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Ep. 205: The Mysteries Of 12 Strand DNA Decoded (feat. Dr. Samuel Lee)

Feb 28, 20251 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 205
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I am sure you guys know what I mean when I say that sometimes I find someone new out there in the world & just cannot get enough of their content & perspective of the world. For me, I take these types of experiences as signs. Signs that perhaps we knew each other in a previous lifetime, signs that obviously something within what they’re teaching is resonating with me on a deep level & above all else, signs that I am meant to find them at the time I did & boy is todays guest a prime example of such a person. When I found this guy, I was beyond excited at just how many topics he spoke of resonated with me, from the true story of the Bible, to peptide treatments, community building & more, to say I was excited to have him on the show would be an understatement. He is a Spiritual psychiatrist, combining his training in psychiatry with ancient wisdom, is the founder of limitlesslivingMD, which works to support people in integrating peptide medicines into their lives safely & effectively & is the founder of the Eternal Life Tribe, which is the main community he has where he teaches the immense amount of knowledge he has surrounding how to activate the true potential our 12 strand DNA blueprint. As a result, in this episode, we allowed the divine to guide our way as we covered a LOT of ground & I am beyond excited to have him back on to keep riffing as he is truly a wealth of knowledge.


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Speaker 1

Thank you . Medicines and the impact they've made among the countless psychonauts exploring the last true frontier . Buy a ticket and take the ride with me as we get true first-hand accounts of the experiences , benefits , risks and transformations taking place within the ever-expanding world of psychedelic medicines .

On this One Time , on Psychedelics , I am sure you guys know what I mean when I say that sometimes I find someone new out there in the world and just cannot get enough of their content and perspective of the world . For me , I take these types of experiences as signs . Signs that perhaps we knew each other in a previous lifetime .

Signs that obviously something within what they're teaching is resonating with me on a deep level and , above all else , signs that I am meant to find them . At the time I did , and boy is today's guest a prime example of such a person .

When I found this gentleman , I was beyond excited at just how many topics he spoke of that resonated with me , from the true story behind the Bible to peptide treatments , community building and more to say , I was excited to have him on the show would be a severe understatement .

He is a spiritual psychiatrist , combining his training in psychiatry with ancient wisdom , is the founder of Limitless Living MD , which works to support people in integrating peptide medicines into their lives safely and effectively , and is the founder of the Eternal Life Tribe , which is the main community he has , where he teaches the immense amount of knowledge he has

surrounding how to activate the true potential of our 12-strand DNA blueprint . As a result , in this episode we allowed the divine to guide our way , as we covered a lot of ground and I am beyond excited to have him back on to keep riffing , as he is truly a wealth of knowledge .

So , without further ado , please help me in welcoming my cosmic brother , dr Samuel Lee , to the show . Samuel Lee , my man dude , we were just talking before I hit record , about one of quite a few different synchronicities I had around you .

You know , it's kind of like you've been playing hide and go seek with me for a couple of years , or our higher selves have been playing hide and seek with each other for a few years . And , as I mentioned in the intro to everyone listening in , you know I found Sam .

Uh , originally I I heard about him through some friends and then , when I found your profile , I just realized that like every single post you made was exactly where I parked my car like exactly what I wanted to be hearing and there was a lot of different topics , man , from peptides to psychiatry to a lot of the Ark of the Covenant slash like just so many

different topics , man , that I was like who is this guy ? So I am beyond excited to have you on the show , man , and to dive into all this magic with you .

Speaker 2

Yeah , man , thanks for having me on Ryan . Yeah , it's like we were just talking like how cool it is how we all end up finding each other in this lifetime , like we all know , like you know a couple of people in common , and love connects everything , man , and like in the perfect divine right , time and harmony in order it connects .

And I was curious about you too because , man , my relationship with cannabis has been , yeah , I've had every stage of a relationship with cannabis . You can think of honeymoon , giggles , paranoia , dating , steady like divorce , like every single single thing .

So when you kind of presented this new paradigm of cannabis , I was super curious , like you know , because it's such a beautiful plant on all levels .

Speaker 1

So , yeah , man , it's a joy to connect oh yeah , dude , super excited to hear that you like the stuff I'm putting out too . It's . It's so fun , right like . I like to think about us .

You know all the people that are doing these cool things and you know , bringing their unique essence into what they do is like little magicians , and we all share our tricks with one another .

You know all the people that are doing these cool things and you know , bringing their unique essence into what they do is like little magicians , and we all share our tricks with one another .

You know , like you know , my girlfriend's an astrologer , so I hear a lot about what's happening in the stars and she's fucking epic at it , and so you know , I really think the age of Aquarius is all about collaboration over competition , and I can see it happening right Like , and I'm so excited because when I was a kid , I liked nothing more than sleepovers .

So to me , business feels like a more professional sleepover these days , because I get to hang out with all my friends , I get to collaborate and create cool projects , and I get to talk to amazing people like yourself and learn so much myself . So it's really cool , man .

I've been having a blast with everything I do and the people I've been getting in contact with , like yourself , and I'm curious for you , man . Like you know , I went to school for psychology , so we have like a little bit in common there too . And for me I realized early on , like I didn't I wasn't really a khakis guy , you know .

So I realized I wasn't going to do like the traditional approach . And I know for you , you went all the way through to psychiatry , which I believe includes med school to a certain degree , correct , or something like that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Medical school four years of medical school , four years of residency .

Speaker 1

Yeah , dude , I know it's a big process . I did four and I was like done . So I'm curious for you how does someone that goes all the way in the centralized system , like into psychiatry , also find such a beautiful relationship with not only psychedelics but also all these other interesting things ?

I mean peptides , consciousness , spirituality , like how did Samuel Lee birth all these things and join them together ? I am genuinely curious man .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so first of all , I used to wear those big ass baggy khakis back in the day . I don't know if you're alive for that era , but like super baggy , you know , but just sagging those khakis , yeah .

Speaker 1

Shout out khakis , those are the cool khakis . Man , I got it . Yeah , there were some cool khakis out there .

Speaker 2

I don't think I had the dockers , but like , yeah , I had like the baggy ones . Um oh yeah . Well , with that being said , uh , how did how did this all happen ? Is like yo , like in this lifetime I went through every single psychiatric condition , personal . But there I was like going through residency in la at cedar sinai , and I was talking .

When people got problems , they moved to la . So the entire world's problems was like in west hollywood , like right in front of me at cedar sinai , and I was literally blending fields with them , trying to understand them , while on the weekends I was literally like going through .

You know , I was partying , addicted , going through every single psychiatric symptoms , severe PTSD , major depression , four times called off my wedding in a manic episode and somehow I would like muster up like kind of this courage to show up to work , uh , despite shaking in my boots , um and and and , literally like like one-on-one , I would like literally talk to

the world's problems and you know , at this point in my life I could sit across it doesn't matter who I sit across from . It's like a billionaire , a prostitute , a homeless person , um , a celebrity , I'm like it doesn't matter what they say , it's like yo , me too , man , like I've been there .

And then so there came a point where it was like the way , I learned that the system wasn't working .

So , prescriptions , medications , giving them my you know my pep talk , my Tony Robbins pep talk , instilling hope within them , telling them about the yoga class I just did , and you know they would have temporary relief , but it wasn't like fixing the root cause .

And two weeks before I was to become a partner at LA's biggest psychiatric hospital firm , I learned that there's a voice . It's not a voice , it's not my mind , it's a higher level of mind , a super conscious mind , intuition . It has information beyond space . It cannot lead me astray , it only has my highest evolutionary potential in mind .

And once I learned this , I was like , well , that's easy . All I got to do is quiet my mind . 99% of all psychiatric problems are people identifying with their thoughts as if they're their thoughts . It's like , well , thoughts come and go , feelings come and go , but who's the one who's always there ?

And so , as I started learning how to be silent and tune in for the liberation of all sentient beings and for the highest good of all , and a new global paradigm of mental health that treats the root cause , then I would get downloads in two weeks before I was become a partner , um , you know , at one of la's corporations .

Um , it was like you're quitting your job today . I was like , hold on , this is not my mind . And you know the five second rule if you wait five seconds , your mind's going to kick in and give you like a hundred reasons not to do it , and so , but that day I decided to listen and that's all I've been doing since then .

And then that led me on a path where I had to heal myself , like literally , to function in this world , I had to heal myself .

And so you know , yoga teacher training , breathwork instructor , anything that could give me an edge to calm my nervous system , to help me be truly who I am , and unlearning everything I learned in medical school , almost unlearning everything I've been programmed to believe .

You know that whole process trips to the Amazon , all the plant medicines , peptides , uh , you know anything that could kind of alleviate symptoms . Um , and then , eventually that led me to the eternal life wisdom , the science of the 12 stranded DNA , and and , and that you are the inner Christ and you are who you've been looking for , and , and that's what I've .

And then I got commissioned to share this wisdom . So that's what , that's what I've been up to man Dude .

Speaker 1

Such a cool story , man , and so inspiring . Your story is very similar to mine in the way when I was 16 and I tried cannabis for the third time , because you know what they say , third time's the charm . First couple of times I might've Bill Clinton it , I'm not sure I didn't inhale or something happened . But the third time definitely worked for sure .

And I remember in that experience I had been struggling with an anxiety diagnosis I had had from a guy in a white lab coat that diagnosed me in five minutes or less and tried to throw all these pharmaceuticals at me . And when I was 16 , I didn't know what I know now . So I just really believed , like this guy's got me figured out .

I don't know anything , but thank God this guy does and thank God it was so quick . Wow , he must have something really figured out . And so I ended up trying these pharmaceuticals . They're not working . And when I finally tried cannabis , it was like my last ditch effort .

You know , I didn't want to be a drug user , I had been a dare , which was the weirdest thing , by the way . It's like , hey , drugs are bad , but we have them . You can't but here , smell them and check them out and tell me if your parents are doing it . It was like the weirdest program ever . So it's like so tried it the third time .

I had this experience that I was not my thoughts and I knew nothing about what the fuck to do with that information . But it changed something after that . It didn't mean that I wasn't affected by my thoughts after , because I still let them come in . I didn't know what the hell had just happened .

It was almost like I had somehow opened my car past the governor point , like I'd gone 160 instead of a hundred . So I knew it was possible , but I didn't know how to do it again . So then that started a series of seeking and as I stumbled on this spirituality and other psychedelics , I started to get it down a little more .

But , very similar to you , I started realizing this higher mind , you know , and when I found hermetics , that was like one of my favorite things , the first principle , the all is mine . I was like , yes , this makes so much sense .

And so as I started communing with that part of me , I remember , like so many times throughout my life , where it would give me tips . Sometimes I would listen , sometimes I would not . And you know , again , it's got a gentle hand , when it doesn't .

You know , when you don't listen to it , it's not going to like strike you down , but you'll also get a negative reinforcement of some sort of like that wasn't fun , don't do that again . So I started to learn like , ok , whatever this voice is , you know it has more wisdom for me .

And you know , as I started to piece these things together and started to be like , okay , well , I'm going to get into cannabis and all this stuff that really wasn't an industry . But the voice just kept telling me just keep going , just keep going , it's all going to make sense in time . And arguably that's still happening to this day .

Like I have no idea where anything I'm going , I'm doing , is going , but that's what makes it the most fun , right , like that is the mystery . And I think that the more that we can find passion and excitement in the unknown , the more we become like kids again and , as a result , end of the kingdom of heaven , you know , as the Bible quote says .

So it's really cool to be able to meet other people who had similar , you know types of journeys where they were on one path , you know , very structured , and then at the last moment they just decided what I'm gonna hop out of this because it doesn't feel right to me and it takes a lot of courage to do that .

You know , and I love showcasing stories like that because I imagine there's someone listening who might be right at that precipice right now . You know , like they've waited more than five seconds so they have all the back talk happening . They're like what do I do ?

And maybe hearing this will help them make that , you know , courageous leap forward , that leap of faith yeah , absolutely brother .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and shout out to everybody like walking , I guess we're going to . I just saw you threw in a little Bible thing there , so yeah , you must become like little children I used to be a youth pastor , by the way , oh sick y'all got to feel me and like complete mystery of the present moment .

And I guess that requires like a full on level of trust with all that is what Jesus called the father , consciousness , all that is . And in order to like fully trust and completely surrender , I was just watching this video clip .

It says once I can fully surrender to the mystery of what is in this present now moment , because I guess , like Jesus , was spending time getting to know it , you know , just like you did through conscious cannabis , just like I did through all the different tools that I learned , and getting to know the energetic laws , the perfection of the cause and effect , the

hermetic laws of the universe that govern the entire universe , and the character of source , which is complete , free will , choice , but at the same time , the cohesive power of the universe , which is love that connects all things together . And once you really intimately get to know that , then it's like oh , wow , okay , cool .

Like then I can become , and you know , like it's a continuous work , but like like a little child , pure , innocent , not guilty , complete in trust , like Abba , like Jesus would say Abba , father , mother , god , like I trust you in this now , moment . And it's become so ingrained that all things are always working for the good of those who love .

And it's like yo , I am this love .

And it's not , like you know , sometimes I still find myself like trying to be love or like more love , but like it's like yo , like you know , at the end of the day it's like no , because when I'm just being , I am love , I am interconnected to everything , in fact , like when I'm trying that's what implying that I'm , I lack right , and so really coming to

that point of complete , full surrender to the mystery and I love that you threw in that little bible quote then the kingdom starts ready , queendom starts radiating through man , yeah , yeah there's some really good quotes in the bible , you know , and you know I I fortunately you know .

Speaker 1

I think you know aaron abkey too , right , do you know , aaron ?

Speaker 2

yeah , yeah , doing amazing work , like talking about their scenes and so good man he's .

Speaker 1

He's an amazing buddy of mine and you know I I never got brought up in any institutionalized religion .

My parents were really like chill about it and I'm very grateful because , you know , becoming friends with a , he's told me about all the work he's had to go through to like find a really positive , loving relationship with Jesus , god , all these terminologies that you know he always felt the connection to , but through the church kind of got bastardized and , you

know , felt very out of alignment for him .

And you know , it's interesting because the more that he'll tell me about certain aspects of the Bible , and more so , of course , the miracles , because that's where I kind of lean , like I really enjoy the course and I enjoy books written on it , like Disappearance of the Universe , and all Gary Renard's work has been very interesting for me as well .

But like there are some quotes in the Bible that when I read them I can tell like that's an unadulterated Jesus saying there . There's some that I think have been corrupted over time . There's actually a lot in the Bible that I feel has been corrupted over time and I know you know much more about that than I do .

But there are certain things , like that one , that made perfect sense to me , because once you've experienced whether through psychedelics , whether through deep meditation , breathwork , whatever , once you've experienced that how quantum physicists would say the zero point field or the unified field or whatever you want to call it , and you have complete connection to that , you

realize that it is who you already are . Like there's nothing you need to do to go get that thing . You know , that's kind of like the more reductionist mindset that a lot of like our left brain society has been programmed into .

But you know , again , like the analogy I use is kind of like a dinner table , right , Like imagine you have this dinner table for a while . Everything's great , you dinner there with your family , you make memories , everything's great . And then , over time maybe , like you know , life gets busier .

You know things get stressful and you stop , you know , trying to keep the table clean , and you just start throwing papers on it . You're like I'll get to these later Before you know it , there's no kitchen table anymore . So you think , right . So you're like , oh man , like do I have to go buy a kitchen table ?

And it's like no , you just have to clear all the nonsense away to reveal what's already there .

And I think that's what the healing process really has been for me and what I imagine it's been for you and everyone that goes through healing is not adding anything you don't already have , but it's actually a subtraction process , taking away the unnecessary and revealing what's always been there , but in an unadulterated way .

You know , and I always say like you have , process of healing in a big way is getting unadulterated , you know , like like losing the adultness , losing the seriousness , coming back into passion but not seriousness , and I think that's one of the reasons I love cannabis so much is because and other psychedelics too , for sure , but cannabis has a very unique way of

reminding you that life is far too serious to ever be taken seriously .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's a mindfuck right there . Yeah but it's the truth . Like you , literally , yeah , and you know , I'm glad that you brought that up because , yeah , you know that exactly . And the way that I see it is , you're saying that 80% truth , 20% distortion , and that's what humans do .

You know , over a period of time , it's just natural to take the , the original teachings of yeshua ben joseph , and to be able to like kind of , like , you know , put stuff onto it . And that's what they did at 325 council of nesia , 80 22 . He didn't want to be worshiped , he didn't want to start a religion he was trying to point people to .

Like , bro , like you , you are who you've been looking for . You will do even greater things than me and so , yeah , there's like pearls of wisdom in there , for sure , and you can kind of like for him who's opened the third eye and can feel the oneness .

Anything that is causing separation was not his message , right , in fact , like the only people he ever criticized were church pastors during that time who were causing separation , like rich and poor , or like holy and not holy you know all these different things .

And he was hanging out with prostitutes and homeless people and you know he said what you have done unto me with the least of them , you have done unto me , and these were the principles , but over a period of time . Obviously , that's what humanity does .

They put napkins , this stuff on the , on the dinner table , and it becomes the message , becomes shrouded , and that's why I really appreciate what aaron's doing and what a lot of people are doing .

Um , um are , like you know , once again coming back to the sacred law of one and the true message of the truth that we are all interconnected in one and and that , uh , yeah , the inner christos is within and I love that you said that , because , like this is like a good reminder for me .

Sometimes I get into like a warrior mode , like Jesus braiding the whip mode . Right when it's like , yeah , this is planet , mother , earth , motherfuckers . Like let's , let's let's , let's , let's create the new earth , right , and you know , I guess there is a time and place for the divine warrior , but for the , yeah , absolutely right .

I think Osho said seriousness is illness , right , and it's the . That's the , the lesson coming to me . Like one time I had a ceremony where , for like 30 minutes , all it was trying to show me was the simulation and all I heard was like have fun , love people , have fun . I just said that for 30 minutes straight have fun and love people .

And it was showing me the , the non-serious nature of the hologram . All things flow from source , all things return to source and it's just source make God , making love with .

Speaker 1

God Dude , and one of my favorite things that Paul says is Paul Cech great spirit is down for whatever , and that , I think , is a real non-dualist way to look at life , the exact same way that someone like Jesus or Buddha or Lao Tzu or Plato or any of these non-dualists that have walked the planet , that's how they would actually be .

That's why it's so funny to me when I see people saying Jesus doesn't like these things . Or in Buddhism , no intoxicants . You can never intoxicate your mind . A non-dualist would never make the dream feel more real by creating imaginary rules that don't actually make any sense .

Right , like , if this is all a dream , then in reality nothing is good or bad , because that implies duality . And the second you imply a split , you're out of oneness , and so at the end of the day , it would really just be based on what gets you closer to God .

Right , and I think you know in that vein , you have to be aware enough and centered enough in yourself to know what really gets you closer to God , because I imagine someone would go .

I think cocaine and hookers gets me closer to God , so I'm going to keep doing that , right , so , like , you do need to have a certain amount of self-awareness to be able to wield this power . But , like you were saying , jesus didn't want to create a religion because , again , like that would create more complexity into the dream . He wanted people .

He said all the time like , guys , I'm not a leader , I'm a follower of the Holy Spirit . And that's what I want you to be too , because we're waking up and the way that I see it is like Jesus at that time was just the guy in the lead who had woken up the most and was like hey , guys , watch this , I'm going to get crucified .

And they're like dude , no . And he's like don't worry , I'll be back . And they're like what do you mean ? And he knocks on the door like three days later he's like yo , you remember me . And they're all like , oh shit , he did it right . So , like you know .

That's why I've liked how disappearance of the universe I don't know if you've ever read that book , but how they state it , oh , it's a great book , dude , because it puts it puts jesus in this category where he's just like a normal dude .

They actually call him j in it , which makes it so much more impersonal and it's so funny and the things he does in it right . Like there's another book I'm reading right now too , called the greatest story never told , and I just started reading it .

But in one of the depictions , jesus shows up smoking a cigarette and like that's exactly what Jesus would do , because he would know people would go wait a minute . You're Jesus . Why are you smoking a cigarette ? Like you're not supposed to do that .

And he's like only if you believe you're not right , like what tells you these things are inherently bad , some kind of story you've already created . Now , does that mean everyone should go smoke cigarettes ?

I'm not saying that , but you know , it's just interesting to see how people will create these categorizations , how I've done it many times in my life of like , oh , this thing's good , this bad . Versus how does it make me feel when I do it ? Does it make me feel closer to God or farther away ?

If so , if it makes me feel farther away , I'm going to stop that because I want to be closer to God and closer to oneness . But if it helps me get there , well , I'm going to feel into it and utilize it if it feels right to do so . So it's really interesting to look at it that way .

So I'm glad you brought up that Jesus never wanted to start a religion because that is , I mean , perfect , like first principle to a non-dualist . They would never try to make more complexity , they would try to make simplicity which is like , hey , just forgive and side with the Holy Spirit , that's easy .

You know what's a lot more challenging than that A book like this thick that goes into so much complexity .

And when you look at what Aaron teaches and he talks about how , mostly like the people that think they're Christian , are actually following Paul's you know gospels and all his narcissistic shit , you know like it was very interesting when Aaron brought up to me that back in the day , when Jesus was around , he was like , hey , that's all you got to do .

Just , you know , love your neighbor , love your God and you'll be forgiven , just repent . And then Paul comes in . He's like , actually you got to do an animal sacrifice , but don't worry , we got a bunch of animals at the church , you can go , pay and do an animal sacrifice and you'll be forgiven .

So it was kind of like the old school way that now big food gets you sick , big farmer implies a implied solution , very similar to that . So it's interesting how history repeats itself .

Speaker 2

For sure , yeah , absolutely , man , history repeats itself unless we learn from the past .

Right , and I don't know , like the astrology , I don't know what your girlfriend is saying , but some of the astrologers that I'm aware of are saying we're entering into a brand new timeline , like it's almost like , which feels a little bit weird , right , because it's like a blank slate , where we're like a blank canvas to paint .

The art is in the heart to paint whatever timeline that we choose to paint , through every word , action and frequency , and it's collective consciousness , I guess , to decide .

So , you know , we're entering into this brand new timeline and , you know , I think , I think we are learning from the past and everybody's like slowly starting to step into their power and divinity is simplicity and , and that's why , like for me , what I learned as a psychiatrist is , 99 of all psychiatric problems are people identifying .

They're in their mind , their 3d mind , as if they are their thoughts .

You , you know , and that's that's the you know , going back to when , when that person in the white coat , who somehow society has subconsciously ingrained , has authority , whatever they say , because I'm telling you , I've been through medical school it's 99% of that shit is bullshit , but like , whatever they say , so like somehow has a subconscious imprint as authority ,

and as soon as they tell you a diagnosis , it's like if you believe that you just told your entire body that there's something wrong with you , that you're separate , which is going to lead to isolation , which is going to lead to inflammation , which is going to lead to not belonging , which is going to lead to disease .

And you know , and it's beautiful right now because all of these beautiful plants and um people are starting to wake up and like nature is like the last scene of avatar , where I feel like a great awakening is happening . It doesn't matter the , the , the counterforce , which is all us .

You know , once again , it's all us and I love that you brought in non-duality , like that's what I'm . You know , one visualization that I feel these days is just like all of it , like everything .

Illuminati Jesus shit , every single murderer , you know , it doesn't matter , like there's no part that isn't separate from me and it's not like I sit there in that visualization all the time . No-transcript . Oh , okay , cool , thank you . Uh , let me , let me , let me love this part work , part part of me . Back . I am also that , and it doesn't just like .

It's like I am , I am everything .

And then it feels kind of weird once you run into that space , cause it's like complete neutrality and it's like , oh , okay , cool , like there's nothing to fight , there's nothing to do , and just comes back to that one point like a kid , you're a kid again and you're like cool , uh , you know , let's create something , let's , let's , let's go .

You know , eat the sand , or you know what I mean . Like let's do something Um , yeah , and and so yeah , I think it's like this really cool timeline um that we're coming into and shout out Aaron Cause , like the yeah is the official term I coined for cannabis downloads right , ideas .

Speaker 1

But that was a idea that came to me after I read disappearance of the universe . Because for me , like I've seen all these different sacred texts and I haven't been like curious to dive into a lot of like the Bible and things like that , and I I often wondered why .

But at a certain point I realized , well , if I'm not interested in it , it's just not right for me . I don't even need to know why . It doesn't matter , right , just go to what , follow the fun . It's like my main ethos in life Just follow what your fun is and you'll never know where you're going , but you'll end up in the exact right place .

And so when I found Lar 1 through Aaron , when I found Disappearance , when I found A Course in Miracles , things started making a lot more sense , because before then what I liked was hermetics and things like that .

And when I started to view all these things individually , I was like , oh , it's because all these things to me , the story I've architected , is that they're so simplistic , they must be God , because God is not complexity , that's the language of the ego .

And when you look around in the world , right , with like psychiatry right , like , look at that , like all the I mean , look at the DSM manual , dude , it's like this fucking thing . It's a cyborg of complexity . That's really what it is .

And I think that , at least for me , for many years , you know , when I was going to read the next book or whatever , I kept thinking I need these things right in order to progress or evolve or whatever . And that's a very complex thing . Because what if I can't get access to the books ? What if I'm not interested in them when I read them ?

But I have to force myself to read them because I know they're important in quotation marks for you guys just tuning in the audio version . But you know it was interesting to me because once I started really viewing these things , I was like , oh , it makes so much sense .

Like when you break through on a five grand mushroom trip or you break through in a five MEO , like you know , the werewolf stage of like , like getting there is , you know , kind of rough . But once you're there , dude , I can just sit on my back and stare at the ceiling and be the most content I've ever been in my life .

That is simplicity at its finest right . There's no thoughts going by , there's not even a need to ask a question , because I already have the knowing immediately , like the same time through quantum entanglement . So that was very interesting to me .

And one thing I'm curious on for you , man , that I'm just genuinely interested in is the 12 strand DNA stuff , because I'll tell you more about this when we're not live . I don't want to mention any names , but I went to a certain institute , let's say , and this institute institute . They taught me some really cool stuff .

They were deep into hermetics , kabbalah , things like that , but they had a very interesting activation that you would do . It was like the first step that you would do when you joined this thing . Basically , I'm not going to call it a c word , but this thing right , and so I was down for it .

I found out about this through gaia and um , and so I was like , all right , this sounds cool . I went there , had an interesting experience . You know like oh , wow , that was cool and it's called the life activation . It's what they do , and supposedly what it's supposed to do is activate all 12 codons to your dna , or all 12 strands to your dna .

But the story goes that this is the lineage of King Solomon and during King Solomon's time he had this church built and the Freemasons were supposedly who built the church because they overheard a lot of stuff and created their own sect or whatever .

But he called for all the high priests , priestesses , magicians , shamans , et cetera , to come to this church and figure out a universal system to raise the consciousness of planet Earth .

And they spent like 30 something years or something like that trying to come up with this system and by the time he died they had come up with life activation , which originally would activate all 12 strands , but there would always be two that would turn back off like a certain amount of time later .

And they tried to figure it out , tried to figure it out , tried to figure out , couldn't .

So then apparently this lineage kind of goes dark for I don't know how long a couple thousand years and the founder of this institute , he moves to America and basically goes through an experience where he's driving through the Rocky Mountains and a spaceship crashes and he gets invited on board and they gift him the next activation .

That's completely opening your 12 strand DNA . And so when I heard this I was like , okay , cool , like I've heard the 12 strand DNA thing before you know , I believe in that . But as I started to get farther into this Institute , it was like more of like , uh well , you got to do the next level .

You got to do the next level and I kind of like took my leave . I'm grateful for what I learned through there , but as a result of that I kind of just left it on ice . I was like I don't know what I just learned from there .

That's actually accurate versus just complexity , because they had a lot of rituals you had to do twice a day and things like that . But I'm just curious for you , man , like where you first heard that , if you've ever heard of something called life activation .

I'm just curious what your thoughts are pertaining to 12 strand DNA , because I know you know a lot more about this than I do .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I appreciate it . The question , like this is my passion , man , like so , like this is this is my life . You know , this is where I spend my time , man , this is what's fun for me .

Like even before this pod , like I was like holy fuck , like just studying about this shit , like the physics of source , the science of source , and I was like just being blown away by the like . And you know , for me , I guess , guess , the end path Of all spiritual teachings for me Should be Freedom .

And this is what Jesus was saying to people Yo , you Pharisees , you put all these fucking rules in place and you're not entering Into the frequency of oneness and you're preventing all these people Because they're fucking so busy Trying to memorize the fucking DSM-5 and do all these different things and these rules that you put in you have .

You can only walk this many steps , you can only do this like you do , like that's what , that's what brought out . His warrior was like why are you ? Like ? You know , and and the truth is divinity , is simplicity , and you know , everything you need is within . And so when I , I like , I fell in love with the archetype of Jesus at 16 .

And like , for me , I was like it was real for me , man , like like all night guitar songs and you know , just just really . Uh , you know , and and so when I left the church , because of you know , you know , I was seeing like you will do even greater things than me , and I looked around the church and no one was doing that .

And I , and then I looked around , I saw cast out demons , heal the sick , raise the dead words in red , and I looked around the church and no one was doing that . And then I also read a verse I'd rather have you be cold than lukewarm . And so I found myself . I knew what the fire was , I knew it was there , and then I lost it .

And then so I was like yo , I'm going to go cold . I didn't know shit about the world . I was the 22 year old , and so I got , I started getting very curious and opened my mind . I said what did Jesus do from 12 to 30 ?

And I started retracing his footsteps , reading all the different perspectives , yoga of Jesus , uh , reading what he was doing as master Issa in Tibet . I started like really studying a little bit about Tibet .

I started pumping Kundalini for two years , right , and then , uh , all these different things were like this wild love affair that I had with this archetype of Jesus , like it was so entrained in my subconscious that , whatever this man did , like I was following that footstep Right , and so I followed in the footsteps of 12 to 30 .

And then , you know , he comes back at 30 . He knows how to walk on water . He's become one with the elements . He knows exactly who his soul family is . He knows exactly what his mission is . He knows how to alchemize water into wine . He learned the art of alchemy . He was able to , like you know .

And then I got very curious what you know , what do you do ? And then he says you will do even greater things than me . At this point I'm taking every word . He says literally it's in red . I was like , okay , cool , like like I believe that , and so , um , I started , like , just for me , truth , truth .

And then , you know , I was also part of what some people would label a C word , where they're teaching the base 10 Kabbalah tree of life .

Right , long story short , the eternal life , wisdom , what some people call chaotic science , what some people call , you know , bioregenesis , the science of the 12th century DNA found me , and when I first found it I was like this is either true or completely bullshit , because the level of detail about angular rotation and particle spin , particle pulsation , rhythm , how

to morph in genetic fields , it was so wow , I was like nobody can make this up right . And then , for me , I'm an experiential psychiatrist . So , according to this perspective , every human being has the morphogenetic field or the blueprint for the 12-stranded DNA . The 4th , 5th and 6th-stranded DNA is the soul . The 7th , 8th , 9th-stranded DNA is the over-soul .

The 10th , 11th , 12th-stranded DNA is the avatar , inner Christo self . The 13th , 14th , 15th is the Rishi self . And then there's primal light and primal sound . In the beginning god said let there be light . Sound becomes light . An ascended master is someone who's embodied their primal light and primal sound . And then , okay , it was like .

And then there was the original light language which our cosmic ancestors , the elohai seraphite braharama , spoke , which was literally key coded . If you want to know what a desk is for and all the indentations of the art , ask the person who created it . So , the elohi seraphite brahrama .

He coded the morphogenetic fields for the 12 stranded dna into the original light language ever spoken in this universe , from which all other languages in this universe come from , which is called anuhazimua , and so I was like that's crazy . But hey , you know , there was a certain level of truth where I was like I would listen to it for 20 minutes at a time .

And then , you know , you know , crazy me , two hours in the morning , I started doing the chance .

I started doing the chance and the and , and you know the wisdom says the DNA projects , the hologram , and so the most rapid way , according to this , was , like you know , to do the chanting and their symbols , the language of the potential DNA scientists you just call John sound light and symbols .

And so I started to do the practices and for me , it started setting me free and , mind you , before this I had tried everything because of , you know , my trauma and all these different things to be free . It started setting me free and then the shit that started happening in my hologram .

I couldn't , even I could throw like I'll tell you some other time but like it was literally like beyond my wildest dreams of anything I could ever even rip the mission and the purpose to go on a roll where I was like wow , and then , you know , and then , february 22 , 2023 , like in the middle of a ceremony , I'm told to stand up and boom , boom , boom ,

boom , boom , boom , boom , like I'm seeing all these people that I love . Uh , you know , I'm given this cup and it's like drink this cup and I drink this cup and it's like the Christ cup and it's like , yo , melchizedek , cloister , emerald Order , level Six Ed Carr , your ministry has begun .

Your ministry has begun , your ministry has begun and it was like , yeah , I love truth and I love , I love freedom and uh , you know , and so , like , things started happening from there and so everything that I talk about , everything the wisdom was saying , it started happening in my hologram and it started setting me free .

And I think that's the difference is between a C word , it'll . It will take away your freedom one by one and make you dependent on something , but this is called the freedom teachings because it actually , if it's not making you more free , and you know , simple , and you know , then don't do it Right , and that's what this is all about .

This is about freedom and the age of the guru , the middleman , is over . You don't need a religion , you don't need an angel , you don't need an archangel , you don't need a savior . No one's coming to save you . You are who you've been looking for , and the 12-stranded DNA morphogenetic field , the inner crystal , lies within you and there's nothing outside of you .

You need period . Take a look within , where , into the intron potential , dna scientists used to call junk . It's not junk , it's potential , and it responds to sound , light and symbols and it's setting me free .

And you know , obviously , like I don't ever necessarily preach , it's like I just share , like this is what he's doing for me , man Cause , like I don't really even care , like at this point , if people resonate or not , it's like yo , it's my , my joy to share what's helping me . And so , uh , long story short .

Also , one last thing I'll add is so the eternal life tree , grid of life , when creation happened , when God made man and woman in his image it's not a person , but it's a Sephora , but it's not 10 , it's 12 .

And so the reason why King Solomon's lineage , despite 30 years of research right , could not actually activate the entire 12 , is because there's a very specific history where the 12th sphere tree of life by the Giovanni collective , where the word Jehovah comes from , literally fell . They fell from heaven .

Through repeated free will choice , they decided that they were going to create their own matrix and the eternal life code , which is 12 , 11 , 10 , I have Lara right here , which is 12 and 11 . So they took out 12 and 8 from the 12th sphere tree of life , which is the eternal life code .

There's a very specific science of how it rotates out , how it overlaps with each other , rotates at an expansion rate of square root of 2 , 45 degrees right and it spirals out . The in-breath of God , the out-breath of God and the center point is always connected to the source of all energy and because it's always connected to the source , it has eternal life .

And then I learned that Jesus , who they call Jesus in the Bible , was learning this wisdom in Egypt from J12 , the 12th level avatar at the mystery school . That's why he comes back and he tells the woman at the well if you drink from the water I gave you , it shall become unto you a wellspring of everlasting water and you shall never thirst again .

I am water and you shall never thirst again . I am the resurrection and the life . He who believes in me shall never die . You shall have eternal life . Right .

So he knew about some of these teachings the eternal living water , when you do certain sound tones with early morning sun and symbols a tiwa window four feet above here and a third duck starts producing pre-eternal living water hydrolase , which jerry duhenio rivera wrote a whole phd paper about .

Um , which , like , once again , these , this is happening in my ceremonies . I'm not just like , I'm not , I'm not like you know what I mean . People are popping out of the ceremonies . The dead in christ will rise first . We're . We're correcting the egypt timeline , you know , uh , like literally , people are there .

They're there simultaneous time , speaking an ancient anunnaki language , breaking parasitic contracts that were made in egypt in real time , simultaneous time , that no longer serve humanity . People are popping out . That's why I say the story of Jesus is just getting started . Like , when one soul comes in , it comes in on different timelines .

We are the ones we've been waiting for , right , it's simultaneous time . And so you know the story of Jesus , like he was tuning into this timeline , he was tuning into all these other timelines and for a lot of us , this is the timeline we've waited for . So people are popping out of their ceremony .

Sometimes they'll tell me I was with Jesus at the last supper . I said , oh , cool , like a soul fractal , cool , like , tell me about it , what'd you see ? And they're like , yeah , magdalene was there . Magdalene was pissed off . I said why she was jealous . Jesus had mad Kundalini and Jesus was fucking around .

I get to just listen as people tell me about the nice Templar timeline , the Jesus timeline , the Egypt timeline and we're rewriting these timelines . Those were timelines in preparation for this timeline . I'm sure there's potentially future timelines that we're rewriting these timelines .

Those were timelines in preparation for this timeline and I'm sure there's potentially future timelines that we're preparing for . But for many of us we feel that this is the timeline we've prepared for .

And if you this is the heroic probability where you pull in all 1728 other simultaneous versions of you , for whether it's incension going into earth , to eden or radon , whatever there's , you can go that way back or you can go up right ascension , which you know some spiritual teachers think is not possible , some people do .

But it's it's , you know , um , it's it's embodying your soul over soul , your avatar cristo's self and your primal light and primal sound .

And if you do that , you return to source as source wholeness , and return and expand the knowledge of the one to increase the knowledge of the one , what Christians call the book of life , what New Ages call the classic records and we're a living record book of source .

And so right now , if you look at the two spirals , the Fibonacci spiral , all of nature follows that .

It's not bad or good , but it has an off-center starting point okay , not always connected to source and it spirals out at a specific angular rotation , part of like a different kind of golden mean spiral ratio and the phi ratio , which is not bad but it can only harness .

So when the 12 became the 10 , the giovanni collective and the metatron collective , which is a name of their children , created a new kind of spiral , a new mathematical formulation which follows the base 10 mathematical code , which is the Kabbalah tree of life that you see , which is base 10 , 10 spheres , right , and if you follow that , you're following the Fibonacci

spiral , the golden mean spiral , and it's a math , a very exact math , which it goes along the source spiral , the eternalized spiral , for a while . But there comes a point on when the two spirals start separating and polarizing right , and there's two timelines that are diverging right now and from my awareness , this is where those are starting to polarize right .

And so people's higher selves are going to come online and they're going to have a choice . Do I want to continue to abide by a mathematical formulation that consumes energy to create energy ? That is not all .

One thought that is a little off center from source , right , that is need for greed , greed for need , which literally has to parasitize energy from other sources in order to remain immortal . Right , or do I want to come and oscillate into new earth systems , one world order , new order or new earth ? Right , there's going to be a choice .

Into new earth systems , new , one world order ? New , new order or new earth ? Right , it's , there's going to be a choice . And we're this transition state from one age , uh , the age of Pisces , to age of Aquarius , uh , you know whatever you want to call it , the eternal life , in 26,500 something year cycle .

But there was an earth tilt , so right now those cycles are 25,000 , you know , obviously , indian wisdom , vedic calls it like Kali Yuga to , uh , you know , the golden age or whatever you want to call it , um . But we're in this transition state where there's a separation , a polarization of frequencies happening , and this is math , um , this is math , um .

And uh , the two spirals are separating from each other . One consumes energy to create energy is not always connected to source and the people , people , you know , we're all , we're all of this . So I'm not saying there's polarization , we're all of this , I am all of that . I have all that coding in my dna .

But at the same time , uh , source respects free will choice . There's no force in source . For there to be love , there has to be free will choice , right , um ? And so everyone's gonna have to choose , and one timeline over a long period of time is gonna . That's why everything in nature dies . The original intention of source was eternal life .

When you're following the base 12 eternal encryption and you're connected to Source , spiraling out energy and always expanding , just like the Source spiral or eternal lotus flower of life , you're always connected to the Source of all energy .

Therefore , you have eternal life and the original celestial human being was encrypted to embody their false-stranded DNA and to be able to do transmigration , which is they never die . You can take your body with you and blink in and blink out to all different locations transmigration . This was the original intention of Source .

Obviously , when that 12 collapsed to 10 , and the Giovanni Collective created a new matrix and appointed themselves as false alien gods and said give me your worship and if you don't , I'll burn you in hell forever . And there's this impossible set of rules . If you don't follow them , then you have sin and you have to sacrifice blood what the fuck ? And then ?

And then you're separate from this god and this low frequency and they're literally feeding off of that frequency of shame and guilt and worship and attention . And if you see jesus coming back in the sky , it's a holographic insert , because jesus's true message is you are who you've been looking for . It's false light and so I feel like you know .

That's why the 12 and the 10 didn't work , because literally , they can only activate 10 , because the metatronic coding only can do up to 11.5 max . It can't do 12 . Bioregenesis , bioregenesis , right , and everybody's going to make a choice .

And one timeline spiral will lead to black hole , space dust , return to source , with no incarnational memory of existence , still source , still sacred .

But the other one will lead to embodiment of your soul over soul , avatar , place yourself , return to source as source , wholeness , as an ascended master , eventually with to expand the knowledge of the one , and then the space dust that you know , the back hole . The ascended masters will utilize that space to create new universes and new galaxies .

And the cycle continues and it's not that serious bro .

Speaker 1

yeah , that was fucking epic dude . First I want to say that I am so grateful I asked that question . I feel like I just learned so much from what you talked about , like you connected a lot of dots for me and a lot of it just felt intuitively true . Even things I'd never heard before just feel intuitively true .

And that's one of the many reasons I'm so like drawn to what you teach , because I can just tell there's it's not like I have an intellectual understanding behind a lot of the different things you mentioned there , because this is a lot of the first time I'm hearing certain aspects of that .

But I just know deep in my heart I'm like , yes , there's a yes to that and I've learned to listen to that voice and that feeling when I feel it . You know , what's really funny is if you want to talk about a very small microcosm of how what you were just talking about like really shows up in life .

One of the ways that I've been realizing I'm still stuck in the old pattern is in business , right , like the old , the age old business myth is just pull yourself up from your bootstraps , chug more coffee and just put more effort in and you'll get where you want to go , but that is more of this .

Like energy eating itself , type energy , right Like effort by definition is not sustainable because it requires energy every day . It requires you putting something in and burning it . Right , real , like the new world way is flow . Right , like , how can I find things that I'm so fired up from that ?

When I do them , they give me more energy than they take from me , so I'm constantly at a surplus and because of that , it's got to come out somewhere . And what do I want to do ? I want to go give it back to anyone , everyone in the entire world .

And you know , the kind of slogan that I've had for a long time is my goal is to leave the garden , of which . I'm not the first person to ever say that , but it came to me as a high idea and it was before I was doing all the cannabis stuff . I was into cannabis , but it was a foreshadowing . There's so many puns with a higher self and whatnot .

And it's funny , man , because one of the things that I've been so bullish on to use a crypto term when it comes to Jesus is that Jesus was definitely consuming cannabis and mushrooms and God knows what else , and mushrooms and God knows what else .

Right , like this myth that , like Jesus was some guy that you know or some being that you know had to be sober . It's just so silly , man , like even as I say it , I can't even say it with a smile , like a straight face , it just feels so silly to me . And I heard you on Danny Morrell talking about like . Danny was like can we just say it ?

And you're like , yeah , dude , jesus was doing a lot of mushrooms , you know . So I don't know if you've heard about the myth I've actually never asked Aaron about this , but I know we connect with cannabis together , so I'm sure you'd be in alignment with it .

But in the Bible , you know , one of the things I was big in with cannabis still am , but a lot bigger back in the day was RSO , rick Simpson oil , or full extract cannabis oil , and its ability to cure cancer and cure a lot of these other like that are otherwise not healable , and to do so in a way that's natural .

And so it was interesting because when I got into this , I started hearing a lot about this cannabosom stuff in the Bible . Then I found this guy , chris Bennett . Have you ever heard of Chris Bennett before ?

Speaker 2

No .

Speaker 1

Dude , this guy , I think you would love his books . His latest one is called Cannabis Lost Sacrament of the Ancient World , and he has another one called Lieber 420 . It's like this thick with all different accounts of the Silk Road , ancient Jerusalem before AD .

Like in BC they found remnants of like cannabis , hashish resin mixed with frankincense , which showed , because it was mixed with animal dung , that they were getting high from it . They weren't using it as like a textile back then and so like there's mention in the Bible of this plant that a lot of people , including Chris Bennett , believe was mistranslated .

They mean Calamus , but it's pronounced Canabosum and if you look up the anointing oil recipe that Jesus was using , it's a shit ton of this Canabosum plant mixed with a grain alcohol cooked over a fire , right Like there's different transcriptions of what it was , but you know again , like that's pretty much how you make RSO , you know . So it's interesting .

Who knows , I wasn't alive during that time period in this meat suit anyway , but you know it's interesting . I didn't know if you had heard anything about the cannabis and being cannabis , the mushrooms and kind of the lost years of Jesus , which aren't so lost it . Just they're not in the Bible or in the mainstream kind of areas .

But I'm curious if you've heard anything about that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , first of all , once again , I'm just resonating and I think that's the new currency of the future . And respect to where we're at right , because I think sometimes we forget that we are part of collective consciousness and we're in a transition state and I have to really respect that part too .

Right , yeah , there's a part of me that wants to like run off , to like find a little beach villa and just go into the newer frequencies , and I have no problems and sure you know I have that thought like every once in a while but like , say no , we're part of collective consciousness and we're in a bridge state from an old model of business to a new model

, from an old model of human to a new model , and we're in this kind of like bridge , transition state and there's going to be a transition , which is cool . But yeah , I think the new currency that we're heading towards is literally authenticity , yes , complete purity .

Now , I don't mean that as like , like you know , no , nothing bad or good , no , it's just like I'm just me and I've accepted all parts of me and um and when , when ? Because you're at one with all unattached to anything or any outcome in the mystery , right back to that child , right , and people can sense that .

And when you're in , that that's really going to attract everything you need , or like literally , and that's the new currency , when someone can be in the room and sense it's actually a magnetic frequency because you don't need anything , all right , I know , I'm everything I need , right . And so people are like gonna offer you , like hey , what do you got ?

Like I'm just what you know . I mean , that's the new currency . And also telepathy will come online , which is already coming on . It's already online , like I , it's already happening for me , like telepathy , right , so literally , when you're just being you and authentic with you , like literally , there's no other competing timeline or energy .

So when someone speaks , your selves are just like , hey , that resonates , cool , there's . And then you just follow what resonates and you , if it doesn't resonate , no judgment , I accept that part too , that's cool , thank you . And then , but it doesn't resonate , I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole , right and so .

And then that leads you to the truth and the truth sets you free . So when you were speaking to me although I'm not like fully aware of you know that particular plant in the Bible it resonates , it resonates as true .

And then not only that , I see it as perfect for your mission and I I'm thinking multidimensionally like obviously it's interconnected , you know what I mean . So I'm like , yeah , absolutely , that's fucking ludley .

Yeah , man , and that's your truth and that's beautiful and it resonates as truth to me when I listen right , and then I read the immortality key oh , yeah , and yeah , man , this like , uh , shout out to the author , brian um , like literally goes down all of research and he's never even tried psychedelics .

And you know his conclusion in knowing , like , just like you said , the , the resin of the cup , they literally tested all the cups and it's like Jesus was a plant medicine facilitator , is the conclusion in the book . And here's all the evidence why and when they were drinking that at the Last Supper it was psychedelic wine , ergo , which LSD comes from .

And then there's also renditions of jesus and his disciples . Hold , they were homies holding hands , doing ecstatic dance , jumping up and down , and obviously the roman catholic church and the cover-up has , you know , because it wasn't a war on drugs , it was a war on consciousness .

If people are asleep and they're not awake , then then then they're easier to control and they'll give us 10 of their money . And yeah , and you know what I mean like they'll just be the sheep and follow everything we say . So let's twist the , the documents 80 to 20 false to make them to create a narrative where they'll follow it .

And then all the other books , the true books out there , let's burn them , alexandria , let's , let's hide them , that anybody out there who's teaching the truth , such as the Cathars of France , target number 12 , 12th tribe , which I come from , which in one of my ceremonies once again cellular memory is being reawoken of that time , and that tribe , montague , france ,

shout out um , you know ? Then then let's Albigensian Crusades , let's go and kill them . And then let's twist all the stories and make these vikings like tribe shout out tribe vikings , and the saxon and the , and then the irish and all these tribes , let's make them look like they're brutal murderers .

All these things when the true magi grail kings of these tribes were benevolent king arthur . Let's twist the story of queen arthur right , there is stargaze . Like the truth will set us free . And they literally like were from tribe 11 . And that was part of Jesus's mission to secure earth right , to prepare people for what's to come here and so .

But it's simultaneous time and , yeah , absolutely , like you think , moses was literally just seeing a fucking burning bush sober . Every , every , every , oh . Come on now . Like you know , every single culture has a medicine , a plant medicine that grows from the earth , right , which is a visionary plant and , once again , it's not good or bad .

When used in the right setting , intention , right Facilitator , you know , and with a protected space in the invisible world , if you want , then it becomes a catalyst , a tool to reveal what is already within , um , uh , in , in a visionary state sometimes , and to lead us closer to , if you want , to say oneness , oneness .

And these plants have amazing wisdom and , yeah , absolutely , you know , there's a whole history of how , from the Greeks , you know , it spread uh to Jesus and they were doing ceremonies and he , you know , obviously , you know , like you know , read the immortality key , uh , and you know , decide for yourself , take what resonates , leave what doesn't , but absolutely ,

brother for me , yeah , it's , it's become clear to me that , yeah , he was in his home , he's where we're , absolutely , uh , you know , using the sacrament as a , as a gift from God , uh , to connect with the divine .

Speaker 1

That's always what it's felt like to me , dude , like you know , for instance , right , another Bible quote if you want to enter the kingdom of heaven , you must learn how to laugh .

Right , like , laughter is the best medicine , right , like I always get the quote exactly wrong , but but like , this idea that laughter is the best medicine , where does that come from ? And why do so many psychedelic medicines , even though they can be very challenging , why is there always a phase of laughter ?

Like I've never heard of anyone , I've never heard of any medicine , rather , that is not at one point in someone's life elicited laughter . Now they can elicit paranoia , I mean , whatever's already inside of you , right , it's an amplification and a magnifier and a mirror in a lot of ways .

But you know , again , like , especially LSD , for instance , right , Like , when I take LSD , one of the main thoughts I have is , like I know , based on my normal consciousness , it is impossible to die from laughter . But I think I'm getting close and I don't know , like , am I actually going to just go up and explode ?

And you know , again , like , I really think that the closer you get to God , the funnier it all gets .

And I think it's because you remember , right , you remember the fact that , oh my God , I've never been born and I was at in Austin where on the last day , I led an LSD ceremony and it was like 30 people and they asked for a cannabis ceremony like mid LSD experience . So I did a cannabis ceremony and it went great .

Everyone was hugging and at the end I was like , hey , we should rip around a breath work and I had never done breath work on psychedelics before and so we all hold hands , we do some harmonizing ohms to center into each other's energy and we just rip a very quick round , 10 breaths , pop , lock , squeeze it , and we just blasted the fuck off .

And I , we'd not . No one really knew what the fuck happened . We come back into our bodies and we all start laughing at the exact same point , without looking at each other , cause we were still out there , and then , boom , the laughter clicks in . And so we did it like 25 more times just to make sure it worked .

And uh , and every time we came back we're laughing and we started to ask like , I wonder why we're laughing ? And the best hypothesis we came up with is because we're realizing that death is actually just like Ram Dass said , like tight , getting off a tight shoe . You know , taking off a tight shoe . So it's really amazing , man .

It's just so cool to be able to have these stories and you know , man , I can't believe an hour has already flown by . Dude , I need to get you back on .

I'm so curious about so many things , man , but I want to be respectful of your time and everything , and I want to make sure I give people an ample opportunity to know where they can find you , anything new you got coming out that you want to mention .

Of course , I'll link it all in the show notes , man , but tell the people where they can learn more from you , man .

Speaker 2

Yeah , like , first of all , well , absolutely Traumatic . It becomes a Traumatic the closer you get to the truth , the closer you get to the truth , and with compassion for everybody out there , because there's times where I forget too , where I'm caught in the trauma .

I think it's trauma but it's actually Traumatic Because the closer you get to the truth , it's like the truth is actually super fucking funny and I really mean that and that's why , like every spiritual , I don't like the word master , but like you know really , you know really cool spiritual teachers , like they all have a laugh , like , ah , you know , like you're ,

like you can hear their laugh from a mile away and laughter is the food of the gods because it is , in a certain perspective , like to trauma and the things that I used to scare me when I'm like really like , look at it and I really integrate it and I really love it . Eventually , if I love it hard enough , it becomes funny . It's like what the fuck ?

I was scared of that you know what I mean it's like yeah , it's kind of funny and like what , what's compassion for ? For everything humanity is going through and you know , and everything that we've been through . So yeah , with that being said , uh , man , um , so yeah , on ig , it's samuel b lee md and I created , like I'm really excited about the school .

I'm pouring a lot of my energy and love into a school platform called the Eternal Life Tribe .

Like almost all of my life's work is on there , the 12 strand DNA course , all of my meditations , bi-monthly live Q and A's with me , and we're gonna do like prayer sessions and we're gonna have some fun in there and we're literally trying to like just build tribe man , a safe community where , like I'm talking about the things that you couldn't tell , like your

family members , like we're trying to create a safe space where it's not even like we're not , we're not , you know , we're not going to reject you , but we're going to celebrate that your deep , whatever you want to share , like the deepest , darkest stuff .

And it's starting to happen right , where people are sharing like that , all the shit they can never tell anybody , and the tribe members are coming together and saying , bro , me too , hey , me too , and this is what helped me . This is what helped me . So , yeah , that's where I'm pouring a lot of my energy into is , uh , this is the school platform .

Eternal life tribe .

Speaker 1

so , dude , that is amazing . Dude , it's so cool . I have a couple school rooms too and I love that platform , man , like it's so fun and I'm so glad you're doing that . I'll have to check it out because it sounds like right up my alley . And I have one last question , man , that I want to ask that I ask everyone that comes in the show you up for it ?

Yeah , all right , dude , let's send it . So let's say , someone listens to this episode and they're really excited to check out psychedelic medicines and see if they work in their own life .

What is the one piece of advice that you would offer them to allow them to use the proper discernment and knowing whether or not these medicines are right for them right now in their lives ? Listen , L-I-S-T-E-N .

Speaker 2

The plants have a consciousness , the medicine has a consciousness . So listen and resonate . So , whether it's like , let's just ask the question first of all hey , is it right for me Right now ? Is right now the right time for me ?

And then don't even try to answer it , just say , hey , higher self , if , like , this is what my path and this is going to be good for me , for the highest good for myself and for all , like , let me know . And then , and then listen .

And what I mean by that is , like , you know , when you're in a state like where there's no mind , there's no mind , there's no mind . If it's meant for you , literally just listen , be open to listening , because you'll have a resonance and the plants have consciousness , right and there's , they can communicate with you and on some level it's a calling .

Obviously there's a co-creative choice and everything , but they have consciousness . All conscious things can , can communicate . And so if you're called to something and you have an intention for the highest good of all and for your highest good , just listen . It'll call you and , like , you'll probably get two , three waking dream messages in your hologram .

You'll be like , oh yeah , I'm supposed to do that .

Speaker 1

And then just kind , of flow with it , dude , I will take nail in the head for 500 , please . That is exactly what I do , man Like , just like I always say it's like a crockpot right . Set it aka , is this good for me ? And then forget about it and wait for the answer to come through . And watch out for synchronicity , serendipity , right .

That's also God's second language . And , man , this has been so amazing . Guys , I know that you loved this episode I shared way back in the intro .

Sam is someone I've been following for quite a while now , and every time I see his posts they give me some new grasp around knowledge that makes me so inspired and so lit up on every fiber of my being to keep going , to keep learning and to keep having fun .

So make sure you go down to the show notes , make sure you check out everything he's doing , stay up to date . I'm going to get him back on soon , for sure , because I have a lot more questions . And wherever you are in the world , I hope you were all having the best day ever and , as always , may the source be with you . Peace for now .

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