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This Working Life

You spend so much time on work, why accept the status quo, when there are ways to do it better? Get expert advice, research and hacks that will crush your inertia. Join Lisa Leong and other This Working Lifers as we experiment and explore the latest in the world of work.   We cover policy issues, like hybrid workplaces and remote work, employee wellbeing and organisational culture, the use of AI, employee surveillance, employee engagement, diversity and inclusion. We talk about progress on wider issues that relate to work, like work life balance, organisational change, restructures, and casualisation. On This Working Life our focus is on everything related to the people in a workplace too, including culture, individual experiences, performance management and career advice.
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Reinvent your career in 2026 with Dorie Clark

If you’re feeling stuck and ready for a change, why not harness the momentum of the new year to turn that around? Whether it’s a new job or a whole new career, Dorie shares her approach to help you figure out what’s next, and how to make it happen. Guest: Dorie Clark , Top 50 business thinker and executive education professor, best selling author, Reinventing You: Define your Brand, Imagine your Future

Jan 25, 202625 min

Lost hope at work? Here’s how to get it back.

When work feels difficult, practising hope could help you find a way forward. A former chief wellbeing officer at Deloitte shares evidence-based strategies for developing hope that will improve worker wellbeing and performance. Guest: Jen Fisher, workplace wellbeing expert, author, Hope is the Strategy

Jan 18, 202625 min

The power of a good night’s sleep

Four in ten Australians are not getting enough sleep, and work could be a part of the problem. Whether you work 9 – 5 or irregular hours, lack of sleep impacts performance, safety and can compound work stress. So how can you balance work responsibilities and sleep? Guests: Dr Moira Junge, CEO Sleep Health Foundation, Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor, Monash University Dr Charlotte Gupta, Senior Postdoctoral Research Fellow, School of Health, Medical and Applied Sciences, Appleton Institute, ...

Jan 16, 202625 min

Stuck at a career crossroad? Here's how to move forward

Career regret is a common phenomenon, with more than half of people recently surveyed expressing dissatisfaction with their career choice. Why do so many people have career regret, and what practical advice can help those who are at a career crossroads? Guests: Leah Lambart , Career and Interview Coach, resident career expert for SEEK Annie Louey , celebrant, comedian and writer who has experienced and interviewed others about career breaks This episode was first broadcast on 30th May 2025...

Jan 09, 202625 min

Can "leisure-crafting" help you thrive?

Pick something you enjoy doing and you can 'leisure craft' it! We learn about the benefits of this technique as a way of improving your personal wellbeing, and your performance at work. Plus we'll give you some practical tips on how to 'leisure-craft' in Try This. Guest: Alex Hamrick , Assistant Professor of Management, Robins School of Business, University of Richmond This episode was first broadcast on 2nd May 2025...

Jan 02, 202625 min

Tired and overwhelmed? Boundaries can help

If you have a tendency to take on too much, you might want to look at the boundaries you have with your co-workers and your boss. It seems hard, but setting boundaries could improve your life, and your work as well. Boundaries expert Nedra Glover Tawwab teaches you how. Guest: Nedra Glover Tawwab , therapist and author of New York Times best seller, Set Boundaries, Find Peace This episode was first broadcast on 21st March...

Dec 26, 202525 min

Are we giving kids the wrong career advice?

In helping young people prepare for a life of work, asking them what they want to do for a job, or what they’re good at may limit their options. Learn a different way of thinking about careers that focuses on challenges, rather than job titles. Guests: JP Michel, organisational psychologist and author, The World Needs You: A New Mindset for Career Exploration Kate McBeath , who works with career advisors in schools in Australia and New Zealand This episode was first broadcast on 7th March...

Dec 19, 202525 min

Learn to 'North Star' 2026 with Wankernomics

Have you been bamboozled by the language colleagues use at work? What’s the best way to describe yourself on LinkedIn? Charles and James from Wankernomics want to help you use more buzzwords, so you can move into upper management. James Schloeffel, Chief Disruptor and Strategy Optimisation Evangelist, Wankernomics Charles Firth , Customer Engagement Jedi, Wankernomics...

Dec 12, 202525 min

How to optimise your holiday and start 2026 refreshed

Should you lie on the couch or go hiking with friends? Discover what to do before, during and after a holiday to get the most out of it. Experts share the best ways to fully recover from work stress and offer practical tips to make that post-holiday glow last longer. Guests: Stacey Parker, Associate Professor in the School of Psychology, University of Queensland Ty Ferguson , Research Fellow in the Alliance for Research in Exercise, Nutrition and Activity (ARENA) research centre at the Universit...

Dec 05, 202525 min

A non-compete clause ban is coming. What does it mean for you?

Almost half of Australian workers are impacted by some kind of post-employment restraint. The government plans to ban non-compete clauses for middle and lower paid workers. But how do you strike the balance between an employee’s right to move jobs and a business’ right to protect their commercial interests? Guests: Paula McDonald, Professor of Work and Organisation, QUT Centre for Decent Work and Industry Charles Cameron , CEO Recruitment Consulting and Staffing Association of Australia and New ...

Nov 28, 202525 min

Is your lack of people skills holding you back?

If your career progression has stalled it may be because you lack emotional intelligence and the ability to regulate your behaviour in the workplace. A Harvard Business School expert says the key to great leadership is understanding yourself so you can manage others, and she’s helped thousands of people do it. Guest: Margaret C Andrews , managing director The MYLO Center , author of Manage Yourself to Lead Others For a copy of Margaret’s Six questions for Self Understanding Worksheet, email us a...

Nov 21, 202525 min

Transfer, recall, repetition: what helps you learn at work

What are the best ways to learn at work, and how can you make that new information stick? Understand the science of learning and how online courses and workshops can be designed to optimise motivation and opportunities to practise. Guests: Michelle Ockers , Founder and Chief Learning Strategist, Learning Uncut Ryan Jesson , cognitive scientist, School of Psychology, University of Queensland...

Nov 14, 202527 min

Are you on the path to burnout? These are the red flags...

New research has uncovered early warning signs of burnout that could help you get on top of it, before it goes too far. Learn strategies to identify these signs, recover from work stress and prevent burnout. Dr Ben Searle , organisational psychologist, consultant and researcher Luke Martin , Senior specialist and clinical spokesperson, Beyond Blue For more details on Ben’s Recovember Challenge follow him on LinkedIn or visit his website If you or someone you know needs mental health support, cal...

Nov 07, 202525 min

Westpac work from home decision: what does it mean for you?

A Westpac employee with parental responsibilities was recently awarded the right to work from home five days a week, by the Fair Work Commission. How might this decision affect business hiring practices, and the working conditions parents are allowed by their bosses in future? Guests: Dr Giuseppe Carabetta , Associate Professor of workplace and business law with the UTS Business School Emma Walsh , CEO Parents at Work For more information and free resources for small organisations visit https://...

Oct 31, 202525 min

How to fix loneliness at work

Have you ever turned up to work and thought...where is everyone?! Empty offices and flexible work is part of the reason why so many people are experiencing work loneliness, but it's not the whole picture. We explore how organisations can diagnose work loneliness and build more connected workplaces. Guest: Connie Noonan Hadley , organisational psychologist, Research Associate Professor, Boston University Questrom School of Business and Founder, Institute for Life at Work. And big thanks to "Jade"...

Oct 24, 202525 min

Top books for work and life

Lisa is joined by Panio Gianopolous, co-founder and editorial director of the Next Big Idea Club , as they each nominate three non-fiction books related to work that have changed the way they work and live. Tune in to Radio National’s Top 100 Books countdown, Saturday 18th and Sunday 19th October from 1pm. Or catch up anytime on the ABC Listen app. Panio’s picks: The Work of Art: How Something Comes from Nothing by Adam Moss Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Ca...

Oct 17, 202525 min

Restructure and redundancy, with psychosocial safety

How can reorganisations, restructures and redundancies be managed in a way that works for everyone? With obligations to manage psychosocial hazards now front of mind, this process has never been more important. Guests: Melinda Bell , partner at Norton Rose Fulbright in Melbourne Leonie Green , founder and consultant, Conscious Workplace Also check out our related episode Your role is being made redundant, now what?...

Oct 10, 202525 min

Should you bring your 'whole self' to work?

There are lessons you can take from the careers of David Bowie and Oprah about identity and authenticity. Being “authentic” in your life and career is something we’re told to aspire to. But can that be taken too far? Dr Tomas, Chamorro- Premuzic , Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University, author, Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is overrated and what to do instead Julianna Pillemer , Assistant Professor of Management and Organisations, NYU Stern Sc...

Oct 03, 202525 min

Try This: declutter your work from home space

Need help organising your desk or kitchen table workspace? Get decluttering tips that will help clear your mind and your home. Guest: Amy Revell , decluttering expert For more on the psychology of decluttering, check out the All In the Mind episode, Is clutter making you feel bad?

Sep 29, 202514 min

Validation is a skill for work and life

When you validate someone, it shows that you’re there, you get it and you care, even if you don't agree with their point of view. Learn the difference between validation and praise, and how you can use the former to strengthen relationships and build influence at work. Guest: Dr Caroline Fleck , licensed psychologist, corporate consultant and author, Validation: The New Psychology of Influence

Sep 26, 202525 min

The power of gossip at work

Whether you approve of it or not, research shows gossip does have value within organisations, especially when it’s used positively. Learn how you can harness gossip to improve relationships and communication with colleagues. Guests: Amy Gallo , workplace expert and contributing editor, Harvard Business Review. Author, Getting Along: how to work with anyone James Greenslade-Yeats , Research Fellow in Management, Auckland University of Technology...

Sep 19, 202525 min

How to nail collaboration between generations

Learn how to build co-operation rather than war, between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Baby Boomers. Instead of leaning on stereotypes, there are ways to work to the strengths of people in teams that include multiple generations. Guests: Megan Gerhardt, Professor at Farmer School of Business, Miami University and co-author of Gentelligence Florence Potter, founding director, No umbrellas...

Sep 12, 202525 min

Are you learning how to switch off from work?

We've reached the one year anniversary of the right to disconnect regulations, which now also apply to small businesses. What are the challenges of managing this change to the ways we contact each other outside of work hours, and how is it impacting work life balance? Guests: Anna Volkova , People and Culture leader, Hi Bob Matthew Addison , Chair, Council of Small Business of Australia (COSBOA) Lisa Heap , senior researcher and labour lawyer, Centre for Future Work, Australia Insitute And thank...

Sep 05, 202525 min

Could longevity workers save our economic future?

Soon more people will be leaving the workforce than joining it, but most organisations don't encourage older workers to stay on and thrive. Experts say redesigning work to retain mature-age workers across the life cycle is part of the solution to Australia’s ageing population and productivity challenges. We explore how planning for "longevity work" across the career cycle, can help eliminate bias and ageism well before workers hit retirement age. Guests: Daniela Andrei , Associate Professor in t...

Aug 29, 202525 min

Try This: psychosocial safety tips edition

Everyone at work plays a part in preventing psychosocial hazards, including you. We ask an expert how to create a psychosocially safe workplace, and why it's important. Guest: Dr Laura Kirby , chief psychologist, Australian Psychological Services Check out our companion episode: What are we getting wrong about psychosocial safety? , featuring Professor Amy Edmondson from Harvard Business School and Dr Rachael Potter, research lead and expert in psychosocial safety, Uni of South Australia....

Aug 26, 202513 min

What are we getting wrong about psychosocial safety?

There’s confusion about the terms psychological safety and psychosocial safety in workplaces, so what’s the difference? Leading expert on psychological safety, Professor Amy Edmondson, and researcher Rachael Potter explain. Plus, are Australia's regulations around psychosocial hazards making a difference to workplace safety and productivity? Guests: Amy C. Edmondson , Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School Dr Rachael Potter , research lead specialising in psychosoc...

Aug 22, 202525 min

Making decisions like a pro

It’s estimated we make up to 35,000 decisions every day so how can you make better decisions at work? Before you start drawing up pros and cons lists, listen to this episode to hear how you can make decisions with less stress and a lot more satisfaction - from small everyday ones, to big ones like changing career. Guests: Dr Ellen Langer - Professor of Psychology, Harvard University. Author, The Mindful Body. Dr Janneke Blijlevens - Senior Lecturer in Experimental Methods, RMIT University Dr Adr...

Aug 15, 202525 min

Managing up during the Trump Presidency

We can learn a lot about gaining influence when you don't have power, from those who work on Capitol Hill. A leadership adviser reveals how Congressional Chiefs of Staff navigate a volatile political environment, with challenging bosses. This is a masterclass in how to manage up and build relationships that can further your career. Guest: Margie Warrell , Leadership advisor, author The Courage Gap

Aug 08, 202526 min

Is your dream job still dreamy?

Have you ever been told that if you follow your passion, you’ll never work a day in your life? As it turns out, the research doesn’t support that narrative. We explore what’s really going on with passion at work, and discover how to sustain and nurture it over time. Guest: Jon M. Jachimowicz , Assistant Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School Thanks to Renata, Yin and Melissa for sharing their stories and advice....

Aug 01, 202525 min

Try This: grief at work edition

It can be hard to know what to say when your colleague or employee is going through a difficult time. We explore how to support someone who is dealing with grief. Guest: Tasha Broomhall , founder and Director of Blooming Minds Also check out our companion episode: How to handle grief at work

Jul 29, 202514 min
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