De Jontay Murray, Bruce Brown, Kyle Kuzma, and a very talented big man whose name you haven't heard much about lately. We're gonna get into all that as we dig into the latest from NBA Trade season. Here on the latest edition of This League Uncut.
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Hey, everyone, Welcome in to the latest edition of This League Uncut. Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes, Taping on a Sunday night. It'll be Monday morning by the time this episode drops. Where within three weeks, now less than three weeks to go until the NBA trade buzzer February eighth, three pm Eastern Time. That's when the deadline sounds. The buzzer sounds. Rather, we've already seen Oganaobi traded, We've already seen Pascal Siakam traded. But rest assured there will be
plenty more action. So Chris and I today what we came up with, we are going to do some trade deadline, give and go two topics each. I'm gonna put the ball in your court first, mister Haynes, because on Friday afternoon, you got everybody revved up. You did a live stream on Bleacher Report, and you reported that the Milwaukee Bucks are trying to barge their way into the chase for
de Jonte Murray in Atlanta. I think, with Siakam and n and Obi off the board, with all the struggles Chicago has had trying to find any sort of trade market for Zach Levine, de jontey Murray, you can definitely make the case that he is the most decorated player who is who would be classified as likely to move between now and the deadline. He is certainly more likely to move at this point than Levine, and I think he is also more likely to move than Jeremy Grant
in Portland. The signals from the Blazers to this point, anyway, have been that Portland is not very interested in fielding pitches on Jeremy Grant. So you know you've been saying, you've come on this pod multiple times here in recent weeks, you said you thought Dejante Murray was going to be moved. You said you thought Siakam was going to be moved, and that happened already. Do Jon Tay Murray? Do the
Bucks have any chance here? The question I have really is, you know, Atlanta is known to want two first round picks at least for to Jon Ta Murray. That's what they're hoping to recoup after they traded so much to get him. Can the Bucks manufacture two first round picks to become a factor in this chase?
Yeah, the only way, you know, I've heard that. As well as far as what Atlanta is seeking in return, you have to remember what they gave up to get de Johonte. Again, that was a different regime, that was before Landrew Fields took over as general manager. But they got let me see, they gave away three first round picks in a first and a first round pick swap in that deal, so they're not getting that back in return. So you know, I was told as well, it's going to take at least to first and I was told
also a quality place layer. So with that being said, the Bucks do not have the picks. So if the Bucks were really serious about getting engaged in trying to acquire the John Ty Murray, it's going to take some assistance because because they do not have the picks. Now you can make the case that maybe they have a quality player that Atlanta might find attractive. But now it's the tall order of finding those picks. Where do you go? Who has that, who can help facilitate? And I think
that's where the Milwaukee is at right now. Again, I when I when I brought up Milwaukee, there is nothing to the sentiment of their being dialogue where they're exchanging offers and nothing. It hasn't gotten to that point. But I do know for sure Milwaukee has reached out and expressed interest and trying to see what Atlanta wants to do the like because of them moving to Johntay, things of that nature. So I wouldn't dismiss Milwaukee just because
they lack the picks right now. They're they're calling for a reason, and that's that's the start. But I do think Steyn to piggyback on what you said, I feel pretty strongly about the John T. Murray being moved before the deadline. I would echo that.
And I guess, look, the reason that the Bucks would be interested is pretty clear. I mean, they are just not defensively what we've seen in recent years. Damian Lillard has certainly given the offense a gear it didn't have before. But with no Drew Holliday there, they are struggling defensively in the backcourt and something they need to address.
Yeah, I mean they're struggling all over the over the board, but yeah, they they will. They do require a point of attack defender. And when you look at the names, you know, we talked about the John Tay and you know there's a there's a lot of guys out there that fit that mold. And I know we're playing this game, but allow me Steyn to just throw out some names
out there that that could help Milwaukee. You're talking about somebody like Alex Caruso, talking about somebody like Dorian Finney Smith, talking about somebody who we're going to I'll let you get to that. I won't bring up his name, but we get to that when you when you come about but uh, somebody like Matisse Stible. So these are all names out there that are circulating that that has some links to the Milwaukee Bucks as being that guy that they can plug in to be that point of attack defender.
So they definitely look need help and I will say this stein Milwaukee is being very aggressive about there. That's what I've heard. They're being very aggressive and surveying the market, seeing what's available, seeing what players are available. So they're John Horst, the GM over there with the Bucks. He's he's working those falls for sure.
And that's probably, I guess the most important takeaway here that we know the Bucks are obviously limited what they have asset wise, after all, they gave up to trade for Damian Lillard, but the realization that they do need to make a move, they still need more. The way this first half of the season has unfolded, yes, the Bucks are incredibly potent offensively. Yes, as an offensive duo, Damian Lillard and Gianna Santetokumpa have a very high ceiling.
But even though the gap and the standings between Boston and Milwaukee is not significant, not that significant, clearly the Bucks feel like they need something else in season to make sure that they can get out of the East.
Because Boston has been tremendous. Philadelphia has not made its major post James Harden move yet, but the Sixers are right there and now even the chasing pack in the East is tougher given that Indiana has just upgraded significantly by bringing in Pascal Siakam and giving Tyrese Haliburton a max player sidekick. Cleveland has been fantastic, resilient to really hang in there without Garland, without Mobiley. They've weathered their injuries and you know they're still in the mix for
a top four seed. The Knicks look better since getting Anonobe. We know the Heat are always on the prowl. So you know, the whole East at least the top half of the East ladder with Orlando still at number eight as one of the surprise teams in the league this season. But the East overall one to eight is better than it was. And so just the fact that the Bucks are so aggressively looking that does say something.
For sure, give me a name that you're hear as far as who you think could be moved, or just give me a name that you think, well, give me a name and what you're hearing about this particular player that could be dealt by the trade.
That line, well, look, since the Siakam trade and Toronto made the trade when it did for multiple reasons. On one level, the Raptors, they did the deal with Indiana because I think they realized that they weren't going to get a stronger offer anywhere else. The Pacers were very motivated to bring in Pascal Siakam. They had the leverage to do it without including guys like Benedict Maturin and
Jarris Walker, Jalen Smith Andrew Nebhard. It was a deal for the Raptors to be able to acquire multiple first round picks. But they got Bruce Brown in that deal, and they knew that if they got Bruce Brown with three weeks to go before the trade deadline, which is basically when they acquired him, they knew that they could potentially trade Bruce Brown on his own and potentially recoup further assets, which would certainly change the way that the
Raptors are being graded for this trade. There is so much talk in Toronto, and Messiu Jerry sat the other day for an hour taking every single possible question from the Toronto press pack because Massiu Jerry's getting questioned louder than he ever has since he's been running the did you hang on to og Anobi and Pascal Siakam and Fred van Vliet too long? These are the questions that Messiau Jerry is facing louder and more frequently than he
ever has. But again, we might have to reevaluate how we grade this trade and the Raptors haul for trading Pascal Siakam might look different if the Raptors can get another important asset or two by moving Bruce Brown before February eighth. So that was my long winded intro to the Bruce Brown situation because I wrote about this on my sub stack on Sunday. What I'm hearing is the Raptors are telling teams they want at least a first round pick and a quality player in exchange for Bruce Brown.
And what is motivating the Raptors to pursue that kind of asking price is their belief that multiple contenders want Bruce Brown, and with that very trade friendly contract that he has, he is very movable. The Raptors cannot aggregate Bruce Brown with any other Raptor between now and February eighth. They can only trade him on his own. But Bruce Brown is making twenty two million this season next season is a twenty three million dollar team option. It's just
like the Evan fourty A contract in New York. So basically a team can trade for him, and if they want to avoid the cap hit completely next season, they can. So the question is who will ultimately trade for Bruce Brown between now and the deadline. I think the expectation around the league is that there will be another trade that he would be on the move, and I do think there are multiple contenders interested. I'm not even sure
we know them all yet. The Lakers and the Knicks have been mentioned the most frequently, but I think the field will expand, and the Raptors certainly believe that if they're expecting to get a first and the player as well. We'll see if in the end they can actually meet those lofty ambitions.
The way it was explained to me starying on Bruce Brown's that the Raptors are receiving an apt normal amount of calls regarding bb Now, that that which is amazing considering the fact that, I mean Bruce even said it himself last free agency he really didn't have a market, you know, before he went to before he signed with Denver. He I forgot how he said it. I'm paraphrasing, but he said nobody wanted me. And now now he's in a situation where team, some teams feel like he's the
difference maker. He's going to be that guy that that puts them, puts him over the top, push them over the top, I should say. And so, uh, kudos to Bruce Brown for just improving his game, stick sticking with it and have in the market. Now, now with that being said, Bruce Brown is also a guy that you know, we're talking about the Milwaukee Bucks point of attack defender. That's him. It doesn't you know, it doesn't get any better than the the than the skill set of a
Bruce Brown. And so I would be he's another guy I would be surprised if Toronto kept I think they won't have a problem at all getting a first and a player of value back in return. I don't see, I'll be surprised. Again, I haven't. I haven't heard anything concrete outside of the Lakers and Knicks interest, but I know there's a lot a lot of other teams that have that definitely have reached out and I think Toronto, again, Toronto won't have any problem getting what they want to return.
Bruce Brown is that hot of a trade candidate.
Well, it's interesting with the Knicks, you know that they were a team that was interested and Brown in the summertime, but now you know they have again. They've since since the Siakam to Indiana trade went down. The Nicks have been mentioned frequently when it comes to Bruce Brown.
To me, Stein, before you say that, before you go any further, I did want to say this I have. I was told the Denver Nuggets would love to have Bruce Brown back, But again, they're in a similar situation like Milwaukee where they just don't have the picks. They don't have the picks to try to do that, but they Bruce Brown knows how they feel, is what I've been told. So that's something to keep an eye on, even down the road. Not even talk.
I've heard the same thing that Denver would absolutely love if there was a way, if it was in any way feasible, Yeah, for them to try to get Bruce Brown back. They would love to do so. But when you look at the Nuggets contract situations, it's just hard to see a feasible pathway for them to be able to trade for him now without messing with their their rotation.
I just don't think they can do it. And back to the Knicks, Yes, they have had interest in him in the past, but the Knicks have really been looking for a scoring guard since they were forced to put Emmanuel Quickly in the og Annobie trade. And so to me, again this is this is not this is more analysis than reporting. This is my observation of the situation. I did report last week that the Knicks are a team
with interest in Jordan Clarkson. That part is reporting. To me, a pursuit of a Jordan Clarkson or a Malcolm Brogden would make more sense for the Knicks than trying to get Bruce Brown, because again I think they are looking for some backcourt scoring punch to try to replace, to replicate in some way what Quickly used to give them.
And so I do wonder. You know, the Knicks have one of the strongest reserves in the league in terms of trade assets, so they can get in the trade mix really for anyone they'd like to, depending on how serious, how far they want to go. So I imagine with all the winning that Utah has been doing lately that Danny Ainge has regained some leverage when it comes to Jordan Clarkson.
Colin Sexton, who's been great as a starter for the Jazz, Kelly Olynnick if anybody wants any of these Jazz veterans, it's going to be costlier than it was when this team was seven and sixteen compared to the five hundred team they were entering play on Sunday. But yeah, I'm just my senses. The Knicks need a scoring guard more
than they need Bruce brown particular skill set. And then the Lakers, you know, the Lakers thought they were going to be leading the chase in free agency for Bruce Brown, and then that's when Indiana, you know, the teams chasing Bruce Brown were mid level exception teams. The Lakers probably win that race if Bruce Brown was only commanding the
mid level exception last summer. But then all of a sudden, Indiana came in with salary cap space, and that just has to go down as such a smart trade because not only did they manage to outbid the competition with a year one salary for Bruce Brown of twenty two million as opposed to twelve million in the mid level range, they tacked on that second year where it was a team option, which made his contract so tradable. And the Pacers that was such smart business for them, the way
they handled Bruce Brown's free agency last summer. We'll see, now if the Lakers decide, you know what, Bruce Brown is the guy we should go for. Is Bruce Brown more gettable? Is Bruce Brown available at a price that's more palatable than it would be for the Lakers to try to make the run at de Jontay Murray. Because when it comes to the Lakers trying to get de Jonte Murray, to me all right, we know the Lakers do not want to include Austin Reeves in that deal.
The Lakers are pretty much all but treating Austin Reeves as untouchable. Even if the Lakers are prepared to use their last available first round pick in an offer for Dejontay Murray, it's basically impossible for them to do that deal without including Di'angelo Russell. And my senses, the Hawks really aren't interested in DiAngelo Russell, and I don't know that even with a Laker first thrown in, are the Hawks going to be willing to take a deal that's
built around DiAngelo Russell's contract. So making a play for Bruce Brown it might be easier for the Lakers than trying to win the race for de Jontay Murray. All right, in this trade deadline give and go. Now, I pitch it back to you, who is the player or team whose trade situation you want to get into.
It could be a big name and could hold significance next season. But I'm going to tell people about the Portland Trailblazers. They are There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is he's out for the season, had another
surgery on his right knee. But teams feel like he would be somebody that can get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabing, and and hopes that next season he would be he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we've seen when he was playing at at a high level with the Boston Celtics. And so you know that is a scenario that could play out. There are teams, are a couple of teams that I that I'm not quite ready to reveal.
I want to. I want to make a few more calls, but I know there are teams that are pondering making a deal, trying to trying to make a deal with the Portland Trailblazers to get Robert Williams where his market value is just not what it what it used to be, so they feel like this is a good time to make a move in hopes that it can work out for that for that team and Robert Williams in the future,
as early as next season. So that's something that, yeah, something that won't you know, won't be a big significance in the short term, but long term very well could be.
Well tell me this. I know you said you can't reveal the teams that you've heard could be interested in such a trade scenario, and I understand that you've got more reporting to do before you can identify those teams. But do we have any sense about the Blazers and how willing they would be to actually trade Robert Williams when he's out for the season and by all accounts, we're not going to see him until next season.
Yeah, the Blazer will be very open. That's that's not up for debate. They'll be very open if they feel like they can they get the right deal in place. You know, they're they're open. The Blazers as we as we know they're they're in the youth movement right now, so they have they have nothing but time on their side. And you know, some players don't fit the development arc of most of the the youth they have on that team. So Robert Williams is somebody who is definitely available given
the right price. And now I will say this, em Uduka is has always and still remains very fond of Robert Williams. And so I wouldn't be surprised if if Houston could be in a mix for something like that. No firm reporting on that, but just knowing he may, knowing the relationship he has with Robert Williams, how he how he feels about him still to this day, wouldn't wouldn't be surprised if if if Houston, you know, went out there and tried to try to make something happen.
So maybe down the road in a in a in a in a podcast very soon I have more firm reporting on what I'm hearing on Robert Williams.
All right, sounds good. We'll take that.
All right, Stein, give me your final guy team player, what you got.
I want to talk about Kyle Kuzma in Washington, a player who I've always rated very highly, not that my rankings really factor in much here. But I think kuzma situation is incredibly interesting and bears monitoring, not just now before this deadline, because he might not move in this transaction window. But Washington resigned Kyle Kuzma to a really good value contract ninety million over four years. This is
year one. Kuzma's in the twenty five million range this season, but the value of the contract descends, it goes down all it goes all the way down to nineteen million in year four. And he is. I think he could be such a product, active player on a good team. We've seen that before in stretches with the Lakers. You know, obviously I'm not I'm not gonna pay too much attention to what's going on with a really bad Wizards team. You know, he's not gonna win Defensive Player of the
Year playing in Washington. I think that's clear. But he is he can do a lot of things on the court. I think Kyle Kuzma is a much better defensive player than he's given credit for. And I know I reported this on my sub stack Sunday as well. I know that the Mavericks have inquired with Washington about Kuzma's availability. I reported that on my sub stack as well on Sunday. I know the Sacramento Kings remain very strong admirers of Kuzma.
And though when you think about those kind of teams, you know, Dallas has Luca and Kyrie, Sacramento has Darin Fox and Demonta Sabonis. Pascal Siakam, who was in the market for a max contract and by all accounts is going to get a max contract from the Pacers or something close to it. He's a very expensive player to add to your team. But Kuzma on the deal he's on, I mean that deal in the current marketplace, in today's NBA is an absolute bargain to me because of how
productive and how versatile Kuzma is. And that's why the word is the Wizards don't just want two first round picks for Kuzma. The way it was framed to me is they want picks better than what Toronto got and the Siakam deal. And the reason the Wizards think they can get that is because Kuzma's on this deal, this four year deal that is so much easier to plug into a team payroll than it would have been to trade for Siakam when he's had a diffree agency and
is looking for a four year max. So the Wizards do not have to rush. The truth is, it's not just Kyle Kuzma. Daniel Gafford and Tias Jones are also generating lots of interest, and I would expect the Wizards to be patient here. They maybe one or even two
of these guys, maybe all three. It is. I don't want to say it's impossible that we see these players traded before the trade deadline on February eighth, but the Wizards absolutely have to maximize the return that they get for a Kyle Kuzma, for a Daniel Gafford, for a Tias Jones. Remember last June, the Wizards traded Bradley Beal and Chris Stops Porzingis and did not get a single outright first round pick in either trade. Yes, they got some pick swaps in the Bradley Beal trade, but the
Wizards had no leverage. Bale, of course, had the only no trade clause in the league at that time. Porzingis was gonna just he had an offer from Utah. He could have gone to Utah in free agency, and the knowledge that the Jazz had interest, is what enabled him to force the trade that ended up happening with the Boston Celtics. And so Washington traded away two former All
Stars and got back no first round picks. You know that the Wizards want to make up for all the first rounders they didn't get when they had to send Bial and Porzingis away. And so I'm gonna that's something I think, besides the Jonte Murray, besides Bruce Brown, I think that's one of the most significant stories that we really need to watch here in these last two plus
weeks before the deadline. Will anyone out there come up with the draft capital needed to satisfy the Wizards and pry a Kuzma, a Gafford, or a Tias Jones away.
From them m And again regarding Kuzma, they want a return that was loftier than what Toronto got for Pascal Huh.
And the re And here's in.
Terms of get the reason yea, in terms of picks.
Because look, the Raptors got three first round picks, but two of them are in this coming draft, which the twenty twenty four draft is much maligned. So getting two firsts in the twenty twenty four draft doesn't really wow people. They did get a twenty twenty six pick from Indiana, that's I believe top four protected. But the draft capital that Toronto got in the trade has not been treated
as some absolute Rudy gobert as call. And that's why I think the Raptors are so excited about this ability to maybe do something with Bruce Brown in the next two plus weeks so they can make the overall package they got for Siakam look better on paper than it does right now.
Hmm, okay, I do want to say something. I want to go back a little bit Portland. We're talking about Portland. You brought up Malcolm Brogden. He's somebody to look out for as well at the deadline. I do want to say this Stein on my last I believe it was my last Bleacher live stream I did where I had use of nurkice.
On your second guys, second.
And last, thank you, second and last. I have Phoenix Sun centered use of nurkice on and y'all go look that up. I haven't seen it, Stein said he can. You can go back and go on VRS page and
go look at my interviews on my live streams. But I had nurkice on and I reported prior to Nurkish coming on, and I reported about the Suns out there in the market for a defensive wing, for a Ford type player, and Nurkis came on and I told Nurk and I said, yeah, I just reported about you know, the Suns, this is what they're looking for, looking for athletic for that's what they're looking for. And they're not
in the market for a point guard. And I told nurk that, and so he started talking, you know, he started talking about like, you know, he can see that, he can see the need for that. But then he brought up Brogden by himself. He said, but if there's somebody like Brogden as available, I don't know how you can't try to go after him and try to get him. Y'all might want to check that out. I'm paraphrasing what he said. But he brought up Brogden out the blue.
Wasn't even asked about him, didn't ask about him. I didn't say anything about him. I didn't even mention the point guard. Again. I was reporting about the Suns feel like they don't need a point guard because they got so many players that need the ball in their hands, and they don't want to take the ball out of
their three stars hands. When you're talking about Devin Booker, Bradley Bill and Kevin Durant, and then Nurkish just unprompted say hey, yeah, but if somebody like Brockdon is available, I don't see how you don't try to go after them. So I don't know if you know, I don't know if that's saying much. I don't know if that is. You know, the front office may have its own obviously, they have their own, their own idea of the front office. I don't think so. Last last time last I saw,
I think his title was center. That's the last last I saw. The title was center. I don't think there was no front office title. Uh, but it's still it's still interesting, intriguing to hear from a player's standpoint, somebody who's in the thick of it kind of hear what they feel like they need. So y'all go check that out when y'all get a chance.
Well, I think we've at least covered in this time together. We've found a way to mention numerous players who are being talked about as the trade deadline approaches. We've discussed a bunch of different scenarios and introduced some new trade ideas, and we will do it again. You and I will get together very soon, and I'm sure we will continue to talk trade deadline. Remind me, what is your what does your TV slate look like this week? Where you headed? How many games do you.
Have just this week? I have one game this week, but it's a very spicy, very spicy game. Going back to La Baby Tuesday. Clippers Lakers.
All right, well, something tells me, Clippers Lakers you will. When it was thunder at Clippers last week, you came away from that with a notebook burst with Jim, so I fully anticipate the same when you return from time in that Clipper huddle with your guy Russ Lakers. Lebron's got the special towels that no other player in the NBA has. I remember that from his Cleveland days. He has these industrial strength personal towels with him on the bench.
So I have no doubt that, even though it's only a one game week for you instead of two in terms of sideline assignments, by the time we do this again, and I'm guessing it will be probably a Wednesday night taping. Will pencil that in. You will have no shortage of material to share with us.
No, I'm looking forward to it excited, and you know you know how much I love La so very much looking forward to But stein before you close, I want to say something. I got a little bit of a confirmation on the last story I told in our last episode about how I like to go when I was a kid, how I would go into restaurants and I would go to the restroom and check out the restroom, see how nice and tidy the restroom was, and that would determine.
To be before you say it, before you say anything else. So last week, after we ended the show not our last show, we ended with ten minutes of urinal talk. That was enough you felt you felt like you needed to bring it back for one more.
I said yes, because I got confirmation. I am not alone. So anyway, as y'all know, I have a great host when I do my Bleacher Report live streams. Her name is Page You probably most people probably know her as that sports page PK. Before we did our live stream, she said, Chris, I listened to you guys' podcast, and she said, I have a friend who does is today. She would go into the restroom today, not as a
kid when I did it. Today, she goes into the restroom and she checks it out, and that gives her some type of inclination or a feeling of how the food is going to be. And just like I did, she said, most oftentimes if the restroom is clean, the food is good. And so she felt she felt very strongly about sharing that with me, Stein, because she didn't want me to feel like I was alone, like I was alone in this world, out of place, like I was an odd ball. So she confirmed that for me.
She said, there's a lot of other people like that, and so I wanted to share that with people who might have thought, why is Chris sharing his secret? Why is Chris doing this? I'm doing it because there's more of us out there, and I want us to all to stand proud. And that is it. Stein.
I'm somewhat speechless. I was never questioning your strategy. My only two questions about it were a why this was such a focus for you at the age of six, seven, and eight. I think in adulthood, I in adulthood I would understand it more so. I'm not disputing the methodology of it. It was really more that it took over your mindset at such a young age, but really just that you were like that, you felt that a ten minute chunk of this league uncut should be devoted to
this topic. That was really more my curiosity.
Well, Steve Bamber, you have to remember Steve, Steve Bomber opened the door he raved about the urinals. No, you're right, so I can't.
I cannot dispute that. Ye, now that we talked, Now that we've talked about it on two straight episodes, I think we're done.
I think we're done. I think we put until until chapter.
Until the first time you or I go to the into It dome and then.
Oh for sure, Oh no, it's coming back. There actually no back there.
You said on the last episode. The most important thing you said on the last episode was that Steve Balmer wants to come on the show.
You say, oh, come on for sure?
All right, So we gotta we gotta stay on that after the trade deadline and see if Steve Balmer will come on. I might just have to mute and let the two of you guys just take over, since I you know.
So, let me apologize. Yes, So we have at minimum, and I won't say minimum, we have max two more episodes within the next two in the next seven or eight months, of which Urino's will be brought back up, because it will be brought up when we have Steve Balmer on and it has to be brought up when me and you fishlely a visit into it dome, because I have to see if the fuss is really what has been worked up to be. That's it two, and that's it two for the rest of twenty twenty four,
and you won't hear no more talk from me. That's it all right.
We will hold you to that promise, and we will try in our next episode to bring it back and keep it focused on the on rushing NBA trade deadline. That will do it for this edition of This League Uncut. As always, if you haven't already, please follow the show, Please rate and review the show, Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. You heard it directly from mister Haynes. He'll be on the sidelines for TNT Tuesday Night Clippers
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