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Thoroughly Considered

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A show about entrepreneurship, product design, and the ups and downs of running a small indie business. Hosted by Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley.
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Episodes

133: Inspired by Star Wars™

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the new Limited Edition, and then dive into the state of the union of their respective businesses. Then, as usual, some AI discussion to close the show. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Limited Edition 019 – Studio Neat Mark One Custom Program – Studio Neat Artifact (app) - Wikipedia Apocalypto - Wikipedia...

May 06, 20261 hr 1 minEp. 133

132: Clearing the Tech Deck

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about F1 on Apple TV, as well as some other lingering Dan’s Tech Corner topics. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Apple announces F1 details, and a surprising Netflix partnership – Six Colors HBO Max’s ‘Mad Men’ Vomit Scene Proves ‘Remastered’ Doesn’t Mean ‘Better’ | WIRED Create a Personal Voice on iPhone, iPad or Mac – Apple Support (UK) What I learned while cloning my own voice – Platformer Myke's Threads Post Dan's Threads Pos...

Mar 06, 202646 minEp. 132

131: Authenticity in Marketing

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the latest Limited Edition Mark One, and then have a long discussion about adding personality and authenticity into marketing efforts. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Limited Edition 018 – Studio Neat Craighill on Instagram BBC Radio 4 - Desert Island Discs, Sir Jony Ive, designer Jonathan Ive on Blue Peter - YouTube...

Feb 05, 202644 minEp. 131

130: Embarrassment, Then Relief

Myke is thinking of running a Kickstarter campaign, and wants to talk it out with Tom and Dan. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership

Jan 09, 202646 minEp. 130

129: Get the Customer

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how their Black Fridays went, and the various marketing strategies they deployed. Then, Dan can’t resist re-introducing the iPad vs laptop discussion, with a new angle. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership

Dec 05, 202555 minEp. 129

128: The Biannual Gift Giving Guide

Myke, Tom, and Dan each share three items they think would make excellent gifts. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Always Pan – Our Place Carbon Steel – Made In Cookware Titanium Cookware - Professional Collection - Our Place Green Bell G-1008 “Takumi no Waza” Nail Clipper — Tools and Toys Thoroughly Considered #83: The Last Detail with Adam Lisagor - Relay Sonos Era 100: The Next-Gen Stereo Bookshelf Speaker | Sonos SoundLink Flex Bluetooth Speaker (2nd...

Nov 19, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 128

127: Replace the X with an A

Myke and Dan share some thoughts on the new iPhone lineup, then Tom joins the show to chat about the new Studio Neat Patch Club design. Then, Dan proposes a new old camera design for iPhones. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership PITAKA Apple iPhone 17 Skins & Wraps » dbrand Studio Neat Patch Club – Patch 003...

Oct 16, 202548 minEp. 127

126: Ten Years

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the 10th anniversary of recording this very podcast, as well as some recent Studio Neat launches such as Keen, the rose gold color, and Mark One with a clip. Links and Show Notes: This episode was recorded before the September Apple event. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Thoroughly Considered #1: Introductions - Relay Obi - A Smart Laser Toy for Cats Cracker Barrel reverses course and will scrap new logo after intense backlash | US news | The G...

Sep 11, 20251 hr 2 minEp. 126

125: Pikachu Phone Cases

Myke, Dan, and Tom are back to chat about the Glif returning for sale, the Seneca mechanical keyboard, Jony Ive and io, Liquid Glass, and revisit a longstanding discussion on merging OS platforms. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay Membership Glif – Studio Neat the Seneca – Norbauer & Co. How to build the best keyboard in the world | The Verge Steve Jobs explains why computers are a bicycle for the mind: “We humans are tool builders” - YouTube Rose-Gold-Tinted L...

Jul 08, 20251 hr 15 minEp. 125

124: Tariff Talk

Myke is back! We have a fun and breezy chat about how tariffs are affecting our businesses, why the Material Dock was discontinued, and then follow up on some past predictions. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership The Puzzle of the All-American BBQ Scrubber – Search Engine Peak Design Kickstarter The Kickstarter you backed may soon ask for more money to cover Trump’s tariffs | The Verge New Kickstarter Tool Helps Creators Offset U.S. Tariffs Mirrorless c...

May 08, 20251 hr 11 minEp. 124

123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa

Today’s guest is John Siracusa, the proprietor of Hypercritical.co and co-host of Accidental Tech Podcast and Reconcilable Differences. His object is the 2019 Mac Pro. Guest Starring: John Siracusa Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Mem...

Apr 15, 20251 hr 21 minEp. 123

122: The Last Detail with Chase Reeves

Today’s guest is Chase Reeves, know for his extensive gear reviews on YouTube. His object is the Rhizal Brio slip-on barefoot shoe. Guest Starring: Chase Reeves Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership RHIZAL Brio Slip-On / Clay / ...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 6 minEp. 122

121: The Last Detail with Austin Mann

Today’s guest is Austin Mann, a world renowned landscape and wildlife photographer. His object is the Really Right Stuff BH-40 ball head. Guest Starring: Austin Mann Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Travel Photographer - Au...

Feb 20, 202551 minEp. 121

120: Imbue All of the Choices

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Dan’s new guitar build, how Keen progress is going, and their business themes for the year. Then a Dan’s Tech Corner about All-in-One computers. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Thoroughly Considered #110: Mid-life Crisis Hobby - Relay Offset P-90 Build — Dan Provost Tech Talk - Relicing Guitars – Northwest Guitars Leo Fender - Wikipedia Keen – Studio Neat The Theme System Journal by Cortex Brand...

Jan 18, 202552 minEp. 120

119: Anti Alton Brown Corollary

Myke chats with Tom & Dan about how their Black Friday promotions went, using VR as a design tool, and then some product recommendations for Myke’s upcoming baby. (!) Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership The best tech and streaming gifts for 2024 - The Verge Gravity Sketch Apple, Sony Talk PlayStation VR Hand Controller Support for Vision Pro - Bloomberg Tripp Trapp highchair | Stokke...

Dec 12, 202459 minEp. 119

118: Sales and Discounts

Myke, Tom, and Dan give a Keen production update, before diving into a discussion about sales and discounts during the upcoming holidays. They close the show with a Dan’s Tech Corner. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Black Friday (shopping) - Wikipedia Cyber Monday - Wikipedia Early Bird Sale – Studio Neat Testing the Vision Pro With New Ultrawide Display Option in visionOS 2.2 - MacRumors Dithering...

Nov 15, 20241 hr 20 minEp. 118

117: Patch Club

Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the newly launched Studio Neat Patch Club, Keen assembly and shipping progress, and close the show with a Dan’s Tech Corner. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Studio Neat Patch Club Jony Ive's LoveFrom reinvents the button with Moncler - Fast Company Inside Jony Ive’s Life After Apple and His LoveFrom Design Business - The New York Times LoveFrom, And now… shipping! – Keen – Studio Neat...

Oct 18, 20241 hr 8 minEp. 117

116: The Last Detail with Jason Shellen

Today’s guest is Jason Shellen, an entrepreneur and the founding product manager of Google Reader. His object is the Patagonia Refugio 28L backpack. Guest Starring: Jason Shellen Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Patagonia R...

Sep 12, 20241 hrEp. 116

115: New Website

Myke, Tom and Dan chat about Studio Neat’s new website, and how Keen production is coming along. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Studio Neat Website teenage engineering store - teenage engineering Keyshot blender Fusion Screw Presenters | Mountz...

Aug 22, 202452 minEp. 115

114: Nothing but Corners

Myke, Tom, and Dan spend an episode clearing out the Dan’s Tech Corner backlog. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Crush! | iPad Pro | Apple - YouTube Apple apologizes for iPad ‘Crush’ ad that ‘missed the mark’ - The Verge MacPad: How I Created the Hybrid Mac-iPad Laptop and Tablet That Apple Won't Make - MacStories Apple Watch Series 7 reportedly has flat sides and bigger screens - The Verge...

Jul 11, 20241 hr 11 minEp. 114

113: I Wasn’t Expecting Therapy Today

Tom and Dan give Myke some updates on Keen production, and reveal how the color selection breakdown is going. Then, a long discussion about hiring some design and engineering help at Studio Neat. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keen on Kickstarter

Jun 27, 202450 minEp. 113

112: The Last Detail with Matthew Panzarino

Today’s guest is Matthew Panzarino, the former editor of TechCrunch, and current proprietor of TheObessor.com. His object is the Acronym J1-A. Guest Starring: Matthew Panzarino Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership J1A-GTKR-BKS ...

May 24, 202451 minEp. 112

111: With Great Power

Myke, Tom and Dan give a brief Keen production update, and then chat extensively about the ethics of product reviews. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keen – Kickstarter The Worst Product I've Ever Reviewed... For Now - MKBHD - YouTube Do Bad Reviews Kill Companies? - MKBHD - YouTube Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable - MKBHD - YouTube What Are These Companies Hiding? - Rabbit R1 / Humane AI Pin - Dave 2D - YouTube MKBHDs For Everything – Stratechery by Be...

May 01, 202449 minEp. 111

110: Mid-life Crisis Hobby

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Mark Two, Mark Two (nobody calls it that) and then discuss Dan’s new hobby. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Mark Two – Studio Neat Details on the Mark Two Changes Mark Three – Studio Neat Dan's Guitar – Threads...

Mar 21, 202439 minEp. 110

109: The Last Detail with CW&T

Today’s guests are Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy, the duo behind CW&T, makers of beautifully designed and artful objects. Their objects are the Manfrotto Super Clamp, and the Casio F-91W wristwatch. Guest Starring: Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. ...

Mar 08, 20241 hr 20 minEp. 109

108: Archibook

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the struggle to come up with a name for “Keepbook,” moving warehouses, and Apple Vision Pro. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keepbook – Studio Neat Nice Commerce Apple Vision Pro Sora...

Feb 23, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 108

107: Keepbook

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how the holidays went for their respective businesses, email marketing, their plans for 2024, and Studio Neat’s newest notebook, Keepbook. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keepbook – Studio Neat

Jan 12, 202453 minEp. 107

106: The Biannual Gift Giving Guide

Myke, Tom, and Dan each share three items they think would make excellent gifts. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Thoroughly Considered #89: Stretchy and Smudgy - Relay FM Thoroughly Considered #74: Biannual Holiday Gift Giving Guide(lines) - Relay FM Thoroughly Considered #56: Are We About To Do a Gift Guide Episode? - Relay FM YETI Rambler 10 oz Tumbler With MagSlider Lid Sonnet Mechanical Keyboard – Mode Designs Wera 05022640001 950/9 Hex-Plus Mul...

Nov 17, 20231 hr 13 minEp. 106

105: The Last Detail with Jeff Sheldon

Today’s guest is Jeff Sheldon, the founder of Ugmonk, creator of desk products like Analog and Gather. His object is the Fujifilm X100V. Guest Starring: Jeff Sheldon Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Ugmonk FUJIFILM X100V GF...

Nov 06, 202351 minEp. 105

104: Pearlescent?

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the new Limited Edition release, the final days of the Keen campaign, and then have a lengthy discussion about Jony Ive’s reported collaboration with OpenAI. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Limited Edition 009 – Studio Neat Kaweco Liliput Fireblue Fountain Pen Review — The Pen Addict Keen: A compact, durable, and retractable utility knife – Kickstarter AI Wearables: What’s New?. AI pin, tab, rewind pendant… | by Valerie...

Oct 05, 202357 minEp. 104
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