#607 - Young Amish Male

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All right, sitting here with an Amish dude, basically. Yeah. And you're 100% Amish. 100% Amish, born and raised. I can speak Pennsylvania Dutch, still Amish, and still living at home. Pennsylvania Dutch, it's called? Yeah, so Pennsylvania Dutch is like a dialect of German. It's quite a bit different from German. It's quite a bit different from German, you said? Yeah, but it's a dialect from it.

So if someone would be talking like, like German, you can kind of understand them, but like most of the words you can. Okay. Yeah. So do people, like, do your parents speak German and Pennsylvania Dutch? No, just Pennsylvania Dutch and English. And would your grandparents possibly speak German or your great-grandparents? No, they were all Pennsylvania Dutch, so. Okay.

understood but it's kind of a branch of it's a lot of the people there have german lineage yeah they do like i think every every amish is like swiss german because most of them came from that area. And funny thing is, in school, like on Fridays, we learn, like, so that's basically the day where we read German, spell German, and...

And also every morning in school we also sing like three hymns out of a It'd be a little book with like red pages where we sing German hymns out of now The funny thing is, like, I can kind of read German and I can spell German, but I do not understand, like, the German that I'm reading and spelling.

Some of it I can, but most of it I can't. So you can comprehend a little bit, but you couldn't really then recite it. Yeah. Well, because sometimes for, like, Christmas and stuff, we had to, like, there was also a Green Sherman book, which... when you're in lower grades, like fifth and under, you read out of that, where there's like bigger paragraphs in the back, where it's all German, and sometimes for like, well most, every time actually, for Christmas and stuff, we had to...

learn memorize all of those and I guess I wasn't the greatest because I I kind of I guess lost interest for it if I if I didn't understand it I guess oh yeah Yeah, that's probably ADD or whatever. Do they have ADD in the Amish community? Do you know what is ADD? I'm not even quite sure. Oh, wow. ADD, it's like, let me think.

You ever have that feeling like when somebody's tickling you or whatever kind of? Yeah. And you're like, you just can't even handle it? Yeah. It's like that feeling, but it's like in your brain kind of when you're trying to pay attention. So it's like you're paying attention doesn't work, you know? Oh. No, I don't think anyone has ADD that enough. I hope not, because that wouldn't be too fun to have.

Oh, yeah. I think it's like, yeah, you get to change your mind without even doing it, you know? So if you drive a car, if you have ADD, so can you focus on the road or you're like... looking over to the ditch and then this car and the guy in the pipe, like the passenger seat. I think it gets a little bit testy for some people. Like it's too much, you know? Yeah. Pull that up. Do the Amish have ADD? Pull that up.

Let's get a gander at that. That's a great question. Yeah, I've never heard of ADD before. Then you must not have it brother. The Amish do experience ADD, but reported rates are noticeably lower than in the general population, and diagnosis practices may differ significantly due to cultural and lifestyle factors. Wow.

That's pretty fascinating. When you're born in Amish country, are you born at a hospital? Are you born at home? What's it like? That varies a lot, too, over the last...

probably 15, 10, 15 years. A lot more I've been born in a hospital. I know there's some... people in our community all of them were born at home half of them were born at home and then also some were born in the hospital now me and my all my brothers we were all born in the hospital so okay it all varies varies from family to family most of the time um

are you allowed to use like municipalities, like a hospital and like a public park and those sorts of things? Like where does the line differ between if you're Amish and you just straight up supposed to be at the house, you know, like using chalk and just eating butter, you know, out of each other's hats. And then the line where you're supposed to be able to, like, go to public parks and go to, like, non-Amish events and stuff. So, like, me going to your concert, like, that would...

that would not be, like, keep that on the down low. But some Amish, I know some Amish, they go to, like, Def Leppard concerts and when they're, like, around my age, you know, like, 80s rock, that Amish, like, that Amish that... Like, party and stuff. They like 80s rock. They do? Country. And then, I'm not sure how you call them music, but it really bumps when you turn it all the way up. That 80s rock? No, it's like some... I wonder if it's like... It's like...

Like, boom, boom, boom. Is it kind of darker artists? Do the artists... You mean like the Suicide Boys? Oh, Suicide Boys are great. No, it's not the Suicide Boys. It's more like David Ghetto. uh i think i said david guetta yeah oh i see what you're saying oh like uh edm house that sort of stuff i i don't never know know what you call it but yeah if you turn that stuff all the way up it really shakes something like if you if you have like

The big, like, stereo system in, like, a building, that building started shaking. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. And the Amish, they really feel that. You can really feel your barn raise when you hear that, huh? Oh, yeah, but, like... That stuff we only do on the weekends. That stuff is kind of like, nah. That's secret. Yeah. Hell yeah. Do the Amos listen to Morgan Wallen ever or no?

Uh, yeah, dude, I have a buddy, actually, my coworker, Atlee, he, he lost Mark and Wallen and he's, he's in room springer too. So he wants to go to his concert one time. So that, that would be fun. you know i thought your concert was pretty cool too the music that they played in the beginning yeah i've never really heard that music before

But I was like, I was jamming out to it. And it was really, really fun. Thank you, dude. Yeah, we play a lot of times at our shows. There I am right there with your hat you brought to me. That was in Seattle. In the beginning of the shows, we play a band. It's called New Orleans Jazz Vipers. And it's just like some good kind of jazz New Orleanian music. I think it puts people in a mode of like they're going to, you know, some type of artistic like brain.

space instead of just some, like, music you hear all the time, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's like, I was, I was kinda surprised. Like, or not really surprised, but I never really, I never really heard that music before. Yeah, it's great, man. That's a great band. I've, I've, uh, I happened upon them in New Orleans a while back and ever since then I've just enjoyed listening to them. Yeah. So that's their horns and stuff.

Yeah. Wow. And that's what makes all the great sounds. Yeah, they do a great job. Do you guys have instruments in your Amish village? Is it called a village? So it'd be considered a district. A district would be like different parts of church because there can be one big community, but there can be like four to 12 different districts of like...

The church where the rules are a little bit different here and there, but like mostly because we call a community. A community. Yeah. So the areas you live in kind of delineate where you go to church at?

Yeah, kind of. Can you go to any church or if you live in a certain area, you kind of go to a certain church because it's close? in the area you always if damage moves somewhere it's usually for a certain church in a certain area and we don't have church like houses and stuff like not like some i've seen like like really big churches they were like

They went almost like up to the sky and stuff. Yeah, they got some churches that are trying to do a lot. They're like, do you need all that? Yeah, like those things are really high. So all of our church happens at... At our homes. Oh. Yeah. So we take turns taking church. So different weekends, different families will take church? Yeah. And another thing that Dalmish do is...

we have church every other weekend. So how it works is church here and then that gives them... enough time to you know move church to the next place then you have to pick up all the books pick up all the benches and then move it over to your place you also have to make all the food and then people people come and help you

I see. So it's part of the culture is like, it's kind of exciting when you get to have church at your place because then everybody's coming there. Yeah. Well, it, it, it can be, but it also, it's a bit of like, oh man, churches. At our place, we gotta get ready. Oh, we gotta clean up. Yeah, we gotta clean up, get ready. Be on our best behavior. Yeah. Trim the cat.

Well, our cats actually stay in the barn because the Amish don't really have cats in the house. Dude, our cats, they're like self-sufficient. They're kind of Amish too. But we put dog food there. I think they might sneak a little bit of that. I could see some of them sneaking a little. Sometimes I see cats coming up the pasture. They got like a chipmunk or a bird. I don't think they're big enough or fast enough to catch a squirrel.

I am alarmed at how many regular people, what do you call regular people, non-Amish? So if we're talking English... We call regular people English people. Okay. But if you're talking in Pennsylvania Dutch, if you want a literal translation of it, we call them hojilat, which a literal translation is high people. But what it means...

What that means is like... People that are allowed to get high. That are non-Amish. But we have like a neighbor. That guy's from like Australia. Like, I think it's called Land Down Under. Like... Yeah. Basically where all the kangaroos live. Oh yeah. There's kangaroos, sharks. There's definitely, there's just people that'll drink beer. There's a couple of Down syndrome guys down there who drink beer out of the oven. That's crazy. And I even saw some guys like they, they drink.

They take off their shoe and they like pour like, like some stuff in their shoe and drink it right out of. Yeah. It must have special feet or something. Yeah. I think they must have, uh, look at these guys right here and they're Australian.

oh well what are they doing look at this he pulls a hot beer right out of the oven whoa that's pretty cool he starts chugging it at one point he doesn't care oh but these guys are australian oh wow so they're they're you know they're a bit shorter too yeah a lot of rugby head-to-head that'll keep your spine down yeah especially if you're like i thought if you'd be upside down like on the bottom side of the world your spine would like go

not these guys wow i think they missed a uh they missed a column dude l5s none dude these guys missed something yeah um sound like that um so non-amish people you call them ho ho ho ho healers Ho-hi-ler. Ho-hi-ler. There you go. You're almost Amish now. Oh, welcome. You're welcome. It's not offensive though, Ho-hi-ler. No, no, no, not at all. That's, that's a, it's a...

It's not like Damish don't see it as offensive. It's just a term to describe something like our horses, you know, some are standard bred. You know, and then some are brown, some are black. We even have some, like, white horses with, like, black spots on them. Oh, yeah, we're getting a lot of that. Outside of Atlanta, we get a lot of that. Yeah, where's Atlanta? Atlanta, have you heard of it? Oh, Atlanta, like, Georgia? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I've heard of it. I've never been there. I heard they like, that's close to where like the Dukes of Hazzard were made, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is actually. I love the Dukes of Hazzard. I do too. Yeah. I use Sefa. The DVD player, I don't have it anymore. I used to have a little DVD player. Really? And then, yeah, I watched a little bit of Dukes of Assert. But the only bad part was the DVD player. It was before I had a battery and stuff. I had to go charge it somewhere else.

Before I had a bat, like, all prepared, you know, that way I don't run out of power. I used to watch them a lot, because us Amish, we have the ones that are in Romspringa, we have, like, uh...

We have DVDs and stuff. My coworker, Atlee, he's pretty stacked when it comes to DVDs because he's got, like, a drawer full of, like, all kinds of movies. Is he allowed to have it or not? Not really, but, like, his... Like, his parents, I think they kind of know, but they don't bother. Got it. But he had some different things. He had Dukes of Hazzard? Yeah. Well, I don't know if he had Dukes of Hazzard, but he had, like, lots of other different ones.

like smoking the bandit like grumpy old man oh yeah well those are those are really funny i think he's like he wants to get her like fast and furious too oh he's trying to get wild huh yeah like He's pretty crazy. It sounds like it if he's trying to do all that. That's a lot. What about Little House on the Prairie? You guys ever watch that? I've seen a little bit on that. A couple hotties on there. Yeah, like the ones...

They almost, you mean like Laura? I mean, that's a child, but I mean, yeah, I don't even know. The mom. I'm talking about the mom. Oh, the mom? Yeah, Carolyn. Oh, yeah. She's cute. Yeah, kinda. But isn't she like really old now? She's getting older probably. but who knows what could happen you know they're doing a lot of like

There's a lot of biohacking and stuff now. But I'm just seeing a lot of beautiful ladies on here. Yeah, definitely. And now with this something in Amish culture, if you see these dames, these young ladies, is that something you're attracted to growing up? Because they almost have like a little bit of an Amish feel.

to them yeah what do you mean like a like uh like a settler like would this be a girl like if you'd have seen this when you were 12 or something and you look at mary ingles right here the older sister you'd be like oh she's cute yeah i would and that's okay yeah that's okay okay

Yeah, I'm just curious because we grew up watching this and it was great. They're remaking this right now. They're making a new season. That's pretty cool. I know. Dude, that one guy has white hair on his beard. He must be getting old. Yeah, that guy, he's actually, I think that guy's deceased, but you mentioned being on Rumspringer, right? Yeah. So you're on Rumspringer right now? Right now, yep. Okay. How does Rumspringer start? How long does it last?

Who gets to go on it? Okay, so pretty much everyone goes on it now I've I've heard of where like families like didn't let their kids go on it But like that has happened but like they don't when that sometimes when that happens like the kid just lease and like he becomes becomes english and oh because they feel they can't they're not allowed to that the family's not following the rules no that everyone can go in room like room spring everyone does it every single now

Every single community that does Romspringa, they usually go on because what happens is around 16, 16 and a half, you go, you join Romspringa, which we call the Yoma. The yuwa? Yeah, which basically means, what was it? Like young people. The youth? Yeah, youth. There you go. That'd be a better word for it. So you're picking up. The yuwa. Yep, the yuwa. Makes sense. Yep. So...

That's when you go to like sing-ins after church. Now, I never really went to one because when I went on Rumspringer, the church was kind of already going down. because our church kind of it's kind of split up now actually our bishop kind of he kind of booked out he kind of decked out so no yeah so right now there's there's we still have church but it's like only like an hour like hour and a half and

And so there's a lot of Amish around us. They're still Amish, but they're not a member of the church anymore because when it opens, and the Swartzen Trooper Amish— Wait, wait, wait. When what opens? Like, so when the church— doesn't come to agreement for a while. And then it's kind of like a rule that they have to open the doors and then whoever wants to go can, you know, get out of the... no longer be a member of the church and doesn't require to follow the rules. That's only when you're...

Like, joined the church already. Okay, so members of the church, if the church is, if for some reason there's some problem within that church where they're not able to, like, maybe obviously there was a problem with the bishop you're saying? Well, like the... Like, the people in the community and the bishop and, like, there was— There was an argument? Yeah, they were not agreeing on the same things. Okay, understood. So there was a disagreement. Yeah. And so the bishop left. Yeah, well—

That is actually, this is a very rare thing to happen. The bishop just, like, it was a month, it was probably over a year of, like, this stuff happening, but it was usually, like, the smallest things, and I think it, like, annoyed some of the... like the people in the congregation yeah like some of the some of the members because I know I know if a guy like they came to his house because he's certain because his the curtains on his window were like not the right shade of blue or

Or even the reflectors on the Buc-ee's. Because our Buc-ee's don't have that many reflectors. Not compared to like Buc-ee's in Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania. Because they got like that big... Big reflector plate? Yeah, like that triangle thing on it. It's flashy, huh? Yeah, it is flashy.

And yeah, we don't have that reflection. Actually, go to the left, that Bucky that's white horse. One more, right there. Yeah, right there. That's yours. That's how our Bucky's look like. And there were, there was, what was there? reflector on the front or the back of a bucky like that, and they didn't like that. So the bishop had too many reflectors on his buggy? No, like, the members had too many reflectors on their bucky, and they got after him for that. Oh, the bishop got after him for it.

yeah like the bishop though the bishop doesn't even live in this community he lives down there because our bishop before he actually actually died in a house fire so no yeah like the whole the whole house burnt down and how what happened a candle i don't know i don't think it was a candle i think i think it was something with a stove in the wash house and this was a hot fire it was 20 it was 20 below and this hot fire

I was told it was hot. And maybe it wasn't 20 below, but it was definitely 10 below or so. The fire just kept burning? The fire just kept burning, and when the people came out, they were like... The people in the red, the people like, what do you call it? The firemen? Yeah. They had to like keep the water running so their hoses wouldn't freeze. It was really cold. And his wife actually survived. And apparently when she came out, it was so hot, she just laid on the snow.

Like she was fine for a little bit, but she had like, she had a little bit of burns and stuff like that. Do they think she started it or no? No, I don't think so. I guess we don't have insurance. Like we don't have life insurance and stuff. So. I think it was an accident, but that wouldn't be too funny if she like

Thought she had life insurance? Yeah, that would be, wouldn't that be like illegal? Between the hojile, that happens all the time. The hojile are always killing their spouses for insurance money. That's not very nice. That's like, isn't that murder? Yup. That sure is. And dude, not only is it murder, but it's murdering for money. But I guess if you don't have life insurance, you don't have to worry about it.

Yeah. It's kind of nice. Yeah. And so go ahead, kill me. You won't get anything. Yeah. That's kind of the idea.

Yeah, so, yeah, Damish, like, Damish, like, back in the wars, I think the government tried to force us, like, to go to wars, but we're, like, pacifists and stuff. Like, yeah, we'll, we'll, like, wrestle and stuff when we're younger and, and... And then also sometimes maybe I argue, but other than that, like we don't like kill each other. The Amas are pretty peaceful. Yeah. And then, yeah, cause back in like the wars and stuff, like...

We just did like all the cooking and the cleaning and saving people too. Is that true? Let me read that right here. World War – the Amish were subject to the military draft in U.S. wars, but due to their religious beliefs as pacifists, they were usually classified as – She inches objectors and assigned to noncombatant or alternative service roles. World War I and II, Amishmen were drafted, but most received farm deferments or performed noncombatant services. Some were sent to army camps.

and suffered abuse when refusing military service entirely, and in rare cases, some were imprisoned for refusing all forms of service. Yeah. Like, the Amish, and where the Amish came from, like, they went through a lot of stuff. there's a there's a book actually where the Amish came from was like from the Anabaptists like those were all like those were like the

Like the OGs. They came all the way from the Catholic Church. Really? Like the OGs you're saying? Yeah. Did the Amish have to fight to establish themselves in America? That I'm not actually very sure, but I know like when... When, uh, like, when back, I think it was back in the 70s, I think.

that they had to fight like court and stuff I think they went through a lot of like court stuff but like for that stuff I think they did but also like the government also agreed because this is like a free country and stuff and um

While not armed struggles, the Amish sometimes faced legal and social battles, especially regarding education and their right to practice their faith freely. Notably, in the 20th century, they opposed laws that would force their children into public high schools, sometimes resulting in

imprisonment or property laws for Amish parents. Wow, so they've had to fight to maintain their way of life. Yeah. So there must be a lot of pride. Is there a lot of pride in being Amish? It varies from community to community, but yeah. There is pride in being Amish. Like, we don't believe in being prideful, but that's, like, something, like, you feel good about. Right. See, it's a little bit different than being, like, being, like, um, egotistical about. I guess. And just having some, like,

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Do Amish people have to go to public school or do you go to your own school? We go to our own school. Do you have a schoolhouse? Yeah, we have a schoolhouse. I sent pictures of the schoolhouse to that white building. So the building in the front there, that's where all the horses kept. Now, since I'm more kids, we had to build another little shelter for the horses.

That was down there. Oh, for the horses? Yeah, for the horses. I thought you meant the cheerleaders or something. No, we don't have cheerleaders because that would be like... They're like... Like, they barely wear clothes and stuff. It looks like they're in their underwear. It's too much. Yeah, I've never loved a basketball game so much that I got in my underwear for it. Yeah, that's right. That's a bit odd. And, like, even when they go to the beach and stuff, like...

They're just in their underwear. Some of them get dressed up more for the beach even. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, like they get more dressed down. Yeah. Yeah. But so you go to school there, you put your horses in the front building? Yep. Okay. And does everybody have their own horse or sometimes people come in groups? Yeah, like one family usually has one horse. And then like we have building, like a building. And then like one through eighth grade.

it's like we all sit in there then so that's all in one room and then there's usually one teacher so one year we actually had like 25 kids and like one building that was like the most we ever had and then and it varied from year to year so like we started out with like 10 and then as it went up 14 16 20 and then 25 and then it kind of slowed down like came down from there but yeah like first

That's where I went to school, first through eighth grade, and everyone's sitting in the same room, and then we have classes too. Is it pretty cool? It can be if you make it, but I didn't really like school when I went to school. And when does the school day start? So that's usually, if I remember right, it was like 8.30, I think. 8.30, school starts. And then we sing like three, four hymns.

And then that usually lasts 15, 20 minutes. And then we start reading, reading classes. And then it depends on the teacher. Some like to go from eighth grade down and others like to go from first grade up. So and then after that, it's... It's recess, like 15 minutes, and then usually arithmetic classes. And then we'll do arithmetic until lunch, which is like all around 11.30. And school goes out.

like only only for a little bit for like an hour do you go home for lunch or no uh no no we we pack our lunch we eat at school we sit at our desk and eat and then usually that takes like around 20 minutes 15-20 minutes and then we go out and play different games and we play like uh what was it oh yeah we played we played a game that we call rapid it's where

Like the animal rapid? Rabbit? Yeah, like rapid. And then, so what you do is there's a person in the middle as a ball. Like Easter? Like that little, like an Easter? Yeah, like a bunny. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we call it hoasa. Hoasa? Yep, Hawassa. Hawassa. That's the Amish word for rapids. Rapids. So we used to throw the ball out, and if someone threw it... So it's kind of like that. I got to get better at explaining this, but it's kind of... You're doing good.

So it's kind of like dodgeball. You have two bases on each side and then there's a person in the middle. He's got like a ball. Sometimes we used to basketball. Sometimes we used to tennis ball. Tennis ball was like my favorite. Because you could throw it better and it wouldn't hurt as much if it hit you. Okay. So you're supposed to throw it up five times. And if you throw it up five times and no one runs through to the other base, then you can go on one base and count.

to basically do a countdown and then if no one goes off of that base and goes through before you're done you can just even though they're on base you can go touch them and you know get them out oh they can actually physically catch them yeah we catch him and take him down and but would this would this be a game boys would play with boys uh everyone everyone would play the teacher would even help too so really yeah so like it depends on like it depends how rough like the

the harder you tried to get away i guess you were you accepted the roughness and you were basically run through and try not to get caught and then you then someone takes you down on the ground you crawl you crawl for the base it's like it's almost like vietnam and stuff i've never been there but no but no we've seen pictures we all understand exactly what it was like yeah um That's unbelievable, dude. So that was a popular game. Wrap it. Wrap it. Like the Easter bunny.

Yeah, wrap it. Yeah. And then what did girls do? Did they play this game? Or what did girls do were definitely girls? Like some girls played this game, but what did like the real girls do? The real girls always, like we always were together. Like we always.

We always helped each other. Oh, everybody played the same stuff. Yeah. But like when it was like a rainy day or something, like sometimes we play board games and then not as much. But most times like we all played with each other because we didn't know stuff yet. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because we don't get taught that stuff in school or anything. Like, what do you mean? Like, about girls and...

We don't really know too much about each other, I guess. Oh, so everybody's just kind of, like, just all the same. Yeah, we're all kids. Oh, you're all kids, yeah. Yeah. Are you allowed to flirt at school? Like, at some point, do people feel some attraction? Like, do you think, like... Ah, maybe. Maybe, but...

So the school I went to, I couldn't really do that because pretty much everyone I went to school with was either the first or second cousin. Oh, I feel that, brother. Yeah. So, yeah, it's like...

It's a tough world. It is, brother. And, you know, that's why we got to do some of this redistricting and rezoning. Yeah, we got to like rezone, like move out, move in. That's what a lot of Amish been doing around us and moving out to different communities, I guess. it's a good thing then you can you know you know spread the family tree because sometimes the tree becomes a bush yeah

For sure. Like intertwine with each other. The Amish population experiences a strong founder effect meaning that their gene pool originates from a small number of original settlers. Most Amish people are distantly related because nearly... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. among Amish than in the general U.S. population. Do you guys have, oh, this says cousin marriage. Marriages between cousins do occur. Not first cousin. Second cousin does. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

For sure, buddy. But that, like, it's not really, it's not really, uh, like, uh, forward, like, hey, you can marry a second, but, but it does happen. But if it happens, it happens. Yeah, it happens, it happens. You're already... Close, you might as well be closer. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know how, because we don't have like any family tree and stuff. You don't? No, but we do have like a big book that tells us like all Amish communities.

Like, in certain states, like, who, like, basically a dictionary for, for, like, Amish people who's related to who, and... Oh, you have that. Yeah. It's basically, like, Google for the Amish when it comes to, like, finding, like... oh yeah, this person's related to this, or how old is this person?

and it's even got their, like, addresses and stuff. Oh, nice. Yeah. It's like a book where you can go look and see who's who and how old. Yeah, and how many kids they have and when the kids were born, so that's pretty cool. Oh, yeah, right? That's kind of how it is.

But it's a little bit different than that. Okay. Because they put like, they like, they put like two different, was it two different names on the front? Like whoever like put it together and stuff. Got it. Because some Amish, like, like they know like. who's related to everyone it's like it's almost like they're like they're happy i guess i guess you could say and they they like they're happy no they're happy like happy like they're it's their oh it's their hobby Like H-O-B-B-Y. Like Rap It.

No. Hobby. Yeah, like hobby. Like it's something they like to do in their spare time. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. Genealogy, put it together. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you got to, somebody's got to know who's related or you got to be able to ask somebody. So could there be people in your school?

that are your cousin, you don't even know it? No, because everyone in the school, like, they drive there with a horse and bucky, so it's fairly cold because we have, like, let me think. I think it's, like, at least a half a dozen schools in our... In our like community. Okay. Yeah. And how do you decide what school you go to? Whichever you live closest to. That's it. Yep. Do they have like learn, like we're, they were talking about like.

Obviously, when cousins get together, things can get crazy. Yeah. And you might get one of the Lord's remixes out there. Yeah. Or disabled, they call out here in America. Yeah. Mentally disabled. Yeah. Autism, Amish-tism, I'm sure you guys are seeing.

in it well somebody will just raise a barn with their eyes you know just put a nail through a four by four with their just with their with the sheer just you know with just the blink of an eye i don't know we have autism but like we have like some with down syndrome yeah because my great uncle uh He has Down syndrome and stuff. Fuck yeah. Yeah, he's like 57 years old. And he's awesome, huh? Yeah, he's pretty awesome because me and him...

Uh, me and him, I don't, like, I, I just remembered that I carried, like, carried wood with him. Like, me and him carried wood into the, like, wood box for a stove, and I don't know why, but apparently I used to tease him a little bit, too. I kind of feel bad for him now. I thought, like...

i think i was like like six or seven years old i was really young oh it's okay you were just a kid man yeah you were just joking around yeah because i i thought i was having fun but but he could carry a lot of wood oh yeah he could carry a lot of wood yeah he was pretty cool and And he passed away? No, he hasn't passed away yet, but I heard recently he's like, he's not doing too good anymore.

But he's still surviving and stuff. But isn't that kind of old for a person with Down Syndrome and stuff? That's a great question, actually, Timothy. Let me look at that up. How old do the Down Syndrome get, if you don't mind pulling it up there? It might be because he's Amish that he's like... That he's clocking more time. Yeah. Because it's probably harder, probably a Down syndrome being out under the bright lights of regular life than it is. Out there just slurping in the moonlight. Yeah.

The average life expectancy for individuals with Down syndrome is now about 60 years, with many living in their 60s and 70s, thanks to advances in medical care and social inclusion. That's awesome. McDonald's was not be getting to them anymore. The McDonald's, huh? Yeah. It was real. Really hampering them. Well, there was a time when McDonald's, a lot of their employees had Down syndrome. Oh, really? Bring that up.

And then so it caused a lot of people to take people there with Down syndrome. So then they were eating all this McDonald's and it was like not good for them. No, it's like it was like backing them up. Yeah. But McDonald's was hiring a hella down. Wow. They had the whole. I never knew a place like that hired. Oh, yeah.

Especially now. Now there's coffee shops in America, and everybody that works there has Down syndrome. Shane Gillis owns one. He's a comedian. Wow. So, yeah, I heard Shane Gillis was around Dalmish, too, and he was...

When he's younger. Yep. He grew up around the Amish. He's famous. Some people said he has Down syndrome. Some people said he doesn't. Yeah. I don't know. We had a guy on who completed the Ironman, which was one of the biggest physical challenges in the world. And he has Down syndrome. Chris Nickich. Oh. Bring him up. What's an Ironman? It's like the toughest competition ever. Oh. There he is, right there. Wow. What are the conditions of an Ironman, just so we're clear on it?

is one of a series of long-distance triathlon races organized by the World Triathlon Corporation, consisting of a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bicycle ride, and 26-mile run. Completed in that order. Wow. Think you could do it? No, I'd have to, I'd have to like build three barns in a day and like...

Like run up and down to the house a couple times. Oh, you'd have to jack and gel a million gallons of water, dude. Yeah. Even if I had Down syndrome, I don't think I could do it. No. It'd be really hard to do. Like even though I'm like...

I think it'd even be hard for the Amish people because first we need to learn how to bike. Yeah. Yeah, because we can swim because, like, the rivers and stuff. Are you allowed to have bikes or no? Like, we can sneak them. Oh, you sneak them, huh? Yeah, but, like, the Amish over and, like...

Indiana and Ohio and in Pennsylvania they got like scooters and stuff uh-uh yeah they do it but they got like the low riders like the ones that are really close to the ground oh yeah the amish yeah the yeah that you like stand on and stuff yeah not the ones that you like sit on oh i see what you're saying yeah so not the motorized ones

No, not the motorized or the ones with like pedals and stuff. Yeah, they had one Amistad Oro Farming on one of these, I think. Oh, like was he doing it on the horse or like the scooter? I think the scooter. Oh. And they have a lot of Mexican Amish too now. The Amish, they call them. Yeah, I saw a couple Mexican Amish. I was like...

Because a couple of years ago, there was this Mexican-Amish guy. He popped up. He looked fully Mexican. He looked like he came from Mexico. And I think someone must have adopted him. It sounded like that. And he could speak like... Like he could speak like the Mexican language. And then he could also speak like Pennsylvania Dutch too. Hell yeah. Yeah.

I love that, man. Yeah, dude. And that must be the craziest if you're Mexican because then you're like, holy shit, I still have to do all this construction myself, you know? Like, if you're Amish Mexican, people expect you to build stuff faster than anybody. Mexicans and Amish, we go back and forth. We look who can build the fastest. If you have both? Yeah. Now, when it comes to sheetrocking, I have to say Mexicans are definitely faster because they got them long.

Like those metal things that I think they're called stilts. Oh, really? So they're good at sheet rocking. Yeah, I saw a video of them. They like held their tape measure and then walked over. And the one guy, real tall looking guy.

If he had, like, long legs. He was on stilts and stuff. He had almost touched the ceiling. What, um, tell me about this. When you go to Rumspringer, how do you go? Is there a day that you go? What happens? You hit what age, and how does it start? Uh, it's kind of just... It's kind of spontaneous when it happens. You're like roughly 16 and a half when it happens, and your parents are like, you can go, and then you kind of just...

Just go like one night. Do they sit you down at dinner and tell you? Is it like an announcement at school? Is it at church? How does it happen that they say we're going to allow you to go to Rome Springer? It's not really an announcement. It's just kind of like, hey, you can go there. probably have a couple rules, you know, don't do this, don't do that, but...

You're probably going to do it anyway. Really? Yeah. And so is there a moment that an actual day that you leave? Like, do you say goodbye? Oh, no, no. So when Room Springer happens and you go to Rio, like you still live at home and stuff. You're still Amish. And then...

You just do stuff on the weekends that you're not supposed to. When do you go back to your Amish country, though? Like, when do you go back to your district, to your home? So, when you're in Rome Springer, you're always at home, so don't, like, the, like... So what happens if you're in room spring for like, it's usually around four to five years. It always depends. And then.

So when you get baptized, it's usually when you have a girlfriend and then you want to get married. So that's the reason you get baptized is to get married. And then at the same time, you're also becoming a member of the church. Okay. So before, so you hit about 16 or something and your parents say that you.

You can go now. Yep. And that means on the weekends, you can go do what you want? Yeah, kind of. And if they don't hear too much about it, you're fine. Then you're doing fine. Yeah, because sometimes you can be like, hey, you can't go this time. Okay. Yeah. And now do some people choose to stay out in Rumspringer and not come back to the church? Do you have that option or that's not an option? Yeah, where like people like leave and become ex-Sammish. Yeah.

And that can happen. Yeah. And then when like Rome Spring ends, it's roughly around 20 to 21. That's usually when people get married. Or sometimes, you know, like all of a sudden they realize they have a kid. And then so that's not really. not really a good idea like to have a kid before you're married so like they either get quickly married or i like my cousin like that his his my cousin frank like uh he

He was Amish? No, like his parents, they realized they had him when they were still on room shipping and Amish, so they just left. Wow. Yeah. So your cousin, his parents... We're both on Rumspringer. Yep. Both Amish. Yep. One of them got pregnant, the woman. The woman, yeah. And then they realized at that point that they had to leave. Would they have been welcomed back into the church or no? Like, so what happens if that happens? Either you leave or you like almost...

become married right away. Cause that has happened a couple of times. That actually happened for my parents. So I have to quickly get married. Okay. So you have to make that quick choice. Yeah. Now, if you decide to leave, are you shunned? Are you allowed to come back? What is it like? Like once you allow, once you decide to.

leave. So if you leave and you're already a member of the church, you'll get shunt from it. And then if you're not a member, like on Rome Spring, if you leave, it varies on the parents a lot, like on my dad's side, like they... they wouldn't really, for the longest time, they wouldn't really...

be happy or we wouldn't really talk to their kids when they came came and visited they once that are ex-amish on my mom's side they were like that for a little bit too like in the first but on my mom's side now when the when the ex-amish kids come back They're like now 40 and stuff, 30, 40, and maybe even older. Like they come back, they're welcome, like all that stuff. But on my dad's side...

They're still a little bit iffy, but they're way better than they were. I see. So they're coming around a little bit more than they used to. Yeah. But probably in your grandfather's generation, if somebody was shunned, they might not talk to them. Yep. That's how it is. When you get shunned.

You're not supposed to, well, you can talk to them, but you're not supposed to like help them out in any way. Like you can't accept money from them and you can't, you can't, you're not supposed to get a ride from them too. A ride.

Like, let's say they were driving, the ones that left, they were driving and stuff, you're not supposed to, like, ride with them. Oh, yeah. If they can't even stay on the path to heaven, how are they going to keep you on a path when they're trying to take you somewhere? Yeah.

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No, not this, no. Is it good? Yeah. Yeah. It's grape. I thought it's grape, so it's really good. I'm going to have to try this stuff. Can you have a little bit? Yeah. No alcohol. No alcohol? Okay. So what does it have? It's like water? Mmm. Ooh, mine's cherry cola flavored. It's like spicy stuff. It's like a little bit of ADD kind of. Oh, dude, this stuff actually tastes like, like the grapes that you squeeze out of the, like.

Not the grapes that you eat from the store, but like the Amish grapes that you can buy. Like the ones that you squeeze out of the... What do you call that? The skin? Have you ever had those grapes where you just squeeze them out and you swallow them? Yeah, it tastes just like this. Really? Yeah. Let's get a look at those Amish purple grapes. Yeah, they're, uh, yeah, that's how they look.

and those you know how the stores like they have no seeds in them like these have like a seed in them you just squeeze them out and then you swallow them because if you try to eat them like chew on them like um Like you just bite into the seat and stuff. Oh, you just squeeze them out. This actually tastes exactly like that, so it must be very natural. Yes, sir. It's the best, man. It's very good.

That'll get you home, brother. That'll get you home. Yeah. So I saw that this does have caffeine in it. Yeah, it has a little bit of caffeine. So I'll be like moving around. Yeah, you'll be feeling something. Yeah. What is your Rumspringer experience been like? It's been crazy. I've done like the first year and a half. I didn't do too much because I wasn't 18 yet. But like this summer.

I've done so many crazy things. Actually, last summer I got to drive, like, a Corvette. That was crazy. Like, these two girls, like, they let me drive their Corvette. It was a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. Where'd you meet them? Through my uncle, my ex-Amish uncle Simon. I met him through them. And dude, I actually was at their wedding. The one with the black hair, I was at her and her husband's wedding. It was pretty cool.

Yeah. And yeah, so I got to drive a Corvette. That thing was really fast too. Like you stamp on the pedal a little bit. It was like a horse with like. Like some special oats or something. Oh, yeah. Like put some Celsius in their water. Oh, yeah. That thing has been eating diesel-dipped carrots right there, homie. That horse has got it. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, and they were like...

well, I think it was overcrowded because there's only like two seats and then she's like sitting in the middle and stuff. Hey, that's fine though, dude. You gotta have at least one chick hanging out of a Corvette, dude. Yeah. That's Rumspringer. Yeah, that is Rumspringer.

And then they wanted to get a couple videos because they thought that was pretty cool. Oh, it's amazing, bro. It's great to see you out there just trying some different things. Yeah. What other things did you try that you found that you liked and didn't like out there? Uh, what was it? Oh, yeah. I also got the other weekend, I got to, went to, like,

It was Eau Claire, Wisconsin. There was like an air show where they had like the Blue Angel airplanes, had all kinds of airplanes. Nice. And then they also like, you had to pay a little bit. Well, it was actually quite a bit. It was like $200.

for like one helicopter right and i was like you know this might be like a week or two of wait just like of me working but like i want to go in a helicopter right so i was kind of scared to like hold my phone out because uh Because like the helicopter open and stuff like what happens if you drop it and stuff But it's really smooth too and when we took off and like we took off and stuff it was like it was really crazy it felt like we were Like I felt like I was on a

like on a piece of plywood and i just started going up it was like it was crazy and It felt really crazy. That's actually Attlee right there. Oh, nice, brother. He's still Amish at home. He busts his head.

cut his hair and stuff. Wow, that's exceptional, bro. You got out there. You just felt like a bird, huh? I did feel like a bird. And this guy, I think he gave a little bit of a longer ride because we're Amish and stuff. And... he we like we went sideways on the we went sideways on the like on the above the lake and stuff because like if you hit water really far off it's like

It's pretty much like concrete, I think, that we went sideways and almost felt like I was falling off. But I had my trusty seatbelt on and stuff. So we were pretty good. So that was a crazy ride. But it was actually kind of smooth, you know.

I was actually more scared when I was, like, a couple weeks later, probably like a month later. It was right after I went to your concert. Your concert was... Like, really crazy. Oh, did you have fun? Could you understand a lot of the material? I did, yeah. Like, some of it I didn't understand. Like, the bald guy was there. The guy that his parents are, like, from the Middle East was there. They were pretty cool. And then you came out.

And then I thought it was really funny. This was actually, you know, before the show, I was jamming out. I was with my cousin Frank and he was like, we were, I was just jamming out to the music. Yeah, because people don't understand this is where we met. We met after a show. Yeah. And I was like, dude, we've been trying to have an Amish person on, and then here God just put us right together, brother. Yeah, God is great. He works.

He works in mysterious ways, it seems like. He's the magician, man. Yeah. And I thought, you know, C.O. of Island would probably, I wanted to give you, like, wear an Amish hat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did you give me that hat or not? No, I... It was my head. It didn't really fit. Actually, I have a little bit of surprise for you. Hey, Frank, you want to bring that over? Dude, I got... So, what I did over last week, me and your...

me and some of your strong connections were talking. They didn't quite know what size your hat was. It's a bit of an odd thing to know and stuff. Yeah, and it's an odd thing to ask a man. Yeah, it is. But we got an estimate size, and I wanted to give you this hat. So now you can be like...

You're going to be like part of the Amish Mafia. Oh, that's cool, dude. Yeah. Thank you so much. And a hat size, that's just like the waist for your head, you know? Yeah, it is. You don't want to admit your little fat above the ears, you know? Yeah, right. This has a band in it. Was this the front or the back? That's the front, yeah. All right.

So that way you always wear the hat right. Does it fit? Oh, it's a bit loose. Is it a bit loose? Perfect. Dude, perfect. I'm glad I got you the right size. Danke. You're welcome. That means... You're welcome. Does donkey mean thank you? No, dengue. Dengue. Yeah, the same thing in German. Like, thank you in, uh, German and Pennsylvania Dutch is the same thing. Dengue. Yeah. Heck yeah, dude.

Yeah, now you're part Amish. You just need the rest of the clothes. I feel great, man. Do you think I would make a good Amish person or not? Be honest with me. Ah. Well, do you break a lot of rules and stuff? I don't know, really. I don't think so. Yeah. Like, uh, like, if you don't really break any of the rules, you make a pretty good Amish. I could get my mom to get you something.

some Amish clothes for you. Maybe for Christmas I'll exchange something with you and I could send you something that would be, uh, that your community would accept as well. Yeah. Are you allowed to accept gifts from people that are not Amish? Yeah. I accept gifts from people that are not Amish. Do your parents allow you to? Is that okay? Yep. Because they sometimes, like, we all, we had sometimes a guy from around Christmas time, sometimes a guy, like, brings some stuff.

And then he's done it for a couple years, and he gifts all the younger kids some presents and stuff. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it's very nice. I know you had mentioned before that your parents said there's some stuff not to do during Rome Spring. What was some of that?

They didn't really say too much, but they tell me like when I do something that they didn't think was, how do I say this, like probably not the best thing to do. Like appropriate? Yeah, like not probably like because sometimes I do wild stuff, you know, like going to Walmart, riding a scooter. Yeah. Because that came around and.

But do they have advice against sex, drugs, things like that? No, not any sex stuff. That doesn't get talked about. You kind of have to do door to explore. You just kind of have to... You know, go out on the jungle and see what bites. Damn. So, yeah, we went to Walmart. Oh, something will bite at Walmart, dude. Yeah. I was looking at the TVs. They're like $1,000. Crazy. That's like a third of a bucky.

And a TV doesn't even go anywhere. It just, like, sits somewhere. I'd rather just play charades with my buddy like you guys probably do a lot. Y'all play charades a lot? I'm not even quite sure what that is. Oh, it's where someone, like, you write down some movies or TV. Oh, shoot, you don't know a lot of movies and TV shows.

Charades. It's like somebody acts something out and you have to guess what they're acting out. Like they impersonate something. Oh, you like pretend. So like let's say I was pretending to be the bishop. I'd be like. Like, go down here and then big angry look. Maybe scratching your beard, maybe going like this or something. Yeah, like this. Yeah. Yeah, like something like that. No, I've never played that, but I kind of know what you mean. Yeah.

Yeah. But you guys don't talk about sex within the Amish community much? Like at school and stuff, there's not a class that teaches you about it? Not in school, no. So... Will a dad kind of take his son and have like a birds and the bees talk? Like in... It's kind of the birds and the bees. Like the dad will take you and talk to you about how things work, you know? Yeah, no, no.

Like, all of that stuff, you actually have to, like, figure out and stuff. Okay. But, like, since you got phones and stuff, you can kinda, you know, you kinda, you can figure it out. Like... But there's some stuff, I mean, but you're not allowed to look at pornography on your phone and stuff. No, you're not supposed to, no. Yeah. No, I stay away from that stuff. Yeah, it's bad. It is very bad. Yeah.

Yeah. Since you got into Rumfrey, can you get a girlfriend and stuff like that? Or what are you allowed to do? Yeah, I can get a girlfriend, all that stuff. But does she need to be Amish? Preferably, yeah. But if I were to get a... Like a girlfriend that was not Amish should either have to become Amish or I would have to like leave like the Amish. Do you think that there are a lot of women out there who are willing to become Amish? Does that happen a lot?

I know of one case where that is happening, and I don't know how often it happens, but it's... It's rare where it actually goes through. I know a lot of people want to become Amish, but they're not ready to make the final step towards it. But yeah. What's the thing that keeps them away from that? Makes people afraid to take that final step, do you think? I think it's a loss of your phone, the lights on the ceiling, the fans on the ceiling.

like the vents and holes in the ceiling, like all of that stuff, I think. And then like the couch, the TV, and then whatever else, you know, like whatever else Hohile used.

If you have an Amish wife, does a wife have to provide like food and sexuals and stuff for the husband or is it just – is it always negotiable or does the wife have like a responsibility for kind of food and sexuals and stuff? Yeah. So the way – it's everyone kind of accepts like they're like it's just uh how do i say this it's like normal and you like it's where it's kind of like it's where it's everyone has a mutual understanding of like what they have to do right

Because, like, the woman, you know, cooks, cleans, you know, takes care of things around the house. And then, like, if she needs help, she'll ask, like, the husband for, like, help. And then usually the husband's... you know, gone most of the day working, like either building houses, plowing the fields or cutting like lumber or making cabinets or even polishing cabinets, stuff like that. Like they help each other when they're, when they're like at.

Like at home, like if it needs. But yeah, like the wife does cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids. Got it. And then stuff in the garden too. Right here it says, Amish women mainly focus on housekeeping, child rearing, gardening, and food preparation. Many manage home finances, have their names on property deeds, and control the family checkbook.

Women nurture the spiritual life of the children and are active in maintaining Amish cultural practices. Yeah. So women have a pretty strong voice in the Amish community. Yeah. Well, I'd say so, yeah. Yeah. Are Amish women good?

Cooks, like do they make some cool stuff or what are some good Amish meals? Oh yeah, like, Amish, Amish make- i'd say make some of the best food like especially grandma she had a lot of experience in the like in the field stuff or it's i mean like she has a lot of experience in like the field of cooking and stuff like her breadsticks they're like out of this world are they they're really good and then my mom what do you put on them ah i'm not even quite sure

Can you put butter on them or not? Yeah, butter. Yeah, it looks exactly like that. And can you put a little bit of salt on them? Do you have salt? Ah, no, we don't put salt on them. They're like, they're garlic breadsticks. Oh, so they already have garlic on them. Yeah, and they're just... they're really good and and my favorite meal like let's say we're doing a lot of stuff like building something or

Like a frolic where like the whole community comes together. A frolic it's called? Yeah, that's like when the whole community comes together and built something like a barn. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then like they'll make...

They'll make either some chicken or some burgers with mashed potatoes, corn, and, like, I think you would call, like, it's like... mac and cheese oh yeah and then you put some so what we do if our food's like hot we put some applesauce on it mix it up really yeah and then it's nice cool and then pork and beans oh if the food's hot you'll put applesauce on it yeah to like cool it down and stuff

So like that's like one of my favorite meals. And then even better, like if you have steak and stuff, like if you have steak, that's really good. Yeah. And do you have dessert too? Oh, we have pretty good dessert too, like pies. Oh, I bet Amish pie is good. Yeah, they are. Do you have sugar or don't you?

yeah they they put sugar in them i'm not sure what they all put in because i know how to make scrambled eggs and that's about it same yeah and yeah they put what is it like uh what's a popular pie that you have or a popular dessert A popular pie is shoofly pie is one of them. And then peanut butter pie. Shoofly pie, what is it? That, I've not had it.

We don't have it very often, but another pie that's really good is mince pie, like pumpkin pie, that's really good. Like apple pie, that's really good. Oh, that's a good one. I want that. Like that stuff is pretty good. Yeah, that's my cousin right there. Oh, really? I've seen this woman before. She's Amish. Yeah, no, she's ex-Amish. Oh, she's ex-Amish. She used to be Amish, yeah. So she's my cousin, actually. Oh, wow. Yeah, so I guess...

Famous cousins too. What are the fears of having a girlfriend that's not Amish? Just that they won't understand the religion and the culture? Like the biggest fear would be that the church or the parents would find out. That's definitely the biggest fear. But is it okay if she decides to join the church? It's okay? Yeah, it is okay. But for that, that rarely ever happens. It's almost as rare as the bishop leaving the community. Got it. Would she be welcome if that happened?

Yeah, if she was fully Amish, yeah, she would be welcome. Now, she might get a little bit of looks in the beginning, but yeah, as long as she's fully Amish, that would be good. Dude, she deserves the looks probably. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can handle a little bit of looks out of the gate. Can Amish people tickle each other or not? Is that allowed or not? Yeah, like when we were little kids, we used to tickle each other. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't really tickle anyone. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think people should keep doing it, but I'm just making sure it's allowed when you're kids. Yeah. And do they play hide and go seek? Like what kind of stuff do people do to pass the time? Like either ride horses, the ponies, like. like pony cars and then also hide and seek. That's pretty fun. And then, oh yeah, we play board games or just play with cars, play with blocks.

I used to play underneath the porch or in the garden. We used to have a lot of cars and stuff. And I used to pretend there was a whole world there. in the in the garden so mom didn't really like when i played in the garden when it was like all all the corn was up the potatoes like i actually liked playing when it was corn corn was up and then uh the potatoes because it was like

It was way more possibilities for imagination. You could have a place here, a place there. Yeah, just more creativity going on. Yeah, but if it was... The garden didn't work out or either that or just play under the porch. Like the porch was like three feet high. So the older I got, the more I hit my head up on the porch. That's when it's time to get out. Yeah, that's when I decided, you know, if I do play in like when I do play with cars and stuff.

And out in the dirt, like the garden's the place to be. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And do people start dating within the Amish culture at a certain age? Or is it kind of taboo? Or how does it work? Like, is there a dance, like at school, where you can invite a girl to a dance? Like, how does dating... And that sort of like adolescent attraction kind of stuff like that where you're trying to get – you're trying to –

You know, meet a girl or if you have a first kiss, what's that? How's that whole universe in the Amish culture? So like our school only goes until eighth grade. So we're out of school in like 13 or 14. You're done with school completely? Yeah, completely done. And then you go to work. yeah so we didn't we didn't i don't even know what high school is or public school or like i've never been there never ever

I want to go one day. High school is just doing drugs and trying not to die of driving while intoxicated. Yeah. Like, if that never happens for us, like, our horse will just take us home.

Right. Yeah. That's a Tesla. You basically have an original, you kind of have like one of the self-driving cars. Yeah, because if you fall asleep on your horse, you know, it might not be the safest way, you know, because you might, you know, go a little bit over on the road. But as long as the people with like steering wheels and stuff, they'll be. As long as they're like okay and stuff, the horse will like go home. And like, so the way it works for like dating, if you're like, what is it?

So, like, 16 and a half. Like, some, it depends on the parents. Like, my mom and dad, like, they weren't really allowed to, like, become, like, official boyfriend and girlfriend until... like until they were 18 yeah but like in our community like right now like like it basically happens whenever now like Oh, heck yeah. As soon as you join, like, the, like, Rumspringer, like, you can. And usually the way you meet and hang out is through singings, like, after church or at, like...

Weekend parties. That's how it is. So weekend parties, do those happen in your district or those happen off of property? It varies where the Amish party is. Sometimes it happens when the... Sometimes when the parents aren't home, we go to like... We go to like... their place and party there so at amish parties will people just like are people drinking and stuff like that it's a little bit more like freewheeling yeah you like drinking and then like even like the vapes things popped up too

Like... Do Amish like to vape or not? Some do, yeah. Yeah, I knew it. Yeah. Some do. I knew it, too. But also, like, cigarettes. And then... Sometimes we go, like... A pipe, too. A lot of Amish look like they would smoke a pipe. The older ones, too, but the ones that are, the younger ones usually don't. They usually stick to cigarettes and stuff like that. But sometimes, like, we'll go to, like, an ex-Amish person's house and party up.

there and it's it's a lot of fun it is and when do you if you if you're doing rump spring when do you have to be back at home like do you leave on friday you have to be back on sunday night or what is the rules kind of no it depends it varies from family to family let's see if church tomorrow you probably want to be home like you know before the morning so you get a little bit of sleep or there's not not church you can come home or you can't just it just like depends but usually i like

When I do it, I usually don't come home until, like, later Sunday. Okay. Yeah. And do they drug test you or whatever if you're honest? Do you have to get drug tested? No, we don't have to do any, like, drug tests. Really? Yeah, like, no tests and stuff. Damn. Cause y'all got y'all's own year long Halloween going on out there in the fields. I'm like, yeah. Like sometimes, like sometimes in the woods, the field, like just depends where the spot is. Yeah. Yeah. But now like all Amish that.

like party and stuff, like our number one way of like talking to each other is through like Snapchat. They've really taken over Snapchat? Yeah, like if you, uh, if...

They've been Amish, like a young Amish person that is roughly my age, if they have a phone, like a smartphone, they have Snapchat. Yeah, so... When was the first time you saw a phone or a screen, do you remember? I think it was one time... It was not the first time, but I remember this one time when one of my ex-Amish uncles was at our place with his girlfriend and she let me look on her phone and...

I was like sitting right beside her and she grabbed out her phone. She like started texting someone and she was flying through like the keyboard and stuff. You were like swiping the lines and all of a sudden words popped up. Like it was like. It was like bop, bop, bop, bop, the words, like, almost as fast as you can, like, talk and stuff. I was, like, really surprised. So that's, like, that's, like, the, like, I'd say, like, the first, some of the first memories of seeing a phone.

What things are forbidden in you guys' culture, kind of? A lot of things are, like, electricity, like, having a smartphone. We're allowed to have, like, phones for, like, our businesses, like, phone shacks and stuff. And then TVs, what else? Pretty much anything that like doesn't have like... that that requires like electricity and stuff and also like certain certain color of like shirts dresses if it's too bright it can also be like like

Like you can, the Bishop or Deacon will talk to you about it. Oh yeah. About it. Like it being the wrong color. Too flashy. Too flashy. Yeah. And also if your haircut's like way short. So my, my haircut's like. like okay because my mom gives me a haircut every time oh yeah yeah so i've never actually had a different kind of haircut

Oh, yeah, beautiful. Yeah, so I almost have a mullet. You could probably have an Amish haircut, too. Oh, yeah, I think I have a little bit. Yeah. You just let the hair in front of the ear grow. I could have been Amish. Block a little bit off the sound, like to the ear and stuff. Yeah. I would have enjoyed being Amish, I think, man. Yeah. How are regular people and Amish people different from each other, have you gathered? How do they seem different from each other? So...

Like, the main thing I've noticed is, like, a lot of Amish, when they're in public, it seems like they're a bit more respectful, I guess. Another thing that's big, I guess... Like, so if we, like, if we did something that was big and wrong, like some, one time my little brother, he stumped lots of corn down in our corner field and, and he got a spanking from that. Like, that's, I guess that's the difference because.

I see a lot of kids don't, like, I guess they don't get spankings anymore. Yeah, they don't do it anymore. Yeah. They should. I mean, I don't think kids should get abused, but sometimes a spanking is okay, I think. Yeah, because this is like getting beat up and then, because... Like, cause we never got like beat up or anything, but like if we did something bad, we got like, like three cracks. It was like a, like a bell or something that, but we never got abused and stuff. So like.

Just, I guess, discipline. So discipline is something that seems stronger in the Amish community. What are some crimes that they have? Are there any crimes that are popular in Amish land?

I'm not quite sure. Maybe, like, taxes sometimes because I know some people don't, like, file taxes and stuff. Like, because the only tax that we get, like...

that are we free from, that Dalmish don't get taxed. It's like social security tax. So when we get old, the government doesn't like pay us and stuff. Oh, they don't, so you don't have to pay into that? No. Wow, I wonder why not. When you join the church... you get like the bishop and the government I guess work together to where you're like exempt from the social security tax.

But that's like the only tax that I know off that you're like exempt from other than that Like if but if you don't file taxes because I know some don't mm-hmm But other than that we have to pay all the other taxes

The Amish are exempt from Social Security and Medicare taxes, FICA, if they formally reject benefits and file for exemption due to their belief in mutual community support. Wow, so you guys feel like you don't need that. You support each other, huh? Yeah, a lot of Amish don't have concerns.

for stuff too and uh so when hell nah I don't think you could insure them you know but for business i don't i think for businesses they somehow do what i think but for like let's say you like let's say you fall off a roof or something you hurt yourself and then let's say you go to a hospital because i know the hospital like they

They charge quite a bit. Oh, yeah. I don't know where they come up with the crazy numbers. They'll take you through the rumspringa. They will. They will drag you through it. They'll drag you, dude. Yeah, it's like dragging behind the buggy. Yeah. Or like a horse runs away and you're trying to hang on and you're like scraping across the gravel and stuff. But yeah, but like...

Like all the community helps pay for that. Like if that would help. I got it. So there's a lot of community support. That's a lot at any point in somebody's life. So you guys might have a day where you're like, Mr. So-and-so needs help or miss. So-and-so needs help. Let's go help them. Yep. That's how.

works that's a big part of your life yeah like for example what are things you would go help a neighbor do uh like really with anything like putting away hay we've done that lots of times or like building a barn like we've done that too

Or, like, even a house, too. Like, if they need help, like, a day or so, we'll come together and help each other. And I know back in the day, we used to help each other. Like, someone does hey and then... everyone everyone helps this person do hey then that person also like it's just a group effort this person this person this person like all around the community but that doesn't really happen happen anymore like you know like most

Most, uh, what is it? Oh yeah, most Amish, they don't, they still farm a little bit, but most of them do like construction or like building cabinets. Oh, it's changed. Yeah. So the Amish are farming less than they used to? Yeah, because it's not as sustainable anymore. When my dad was growing up, all they do was farm and milk cows.

They milk a lot of cows. So what are some popular products, like you said, like cabinets and stuff? You see a lot of those. You see cabinets. You see furnaces sometimes. I don't know if that's a real thing or that's just something that is made up and they claim that Amish do it. Like, you mean like wilded furnaces? Now, I'm not sure quite where those come from. Like, the furnaces, because there's wilding to it. Now, they might get it from like a...

If I'm like a person that's not Amish, I get them from there. The biggest shift in Amish economic life in the last century has been from agriculture to non-farm businesses. In the early 1900s, nearly all Amish families depended on farming for their livelihood. Today, only about 10% do, with the majority now involved in various trades, crafts, retail. And then four, yeah, what are some of those? Construction and woodworking.

Carpentry, cabinet making, and now famous Amish furniture shops. That is a big thing now, huh? Yeah. Quilt making, sewing related trades. Yeah, like selling Amish food too and quilts and a lot of stuff like that. It's a big part of the culture up there. Yeah, it is. And how will you guys have like places on your property where people come and buy them? Or do you take them off property and people buy them there? Usually like if you have a greenhouse or like a place where.

where like the like where you can buy like food and stuff that's usually like a little building on the property so like a market Yep, kind of like a market. Or there's a farmer's market where Amish go to a town for a day and they bring all the baked goods and stuff like that. And there's also... A lot of Amish places, like a lot of places where Amish are was like tours. They offer tours and then they bring them around. And then it's kind of like the Amish mall, but it's like.

Like the stores are like really far apart from each other, like a couple of miles. But yeah, they bring them around and they, they get to see an Amish, you know, Amish farm. I think they're called like Amish tourists and like tourist stuff like that. Okay. And then, and then you can like.

stop at the Amish place and, like, buy something from, like, the store and stuff. Got it. Yeah. Yeah, we've been up there before and stopped at some places that I think we're having cheese and ice cream maybe even? Yeah. I'm not sure. But, like...

Usually we only make ice cream through the winter because you just grab the snow out of the ground and put it in a bucket. Could you make ice cream if you needed to? Yeah, like if we had ice or something cold that you put around the... Around the thing where you make ice cream because you got to crank the ice cream. You crank and then the thing in the middle spins around the ice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so like Amish ice cream is pretty good.

What music do you guys listen to? I know you said in the beginning there's some different sometimes people sneak in some Def Leppard but if not do you guys just sing a lot? Is there a lot of Amish songs and dancing as well or no? in our community there's not really any dancing there's the like the only like the only music songs that are really a louder would be like like chairman hymns but then like on the uh then sometimes we like sneak out on the weekends and stuff and

Listening to some Soulja Boy or something? Yeah, like what is it? Def Leppard, Bon Chovy, a lot of Amish rock and roll, and then I guess house EDM music. And then also a lot of country like Garth Brooks, Mark and Wallen. Yeah. People like that. But I also listen to like a little bit of rap stuff. Like Amish Paradise is, that's a pretty good song. Amish Paradise? Yeah. Keeps, man. Who sang that?

Weird Al Yankovic I did. Oh, did he? That makes perfect sense. That's groovy. Yeah. I love that song. That's a banger, huh? It is a banger. Yeah. He looks a little bit mad there, but... It was a pretty good song. He probably pissed his horse ran off or whatever. Yeah, something like that. Because his horse was pretty good at backing all the way at the end. Yeah. And then also, I like to listen a little bit of rap stuff too.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, like Ghana. A little bit of Ghana. Oh, you listen to some Ghana? Yeah, like I don't really listen to what he says. I looked at the lyrics like a couple times and like the lyrics aren't the best, but like I like the way it sounds. Like the, like the, like the, sounds like, like wind chimes. And then it just, it sounds very melodic. He's a vibe. Yeah. He's got it. Yeah.

What else was I thinking about? Where else can we go from here? We're almost done. Let me think about what else we can talk about. You know what I'm going to do to me? I'm going to take that down and keep this up here. That's pretty cool. I'm just going to make sure that you're always here in spirit, dude.

I appreciate that. You bet, man. I want to ask you something. With the risk of people leaving the community and stuff, are families still very close or do they only get closer after people join the church? Does that make any sense to you? I think I think it does. So like most of the time, like the family is very close unless like when the when the kids and the parents like like they don't agree on stuff and then they leave. That's like the like the time when like.

they're not as close anymore. It depends on the person, I guess, and the parents, too. Is it pretty heartbreaking when that happens in the community? Yeah, it's like, when I was younger, I was like, when someone left, it's almost like, it's almost like someone died. Not quite, but it almost felt like that. But since I got older, I understand it a bit more, and it's not as bad as it used to be. Yeah. Wow, that's you right there? Yeah. I was really skinny when I was...

When I was younger, I'm still kind of skinny, you know? You look like that guy in Kingpin a little. What's that? You seen Kingpin? No idea what that is. It's like an Amish movie. It's like a historical Amish film or whatever. Oh, I almost look like that, dude? Yeah. When he's younger. Yeah. Not now.

Oh. When he's younger. But he's a classy guy. He's a great guy. Yeah, he looks like a great guy too. Oh yeah, Randy Quaid. He's got like a big beard now. Yeah, yeah. He's doing okay. Yeah. I'm a fan of his.

What have you decided about Rumspringer and what you're going to do with your family and the church and stuff? Have you made any decisions yet? Like, not yet. The final decision will probably be in like... probably within like two years or so okay and then i it depends if i leave or you know join the church and well right now you actually can't really join the church because like there's no bishop

you can join other churches that are like a little bit of ways in a different district. But like, yeah, it'd probably be like two years until I, you know, like make my final decision because it's kind of a big decision. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, what would be the thing you think that would draw you out of the faith that would draw you out of the church and out of the district? Uh, I would think like, like if I wanted to do something, like something that would like.

Something I'm doing right now, like this podcast, something worldly, and they'll probably come down on me for doing something. That, I guess, would drive me away a little bit, because... I don't know, it feels a little bit restrictive, but I guess that's the only thing I would think. But you don't feel like doing this podcast will mess up your opportunity to go back or leave, huh? No, I don't think it...

I don't think it will. Okay, good. I don't want that to happen, man. I want you to be able to make the best choice for yourself no matter what. It sounds like a really beautiful community, is it? Yeah, it's very beautiful, I'd say. It sounds like you have a lot of, like... community, a lot of sense of togetherness, you know? A lot of, like, do you feel a strong sense of purpose being Amish? Yeah, like...

You, like, kind of uphold the honor, you know, work hard. You know, the harder you work, the better, because you get, you stay in shape, and then... more you can help out is always better. Cause I love helping out people and making people stay. That's like one of my favorite things to do. I like doing that. So.

Yeah. A lot of fun. Yeah. I think it's important. You know, I think that's one way we really fill ourselves up is like doing something for somebody else. You know, it feels good. Yeah. It's like, and you seem like you get to do a lot of that in your community. So there's probably a strong sense of feeling of like doing good.

Yeah, there is. If you guys are helping each other out a lot? Yeah. Are siblings really close in your community or is that kind of not... You mean the siblings? Yeah. Yeah, usually like the siblings are usually close, you know. Not like weird clothes, you know, just like brother and brother. Yeah, legally clothes or whatever. Yeah, like legally clothes. So, usually the brothers and the sisters, they usually keep like...

The sisters are closer to themselves and their brothers are like closer to themselves. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Here's my, here's my little brother. Oh, that's him right there, eh? Yeah. I, I, like, he, like, he doesn't, like, he doesn't really. He probably wouldn't care if I put his face up on social media and stuff.

And I blurt it out. I put like a thing over his eyes. Oh, yeah, out of respect. Yeah. That's fun though, you guys. So a lot of times when you're Amish, you're just driving around, hanging out, telling stories and stuff? Yeah. Making each other laugh a lot? Yeah. Are you allowed to laugh? Yeah, you're allowed to laugh. Oh, that's great.

we like drink coffee and laugh and like at work at work we're laughing a lot of time we talk and and because like when you're like i don't know if like if like non-amish people i don't know what they do it like when when they like work they do they like talk to each other and laugh and stuff yeah they do i think a decent amount at a lot of jobs yeah probably jobs that are more like if you're doing construction things like that contracting

things where you're building stuff, working together, where there's team opportunity, there's a lot of laughter, dude. But if you're just sitting at a desk by yourself, you're probably just losing your mind. Yeah, that would be kind of sad, like being inside all day and, you know, under the...

Under the lights and stuff. Oh, yeah. I think there's something that's kind of like, it doesn't feel very human about it. No. Are there a lot of people on antidepressants and stuff that are Amish or no? Ah, not that I know of. There might be like, like, maybe. Like here, here and maybe way over there, but not that I know of, no. Do people seem depressed a lot or not really?

uh most of them don't most of them don't but then you have you then you also have sometimes uh like people that are like what do you call those people that are like super depressed like sometimes they're like super depressed oh um They're almost like the water when it gets rough. They're like up and down a lot. Oh, bipolar kind of? Yeah, bipolar. Like, we sometimes, like, I don't have a person that has that and, like...

It's kind of crazy. Some studies have found ominous depression rates to be one fifth to one tenth of mainstream society with strong family ties and community support cited as protective factors. That's unbelievable. One fifth to one tenth is insane, brother.

I mean, that's a huge difference. Strong family ties, robust social networks, work ethic, and especially religious faith are seen as major mental health protective factors. Will you guys pray together a lot just with friends? Like if you see them somewhere, is that a common practice? No, we only do it at the table. Got it. But I know some families do pray more than we do. We should probably do it more. I think that's how we all feel. Do you have Valentine's Day?

Oh, yeah, we have Valentine's Day at school. So what happens in Valentine's Day is at school. So when that happens, it would basically we put like things on a paper and we. put it into a hat and then we mix it all up and someone walks around with like and then you reach in and you pick out a name and if you got that name then that's your valentine like your valentine you gotta like switch lounge pails

And then you also have to like send a Valentine in with them. And can it be a boy or a girl? Yeah, it can be like, like either way. Got it. Yeah. So it's like nothing. It's like. It's probably way different from non-Amish and public schools. I'm guessing non-Amish and public schools, it would have to be like a boy and a girl, right? Yeah, but in y'all's culture, it's just whatever. Yeah.

yeah it's crazy and the way we do it is like just the main the reason we do it is mainly your friends you give your friends a valentine and then the then you also switch like launch pails and then The moms will usually put something special in there, like NX or candy bar. My mom used to buy those things from Walmart, those big red hearts, and then send that with to them. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Moms do that. Yeah. That's a nice thing.

Yeah. What other holidays? Do you have Halloween? No, we don't have Halloween, but I've had, before I went to Room Spring, the neighbors, our non-Amish neighbors. They picked me up, and then they put me in a prison costume thing, black and white stripes all over me, and we went out gathering candy. You just walk up to these people's houses, and they have candy for you. I know.

yeah it's it's crazy halloween's like really crazy but a lot of them a lot a lot of amish like don't don't celebrate because like apparently that's like uh the occasion of like halloween is like Something to do with like the devil. I'm not quite sure. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's a pagan holiday. Yeah, because they have some people like real scary stuff in the yard. They got like snakes and then these

These dead people with like skulls and stuff. Yeah, stuff hanging from trees. Yeah. Deceased adults and children. Yeah, they're like bones and stuff. I don't know where they get the bones. They're like dick them up or something. It's probably something.

They probably had insider trading with some dog or something. Yeah. What is something that you want people to know about Amish people that are a view of them or you think that's something that's incorrect before we get out of here? Like a misconception? Yeah. Yeah, so like the... one of the biggest misconceptions i see all the time with like me being online and stuff it's like crazy like

all all the stuff like people people say i'm not amish i don't do i don't do this way uh there's actually two misconceptions i can say like number one is like a lot of amish kids my age have like phones like they hide it from their parents and stuff And...

where it's like they have some electronics and stuff, but they have to keep it on the low and stuff. And what would they do? Bury it in a field somewhere? Would they hide it behind a hog or something? Yeah, like hide it in the barn, like the back of the bucky, sometimes in a culvert.

hope it doesn't rain yeah so that's one thing like a lot of Amish have phones and every pretty much every Amish that has a phone that's like my age that's not for business and stuff is like they have snapchat we'd like that's how we yeah like communicate that's like our new new like messenger pitch it's your underground railroad yeah it's underground railroad i was thinking about you know starting underground bucky races but i first got to dig the tunnel and stuff but like another

misconception you know about them is just like uh what was it oh yeah about me not being amish because i have a i have a phone that's because like another thing that's um like huge, like really big. Cause like there's Amish in movies and they're always, they always turn on the butter. Yeah. And basically they're living without electricity. Now there's so many, there's so many different like Amish. Cause like what you hear from me.

like from where I came from, is will not be the same from an Amish in Indiana, Ohio, or like Pennsylvania. It's, it's, there's so many different ones, like little different ways. Different branches of it. Yeah. Lots of different branches. And I, I would, I would.

say like there's not a single community that's like exactly the same there's always a little bit of rules and there's so many different branches of it where they wear a bit different clothes bit different hats do things a bit differently Because I've had people say, like, this is not Amish, and then they, like, write a detailed description. But I guess they probably don't know better that there's, like, lots of different ones because there's...

There's like lots of speechies, watching trooper, new order, old order. There's, there's so many different branches. It sounds like a bunch of people on the warp tour. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, so, so when the Anabaptist became a thing, they basically like. They were like a minority for a little bit. Have you ever seen Back to the Future? No. Dang, boy. What? What's that? I think you would like it. And I think it's something that is Amish appropriate. I don't think it's too crazy. Okay.

I think you could handle it. Have you ever seen Family Man with Nicolas Cage? No. Do you know who Nicolas Cage is? I'm not even quite sure. Wow. Wow. So these are like movies and stuff? Yeah.

Oh, wow. Family Man's one of my favorites, dude. So what's that about? It's about this guy, and he's very, like, rich and fancy and stuff. Yeah. And then one day, he kind of, something happens where he goes back into... his life like 20 years earlier and he makes a different decision to stay with a girl that he was in love with instead of leaving

He goes like back in time? Yeah, he goes back in time. Like he doesn't realize that he falls asleep. It's on Christmas. He falls asleep on Christmas Eve and he wakes up and he's back in a different life he would have had if he had made a different choice to stay in love instead of to go for. Yeah.

like the big job in the fancy apartment. Oh, he went for the money over people. He went for the money over people and he had a choice and he goes back in time and now suddenly he wakes up and he's in a house with this lady that he was in love with but now they have like two kids and they like, they don't live in like,

He was living in this fancy downtown place with a butler and somebody that would chew your gum for you and just tell you what it would taste like. You don't even have to chew it. Wow. That rich. That, that's like super rich. It's too much. Yeah. I'll chew my own gum. You know what I'm saying? I want to chew my own gum, you know, drink my own water. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah, for sure. I want to at least do that. Let me do at least the low, low hanging fruit. Yeah. But anyway.

so then he gets that experience and then one day he wakes back up and he's back in his original life and he hates it and so he drives off from his original life to go find the girl and see what's going on and And then you figure out what happens from there. Wow, that's crazy. It almost sounds like when he went back in time and stuff, or like what would have happened if he would have stayed with that girl. That's almost like a...

That's almost like me deciding if I want to stay Amish or leave the Amish. Yeah, it's like a rumspringer. Yeah, it's like a really hard decision. Yeah. What factors do you think will go into you choosing? What do you think are good factors to help you decide, or do you think about that? I think it's what I will all see from the outside world. And I'll probably compare the two and see which one I like. I like the Amish lifestyle of food.

and all that stuff is good like the only things right now that I don't like too much are the rules a little bit oh yeah yeah but that's what room should bring us for you to break them get out there and break them but do you have any plans to go to any special events coming up while you're on Rumspringer any football games anything like that the only special event I've coming up is actually this weekend I'm gonna go go on a plane for the first time

Wow. Yeah, and jump out of it. No, really? Yeah, I'm going to, like, because, like, let's say something goes wrong when you're landing, so I want to, like, be off the plane, you know, when it's up in the air. Yeah, for sure. And go skydiving. Dude, that's going to be sick. Are you geeked? I, I'm like really excited. So this week is, I think this is a week I'll never forget. Wow. Really, really crazy. So yeah, no one, no one knows this. I haven't told anyone. And so I won't say anything. Yeah.

It's crazy. Let's go skydiving. It's cool. For the first time. But I think, don't they like put, like, they like strap a person on the back of you. They put a guy on you, yeah. I just tell them you're not interested before you guys jump. Yeah. Just say, look. I'm not interested. Yeah. I'm here for the jump. I'm here for a tumble. Yeah. Just as you, I don't want him getting any ideas. Yeah. No ideas at all. Yeah. Like when we land, it's over. Yeah. Right.

That's what the plan is. And because I was thinking, I was talking to my co-worker, I was thinking, you know, that would be a really crazy story. You know, the first airplane ride you ever go into, you just decided, you know, I don't want to.

I'm just going to chum out, you know. I'm out of here. I'm out of here, yeah. So it'll be the first plane you've ever been in, and then you're out of it. I'm out of it, yeah. Wow. And then, like, same way with a podcast. I decided, you know, the first podcast I would be on would be Theo Rons.

You're a pretty cool dude. Well, thank you, dude. I think you are too, man. I'm really intrigued by you guys' lifestyle. I think I learned a decent amount about it today. Yeah. You know, there probably could have been some other avenues about it that I could have asked about. Yeah. But I appreciate you coming, bro.

I really do. I appreciate you inviting me. And I admire you guys having a unique culture. I think there's a lot of people in the world that are trying to get back to the roots of their culture and things that matter and mean something. So I almost feel like you guys are already there in some ways. Yeah, in some ways, yeah. And, like, some people, it feels like it's, like, not grounded anymore to family and stuff, you know. Like, they're just doing, like, really crazy stuff, but...

Like, if you touch grass every day, you know, like, you're outside every day. Like, I'm outside all the time. That's why I'm, like, so dark. I almost look Mexican, but I'm not. But, yeah. Like, and... It's really crazy. I appreciate it a lot for you inviting me. This is a really crazy experience coming out here to town and then me sleeping 10 stories up.

Up 10 stories. I know. That's like the first time I've ever slept in. Oh, you're in a hotel that's really high? Yeah. You've never done that? No, I haven't. Wow. And it's like my first time ever staying in a big city like this. So it's like... I'll never forget it that's awesome

Yeah. Well, good, man. Timothy, I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much, dude, for your time. Thanks for coming out to my show. And yeah, thanks for being here with us and helping us learn, brother. I appreciate it, dude. All right, man. Thanks for my hat, too, dude. Dude, that's the least I could do. It was nice. And when I get closer... I'm coming by for some coffee soup, all right? Yes, sir. With me. Yes. You got it. All right. I can feel it in my bones