instagram was like, how do you balance life and work, dating and work, and what happens when you're trying to like, excel in your career? That's a great question. I think what the question actually does though, the way that it's worded is that it kind of actually falsely implies that dating and relationships and work life are actually like perfectly separated in different
buckets. I think the reality of it is that especially for people who are so invested in their work lives and their professional lives that oftentimes they end up being one in the same. Because if you're spending like 40 to 100 hours at work every week, like you don't really have as many more opportunities to build meaningful relationships or to like meet other people. And then also just proximity and like repeated exposure builds interest I think is another
reality. People that you work with, yes, guilty. Yeah, guilty. It might work out for some people to date their Co workers. Like if it's the love of your life, like I think there have been really successful stories, but for me it has not worked out. And people usually say don't shit where you eat, which is basically like don't date where you work. Yeah. If they're on your immediate team, like that's pretty weird. Like it can get pretty weird if you guys are at the same
company. It's a big company. Like, sure, like things can be normal if things go South, but like, you have to like end up seeing that. If you have to end up seeing that person in a meeting or at your work every single day, like just imagine how like stressful that is. If you are in a situation where you really want to date someone at work, maybe a reasonable compromise is that you can just hold off and see if one of you
ends up leaving the company. And then you can date after the fact and after you're, you know, have less like interactions that are work. Related related anyway, so my my advice is try not to date anyone at work and if you can hold off I think that would be a really good idea. Yeah, maybe like the way that you can look at it is that the people that you meet and interact with at work are like a pool of people you could potentially date in the future.
Yeah. So that you can get to know everyone as like a Co worker and as a friend. And then in the future maybe something develops from it. Thinking back for myself, that's been some of my more positive relationships. People that I I had originally met through work, but then we hadn't dated until after the fact, sometimes even like years, like a year later or something like that. Really. That's kind of romantic. Yeah.
I think maybe that's also my personality is that I'm kind of more of like a slow burn person or like I like to feel like really comfortable with a person. So that's why like for me, I was saying like pretty much all the people I dated seriously, I like knew them and then hung out with them multiple times in totally platonic situations, oftentimes like years or even like a month before we like actually tried out a romantic relationship. Interesting. I think I'm the opposite. Oh really?
Aside from someone who's funny, what are you looking for? I think it's really important for me to find someone who challenges me. Oh, true. Both like, physically and like, intellectually, Yeah. One of my like, favorite things about my one of my past relationships was that Beep was a really good snowboarder. Right, that's what I thought. He was a really good snowboarder
and I ski. And one of my most like fondest memories is when we went skiing slash snowboarding together and he would take me down mountains that were literally like turn around, you may die, we're not responsible for your death. And I was definitely not at his level. And we got into like fights on the mountain because it would take me like way longer to get down. But he was like there to like coach me through it all and stuff. And I think it made us stronger
at the end. And that was like very much like a physical challenge that I really. Enjoyed. I want to put that in a different way for you. I think you enjoy people. Who? You learn from. Yes, 100% yes. I. Agree, that is also something that I really value. I don't think I could ever date someone who I didn't think was smart for me like that is well, that's. Like the intellectual, like challenge, like yes, like you want them to like push you intellectually and like, yeah,
have a conversation that's. True, but like you can learn stuff from people who are not intellectual. Right. Yeah, I like to be challenged. I like to learn from other people. And then also I feel like I like to be pushed as well. One of the good things from my last relationship was that I felt like we constantly had conversations that pushed me out of my comfort zone. And it was like a very like safe
place. It's like have those conversations, those debates, for example, we talk about, I don't know, something that's like happening in the world are like happening in like the economic markets. And I was like, Oh, I don't really understand that. But like it pushed me to like want to understand. And I didn't feel dumb being like, Oh, I don't understand this thing because like I know I'm not a dumb person.
And I think like having that level of trust, that respect that like they're like, I understand you. And I also want to like help you understand this. And like I would do that for him in like other aspects where I felt more like well versed. So she wants a nerd I. Love nerds. You got to be a nerd. You have to be a funny nerd and something like in the combination of that is. Who is also an amazing skier or
snowboarder and golfer. And golfer, I love if you can teach me golf like that's bonus 10 points. I would say like in the intersection of like nerd and funny is you have to be witty. Like I love puns. And I think if someone is like witty and like is she wants that repartee that banta, she wants the banta. Like the witty sense of humor is so like attractive. It's very funny. Kind of like a stand up comedian. Without the depression, do we get through all the attributes? Anything else?
Oh, I have another one. OK, tell me I. Really love. I'm really into people who prioritize fitness, right? Like physical fitness, because normally I am, I think, a bit of a couch potato or like I lean. Towards you are not a couch potato at all. I. Lean towards couch potato like there there's days where I can go like 2-3, four days without working out. That doesn't make you a couch
potato, guys. I don't think she knows what a couch potato is. Well, I think I like someone who's more active than I am, OK, to encourage you to challenge you to challenge me. And then we can like, do activities together, like play pickleball or tennis. We can go to yoga together. My last my ex and I did like all those things together. What if? What if they're like pressuring you to be active every single day though? I would like that. What if they pressure you to do 2A days?
I don't know how I would feel about that. Like I, it would make me like a healthier, better person. I might be exhausted and like have to weigh like, you know, the pros and cons of the time that in terms of like how am I feeling and is my work impacted by how tired I. What if they were like you must be a long distance runner and. That's a weird criteria, but I think that only makes me healthier. OK.
Like if we like did a half marathon or signed up for 1/2 marathon together and like how to put together a training plan like that is only pushing me and challenging me in a good way. OK, but what if it was the marathon? I don't think I would ever do a marathon. I think, yeah, I don't know. It's a bucket list item maybe? OK, why are you trying to do me? Why are you trying to do a gotcha? Why? Because I'm trying to test the bounds. I think. This interest of this what you
want? I think if it's 3A days, I'm out. If it's sign up for a marathon, maybe. Yeah, like I would. It's a bucket list item. So to add to your list, she wants a hot fit, funny nerd. Hot fit, funny, witty nerd. Yes, who's into extreme cold sports? Like curling, for example. Not curling. So you're looking for a hot funny. No, let's not. Let's not mislead anyone. OK, just kidding. Just kidding. OK, what about do you want to be in a power couple? Oh. This is a tough question.
I am pro power couple. How would you define power couple? Oh, that's also a good question. A power couple, assuming that you are in a more traditional relationship involving two people, a couple is two people who have like high status within their professional lives, I would say. And the high status could be that they are influential, that they have power. Obviously in a power couple, they are people of influence.
And it could be like whatever job that they have, they could be like in a nonprofit, but they're a very influential person. They could be working in finance or whatever, influential person. But I would say that constitutes a power couple. OK. I like the idea of a power couple. I think that's so fun, especially if you have someone who is encouraging you and supporting you to get to the next level. And you guys can be like strategizing together. On like.
World domination, like that's exciting to me. Have you ever felt like you were in a power couple? My most recent accent mentioned that he thought we were a power couple. Oh wow. Or I guess someone mentioned to him someone from like work or something that was much more senior to him. And he told this person about me and that person deemed us a power couple. And then my ex says she's more
the power and the power couple. But I like I would say in the last, the last few, they kind of felt power couple. Y Well, I think the person has to be ambitious. I do think that the concept of the power couple, though typically in a heterosexual relationship, favors the man. Favors the man in terms of he holds the more most of the
power. Or no, just in terms of let's say you have two people who start a relationship together at the and they're the same age and we like hold their career potential and their performance everything constant. If you are growing a life together, like everything outside of your careers, usually the woman is the one that has to like take a step back in order. To. Invest in the family. Would you rather are you saying like the other alternative is like a stay at home dad?
The ideal is to be in a power couple, but I don't. I'm trying to think of like, really successful examples. I guess people are like, oh, Michelle and Barack Obama. Serena and Alexis. Ohanian the interesting thing is that they didn't become a couple until both of them essentially reached their peak of their career. Like I'm not saying they're like going down, but they like reached extremely significant career highs and like then they
started being a couple. Let's talk about The Bachelorette. That is a show that Cherie and I watched together. I've been watching The Bachelor for a long, long time. Much longer than you. How long, How many years? How many decades have you been like, so long. We love this new season with the first Asian Bachelorette. Yeah, with Jen Tran. So excited to see her on there. She's. Yeah, I'm so proud of her. Me too. I'm. Really proud of her. I love this season and I love seeing her shine.
Yeah, well, so we actually Cherie hosted a Bachelorette watch party earlier this week with her friends. One of the things that we were talking about is that the topics they talked about on the episode were just like topics we've never seen explored. It's. On the Bachelor, it's like this, this season is very intense.
Like they talk about like family way more like especially like family like issues, like troubles growing up, like self-confidence, like one of the contestants like was in the military and like something horrible happened. Like it's like a heavy season. But I think the reason why we're actually exploring these topics for the first time is because of Jen and because her background is very different than 99% of the bachelorettes that came before her.
Historically, the franchise is a very like white and Christian based franchise and also very traditional values of family. Family. Yeah. But like she talks about how she kind of grew up in a broken home where her father abandoned her. And she has been very open about like working through some of those issues. I love it because it makes her feel so much more relatable.
Yeah. Because like, even if you haven't gone through those things yourself, I can see the emotion and the vulnerability that comes with that. Whereas like, I feel like the past bachelorettes maybe they've gone through like horrible breakups and like infidelity and like other like, really traumatic stuff. But like, I don't know. I'm just like talking about the family and like a broken family in that way and issues of self-confidence, like everything just feels like way much like
way more deep in this season. Yeah. And now, the new Bachelor. Is your favorite? No, it's not Marcus. Oh yeah, the. New bachelor's grant. Yeah. Who I guess was my favorite. Yeah, my favorite as of right now is Marcus and with all just the context of the TV show that we're watching. Yeah, that's true. OK, that's fair. He is the front runner for me. I think just he was in the military. He's like a very sturdy, like it seems like a respectable,
responsible man. Yeah, although some Reddit threads that I've read have raised issues about him, but that's outside of the show. Outside. Of the scope of the show, yeah. Outside of the scope. That's out of the scope, outside of the scope objection. Your Honor, that's an objection, Your Honor. Libel. Yeah, objection, your Honor. Hearsay. Yeah, wait.
But OK. But based on what you said you're interested in your the person that you should like the most would be Devin or or. Devin reminds me of my ex. The most recent one, yeah, OK, but that he fits the cat. Like the things that you said you're interested in. You said you're interested in a funny, witty. Nerd not nerdy enough, I think. The human, I guess you. Don't know if anyone's nerdy. They don't really.
Well, we know that. Johnson and Marcus are nerdy because they were doing a crossword puzzle. OK. That was like a half second. Well, I don't know, I feel like. The crossword puzzle doesn't mean you nerdy, does it? It makes you nerdier. It raises your nerdy level. Nerd Quotient Yes +5. Well, Devin is just like the jokes that he makes are kind of dumb to me. Like I don't, I think like dumb humor. Like you can have dumb humor, but you have to be smart to make dumb humor funny.
So you don't think he's funny? Not really. I think he's funny. Well, you're right that Marcus is very serious. Yeah, Marcus. Is the stoic the stoic hot guy again? Once again, he has no sense of humor. I mean that we've seen in the episode. Yes, that we've seen. That we've seen, Yeah. Oh, no, you're right. That is my. You see, I have an old type and I'm trying to evolve into a new type. Yeah, so she wants the old type again. No. Wow, wow. We just revealed.
That was very revealing. Well, I that was very revealing. Dang it, you know what? Cotter. You know what? All the exes that have been stoic and handsome are very like Marcus. Like they're very like, like sturdy. Yeah. I I like that because they're responsible too. For the most part. They're like very responsible, have their head on straight type of person like I want to be. I want them to be very dependable, which is what I like about Marcus. And so like, can I have someone who's.
Can I dependable? Can she has? Can I Can she has hamburger? May I has cheeseburger? May I has please? May I has cheeseburger She just wants someone who is the Venn diagram of dependable and playful. Yes. Can someone not be both? I am both. Yeah. You are. Yeah. So you want someone who's the same as you? She wants a twin. She wants a male twin. That's weird. Narcissism. Just kidding. Oh, wait. Who's the one? Who's the one who has two earrings?
Jonathan. Jonathan. Yeah, I. Really like Jonathan, he's my number 2. After Marcus. But they're so different. Are they? That's the two archetypes that you're talking about. Stoic and like, muscular, Sturdy. I mean, they're they all have muscles because they're on. Well, not all of them, Devin. Well, anyway, cut that out. No, they all fit. Yeah. OK, we'll forget it. I don't want to talk about
people's bodies. Stoic and not really much of A sense of humor, but very, like, sturdy and dependable versus fun playful. Yeah. I'm worried about Jen because OK, my main take away of the most recent episode where Marcus who his background is that he is like a Army Ranger. So like a military vet. He had like a major traumatic experience. And he also when he was when he grew up, he was went through the
foster care system. So to me, even like watching these episodes, I'm like, he has so much to work through. I feel like he's going through like 10 years of therapy in these like the five week long show. I don't want for Jen to have to like, take all that on, even though ironically, the fact that he has gone through all that is I think why she sees him in such a positive light. Like she's like, wow, you're so mature.
She like imputes all these really positive traits on him because of the experience that he's gone through. But she doesn't necessarily thinking through like the downsides of them. Well, it might be like one of her responses to hearing all of that is like maybe like an I can fix him, yes, or like I can make him open up to me type of thing. Yes. Which is Is that a fatal flaw for a woman? It actually, it reminds me of someone that I used to date like who was, it was a very serious
relationship in my 20s. This person was like super like extremely smart, very playful, funny, et cetera. He had had cancer during undergrad in college and he beat it because of that. I think I sort of put him on this pedestal where I was like, oh, he's so mature because he's had this like life and death experience where he survived cancer. I kind of viewed everything he did through these more rose colored glasses where I just assumed he was very mature and thoughtful.
Whereas I think if I hadn't known that about him, I would have been more aware of some of the like bullshit. So I think that this is what Jen is experiencing. She has these same like rose colored glasses on because of his like life experience. I want her to have like an easy life because she's already had a lot of trauma herself.
I think it would be tough to then have to like pour herself into helping someone else work through their trauma while also building a relationship for the first time. I guess it just depends on what everyone wants. I don't know if someone would want that, but like someone might be less like or more willing to take that on. She's young. Anyways, all that to say, Jen, we are rooting for you. Yeah. We wish you nothing but the best and happiest. Life. Yeah, Jen, you're doing great.
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