With Lost Taylor and Christian Carlisle in this episode we catch up with the ferociously talented Becca Macintyre and MarmoZETS We talk close calls with vocal catastrophe, love letters to Celine Dion and how Luz could solve his vocal issues with a pregnancy. So how's things are you doing? Good, yeah I'm really good. I'm actually a bit nervous because I'm like this is like the closest thing we've done to like band thing and like
actually the agents and other things. Oh really? Yeah and thank you so much for asking
me to be involved as well. Tell you what no Luz, it was quite amazing because this is something that is never talked about and I've always felt like so like shitty about a situation if my voice has not been on point before it feels and I've been out in situations where people have said you got to do this show there's too much money on the line and you we can get sued if you don't sing tonight and I'm like I'm scared my voice is going to break
like yeah that's that's pressure right there who says that. This is this is I was in LA when this happened and they have to go where where did we ended up stopping at? I owe everything goes wrong for us. I went to the police like you need to stop singing now and I was like oh shit okay she was like you're this you're this close to getting
out. Well it must have been terrifying me I can't even like I was spoken to laws about you know his problems that he's had but I've never really had that much interaction with people who especially in your case like come really close to losing losing that completely that must
be terrifying. But well it was and the fact that nobody understands or gets you it's like I know it's not something that looks physical or you know just like mental health I guess if you put it in that in that way but you know I was it just I've been like in tears a little bit because it's
like I can't sing like I know I am gonna break if I go out and do this and it doesn't matter how much I want them it's the fact it's always America it's bloody America they put you on a tour out there and it can it can make a breaker band like honestly it can and for vocalist it's going to be the most hardest thing you're gonna do vocalist. Do you put the sort of how harsh touring in America is down to sort of like heavy air conditioning and and and and then the opposite side of that it's
like a lot of dust. I think it's the whole environment like you know we've we've had it we've had it tough where we've been in a band the whole time we've stayed in one star house which are
smoking rooms and that's brutal for a vocalist. But that's kind of that's kind of what the band lifestyle at times can be like you know what I mean like I've smoked I drink I did everything under the sun like and I just thought that life like that's it if you're gonna be in this music industry in this side especially doing rock or metal that's it it just comes with it.
Yeah definitely. I soon learned that holy moly like I might be gonna die like living this lifestyle and my career is gonna come for stop if I if I don't do something about it so and it's still something I'm working out now I've been I've stopped smoking I've started exercise thin and vegan like my life has completely changed. Was that a moment for you where you realized that can you like remember the moment or was it more of a gradual kind of realization?
Um I think because we started so young and we didn't really we as a band we didn't have that protection like that you see now with a lot of young people that are getting into the music industry there seems to be a lot more health these days and especially if you're bringing a lot
of money you know people really look after you then but for a band like us it was just I'm not blame in anyone and it is down to us but I think we were really young when we started and we just wanted to beat the cool kids on the book and hang out and we just we were naive we did everything.
Yeah but you've got to you've got to live that lifestyle you have to live that lifestyle else you feel like you're doing rock and roll with this service you know what I mean you just like yeah we're out on the road like with your best mates and in your case Becca we like you you
siblings pretty much and then you know you just have the best time ever aren't you that's what you got to try and do and unfortunately you're constantly surrounded by booze and it comes with a lot of consequences and I think
but I think like growing isn't like a musician or a vocalist like you slowly learn like your voice doesn't work as well if you treat your body in a certain way so like I've done the same Becca to be honest I'm like I switched it up and I'm you know I'm working out more than I ever
have and I'm trying to live healthily and work on my sort of techniques and stuff like that so yeah so we're on a similar train really just trying to stay fit and healthy and trying to sound decent which I think there's a lot to be said it's difficult for me there's a lot to be said
if you think that you know looking after yourself even if it's just small things like physical exercise changing your diet and stuff like that how much of an impact those things can have on things that you wouldn't normally associate with that like your voice you know living that
better lifestyle can perpetuate your voice being more more on point yeah definitely how did you get into wanting to sing in the particular style that you you you've crafted how did how did you were you into sort of metal and that led the way for you or was it like a completely different like
road like what were the first sort of bands you kind of heard or it was it was when I decided to stop doing performance because I did a lot of dancing when I was younger it really wasn't for me I was a lot more laid back and I like to keep it keep it real and I'm earning my best when I'm
real which is something I've realised and forming outside was just too not real for me it was like you always had to be somebody else and pretend to be someone else and as soon as I went to music college went to these college music that's cool I like that that's the position that you made there
yeah kind of you kind of figuring out I'm gonna make it like I want to perform and be mean I want to be mean to somebody else yeah that's the thing like even at a young age when I look back and I'm so harsh in myself all the time and I was like did I make the right decision sometimes because I was getting quiet I've started to get a bit of acting work and I started dancing for this girl from Jodie Aysher I don't know if I'm heartbroken without your love heartbroken I don't know if you
remember that one. Bagley. Like a baseline track. Anyway I did like I did a bit of dancing for and I was helping out and we were coming to record like our first like EP is a band type thing yeah and it was either go dance to this girl or go do my own thing and I was just like
I'm gonna go do my own thing like that's that without thinking anything was gonna happen but I just knew that was right so I know what to music college and then from there on I just got I was obsessed with under oath and left with black fish we obviously had that under oath and we had like the metal
and kind of like and there was all the straight edge crews going around and they were like so many venues open and I just all I did was just go get bashed around at the well and go to washers absolutely loved it but I will never forget going to see a bank called black fish who
I called and it's Math Rock because what they'd call it they had a bank called Gates for Johnny Dep and we ever heard of M before I am a baby yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was supporting and this was like the first time that I was like kind of freaked out by seeing someone come
because he was like hitting his head against the wall and he'd come up to people in the counter like strangling and put them on the floor and shit and it came up towards me and I just stood there and I remember all the guys from college just stood around me and I just looked at him in the eye and I was like, I will have you if you don't do it like that. That was when I got the feeling
for like, oh my god, you know, this is what I want to do. Like I want to not be part of that, you know, like slit nothing, making people feel uncomfortable, but I want to be part of that, that edge because that felt right to me. Like I didn't want to be part of princess or anything like that. And yeah, just naturally all of us clicked, we loved blackfish, we love white stripes and under
and I will never forget it was actually in Donkaster. And we went, yeah, we went to stay with Cam and we went to this bar and we had this guy called EJ there and Jack just kept saying the same, he kept saying what are you doing, but like screaming it. And then just at the blue, he said, Becca, you have a girl and I just went, what are you doing? Like so loud. And they were like, holy shit, you can scream. And I was like, what do you mean you can, like I can scream, you know, like scream
over vocals, like you should have a go at doing it. Amazing. I just started listening to Androel and I just started copying some stuff that Spencer was doing. I love Spencer's voice. Oh my god. It's one of my faves. Yeah, absolutely. Amazing band. And that was just you just belting it out for the first time in a boring Donk and somebody going, oh, you can do that. And that's when you clicked, yeah. Yeah, that was it. And then I just started doing it in band practice
and it just felt natural. And nice. So you see kind of, did you feel like you had to sort of obviously in terms of being in the professional band, you're obviously out to like hone it and craft it to just be sustainable and like what works best with your body and stuff like that. But did you feel like as soon as you let out that kind of like scream that you, you know, it would be, I don't know. Did you have any thoughts of being like that felt comfortable, like in terms of like
I could do that. Yeah. If it stays on that kilter, like that's where that's where the air pressure needs to be and just felt right. Well, it was coming from my diaphragm and I went to go see a singing teacher because my can rubber to shock how I could do these gigs and then come off and not lose a voice and still talk the way I do. Yeah. Always like it's just adrenaline and I think I'm doing it
like, I'm like, are you feeling it in your throat? Because the first thing that people would always say is like, especially people that don't listen to metal music, the compliment that I'd always get was, you sound like you're ill, you sound like you're ill, like all the time. And I'm like, I'm like, I don't know, I just found it really bizarre. I was like, yeah, but that's my jam. That's what I do. Like if I sound in, it sounds ill. Like it's my way of expressing myself. That's it.
I wasn't trying to sing like anyone else. I just knew it felt right for me and it was definitely part of my identity then because I was an angry teenager. And that was my way of being able to just like, let loose. It's not easy by any means, but being able to sort of let go of negative energy for me in that way. Like it was a thing, like it felt really punk rock and it was a bit, you know, anarchy or whatever it made me feel like. That's what I enjoyed about it. So initially, like,
I couldn't try to let it play guitar. It's just to just annoyed me so much. And then I was like, so what's next? I'll just sing or shout. Do you think that the performing or excited things? I'm really you said, you're singing from your diaphragm and you're like, you know, and where you're singing from. Did that play a part, that background in when it came to developing a technique when it came to singing it at all? I think I think it felt more like it's like
a let go. Like is it more for you just like boom, like an explosion of expression and what comes out, kind of comes out at that moment? Yeah, well, your soul is right there in your diaphragm. That's what you're in soul. So, I realized that's where the pain comes from. That's where the anger comes from. That's where everything comes from. And I guess that is where that screen came from. And it, you know, there's people that try and do it because they want to do it. But there's
people that naturally just come across it and they find it. It's that demon inside you, you know, it's like, it needs to, it needs to let people know what the heck's going on. Hey, you're listening to the Thrott podcast. And we're catching up with Becker Mac and Tire from Morma's Edge. So, do you have a recollection of the first time you were touring and you actually came into a bit of trouble? You were like, it's like clamped up on me or like I'm not making a sound,
I'm horse. Like what was it that sort of made you wise to these to being in the touring artist, you know what I mean? Like it's, it can be tricky out there on the road. And do you have any specific moments or gigs where you were like, wow, that's not coming out. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is fucked up. The more unconfident I got the worse I started singing. Really? It's when I stopped leaving it myself and started comparing myself to other people.
Right. Confidence is such a huge thing and knowing who you are as person and as a vocalist, there is, yes, it's, see, we live in a world where everyone can talk about you online and, you know, in interviews and for me, I've always had that thing of like being compared to Hayley Williams or whatever, do you know what I mean? And I'm a pretty sensitive person and I've always had this like, people are being like, oh, you're actually a really nice person and they
think I'm this terrifying person because I come on stage and scream. It's got nothing to do with my personality and that way it's just my way of expressing like people go to yoga or whatever, you know what I mean? So, but I found the moment I started being so harsh on myself and thinking I wasn't good enough and I wasn't going to make it as a singer or whatever, you know, we all go through these times in our lives, you know what I mean? And that was the moment where I would overthink
my vocals and just give myself such a hard time that I just couldn't sing it. Yeah. That must be a, that's, must be a hellish double-edged sword as well that you're losing your voice a bit because of your confidence. I imagine, which soon as that's the voice starts to go, the confidence starts to plummet and you're in this kind of vicious loop. It's definitely the stress of that situation. I've been there, you know, it feels like that's very much how it feels
like. You feel like as soon as your voice doesn't perform in the right way, you already feel like you're on the back foot. So, for like a touring artist, it's not just how that makes you feel initially, you've got to then work really hard to get in front of that vocal health. So you have to do a lot of
things that are very isolating. Yeah. Because, you know, it's in there what you're going to do. Like, yeah, there's been times where I've done like a, with the operations that I've had now severe my sort of, not severe the surgery was, but the problem was or could get to. Yeah. And yeah, I do like a play a show and go to bed, play a show and go to bed, play a show and go to bed. Yeah. Like every night to be on top of the vocal health when I had a polyp in there,
and that's like, that could be really lonely. Yeah. But what did my mentor in the winter, where you're on the back foot with your vocal and all you do is like, I mean, the show is amazing. So I guess that is what you live for. So you're out, but this time's where I just have to sit on bus and literally shut up. Did it make you appreciate the show's more? Like, you take away, you take away the lifestyle element of it, you kind of calm down and bit and stop party in this much.
Did it make you appreciate the show's more? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. I didn't, I wasn't like, none to it. It wasn't like all this buzz. It was like, that's my time during the day. But now, exercises making me feel like that in a different way. I mean, I'm stoked to try and
exercise and then get back to live shows and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you different perspective, when you started to run into the problems, Becca, what did we, you know, we've heard that you've changed your diet, changed your lifestyle, all those things that goes along with it. Was there anything you specifically did to do with your voice? Did you develop a vocal routine? Did you go and see a specialist? What did you do? Have you had warm-ups? Did you do warm-ups and
stuff? Yeah. After I did my first-ever singing lesson, a lady called Stevie Van Lahn. And she's this crazy South African chick who did the Venus Adverts and she's got the most like outrageous voice and her diaphragm is literally rock-solid hard. Like, when she sings, she goes punch my stomach and it's just rock art. It's like, I've never thought anything like it. It's just mad. And is that just because the muscles in a diaphragm are just that toned from the
control? Yeah. She's got that amazing. She's insane, but she's rock and roll and she deals with a lot of the rock and roll people in the industry who, it's a cocaine and she keeps, tries to keep them informed, you know what I mean? Her CD, she does a male CD and a girl's, but you can like, download it as like an audio thing. She's like amazing how she teaches you how to like get your breathing right, as well in the CD, it's training you. There's a lot of weird stuff on it, but it's
the norm for me. So I do that every, before every single show. But you know what, I had them days where I didn't warm up and that's when I realised, you know, sometimes touring just gets so cool and all the rest of your band members can just drink and smoke and do whatever they want. Because they play guitar drums, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And for me, I've got to go standing in a room and they're all like being loud and inviting all the
people to try it. It's great, it's the great one. That's what I think this podcast is kind of doing in a way, which is really cool because it gives all the vocalists a time to win about the band members and that, you know, loving it. I mean, my guys have got enough to say about me. But yeah, it can suck. It can suck, especially when you're trying not to not to pie and the parties happening regardless. The thing you've got to realise is like, I think we said this was raw.
It's everybody's saddening it, isn't it? Yeah. And you're going to your tingle. Like even in the week of his favourite band, though, it's a band you're really excited to see. Like, you're going out for it, you're going out, aren't you? But you're up the next day off. Exactly. So every gig that you go to, it's like you can be your saddening out if you want. And that's hard to stay away from. Yeah, that's generally it. But you kind of like, you don't...
Now I'm looking at it. It's like, this is my job. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I've got to be so serious about looking after myself and I want to be there. Like, actually be there my whole body and soul. Yeah. With the fans, do you know what I mean? Having that incredible experience. Because for so many years, yeah, the shows have been fucking rad and amazing, but I don't remember half of them. That's just got honest truth about it. Is you were living it?
Yeah, because I've just living it. But I don't think that lifestyle anymore. And that's not just because of having a baby was before that I started, you know, putting some of this stuff into practice. And I was like, I want to live till 100. I want to see the world and actually hang out in the world instead of just being in dark rooms, dark tour buses. Only being awake when it's dark. You know what I mean? I want to be able to go
out and tour and go see Niagara Falls instead of being too hungover. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I wish I had this awakened in before, but I can't dwell on the past and I've still got the features that are forward. Yeah. And I think like we said it, like we said a bit ago, you've got to have a good bit of that. Imagine touring the world, we have best dudes and like, you know, so have a drink and like, you know, as long as you play in the shows and you sound
in good, like, get all the crap coming. I mean, I did what you two do at a lower level. Just, you know, with DJing that I do and everything. I'm still you're there. You're gonna, poor you, you're gonna go for it. You're just like, yeah, well, if I, do you know the way I used to see it? I used to think to myself that I can't engage a crowd unless I'm on their level. I like, how am I going to, how am I going to go out with DJ to all that like 500 drunk people?
If I'm not drunk myself, and that was my rationale for it, I was like, well, I have to because I'll be better if I do, you know, and like, like, I wish I'd come to that conclusion as well sooner of being able to go, no, I don't want that anymore. I still want to do this, but I just don't want quite as much of that because I want to be able to actually remember what I'm doing.
I'm happy to get to a point when you can have your thumb, but you know when to stop, you know, I mean, like, I just think just for well being altogether, I'm so far that, and I'm going to have my fun on days, but it's about keeping it at a limit where it's like, okay, I can have a couple of glasses of wine and that's that. I'm not going right after party where we're going, and you're just like wandering around town, do you know what I mean? Trying to catch the next
pie after pie, do you know? That's what it used to be, and we'd get home in like six in the morning, and it's like, we've got to leave at nine, and I'm just like, I have to get my tits, you know, I mean, just like, there's been times where I might literally throw it up before I go on stage, but I tell you what, the some when I look back, some of the gigs, the days where I was so dead, and I was throwing up all day, and I have to have that adrenaline kick like kick in just before
going on stage. There were some of the best gigs I've ever had in my life. That's true. We, that's how we used to play. We would go out, get smashed, you know, late until we could get away, we're laying in, but we had to load in and stuff, and then the show would be sweating that, sweating last night out, and then once you come off stage and your adrenaline's gone, and you've worked out a bit, you're like, right, I'm out of a beer. It ends up being every day.
Got it all out your system. It ends up being every day. And you know, that is, it's amazing for a bit. Yeah, but if you've come to P.F. for if you pride sport in the long term, definitely, yeah. I think everybody comes to that realisation eventually. I feel for you, lot, you might, you have to go and do the full tours and everything. At least with me, I could go and do four days DJing at a festival, come home and then sleep for five.
And then go and do it again, not really an option when you've got, you know, 50 dates on the tour, and it's like bang bang one after the other. Becca, last time I saw a Marmos X Play Awards with you, me at six in Manchester, I think I bumped into a couple of you guys for a little bit. And you've got something amazing. It was a great show. Oh, it was pregnant. No way. Yeah, pregnancy really helps the girls boys. Honestly, because it shifts everything up, it's like bizarre, like,
your actual like vocal range and everything changes. No way. Incredible. Yeah, it abs notes. My website too big. How did I not know this by now? She didn't mean my making a sing. When I stopped, so I was quite a few. I found out I went on tour, came back, and I'd literally, I had such bad anxiety from tour life. And it's the doctors and I was like, listen, my anxiety through the roof, like I've got to do another tour, like, I don't want medication,
like is there anything else I can do? By the bar, like maybe go see someone. And she was like, well, for now, let's put you on some medications. So I did this whole tour, take the medication, I just kept being sick. And I was just like, oh my god, this is like horrific. I went back and I was like, listen, I can't take this settling. It's just, it's made me more panicky. I keep being sick. I can't even drink wine. And I was just like, and I can't even smoke. I just like, I said, I'm losing it.
I'm like, okay, yeah, these are side effects since you can get from these antidepressants. But you might be pregnant. Oh no. Ah, no way, no way, no way. You know, my lifestyle, it's rock and roll, it's crazy. Like there's no way, Jose. And she came back and she was like, yeah, you've five weeks pregnant. And I was like, but the day before that I quit smoking, which I found really interesting. But then yeah, anyways, so we did the whole tour and I was dying to tell of you, me at six,
that I was pregnant. Because I think that felt like I was a bit like, what's happened to Becca? She's so born. Like, like, like, begin and just like not drinking. But no one sussed out. Everyone's too busy getting fucked up, anyway. So it was, they didn't even click. I was having the best time of just being like, yeah, pregnant, bossing it on stage every night, doing what I love. And that was the first time my eyes were open to like this sober life.
And I was like, this is what I want to do. Like, this is good. Yeah, yeah. So, so motherhood has kind of kicked this wellbeing side of things into the overdrive, I imagine. Yeah. You want to get sober, get pregnant, love. That's it. That's it. Hey, you're listening to the Throat podcast. And we're catching up with Becca McIntyre for Mimezese. How is motherhood treating you, Becca? It's amazing considering the lockdown. I was looking up to have my baby before or happened.
I mean, I had Jack there with me like, super blessed about all that. I had a natural water birth, which was just honestly, it couldn't have gone bad. And then it did. I was so lucky. It was amazing. I'm terrified to have another one because it can't be as easy as that again. So that's what everyone tells me anyway. So I'll be completely honest with you. Having two kids isn't twice as hard as having one kid. It's about 10 times fucking harder.
Honestly, it adds up exponentially. Yeah. It's tough, but yeah. People say it changes their lives and you don't, you know, but it changes their lives for the best, but at the same time it does completely change. And life people are so right about that. Is the music changed in your house? There's music taste in your household. It's changed slightly now that you have an 18 month old running about. Or is it the same? Like when she was born, her favourite album was the new Rackentair's album.
I was standing. Nice. Just loves it. She would just be like, and the sexist was actually love to sexist, but she just doesn't have that. And I don't really like listen to sexist songs. And kind of one of them works like, you know, when every band's on a t-shirt type thing, I'm like, cool, don't need to check about them already fucking cool. Do you know what I mean? It's quite stupid, too.
Yeah, so I just like whatever they're cool, but actually when you listen to these bands, I'm rolling the t-shirts. That's why they're like, yeah. Would you encourage your daughter into the music world? You've seen it all, Watson all, the nitty gritty, the good side, the bad side. If she came to you and said she wanted to, you know, go down the same route you have, would you encourage it? Yeah, but they, some you manage it, that's what I'll tell her. Correct answer. I'm gonna get whatever.
Yeah, I'm gonna get it. I've sworn off that. I've met too many, too many, a troublesome dadager that I've said. I've sworn off it. Like, if my boys want to do it, they're on the road, not a chance. So Becca, where has this placed mama's ex then, interestingly? So because you were talking quite heavily and then like, I don't know, you took a couple of breaks for different reasons. This has been a little bit a break for you guys at the moment.
Is there new mama's ex tunes on the way or is that still on hold for a little bit or is... Me and Jack have wrote so much. Right, that's awesome. We need to make it mama's ex style. I don't know, I don't know if it was a baby and stuff like that. I'd been singing a lot of, we're not writing a lot of depressing stuff, but stuff that's just a lot different to stuff that we would put out as mama's ex then. Right. It needs, it needs that mama's ex finesse on it.
And I need that kind of nitty gritty attitude to come back of it. I just need to be pissed off at the world a bit, but the world's not doing it. I'm not like the mom to piss me off enough, so... Yeah. It must be yoga when I'm doing it. I don't know. It's... Is that because people eat all shit? You just enjoy being cute to have a little bit of it. You're like, oh, this is fine for me. I like this. I've got to interact with the public. Yeah. About their moments. It sucks what's going on, but...
Well, you've got a beautiful little bubble there at the moment, you know? Like, it must feel really special and like... Yeah, it is, but I'm so ready to get passed again, so... Yeah, definitely. I'm just waiting for, you know, just everyone to get together and... To everyone to be in the right place, so that's the only way I think things can work out is... people being in the right place and we're all wanting it as much as each other.
So... You want domestic fare for the return of gigs and festivals anytime soon? Hopefully. It just depends, like, if we can... We want to come back strong. Like, we don't want to just be coming back. I'd rather not come back at all. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I want to have about 10, 15 absolutely killer songs and everyone feeling good looking good, so that we can just do it. Do you know what I mean?
We can tour the world, we can do what we want and it's something that I really... I'd like creatively... I want to make sure. I've always been such a yes person all my life. Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, that's fine, but I've kind of had this whole new thing happen with me where I'm going to say no to things and I want things to go my way. Because I feel like over the years through getting record deals and dealing with them kind of people, I kind of felt like we lost our identities abandons. Right.
And that's a personal thing. And I know everyone, like, you can ask all the boys like, yeah, we weren't happy with that music video. We weren't happy. Like, musically, we were always happy, but just something always happened and we just... We weren't at all enough to take absolute control. It's not that we didn't care. But we just didn't know how to like take control of things.
Yeah, I think, you know, just from meeting you guys a few times and like watching the band play like, you know, I think you're going to come back and when you do, I think you'll come back as strong as... As strong as FEC. I cannot wait. And I think that's... But I do, I honestly feel like that's the mom as it is way as well. Yeah. You kind of chill it off a little bit and then when you want to go out of it, totally amazing. And that's what you guys been good at and like, yeah.
There's so many bends. Both of yours included. I want to be at your first gig back. Like, I want to be at that one because I know I'm going to try and get to as many first gigs as I can. Because I just think they're going to... It's just going to be unleashing the beast, isn't it? You're going to absolutely have it, aren't you? Absolutely. That's why I'm working out all the time. Because if I go straight into that, I'm not going to move that great to watch, do you know what I mean?
I've just got my ass for nine months. I'm going to jump into a mosh pit for 30 seconds and be like, I am too old for this shit. That's what we've done. It's fine. It's that adrenaline. When that kicks in, it's like, you're like superhuman. You can do whatever. It's the best drug there is when we get to go on stage and do what we do. There was, um, Frank Carton, the rattlesnakes did a show at Brixton Academy where they played facing all the people on the stage.
If anyone saw that, the public was pretty awesome. Yeah, it was cool. But he said something really nice about that feeling you get with the crowd. And just like how, how, I can't remember exactly how I said it, but go and check it out. It's the beginning of that show. Yeah, yeah. He describes that whole connection and what it sort of meant to him. And it was, it was good. Yeah. That's how I put it if I could speak properly. It was Frank, because I agree with what he says.
Yes, and he's on the head. Yeah, have you discovered any, uh, any new bands, any new music that you've been listening to over the course of the last few months? I've just been listening to Celine Dion. Yeah, actually, strangely enough. His song came on at random for me, literally yesterday, I think, which was what Celine Dion. Yeah, yeah, it took a screenshot of the thing. How does your algorithm, I don't know, but I'm going to pop Celine Dion. Celine Dion, how do you pronounce that?
On core and so on, core and so on, core and so on. That is an obscure Celine Dion. And but it sounded dark. Yeah. I'm going to have to listen to it. Like it was like, it was kind of poppy, but kind of dark. That one, that one's gone to hell and back. Like, I don't know the full story, but like her husband died of cancer. And she's like gone through so much shit. But I think that's why she's, she's dark.
That's why I connect with her because she like, all less stuff that she seems about is like heartbreak. And about her husband and stuff like that. I've never been married or lost a husband. I can't imagine what it's like for her. But I like that realness where she's actually, you know, she's not just talking about God knows what I mean. And so, and she's an absolute, she... Yeah, she can absolutely pal to some. Oh my God, the woman's voice is utterly incredible. Yeah. She's absolutely amazing.
And if you listen to some of our new album, it's just like it's insane. Like easily Ariana Grande or Justin Bieber could could have released one of these tracks. And it would have been the number one single. Yeah, nice. I kind of got that hot world, but it's just, he's just amazing. So is that one of the like, is there other voices out there specifically that you gravitate towards?
I tend to find sometimes I can just be drawn in by a piece of music just because I'm like, the voice is just incredible. That's neat, doesn't it? Like she's my new obsession at the moment. I don't know what's happened. Like I've never, I've never had an idol before. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm actually going to write a letter to her. Oh, that's awesome. I want her to like take me on and I want to be like her understudy and stuff. I'm serious.
I am honestly going to keep track of this situation as it unfolds because that. It was funny. Like I like I was talking to someone and I was like, you know, I really want to write a letter to her. And she said it was a great idea. But then I was like, can I miss faith? And I was like, yeah, but I bet thousands of people she's never going to like pick up on me or whatever. But she was like, you never know though. I'm like, weird things do happen in the world.
If you just take the risk and do something that is not actually that crazy. But for me, it is. Yeah. Well, it's a, it's a, it's a, you miss 100% of the shops that you never take. So why not for the sake of sitting there and writing a letter? You know, I don't know. I don't know what it's like. It's like I'm going to meet her or something like I'm like so nervous about writing this letter. Like I generally am. I'm going to do it.
Get it written and send it because like we say, you don't know what the response will be. It'll be wicked and you know, as a, you know, as a, as a front woman. And I know as a frontman like, you couldn't like literally make some ones day with that sort of thing. So, you know, she, there's she might reach out. What's the nicest things a fan? What's the nicest thing a fans ever said to you? We get a lot of people that find like a lot of sort of positivity in our message.
And like just, I think people like just to be able to look at the people that come to the gigs. They're all quite like the cool dudes. Yeah. I think Matt Welsh says like he would happily go for a beer with any of our fans. Yeah. I mean, like is that kind of crowd? So it feels like it just feels nice. Yeah. What about you, Becca? Something I learned quite long ago. I remember when we were doing our first album. And I just remember like, well, I actually really want to do is just help people.
People to feel free from our music, because that's how I feel when I write it. And when I'm in the studio and like some days I'd be absolutely sobbing after like recording. So I just feel like this is going to do some good. And you've got to be careful what you asked for, because I remember quite a few times, which I had girls saying he draws something. So I want to get it tattooed because of your music. I've stopped self-harming. I'm not on that big, big things like this.
And I'm like, oh my God, I'm not trained to talk to these people about these things. But I put that out there in the universe. And that's what I wanted our music to be was some sort of safety net for people. And sure, sure enough it is. And I just hope that our fans can go on the same journey as what we're going through with life. I kind of want, I kind of see our fans to be like almost like a gang thing. So where I'm in my life, I want people to be on that same track.
I'm not necessarily getting good, so I want people to be feeling in light and good. And that's what I want to do. It's an ethos that I can feel spreading amongst quite a lot of the music industry at home. And I welcome it. I think it's wonderful to see. You want to be dark. You'd be dark in your career on all hail and say, you know, whatever, but I'm part of the enlightenment group. And that's the way I want to go.
But I mean, I want people to feel easy and breezy and like so that we can do anything. Do you know what I mean? They don't have to give this all to the devil type thing. I guess I guess sleep is a bit of a half and half of that. Yeah. Because we have like a lot of positivity and the messages always like that kind of I, but then we just love metal as well. So you get a bit of that and then we're just throwing like a really every section. Here's a filthy roof. Yeah. That's what you do. I hope so.
I hope so. Hey, you're listening to the throat podcast and we're catching up with Beckle Mac and Tyre from Marmazez. I will never forget. I remember when we went. You guys just like you guys just amazing and lost you are such an incredible. And you do have. You do have you have this amazing stage presence. It's just like you've got this power and people people want to hear you because you it is coming from a good place. You know, I don't I don't keep doing what you've been doing.
That's all I'm saying. Because people love you. I don't know what to say. It's really nice to be to say though. Yeah. It's nice to hear. It's nice to hear musicians talking to each other. Nice. After a joint. Yeah. After a joint. You know, I'm not. Can barely see. What was it a five key run and five. I just literally had a couple of little dogs. And that's done him. Be careful out there kids. It's strong. You know, brilliant. How about you guys in your band?
You just like you prefer the big venues or are you just like we'll play whatever whenever. We don't give shit. We just turn up and do it. It's always been one of the five. I'm not. I mean, it was kind of one of them from the time because you played a bunch of festivals. You don't know if anyone's going to come watch you or not. And then you've got what your headline shells, which are always super incredible. But yeah, it's going to be. Everything's going to be so different. That's a thing like.
It's kind of not real to even like. It feels like it's never going to happen. But. I'm confident it will. No, no. Do you know what speaking of festivals. I, I, I, I, I followed your career. Through the stages of leads festival. I remember seeing you play the BBC introducing stage because I got into radio through. Through Alan Raw. And I watched you play in the BBC introducing stage. And then the next year it was like, oh, there, I think it was like festival public.
Because you just worked your way up and up and up and up. And it was really nice to. To. It's rare that you get to see. Like the full journey of a band. From. More or less. Right at the beginning to write through to those. But that must, that's what must be so exciting about doing the radio and what you do with. It's sure. Cool. Yeah. You, you know, it's your job to research bands. Yeah. And like. See if you can find the next like cool, you know, cool band that's coming out as you feel.
And you know what. And you know what. And you know what. For all the practice and effort and focus you put in. Something that'll just come out of left field. Like where the hell did that. Come from. I wasn't keeping my eye on them. And then the next thing you know, they're all over radio one and they're. Yeah. Like it's, it's, it's such a weird game. This. Yeah. It's, it's really difficult to. To ping down. What it is that takes what it is that you takes it to make it away.
I think that that's the way the. You know, music industry is now. You know, with the like people can judge your band that they click of a button now. Whereas when I started singing and shouting me out of. You couldn't do that. The only way you found out about the band was to go to a live show. So if anyone caught wind of your band, they'd have to go to like a local show. Whereas now everything's straight on the internet. So that, that bottom like grassroots show level.
Where people just turn up is, is you can have people you might have like no one. Yeah. Or like hundreds. You can have. You know, a million players on Spotify and they've never even played a live gig. You know, that's the way that you can. You can't. And out these days, which is what you will, which you're taking, which you're taking on it. The transformation in the music industry, especially over the course of last, what? 10 to 20 years. It's been astronomical. It's difficult to.
It's difficult to keep up with what is going on like the. The best way to think the show so much. Yeah. It's just like it's just like the whole world. The how just quick, quick money making. I think there was this period where there was. I know when we started coming through, there was this real authenticity within the music industry. But it's soon enough it quickly got overtaken by just like actually, we know what brings in a lot of money. And it is these kids that. Do as we tell them to do.
You know, I mean, that have shit loads of talent as well. But I've found like the biggest artist at the moment, people that I don't listen to. And they're just really smart about the way of keeping on top of the time. And it is just a really business. And I find it really hard because I can't connect that way. And I'm just going back to like old school stuff, like something to aunt, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, she does, you know, gig after gig and Vegas. And she knows how to make money.
But there's something real about her. So that's my personal view on it. Well, Becca, thank you so much for taking the time to have a quick chat with us. It's been lovely to catch up and learn about what's going on with you guys and your beautiful daughter. Yeah, it's great. And please try another record. 100 songs. Like it's not like we don't have any. Sick. We're just, yeah, we're just making that case. I can't wait to hear it. It's been some demos so you can listen to some stuff.
But it's so impressive to see how on it like you guys have been and stuff. I was like blown away when I saw all the stuff that you do and it's like. We were quite, we were quite lucky in the way of we kind of finished up our tour and for the year when we were exactly the right time. Yeah, we were planning to be writing. So we miss like five shows and we were planning on getting into studio and doing a bit of a rioting anyway. So we were already sort of cooking that up in that mind.
And then we were all just screaming. So yeah, yeah, when I saw how much use of done in the last few months. I felt ashamed. Honestly, I was like, my God, they have put in so much effort. No, but like just to see it. What you've done is it's mind blowing. I can't even begin to imagine doing all of that that you've done throughout. Everything that's happened in the world over the course of the last few months. That's awesome about it. It's it's given all of us thought just like that.
Oh my God, we can do it. There's such it's amazing that you guys are doing what you do it and you know me and congrats, but at the same time it's like. But all of us as well to see what you're doing is kind of like shit like this is. I cannot do it too. So yeah, I'm glad you've done it. I'm glad you'd. You're ahead of the game. I think. Like we're not doing anything like crazy groundbreaking, but you know.
Our fan base is so absorbent and they really listen to what we have to say and for that you get quite an authentic crowd. You know, I mean, like when we put it in sort of, you know, this is how shit's going. And I think that's what the sleep society is. It's just a hover people that care. So it's just a. It's just a, you know, it's a nice community. But also it's like nothing crazy. No one I feel like bands. I think Marmos X could really benefit from the model that we've used in terms of.
Kicking it back up when you do and having a fresh look on. You know, we first look on the way that you operate. This is the thing we've spoken a second ago. If you need to, you might be like, we don't need to at all. But I'm just saying we've spoken a second ago about the changes in the music industry. The people that are really maintaining and keeping stuff going, embracing all of these new ideas and mixing them with the work ethic that you two have as well.
You know, it's like a really good combination. So it has given us some tools to be able to enable artists now more than ever to take back a certain element of creative control. Yeah. And we've got an interesting time ahead of us as a band because when live shows start back up.
You know, what how will that change things in terms of, you know, our network, our hope of people and, you know, what, you know, will ever shifts in that and, you know, we'll, we'll more bands being, I don't know, you know, it goes. Just say changes the dynamic of everything. We'll just make it up as we go along. Yeah, it's open for the best. Yeah, definitely. But no, thank you so much for joining us, Becca. It's been delightful to get some, some insight from your perspective.
And I think I speak to both of us when we're, when we say that we're very much looking forward to, to hearing any new stuff from, from warm as ex or from yourself. Well, how about that goes? Yeah. Thank you so much, guys. No worries.